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Episode Date: August 19, 2025

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The Bill Myers Show podcast is sponsored by Klausur Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausurrilling.com. And Scott's here from Grants Pass. Hey, Scott. How you doing? Hey, good morning. Hey, you brought up something about the Malheur since, you know, we haven't talked about Malheur in about eight, nine years here,

ever since that happened, that occupation and the death of Levoi Finnecom. But Max Bernstein's story, bringing up the, the award ceremonies that the FBI gave. They gave the hostage rescue team. They gave them all awards, all the people involved in this. Everybody got their award and participation trophy, but there was something that you remembered that I had forgotten. Please.

Yeah. When they were in court, it came out that approximately half of those people that were taken over that facility were actually FBI agents in Cognito. Huh. So the whole thing was set up. These people were set up, and they just drug it out. And the whole thing, again, just like the term that was used in your interview, it's showtime.

Yeah, performative art done by our law enforcement folks at the FBI. Okay. Yeah, they got nothing better to do but to set people up that are trying to do something good in fighting their government in a very peaceful way. Yeah, nothing changes, does it? You know, it's really interesting when you've heard these stories and people have told me that, well, you know, if you're ever doing a public meeting and there's someone there

that's talking about, hey, you know, we need to take arms and take arms against this and that, the other, and do this and that, and we need to show them we mean business, it's like, oh, that's the FBI agent, right, Scott? Yeah, that's almost what. Now, think about this. Remember the movie The Godfather? Yes.

Everybody kind of thinks that organized crime kind of went away after, you know, the back in the, what, 40s and 50s, you know, when they wiped out all these guys with the FBI. But there was a phrase in that movie where the leader there, he says, Michael Collione, he says, oh, next year we're all going to be legitimate. So where did these people go? They went into corporations, and they went into government, and they went into law enforcement. Interesting point to bring up. Thank you very much, Scott.

Good hearing from you, okay? All right, we'll break for Town Hall News here in just a moment. A palli cleanser then after then, where past meets present. We'll talk about some local history. and some of the other news here with Dr. Dennis Powers, a retired professor of law. And afternoons, maybe I can squeeze a caller to him before Dr. Power shows up, too. Rakey news this hour from Town Hall. I'm Rich Thomason.

Meeting up the rest of this week, 89 Tuesday, 91 on Wednesday, 97 Thursday. 10 minutes after 8, Dr. Dennis Powers is standing by. We'll have where past meets present coming up here after the Kim Commando digital update. David, though, you wanted to remind me of something else that kind of went down the memory hole. after the Malheur occupation, FBI just a few days ago, ended up giving big awards to all the people involved in that, which led to the death of LaVoy Finnecom, which has a lot of folks from the more tidy-righty side of things,

kind of upset from what I'm seeing. What are you thinking? Well, Bill, I'm not ideologically aligned with the people that took over that refuge, but I want to say this. I called Corey Falls on your program, and I asked him if he thought it was constitutional, shut down the town of the entire town of Burns, Oregon under martial law, because our sheriff's deputies went and participated in that. And Corey Falls' answer on your program was, basically, it doesn't matter because our sheriff's department had a mutual aid contract with that county. Yeah, but that wasn't the question that you had asked him. I remember that. Boy,

is a vague one. That's a long time ago. Eight, nine years ago, right? Well, people need to remember. I mean, you know, if you have your agencies participating in something because of some contract, and that their answer is, well, it doesn't really matter the legality of it because we got to be there for our buddies when they ask us for help. I mean, that's a pretty broad answer and could apply to a lot of situations. And I think maybe just that example, in fact, you know, the deputies that went over there probably are still serving. It wasn't that long ago. So next time you have our local sheriff on you need to ask him about, you know, what his feelings are on that, because Corey Falls flat out said, hey, it didn't really matter, essentially. Like, we had a contract

with them and they wanted our help shutting down that. They shut down that whole city under martial law. And that city, that little town, yeah, it's a little nowhere town, but that town was not participating in the shutdown of that refuge. They just happened to live there. And that was not right what happened to them. All right. David, thanks for the call. Always appreciate that. You'd be well. 17 after 8, Dr. Dennis Powers, retired professor of business law at Southern Oregon University. And it's where past meets present. You can find out more about the doctor, the good doctor, and all of his books. And I really enjoy them. It is Dennis Powers's book. books.com. Hello, Dr. Powers. It's great to have you back, Dennis. Morning.

It's always, Phil, a pleasure. I look forward to it, and we always learn something, and I am here to go wherever you want to go. Okay, well, I'll tell you. Why don't we start with the pallet cleanser first, and that's going to be the history, and then we'll break and then dig into maybe some of that news coverage that you saw with President Trump and then Vladimir Putin, and today it's going to be Zelensky, et cetera, et cetera. You know, we got all that. But let's talk about Celia's house in Holmes Park first. Why don't we do that? Sounds like a winner. And this is one of those stories that really stands out in terms of not only Southern Oregon, but also Oregon and nationally. We go back to Harry and David in terms

of the mail order operation that they had done. Brilliant, brilliant entrepreneurs, became one of the nation's largest ones, specialty mail order. I can remember Bill back east, you know, receiving my parents and I going over their booklet and then ordering Harry and David for Christmas presents in terms of what they had packaged. In any event, Harry then had met a wonderful woman. Her name was Elizabeth Hunter, and she was an executive, the J. Walter Thompson advertising company in Chicago, met her, married her. They decided they wanted to have a much larger home here in Medford. They purchased 20 acres that all of us have driven by on what's now South Modoc Road and near their Bear Creek Orchards. But you see, what happened

then, Bill, was that they hired a renowned, in terms of Southern California, African-American architect, Paul R. Williams. And the R. stands for Revere. Paul Revere Williams. Oh. He was, yeah, Paul Revere. And Bill, he was brilliant. He was a prodigy, orphaned at age four. He became a draftman. And by this time, he was designing a luxury. hotels, public schools, commercial buildings, Hollywood mansions, and he was known for his residential projects. And this was back in a time, this was back in the day when, you can figure that a lot of African Americans probably didn't have that opportunity like he did.

Not only in terms of opportunity, but in terms of just standing out above all, that was Paul R. Williams. And he had designed and was designing for Tyrone Power, Johnny Weissmuller, Lou Cheney, Carrie Grant. And although he wasn't licensed to practice in Oregon, he had a quick established collaboration, my friend, with Frank Clark, who was really our preeminent one. So he then, being Paul Williams, did an incredible design that was to show a prestigious city home in the country, had a grand entry with an elegant curved staircase, pavered driveway, you know, various manicured gardens, a swimming pool, which would be one of the first here. And it was an incredible 6,000 square foot mansion. We're looking at 19, actually 1940. And in other worlds,

it was magnificent. So what happens then is that Eleanor passed away after. World War II, Harry in 1959, their son John then sold the house bill on 1.7 acres, but then he was the one that donated the remaining 18 acres to the city of Medford, and that led to the creation of Medford Holmes Park. Very good. Now, when we're fast-forwarding, and this was an incredible story that I was very much where of the time due to some nonprofit boards I was on, the Holmes Park Hospice House was then starting to become a reality. And this is about 2010. And what happened was this hospice

unique boutique opened up their store on Ashland Street in Ashland. And they wanted to create a hospice house in Southern Oregon. And in any event, you know, the people involved did a masterful job. They raised over $4 million to transfer this wonderful estate into independent hospice care by mid-2018. So they have 12 beds, and they actually put on about a 4,800 square foot addition that's in there. then to give you an idea the brilliance of Paul Williams, and I really mean this, when you look over in the sites that I have and you look at some of the different projects that Paul Williams was involved in, the L.A. County Courthouse, the L.A. airport, was that he was given posthumously the gold medal for his more than 3,000 projects over his 50-year career. Frank Lloyd Wright was one of the few that also received this rare gold medal. Now, Silius House now is a full resident, you know, independent resident hospice house. It's

that full resident admission. But it's an incredible story of our area, and there's only two independent hospices in Oregon. And the key thing is that seeing this come to reality and the sacrifice that those were there was incredible. Bill, very quickly, my friend, the way it became Celia's house was because of two individuals. And these were Jed and Celia Meese. And they contributed so much money underneath the radar. They were wonderful people. They really were very community-oriented. they gave $1 million to the resident capacity structure, and then they followed it up with two years later with a near $350,000 donation

that allowed the facility to pay off its mortgage, and the property is also part of the National Register of Historic Places. Yeah, so it's not going anywhere for sure. Now, I just want to be clear. So this is the original house that Paul, that Williams designed then for Harry and Celia, right? Actually, you're absolutely right. It was designed for Harry and David Holmes.

And David, and David, okay. The key thing that you're really bringing up, which is important, is that the Harry and David Rosenberg were Jewish entrepreneurs, incredible entrepreneurs, with Harry and David. but because of just before World War II, the anti-Semitism that was going on, and Germany was a very big market, they just changed their name to their stepfather-in-law, which was Holmes. And so that's where the name of Holmes came by. It was really Harry and David. Okay, all right.

Thanks for... So that original home is now Celia's House, the hospice, right? Yes. Okay, good. All right, I'm just trying to, because it almost sounded like it was like in different areas. And so I'm just a little confused about that. Oh, okay. Well, that's a good clarification to be sure.

It's the same place. Okay. And also, not only did Paul Williams for the Harry and his wife, Elizabeth, their home, but that was the particular one that after they died, John sold it. But then when John sold the house, it later was purchased by the hospice house facility. And that's where it all started with the Southern Oregon Friends of Hospice. All right. Very good.

It's good to have that. Hey, thanks so much for the clarification, doctor. I think what confused me is that there was a boutique on Ashland Street and Ashland, right? And then there's Holmes Street. That's in Metford, right? Just one, too. Well, that's really, that's opening up something even more, Bill. And I really appreciate that point because the hospice unique boutique on Ashland Street in Ashland that was started, basically, let's say 2009, 2010, was owned by Southern Oregon Friends of Hospice.

And at that time, because of some boards I was on, you know, I saw this starting and saw the, and knew the people. And as a matter of fact, Bill, from our past and present book, we actually from the sales donated part of those sales, because all the profits went to nonprofits here in our area. It went to Cecilia's house in Holmes Park. All right. I think I got it now. Doc, thanks so much. I appreciate that. And so that's a wonderful palate cleanser because it's a really fascinating part of Southern Oregon history.

Celia's house in Holmes Park, all right? Yeah, and it actually at some point in time should be made into a documentary, but that will be certainly after my lifetime. Okay, well, we'll have you here anyway, okay? We'll be right back, and why don't we just take a quick break here and help out some of these Southern Oregon businesses, and then we're going to dig into what happened with Putin, what might be going on with Zelensky, kind of give us your take on the legal side of things,

if you don't mind. and a lot of people making some questions or asking questions about posse comitatus and what's going on in Washington, D.C., and what do we have to keep in mind that we're not militarizing the country under the guise of getting our streets back? Are you a game for that? Sure, wherever you want to go, I'm here for you. All right, we'll have that all coming up. This is the Bill Myers Show, 828.

Dr. Dennis Powers, retired professor of business law. Hey, Doc, wanted to weigh in with overall impressions. We had the Putin, Trump, little talk in Alaska on Friday. I found it most interesting watching the news coverage, the headlines that were coming out of it. And if it was on the, if it was kind of like a right-wing news, Trump could do no wrong. And when it was left-wing, like I saw in New York Times, it was just Trump bows to Putin's demands, was one of the headlines that I saw coming up. And it just kind of, okay, so the truth is probably somewhere between the licksbiddle wet kiss from the right and the tongue lashing from the left, wouldn't you say? What happened there?

That's a good way of putting it. Yeah, what was your overall impression of it? Because it was just a talking thing. It was almost like a fact-finding mission is the way it felt like to me. Well, there was some real brilliance shown by Trump because he had his plan A, B, and C, and all the different ones are of pundits are coming up with all three. What I thought was really well planned was that what Trump did is expanded immediately today that the same Russia, Ukraine, trains talks to include Europe and individual countries. Because the Putin, who is a demagogue, you know, all of a sudden came in and said, we're going to go directly to peace.

Well, what happens then is the fact that Trump brings in individual countries for these guarantees, these security guarantees, which was so important. So he got one of the two. So in other words, in other words, he's giving, what he wants to do is give Ukraine NATO-like protection, but not membership in NATO-level protection. Is that kind of where we're talking about? Precisely, right on the nail and very, very important. And so what he's doing, though, is he's laid the stage so that he can pull out of this, because, Because once you have the three-way meeting with Putin, Zelensky, and Trump, he's going to be having some of these individual countries involved, and then he's going to be able to go ahead and say it's up to Ukraine to do it. And he's just trying to clean up the mess of the Democrat Party with their capital K that we're seeing all throughout this country, because then he can come in in terms of the Senate.

there's all these different things that are coming in, such as Washington, D.C., and what he's doing is, to me, amazing. Do you think that when Putin on Friday said that, you know, asked to, I'm just going to paraphrase what was said, that had President Trump been president, there would have been no war? Was that real, do you think, from Vlad, or more of an attempt to flatter Trump? Because, you know, Trump has an ego. You know, it probably doesn't hurt to him a little bit, you know, to kiss up to him a little bit in something like that. like that? How do you read it? Oh, on that issue, Bill, I really believe, although this is just a believer of one, if you will, which is me, was the fact that we would not have had the war,

because, you know, we're all young enough, my friend, to where all of us and your listeners can go back and remember, let's say five years ago, when Biden, who was not running the White House, but Obamosaurus was, got sidetracked and sidewacked again by the way that Biden supposedly said, don't. I'd pack Ukraine. You dummy. And all of the Democrats don't. And what did he do? The same thing did with Obama. I'll be really curious to see how this reacts, because, you know, there's a bunch of people over in East Medford, especially up on the hill that have their, you know, support Ukraine, yard signs, right? And I'll be curious if they're still going to be in that mode here over time

where support Ukraine means continuing the war, won't you? Well, I believe that there are those that do believe that. That's true. I would love to see the war continued, and that's just a private thought. On the other hand, practically, that doesn't help our country with the fact that we're in a civil war, the Democrats. Well, it also is a proxy. We've been funding what's going on in Ukraine, too. So I understand why Trump wants to get out of this. If there's really not a lot of leverage that Trump

really has over Russia. I mean, really, because haven't they kind of gotten used to us having sanctions on them all the time? And what they end up doing is essentially opening up different markets and they get closer to the BRICS countries, don't they? Isn't that essentially where we force them? This is a really good issue, Bill, that you're opening up, because the one thing that was kept open was oil and Russia's financing of the war. And the first thing that Trump did when he saw that Putin was delaying horribly, which was just within the last couple of weeks, he put on tariffs in terms of oil with India. one of our countries that was brilliant because what happened was that India was buying all this oil from Russia propping up the war and able to get low-cost oil.

But doesn't this hurt us ultimately to tariff India on this? Because, you know, we have multiple things to balance, not just a trade balance here. And one of the biggest problems I think, I'm just talking about this from as a matter of the economy, from the Federal Reserve. is that we want everybody to use the dollar and then we beat you over the head with sanctions if we don't like what you're doing with the dollar. You know what I'm getting at? You know, it's almost like a push-me-pull-you kind of reaction.

And at some point, if you want to keep the reserve currency and keep these plates spinning, we can't do that with India. Or am I wrong? No, that's an excellent issue, an excellent point bill that you're bringing up. The one thing that comes out is that with all the dollars, thanks to Biden and the Democrats, that are floating around this world. There's a bunch of them. You bet.

There's a lot of them out there. It's going to be very difficult to go ahead and to really devalue all those dollars that are being held in different pockets, including by Saudi Arabia, a number of other ones, that on the trip that Trump took that went down through all these Arabian countries, he was also getting pledges. Now, where Biden was trying to go ahead and have them flood the mark with oil because he was trying to strangle our country, the idiot, what we had was the fact that Trump has gone ahead to open up. Everything was done with this logical path that was going through even on the tariffs

because the fact that, you know, Trump has its problems. Trump. Trumpism does have his problems because he jumps in the South province, and that's been a weakness that people have been going after him on. But on the other hand, I look at it as a strength because we've gone through all these years of Obama and Soros and Biden and Clinton going ahead and really depatriizing our country because they really wanted us to be part of the global union of the world because they would have more power. Yeah, and that's certainly a good cultural statement, doctor. I wanted to touch on just two other issues, kind of in your wheelhouse, and this is the legal world, okay? If you don't mind. We're going to shift over from a foreign policy to what's going on. The D.C. takeover of the police, of the police from the Trump administration, I know that there is power to do this for 30 days or so.

and the issue that people are raising is about posse comitatus. When do we get to the point where controlling D.C. police ends up getting us closer to violating that. I'm hearing a lot of squeaking from civil libertarians on the net, and we're not talking about leftists that are squeaking about this. Any thoughts on this with the policy and the law? Yeah, I have been to these. cities on some of my tours on the books, Bill. And you do not want to go into Detroit at 1 o'clock in the morning. You do not want to go into Washington, D.C. at night. I know that personally haven't been

there a few times. You bet. Didn't want to. Boy, do you know that? I mean, because especially with the way that you have been broadcasting throughout, that is really true. What you're hearing about the civil libertarians who don't have any idea as to what it's like to be in a major city during at night, they're squeaking about posse kamatatas, which is almost a 150-year-old law that has a different type of origin. And what it means is the fact that you cannot go ahead and have the military interfere in civilian affairs, because that's a threat to both democracy and personal liberty. A posse comitist, though, goes back to white supremacy.

This is what these people are forgetting. And what it is is when you're going back to white supremacy, this act was passed after the end of Reconstruction because you had white supremacists that were primarily in the Democratic states, in the South, that came in after Reconstruction. and Congress wanted to ensure that the federal military would not be used to intervene in the establishment of Jim Crow. Now, I get that. I understand the intent of posse comitatis, and I'm glad you have explained this. However, is President Trump flirting with close to that edge with National Guard taking over of law enforcement in D.C.? Okay, that's a really good question to take us to.

that brings us into the next act, the next pos of it, in your absentee right. That is why when Pam Bondi went ahead and declared the emergency on home rule, the first time you had, you had all of these far-left Democratic senators that were saying there is no emergency. There is no 30-day emergency. These are just people who, who happened to be Caucasian that just happened to be in the wrong place at the right time. No, it was an emergency, which is why, my friend, that as you're pointing out so well, there was a settlement, and the settlement was okay when the lawsuit came in, the Washington police will be underneath the African-American police chief,

but Pam Bondi is going to be able to say go after the illegal immigrants and the youth who are creating these problems. It's not posse comitonis. What it is is the fact that you've got to do something so that people can walk even during the daytime. I have friends of mine who are Democrats, card-carrying Democrats, my friend, that would never vote for a public.

And one of them just told me two days ago when I was talking to him. He said, I will never go to a large city in a blue state because I tried that once in Portland, two years ago. And I am not going to do it again. Yeah. Speaking of which, I find this interesting, maybe we can talk about this in a couple of weeks when we next get together, Dr. But I'll be really interested to see what goes on with the Trump administration going over the Smithsonian, because the Smithsonian, especially the Museum of American History, is just a snake pit of anti-American wokeism

from top to bottom. And I experienced that a few years ago. So we'll do that a couple of weeks from now. But let me take it now to a point of law for Southern Oregon. Did you read or keep in contact with what disability rights, Oregon lawsuit against the City of Grants Pass? You know, they got dismissed or not dismissed, but negotiated on Friday. And the City of Grants Pass is now going to be able to enforce homelessness rules in the city. Did you keep up on that story? Did you catch that by chance?

Well, thank you for opening it up for us because, Bill, the first thing is that what the homeless crews did here, the ones that, let's say, who are leading the fight for the homeless, and I would like to know where they're getting their funding, that's a separate issue. Yeah, well, it looks like they're going to be getting their funding from the grants payer, grants pass taxpayer, in some case. because I wanted to touch on a couple of things, and maybe you can help me understand. There is a laundry list of things that the City of Grants Passes agreed to do as part of settling and getting rid of this lawsuit with disability rights, Oregon. And this one, and one of them is that low barrier shelter for not less than 150 homeless for a year. And then... Yeah, with water to wash your hands with.

Yeah, water to wash your hands with. with it, you know, water to wash your needles with, I don't know. That's what it. But in all seriousness, this was a part of it that struck me that legally it could be a loophole big enough to drive a whole lot of nonprofits into, okay? It said, grants pass will create a reasonable accommodation process for disabled homeless individuals who are unable to use park space or designated resting sites. Now, when I'm looking at that, when you see reasonable accommodation, in other words, people

who can't be in the tents, people who can't be the parks, does that mean the city of Grants Pass is buying motel or hotel rooms for people? I'm just curious if it goes to that or some other accommodation. What is reasonable? Because you know, as a point of law, reasonable is a reasonable. a weasel word, isn't it? Yes. It is, Bill, and you see, on the overall issue that you're pointing out so well, the Supreme Court had gone ahead and said this was not with what Grant's Pass was doing, cruel and unusual punishment underneath the Eighth Amendment. Okay, that took a lot

of time, and you had a lot of people that had to put money into it. What the disabled rights people, the ACLU did, which was a, I was waiting for this. It's brilliant. Legally, they came in and said, oh, okay, you talked about the homeless, but we have the Disability Rights Act. Right. And we have disabled homeless people. What are you going to do with that? Well, we'll sue you over that. And in the negotiations, these same people that are funded and want funding for the their work for the homeless were able to go ahead and convince the city council and all the people involved in it that guess what you think you had a bad fight on the first one that went up to the supreme court you my friends will have a horrible on this one so you're seeing this then

as a potential legal trap for the city of grants passed the reasonable accommodation for disabled homeless who can't use the park space or designated size a legal trap done by the ACLU that came in with their people that went ahead. You had the Alliance Defending Freedom that was trying to do its best to neutralize this. And what happens that comes in then is that they're using grants pass

in Southern Oregon in this blue state as a petri dish for the homeless mainly. Okay, well... And that's why this negotiation is one that you're absolutely right. It opens up a way to where

money, money, money, money, money, money, it's funny that you bring this up, doctor, because another part of the deal here is by December of 2026, the city agrees to give $60,000 to a nonprofit for services to homeless individuals. And in exchange for waiving the other costs, fees, or damages, grants, pass agrees to pay $85,000 to disability rights Oregon's trust account. So... There you go.

Okay. Another nonprofit that is really funded through far-left sources is coming in. using our area as a petri dish, think Alliance Defending Freedom contribute to Alliance Defending Freedom for the next step that's going to come from the disability homeless, and they'll figure out another way to go ahead and put pressure on Southern Oregon. So it'll be another angle. Okay. Doc, I had suspicions when I saw the wording of that, you know, when you see reasonable accommodations for disabled, because all you have to do is be a drug addict and you're now considered disabled, even by state. law, from what I understand. And Bill, you have hit the total nail on the head with a sledgehammer like old Henry who's driving it through, because that is where Oregon, with its blueness

following, California, is not with the rest of the country saying reasonable accommodations. All right. Thank you very much, Doc. All right, Doc. So I'm going to be on vacation next week and then on Labor Day Monday. So we'll revisit in a couple of weeks from now. I always appreciate your time, and we'll have you back after Labor Day. After the Labor Day time, okay? You'd be well. And for years, I've appreciated working with you, Bill.

You and Linda are the best. All right. Thank you, Doctor. Always good. You and Judy and everybody else. It is 10 before 9. Dr. Dennis Powers, Dennis Powers, Books.com. This is the Bill Myers Show.

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about Cecilia's house. Oh, I'm glad that was the hospice, the hospice home from the Harry and David founder, wife. I've ministered to several people up there in their last days, last hours, actually, several of them. And it is an amazing place, a place like I've never seen before in my life. What's it like, describe it as someone who has been there ministering? Well, inside it's got these various bedrooms that are beautifully decorated. and taken care of, and they have all kinds of personnel caring for the person who is spending their last days, hours on this earth.

And so, and I've been there. I've been there one time I walked out the door, and as I walked out the door, the lady passed away. Wow. The other time, most recently I was there with a man whose family was with him, and then they asked me to do a special ceremony with him. after his death. And that was unique. Never done that before in my 50-some years of ministry. But it's beautiful. It's spacious. I can't even describe what else to say. But I am certain,

because I heard from dear friends, that it's expensive. But anyway, I'm not going to talk about that part. But I'm glad the service is available. How about that? Okay? Yeah, that's right. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. All right. Hey, thank you, Lauren. Great hearing from you. 770-5633. Speaking of someone else who is working the religious side of things, keep David LaBarbera, Reverend David in your thoughts today.

He's undergoing a procedure. That's all believe. I don't want to get too much into it. I'm going to keep him in my prayers today, and hopefully we'll get him back on the show talking tomorrow. Hopefully he'll be feeling good. I just thought I'd toss that out there, okay? Army is here. Army, Mr. Trujillo, good to hear from you. What's on your mind? We've got about two and a half minutes left. What's going on?

Okay. This is very short. Anyway, the fad, the crazy fad that they've got in Russia, where groups of people are flying over to Mexico to kiss as many Maya Indians as they can find. Really? Well, between Putin and Russia and Trump, Trump asked Putin, well, why didn't you go? go. And he said, I'm too busy on these peace talks with you. And Trump says, well, if you don't agree to ending the war, you can kiss by us, too. That's almost a dad joke. You know that. It is, but it's an original. And I thought about this a couple days ago. Hey, this fits. I love that. Hey, Army, you know, I love it when someone can surprise me. And I'm thinking,

Okay, where is he going with his one? And I kiss mine. I'm ready to hit the dump button, you know? And I appreciate the call. Thank you, Bill. You take care. Have a great day. You too.

All right. By the way, you could go to Two DogsFab.com, submit your dad joke. I already did one dad joke earlier this morning. Maybe we can have some more this week, okay? Quick email of the day, and that is sponsored by Dr. Steve Nelson, Central Point Family Dentistry. central point family dentistry.com while you weigh crowns 30 minutes to just get it all taken up and grind it up and put it in the oven and boom there it is worked for me central point family dentistry dot com granny wrote me once again about the talk we were having about the uh about the FBI

FBI Cash Patel awarding all the people involved in Malheur big awards over the last few days not great optics for people on the right and granny says bill perhaps we have exchanged the hyenas, rather. Perhaps we have exchanged the hyenas for slightly more sophisticated wolves. The fact remains, we are still dinner. President Trump may be doing some good things again.

The fact remains he is swimming in the swamp. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. Could be their granny. We'll continue to report on the good and the well, not so great from time to time. I appreciate you emailing and your opinion. The email

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