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John Leake, author of Vaccines: Mythology, Ideology, and Reality. Good talk, partnered with Dr. Peter McCullogh on this. Open phones then Open For Business with Randal from Advanced Air.

The Bill Myers Show podcast is sponsored by Klausur drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausurrilling.com. John Leak joins me, and over the last couple of days, just got a copy of a book which is starting to make some noise here, and I've just started scratching the surface, and I wanted him to scratch the surface a little bit more. John Leak is author of vaccines, mythology, ideology, and reality. And, John, you've been working with Dr. Peter McCullough on this one. In fact, you've been working together for quite some time on these issues?

Yeah, we teamed up in 2021, and we both live in Dallas. I was approaching this from the angle of being a true crime author, including stories about organized crime and racketeering and corruption. Well, you know, when you're talking about investigating the vaccine world, of, you know, of the COVID time, maybe having been involved in organized crimes a good one? Well, yeah, I mean, you know, kind of this white coat, you know, laboratory white coat mafia, that's kind of a flippant way of putting it. But I think it's not such an exaggeration.

Look, I mean, since 1986 when vaccine makers got blanket liability protection for their products, It's been kind of the wild, wild west with vaccine development. And, you know, we started off with seven shots on the childhood schedule, and now we're up to, apparently, between infancy and the age of 18, the average American child may receive 72 shots. So, you know, it wasn't really a surprise that the schedule proliferated with the advent of liability protection. Well, because there were incredible financial incentives to do so, right? Because, you know, who else? Who else is required to have their product purchased, and they have no liability for it, too, at the same time? You've got to love that if you're in the business, right, John?

It's the best business model. That childhood scheduled business model was only surpassed by the, you know, bio-terror, bio-emerging infectious disease biodefense racket, which is, you know, an emerging infectious disease is coming. It's not a matter of if. It's just a matter of when. And by the way, if nature doesn't cooperate, we're making them in laboratories as well. One of those, you know, could escape.

I mean, the amazing thing about the autumn of 2019, and we go into this in our book, is that the World Health Organization and the World Bank issued a kind of warning to the world that there's an elevated risk of infectious diseases. We need to be more vigilant. We need to invest more. This was September of 2019, this pamphlet that was published. It's illustrated with an image of a coronavirus. And it expressly says the risk of a coronavirus respiratory.

illness breaking out, becoming pandemic, is elevated, and it could happen as a result of escape deliberate or accidental from a lab. This is September of 2019 in an official publication. So we go into this, the various evidence that in many ways, SARS-Co2, the causative agent of COVID-19 illness, well, first of all, it was obviously engineered in a laboratory through gain of function tinkering. But there was this huge structure of pandemic response that was erected with a focus on vaccine development. Bill Gates was a major investor in this in the years immediately running up to its release

from the Wuhan lab. So the whole thing raises the suspicion of just a gigantic criminal racket. And that it was either engineered to happen or allowed to happen? Is that kind of where you're going with is, John? Well, I mean, the paper trail, what we can say for sure from the documentary evidence is that Ralph Barrick at the University of North Carolina, he has been tinkering around with coronaviruses, recombinant coronaviruses. He has multiple patents on recombinant coroninant coronaviruses that he's been tinkering around with. We know for sure from his own grant proposals that he was working with Shangji Lee, the bat lady,

at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, and by his own papers, he's saying that we have taken SARS-Bat coronaviruses, which have demonstrated an ability to bind to the ACE2 receptor, and we've created chimeric viruses that will infect the human respiratory tract. In other words, it's not just bats. In vitro, they are infecting a respiratory tract of a humanized mice. So he states in his own papers, you know, we've done it. We have the agent. So, you know, for Anthony Fauci to say, well, there was no gain of function, well, it's kind of silly.

I mean, just read Professor Barrack's paper. He states that he's just – so we live in this weird world in which, you know, a lot of reality lies right under our noses, but it's being obscured and we're being distracted by our appalling mainstream media and our corrupt government. Well, I would dare say that the mainstream media was part and parcel of the deception, too. The book is from John Leak and Dr. Peter McCullough, vaccines, mythology, ideology, and reality. get a chance to talk about it for a few minutes, John. So we're going to kind of hit a high point because you say it's sort of an adventure. And what I like about this is that the stories that you do bring forward about the history of vaccines and what worked, what didn't, I think what's also very important is that you brought forth what didn't. And that part doesn't get talked about

a lot. And I'm wondering if you can bring up a little bit of that history because we are conditioned, In fact, even our medical people are a condition that vaccines are responsible for health. And the actual scientific record is spotty when you look at it critically. Would that be fair to say? Well, it is. And not only specific vaccines over the course of their development, but also a very salient fact that by the time you get to the introduction of the modern vaccines, schedule as we recognize it today. In 1948, the American Pediatric Academy of Pediatrics recommended diphtheria tetanus and pertussis for all American children. So that was the beginning

of the modern vaccine era. Well, if you look at just vital statistics published by the United States, you can see that in almost every single infectious disease annual mortality had already plummeted by more than 95% before the introduction of the modern vaccine schedule. And it's not, if you just know just a little bit of the history of the development of civilization, it's easy to understand why. Vaccines as a concept came about in the 18th and early to mid-19th century when living conditions, particularly for the urban poor and the rural poor as well, were just absolutely a appalling compared to what they are. Today, people, drinking water was contaminated with

sewage, people were catastrophically undernourished, either not enough calories or marked vitamin deficiencies, just not sufficient, you know, vital nutrients. They lived in appalling tenement housing that was inadequately heated. They breathed coal smoke. I mean, you look at the bronchial statistics on coal smoke. They called it London fog. It was kind of a funny euphemism. In London, all the way to the end of the 19th century, people live in appalling conditions. And what you see on the timeline, at the same time, these scientists are tinkering around in their laboratories, sewers are getting built. The steam engine has developed. The Haberman Method of creating nitrogen fertilizer, which enormously increased food productivity, refrigeration,

refrigeration, transport, pasteurization of milk. I mean, all of these developments are happening, call it end of the 19th, beginning of the 20th century. By the time you get to 1948, it's a completely different world, completely. No comparison, but what gets the credit for the reduction? of infectious disease mortality. It's not all of these marvelous elevations of living standards. It's vaccines. We're told that it's vaccines that are responsible for this.

And it's just not true. I'll tell you what vaccines have done with like measles, mumps, rebella. I'm glad you brought that up because MMR is the latest one. And it is the epidemic this year or the disease. which seems to be the one that is breathlessly reported right now, and they were talking about, I think this was it, was it New Mexico or Texas, I forget, which state? West Texas, one girl, a Mennonite girl, she had measles, as did her siblings. It was, she had a secondary bacterial pneumonia, which any doctor worth his salt is going to keep his eyes out for that.

The measles was actually resolving the rash was retreating. she got secondary bacterial pneumonia, and it wasn't treated. She went a whole week with no ding-dong doctor writing a prescription for erythromycin. It would have saved her life. Okay, so measles, in the decade prior to the introduction of the measles vaccine in 1963, so 62, excuse me, 52 to 62, that whole decade, the average annual measles mortality was around 400 cases per year. A lot of those kids were in ill health or immune compromise. So 400 annual cases of measles' death a year out of a nation of 160 million people. So measles in its virulence and its ability to kill children had reduced to less than one and a thousand case mortality rate.

But you would never know that from the reporting. You would believe that measles is a rampaging killer of children. Well, I remember that, of course, I'm just going off of memory, all right? So it's anecdotal. But I had measles when I was, I think, 13 maybe. Because I don't recall measles being on the childhood vaccine schedule back when I was a kid. the 1960s and 1970s. I only had a handful of shots that whole time. I think it was polio and smallpox, I think, and maybe a few others. There's just... When were you born? What year were you

born? 1961, John. You're born in 161. You probably did get a measles vaccine. Maybe you say you got measles? Yeah. Okay, well, maybe because you got measles, which does render lifelong immunity, the infection, maybe you didn't get the vaccine. Everybody, everybody got measles prior to 1963. Like, there were no child. Maybe I'm thinking of a different childhood disease then. Like I said, I'm just going off of memory, so I could be wrong. Okay.

All right. But I do recall, though, that it wasn't considered that big of a deal. Even when I was a kid, then when they were talking about it, you know, they would have, the parents would have measles parties. And they, in fact, it used to be a, I think there was a Brady Munch, a Brady Munch TV show episode in which everyone was getting measles. And no one was talking, no one was talking about the creeping death going through the school district. No, it wasn't a big deal. Like I said, for immune-compromised children, children who got secondary bacterial pneumonia that was not treated because of poor

doctoring. But look, I mean, during those years, call it the 1950s, I mean, at any given year, tens of, you know, 10 times, 20 times more children, you know, died of accidents, car accidents, this is before infant car seats, drownings. But the public's mind has been relentlessly focused on infectious disease mortality, blowing these things, you know, again, by the time you get to the childhood schedule, 1948, these things are being wildly blown out of proportion. Now, you go back to the 18th century for reasons that are not fully understood. Measles was a far more virulent illness back then. Far more. I mean, it could really kill kids with alarming speed. But then you're talking about

differences in nutrition, housing, food, and just general health and sanitation. Nutrition being probably the most important with measles. For example, vitamin A deficiency strongly correlates with severe measles, and the disease responds very quickly to the administration of vitamin A. The other thing that I think a lot of people don't stop to think about, and I'll just give you in an illustrative case, when the American soldiers were stationed in Cuba for the Spanish-American War in 1898. This was like Theodore Roosevelt's, you know, famous moment, or William Randolph Hearst, you know, yellow journalism reporting. There are about 50,000 servicemen stationed in Cuba for this conflict, and they were way, way more susceptible

to yellow fever than native Cubans. So I just give that as an illustration. case. Selective pressure is put on, natural selective pressure is put on a human population by these diseases. And over time, it's not just nutrition and improvements of sanitation and all of that. Over time, it just becomes a milder illness as the population becomes more resistance and builds up better immunity. In other words, children who are extremely vulnerable to these diseases in the 18th century, they would die and not pass their genes to their offspring. The hardy kids that survived it went on to have children. And so through that selective pressure, all of these illnesses are becoming milder as well.

I know that you're getting great reviews from many people, and I think this is probably selling well. It's vaccines, mythology, ideology, and reality. I know Dr. Naomi Wolf is a big fan of this one. I tend to respect her take on a lot of this here, John. What I'm curious about, because you talk about, you know, the good and the bad, you want to be kind of an honest broker on this. Are there any vaccines that you were aware of that just really knocked it out of the park and did well?

Or is it just all, everything that a farmer ever came up with is a bad deal? Anything? Could you maybe comment that in that direction? So, I mean, you know, let's give the devil it's do. I mean, a lot of these vaccines, measles, months, rebella, I mean, they have drastically reduced morbidity. That is just to say, case counts. Okay. They have.

I mean, I never had measles. I was immunized against it. I don't think it was, it's a big deal, but, I mean, I did have chicken pox. This is before the chicken pox vaccine. You know, I was at home and watched, you know, right, what was it, land of the lost for a few days? It didn't seem like a big deal. But, I mean, morbidity, case count has certainly been reduced by vaccines in a lot of these cases. This would be an academic debate at the moment, kind of quibbling over risk benefit.

I think were it not for the shocking rise of autism in this country? And if you look at that timeline, you know, you start to get this spiking autism in the late 80s. with the proliferation of vaccines on the schedule. That timeline alone is highly suspicious. It is suspicious. I know that RFK Jr., of course, has said that he's putting a lot of effort into actually digging into the cause of this. And I guess we're going to have some answers in September.

I don't know if we're going to get answers in September or not. But I don't think that there's ever been any dead-bang study that has said, Yes, definitely it is vaccines or mercury or thermoisol or anything else. No? No, there are instances where even the CDC has conceded. Oh, really? Yes. Okay, so I guess I was listening to the wrong people then.

Okay. Well, so, so, I mean, it's a whole chapter in the book, the autism omnibus proceeding, in which you had all of these parents who believe that their children had been neurologically injured from vaccines. So the outcome of the omnibus proceeding was that this special court said no, and none of the test cases we've reviewed, was a causality established. That was for the official proceedings. But the real skull duggery and intrigue in this is there were cases in which there was a clear causal link. They were taken out of the omnibus proceedings. And secret deals were made with them. It was, we'll pay you a ton of dough for his compensation for your injured child, but you need

to sign an NDA. Now, we know about this because of a celebrated case. Her name is Hanna polling, and we detailed this in the book. Hanna's dad was a neurologist at Johns Hopkins, and he actually wrote a paper about his daughter's case in the peer-reviewed literature. So he had the CDC dead to write, they said, oh, okay, Dr. Polling, could we, you know, we take you out of the omnibus proceedings, and we'll do a secret deal with you. They initially accepted that offer, but then when they realized all of the manipulation and skull dougarie that was going on in the omnibus, he then broke that silence and came out and spoke about it. And so that polling case, we think, is the kind of litmus test case, it's for real. The only question is, you know, how, how, what percentage

of children are vulnerable to this adverse reaction that causes neurological damage? Because not every child takes the same vaccine and gets a side effect like that, of autism, right? That's what you're looking at. You're talking about what's probably a relatively small percent, But the problem is, hey, if you're a member of that relatively small percent, it's a big deal. Yeah, I mean, so when we're talking about, you know, the estimate based on CDC numbers is that about 275,000 children have what's called profound autism. I mean, total disability, can't talk, can't be toilet trained, scream and yell and moan and bang their heads on the headboard, 24-hour care, for the rest of their lives, 275,000 children is the estimate. Well, I mean, that may be a small percentage of the population of 330 million, but that's still a lot of children. That's an enormous

burden. So put that in perspective, the worst year on record for polio, which terrified the entire nation, you know, 24-hour, well, not 24-hour, they didn't have 20-hour hour back, but constant news coverage of this monster polio. That year, there were 21,000 cases with paralytic polio of varying degrees of paralysis. A lot of it was transitory lameness. Only a very tiny percentage of that was like total paralysis iron lung. Okay, so 21,000 total, some degree of paralytic polio, a lot of it transitory lameness. Compare that to 275,000 children who require round-the-clock care for the rest of their lives. That'll put it into perspective. So profound autism is a catastrophe, and it needs to be thoroughly investigated. None of this stuff on television. Well, we don't know what causes

autism. We just know it's not vaccine. Well, you know, you almost can't, you almost wonder, and I know it's not conspiracy theory Thursday, John, but you wonder that if there are people who wanted to reduce the population or reduce family formation, everything which is happening, you know, right now in the United States, you couldn't probably come up with a better way of doing it than making people concerned about having kids. I don't know. Well, I mean, the whole thing, the celebration of homosexuality, which doesn't, you know, produce offspring, the transgender stuff. Which, of course, takes breeding out of the equation once you mutilate the bodies, right?

Yeah, and just nothing in popular culture celebrates a long-term, happy, mutually respectful bond between man and woman. And Sidney-Sweeney ad is considered Nazi ideology, right? Right, get all that silliness, right? One could be forgiven for perhaps over-interpreting that this cultural malaise in which we find ourselves is being propagated by people who just ate traditional middle-class families. I mean, it would seem that way. All right. Hey, John, I'd like to have you back at another time.

I'm going to finish the book. I'm going to read the book and get it all the way through it. I may have a few more questions for you, but I just wanted to touch in, since this is out, I wanted to touch on this. and it just came out, a hardcover, July 29th. So this is a pretty new one, and it's getting great reviews everywhere I look. And it's vaccines, mythology, ideology, and reality. And what is your substack, once again, that people should know about two? Because I'm...

I co-write it with Dr. Peter McCullough. It's called The Focal Points. The focal points. Yeah. Thefocalpoints.com. I appreciate your take on this, and I'm going to find out more. about this. Before I take off, one question I did have because I haven't gone through the whole book yet, okay? Do you go into how Japan ban the MMR for their kids, but yet we haven't touched it here?

Yes, we do. We talk about, you know, both Sweden and Japan, you know, having concerns about some of the vaccines on the schedule. The Japanese were concerned about MMR. The Swedes were concerned about diphtheria, pertussis, and tetanus. They took the whole cell pertustis vaccine out of the schedule. People will say, well, pertustis rates increased in Sweden. And, you know, my answer to that is, yeah, well, in 17 years, one child, well, three children died, two of whom were majorly immune compromised. So how dangerous is whooping cough when one child in 17 years? dies of it. Okay.

Point well, take it. John, we'll have you back, and thank you so much for the take on this, and like I said, it's making a lot of news. Vaccines, mythology, ideology, and reality.

And it is deeply footnoted, I wanted to say. There's a lot of documentation there at the back, so it's not just you shooting your mouth off. Okay? Correct.

All right. Appreciate it greatly. Thank you. All right. Good having you on. 20 before 9 on KMED. Hi, Zoe Saldana. Welcome to Team Mobile.

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Actually, I'm not sure who I. Who was I talking to at this point? Oh, it's Army. Army, you wanted to say why the Texas situation is not the same as what Oregon Republicans were trying to do. Go ahead. You know, the difference is that they're claiming, Texas is claiming, that these people accept it drives by accepting a private jet flight to wherever they were going to go. Well, Texas can say anything they want. I think it's crap, all right?

They can call it whatever they want, Army. I'm a fan of the principle of denial of quorum, no matter how you get out of town, okay? Yeah. And I think this is just an example in which Republicans will blather about. this because it's their ox being gourd if it doesn't happen if they don't get their redistricting just like democrats blather about their ox being gourd if if republicans don't stay here to be run over and do their job so i just can't i can't go with it okay that's all yeah well it's the old story about for the goose and the gander it's the same thing one way or another exactly now

do i want the democrats to win their redistricting deal with texas no but it is a parliamentary procedure and yet they're going to do everything they're practically being treated like runaway slaves fugitive slaves that are being uh you know we got a track down and round them up you know that kind of thing at least at least we're doing something on our end but the democrats do all the time uh yeah well i i wish that we would do that here in oregon matt good to have you on matt go ahead yeah so gerrymandering when i first moved at 31 years ago, I had a Republican as my representative on the federal level. And then in 2010, I got redistricted. Less than a mile away, they moved the line just to the other side of

the Applegate River. Yep. And I got stuck with DeFazio for 10 years. And then his margin of victory kept getting smaller and smaller because where I live is very conservative. And so they just went up, yeah, and they sliced it off. And then I ended up to flip then. You know, I honestly, think that I'm hoping that the time comes in which redistricting will no longer be, will no longer be political or politicized in any way. It won't be in charge by the legislature. I would almost just as soon, you know, having them just slice and dice the state up just equitably or not, no, just equally, not caring, right? Just where it is. You're in this, and there you are. And every year, every 10 years or so, we will shake the magic eight ball and we'll see where it goes.

Maybe it should be based upon, like, representation, as I've heard, and you've heard, Illinois, 43% voted for Trump. Yeah. He only gets 17% of the seats. Yep, exactly. Yeah, and both parties do this because it's just hardball politics. It's what they do. Let me grab, I think this is, is it Randy?

Hello, Randy. Where's it Todd? Hey, it's Todd. How you doing? Todd, go ahead. Sir right. Yes, sir. Yeah, well, yeah, gerrymandering. I mean, historically, both sides do it. Absolutely. Typically, Republicans redistrict and Democrats gerrymander. I remember one time back in 1990 in California, the press did a big thing with the Democrats, how they redistricted.

And the Democrat right in front of the camera said, this is our contribution to pop art. But the reason why I called, the one. gentleman called in about the 80th anniversary of the bombing of Hiroshima with the nuclear bomb. Yes. And, you know, it was horrible and everything, but my father-in-law was in the Navy and on Saipan. He knew he didn't know anything about the bomb being dropped. He just said he knew that he'd be in the first wave and that he was a dead man. He knew that he wasn't going to survive. He knew it was going to be mass casualty, putting boots on the ground of Japan. And so, you know, I can see it

from that perspective, but I just finished a book. It was an amazing book. I can't go into the whole thing, but it was by the guy who designed the attack on Pearl Harbor. On Pearl Harbor, you said? Yeah. Yes. And he was in Hiroshima the day before the bomb dropped. He was called away.

The bomb drops, he's told to go back in with a team of scientists to assess the bomb damage. Oh, so he was one of the atomic veterans like Glenn Arshambo's dad. Yeah. Well, no, this is the Japanese guy. He was the Japanese. Oh, Japanese guy. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Yeah, the Japanese Air Admiral. Everybody in his group dies of radiation poisoning except him. And his description of the dead and the dying, it was, I know, there's no good way to die in war being blown up by a grenade or shot with a bullet or, you know, burned to death or whatever. But his descriptions of that were absolutely chilling. And, but I'll just close with. this. He had an amazing life. He meets one of Doolittle's Raiders, converts to Christianity, becomes a missionary, tours with Billy Graham, and meets President Truman and President Eisenhower. This is the guy who designed the attack on Pearl Harbor. Amazing life story. Thank you for sharing that. All right. And I'll take one more call, and then we'll have to cut it

loose here until tomorrow on Conspiracy Theory Thursday. Hello, Randy. Go ahead. In 2017, and this date is very important, April of 2017, I was perusing the web and found none other than Tony Fauci standing next to Bill Gates at a podium. And Tony Fauci said, and I quote, President Trump will be faced with a pandemic in 2020. Predictive programming, huh? That's a smoking gun confession that he was behind the whole thing. Predictive program. And it's not even conspiracy things.

Theory Thursday, Randy. I appreciate the call. Well, it's not a conspiracy. I saw it right on... Well, no, I'm talking about the show, though. Normally, when we'll entertain this. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I get it. Point well taken. Randy, appreciate the call. Thank you for that. It's 11 before 9. Costly summer heat damage, terra firma foundation systems can help. As the summer heat dries out the soil around your home, it contracts or pulls away from or pushes against your home's foundation. This can put your Homes Foundation at risk of shifting, sinking, or cracking. These issues worsen over time,

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closer to 105 degrees here Sunday, Monday. At least that's what's forecasted. Big thing to remember about that is when it's that warm outside, expect some temperature creep indoors, meaning your system is designed for about a 20, 25 degrees split. So if it's 105 degrees outside, it's okay if your equipment is creeping up to about 80 degrees inside, unfortunately. Yeah, it doesn't mean that things are broken. You know, I must have been lucky, or maybe the old owner of my house overbought or oversized the HVAC,

because it could be 110 and I can still keep it at 72, 73 during a lot of that. Am I just lucky that way or what? Well, I mean, it might be a little bit oversized, but yeah, I mean, that's, it could also depend on the orientation of your house. Oh. Trees that are kind of shading some of the areas, how well you're insulating is up in the attic. And there's a number of variables that contribute toward the efficiency of your home and how well it can manage the heat load.

But, yeah, there's... Okay. Well, I will say, though, that I still freeze in the winter, or it's cold. the winter, but it seems to do better in the air conditioning side. That being said, though, are you having good deals here? I know it's the peak season right now, so maybe there's not as much, but let us know what's happening. Yeah, there's, there's been a lot of, a lot of things happening in our industry with the 454 refrigerant changeover. And so there's been new product that has come to market. And it's interesting because as that new product was coming to market,

It was coming in at a higher price. And we've seen that because of the competitive nature of the industry right now, some of the pricing on that equipment has dialed back a little bit. So it's not as aggressive as what we were afraid it was going to be when it was first coming to market. So that's a good thing. And then also on that side, some of the manufacturers and distributors have been really aggressive with rebates, keeping the manufacturer rebates eligible throughout summer, which has been really good. So there's up to $1,500 about in manufacturer rebates for high efficiency, qualifying equipment.

But then also Energy Trust of Oregon has a number of rebates available. Some of those are income, you know, influence. Some of them are energy efficient. You know, there's parameters on that. But, I mean, if you qualify for some of those ETO Energy Trust of Oregon rebates, I mean, it can be several thousand dollars in savings. Do you still have, or do they still have that rebate or the credit, which is available for, like, landlords with rentals and things, or is that up now? Yeah, no, there are some rental property rebates if you're changing up the heating and cooling system on a rental property. So, yeah, there's some good programs like that, and we can educate you on that.

Our sales staff is trained on those programs, and we can walk you through that process. I know that you are really good. You are a Brian dealer, factory authorized Brian dealer, which, of course, means that they really stand behind you if there would happen to be a problem with a unit, right? That's just one of those things. It's different when – I'll bet you you have people that say, hey, I bought an HVAC on Amazon, and now it's broken. Can you come fix it? Do you get those kind of calls? I can't help in wonder.

Yeah, we get those calls all the time. And unfortunately, we don't service owner-provided equipment. We only install and service equipment that we provide or that's provided by a local distributor because we can get it warrantied. Yeah, I mean, how can you guarantee Amazon junk, you know? Not that it's all junk, but you know what I'm getting at here. How can you do that? Well, yeah.

And equipment that's purchased on the secondary market, you don't know where it's been. You don't know why it was pulled out of some other location. There's no history on it. It was only dropped by the – It was only dropped by the forklift one time, right? Yeah. Yeah. So we have great distributors, and they stand behind us on all product that we install,

and that really does mean something. Sometimes saving a few hundred bucks up front can cost you thousands of dollars on the back end. It's not uncommon either for us to get calls from somebody who thought they were saving, you know, hundreds or even thousands of dollars, and then them calling us back later and saying, hey, this all has to be yarded out. We need to do this right. And unfortunately, that's a difficult, you know, conversation to have, but it does happen. Well, you are definitely the friend for folks here in Southern Oregon when you're looking to get your HVAC either service to replace, repaired, whatever.

And you do good work. I know that. The number 772-686-772-686, MyAdvancedair.com, and there are deals available even at this peak time of the year. Hey, we got about 90 seconds left on the segment here, Randall, and a couple of quick ones here. You always say, especially keep the fan running right now. And what about ductwork? Anything else about ductwork? I think you wanted to mention something about ductwork.

Yeah, just keep in mind that the duct system is separate from the equipment. On existing homes, a lot of times we're changing out equipment, and it's unrelated to the ductwork. And what's important to know about that is sometimes there's duct work issues that need. to be focused on and could be contributing towards system failure. So make sure when you're getting an analysis done on your home that a duct review is taking place. And if there's contributing factors to equipment failure, those modifications are included in your bid. Because sometimes we come in and we'll do an estimate for replacement equipment that doesn't include any duct work modification. and sometimes those duct work issues could be contributing to equipment failure.

Oh, yeah. Well, I can't tell you've told me about times in which you've gone to the homes, and rats have chewed up, rogons have chewed up the duct work. It's like, well, that's not going to work, is it? Just can't. Right. Yeah, you're not delivering. Yeah, you've got air distribution problems that are contributing toward the mechanical failure of your equipment.

So we can do an analysis on that. And it is different and costs additional to the equipment change out, but it is important to know there's a distinction between the duct work and the equipment.