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Episode Date: July 25, 2025

Conspiracy Theory Thursday talk, Dr. Bonner Cohen from CFACT talks the International Court ruling on climate change...will it matter?

The Bill Myers Show podcast is sponsored by Clouser Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at www.clouserdrilling.com. It is Conspiracy Theory Thursday. Happy to take your calls. 770-5633-770-KMED. This got a text message from Andy Pollack. Sent me a picture of him in the, in the White House with Trump the other day.

I guess he was in the back of the back of the room when they were doing the trade deal announcement, the trade deal announcement with Japan. And I think that I'm not exactly sure why he was there. And so I just I'll pop them a text message. Maybe I'll give him a call here a little bit later. Remember Andy Pollack, of course, a big activist for firearms, and his daughter Meadow ended up passing away, ended up being murdered in the Parkland shootings a number of years ago. Lives over in the Lake Creek area, if I understand, of Jackson County. So I'll see if I can get him on in the next hour. I'd be curious to find out what was going on and why he was there. 18 minutes after 7, 7705633 to join in. Why don't I touch in? Besides, yeah, if you want to weigh in on your theory, I mean, you think that Obama is touchable? Is Obama no longer intouchable after what Tulsi Gabbard said yesterday?

If so, what do you think could, would, or should be done? That's one topic we can bring in this morning. Another topic is how much do you want to pay to make ODOT happy? Because that's what's really going to be going on here. August 29th, I love this, Labor Day weekend. Governor Kotech is expecting to get the Democrats and the Republicans together in Salem. Outside of Earshot, well, you're having a Labor Day barbecue cookout, some sort of a get together, Labor Day weekend, and they want to raise taxes. Now, the Republicans don't want to raise taxes, but if they

show up, they'll probably be able to raise taxes. So this is what we know right now. How much are you willing to pay and dig deep in order to keep Queen Kotech happy and have no layoffs over at ODOT? This is what they're talking about now. There has been nothing that is actually officially put into a bill yet. So this is just what the governor is talking about. This is what is on her agenda. Queen Tina, Queen Kotek.

It's quite the laundry list. Now right now we have a forty cent per gallon gasoline tax. They would raise that immediately to forty three cents, well immediately in January, first of the year. they would raise that immediately to 43 cents, well immediately in January, first of the year, and that would raise another 150 million dollars a year. Queen Kotech also wants to hike title and registration fees that you pay. Now the registration fee that we already pay, which they already raised, didn't they raise that a year or two ago from what I recall? I haven't re-registered any vehicles lately. I think in September I'm going to. But registration fees would increase by $42 and title fees. You want to get a title

to your car. You know the title is that piece of paper that technically you own the car but no the title has to be kept with the state so who really owns it but I digress. That's a conspiracy theory Thursday deal. But the title fees would go up. The titling fee in Oregon would go up. Just the title to have the car in Oregon would go up $139. Just the title cost, just that. So you can have the junkiest piece of garbage car, and to get it titled in the state of Oregon would cost another $139 on top of whatever we've been paying right now. What is it, 50, 60 bucks maybe? Wow. Now electric vehicles,

which currently do not pay gasoline taxes, would be required to pay an additional 30 bucks on top of that. So they're, oh, so 30 dollars on top of the... Oh, I love this. Regular cars have to pay another 140 bucks or so. The electric bill would pay another 30. So I guess there is Queen Kotech still trying to protect them? I don't know. Maybe I'm misreading this request because remember nothing is in writing at this point. This is just what Governor Koteck was talking about

yesterday. So 140 bucks for regular people extra to title a vehicle in the state of Oregon and EV owners pay another 30 bucks. Now then, the other aspect that Queen Koteck is looking to have happen, she wants to double the payroll tax. Now the payroll tax. Now, the payroll tax that we pay in the state of Oregon, this is something that the state legislature foolishly did. This is a transportation tax. So anybody who works in the state of Oregon who has paid wages pays one-tenth of one percent.

So point one percent. It takes point one percent out out of workers paychecks and you're forced to support transit. It doesn't matter if you use it or not. You just have to pay to do it, okay? We've been doing this tax here for a few years. The transit agencies like RVTD, which by the way I'm gonna go over some of the shutdown, they're shutting down a lot of these routes in September. And this is because of federal grants getting pooled here because sanctuary city and sanctuary state,

that's part of it, but there's just other things, they're just having to cut back on this. Transit wanted people to increase the tax five times. So they wanted it to be a half a percent. So everybody having to work, you know, four or five hours a year to pay for the transit tax for the bombs, I guess. Democrats wouldn't do that. So now they're talking about just doubling it. They just want to double it, not quintuple it then. Now then, this is also interesting too, and as as irritated as I've been at how

politically favored electric vehicles have been, this one bugs me. TINACOTEC would require the drivers of electric vehicles and hybrids to enroll in the state's OREGO program. This is the chip tracking system, and it charges you for the miles driven. Now, I don't it charges you for the miles driven. Now I don't mind being charged for the miles driven, but they consider this necessary for paying for road projects as the EVs continue to gain popularity and gas tax revenue is expected to decline. So they would then take the electric vehicles.

If you drive an electric vehicle, you would have to confess to the governor everywhere you go. This is something which is tracked, this is what ORIGO is all about. And by the way, ORIGO, remember the chip that they want to put in the cars, ORIGO, this is about ultimately giving Queen Kotec and also your local governments then the power to charge you more to go certain areas at certain times of day. This is how they would end up doing, oh, okay, so normally we'll charge you maybe four or five cents a mile or whatever it might be to drive on the Oregon roads and then you would pay that, you would then pay that to the state of Oregon, right? Well if you want to drive into downtown, if you want to drive into downtown

Portland or you want to drive into downtown Medford or downtown Grants Pass, now I'm not saying that our cities would do this, but this is the whole deal about Orego. The whole deal is that they could raise it because it's a GPS chip that would track you and when you get into certain locales it would be able to know, oh okay you were in downtown Medford and you entered the climate friendly equitable community area downtown. I'm just giving you an example. So you enter the climate friendly equitable community boundaries in downtown Medford. You're downtown. you shouldn't be driving your car there.

Maybe instead of a nickel per mile, they'll charge you a dollar per mile. And this would be done to encourage you to not drive into downtown Medford or Portland. Now I'm using an extreme example, but that's why Queen Kotec not only wants to get electric vehicles into Oregon to chip the cars, but it will be ultimately used to condition you into accepting it for your regular gasoline-powered vehicles because the gas tax is not enough.

So that's one thing. Something else she wants to do. Queen Kotech also wants to require more frequent auditing of ODOT so lawmakers have better insight into the progress and cost of major road projects. Sure. And it would also eliminate existing language allowing for tolling on Portland area highways. So there we go. It's not a formal analysis, it's not a formal plan, but this is what she was telling everybody. This is what she wants to do. So how much do you want to pay to keep all those construction planners who aren't building any roads employed at ODOT? I don't know.

Like I said, there's a lot going on. 770-5633. That'll be coming up on Labor Day weekend when nobody is paying attention and something tells me that's exactly the way Tina Koteck wants it. What do you think? Hi, this is Bill. Good morning. Who's this? Welcome.

Hi, this is Diana from Shady Co. Hello, Diana. How are you doing this morning? Yes, you spelled it out perfectly about what CODOT would like to do. And what the state did was they combined transportation use with land use. So the Department of Land Conservation and Development, when it had partnered with ODOT to create an enrichment program to create those neighborhoods, you know, cut down on your vehicle use and all that kind of thing. So that's how we, they're coming up with our...

All right, do you think that... Now, here he is. This is what she wants to do. She's quite open about wanting to do it, Diana. Should the Republicans then deny quorum? Because that's the only power they have on this one if the Republicans show up, Queen Kotec is going to get her wish. What do you think? I think they should stay home because if they don't everything in there in the Republican platform if you go and read their state platform it's all telling them we're against sustainable development type projects. And they actually state that the Department of Bank Conservation and Development should be outlawed, should be aborted. I don't think they've ever

really tried to come up with a campaign to do exactly that and that's why we're in the situation we are now. At least if they stay away and deny Quorum and deny Queen Kotech the ability to do all that she's asking for right now, it would force a different kind of, some sort of a compromise to this one. But I'm with you on that. Thank you for the call. And I appreciate your analysis as always, Diana. Hi, good morning. This is Bill, Conspiracy Theory Thursday. Who's this? Hello. Hello. Hi, you're on. Who's this? Oh yeah, this is Gary. Hi Gary. What are you thinking? And I'm with Forrest for Oregon. If the Republicans were smart, they would say we're not coming to this quorum unless you lower taxes, gas taxes, 50 cents a gallon, to stimulate the economy and actually get more tax dollars

than fewer tax dollars. And the second thing they need to start demanding is Oregon selling their 10,000 square miles that they're holding and losing almost a billion dollars a year on through forest fires and total mismanagement, it's time to sell that land like it was supposed to be done 150 years ago. Are you speaking of the Elliott forest or are you talking about other land? Elliott forest and other land, yeah. Okay, all right. The state is holding on to somewhere close to 10,000 square miles. The federal government has 50,000 square miles that they're holding on to. And it's all burning in forest fires. Last year they had to spend 290 million in forest fires.

This is complete mismanagement. And the people were supposed to own that that land just like states in the East Coast do. Gary, there's one problem though is that they're not burning the forest. That is restoring the forest. Haven't you heard the propaganda? It's always restoring. It's never burning the forest. Just restoring. Forest fire good, chainsaw bad. Exactly. Exactly. See, you understand. Now you have, you got the message. Thank you for the call. 770KMED, I'll grab one more. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Hello? Can you hear me, Bill? Yeah, I sure can. Who's this? Well, this is Doug Bill, and I

think we should not go to this quorum. And if you're familiar with the recent reconstruction of Highway 62 coming into North Bedford into Highway 99, we've got 20-foot sidewalks eliminated a whole lane of traffic and it's backed up over the freeway. Now ODOT designed and did that and I think an 11th grader designed that project because it's the stupidest thing I've ever seen in my life. Now to be fair, and I want to be fair about Oregon Department of Transportation, this was due to the multimodal order coming from the state of Oregon that you had to, you know, expand the ability.

In other words, we don't have enough people pushing baby carriages by the Rogue Valley Mall, apparently. And so, and the surveys that ODOT did, or through their contractors perhaps did, they found out that they were just so stressed out, people were stressed out, walking on the narrow sidewalk next to all that traffic. And so the idea is that you widen that, traffic and so the idea is that you widen that, you put in the swide walk, you put the S on top of, you know, for a swide walk, a wide sidewalk there, and then people will feel more relaxed and they'll be more willing to push their baby carriages and walk. This is multimodal. This is the latest catch phrase. I just wanted to let you know that. That's the latest scam.

Yeah, well, how many people walk that little section of sidewalk from Highway 99 to the freeway? When I was talking to the contractor who was pouring the concrete on that big sidewalk, he says, this is the stupidest thing I've ever seen in my life, but I'm getting paid to pour concrete. And Oregon Department of Transportation wants more money to be able to backfill stupidity. So there we go. There it is. Thank you, Bill. All right. Appreciate the call. So there we go.

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advisor with the Heartland Institute, senior fellow at the National Center for Public Policy Research and is an adjunct scholar at the Competitive Enterprise Institute. And Dr. Cohen, it is a pleasure having you back. Good morning, sir. Good morning. It's a pleasure to be back. All right. Tell us a little bit about what the United Nations, the world's highest court is up to

right now. I saw this news story break yesterday and it just... Yes. When it comes to the world's highest court, I think the question can be asked, how low can you go? In this particular instance, we're talking about something called the International Court of Justice, which as far as this court is concerned is something of an oxymoron. They recently released an opinion, a legal opinion, which stated that countries which are not living up to their climate commitments, that is, reducing their

use of fossil fuels, reducing their emissions of man-made greenhouse gases are subject to violating international law. And it is obviously the hope of the people who drew up this thing that this will then persuade countries to reverse themselves and start living up to their commitments. Well, in truth, the United States, of course, has gone in entirely different directions since January. Trump pulled the United States out of the 2015 Paris climate accord, so we're obligated to do absolutely nothing. And the other countries, the industrialized countries, this is Germany, France, Britain,

Japan, what have you, they've all made these solemn commitments. None of them, zero, not one, is living up to them. So what you really have here, I think, is a desperate effort on part of what we can call here the old guard, in this case the old green guard, seeing that the climate no longer has the pull that it once did. They're trying to resuscitate that. I think they will be spectacularly unsuccessful. I don't expect the Europeans to distance themselves from their commitments, but I don't expect the Europeans to live up to them either. They too, some of them anyway, are going in a different direction rather than embracing

wind and solar, which it did for decades. Britain recently approved a brand spanking new nuclear power plant. This tells me that somebody on that island has finally realized that you can't power a full-time society on part-time energy. So I think this is an effort. The court's ruling and the tremendous amount of press it got. This is a reflection of a recognition on their part that the sun is beginning to set on their agenda. Dr. Cohen, I couldn't help but wonder if this international court ruling was more about, I don't know, maybe blowing some wind into the sails of the climate children kind of

lawsuits, which have been struck down but you know left-wing activists still continue to push here in the United States certainly in the state of Oregon these kind of lawsuits are quite encouraged in which in other words children are crying about their future hence we have to shred everything about Western society you know those lawsuits are familiar with that. The one thing that could possibly result from this is exactly what the country doesn't need, more lawsuits. And in this case, a frivolous lawsuit, but one which will nevertheless tie up the court system for several years. There will be children's lawsuits because they will

then refer, well, according to the International Court of Justice, we are in violation of international law. So I can certainly see them using this as an excuse for bringing the suit, and there will be probably copycat suits in other predominantly blue states. Ultimately, I think these suits will go nowhere, but there'll be a little pocket change for the lawyers who take this on, and more importantly, they'll keep the issue alive and they'll tie up the court system. Other than that, I don't really expect anything to come from this. I know that there is a group that is looking to get a ballot measure, a citizen ballot

measure put on the election ballot maybe next year, maybe the year after that. Because the Oregon state legislature, even the most radical Democrats in the state of Oregon were not able to get a climate. In other words, you are guaranteed you have a constitutional right to get a climate, you know, in other words, you are guaranteed you have a constitutional right to the perfect climate, you know, as defined by leftists. Good luck with that. Well, seriously, they were trying to do this in the state legislature and it did not, even the most radicals, they were not able to get any traction.

Now they're talking about putting that into or before the voters in the next year or two, which would be quite interesting. I don't know how anybody is able to guarantee anybody a good, proper climate. Maybe I'm just wrong about that and I just don't understand the power. No, you're not wrong at all. Climate is chaotic. We have extensive droughts, we have floods, we have extremely cold snaps followed by extremely hot spells. That's the way the climate has always been. The universe is a chaotic place and planet Earth is part of that universe and everything that goes on here is chaotic. You can make certain forecasts but you always have to put an asterisk next to it because things can change and they can change quickly.

We've had 17 ice ages in the last two million years. That tells you that there is something called climate change, but it's not the one of the popular narrative, which is not as popular as it was only a few years ago. We've seen ice ages come and we've seen ice ages go. We're living in an interglacial period now, which means we're living between the last ice age and the next one. So enjoy it, because in six or seven thousand years, if you should live so long, this interglacial period will come to an

end and we'll be confronting gigantic sheets of ice that will move south from the North Pole. Dr. Cohen, is this the reason, what we're seeing under the international court and everything else that you've just been mentioning the last few minutes here, is this why I've seen or detected a shift in the narrative instead of climate change? I've now noticed people are referring to it as climate chaos, and you said climate is chaos or is chaotic then. But is this the reason why they've shifted this because people weren't buying climate change because knowing that the climate change is? And then I noticed even Senator Merkley even uses this. US Senator

Jeff Merkley talks about, you know, we're here to, we're going to do all of these programs, all of these initiatives in order to tamp down on climate chaos. Yeah, I think they have come to the realization that chaos is a more evocative word than change. Change, well, they're changes for the good and they're changes for the worse. But chaos is something that, well, we really don't want chaos. Well, sadly, you get chaos, but that's what Mother Nature has been serving up for the last four and a half billion years, which is how old the Earth is. So I do think you're right. I think this is an adjustment in vocabulary simply because they're recognizing the climate change just doesn't have the cachet that it used

to have. Remember, it replaced global warming, which became inconvenient when we had gigantic snowstorms. So they had to say, okay, we need to allow for that. So we'll just try climate change. They stuck with climate change for 30 or 40 years, and now climate chaos. Another variation on that, something that was very popular during the Biden administration, was to speak of the climate chaos. Another variation on that, something that was very popular during the Biden administration, was to speak of the climate crisis. The purpose of the exercise here is to scare us into doing things that are manifestly contrary to our own interests. International Court of Justice, they put out this opinion saying that countries that don't

fulfill the obligations to combat climate change, right? And like they automatically know, I mean, if you do A, B will occur, I guess that's what they're thinking. Does it have any real authority or is this just the virtue? They have no enforcement mechanism whatsoever. So the Trump administration's reaction to this goes without saying. They'll laugh at it and go about their business. Others won't. Others will not be as hard and as quick to reject it as the Trump administration, but

no one is really going to pay any attention to this other than the aforementioned plaintiffs who might try to take certain parties to court over this. Other than that, nothing, because as I said, this highfalutin international court of justice, it has absolutely no enforcement power whatsoever. Dr. Bonner R. Cohen once again, and another question I wanted to direct to you because you're also working with the Heartland Institute and other great institutions that are working for common sense here. Is there something to be said though for expanding our energy use beyond, let's say, oil. And when I say oil, I'm talking about the fracking system, because I've been looking at the availability that when it comes to oil, there's lots of it in the planet

still, but all the inexpensive stuff is all the low hanging fruit, so to speak, has been picked. And that we've had the fracking revolution revolution and that's been very, very helpful. No problem with that. And it's kept gas prices low. But the one thing we've noticed is that fracking oil fields tend to play out very quickly and you have to continue to drill lots or much more often and go in many different places. And I'm thinking over the long term, should we be looking to power our cars

with something other than maybe fracking oil and save the oil for the materials that we absolutely need it for, whether it's plastics and or fertilizer? You know what I'm getting at here? Yes, I think you always want to diversify your sources of energy. Don't become dependent on one thing, whether it's oil, natural gas, hydroelectric power.

Fortunately, the United States has historically diversified its sources of energy, and it's doing that again under the Trump administration, reversing the Biden administration's policies that wanted to make the nation dependent on renewable energy, mostly wind and solar, to the benefit, by the way, of the People's Republic of China. Yeah, you're just not, you're not going to run, you're not going to run a 24-7 society on that, you just can't. I wish you could. Be nice. But they're also taking a very positive attitude toward two other sources of energy. One is nuclear power, which I think is going to make a comeback in the United States. It won't be an exercise in instant gratification

because of all the permits you have to get and it takes a long time to build these facilities. But eight or nine years from now, I think you're going to see a lot of brand spanking new modern nuclear power stations go up around the country. Also keep an eye on something called geothermal. This is using the heat that is beneath our feet on the earth and you can convert that to power. It can heat homes, it can cool homes, it too can be converted to electricity. It's getting a second very long hard use and one of the interesting things about that, how do you extract that? Well, it turns out that you can use techniques that are very wide

used by those carrying out fracking. So you can frack for geothermal, in other words. That's right. It's very clean, and it turns out that we have the technology now to go even deeper down where there's even more heat. And I think you're going to see geothermal energy be taken very seriously. Energy Secretary Chris Wright, an MIT graduate fellow who knows a thing or two about energy, is very enthusiastic not only about fossil fuels, not only about nuclear, but also geothermal industry. So keep an eye on that. There's a lot of private investment in that.

Over a billion dollars have been put into it just over the last three years. Dr. Cohen, is there any hope for a revival of coal? Because I know that unlike the old coal plants which have been getting shut down around the country, modern coal plants built properly are actually amazingly clean, except for carbon dioxide, which I think is why the the leftists have been so pushing for declaring carbon dioxide a pollutant, that kind of thing. Any hope for the cold world? Yes, I think cold is going to get a lease on life. Many of the coal-fired power plants

around the country that were recently shuttered or were scheduled to be shut down are going to see their life expectancy extended for several more years at least. The reason being the tremendous demand for electricity resulting from artificial intelligence AI. These data centers that are shooting up around the country require enormous gobs of electricity 24, 7, 365. Well, coal can meet that need, and even the developers of data centers, many of which are Silicon Valley companies, ideologically no friend of coal, but they'll take what they can get. So I do think that there will be a limited

renaissance of coal in the country. Whether someone is actually going to build a new coal-fired power plant, that could be a stretch, but I don't entirely rule it out. But many coal-fired plants scheduled for shutting down are going to be, see their life expectancy, I think extended. And they're also going to be updated so that they can burn even cleaner than they do now. All right, very good. Dr. Bonner Cohen, once again, senior policy analyst, Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow, and you concentrate on energy and natural resources and various international issues here, too. We appreciate the analysis. I'm also going to put your statement out about this particular deal. So don't sweat the International Court ruling from yesterday, right? Just for show at the moment, bottom line. That's right. Sleep well. Nothing to see there.

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Scott, you wanted to weigh in on what Dr. Cohen was talking about in bringing up a past invention. Go ahead. Yeah, well Dr. Stanley Myers, people look him up, I assume the videos are still on YouTube, but he had developed a car that ran on hydrogen and the actuality, you put water in the tank and when the water heads to the combustion chamber, he actually had a device that he created that would turn it into hydrogen as it went into the chamber so he didn't have to store it. Now if our government and the powers that be really wanted to not control us and just

give us more freedom, they would say, hey, let's do this. We don't need wires. We all have a generator at our home that ran our home, and the cars would run on water, and there would be a game changer just like AI is, and you don't need to drill for oil except for your plastics and those kinds of things. Like you said, it would change the game. What happened then to Stanley Meyer's invention if he supposedly had this? Because if it were to work, now I just think, you know, going back to my, I'm not really familiar with this, it sounds like it's another one of those perpetual motion kind of machines, maybe too good to be true because the bond between hydrogen, you know, the hydrogen and oxygen in water is quite strong

and usually takes some energy to separate the hydrogen from it. Not that much for what you're doing for a car, but as far as what happened... Okay, well all I'm saying is that if it was a viable invention and actually worked and It was probably something we could all build ourselves, right? That kind of thing? Well, yeah, it takes a little engineering though to do it the way he did it. Was it a catalyst that he used? What was the process that he used to actually split the hydrogen away from it? From the oxygen. Well, you can use electricity to split the

high, but you don't need that much to do it when you're just having it go into your car like he did. That doesn't make energy and physics sense to me. I'd need to see a proof of concept of that. I'll see if I can find those videos for you Senator, they're not very long. Because I know that you can take energy right now, you can take a battery and take a couple of electrodes, put it in a little bit of water, and you'll have electrolysis going in there right now. You'll have oxygen coming off of one electrode and hydrogen coming off of the other one. But that's a slow process and it takes a lot of energy to get any appreciable amount. If you're building up a whole bunch of it to store it, yes.

But if you're, I mean you can use solar energy to do that from a solar panel and make that work. I've got a hydrogen generator. Okay. You know, they're not that hard to make. Yeah, but the energy needed to move a vehicle at speed though is more significant than... Well, let me answer your other question. Stanley Myers was murdered having lunch with investors and he drank something that was

on the table there and went outside and he was dead the next day. Ah, so there we go. There's the conspiracy theory. In other words, if he found a way to do it and to break the otherwise known laws of physics and chemistry and energy, then he had to be dealt with in your view, right? Well, what happens to people that... I mean, there are so many examples of people that come up with things and they don't live very long. I mean, when I was a teenager, there was a guy up in Washington that had figured out how to make cars get a whole lot more miles per gallon. He was a young guy, but he figured it out. He had an investor. And one morning they went

to his house and he was dead. He was a young guy. In other words, he committed suicide like Epstein did, right? Yeah, right. Okay. Scott, appreciate the story. I'm going to have to look more into that. I would kind of have to see a little more of the science behind it.

It doesn't make sense to me just from what I know, but I'm not a scientist, but I've studied a lot of science, and I'm not a scientist but I've studied a lot of science and I'm just thinking about the conservation of energy, you know, splitting hydrogen away from it. I appreciate the call. Maybe we'll pick that up a little bit later, okay? We'll have town hall news coming up here in just a moment. Dr. Jane Orient MD is going to switch topics on me a little bit and has to do with how many people are getting killed in order to get their organs. Big article out in New York Times did a study it's a bit chilling we'll get her take on it. Oregon Trunk and Auto Authority is your