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Episode Date: July 25, 2025

Morning news of the day, former fed attorney John OConnor, author of POSTGATE, breaks down the treason file talk from the Tulsi Gabbard press conference, open phones follow.

The Bill Meyer Show podcast is sponsored by Clauser Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at clauserdrilling.com. Here's Bill Meyer. Hey, great to have you here for Conspiracy Theory Thursday on Thursday, July 24th. 67 degrees on our way to about 96, about 92. Be a little cooler over the weekend. We'll take that too.

Appreciate you being here. Join the conversation at 7705633770KMED. Betty wrote me. I wanted to share this email because she brings up some things and I think it has to do with this feeling of homeless fatigue. I had a couple of guests this week, both Chad McComas from Set Free Services, that ministry working to help homeless here in Jackson County and in Josephine County, I ended up talking with Brian Boteller yesterday from the Grants Pass Gospel Rescue Mission, and they were both working on different homelessness projects, and I was kind of getting an update on this, and Betty writes to me, Bill, I was listening to the show

yesterday when the guy near the Gospel Missions Place was talking about rounding up more support for more homeless places off of Harbeck. When is supporting homeless overkill? They move into this town for more free stuff, food, kids, school supplies, babysitters, baby supplies, free medical care, and the list goes on. And now another new homeless shelter with studio-sized apartments for three million plus. How come we don't hear more about the tiny houses down on southwest Jordan, close to the sobering center? They don't bother to track

these people and see where they're really from and what local services they already get. Well, I'll tell you right now, Betty, as far as the state of Oregon is concerned, they don't give a flying crap about where a homeless person is. If they're here and their pulse is still beating and they haven't gone down from a fentanyl overdose yet, we're supposed to do everything to help them. But I digress. I'll continue with what Betty's saying. They they don't see where they're really from, what local services they already get like cell phones, cash, dollars, clothes, money, food pantry and other free services. We have to support these people where they can use their cash dollars for drugs and drinking. This whole town has turned into a big homeless mess.

Taxpayers are sick and tired of it. And the final straw for me, the million dollar mountain that they're now trying to burn up. Yeah, I know the county is working on that one, Betty, trying to get that all cleared out. In fact, I guess they stopped some downsizing in Josephine County government, even though they don't have a lot of money at the moment here. But I thought that was interesting they're doing that. But anyway, Betty says, thanks for listening to my rant. I do have a whole lot more to say later. You know, Betty, you're not alone. I get stuff like this all the time, I really do.

The only, I'm just saying that if you're going to sit around there with your verbal shotgun and blast away at the accommodations for the homeless. I get that. I completely understand it. I'll go into Bear Creek Plaza off of Biddle Road in Medford and I'll be going to shop at BuyMart or one of the other stores or get something for my mom, those kind of things. And it's just festooned with the panhandlers all around there and they'll be sitting around there on the curbs and they'll be sitting under the trees

in the shade all day holding up the sign saying, you know, anything helps, et cetera, et cetera. And I'll see guys in their mid-20s, girls, women in their mid-20s, early 30s, maybe that sort of deal, and holding up the signs and doing their... Well, they just sit around all day holding up signs, in many cases. And I'm thinking, gosh, you're able-bodied. If you can hold up a sign, you could probably go apply someplace. Now, I understand that if you are homeless, it might be considered a little tougher to get a job because you have to have permanent address, etc. But there are services available to help them do this.

So I feel your pain. I really do. I completely understand your irritation at the coddling of it. I even think about here at the radio station where we used to have everything open and it was no big deal, but we had to put fencing around it like Stalag 17 because otherwise you... You know, oh, here's another person sitting in the doorway, sleeping in our doorway in the morning when we would come in. I mean, oh, and okay, this generator got vandalized and they stole the battery, you know. I mean, we were having all this kind of stuff. Everyone's having to face this, and I absolutely understand. Here's the difference though between the other forced coddling of drug addicts that is going

on in Jackson and Josephine County, and what Chad McComas of Joy Community and what Brian Otheller over at Gospel Rescue Mission with their, I forget the name of their community, but a different type of, well, the one on Harbeck that you were talking a homeless problem which is not connected with the bumdum. It's not connected with drunk, disorderly, and drugged-up people. It is strictly and only for poor homeless seniors. It's for senior citizens and senior citizens that have to be behaving themselves. In other words, if you're coming in and you're a drug addict and you're drinking yourself silly and you know that you're not going to get this.

This is just in reaction to what has been going on with the real estate and rental market around here in which, gosh, if you have a social security check of $1,200 a month, there is not much. I don't know if there's much of anything that you could probably be able to afford and pay for your Medicare supplementals and food and anything else that might be coming in. It's just strictly to help the people that really have no family and nowhere to go. And a lot of times these senior citizens have been living in cars. It's been a growing problem and that's more of a real estate, an affordable housing problem. I know as Governor Kotech, and the other thing you have to remember is that a lot of affordable senior housing

Was vaporized a few years ago. They all meet a fire thousands well these hundreds hundreds of those Of those a lot of those mobile home parks over in the Phoenix area South Medford and Say what you will they may have not been the been the best looking mobile homes, but they were cheap, they were paid for, and they were someone's home. And so all of that ends up being replaced with brand new shiny homes that are not nearly as affordable. It's just the reality. And so I understand you upset at the coddling and the state telling you, hey, you better dig deep, Grants Pass, Medford, Ashland. Of course, Ashland's happy to do that. As a matter of fact, I'm going to have to share, in just a second, I'm going to share

an ad that Alistair sent me about the sleeping lawn, the sleeping lawn supervisor. There's actually a job opening here in Southern Oregon. I'll get that. I'll tell you more about that here in just a minute. I can understand you being really irritated at that. But what's going on with Chad McComas and Brian Boteller is that they're taking private sector money to actually build very modest, very modest. In fact, Chad's place is going to be more like tiny homes with a communal shower, communal bathroom, things like that. Brian's place up at Union Gospel Rescue Mission in Grants Pass, Union one's in Medford. But anyway, those are different. Those are strictly for non-drunk and

disorderly seniors, no family, and no money or very little money and they're still going to pay to get into them. And they're fulfilling a need which is honorable. I think they're doing a good thing and they're not enabling derelict behavior unlike so much of the homeless industrial complex. So I just wanted to explain that a little bit better. And I hope that makes you feel a little bit better about what they're doing on Harbeck after talking with Brian Boteller yesterday.

Nineteen minutes after six at KMED, 99.3 KBXG. Great show coming up as always. John O'Connor, I think we're going to get our phone systems fixed up here this morning and get together. I wasn't able to talk with him yesterday, but now there's even more news and He's the guys the former Fed prosecutor wrote post gate how the Washington Post betrayed deep throat We will be talking about everything from now The order is going out to talk to galane Maxwell where he thinks that might go what about shift

You know, they're Trump is saying that Schiff should go down for mortgage fraud at least. And I also want to get his legal eagle eye view on what's going on here with what Tulsi Gabbard talked about. Declassifying all of that. Everything implicating Obama. Obama essentially was behind the coup. All right? And, you know, could he technically go down for it? Probably. Is he going to? I don't know. But I'm going to talk with John about that here in the next few minutes, too. Dr. Bonner Cohen is also going to be weighing in on a different legal issue. He's from the Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow. Interesting guy.

And the international court, or the world court yesterday, issued an order that says that every country has to be involved in reducing climate change causing CO2 and methane. This is the order from unelected international judges at the world court. I don't know how they actually enforce this, but at the same time the Trump administration is giving the United Nations a big middle finger anyway. I'm wondering how this will work out. We'll talk with Dr. Cohen about that. And another doctor, Dr. Jane Orient, MD, one of my favorite medical guests, and she's the executive director at the Association for American Physicians and Surgeons, aapsonline.org, by the way. Great group.

And I've been talking with their various people and dealing with them for a long time. Medical freedom, everything about the patient rather than the medical industrial complex, which is what we suffer under or endure so much here in the United States of America. The story is now coming out and the reason I brought her on is that just the other day I was getting my real ID and they asked me if I wanted to be an organ donor. And I automatically said no. I said, no, I don't want to be an organ donor. Right. I've been kind of irritated at the way the organ donor system works in the world in which everybody makes bank, everybody makes money except the people who donate. And you're always implored, oh, you just need, it's the right thing to do.

It's the altruistic thing to do. And then everybody else gets money. It's kind of like the same kind of money in the transgender surgeries deal over at OHSU. I get irritated. Everyone's allowed to make money except the people. Now, I know they're changing around some of those. Then I read this 15-page article from the New York Times and other people have been picking this up and it hasn't been getting a lot of noise but they're discovering that hospitals everywhere, they're thinking that what's going on is that there's so much demand for transplantable organs that people are in essence being killed or killed early in order to get the you know the organs for transplant. Yikes! It's like everyone's like worst

nightmare. You're in there and you're in a bit of a coma and hey is the world turning into... gosh what was that movie? I was a young man there's Monty Python and I know if you're a woman you probably know they're not think about Monty Python. Most women don't like Monty Python but guys do for some reason. It's kind of like three stooges. There's a Monty Python and three stooges gene, but that men have, right? But there was, what was it? The meaning of life. Monty Python is the meaning of life in the early 1980s. And I can always remember this one in which the guy, you know, the crew ends up going up and knocks on this poor Brit's door and opening up and they're here for your liver and what do you mean you're here for my liver and and then

they end up beating him up there and they dig into his pocket and they pull out the pocket out of his pocket see what's here liver donor card well need we say more and he says but I'm using it. Well, needless to say, they kill him anyway and take his liver. Now, that was done for comic effect in the early 1980s. The question is, though, is there a little bit of that going on, other than the fact, you know, they're putting people to sleep and taking them early. In other words, they're ignoring brain activity. That's pretty scary stuff.

And they're looking more into this and Dr. Jane Orient, MD has an interesting take on it too and she was telling me, you know, there isn't really a lot of regulation or hard and set rules on how the medical world deals with this and she'll tell us more after the eight o'clock news and we'll have her on. She's always interesting. I mean that's Conspiracy Theory Thursday, isn't it? Right out there at the open. 770KMED this is the Bill Meyer show. Joel here from Butler Ford & Trucks. I've got 91 new and used SUVs including Ford Broncos with a low lease payment of only $388 a month. That's right pay less

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Gene took a slug of coffee. She called in. How you doing, Gene? That's on your mind. I'm doing fine. How about you? I'm doing okay. Doing okay.

The coffee is tasting extra good this morning. Slept well. You know, I have to tell you, the way I feel every morning is almost predicated on how much sleep I get. What about you? Well, it depends. But anyway, okay, like I said, the way the Democrats are yelling for the upstate files to be released, it means they've already

put in the information they want and it's against President Trump, of course. I know that President Trump was told a couple of months ago, in one report I was reading, that he was mentioned in the Epstein file several times. I don't know if you could make the case that the Democrats have added or put additional information in there, because I think the president was always in there, because he traveled there and used to pal around with Jeffrey Epstein. He stopped paling around with him about 20-something years ago. I think he figured out that he was dealing with more than just a guy who liked young women. I think that's what was going on.

But you know, Epstein socialized with all of them, including Trump. Sure. But like I said, the reason they are yelling is because they have done something and so the Epstein fellows are no longer honest. And that's what I said some time ago. Well, you're kind of in... it's kind of conjecture. We don't know that. We don't know that. We might think that, but I don't think we know that, do we? Well, we haven't proven it, but we never proved why they were yelling to get the files open.

Oh, well, I think they're yelling to get the files open because Trump promised that he was going to release it and he didn't. And so it obviously gives the Democrats an opening to, you know, obviously it's an embarrassment because the Democrats had it. And frankly, if there was really, really bad compromising stuff on Donald Trump, and I would agree, I do think they would have released it during the Biden administration or the Obama administration, don't you? Well, perhaps there's too many Democrats in there. Well, yeah.

Remember, we are talking about a guy that was hanging around in New York, so your odds of finding a pervert Democrat were probably higher than a pervert Republican. But needless to say, there's a lot of people who have gone there over on Lolita Express over the years for quite some time. So yeah, that's it. You could be right, but I haven't heard any evidence or anybody saying, even with Pam Bonnie looking at the Supposedly looking at the files and the evidence on her desk, you know how that goes

I haven't heard any evidence or seen any evidence that indicates that someone has added to it or somehow or added additional Trump entries Well, I figured that's the only reason puky was yelling to get it out. Mm-hmm She really wanted out. Yeah, who's puky by the way? to get it out. Still wanted out. Yeah, who's Pukey by the way? I'm just curious. Who's Pukey when you say Pukey? That game that is constantly yelling, policy or something like that.

Oh, okay. All right. I just call her Pukey because she'd be a good one to puke on. Okay. Well, thank you for that, okay. All right. I just call her a puking because she'd be a good one to puke on. Okay. Well, thank you for that, Gene. It's an interesting conspiracy theory, but I don't know if there's any evidence that anything has been added to put additional Trump entries in there. It could be. It could be possible. Government intelligence is capable of many, many things, for sure. 6.30, this is the Bill Maier show, and someone who certainly knows about government conspiracies, it's former federal prosecutor John O'Connor, and he'll join me.

He was there back in the Watergate era. In fact, he wrote his book about Watergate, Postgate, how the Washington Post betrayed Deep Throat, and really brought us to today's advocacy journalism. Of course, today's advocacy journalism usually goes after one party and one party only, but I digress. We'll continue that all coming up. Hi, this is Bill Meyer. I always appreciate you listening no matter the time.

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going on right now at KIA Medford. Click kiamedford.com. News Talk 1063, KMED. You're waking up with the Bill Meyers show. John O'Connor joins me. He's the author of Postgate, How the Washington Post Betrayed Deep Throat Covered Up Watergate. Be began today's partisan advocacy journalism, served as an assistant U.S. attorney in Northern California representing the U.S., experienced trial lawyer, been in San Francisco since 72. You're out of town right now, over in, I guess in the Midwest at this point, but it's great to have you back on the show. Welcome, John.

Yeah, yeah, Bill. I'm on the western part of Michigan, right on the lake, and it's sort of a desolate place. It's near South Haven and Benton Harbor. So God help us on our connection, but so far so good. All right. I know that you have an article coming out pretty soon, probably going to be in the American Greatness or American Greatness and various other sites this morning that I actually really enjoy. But I would appreciate hearing your breakdown of what Tulsi Gabbard, DNI chair, DNI head, ended up bringing forward yesterday. It was, it seems like she had the receipts that, yeah, it was Obama all along, wasn't it? But how are

you pulling this out? I mean, you've dealt with conspiracies back in the Watergate era, right? Well, Obama interestingly knew all about this from the summer of 2016. He knew that Russiagate was a hoax created by Hillary, and we know that. That is to say, because she had had some downloads from people who were Bernie Sanders supporters, downloads of her DNC documents, which made Hillary look pretty bad vis-a-vis Bernie Sanders. So she made up this Russian conspiracy thing to claim it was a Russian hack of the DNC, not an internal download, to blame it all on Russia. And it worked.

She went around the convention that year and told everybody about this big conspiracy of Trump and Russia hacking things, and everybody fell for it. And nobody, the split did not occur between Bernie and Hillary. Now, we know this. This is not something I'm making up. Everybody's trying to claim this is just a made-up conspiracy. On July 5th, 2016, John Brennan, the head of the CIA, with James Comey, head of the FBI, Susan Rice, Joe Biden, and Barack Obama, all in attendance,

downloaded, briefed the group on how this was a Hillary campaign plot. Okay, so that's not anything I'm making up. At the same time, another FBI agent apart from this was reporting the same thing, a guy named Michael Gaeta in London who interviewed Steele. So they knew, then later on, Brennan made a criminal referral to the FBI claiming that this is all a phony story. Now Brennan did that internally, but to the external world, he told everybody the same false story, you know? And then later on, he could claim that he was just doing disinformation, CIA people disinform. My point is that they knew that this was created by Hillary. Now come the election has occurred, if it is true that whether or not there's any conspiracy

by Trump or anybody else, if it is true that Russia really interfered with the election in a massive way, well, you can't really blame Comey and Brennan for investigating, even if they did so a little dishonestly or too vigorously and so forth and so on. It's kind of with their trump card. Look, we really have a real problem here. Russia really interfered in the election. This is an assault on our democracy and by gosh we should not be faulted just because we were a little bit aggressive in going after Trump and opening up a FISA warrant and so forth and spying on him. Okay, John, that has to be...

Anybody with half a legal brain would have to think that is total nonsense. Is that kind of where you're coming from? No, no, wait, here's my point. Here's my point. Yes, I still believe they're acting dishonestly, but let's assume... Here's where Tulsi Gabbard's revelation comes in. Let's assume it is true, and I don't... It is not true, but let's assume it's true that Russia really was massively interfering in the election. Now, it's one thing to say that Trump was or wasn't involved in that, but if there's a massive interference by Russia, certainly our agency should look into that to see if anybody in the United States is involved with Russia.

You know, and see my point? So even if they were dishonest in joining, in trying to ferret out this conspiracy and attach Trump to it, at least you can say, by gosh, these guys were trying to protect us. Maybe they got overzealous and told some lies, but by God, they had a basis to do what they were doing. However, now today, Bill, we know that Russia didn't interfere, and as a matter of fact, Trump expected a Hillary win. Or you mean Putin expected a Hillary win, right?

Not Putin, I'm sorry. Putin expected a Hillary win, I'm sorry. And furthermore, all the people, and furthermore, he liked Hillary. Hillary had sold him uranium-1, if you recall that, and he expected, he didn't expect Trump to win. So, and the Russian bots were just a regular bot farm, just people, just independent people trolling to make a few bucks on hits and so forth. There are bots from China and North Korea and even Europe and other places. It's not a big deal. It's just a lot of the fuzz that happens in the

internet. This is all over. There are millions and millions of these bots. So when the intelligence community assessment ordered by Obama first had a draft, their draft said, oh no, there's nothing to see here. You know, no, nothing happened. It was just, you know, it's a few bots. They had nothing to do with the election. This was not a big interference. It was just standard stuff. You know, so the original draft by professionals who poohed the whole idea of Russian interference. Obama told them to go back and say, Russia interfered. So they go back and do that. Brennan and Comey urged, certainly Brennan did, urged the attachment of the I.C.A., which we all

know today is phony, urged attachment of this cartoonishly phony document to the Intelligence Community Assessment. So first, I'll call it the ICA. First, the ICA has been ordered by Obama to say, oh no, this is a massive interference by Russia and it may have affected the election and so forth. Now, added to that is the Steele dossier, which then says, oh, Trump conspired in this interference by Russia. So you have two prongs to it. A, was Russia massively interfering in a way that was important and might have affected the election? And B, was Trump involved in it? So the Steele dossier says Trump was involved in it. The phony ICA says, yes, there was massive interference once

Obama had people change it. So we're starting with two massive lies, right? Well, once Obama changes the ICA, that's the second massive lie. So we already have the Steele dossier massive lie in which Comey is out there getting warrants based on false stuff. Now, FISA warrants. But now we have the false ICA, which now, at least of some credence, when Comey later on testifies to Congress about his Russia-gate investigation, people go, yes, we know that Russia was involved. We know Russia was involved. It was all nonsense. And he was doing it mainly to try to trap Trump. Then, now let me give you another pillar. We all know that when Susan Rice left the White House, she issued a strange email to

herself that was sort of a cover your flanks email in which she admits that in the Oval Office in January of 17, this is after the ICA, the phony ICA. James Comey admits that he potentially will not be telling the incoming Trump team about the real facts around Russiagate and what they're doing in Russiagate. So when Trump comes into office, he doesn't know about these FISA warrants. He doesn't realize that the whole thing is based on a tissue of lies. So Comey uses the Russia Gate investigation to get Trump all frightened, hoping that Trump, like Trump would normally do, will do something rash and be indicted for it. So that was Comey's game plan and to generally use this to destabilize Trump

and the Trump administration. Now, let's go back to the Steele dossier. The Steele dossier, which is, which exposes, supposedly exposes the Putin-Trump plot, all the sources for the Steele dossier, the supposed sources, were all people who worked with Putin. Some Putin agents, Steele was himself a longtime agent of Oleg Deripaska, a Russian oligarch. You go right down the line, everybody had a Russian connection. So if this Steele dossier really, really exposed the Putin plot, would Putin approve it with all his oligarchs and agents involved? No.

No. If it exposed Putin, he wouldn't do that. So clearly, the fact that Putin's guys were in this means that it is a joke and that Putin just laughingly took part in it or knew it was happening. I mean, I don't think Putin really was part of it, but he probably laughingly thought it was funny that Clinton was doing this. Was it more of like stirring? Was it kind of a stirring the pot sort of deal? That's right, that's right, that's right. But Putin really had nothing to do with this. But my point is, if he did, if he was aligned with Trump to interfere with the election,

would he allow all his buddies, all his agents and oligarchs to participate in exposing the plot? Of course not, Of course not. If Bill Meyer were involved in a plot, would all Bill Meyer's agents come in and expose it? Of course not. No. Bill Meyer wouldn't have it, okay? It doesn't make any sense. And so it never did and so forth. So now when Comey gets fired by Trump, because Trump's upset mainly about the publicity,

that Comey is not absolving him publicly of this. So he's mad at Comey for sort of a silly thing. But then, so Comey gets fired. Now what does Comey do? He realizes he's now caught hanging out there. What does he do? He gets his buddy Rosenstein, who doesn't know up from down, Rod Rosenstein, the deputy

attorney general who happens to be a Democrat. He's just been sworn in, but he and McCabe urge Rosenstein to start a special counsel's investigation. Well, the beauty of the special counsel's investigation, which ended up being the Mueller investigation, is any of this bad stuff is going to be investigated by Comey's own allies. So Comey knows that the Mueller investigation gives him a form of immunity. His buddies are investigating this, and of course, they treat the Russian collusion thing

as being absolute Bible, absolute fact. You read the Mueller report, and I know the facts underlying it that I just wanted to throw up when I read it, because the assumption is that Russia was doing all this stuff in line with Trump. So what's so important, let's get back to Tulsi Gabbard. What's important about her revelation is, is that it shows, first of all,

a consciousness by all these people. John? is that it shows first of all the consciousness by all these people. John? Hello John, we got you back there, did we lose you? Alright, just so he's getting to a good closer, let me go see if I can get John here in just a second, I'll get him back on the line, okay? Give me a second. Patriot Electric is bringing power to the people this summer with their I'll get him back on the line. Okay. Visit KMED.com for details and enter to win now through Sunday, August 3rd. Patriot Electric is your authorized Generac dealer for energy independence. Power

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looked up early evenings at eight ground zero news talk one oh six three KMED you're hearing the Bill Meyers show on one oh six three KMED now Bill wants to hear from you five four one seven seven oh five six three three that's 770-KMED. All right. Sorry about that. We lost John O'Connor, but I think he laid out a pretty interesting case here on this Declassified House Report detailing I mean just the lies in the whole Russia, Russia, Russia, the whole Russiagate situation. I tried calling him back several times, but you know he had mentioned that he is out there in this desolate area. He's on vacation over in Michigan out by the lakes. I think he's doing some fishing, doing some camping, and he just lost the cell phone, just can't get it anywhere. But, well, I think we got the basics, you know, the basics of what's going on there,

and just how desperately filled with lies. I mean, and just, and I guess it comes down to the treasonous aspect of this. And I can understand why Tulsi Gabbard calls this treason. Wouldn't you deplorable, Patrick? Good morning. Yes, sir. I'm really sitting on the edge of my seat, grabbing the popcorn, watching this. And yesterday I was watching, I think it was a clip on YouTube from CNN where John Brennan was on there trying to set up some kind of a paper defense. He was saying that Tulsi Gabbard hadn't been in this very long. She wasn't very qualified. She's new to this job.

And that's supposed to make you think that her findings and the documents are invalid. Nothing to do with it. I don't care if she was on the job one day. What matters is the documents and are the assertions true or are they not? That's the only question. Now, Obama is denying it, but of course he put out his denial kind of in a hand-handed fashion and no one, at least I'm not buying it, of course I know maybe people like you and me wouldn't buy it, but his fingerprints are all over it though, not buying it. Of course, I know maybe people like you and me wouldn't buy it, but his fingerprints are all over it though. All over it.

If Tulsi Gabbard had been around for 20 years in that job, she'd be part of the swamp. Yeah, I guess so. The fact that he's new there gives her more credibility. You know, the one thing about this is when you look at this and I know that there are even a lot of Republicans They were not real happy about Tulsi Gabbard going into this position I'm thinking that maybe she ended up being perfect for it and Something came to mind and I was just thinking about this last night You're one of the Democrats when the Democrats and the whole security state put Tulsi Gabbard on the no-fly list, remember that?

Yeah. That's the only thing they could think of. But can you think of a situation more perfect for, I'm coming in here and I know that they're not my friends. In other words, I have no friends in this situation, so I'm just going to go where the evidence leads it, where it takes me, right? That sort of thing. And I have a feeling it's one of the worst things that the system could have done back at that point, not realizing she was going to be making it into D&I at some point, to be able to do this.

Talk about some revenge served cold. What do you think? Yeah, I think it's a tar baby. The more they slug her, the more they get stuck in their own mess. And I will tell you frankly, I liked Chelsea Gabbard even before she came over to the light. Now I love her. I think she's fabulous. All right. Now the question I'm going to pose to the Southern Oregon jury at this point, do you think President Obama will legally spin or swing for something like this? I mean, is there a possibility, do you think that he will go down by this? This is just pure opinion at this point, because we don't know. Because

it would appear that there have been actual crimes committed here. But there also appear to have been lots of crimes committed in the Epstein case too. And all of a sudden we're told not to look at that and look away. And so I actually can commiserate with some of the Democrats that are saying, ah, Trump's just doing this because he wants people to stop paying attention to Epstein. There is probably a little bit of that going on. Would you agree with me on that one, Deplorable Patrick? We needed to change the subject, so to speak,

but that doesn't make it wrong though. What do you think? That is what they're doing. They're trying to change the subject and they're throwing out flack and seeing what sticks. Nothing sticks. But I also say that the Trump administration is trying to change the subject too though. Would you agree with me there? That's possible. I'm not holding out hope that Trump is perfect. He's done such a great job, he doesn't have to be perfect. Okay. Now, do you think though that the United States is ready for a former president to truly face some legal problems and legal challenges based on what he did in office here?

I'm ready and more than half the people are ready because Obama tried to take our country away from us and our children and grandchildren. So it's serious. All right. Thank you very much for the call, Deplorable Patrick. I always appreciate you. Great. Thanks. 770-5633. That is the question. Yeah, we knew that they were lying. Of course, everybody knew that the thing was a lie and We knew, we've been, you know, everybody knew that the thing was a lie and a big piece of BS right from the beginning. You know, we knew, well, anybody who was on our side of the political aisle, let's say, I'm saying collectively more on the conservative side, more of a Trump supporter, even if you don't like necessarily President Trump, you could tell that there was just such a BS investigation set up for this and it led to all sorts of other BS things going on, like them going after General Flynn, General Michael Flynn, who I have been offered for an interview. I'm trying to get him interviewed on this one because remember he went down over all

of this kind of stuff. They came after him, we're going to come after your kids, you know, based on this Russia, Russia, Russia. Remember that Remember that? Do you think we can actually go after Obama? Should we go after Obama? Or would it be better just to embarrass these people so much that they're really not invited in polite society any longer. I mean, how do you do that? In other words, we look at Obama and Obama's no longer getting his $100,000 or he's probably getting more than that if he got the, if he was actually going out for a speech someplace. In other words, you hit them where it hurts with money or something like that.

How do you think? Because the government system doesn't seem to do real well at going after its own people, even if the opposite party is in control. Of course, I don't know. They almost got Trump, though. They really tried hard. 770KMED, I think that'd be an interesting conspiracy theory Thursday talk. Do you think they can actually get Obama and the people around him? Hi, good morning. I'm really happy with Mr. Minor Dave. Yeah good morning. I'm really happy with Mr. Miner Dave.

Yeah Dave. No, believe me, Dave when you call, I know your voice, believe me. And everybody else does too, okay? All right, well the deal here is, is Telsey Gabbard did a really good thing there, and now, you know, Christopher Steele was an MI6 agent, so it does make a treason because he got paid to aid, you know, infringing on Trump's rights. Now, secondly, they just issued a strike force, which is better than if they were to have a special counsel because a special counsel would bury everything. With the strike force it could lead to military tribunals. That would be interesting. Now remember the technical definition of treason is it not essentially warring

against these United States, right? Well no, but it's giving aid and comfort. Oh, getting aid and comfort to the enemy in this case. Yeah. So, if they paid a British spy, which by the way, he would have to have permission from MI6, and at that time would have been Queen Elizabeth II in charge of that. That means that was an act of war against the United States. Interesting. Thank you, Dave. Interesting way of looking at that. Treason. Treason. Treason's a big one. Nobody ever goes down for treason, though. At least not these days.

I don't know. Maybe they'll change. Hi, good morning. Whose is? It is Greg. Yeah, Greg. What are you thinking this morning here? It's a great conspiracy theory Thursday question. Do you think we could get Obama on this or should we? Well, of course we should. Whether we will or not, that's something. But I've got something that I haven't been hearing people talking about, but it scares the hell out of me. And that is that Musk has got this third party now, the America party, and if he sucks half the conservatives away from the Republicans, then the Democrats walk in no matter what kind of idiot they put in office, what they nominate. Yeah, I would agree with you on that, except I don't think they would be sucking half of it. All they need to do is peel away three or four percent. That's all that we take, wouldn't it? Right. It won't take that much at all. But you hear the talking heads on TV talking about,

oh yeah, boy, this would be great if this knucklehead here keeps, you know, if they keep him moving forward. Oh, we're going to be great if Hunter Biden decides to run or whatever. But this third party thing just scares the hell out of me. Americans don't tend to respond real well to third parties, but Musk has enough money, at least at this point in time, that he has enough money, at least at this point in time, that he could actually have some real impact at this point. A regular third party doesn't usually have a chance on the national scene here, but yeah, he's got juice, doesn't

he? Yeah, like you said, it's not going to take that big of a percentage to pull off the conservatives to... Yeah, just enough to peel away the margin. I appreciate the call. Okay, thanks. Thank you. Conspiracy Theory Thursday. Hi, this is Bill. Who's this? This is Francine.

Hello, Francine. Welcome. Well, thank you, Bill. Should we go after Obama? Can we go after Obama? Do you think that this is something that could that could stick? Well, of course we should, but no, it won't ever go anywhere, any more than it went with Hillary, with anything. You have to remember that the people who are truly in charge, we don't even know their name. And these people have all the power to do what they want, and if they don't want somebody brought up, they're not going to let it. It's not going to happen. I mean, this is like, you know, like, like Henry Tudor and his wife, you know, you either please the king or else you lose your head and nobody and you can't, you

cannot go. I mean, you cannot win against these people because they control every aspect of whatever it takes to accomplish anything. They own everything, you know, from the media to the people, to the prosecutors, to whatever. I'm not saying every single one, by the way. I mean, I know there's some that are trying, but you gotta realize that these people, they get threatened.

I mean, we're dealing with monsters. And until we can pull them down, and the only way we can do that is if everybody really got on the same page, and that's how people are, that's probably never going to happen. So you think there's nothing, absolutely no worth to this then? Are you going to go as far as to say that this is just a, okay, let me go down the other conspiracy since it is Thursday on Conspiracy Theory Thursday, is the timing of this? Tulsi Gabbard's declassifying this report, exposing Obama's misdoings, you know, all that kind of stuff, and that he had a lot of help

doing it, and really did. All right. Is this about distracting away from the Epstein investigation? Oh yeah, that's what I thought was the first thing I heard about it. Not that I think she necessarily is behind you doing it as a distraction. I think that she's been behind you doing it as a distraction. I think that she's been encouraged to do it. I don't know that much about her, so I can't really say what I think of her motivation. But there's always a very, very strong possibility of this is how you're going to play it or else.

It's almost like we, you know, it's like the story, whatever story that we're being fed right now, it's never the story, right? It's not the story. It's the what's the purpose of the real story is the story about getting Patriots wound up against that? You know, I just want to make sure that we're not going down yet another Lucy with the football. And, you know, here are Patriots with Charlie. Yeah, we're going to be clean. Okay, we couldn't get the all the power, politically powerful perverts that might have been dealing with with FC. Can't do that. That's too hot, too hot of a potato. That is a bipartisan, bipartisan honeypot, right? Nobody wants to go and touch that one too much right now. But maybe we sacrifice Obama, right? We finally sacrifice the one Obama. They're not gonna. Yeah? Not gonna do it?

They're not gonna sacrifice him. He's been too much of a player. I mean, he was groomed as a young man, you know? He was actually born into it from what I understand, from everything I've looked into about him. And his mother, of course, part of the CIA. Yeah, yeah. What I'm trying to say is it's become such a powerful entity with so many different facets that I don't know how people can possibly beat them back. I don't know. I don't have the knowledge to be able to come up with a really good idea. And even if I did, getting people behind it, because people are so pacified, you know, you give them all their goodies, you know, their 5G phones that they can sit there and

stare at all day long and blah, blah, blah. I mean, they are winning in terms of creating a bunch of an idiot pacified population around the whole world almost. All right. Francine, I appreciate the call. I'm going to use you, okay, and we'll continue with this question. Is Francine right about this? Nothing you can do, and we are just being dumbed down and stupefied and being distracted by this one, or do you think you can do? And we are just being dumbed down and stupefied and being distracted by this one? Or do you think that what Tulsi Gabbard has done could actually lead to some real justice being dealt to some really bad actors, including former President Obama, who needs some action dealt to them, in my opinion? We can discuss that and more. This is Conspiracy Theory Thursday. This is where you can have at it, you know. By the way, this is KMED, KMED HD1, Eagle Point Medford, KBXG, Grants Pass. And before

town hall news, hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome. Hey, this is Jake. Jake, good to have you on. What are you thinking? Well, I heard that there were some FBI guys talking and they were saying, well, we need to interview Comey. We need to interview a couple other guys that's not coming to me. But they said, oh, no, they've all been pardoned. They pardoned him. He said, yeah, but it's a felony to lie now to the FBI. You're right. That's absolutely right. So you could subpoena them, haul them up, haul them up

in the dock, right? And they have to testify and tell the truth, don't they? Yep. And they won't. And there is, I didn't hear Tulsi say this, but I heard somebody say something about there was an Operation Silent. And that sounded like there was a plot to kill Trump, manufactured by those guys. But even if you go past that... And now, boy, wouldn't that be the money shot? No pun intended, right? That's treason.

And they spent... the whole Russigate thing is proving to be a lie. And they spent a long time and they got the media parroting all that. And remember, they impeached him twice essentially over what sprung from Russiagate. Interfering with the president, you know, that's treason. It's like the rule of the war, the law, rule, manual, the war of manual. If another country interferes with your election, that's an act of war. It's an act of war if it's another country. But it does sound like it was not Russia interfering with as much as it was perhaps what Dave was talking about, Christopher Steele, British

spy, right? Right. And it was China because the Dominion headquarters is in Serbia and Colorado and Venezuelan families have already been sequestered inside this country safely. They have all the goods and the proof that there were 72 countries where the elections were manufactured. All right, thanks for the call. It's an interesting theory. I have read that one. You can email me a link to it. I appreciate it, okay? And as long as it doesn't say QAnon next to the website. Okay? All right.

We'll catch up with what else is going on here in just a moment. Then we'll get out of the conspiracy and go back into the... Well, I guess news reports these days are kind of like, what is generally accepted is true. We'll just keep it at that and then more of your calls.