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Yep, hey, Bill. Vice President of Legal Affairs. Yep. Vice President. There we go. VP, we got you in here. Hey, Mike, wanted to pick your legal brain about a couple of stories here, which have been lighting up the headlines, of course, and this has to do with the Russia-Gate conspiracy allegations, Russia, Russia, and the more information that tends to come out of Tulsi Gabbard and the DNI, the worst it tends to look for the establishment of a few years ago, okay? I think we can pretty much agree that there are receipts here.

and you have a piece out on Washington Times that came out. I think it came out yesterday, and you are warning against the appointment of a special counsel. Is there a difference between a special counsel and a special prosecutor, first off, before we go into this? Please help us out. What I'm talking about with the special counsel is an individual designated by the attorney general to solely investigate this issue with multi-jurisdictional authority. about Jack Smith. In the context, there's no such thing as an independent council anymore like Ken Starr, because that independent council statute has lapsed. It already was subject to a sunset provision in its laps. But the appointment of an individual with multi-jurisdictional authority

to conduct a wide-ranging investigation, I'm against that. And for the reasons, there's just a number of reasons. I think we probably talked about this a lot last year with the appointment of Jack Smith. This was the individual who was investigating and investigating investigating and prosecuting Donald Trump in Washington, D.C. and in Florida in those two jurisdictions, and he had this wide-ranging authority, simply because, look, the Attorney General doesn't have the authority to do this. The Attorney General doesn't have a statutory legal authority conferred by Congress to appoint this individual to serve outside of the supervisory control of the Department of Justice and investigate whatever they're assigned to investigate, whatever, respectively.

And so think about this. Jack Smith was appointed by Merrick Garvey. Ireland to conduct this wide-ranging investigation, brought prosecutions in multiple jurisdictions. And he was functioning as a super U.S. attorney, for example. And a U.S. attorney, beyond the powers of a U.S. attorney, U.S. attorney can only investigate and indict and prosecute individuals within their respective jurisdictions. Jack Smith was doing it in multiple jurisdiction. He wasn't subject to confirmation by the Senate. He wasn't subject to impeachment by the House of Representatives, nor removal by the both houses

of Congress. Boy, he really had a sanctified legal statement. status there, didn't he? Yeah, exactly. It's illegal, and it's also extra constitutional. The Appointments Clause of the Constitution doesn't vest the power to convey this kind of, doesn't vest the authority to convey this kind of power on any individual who's outside the auspices of the executive branch. And so it's illegal, it's unconstitutional. Also, it's bad from a, from a political perspective, too. There's really no need to do this at this point, because as you know, how special councils, independent councils were originally justified was, well, somebody who's outside the

administration needs to investigate the administration. We can't have our Department of Justice investigating Department of Justice officials or the President of the United States because they're the lawyers for the president. Now, wasn't that, didn't that really first come about during the Watergate hearings, if I recall? Exactly. Okay. Exactly. The Independent Council statute was passed after Watergate was because, you know, a good idea at the time, and of course it morphed into just something that just became this monster that was extra constitutional to begin with, and never really functioned as it was ever intended. And furthermore, when you think about this, these individuals, again, where do these investigations ever go? They're really politically, they're kind of fraught with all kinds

of problems. And one other interesting thing here, Bill, and this is kind of a neat twist on this, a neat nugget. We know that the grand jury that's, well, reports are that the grand jury that's been in paneled is down in Florida because of the Mar-a-Lago connection here, that there was that the raid on Mara Lago was part of this overall conspiracy. So there's a touch point for jurisdiction down in Florida. Interestingly, the judge last year in the Trump, in one of the Trump documents, the Mara Lago case, the judge that was presiding there in this courtroom, just set aside, determined that filed a ruling, submitted a ruling, that Jack Smith appointment, the special counsel who was appointed by Merrick Garland, was actually illegal and unconstitutional. So interestingly,

it's almost, it's her courtroom that this grand jury will be impaneled in. So that leads me to the conclusion that I don't see the attorney general Pam Bondi appointing a special counsel in this case because, essentially, that special counsel would be working in the exact same courtroom of a judge who last year found that a special counsel was illegal and improper and unconstitutional. So that's kind of an interesting little nugget here, a little factor to consider when we're talking about the propriety of a special counsel in this context. Is there any case to be made that the special counsel type appointment also ends up being where something goes to die, or is that not the case in this particular Russia-gates scandal?

Yeah, I think it's kind of been devalued so much. It's almost one of those things, you know, everybody, the traditional DC establishment, I think those were a couple senators who were calling for this. They kind of represent that. They kind of run home to mama whenever they see scandal, they go scandal, and then automatically their brain goes, oh, independent. to counsel, special counsel, we need somebody to investigate this. And I think you're right. I think it's kind of just, it doesn't represent a legitimate, it doesn't ensure that this is going to get the intention that's necessary. And look, let's rest assured on this. The good news is this is Department of Justice has designated a task force for this. There's a prosecutor who's going

to be presenting evidence in front of a grand jury. This is how it should be, this is how it should process, the normal process within the Department of Justice to investigate crime. That That's what the Department of Justice and U.S. attorneys are tasked with doing, and that's exactly what they're doing. Is the crime that you see that may have been committed? Is it more about a criminal conspiracy, or is it more? Because, you know, you hear people toss, well, I know even Tulsi Gabbard talked about treason, but treason is, there's pretty high bar for that almost. And I don't think anybody ever gets prosecuted for treason any longer, do they? Yeah, that's interesting what crimes we're talking about. I think we can start with perjury. I mean, perjury is certainly something that would be on the docket, and that's a very serious crime.

Now, wouldn't that be something Brennan was guilty of when he was testified before Congress? That's the first thing you go to is the extent to which these individuals have been, have testified under oath and have lied. And there's significant evidence on the record that indicates some significant criminal exposure for certain individuals, particularly with perjury. And again, keep in mind when you're having, when you're impaling a grand jury, what happens when you go in front of that grand jury is you have to take an oath that you're going to tell the truth, and if you're going to lie to the grand jury to cover up anything, that, again, continues on the, the, the, the, uh, the process. So, yeah, certainly I start with perjury and I think you work up for their conspiracy, criminal conspiracy. I think the extent to which that the individuals weaponized, that lied with, with the FISA warrants, I think that that's certainly something you can talk about. If you're, if you're using ginned up evidence that

you know has no value and you're certifying that that, that evidence is, is, is enough to ensure probable cause for obtaining a FISA warrant. I think that's another, that's certainly exposure. If you're doing that under the directive of somebody, for example, the Steele dossier served as the basis for these FISA warrants when they were going to wiretap Donald Trump. Yeah, it was a lie, right? Yeah, a lie. It was what, fruit

of a, don't they call that fruit of the legal poison a tree or something like that? It's called, well, so the fruit of the poisonous tree doctrine is if evidence is obtained illegally, so it can't be introduced to impure you or to convict you in a court of law. So,

Yeah, certainly. If you're basing your search warrant or your FISA warrant on something that you know to be a lie, that can't the warrant, and therefore any evidence that you derive from that warrant, from that search warrant or that wiretap is no longer is no longer valid in a court of law. That's true of the poisonous trade. But yeah, absolutely. But again, if you have if you have individuals who've been directed to lie and they knowingly, oh, I'm signing this FISA warrant, this FISA application, knowing that this evidence is concocted, well, I'm just doing what I was told, whomever told me to do this, then certainly that that indicates, again, lies, perjury, conspiracy, et cetera, et cetera. And again, I think people talk about statute of limitations. I think that there's indications that this is something that's been going on for years and years, and that that would toll the statute of limitations, so all of this stuff is applicable. Okay, all right.

Mike O'Neill once again, landmark legal. Mike, I wanted to touch in here. Who do you believe is most vulnerable? And I know people have talked about President Obama being involved. I don't think there's any appetite to be dragging Obama much through a legal graveyard. I could be wrong about that. But, you know, who knows? What do you think, honestly, is illegal legal here?

Who, as you said, I think certain Brennan Clapper, I think those individuals who are actually executing some of this, who've gone on record and continue, incidentally continue to talk about this. in the public forum. If I were any of these individuals, I don't know if it's arrogance or what, but I certainly would be quiet and stop talking about this, and yet they continue to talk about it. I think really, I mean, honestly, Hillary Clinton, I know, I know it's, I sound like one of those, oh, those conspiracy guys. Yeah, lock her up, right? Lock her up, right? That kind of thing. Look, let's start, it really started with Hillary Clinton. I mean, this is back, this is an effort for her. This is when she, this is 2016. She had, she was facing some political exposure in the

context of Bernie Sanders represented a legitimate threat to her political future in the Democrat primary in 2016. You had her legal exposure with these unsecured servers that she had in her home in New York. You had all the documents that were on those servers that were erased. She was facing some serious legal exposure, and there's a legitimate case to be made that this concocting of this Russia collusion was an effort to detract and distract from the legal pressures and political pressures that she was facing at the time. So I think that the initiation of this certainly started with that in that context. So, therefore, I think you want to certainly, I know I sound like it,

but I certainly think she has some exposure to that. All right. So if you were on the Clinton legal team, you'd be calling up some help. I would certainly, number one, be quiet, and number two, go get a serious lawyer to ensure that I have as much legal protection as is my right. All right. Well, I hope you're right, then, that they take your advice to not go to the special counsel. deal. And I hope you're right about this because...

I don't think they're going to. Yeah. Good. I think that it's clear that... I think they're not going to. I think it's just incidentally really quickly. If they did go this way, if they did appoint a special counsel on there are any indictment, all that would be litigated. The providing legal legality and constitutionality and the special counsel will be litigated all the way after the Supreme Court, which would slow the process. I think that the Trump administration is aware of that. All right. Very good.

Mike O'Neill once again from LandmarkLeague, Landmark Legal Foundation, Landmarkleagel.org. I really appreciate the take. Mike, I wish you a good day, and we'll have you back when we have something else tickling our legal fancy. Okay, thank you. Absolutely, Bill. Talk to you soon. Take care. All right. Take care now. 727, and this is KMED, KBXG on the Bill Meyer show. Stephen Westfall roofing is growing. Now proudly serving Brookings, Gold Beach, and the entire Southern Oregon Coast. They specialize in metal roofing, architectural shingles rated for high winds and impact, and classic tile roofing, delivering durable, energy-efficient solutions for homes and businesses. 18 years of trusted experience, they're licensed, bonded, and insured for your peace of mind.

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They had a workshop session the other day and about, well, discussion ended up going to hiring more people. And I just know that just me as a regular Joe, I'm just kind of thinking, oh, boy, do you really want to add to the payrolls right now? I know cities are growing and services are growing too. But anyway, I wanted to talk about this with Victoria Marshall, and she is the president of the Grants Pass City Council. Victoria, thanks for taking a few minutes. How are you doing? Oh, sure. Well, thanks, Bill.

All right. So the other day, a workshop, and there's some conversation going on, I saw the story in the Daily Courier, and is kind of intrigued by this. And it's talking about the Grants Pass City Council wanting to try a potentially risky strategy. That's how it was portrayed in the Daily Courier story, of hiring more police officers and firefighters without raising fees or taxes. to cover the added cost. And, of course, without raising fees in Texas, hey, that sounds great. I don't think you get anybody arguing about that.

But what is the overall kind of tenor? What was driving that conversation in that workshop? You being the president. Okay. So the risk that we are taking is to reduce our contingency in order to fund phase in of hiring more police and fire. And what we are going to do is, I don't think it is as risky as it might sound. Okay. So we would take our contingency down from, say, 25% to 20%, and that

would enable us to free up money to phase in the hiring of, let's say, to begin with. Don't quote me on the number. It could end up being a little bit different, but three fire and three police. Three fire, three police. Okay. All right. Now, you know, and then to phase up to what we actually need in the long term, which would be up to six, I believe. Okay. What is, I would imagine what, a typical police officer, a total compensation with purrs and everything else, what, 110, $120,000 a year probably? that kind of thing? Is that, I don't know if the...

That's a good ballpark. Yeah, ballpark. Firefighters usually a little more expensive, if I recall correctly, in most places. But, you know, very pricey. Are we seeing the need for service in Grants Pass? And what might be driving that? Do we know off the top of your head? We are absolutely seeing the need.

I can give you one data point that are reactive. versus proactive calls to the police. In, say, let's look at 2020, there were 25 plus thousand proactive calls. In 2024, there were a little over 14,000. And so that data point tells us that our police, while they are reacting amazingly well to protect our community, they are not able to get to the proactive calls. And so we must hire our police. It has been something that we've needed to do for a very long time, at least a decade.

Okay. What role do you think the continued homelessness crisis is playing in the need for these particular increases? If any. I would say that that is, I would say it's a major factor in driving, in driving this. But that, I would say that that is something that is just the status quo for the state of Oregon, not necessarily just for our police force. They do an amazing job dealing with the extra calls due to the homelessness crisis. but it's definitely a factor.

But if it were taken away tomorrow, we would still need the extra police and fire to level up to what we need. So maybe just kind of anticipating what you might be asking is if the homelessness crisis were to go away, would we still need to hire more police than fire? And I believe the answer is yes. Okay, maybe not quite as many are.

when it comes to the firefighter are we actually getting lots of fire calls or are we getting medical calls you know we are we have a medic zero um a level that is higher than our police than our fire chief wants it to be and um so absolutely it's across the board so it's all it's emergency services. It's fire. I don't have in front of me those exact numbers right now. But we do have significant overtime that is happening with our fire department. Well, the overtime would tend to be very expensive if enough overtime ends up going in there. And pretty soon you're, you're blowing past full-time equivalent salaries, really, if you're doing a lot of overtime. We absolutely are. And so we will save. Even though we want to hire the police, we're going to save thousands or thousands of

dollars. I don't remember the exact figure. But, oh, well, actually, I found it right here. It's about, it's nearly $300,000. Okay. So it's significant. Well, I was just, like I said, I always, I wince, I wince anytime I see city counselors of any stripe, whether it's Grants Pass, Medford, Ashland, whatever, say, well, we need to roll the dice here. And, you know, when I'm looking at... Yeah, I don't think the wording here, the wording of risk, I think we might not put the same definition of risk on there. We're just looking at a way to fund what we know we need without raising taxes or fees. And we think we found a way to do that.

At least we are looking into it, and we will have staff come back to us and let us know how we can do that with lowering the contingency. Well, that's good. So you're talking about lowering contingency, and now does the contingency build up? I don't know how the council funding works, and I'm sorry if I'm sounding a little ignorant when I ask this, but I figure if you have a 20% contingency fund, is that something which is allowed to grow year after year, or is it something where you keep it at kind of a certain percentage of the city budget, you know, that kind of the savings account? We do keep it at a certain percentage, and it's a number that can help with a bond rating for the city. So it's a very important number, and so this is something that we have asked staff to look into and come back to us.

What is this going to do for the city's overall credit rating, and what will we be able to do and hire? But, you know, we as a council when we were elected, the new council members, that was one thing that we told the public that we would do. We would make sure to prioritize police and fire. And so it's really just us also trying to. And the other counselors, I don't want to say that I think the entire council understands that fire and police is a vital importance and that we need to scale up. Okay. I appreciate you coming on and sharing a few thoughts about it because what had concerned

me a bit was, you know, we already know that there are stresses and strains on all cities and counties. And I'm even reading how the state of Oregon is going to be losing about a half billion in federal funding, which means fewer grants and, you know, cities have required have been living on a lot of grant stream funding for a while. And I already know that besides the homelessness issue that you're struggling with in grants, as like every other locality, you have the water plant, the water plant issue, which ended up losing its funding.

Now, I don't know if, do you have that all figured out at this point in time? No, we don't have it figured out. But one, I can give you one piece of information that losing, don't quote me on any actual numbers here. But I know that... Yeah, we're talking broad generalities. I understand. Okay. All right. Yes, yes. But losing that grant actually brought down costs in another part of the monies that are going to be needed for the water treatment plant. Because as people know, grants come with provisos. Oh, yeah. Big strings. Yes. But we are very concerned, having said that, though. We're very concerned, and definitely the city will come back to council saying this is what lowering the contingency might do to help or not help the bond rating for finishing the water treatment plant and all other.

aspects of the city budget, too. So it's something that we're looking at. It's something that we know we need. And hopefully we have found a fix that is going to get us some more fire and police, not in danger the new water treatment plant, and just use money that is actually there, but we keep so that we can grow the budget and carry it over to the next year and in the form of lowering the contingency. All right.

And I'm new to this, too, this year. So, you know, I might not be saying everything exactly correctly, but I think I've gotten the overall, the overall. That's always looking for a Victoria. It's kind of the 50,000-foot-level, you know, view of what you're dealing with. So it's not going to be like, hey, you said it was 50,000. It was actually 52,000 or whatever. No, we're not going to do that, you know, at this point.

But I'm glad to know because, you know, I'm just looking at, at government funding everywhere, and especially in a state of Oregon, which they continue to pile all sorts of regulations on you. And a lot of it unfunded mandates, too, right? And so I absolutely. And I just get worried about that. And if you think you guys got all figured out, that's great. That's great. And it's not just being done. Well, we're looking into, and we hope we do, yeah. All right. Victoria, thank you so much for the update. Appreciate that. All right. Oh, I appreciate it. I appreciate it, too. Thanks so much. And keep us in the room on this one on KMED and 993 KBXG.

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And the criminal investigation being conducted by the U.S. Attorney's Office in Maryland, mortgage fraud. And it comes a month after a story broke that the FF, the FHFA, Federal Housing Finance Agency, sending a criminal referral to the DOJ, and they're accusing Senator Schiff, of falsifying bank documents and property records to get more favorable loan terms. I guess what happened is that in 2011, there was an affidavit signed by, at that time, he was Congressmanship, certifying that a property in Montgomery County, Maryland was his primary home. This is very important. You get a better deal on it.

Sometimes you get lower property tax rates. There's all sorts of things, whatever's your primary residence, depending on what your state laws are. right? Now, he also owns a condo in Burbank, Burbank, California, which he has also claimed as his primary residence. He did that during his campaign for Senate. So how can you have two primary residents? I don't know, but that's what they're going to figure out. I would be curious, and I wonder if you would be curious, too, could you see, would you wonder then, maybe I'll just put it this way. Not just wanting to cast aspersions, but

could you see other ones like maybe Senator Merkley doing something like this? I wonder how many homes that he has. Senator Wyden now, I know Wyden used to we used to call him our New York Senator, but apparently I guess

that, you know, actually living in your district all the time is not really required. I wish it were, but you know, it's not, but I'm kind of wondering about Merckley and all the rest of them. Hmm. But anyway, I thought that's pretty interesting. We'll see what happens for with shift for brains, something to watch out for. And I want to give some emails of the day, too, for that matter. Emails of the day are sponsored by Central Point Family Dentistry. And Dr. Nelson, Central Pointeastern Restaurant in Central Point. Well-established practice. In fact, you don't even have to take my word for it, though. I've really enjoyed my experience there. Lots of positive reviews from all over the community. try them. And what I really like about Central Point Family Dentistry, they'll provide the dental care, how you have always expected it to be. Good. Good. And as pain free as possible, I like that

aspect of it too. Nothing about total pain, wuss, but I hate needles. Can't help it, all right? I do give an email. I think this is to, let me see, I think this is to Randy and Ashland. Randy and Ashland is writing me about the Rushagate thing. We've been talking a lot about that over the last few days. Bill, based on history, exposing the Russia Gate scandal, will turn out to be another disappointing nothing burger. I think no one's going to go to jail, and no one will be held accountable in any way. We were promised full details, including a client list from the Epstein investigation.

Then we were told there was nothing to see. I expect the same outcome from the current breathless uncovering of Obama and his minions framing Trump when DJT did nothing wrong. When it's all done, there will be a reason to dismiss the entire story, whether it's due to the statute of limitations or some other excuse this will amount to nothing. kabuki theater American politics style. Are the allegations based on real events? Absolutely. Randy continues, should Barack Obama be held accountable? Of course.

But he won't be. Just as Hillary Clinton faced no consequences for destroying thousands of subpoenaed secret documents, everyone involved with a spying on a sitting president. We'll skate Scott free with a possible exception of some low-level scapegoats who fall on their swords. Randy, you could be right, and I'm hoping you're not, but you could be. Now, Matt writes me from Grant's Pass. This one made me laugh last night. I'm going to have to edit a little bit about what Matt wrote, but he poses the question, does AI really work? I asked GROC last night how many U.S. presidents served in the military.

Presidents with military service. This is according to GROC. That's the AI on X. 31 presidents George Washington, James Monroe Andrew Jackson, William Henry Harrison John Tyler James K. Polk, Zachary Taylor,

blah blah blah. Okay, Lyndon B. Johnson, Richard Nixon. I'm skipping forward. Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton. They put Bill Clinton. Grock put Bill Clinton as a president who served

who served in the middle of military. All right. Yeah, well, what, the SS Lewinsky? The USS Lewinsky? The USS Lewinsky? Was that where this is true? This actually came from GROC, George W. Bush and Donald Trump. Now, Trump was Cadet Cappin at the New York Military Academy. And I just thought that was pretty interesting. Now, Matt then asked Grock, what about presidents without military service? Now, you can like this one. Without military service, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, John Quincy Adams, Martin Van Buren, let's see, Calvin Coolidge, Herbert Hoover, Franklin D. Roosevelt, Barack Obama, Grover, Cleveland, Joe Biden, and Kamala Harris, current president as of August 5th, 2025. Yikes.

And that was actually what Grock said, artificial intelligence. what could go wrong with such a system? Now, I know it's early in here. Speaking of which, gosh, somebody wrote me about that. Oh, yeah, Richard Corbyn writes me about AI teaching. Now, think about that situation, what Grock said about teachers, presidents without military service and naming Kamala Harris. But anyway, Richard says, hey, Bill, regarding AI wanting to be used to teach teachers who will, then program the AI computers and who will approve of the program used?

Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk, will not the program have to be approved by the state of Oregon? That is the liberals. It doesn't sound like a good idea to me. That's Richard Corbyn, who ended up writing that one out there. I appreciate the email. Mary Land writes, Bill, on the SOU budget woes we have been talking about, I'm curious to know whether the reason the university is receiving fewer funds than expected has anything to do with Trump's. Pardon me, Trump's denying sanctuary states of funding until they go back to being legal.

You know, there's a possibility. I don't know if there's any direct take on that right now, but I'm sure that there is some influence on it, but the amount of money that they are short, you know, five million, it's probably more than just what might be coming through government grants, Maryland, but that's something I'll have to. You know, I'll talk with Dr. Powers about that. Maybe we can do a little dig onto that one. Barbara Schlosser writes me this morning about denying quorum.

Bill, conservative media is criticizing Texas Democrats from walking out, and yet we want to encourage our Republicans to do the same. I'm confused. I know it's different, but they are saying that they need to stay and do their jobs. What say you? Oh, you know, I don't. blame you, Barbara, for being confused.

Because I have noticed that from the entire talk radio universe. In fact, it was Joe Pags. I was going through a Joe Pagg's show the other night. And Joe Bags, Joe Pags was talking about the Democrats being babies and running

away. I guess you're not doing your job or your babies for running away. It depends on Barbara, whose political ox is being gored. I think that must be the way it is, and

nobody is going to be intellectually honest about this. I am trying my best to be intellectually honest. Because for the Democrats, the Democrats, and this is something that we can be honest with one other about. When you look at what's going on in Texas,

what's happening is that you have a super majority. We have Republicans in the Texas legislature. Donald Trump wants them to read district because a bunch of illegals and probably a bunch of other people have ended up coming in population has gone up people are moving to what they think of as a freer states going a little more conservative and so they would like to redistrict it to get maybe up to additional five republican seats this could help in the midterm elections for next year so

this is deathly serious this is hardball politics all right hardball politics and Democrats will lose five seats Republicans would gain five seats is what they think might happen if this ends up going through. So naturally, Democrats and their constituents who voted for Democrats, they would look at this as an existential threat. And so they're going to the mat. They're doing whatever it takes to protect their constituents in this hardball politics. And that's perfectly fine with them. And then you have the Republicans, of course, playing hardball politics because they look at this existentially as control of Congress.

They're being babies. They're running away. And we want to get the FBI to find them and drag them in. Like I didn't realize we had a runaway slave or a fugitive slave law still in effect. And that a Republican or a Democrat could be hauled in by the FBI to go back home just so that the opposite party can then crush and dominate them. Like what happens here in the state of Oregon. So, yes, Republicans are talking out of both sides of their mouth when it comes to Texas,

and Democrats talk out of both sides of their mouth when it comes to what's going on here, given that Democrats have denied quorum in the past two, but they're the supermajority status right now. So we're just all a bunch of hypocritical liars on this issue, Barbara. And so that's why everyone is so darn confused about it because we can't admit that we live in a constitutional republic and the purpose of a constitutional republic. and the purpose of the quorum power in a Constitution, if a state has a quorum power in the Constitution, is that it's a parliamentary procedure that the minority party can use to protect itself against really serious attacks.

It's like your Hail Mary. This is something that you do. You don't want to do it all the time, but when you have serious stuff going on, you use that. And at least the Democrats will do that. They'll use that power in Texas. the majority of the Republicans here don't want to touch that because I guess

they want to be liked by the Democratic colleagues. I guess. I don't know how else to put it. But maybe they'll be, you know, maybe, maybe the Oregon Republicans, let's say that if Governor Kotech at some point comes up with what she would see is the final solution in which really deep

conservatives need to be relocated for their own safety to a particular camp, you know. and maybe we can call it Camp Republican Gaza, right? And then we would have to be relocated there. Maybe at that point you would have the Republicans decide to deny quorum to not permit that law to go into effect. They might. I don't know if Emily McIntyre would, but you know, Emily, you can talk about it with me anytime you want. Emily would probably still be saying, hey, these are my friends.

Oh, well. Oh, well. I imagine there's a little, and it's not just Emily, there's a lot of people. You know, well, we just can't upset the Democrats because, well, they have the power and, gosh, they might deny some funding for our district. And then people will write bad stories about me because I didn't bring money back because that's my job, not representing my people. It's to bring money. This is the Bill Myers Show.