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Episode Date: August 19, 2025

Morning news and commentary, Tim Keller, is a healthcare and lifestyle analyst, and founder of U.S. Diabetes Care - MAHA movement wants reform on food stamps, Snap Bennies, Oregon Trail Card.

The Bill Meyer Show podcast is sponsored by Klausur drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausor drilling.com. Here's Bill Meyer. Great to have you here on Pebble in Your Shoe Tuesday. Pebble in Your Shoe Tuesday, a time that I'm happy to take your call. It's 7705-633-770K-M-E-D. And we can talk about something which is bugging you.

All right, whatever happens to be on your mind, go ahead and join in, even though we do have quite a bit of guest activity. here to talk about and we'll we'll dig into this one of the subjects we'll be talking about in about a half hour with tim keller tim keller is with a u.s diabetes care and of course he has an app that they've been putting out he i've talked with him a time or two before and i find him really interesting because he is all in on the make america healthy again deal and a lot of this a lot of this i think we're going to be talking about with tim is about how to reform the snap benefits otherwise known as the Oregon Trail card here in the state of Oregon.

And there are reforms coming one way or the other. And some of the reforms that they're talking about, and, you know, RFK Jr. is quite serious about restricting what people are able to buy with their SNAP benefits. And this whole idea that, you know, that you're giving somebody a lot of taxpayer money to go into a grocery store or to go into a 7-Eleven or something. place else like that, and that it should be buying candy bars and or fruit roll-ups rather than fruit and milk and, you know, beans, things that are actually healthier to eat to actually,

you know, make some real meals. It's turning into a big thing. It's something which I have been surprised hasn't really been touched before. It's been kind of a third rail. A lot of people don't realize, though, that some of the reasons, or one of the reasons it's been, at least in my opinion after having read a bit on this subject, why it's been so difficult to to reform the food stamp program has been that the big box stores make a lot of money. A lot of their bottom line ends up coming through selling food stamp stores,

or food stamp food rather, taking the stamp benefits. There's a lot of money connected with it. And you also have big food and big egg and big sugar. And big sugar in this country is really not big sugar. Big sugar is usually big corn, you know, high fructose. corn syrup. There's a lot of this all tied in together. There's a lot of institutional resistance to wanting to say, hey, maybe you should buy a protein rather than, you know, something cheap and processed and, yeah, it fills the hole in your belly, but makes you fat and sick,

you know, that kind of thing. We'll talk with that, Tim, about that and more. I know that RFK Jr. is making quite a few inroads and stepping on quite a few toes. And some toes needed to be stepped on, in my opinion. So we'll talk with him about the latest on that one. There's also another story, which it came out yesterday, got a note from State Representative Dwayne Yonker. We'll talk with him about an hour from now. And he sent a letter and a lot of documentation to Dr. Oz. Dr. Oz over at the U.S. Center for Medicare and Medicaid services. Oregon Department of Human Services told Representative Younger, I believe is how this is. And like I said, we're going to go over with it about an hour from now, told his office

that denying a taxpayer-funded strip club field trip for developmentally disabled clients could jeopardize federal Medicaid funding. So apparently the Oregon Department of Human Services was paying for a strip club thing. I mean, you know, it's funny how Dwayne's able to ferret this kind of stuff out. You know, because he got in trouble when he was reading the porn books, the porno books in the Grants Pass school district, or maybe it was in. I forget which district it was in.

But it was from one of the school districts in Josephine County. He's reading the haters on that. And he gets in trouble for actually, you know, talking about the raw, LGBTQ porn that was as being paid for by taxpayers in the government school systems. And now, apparently, we have our government in the state of Oregon paying for strip club trips. I'm really kind of curious what this is all about. And this is from his press release here. Like I said, we'll flesh this out a little bit more an hour from now.

But in an August 12th response to Representative Younger, Oregon Department of Human Services, cited federal regulations requiring person-centered services, suggesting that refusing a person-centered services might cost Oregon its Medicaid dollars. Now, it's Medicaid dollars is Oregon Health Plan. Now, how they connect taking people to strip clubs with losing funding for the Oregon Health Plan, it seems like a real stretch. And Representative Younger says, and rightly I think so. So federal rules cannot be used as a cover for abuse.

So we'll have more on that story. Another story, yeah, as yesterday, U.S. Senator Ron Wyden was in Southern Oregon. He spoke in Josephine County yesterday. He was having a town hall. Actually, he never really had a chance to talk. And former state senator Herman Berkshiger has that story. We'll dig into that at 735. For about a half hour or so, about 50 of the pro-Gaza protesters were just loud and banging things and making noise and they weren't able to get the town hall started.

And after a while, they ended up just canceling the town hall meeting. So that's what happened at Senator Ron Wyden's event yesterday. It ended up being a non-event. Fortunately, there's five-on-five on K-O-B-I or anything else. And so that is the latest there. Really interesting. Actually, shouting down the situation to the point where a U.S. senator is not able to speak his peace. Not a great development, really.

And I'm curious what could be done about this. Now, I'm just thinking out loud. So, you know, pardon me for just thinking out loud. Should have been thinking about this a little bit more before I came on, but I've been really busy this morning. But I'm thinking about, okay, could we just get to the point where you start throwing out, where you just throw out the people who are causing trouble? And then, you know, if you start protesting, you know, protesting at the meeting,

because the whole idea of the town hall is to be able to have conversations. And if you're not willing to have a conversation, and if you're not willing to let other people have conversations, shouldn't they just be arrested? Or would that make Ron Wyden look good? I know Cliff Benz got to the point where he's, you know, stopped wanting to do these things, too, because all you do is have the hissy-fit leftist. Well, the hissie-fit leftist has showed up for Ron Wyden, too.

So they're not happy in one form or another. And I guess it's bad optics to be arresting and charging people who show up to your town hall meetings, right? I guess that must be the policy or the thought process behind just doing them nothing, doing them. So nobody gets a chance to talk to Ron Wyden yesterday, except the media. That's about it. On a national story here, everyone seems to be kind of guardedly optimistic about the possibility of peace for Russia and Ukraine after the meeting yesterday with Zelensky and a bunch of European leaders here. And at the end of the reading, at the end of the meetings, rather, people expressing a pretty good idea. Now, they are talking, though, about providing some NATO-like protection for Ukraine.

Now, Russia at last talk is not going to sign off on something like that. So I don't know if this is just everybody just wanting to play nicey, nice, and happy, happy after the big meeting here yesterday with Zelensky. But that's kind of the overall feeling, you know, coming out of the news reporting world today. Zelensky did show up and it was a different it was a different kind of um that was a different tone he actually showed up dressed well and that was helpful because remember how President Trump just uh just it was not happy with the way he showed up in that that military sweatshirt you know financial times reporting here from the moment Donald Trump greeted Volitimer Zelensky outside the West Wing on Monday afternoon there seemed to be less personal tension between

the men compared with their public spat in late February. Zelensky's allies had feared another public showdown with consequences for Trump's attitude in Ukraine against its war against Russia. Fears were unfounded. The Ukrainian president accepted Trump's plea to wear a suit instead of the military sweatshirt like we've usually seen him in, right? U.S. president smiled and when a reporter asked what his message was to the people of Ukraine, he responded, we love them. Inside the Oval Office scene of the bust up almost six months ago, Vice President Vance in Secretary of State Marco Rubio sitting in the same positions on the sofa

next to the two leaders. As well as changing his clothes, Zelensky also praised a letter that U.S. First Lady Melania Trump had sent to Putin about the fate of Ukrainian children, including those abducted by Russia. So there we go. Still moving. Hopefully moving forward to something

that say we can pour no money or at least less money into that rat hole known as Ukraine. Other stories going on today. Really sad one. This is a, yeah, we go from Ukraine, which is sad in one way to a very sad story here locally. And this was from Josephine County sheriffs yesterday.

And I read this. I posted this and it's just, it's making me shake my head. And this is a big pebble in my shoe that we still have a lot of families. I don't think that recognize liberal. brutality of and I know I'm just going to say it certain dog breeds it happens time and time

again but there's a four-year-old girl in Cave Junction and this is Laurel Road in Cave Junction and she was mailed to death and she was killed by apparently the family dog from the way it looks like

and under sheriff Travis Snyder ended up putting out this news yesterday and the dog was a Cain Corso, Rottweiler, Pitbull, Mix. I looked up a picture of that, of that Cain Corso, Rottweiler, Pitbull, mix. Incredibly strong, well-muscled, obviously built to be a guard and or fighting dog. I don't know how there's any way else that you can put this. I don't think there's anything else you can do about this.

And I know that I'm going to hear from people that say, oh, I have a cane corso-rottweiler pit bull mix, and it's just fine. It's just fine. You know, it's a little pebbles as sweet a cane-corso, Rottweiler pit bull mixes can be. But this little girl was mulled to death. What a horrible way to go.

And are we ever going to start being more responsible with these kind of animals in our society. I had to put it this way. It's almost that, you know, when you start talking about dog breeds, it's almost like they're asking like you're racist, like you're being racist against this kind of stuff, right? You're being racist. Well, you know, and I also say sometimes when people are accused of racism today,

they're being accused of noticing stuff, you know, if you notice things that are going on. Well, if we're going to go through the races of the dog, The Cain Corso, Rottweiler, Pitbull Mix is arguably, yeah, maybe it's a perfectly fine and happy dog for the most part, you know, around you. But if it's not, it has the strength in the ability to just tear people apart. And that's why a lot of people get them. And I'm sorry, I'm a lot of fan of this stuff. There's a reason why the Golden Retriever is like the number one dog breed for families.

because they're pretty safe around the families too. There are other dogs that I've had, but Kane Corso-Rottweiler Pit Bull Mix. I'm sorry. I don't get this. I feel so sorry for the four-year-old girl and the family. Certainly I have a feeling that I'm hoping that they're, you know, examining their thoughts today.

The Cane Corso-Rotweiler Pit Bull Mix, by the way, is in custody over at Animal Control, awaiting its sentence. I imagine the dog is probably going to be put down, but you don't hear about anybody getting mauled to death by the Chihuahua or usually the yellow lab, even the black lab, you know, that sort of things, but we know that there are certain characteristics of certain breeds.

And yet people still have them for family pets. I don't get it. I really don't. It's just like I'm perfectly happy to have a, you know, a family house cat, you know, that sort of thing. But I know there are also people that they keep wildcats. You know, something? The wildcats are different. You know, the wild cat's different from a house cat, you know? It's not the same thing.

Just like a Kane Corso-Rotweiler Pitbull mix is not the same as a yellow lab. 7705-633, if you want to talk about it, fine. but that just bugs me. I feel so sorry this four-year-old just snatched from this earth. For precision and performance, visit Montanaroofing Services.com. This is Randall with Advanced Air,

and I'm on KMED. 28 minutes after six on Pebble in Your Shoe Tuesday, 7705-633. Francine, you wanted to talk about the poor four-year-old girl killed by the family dog in Cave Junction, and that was on Saturday. Everybody shows up and they couldn't revive her, but it was a Cane Corso-Rottweiler pit bull mix.

And I looked up what those dogs look like. Yeah, I mean, it's a gorgeous handsome dog, but it's very, very strong, muscular, and all that stuff. But see, that in itself is not the issue. And like, don't get me wrong, I'm not defending what happened at all. Well, every time something if this happens, people do call up and defend it.

Well, I know, but I'm not. not defending the dog per se for its behavior, but what I do want to put out there is, not always, but a lot of times the animal itself has, people have done things to make the animal react badly. Maybe it was a mistreated animal. Maybe it was an adopted animal that had been mistreated. Maybe the little girl didn't know how to act around a dog because her parents didn't teach her. I mean, I'm not, please don't misinterpret what I'm saying. There are just simply facts that contribute to the situation is all I'm trying to say. Okay.

That could have contributed to the situation. So, and I'm not saying, oh, the poor dog, you know. What I'm trying to say is the facts are a lot of people do not know how to have a dog. They don't, they don't. They, you know, a dog, it's like an accessory and an ego thing. It's like, oh, I've got a blah, blah, blah. You know? Yeah, I know that there are some people that.

will get the more aggressive, stronger dog breeds, you know, because it's kind of like, yeah, it's a projecting, so to speak. It's a symbolic sort of ego builder. You know, it makes them seem like they're more badder-ass people than they are. That's not, it doesn't. And I don't know what has. I don't know about the family in Cave Junction. I'm not, but I'm shaking my hand, though, my head, though, is that if you hear about

somebody being mauled to death by a dog, it's usually going to be. a list of the usual suspects, though. You know that, right? Of course, yeah, I do. Okay. I do. But, you know, what I'm trying to say is I have seen so many people, you know, doing stupid things with their dogs, you know, people that will walk a dog,

and every time the dog stops to smell something, they yank on the leash, go, come on, come on. They don't understand. This dog needs to stop and smell things, you know. There are certain things in dog behavior that a lot of people don't understand. and eventually, you know, there's a psychologist, dogs have, you know, they have brains, they have minds, they have hearts, they have, you know, dogs are very intuitive, and if you deny it from its being, doing some of its natural. Yeah, if you deny its dog, I'm sure. Okay, I get that. Okay, what kind of guard, what, what kind of guard dog are you have then, okay? Well, yeah, no, I mean, you know, I've got a little weenie dog, I mean, not a weenie dog, but, you know, just a little calm, you know, sweet dog. That's not, that the point I'm trying to make is that a dog's psychology can be messed with, and people don't understand that, yeah, a dog, there's psychology going, that goes on with it, with an animal, you know, whether it's a dog, a horse, it doesn't matter, you know, if an animal, you always have to remember, it's an animal.

It's not a person that you can talk to in the same way as, you know, and you never quite know what's really going on in their mind. I mean, I've spent a lot of time wondering, how does an animal think without language, you know, because we have all this language and we process all these things. Well, you know, you're always talking about it, you're talking about it, though, from an intellectual standpoint. I'm looking at this that when I look at a fighting dog and a guard dog, a cane corso, Rottweiler Pitbull mix, I'm looking at a certain amount of instinct. that might be in there too, though. That we fail to acknowledge or we don't want to acknowledge or we don't want to acknowledge because we always talk about, well, you know, my freedom, that kind of thing. No, I'm not arguing with you or anything about that.

I totally agree with you. And that's what I'm saying is that the people are making bad choices or poor choices or, you know. But I also think there are just some, can we just be honest with one another, though, that there are just sometimes bad, aggressive dog breeds. and I'm just going to say it, okay? No, I'm not saying that's not true. I know, but you see, you're going to go out there and psychoanalyze the killing machine. That's all I'm getting at.

No, no, no. What I'm trying to say is I'm trying to explain that there's somebody's going on with an animal like a dog, and people don't recognize that, and they just think it's this cute thing or this handsome thing that they can get and keep as an accoutrement to their existence without thinking about what it is they're bringing into their home. All right. And Francine, I appreciate the call. And thank you for that on your pebble. It's a pebble there.

Hi, good morning. This is Bill. Who's this? Hi, Bill. This is Tim from Merlin. Hi, Tim. What are you thinking? Yeah.

I grew up around dogs and I got to learn about some of the breeds. And I was in a doctor's office talking with a lady that owned the home way from home pets place. And she would adopt, you know, older police dogs and Great Danes and all that. or greyhounds, and she knew a lot about the breeds. And I was talking to asking her about police dogs. I know I heard that they used the German, the giant snowser for police dogs, and they used another breed too, and they also used the German Shepherd. But each breed has its own programming in it, the nature, the way they've been bred for the centuries.

I know the Rottweiler was a Roman cattle dog, and then the Germans got a hold of it, and they trained it as a protector dog. but it's it's they're not really good around kids unless they grow up around kids and they're well trained i don't i wouldn't want uh if i had a small child i wouldn't want a rottweller or a pit bull um i asked her did they use rotwaters for police dogs and she said no she said the reason being is when they attack you know the dog goes to attack or stop the you know the burglar or whatever it won't they can't get it off Oh, yeah. Other dogs are obedient, and they know how to turn off that switch.

The Rottwaters, also my mom had Rottwater, and we were, my brother and I were full-grown teenagers, so the dog wasn't really used to small people, and one day she was walking it outside, and the leash broke away from my mom, and it bit this little kid, and it didn't break the skin, but she found out later on that dogs that aren't used to. to kids, see them as other dogs if they're not around them a lot. Yeah, okay, that makes sense. Tim, thanks for sharing your story and experience, too. We'll pick this up a little bit later, okay?

Standing by, we're going to shift it over to a different kind of subject this time. It's going to be Making America Healthy, and Tim Keller's going to join me from U.S. Diabetes Care. It's going to be afternoose. And we're going to be digging in a little bit to the Maha movement, the latest they're trying to reform food stamps. That's coming up. This is insurance agent A.

Hey. Zero. Good morning. This is News Talk 1063, KMED. And you're waking up with the Bill Myers Show. Tim Keller on the show with me. He is a health care, rather. He's a health care and lifestyle analyst.

He's the founder of U.S. Diabetes Care. It's a mission-driven health education company. And he's focused on ending the diabetes epidemic in America, not by medications, but by teaching people how to. to reverse conditions. And that's essentially what you're all about. Is it it, Tim? Welcome back to the program.

Always good to have you on. Yeah, I mean, we're a transitional preventative care. Our focus is education. You know, I don't think you can fix anyone without educating them. The problem with the westernized system of medicine is two-hour and a waiting room, five-minute visit. Throw a bunch of medications at you for a Band-Aid to fix diabetes. It doesn't work.

You have to get, you know, lifestyle education, teach people what diabetes really is. It's a form of insulin resistance that is created from the processed foods and bad things we eat and put in our body. People are not hydrated enough with water. They're not eating enough fiber. They're not eating enough vegetables. We're not exercising. Yeah, we're doing everything we can to possibly kill us at a young age, and then we want the pill to then extend. their life, right? That's essentially where we are, right?

100%. Okay. All right. Now, this is an app, right? The U.S. Diabetes Care, it's an app that you put on the phone, and what does it do? How does it actually work there, really? Yeah, so we, you know, so we have the app on Apple and Android. You can go direct to the app and download from there.

You can go to our website at usdiabetes care.com, and they're going to learn more tab. And I actually suggest people to go to the website just so they can read about us and learn a little bit more of what we do. And there's a Learn More tab on there that will tell them everything that the app offers and how it functions. Our app is not a gamification app. We are focused on peer education. You know, I didn't, you know, maybe later down the road, if that's what people are into and want, we might have some gamification to it.

But for now, we just have a peer educational app, which I think is important. Okay, very good. Tim, I wanted to talk with you about this because part of the Make America, healthy, again, push, has been for RFK Jr. to, R.R.K. Jr. has talked seriously. They're really talking seriously about this in Washington, D.C., about reforming the rules around SNAP benefits. That would be food stamps in some states. In the state of Oregon, it is the trail card, the Oregon trail card. It's an EBT electronic benefits card that people have, and then they end up able to buy any kind of food that they want. What R.F.K. Jr. is talking about

is restricting the ability of food stamps to buy the bad stuff. Isn't that essentially what, you know, the conversation is going right now? And people are just going or coming unglued really over the possibility of this right now. How do you see it? Well, I think it's an amazing positive step in the right direction. How many times you've been in a grocery store and, hey, look, if people need benefits and services, you know, I'm for that, okay? If people, look, you go a grocery store when I was a kid with my mom, he could fill up two cards for $100. You go grocery store now, you can barely fill up a half cart for $100.

Yeah, the inflation has pretty much stuck after the rate of inflation has slowed down, right? That's what we're living with right now. Yeah, 100%. So if people need help getting food, I have no problem with that. What I have a problem with is the fact that their carts are filled up with 90% junk food and processed food and pop. what people call it soviet it's ridiculous and uh i mean this stuff is is killing us slowly um once again goes back to the education piece no one's educated to know what to buy or not to buy uh they say diabetes is genetic disease that's that's a that's a that's a misnomer it's not

genetic at all but if you eat like your parents ate and your grandparents ate and a bunch of processed bad refined fats refined sugars um type of food you're going to have diabetes too i mean diabetes is, it's resistance with the process food that we have out there in America is very easy to get. And by the way, what is insulin resistance, Tim? Could you define that? I hear that term. I don't even know if I really understand what that means, and I'd like to find out more.

Okay? Yeah. So, you know, this is where, you know, the education comes in. Diabetes type 2, type 3, not type 1, type 1 is an autoimmune condition where your pancreas shuts down and your beta cells don't produce insulin. And by the way, you would probably call that a genetic marker on diabetes, right? Yeah. You know the autoimmune?

Absolutely. Okay. Yeah, so autoimmune can be a genetic marker, right? So there's some environmental things that happen to, viruses and things like that that shut the fingers down. But those people are insulin dependent. They have to have insulin to survive. All the other diabetes, type 2, type 3, baster dementia, that's created by a simple called insulin

resistance. So what happens is that over time of eating. bad foods and processed foods and sugars and flour and refined fats, you start uploading extra sugar into the muscle. So diabetes is a muscular disease. People don't understand it. They think it's an internal disease. It's not.

It's a muscular disease. All the cells that live in your muscle for energy. So the pancreas produces insulin. Insulin gets into your liver. The liver produces a substance called glucagon, which is sugar. that is supposed to function, it goes to the cells and the muscle for energy. Over years of dysfunction and eating bad foods, and now we call it metabolic dysfunction, we get a thing called insulin resistance.

Instant resistance is a cellular dysfunction that live in your muscles that basically lock the cell for letting the glucagon in the system. This can happen for years. You can leave dormant in 10, 15 years of insulin resistance in the muscle. And so the cellular function is so bad that the sugar all is pushed back out on the bloodstream. Now you have elevated sugars. And it's like, you know, so you're having to use more insulin or get more insulin, you or put into the system in order to counteract the sugar in the blood at that point.

Is that what you're talking about? It takes more to get the same effect? Yeah, because what happens is the cells aren't working. So with the body cells, the brain cells, the body, like, hey, we need more insulin. Hey, we need more insulin. Hey, we need more insulin. So by the time it all gets clogged up in the cells, the cells aren't receiving the glucagon for energy, now the stuff just gets bounced back out into the bloodstream and it starts doing damage, right?

And so then you become a full-bone type 2, diabetic type 3. Got it. So we have to fix the cells and fix the insur resistance before we're going to fix the diabetes. And so our education focuses on just that, cellular dysfunction. you know, how do you eat right and exercise and drink and eat more fiber, more fruits, all those things to get rid of the instant resistance. When it's resistance to fix and the cells are cleaned out, they start functioning right. Well, guess what?

Not just diabetes, but all chronic disease go away. Even though our app is focused on diabetes because that's our passion, because we love the diabetics, it's really a lifestyle app for everyone because it fixes all chronic disease. So you're not having high blood pressure, lipidemia, diabetes, you know, heart attack, stroke issue. I mean, all those chronic states. But there's a lot, I mean, a great amount of chronic disease that Americans suffer then that is essentially triggered by either diabetic or pre-diabetic kind of conditions in the rising tide of insulin resistance.

Is that a fair assessment of what we're dealing? And that's kind of why RFK Jr. is so focused on this. Yeah. Well, it's not just correct. It's 190% correct. We are a chronic disease country because we are not looking at the basics of what our health really is. And, you know, and there's no such thing as pre-dibees, by the way. You're not pre-pregnant.

That's something they came up. That's something they came up with. I don't know who came up with it. I know I think, you know, the corporate is big pharma. I mean, they have to call name, some kind of name. but in you're a pre-diabetic state because as they want to call free diabetes and scientifically that's what we call you're already doing damage to your body yeah yeah what is the a1c that's another number that gets talked about and you know the doctor will say hey

you know it's looking uh you know a little weird supposedly that's what i see i and i'm not a doctor tim okay i'm sorry i'm not as is as into this as some others would be i read a bit about it. But they say, oh, your A1C's are high, and we'd like to get you on Jardians. There are some other, you know, some other diabetes treatment medicine. And, of course, they kind of be pretty pricey, you know, too, for that matter. Yeah, well, A1C, you know, basically is a longer standing level of your blood sugar. So basically, it's a, so guess what? Well, a diabetic comes into us, and they say, oh, they've been really good on my sugar. My sugars have been normal for the last two months.

And we take their test right there, and they say, okay, well, that's great. And then we do an A1C. A1C is a recording of your sugar over a three-month period. Ah, it's a history, then. It's a history deal. Yeah. Okay. All right.

That's why that's so important. Okay, I've always wondered, but, you know, the doctors will always sit there and harp on something like that when you get some blood work done. and A1C looking good or A1C not looking so good. It's not just a taking of your blood sugar at that time or a fasting blood sugar. It's just trying to get an overall history of it, which gives you a better idea how your body's reacting or not reacting well. Is that it? 100%. Got it.

So let's give you an example. So if somebody has a A1C, what's called a pre-diabetes, right, because you bought it up, I told you my feeling about it. it, but 5.7 to 6.4 is what they call pre-diabetes. Anything 5-7 and under, they say you're in range, which means you're not a diabetic. Okay. I think you've got to be 5-4 and under, but that's my own personal feeling on it. Anything over 5-7 and up is 5-7-6-4 is a pre-diabetic. Anything that's 6-4 and older now is considered diet, full-diabetic.

So if you are carrying an A1C between 117 and 137 is the range of pre-diabetes, anything over that is considered diabetic. A1C will tell us, Bill, that, hey, you've had an A1C carrying around 160 for the last three months. So whatever you came in this morning with that false sugar, because diabetics will do this, they'll, they know their triggers, they'll do something to kind of, to get their sugars down lower before they come in for a doctor's visit. They're pretty tricky. Well, you know, you want to pass the test, right? You want to pass the test, right? It's human nature. Yeah, I'm doing great until we think they're A1C. And we say, yeah, well, not doing too great here. So that's one in A1's B is. It's a three-month standing test of where your sugar is averaged that. Interesting. Okay. So this is why that's so important.

important. I'll pay more attention to that next time I get some blood work done, okay? I really appreciate that. So, Tim, back then to the SNAP benefits, because that's one of the reasons I want to talk with you about this. There are a number of states that are now getting waivers from the federal government, and they are starting to say, in fact, let's see, West Virginia, Florida, Colorado, Louisiana, Oklahoma, and Texas are the latest ones. Newsmax was reporting this the other day. They will be allowed to redefine what qualified. as a snap-approved food item, which means that they could then say, all right, you're not going to go out there and load up on Coca-Cola and Pepsi and Mountain Dew and Moon Pies. Is that kind of the take on it?

You think it's a good idea, I would imagine. I think it's a great idea. And you know what I also think, I think that we should, ironically, because it's where I'm passionate, why don't we get some of these people in nutrition training before they can. apply for the benefit, why don't we sit them down in a chair and, you know, mandatory watch, you know, three, four hours, not at one time, but overtime, some nutrition training and education on nutrition, so that these people, and not just nutrition training, but what can happen with these processed bad foods, so that these people that are feeding their children,

especially, you know, these adults, they don't want to make changes for themselves, at least for their children and their future grandchildren, you know, generations of how to eat nutrition correctly and not as junk food and processed food or putting in your bodies, then give them the benefit because now we're doing a little bit of nutrition training with these people. Do you really think that people don't know how to eat? Because I'm not convinced that they don't know how to eat. I don't we tend to know that the crap in a box that passes for an instant meal a lot

of times is probably not as good as making something yourself. health out of some good ingredients? I know for a 100% fact that these people don't know how to eat. Really? Yeah, we have hundreds of people come in our center, you know, for different demographics, East Tennessee, you know, San Antonio, West Palm, Florida. These people do have no clue. Of course, everybody knows an apple's healthy, right?

They have no clue what healthy food is. They don't know what nutrition is about. They grew up in a process. this world and system in their families and their childhoods and, you know, hey, that stuff is very addictive. You know, sugar's more addicting than cocaine, right? So they've discovered that processed sugar has an addictive appetite to it that's more addicting than cocaine.

It's in everything. Processed sugar is in everything. You wonder why people, you know, love, you know, all cracking a bag of kicks or some cheetos or why they love the Mountain Dew and the sweet tea. I mean, this stuff has a very. addicting appetite to it. So on top of not knowing a lot about nutrition, you have the addictive side of this stuff as well. Is it being overly paternalistic, though, for the government to be sitting there and saying, well, you know, I know we got these benefits and you may not

know how to eat, but it's not really our place to micromanage your diet. What would you say to that people who would say this? Because every time, now that they're talking about restricting SNAP benefits in some states, this is coming out. It's almost like a civil libertarian take on it. What do you think? We absolutely have the right. As taxpayers, don't worry about how people are spending our money on their food. Okay, we're paying for that food. Every taxpayer in the United States. And, you know, I call it the, you know, the system where, you know, everybody, you know, basically has an internal savings account because 10% of the people in America are paying a taxes for 90% of them. everybody's getting back tax returns at the end of the year, and they're going out and blowing that on stupid stuff.

I mean, I think we need to get back to some basics and some realism here that you are responsible for your health. Because guess what? Now, the food is an issue when you don't take care of yourself, and now you're, you know, in the retirement, Medicare age, Medicare Part B plans are getting broke all over the country because now you're sick because you haven't taken care of your health when you're young and, you know, eating all the crap food and drinking everything. And now we're willing to do we pay for your food.

Now we're still paying for your food, and now we're paying for your illness that the food is creating. So I think we have 100% right to be invasive on restrictions on diet. All right. One thing I wanted to touch on Tim. Tim Keller, by the way, is with me. He's a health care and lifestyle analyst founder of U.S. Diabetes Care. It's a health education company. There's an app on this, and we'll put all the way.

that information up on KMAD.com. Is there, the only problem I think I have with maybe the way we talk about food and health in the United States is that I'm not convinced that we're all the same in the way we react and process food. It's like you already see some people right now, Tim, you know it. There's the one kid that can eat absolutely everything and anything and is thin as a rail and there's the other person who sniffs the cork on a bottle of wine and gains 10 pounds. You know that, right?

You've seen these type of people. Is there a one-style-fit rule for all, though, in your opinion? Yeah, I grew up with those kids. I mean, I wasn't a kid. I was always not heavy, but I played college football, so I wasn't a small guy. But anyhow, there isn't a one-two-fits-all. metabolic, the yachts designed differently. Everybody has different metabolic triggers.

I can tell you that kid that can eat anything that stays skinny in the rail, when they are adult, it changes. Yeah. If they end up. That's true. I know one of those adults, and as he got older, he got heavier then. It kicked in. Yeah.

So guess what? There's no, there's no cure for insulin resistance for metabolic disorder unless you do the things that cure it. We sure know that, we still know that for everybody, these, These junk foods, these processed oils, et cetera, et cetera, are bad inflammatory and cause problems eventually. We're starting to learn more about that. Let me touch on American farming practices. And I would appreciate your opinion on this one.

I was reading a Substack from a Midwestern doctor. I don't know if you know about this person on Substack is an interesting medical MD. And they were talking about on this blog how metabolic syndrome is undone. known in Italy, and yet they eat tons and tons and tons of pasta, lots of flour, lots of Durham wheat, you know, that they grow. But the difference is that wheat grown in the United States, usually genetically modified, and also when it's harvested, it's harvested with glyphosate, roundup sprayed on it many times to dry it in the harvest process, while over in Italy they're using older, more

ancient styles of wheat grain, and they eat pasta all the time. And do we not only have to make America healthy again, but also taking a look at farming methods and how we actually grow our food? Any thoughts on that? I thought it was an interesting statement from that, doctor. Well, I have tons of thoughts on that, and we have a lot of chemical poisons in our processing of food. So we took the wheat, which is a natural wheat, and we hydrolyzed the wheat, which makes it a double yield, right? It double yields a wheat, so they get more wheat out of the harvest.

It's poison, right? And so we're over here throwing poison on, you know, good things. So now we process it more, bleach it. So because everybody loves the look of white bread. Sure. You go over in Italy, and the bread's yellow. I mean, it's not white. Oh, really?

Bread's yellow. Bread's yellow in Italy, huh? Okay. Yeah. Yeah, so it's like a yellowish color. It's not like pure white bread like we have here, bleach. You know, my wife's from the Philippines. As you go over there, the bread's like a yellowish color.

It's not bleached white flour that they're using. It's a lot more healthy for you. I can go over there and eat, you know, they call panacealt. The breakfast bread is delicious with coffee. I can eat five pieces of that and it doesn't do anything to me. If I ate five pieces of any kind of roll here, you know, my sugar spiked to the roof. No, my body doesn't respond well to white. So that's kind of confirming then what the Midwestern doctor was talking about on Substack here.

100%. Yeah. 100%. All right. Well, we got a lot of work here, Tim. I appreciate that. And thanks for joining me. What's your website again so people can check this out, download the app or whatever it is, and work it up?

U.S. Diabetescare.com. U.S. diabetes care.com. Tim, I appreciate the talk. Good, kicking it around. and keep your sugars under control, okay? We'll talk soon. All right, buddy.

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