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Episode Date: July 23, 2026Bay Area attorney JOHN OCONNOR author of POSTGATE talks with me about the political resurrection of Richard Nixon, and the crazy suit against Chat GPT for giving bad medical advice. Open phones and co...nversation follow.
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Bay Area Attorney.
Gosh, used to be a federal prosecutor, didn't you, John?
Welcome back to the show.
I did.
Yeah.
For six years, I did it.
Amazing time.
And you wrote a great book, and I highly recommend it.
We've talked about this for probably a year or two now.
It's Postgate.
And what was Postgate all about?
before we move along to some of the legal news.
Well, basically, most important scandal in world history, political scandal, certainly in American history, is the scandal Watergate, which got Richard Nixon pushed out of office.
It was a journalistically impelled scandal.
And what I point out, I'm the first guy in the country that's ever written about the post reporting that got him out and why it was false.
And what really happened in Watergate and why the post, how the post, falsely portrayed the scandal.
And Nixon didn't even know what had happened.
The Post-Faulsi portrays it as Nixon's deal.
And Nixon got pushed out of office.
And that's where this whole modern journalism started,
where journalists think they're kingmakers and king breakers.
And that's what we've got today.
All right.
I don't know.
Do you think that today's journalists are having much effect on the Trump administration's presidency?
Are they able to resist to the same level as WAPO did back in the day, John?
Well, actually, they're trying to resist, and they're trying to, and, you know, you look at these Sunday morning talk shows, and all they are is anti-Trump diatribes.
However, the world has changed since 1972, and there are a lot of other people get their sources of information in other places, and they're not buying it.
And that's how we get a divided country. It's really not, it's because you have the mainstream media just being so one-sided that naturally you have a,
things that fill the void. You have very active talk radio and think about Rush Limbaugh first
started this and Fox News comes along. They didn't come out unless there was a vacuum. And there was
a vacuum, tremendous vacuum. Now today, today the mainstream media can't get away with things the way
they used to. At least they can do it to about half the country maybe and influence them. But
so things have changed. And, and I think, for the, I, I think, for the,
the better. I hope you're right about that, John. There are many things that are certainly better.
One thing I was intrigued about, and I was reading the other day, the rehabilitation of Richard Nixon.
I never really thought I would see this day in which Richard Nixon, even within Republican circles,
is being brought up much more positively than in past. And younger generations, from what I understand,
are now looking back at the Nixon administration and seeing some things that they're
they like more than they once thought? That's got to be, that's got to be really frightening to some
on the left, I would think. Well, that's right. And really, it's a culmination of really discussed
with the major media. You know, right now, if you go to the Nixon Library, which is controlled
under law by the National Archives, they no longer had, once the archives got in there, they no
longer had little stands that the library used to have that talked about things that may have
detracted from Nixon's guilt. And it wasn't perfect. They didn't understand the entire problem,
but nonetheless, the library had done that. Now, as soon as the natural archives takes over,
all that's done and gone. And so, but now, so you don't get anything from the Nixon folks,
per se, just because the archives have taken it over. But you're getting
more and more people, like me, for instance, like Chris Rufo, people like that, that are out there saying,
look at the facts of Watergate. They're there. I've published the book Postgate about the,
and then Jeff Shepard published a book that talked about the railroading and the prosecution itself,
the backdoering to the judges and so forth. But the real problem is the post. And the real
problem is the country did not know what really happened here. This had nothing to do with the campaign.
Wasn't a campaign operation. So now we're seeing, and people see, now you have a Republican,
everybody's yelling and screaming about Trump. Well, guess what? We wouldn't need Trump if the media had
played it straight. We wouldn't need a guy that gets out there and gets in everybody's faces and
say, you're lying, you're fake news. That's why Trump's caught fire because he was not,
he was not afraid to say these things, whereas normal, polite people don't come out and fight.
They're afraid to fight the New York Times and CNN and CBS.
They're afraid.
Trump's not afraid.
And so even though he may be crude and vulgar sometimes, that hits a nerve with the regular people that he's actually, as somebody, he'll stand up and say, wait a second, enough of this nonsense.
So in that milieu, now people are saying, oh, everybody's saying, why can't we have a president that does things the right way?
Well, Nixon did things the right way, actually.
He may have a 5 o'clock shadow beard and look uncomfortable around people.
Oh, gosh, he always looked uncomfortable in his own skin, didn't he?
You have to admit that.
I remember that even as a kid, you know, studying the presidency in middle school when I was doing it at the time.
But he never looked like he was happy with himself, was he?
I don't think so.
Right, right.
And he looked like a television villain.
You know, we learned to pick out the villain in a story in the 22-minute.
of or 44 minutes of the show we're looking. So you have to have some guy that looks like
Nixon that ends up being the murderer, you know. But he's a guy that was always uncomfortable
in politics. You know, he just did it really as a striving lawyer in a small town,
trying to, you know, really trying to get a name for himself. And then there he was. He
launched a political career. But I think he would have been happy just as a successful lawyer.
But he was not comfortable doing it. But he was a wonderful president.
at the same time and he was always exploring what today would be thought of as somewhat liberal
remedies for society, like he explored with Patrick Monahan, you know, some sort of a negative
income tax to replace all these many, many social programs that we've got.
And that's something that...
Well, that's something we kind of do now, right?
What they call it earned the income tax credit, essentially?
Right, right.
The problem is we've got this web of many, many, many, many,
social programs and many, many buildings in Washington, you know, and, you know, it's just,
it's just not really efficient at all. Milton Friedman, as always said, have one, if you're going to
have welfare programs, don't, you know, have one program as efficiently administered as possible
and get money out to people. Maybe you could do it through the tax system where people can
actually collect money by filing a tax return. Oh, my gosh, how many, well, well, how many,
Well, how many welfare programs we have must be hundreds now by this time, huh?
You can't name them all.
Yeah.
And that's one of the things Biden did.
He beefed up a lot of these programs.
Nobody knew he did it.
You can do it by executive order.
And, you know, gosh, you get everything from, you can get milk here from the WIC program.
You can get your housing from this place and get a voucher.
You know, you can get food stamps.
You can get income credit.
You get unemployment.
I mean, Phil Graham has done a lot on this, and he shows that a family of work can get $64,000 worth of welfare through all these means.
Well, God bless America.
What could go wrong with such a situation, especially.
Gosh, I just heard one of our favorite talk show hosts here, Lars Larson, was talking about how the Federal Reserve the other day just said that there was like a million workers just dropped out of the workers.
out here. It's just like, and the theory is that there is so much large-ass available
through the welfare systems that it becomes a strategy in which people just say, hey, you know,
I'm just going to work enough to get along, you know, do a little bit of side hustle work,
you know, cash businesses, things like that, and then off to the $64,000 race like you
were just talking about, John.
It makes all the sense of the world. Yeah, they're saying that these million people
are actually working, doing something, you know, and if I'm in my, if I think I can hustle
drugs on the side. That's one thing. It may well be. I have other things. It may well be you have
a painting and contracting business. Who's going to know? If you go apply for these things,
who's going to know that you're out there? I mean, I pay people who come in and cut my trees,
which you have to do in California. And it's, you know, so a guy comes in. I pay him some money.
I don't, he's probably getting welfare. Yeah. Well, I'll tell you one thing.
One thing I did want to ask you about this morning since before about, and this has to do with the
book Postgate, though. I don't know if you address this or not. It's well known that Washington Post is
the CIA's newspaper, lowered a lot of people in government intelligence and a lot of contacts
within the Washington Post, or at least traditionally it was known that way. Was Watergate in some
ways a CIA hit on the Nixon administration in your view? Well, it wasn't intended to be a hit,
but it was a CIA job. And they had used the White House as an undercover basis. They
snuck in there. Howard Hunt, one of the leaders of the burglary was a CIA agent working undercover.
James McCord, the leader of the burglary team itself. Hunt wasn't in the burglar. He was a supervisor.
Then the head of the burglary team, James McCord, had snuck into the campaign to reelect the president as a security guy, but it's really there to carry out this operation.
So the CIA was using this cover to claim presidential authorization for what was an illegal activity that they'd been doing for 20 years, which was taping prostitutes in their Johns to try to get extortionate material on them.
Now, all of this was illegal.
Hoover was, J. Hoover was disgusted with it and quit helping the CIA do it.
And so they thought that Watergate, this burglary, would be a way of cleansing the operation by claiming presidential authorization.
If, for instance, 10 years later, somebody discovered they were doing this, they'd say, hey, look, no, we got all these checks and things from the White House.
No, this is a White House operation.
So the CIA was really doing this, and the Post knew it.
The Post knew it and knew right away that it was about taping prostitutes in their Johns.
My client, Mark Felt, the also known as Deep Throat, the number two men at the FBI,
the very first morning of the burglary, he reported to his boss that this was a White House operation, a CIA operation, or both.
It turns out it was both, but only with a low-level White House guy who thought he would help his own career,
That's John Dean.
So he was just, he was full of blind ambition.
But mainly it was a CIA operation.
And then when it came time for this, you know, for people to account for the whole idea,
then the CIA's position that, oh, Nixon was just terribly trying to pin this on the CIA.
Who says the CIA was involved?
No, it's terrible.
And the CIA was right up there.
They were the cheerleaders against Nixon.
and they really did to offend themselves, to not get caught for this.
They were the first people to say, oh, no, Nixon, oh, this is terrible.
Oh, yeah, it's Nixon, and they're trying to blame the CIA.
And Nixon really was only sort of guessing at shadows that the CIA might have been involved.
He didn't know.
And who's going to tell them?
Then the CIA withheld documents from the Watergate Committee that was so famous that had these televised hearings.
They withheld documents showing their involvement, and they ended up producing them because of an honest whistleblower within the CIA, but only after the televised hearings.
Now, nobody knew about these documents.
And when Howard Baker, the senator, tried to say that the CIA was involved, the Washington Post just poo-pood him.
but there was no counter media like we have today.
Today, if a guy like Senator Baker did this,
the really sharp talk radio and alternative conservative media would be all over it.
It wouldn't just be a one-sided megaphone coming out of D.C.
That's right.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Now, you know, back on the CIA connection on WAPO,
So would you argue positively that essentially President Trump's problems quite often with the so-called deep state have really been intelligence operations, our own intelligence, trying to take down our president?
Well, we know that.
We know that from, look what happened with the Hunter Biden laptop.
Yeah.
The problem is the agencies are all in bed with the Democratic Party because they get the most benefits from them.
and they're all, for one reason or another, in Washington, just they're all Democrats.
Traditionally, they've been that, you know, and all the largest that comes out of the State Department,
which is traditionally a democratic outfit, and the CAs consists about half of the State Department people.
So, yeah, yeah, look what happened.
51 former intelligence agents came out with the bogus report.
Everybody knows it's bogus.
that somehow the Hunter Biden laptop was rushing disinformation.
51 people said that, and it was just a partisan hit job.
And any of them paid a penalty for that?
They didn't.
And there was one loan of intelligence official who disputed the idea that Russia interfered with the election,
and that's Mike Rogers, who's, I think, now running for office.
but he was in charge of, I just forget what his intelligence agency was, but he was one of the four, the only one of the four who said, no, Russia wasn't involved in this election, no.
So the intelligence agencies are definitely stacked against Trump, but they're stacked against every Republican that's in office.
It's just the bottom line. John O'Connor once again, the book Postgate.
And it's how the Washington Post betrayed Deep Throat covered up Watergate and began today's partisan advocacy.
journalism. We talked about the book a lot here, and it's a great book. I read it.
I would just, yeah, but that's not even why I invited you all. But, you know, it's just
interesting to see how the revisionist, the Nixon revisionism is going on right now, and I just
never thought I would see the day. I mean, we're talking about more than him just giving
interviews back in the 1970s to David Frost. You know what I'm getting at? There's just more to it
than that. Interesting. I wanted to ask you, though, and this has to do with something just
intrigues with you being an attorney, trial lawyer, all the rest of me, and a prosecutor.
You've done this all.
And chat GPT is now being sued.
Open AI is being sued for a butload of money.
And this all has to do with people getting bad medical advice from a chat bot.
Now, I don't get my medical advice from a chat bot in the first place.
But if I did, I would be kind of considering the source.
And I'm just kind of wondering, is this going to be the next?
wrinkle here in product liability. I mean, actually suing the computer advice giver, you know, of some
sort. What is your overall take on that? Well, I think that, I think this thing is going to get
quashed. I think the whole idea of liability, because somebody's silly enough to follow the
advice of something on the Internet. I mean, listen, I go on the Internet. I've got a bad knee right now.
I go on the Internet and get my advice, and I go in and see the physicians. I tell them what the
that told me, they all have a good laugh.
You know, people understand this.
But I'll tell you, the more serious thing, though, Bill, is this suit by the New York Times
against CHET, against Open IAI, on the theory that they have learned by digesting all the former
publishing of the New York Times, and they did that to teach themselves.
And they're using Times material.
Now, I think that's a very interesting angle they're taking, and yet that has been the criticism of a lot of what's going on with the rise of AI that essentially everything humans have ever produced, including copyrighted material, is being fed into these large language models.
I think they may have a case, don't you think?
As an attorney, looking at that?
Well, yeah, but let's look at the other side.
Now, those same newspapers that are complaining about it also use open AI.
That's true.
When the Times does something, and I'm sure there are all kinds of reporters that use Open AI to just get background material and everything else, when they do that, for instance, when the New York Times is writing an article helped by AI, they may be poaching some stuff that was in the post or the LA Times or you name it, some other magazine or book.
So it's really very, very interesting.
And, you know, the time suit is not that OpenAI is publishing copyrighted articles.
Now, you've got another issue there if you decide that you're going to be a source of these articles
and so that no one has to go to the by the time subscription.
But that's one thing.
But what they're saying is that they're using time stuff and not necessarily.
copying a copyrighted article. Now the other problem you have, Bill, is there's this fair use
doctrine. You can use, I mean, authors often research newspapers to come up with their material
to say, hey, look what happened. I do it. I mean, that's what I did Postgate on. I researched
everything the Post wrote, but it's fair use because what I'm doing it is a history deal.
I'm looking at their reporting and saying it's false. But I use it.
their reporting, and I think that's fair use. So it's a very complicated area. And now, they're
using this stuff to educate themselves. Well, researchers often do that. They use the New York
Times to find out what happened, you know, what the media was reporting, for instance, back
when, you know, Stalin's did his thing in Russia. And so it's really very, very intriguing. I'll say that.
And I think probably the times and these other outfits are looking for a little bit of compensation is what I would say it is.
They're going to try to come up with some way of getting paid for this.
Yeah, would you predict there some sort of out-of-court settlement on something like that?
And, all right, you know, give us a few hundred million or whatever it is of that, of all of that grease that the stock holders have ended up putting in the company.
Yeah, it's almost like licensing.
It's almost like with these music sites, it's almost like, okay, Gordon Lightfoot's estate is going to license his music.
Maybe in the New York Times can say we're licensing our stuff here.
This is just like records.
We're licensing and we'll do it for, you know, X dollars a year you can have a license.
You know, I mean, right now, if you're a sports venue and you're playing music at halftime, you've got to pay, you know, these.
these outfits that collect copyrights for all the artists. You've got a, you know, I forget their
initials. They're two acronyms of BMI and ASCAP. BMI and ASCAP. Yeah. So it may well be that we
have that model here. And I think that's what they're looking for. They're looking for another
source of income. All these newspapers, and I sympathize with them. You know, I pay for
subscriptions to a lot of these papers. And they need to monetize their work.
work because, you know, people aren't taking the papers at home. So it's a very interesting thing.
It's a new media landscape. We're sort of making it up. We should we go along? And that's what's
kind of cool about America. You know, everybody's figuring out a new deal here.
Yeah, and everyone has to try to figure out an angle on the racket. That's all we can say,
John. That's right. Now, Bill, you've got to help me out. How do I get paid for this? I don't know.
I don't know. I'm looking for that, too. And as soon as I figure out how to get my part,
of the racket, how to get my, what is it, wet my beak, as the Italians used to say, with the
mafia, right?
Wet my beak, right.
How do we do that?
John, a pleasure talking with you as always.
And by the way, you can fight out more about what John writes also on postgatebook.com, postgatebook.com.
I appreciate you.
It's an interesting look back in history of Nixon's resurrection and also, in many ways,
what is going on with some current legal rules.
By the way, do you think that the Save America Act will get passed?
What does your political gut say?
I know I was talking with John Lott about it last hour.
No, it won't.
I don't.
I just won't.
And I think Trump's probably spending political capital by trying to push it.
He's not going to get anywhere, and he's not getting other things that he probably could get.
But, I mean, I'd like the act passed.
Don't get me wrong.
I just don't think for several reasons.
Some of the Republicans are just gunshots.
on it. So.
All right. Fair enough. John, always a pleasure. Be well. Thanks.
Okay, Bill. Take care.
John O'Connor, once again, postgatebook.com. Postgatebook.com.
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847. We'll get right back to your phones here on Conspiracy Theory Thursday.
Paul's here. Hello, Paul. What's going on?
Hi. Good morning. Good morning. I was a guard for President Kennedy in 1962. I was in the
U.S. Navy. Yes. And I was also involved in the invasion of
of Cuba, 1961. But the most powerful fact I know about Nixon and Kennedy was the day of the
assassination, maybe it was the day after the assassination, Nixon got off a plane in New York City
and a reporter asking, Mr. Nixon, where were you the day President Kennedy was assassinated?
And Nixon was the only person on the face of the earth who said, I can't remember where I was
the day President Kennedy was assassinated because everybody else on earth, I even met students
from African countries when I give lectures around the country who can remember where they were
the day Kennedy was assassinated. But Nixon is the only person that ever said, I can't
remember where I was. Well, that's really interesting. I'm not familiar with that. I'd almost
have to look that up, Paul, but that's quite fair. You know, the funny thing is, is that Nixon and
Kennedy, for all of their political oppositions, were actually quite close. And so, which I found
the PepsiCola Bottlers Convention in Dallas that day. And Joan Crawford was there, Nixon was there,
Dulles was there, Ober was there at the PepsiCola Bottler's Convention in Dallas. So Nixon was there,
and yet he can't remember where he was the day of the assassination.
Okay, well, you're going to make me look that up there, Paul.
That's the year I was born, so I'm going to have to – no, you're talking to 63, though, not 61, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, yeah.
I just want to double check because I was only two years old then, all right?
So what I'm learning, I'm learning from you.
Okay.
And the Pepsi Cola Bottlers Convention and Dallas, do you know about that?
No, I can't say I do, no.
Well, look that up.
That's easier because Nixon was there, along with Dulles, and, you know.
Joan Crawford, the wife of the president of Pepsi Cola.
Yeah, mommy dearest.
All right.
All right.
So thank you, Paul.
You're going to make me look this up and see if I can revise anything about this.
But the one thing, I think my favorite Nixon quote, though, was the one that was back in the, I think, in the early 70s.
Well, for the president does it, that it's not illegal.
How about that?
That, it was great.
Thanks for the call.
770-K-M-ED.
Yeah, you know, to a certain thing.
extent, though, it's true. Presidents can get away with a lot, I guess. Hi, KM.D. Good morning. Who's this?
Hey, good morning, Bill. This is Phil, Robiver. Phil, take it away. What's on your mind today, huh?
On a lighter note, other than the assassination, back to that Occamette thing in the spelling.
Yes. I thought you were trying to set the guy up because I thought it was going to be AC-K-M-E-D.
You know, I could have done that. That wouldn't have been very nice of me, though, would it?
No, but I'm not sure what the actual correct spelling of Ahmed is, but...
Well, everywhere I'm seeing it when it comes to the Jeff Dunham, it says, A-C-H-M-E-D, but, yeah, we'll just kind of leave it at that.
I was just trying to be funny.
Yeah, but I tell you, though, I have to figure it.
I was just impressed that he got all three.
I'm thinking, okay, first guy's not going to do all three, but of course it took him a while to figure it out,
and I hope he wasn't Googling the term, but we'll see.
I kind of suspected that he was because it took so long, and he just stammered, stuttered,
I guess I was feeling overly generous.
Thanks, Phil.
Let me go to the next line.
Hi, KMED.
Good morning.
Okay, let me go to the next one.
Hi, KMEDE.
Good morning.
Who's this?
Good morning, Bill.
Tom here.
Tom, take it away.
What's on your mind today?
I want to reinforce what Paul said.
It's absolutely true.
It is true, huh?
I follow that through the years and so forth.
The night before, Ken Dee was assassinated,
there's a big party.
The D. Mornschild was one of the big wigs down in Dallas.
Yeah, but wasn't that?
Now, are you talking about the Democrats, the LBJ gang down there or not?
Yeah, well, it was, there was like a big party, and all the ones that he just mentioned, they were there.
One of the stories is that when the LBJ walked out of the party, he told his girlfriend, he said,
And by tomorrow, you're not going to have to worry about the Kennedy brothers anymore.
Yeah, I've read that.
Yeah.
So, you know, the fact that we have not addressed the murder of JFK by the national security state is we're paying for it today.
It reverberates today because when we had these great deep wounds that are not dealt with,
We end up paying the price.
And the price is we have this out of control of national security state that operates even today.
That's why they don't want to reveal anything about it.
Thank you for the call.
Good take on it.
As always, 770 KMED next on Conspiracy Theory Thursday.
Hi, who's this?
Good morning.
Good boy, it's Lucretia.
Hi, Lucretia.
You can't have a CTT without you.
Go ahead.
Your first call today was about losing your memory.
Yes. Yeah, that was, yes, yes, the lady from the Applegate, Vicki and the Applegate.
Okay, so Vicki, it's going to get really wild here. In 1971, Philistine, Sillaciaman was cleared to have no accepted medical use.
This year, they gave it to a woman with 10 years of Alzheimer's, five years of near silence, 80-year-old woman took a single dose of psilocylin mushrooms,
and roughly about 19 hours later, she began to speak about her whole life.
She had had total incontinence.
She couldn't walk on her own.
She didn't know anybody.
So the psilocybin compound ended up helping this woman recover like that, really?
Literally.
You know, I mean, this is getting us to question one of the most important of all of the neurosciences.
Her alertness returned.
She recognized her whole family, asked about people that were missing.
She walked on her own.
She dressed herself.
She acted on her own intuitive intuition again.
After five years of incontinence, she was dry, including through the night, working memory flicked back.
She asked where a specific person had gone.
She correctly identified vehicles.
She held eye contact.
She smiled back at people.
Why isn't this a headline news story, Lucretia?
It's what I'm wondering.
It was on green that info.
I'll resend it to you, but it's just phenomenal.
Oh, please do that because, you know, I'll share it on my blog today.
I'm fascinated with that if that's the case because if so, you know, I was really hard on the psilocybin growth of that
because I was just thinking, oh, is just another way to get high in Oregon?
Because that tends to be what we like to do.
You had a woman on the belt with depression.
It was supposed to be helping with that too or something?
Yeah, actually, yeah, she was.
and PTSD, I was talking with her about that.
And she, I think it was the Christian guide to psilocybin or psychedelics is what she wrote.
And she was saying that this is something that should be explored more.
Great conspiracy theory Thursday call, Lucretia.
Thank you.
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