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Episode Date: August 19, 2025

Wild Horse Fire Brigade Capt. William E Simpson discusses Klamath Dam Removal problems still here with wildlife collapse post dam removal, Network In Actions Lisa McClease Kelly on Open for business, Brian Bouteller from Gospel Rescue Mission.

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With other people's money Really good, okay I appreciate your take too The email bill at Bill Maher's show.com We'll have some more of those Also a diner 62 coming up a little bit later Near the end of the show Captain Bill Simpson will join me

And he's kind of putting them a lie To all the happy talk talking about all the species restoration now that the Klamath dams have been blown up and moved away. Now, the latest on that coming up, we got news and Kim Cavando's digital update and a bunch more. All coming up. Hi, it's John at Wellburn's weapons. The only thing better than shooting is shooting with a suppressor. Wellburn's is...

Get up to four extra months of ExpressVPN for free right now at ExpressVPN.com slash... Hear KMED and Krantz Pass on 1059, K290, A.F. Rogue River in South Jackson County on 1067 K-294-A-S. Ashland. We now go to south of the border to Captain William E. Simpson's wildlife bunker. How you doing, Captain Bill? Great to have you back. Good to have you on the show. Good morning. Good morning. Thank you. Yep. And by the way, if you don't know who Captain William E. Simpson is, we've had him on the program several times. And he is the chief cook and bottle washer and wild horse carer. In fact, you're a horse servant, aren't you? Wild Horse Fire Brigade on that?

Yeah, that's correct. I'm the executive director of our all-volunteer nonprofit, and the horses have been very effective in reducing the fire fuel in this area, and we would like to see jobs given to the horses that are currently incarcerated by the U.S. government and costing taxpayers $150 million a year to feed them hay when they could be out here doing what they normally do, which is reduced fire fuel. Yeah, it's been a long pot for you trying to get a little more use and a little more work out of the wild horses. So it's less of it expensive, but I admire your dedication to moving forward on this. I wanted to touch us something. Another conversation that we haven't had much conversation about this for a while was the removal of the Klamath River Dam system. And, of course, it is being portrayed in the conventional media as a bunch of happy talk. And, oh, look, we had the magic fish that made it up through the amazing muck that was being flushed down the river. And we found it up in here.

And I've had my suspicions about it, but, you know, maybe it really is so okay. But you end up putting out this article on syskew.new. About a collapse in wildlife populations. Now, I know you've paid attention to a lot of this for a long time. I'm warning if you could break down the later. and I guess there was a rescue of an Osprey. Was it you that did this or somebody else? Tell me more about it.

Yeah. Yeah. So just so the audience understands, I live, my ranch is on the Klamath River. So I'm not a remote viewer. I'm not somebody who gets my information from third parties. I live in the river. I see it every day, all day. And I used to be a commercial fisherman.

So going through college, I commercial fished for salmon. And so I do understand the fishery, and I was trained in science. So, yeah, so what's happening up here is, and by the way, the areas in Camp Creek and in Jenny Creek, which were ceded by helicopter at great expense to taxpayers in Oregon and California. By the way, Oregon and California taxpayers are paying for the overages now and the restoration that's going to continue probably for decades. Now, is Klamath River Renewal Corporation, is it out of money to your knowledge or not? Do we know? Are they out? Well, they're not paying anybody out of the mitigation fund as far as I know. So, I mean, nobody, everybody, we have more, more wells going dry up in here.

One of my neighbors down the road now, an iron gate of states, their well went dry. And, I mean, and, you know, it's $40,000 to or more. You know, some wells are $50,000, $80,000, because you You've got to go down four, five, six hundred feet, depending on where you are. And you're by a river. And you're by a river, right? Right. Yeah, the river geology and the lake hydrology were critical with regard to water in the alluvium in this area. You know, and so, yeah, people are in the cold right now. The mitigation doesn't even answer certified letters.

You need those KRC. You know, they're just, they're just, they went to ground because everything. turning to crap. I mean, there's a long list of failures in Nossaman. I sent you the Nossaman legal letter, the county, and Nossaman, by the way, is an environmental law firm. They tend to be looking out for any ways to protect land, forest, wildlife, and, you know, that's what they do for a living. And the county employed them over, you know, knowing that this is going to happen. I mean, how do you stand in front of Godzilla when it's coming at you? And, you know, It was such a huge agenda.

It was a hurry up and blow up the dams. Okay, now that nobody can really stop it right now, it was a hurry, take the money, blow it up, and get out of town kind of thing? Or is it... Well, yeah, look at the very onset of this thing. I mean, the Department of Interior hired one of the most brilliant scientists in America, Dr. Paul Hauser. I mean, he, you know, he's a, he is a extraplanetary hydrologist. I mean, this guy worked for Goddard Space Center. He's the one to determine how much water is on Mars.

I mean, this guy, you know, I think he's got two or three PhDs. And they hired him to be the scientific integrity officer way back in, I think it was 2011 or something. And this was about the dam removal questions being fostered then or fielded then at that time? Right. Well, what happened is, is they, you know, this was being. you know, socialized in Washington, you know, and all the big corporations that were involved, we're going, yeah, and, of course, Warren Buffett has his finger in the pie. Because all Warren Buffett needed to care about was that he wanted the liability of the

damn system, from what I understand, off of the books of Pacific Corp, right? That was the bottom line. No, I don't think that's all of it. You know? You remember, he was nicking great payers for a whole decade. what the numbers that I heard was he collected 450 million for dam removal off rate payers and then he course he's good at investing so according to the people I talked to that might be 800 million after you know money gained on investment oh so he was still able to take the

450 million from the ratepayers give it to krrc and various other groups like that but then keep the investment income is that what you're going to hear you're looking at no no no no no no no no nope you missed it again okay all right Sorry. All right. School me, Obi-Wan. Okay? Tell me what really happened.

All right. Okay. So, you know, here's what's going on here. He's a smart guy. He got all this money. He invested it to turn into a bigger pile of money. And then he got California and Oregon to pay for the lion's share of this map. Oh.

So we're charged on our power bill, $450 million, but then we pay twice because the state of Oregon is then on the hook and the state of California. Right. Yeah, he only had the pony up, if I recall correctly, $200 million of all that money he got. And then also he lost liability. He shoveled that on to Oregon ratepayers because FERC, and their order and decision, said that Oregon and California will bear all costs, including cost of liability for this mess. So now, and whatever happened in no taxation without representation, I mean, this country was founded on a thing called the United States. Constitution and the premises that, you know, there is not going to be taxation of, you know, I mean, Herman's talking about taxes, you know, we all need to go back and remember, you know,

this country was founded on the idea that no taxation without representation, and that has completely evaporated, and now we have a government that's for the government, by the government, and of the government, and screw the people. And that's the problem today. We've got to get a grip on So these guys did the bums rush here and decimated the river. And when you read that Nossaman letter, talks about the violations of their EIS and the remedies that the county was seeking. And they just basically gave us the finger on all of that. Nossaman, as far as I know, there was no follow-up because the county just doesn't have the money to fight these people, and they know it. Well, the other aspect, too, is that the people who were hurt by this are generally lower.

income and poor people, too, living along the river, wouldn't you agree? Isn't that part of the issue here? Well, everybody, yeah, starting with them. I mean, everybody that retired back here in the 40s and 50s and 60s bought Lakefront property, now they have mud front property in the winter, and in the summer they have dust front property and a dock that goes to a dustbin. You know, I mean, and then you look at what they've done, you know, they were moaning and groaning and coming up with all kinds of reasons why, for instance, the horses, they said, you know, our herd of horses and the livestock were a problem down here, they said, oh, they're impacting

our revegetation process. Well, guess what? The areas that, where the horses were, and I have photos, I could prove this in a court of law all day long, was the most robot revegetation occurred where the horse is great, most robots. Well, you had talked about how the horses will actually reseed the area because of their stomach design. We've talked about that before, right? Yeah, yeah. And not only that, see, their droppings are basically humid. So it improves the quality of the soil.

But guess what they're doing now? All those areas that they spend all that money with that big, the Cicorsky helicopter dump and seed everywhere, they're digging it all up. They dug it all up. Really? Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on. This is something new. I haven't heard this before.

So Captain William E. Simpson with me once again. ethnologist from Northern California. So KRRC or a contractor involved with the Klamath River Restoration here takes the Sikorsky and they are seeding this area with seeds and did it fail or why would they be digging it up? This does not, this makes absolutely no sense to me because the whole idea is they wanted to plant something on top of all this. Right. Well, you need, everybody needs to come take a little drive down Copco Road and check out Camp Creek.

and Jenny Creek. What they did is they seeded that area and it failed. It just failed. And Jim Smith, our eye commissioner said, hey, it's not going to, he's in public testimony, he says, you're not going to make it work there. And that's exactly what happened. And then they realized that they did, I did a couple stories of Siskue News. They're out there with a great big excavator digging down through the sediment. They found out how deep it was. And there was a big cliff down into where the creeks were because the sediment was so deep that when they were, that when they took the lakes down, the creeks carved in, the creek was down in a big groove, you know, in some places, 20 feet deep.

And, you, I mean, it was terrible. And now, after they seeded it, I mean, this is really. Now, why did it, why did the seeding fail, Captain Bill? Was it just poor quality soil there at the top, or is it maybe just lack of water where the creek is now? Well, it's an aggregate of thing. of all, seeds distributed on the surface, you have a very low rate of germination because the wind blows them around, the sun, you know, the ultraviolet, the sun cooks them, the birds grab them.

Okay. You know, they can't root. There's not much water. There's no irrigation. And the soil is crap because it's 80% clay, it's alkaline. So there's a whole list of things why, you know, that was a really dumb approach. And then, I mean, I, you know, I talked to, the RES is in charge of this ridiculous mess here. and then that's Resource Environmental Services from Texas.

They think they know about Oregon. They come up here from Texas. And instead of asking us, like Jim Smith, our eye commissioner, who knows. Yeah, yeah, your own ad commissioner knew those seeds weren't going to grow there. Fascinating, but that didn't matter. Okay. It didn't matter. Local.

And by the way, and by the way, you know, and no, you know, I have Native Americans in my family. The thing is this, okay, no disrespect to the indigenous peoples. You know, I cite Viovet running horse Colin all the time because she's the one that, in her dissertation, talks about our local ancestral herd of heritage horses here. So, you know, I cite that science, the indigenous science, but there's no shaft of people living here anymore. You know, we are the white indigenous now. I mean, we're the ones here on the ground. And you'd think they'd come ask us, but no, they go all the way down to the mouth of the river and bring the Uruk up here. This isn't their land.

They don't know anything about this land. They're basically an invasive species up here. You know, they're not from here. Now you're in trouble there, Captain Bill. No, we're not. They are not from here. They live down. No, I know.

I get that, though, when you talk about invasive species there. You can't talk about humans as invasive species. Only white humans. Only white humans can be an invasive species. Come on, pale face. Get with it. Anyway, but the thing is now, okay, we look at what's happened in these areas. is they've seeded a complete failure.

Now they're having to dig the whole thing out. After all of that hullabaloo, they went down whining to the San Francisco Chronicle. Oh, they had a headline. Horses romping all over the dam removal re-vegetation project. Well, then they dig the whole damn thing up because they found out the sediments 20 feet deep, like we told them. Yeah. And they're going, well, we've got to do something with the sediments. So now they have classifiers up here.

They've got big piles of rocks and dirt. And it looks like a motorcross track. there at Camp Creek. They got roads all over the place, all over that where they seated. They got big dozers. They got... In other words, Bill, what you're telling me, though, is that we are now in the excuse-making portion of the so-called restoration of the Klamath, right? Restoration. We're in the excuse-making stage of why it's not working. Yeah, we have passed that. And then on top of that, The decimation in the wildlife up here has been an ongoing, I mean, it's an ongoing train wreck.

You know, first, they were supposed to fence off the area, the shore of the lake, before they let the water down. They didn't do that. They were supposed to put alternative water for livestock and for wildlife. They didn't do that. They fenced up to the road. They put, instead of a temporary fence, they put a permanent fence. They fenced too late. The remaining few deer that we had ended up in the mud, sinking down in the quicksand, dying.

elk. Lots of photos of that. They sat there in front of public testimony up at Copco when we had a board meeting up there with Sisku County Board of Supervisors, and they stood up in like Michael Harrison, the Department of Fish and Wildlife, we talk people, well, we might have fishes earlier as next year. Yeah, right. You know, I mean, talk about tongue and cheek, and then you look at what's going on up here. The road is decimated. It looks like a bombed out road from Bosnia for crying out loud. Okay, so where are we going to go at this point? Because you're painting a pretty tough picture.

This is the picture you predicted was going to come, too. And this is the reason why I think it's good to stay in touch with you because you live on it. What is going to come next out of this, do you think, Captain Simpson? I think that these folks need to humble themselves and sit down with the people who live here and our county officials who'd understand this area and say, look, you know, here's what going on? You know, this failed, this failed. I mean, you look at what happened, for instance, when they were letting the water out of the dam. Okay, there's evidence in other areas where they have, you know, these earth-filled dams where when you let the water out too fast, it causes

hydrolyking, you know, this hydraulic vibration and the dams collapsed. So they put this big tube in the, in the tunnel, a big plastic tube, it was UHMW, is two foot in diameter, I have a piece a two-foot, two-inch thick wall, UHMW tube that was two foot in diameter, and it was like 300-some feet long in the tunnel underneath the dam. And that was to prevent cavitation, hydraulics, and resonance. Well, okay, so everything these guys have done has been a complete disaster. I mean, that tube was supposed to be in the tunnel during the time they were draining the lake to prevent the dam from shaking and creating a problem.

Well, what ended up happening is they opened the gate, the tunnel under the dam, which you, you know, that was for extreme service situations if you had to drain the lake. And because the tube into the turbine is only 20 feet deep, I think it was. So it's not near the bottom like that tunnel underneath the dam. So they raised this big steel gate up with a big hydraulic ram and opened it and they had that plastic in there. Well, it was improperly designed. The plastic tube blew right out. 350 feet, and this stuff weighs time. Just pop right out, huh? Okay. It blew right out, and then, and I had people that were friends that were up there right at the tower,

and there's this big hydraulic ram and this whole operation that lowers and raises big steel gate to close and open the tunnel. The arm on that ram was vibrating so hard because the resonance began, just like in those other dam. Yeah, it started shaking with the water flow. Now, weren't you the person that was warning, among many, that were warning that Klamath, River, the KRRC, the KRRC group, was just a shell corporation created to take the money, but had no experience, no experience in actually removing dams, but this was just their passion, essentially their passion. Wasn't that what you were saying back then?

Yeah, this is correct. The history shows that they were formed in a New York City office, the lawyer's office, and then a couple years later, incorporated in Berkeley, California. They've never made any or provided any service or product ever. they're just a general contractor shell corporation that all these other companies work underneath to provide liability firewalls for these companies because you know these companies are all like going wow we get in there and you know this is a big experiment if it goes wrong we don't want to get sued yeah so they have them and so well well now the taxpayers have to pay it so it's no big deal they're

not worried about being sued the taxpayers will be sued over time okay well yeah yeah when kRS full shot. I mean, they are nonprofit. They can just file bankruptcy, and then, and that's what Perks said in their order and decision. If this thing goes sideways, Oregon and California pay for all liabilities. Well, that's okay. Oregon just has all the money in the world. Talk to our state legislature going into a session later this month. Captain Bill, I'll tell you what, so thanks for the update. So there's no better news on the wildlife side of things, but let me end it on a positive note here, okay? I appreciate your reporting. I want to link to your latest articles on all of this right now that you have presented.

But how can people come and see your wild horses? Can they come see your wild horses and see what you've been doing with them? Is there any way to do that? Well, we're not a tourist destination. I know. What can people do is they can come to the lazy horse RV park, which is down the road, and some of our herd visits that park regularly. So they can pull their RV there.

There's horses in the park. Okay, they've been going there for decades. and they can actually, you were down there, remember we were down there filming? Yeah, I was telling them when you were doing that documentary. Yeah, you bet. Yeah, right, yeah. So people can enjoy them from the comfort of their RV or their travel trailer or whatever, and then they can also drive up the road and see what's going on.

I mean, it is quite interesting to see the world's largest experiment going sideways here. Because, you know. That's not the way it's being portrayed in the conventional media, though. It's all happy. It's happy talk. There's some good news. I mean, there's good people that still live here that love this. I mean, we live here because we love it.

And we've been the stewards of this area, including the horses, which stopped that, help Cal Fire stop that wildfire. I mean, you can hire 10,000 firefighters and buy 10,000 more helicopters, and that doesn't change the prevention of fire. It just deals with what happens after you got a big fire. I agree with you that ultimately we're going to have to get those, you know, those grasses chew down because that is really, One of our biggest dangers that we're still facing these days, all right?

Prevention is everything, and that saves lives, money. It saves firefighters' lives. Okay. And, you know, all of that. So, and taxpayer money. So, but, yeah, we did save this little Osprey the other night. It was a nine at night to answer your earlier question. I was driving down the road.

It was dark. And a little tiny silhouette standing in the middle of the road. And I stopped and pulled over, put on my flashers. and I get out, there's this little fledgling Ospre, and he was too weak to fly. I think all the nests are abandoned up here. There's very few birds left of the raptors are pretty much wiped out the eagles. We used to have golden eagles, bald eagles everywhere. It's an amazing place to be.

They're gone. They're all gone. Well, it's because the water supply and the ecosystem that that area was relying on is gone now, right? Yeah, the fish, yeah. I mean, there's no food, and what happens? So this little guy, you know, I walked off. to them, and Ospreys will click at each other. They make a little clicking sound

when they talk, and I kind of mimic that a little bit, and he clicked back at me. So I said, okay, so I went and I drooped, I had a sheet in the truck, and I drooped a sheet over them, which calms the Raptor, you cover their eyes, they calm down. Got him in the truck, called

a rescue, and we ended up working with a really great, there's stars out there in the California Department of Fish and Wildlife, Jacob Nicholas is one of those stars that, you know, the guy really loved his job in wildlife. I mean, he's in it because he loves wildlife. And he drove up from Anderson, California, and we were able to, Michelle and I were able to feed him a little bit of salmon.

We had some of that great Copper River salmon raw, raw, got him to eat a little bit of salmon, got him to take a little bit of water. And then we transferred him the following day to Lieutenant Nicholas, who was with Cal Fish and, Wildlife. And it worked out really good because he brought him down to the Shasta Wildlife Rescue in Anderson. But that guy drove six hours to save this little bird. And you know what? That shows the dedication to some of these guys have. I mean, there's some really good people out there. It's just, unfortunately, the people that are up top with the money and the budget focus more on money instead of on what's important for the, you know, on the ground. Yeah, what's important on the ground. And that's why the good people are.

trying to fill in the breach. Bill, I appreciate the take-out. I'm going to link to all that, and thanks so much for joining us from wild horse fire brigade.org. That is your main website, and we'll have you back, and hopefully we'll actually see some real restoration sooner rather than later, okay? Got a roll. I'd love to see that. Okay. Thank you, Bill. Captain William E. Simpson. This is the Bill Meyer show. Are you turning 65 and entering Medicare this year? The details can be confusing, and it's easy to miss important facts or get stuck with a late fee. Come see me well ahead of your birthday, so you can make sure you understand.

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Brother Brad Bennington. Hello, brother. What's going on this morning here? Bill, good morning. You know, great, great discussion with Captain Bill Simpson. Thank you. His ranch is right next to my grandfather's place. Part of the land that the Iron Gate Dan was built on was sold to Copco by my grandmother. So some of those horses that he takes care of probably were raised by my grandfather probably 100 years ago. No kidding. Probably descendants of, yeah, my grandfather was a horse rancher.

His biggest customer was the U.S. Army, believe it or not. I could believe that. Sure, I could back at the time. That was transport in those days, right? It was everything. They were transportation. They were farming. They're such a useful animal.

But what he says about the devastation is absolutely right. I still have family that lived down there. And the thing that people don't understand is when you take single species preservation policy, what you're really saying is we are willing to destroy all of the other species in this ecosystem for the sake of improving numbers on this one animal. And you're referencing the salmon, right? You know, there's this single focus on one species and to the detriment of every other species that is around that neighborhood, right?

Right. So all these raptors, they don't have any food to eat anymore. All the crawdads are gone. All the snakes are gone. All this. I mean, all of the millions, maybe billions of creatures that used to exist in this hydro ecosystem are now gone. Oh, but Brad, remember, the river is running free now. That's all that mattered. Well, yeah, so that the Californians can paddle their wraps made out of petroleum products with paddles that are made out of petroleum products so they can wear their life vests, which are made out of petroleum products, and take pictures and take selfies of themselves. Right. I see, ye of such little environmental faith.

Now, you know, I'm teasing you. I know. I know. But what Bill is saying, which is the absolute truth is, people, if they knew, if they could be schooled, really get the facts on how many millions of other creatures have been sacrifice on the altar of single species policy, it would literally make them sick. Nobody is telling that story, though, because it's not the story that anybody wants to tell. All right.

I'm glad you're telling it. Thank you very much, Brad. Let me grab a couple more calls here before open for business. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome. This is Minor Dave, and now you've brought up another subject that's really a pet peeve. But I wanted to say first about EBT.

This happened years ago when I lived in Oregon. I was going through food for less, and I bought, I was buying meat, you know, fermented vegetables, fresh vegetables, potatoes. And I had a guy go off on me because I was buying meat with EVP, and it was at Thunderbird. And, you know, they had to threaten him to leave me alone where they were going to ban him from the store. Well, the thing is, you were buying meat, which is actually, now, maybe he was saying, you're buying steak, and I'm having to buy a hamburger, right? Right, but hamburger costs more than steak. Sometimes it does. You have to pay on what you're buying. Now, with Captain Bill, this is touchy because they got, like few road closed. The only way out is through Heather and the back

way out, and we had a fire in here called the Heather fire. Now, it started on the neighbor's ranch and it was moving uh it moved away from us but uh we were lucky because if that would have burnt uh burnt we'd have no way out all right hey appreciate the call thanks for let me know i'm glad you're okay one more i don't have much time but go ahead and give me a quickie who's this hey hey bill this is wayne yeah way go ahead yeah i was listening to your bear chigger story and uh i think the the town forms you have the same decorum as a courtroom I would agree. Can you imagine those protesters doing that and what the judge would do?

Oh, exactly, exactly. I don't believe there is anything, because what's happening there is that you essentially have rabble doing a prior restraint on other people's ability to have free speech. It's like you want to come in there and talk to your representative, petition your government, and then you have other people that are shutting you down. And it's like everything will bounce. society is that we do have rules and decorum. If you can't, if you can't deal with some kind of decorum, I think they should be able to be removed from a public meeting. That's just my opinion. I agree. It's like they be removed from a courtroom. Right. Point well taken. Thanks for the call. I know some would be upset about that. We will continue, though. This is the Bill

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And do close up in HD. Okay. Just what I want. I know. Just having fun with you. But, hey, tell us a little bit about network and action. this morning and maybe some activities you have coming up because I know this is a, you know, you're out here getting local businesses all connected with one another, but with a purpose.

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You have to figure out if it's a good fit. Right. Yeah. Well, there's no sense taking their money if I don't think I can help them. So, yes, everything's an interview process. And right now we are looking for a real estate agent in our Medford group, a mortgage broker in our Medford group, and then a mortgage broker in our Christian group. All right. How can they find out more and get in direct contact with you?

Best way to find out. S-O-networking.com. S-O-networking. So-networking. Yes. It stands for Southern Oregon networking. Southern Oregon. Yep, we get that here. Now, you ended up bringing in a gentleman. I've really admired a lot. I've talked to him off and on over the years. And I finally get a chance to meet him in person, rather.

And then as Brian Bouteller, and he is the executive director of the Grants Pass Gospel Rescue Mission. How you do, Brian? I'm great. I'm great. Thanks for having this morning. Now, you're, I'm assuming a member here? I am. I'm an NIA member in Grants Pass. Okay.

Yeah. Tell me a little bit about your experience in what you have found so valuable about this networking and action. Well, I mean, first of all, you just get to, you just get to collaborate with other folks in business and kind of share your vision. And, I mean, it was a collaboration that we did that caused us to come up with the product that I'm sharing with you today. It was a complete networking collaboration with another member, and it was fantastic. Okay. And in this particular case, it's about helping the gospel rescue mission? Correct, correct, yeah.

Okay, I'm going to hold this up to the Facebook live camera. And is this product available? This product is available right now in our second chance thrift stores on 16. and J Street and Booth and Foundry Street and at Tailhole Coffee. All right. Oh, and Rogue River. And Roe River. Okay, very good.

It's Gospel Rescue Mission. It's Homeless Joe Coffee. I kind of chuckled when I saw this, but there's a real purpose behind what you're trying to do because you're, of course, with Gospel Rescue Mission, everything's about trying to get homeless people off the streets, getting them productive. Maybe getting a purpose, I guess, would be a good way of putting it. Yeah, I mean, one in three people that actually walk through our door. and enter our program will find their way out with a sustainable income and a home.

And, I mean, one in three, that's a pretty whopping number. Something tells me that's more or more successful than what we're seeing in the regular state mandated programs. Would that be fair? Yeah, I think it's, I think it's really fair. I think what you'll find in the state mandated programs is that they won't give you numbers. And they won't give you numbers, not because they don't keep them, but because their numbers aren't that good. And we like to share what we do. And the great thing about this, about this was the networking opportunity with networking in action. I'm sitting there across from Jay Chick

from Tailholt and we say, hey, how can we do something together and collaborate? Is he roasting this then? So it's not, he's not the roaster. He doesn't roast his own coffee. So this is coming from a company out of Washington that roasts the coffee for him and now is roasting coffee, to his respects. Okay. And now is roasting a cup of coffee for us to ours. And it's homeless Joe. Okay. And is like a profit from this going up going into the gospel rescue? Correct. So, so, um, five dollars from every bag just goes to help support the gospel rescue mission. And, um, and five dollars is, five dollars is like three hot meals. It's, uh, during, during the day. It's a, it's a, it's a, a night stay in a bed it's it's a sober night and a clean shower and and maybe a change of clothes so you know you can

get coffee anywhere and and we all do i mean we're we're southern oregon right but uh getting coffee anywhere and and doing you know you're putting money in somebody's pocket versus having a good cup of coffee and enjoying that you're not just enjoying coffee but you're actually giving hope to somebody and and a shot of getting off of the streets i'm just I'm just so pleased with what you're doing, and I know that I've talked to you recently about the elder housing that you're constructing for it, because this is a big thing. I know Chad McComas in Jackson County has been working this same angle, too, about getting homeless elderly, which is, unfortunately, a growing presence. Correct, correct. I mean, our baby boomers are, you know, starting to age out, and those that haven't figured out that it's dang near impossible to survive on Social Security.

will at some point in time or another, and as they start finding themselves, a lot of them find themselves trying to live out of a car, trying to, maybe even attempting to stay in a tent camp or something in our communities. And it's just terrifying for them. You get $900,000 a month on an older, lower income, social security pay. What do you get in Southern Oregon? Yeah, you can barely afford to be poor. And it's just, terrifying for them. So when they come into the mission, we're trying to help them find a way out. The problem is that they end up kind of stacking up in the mission because we're still trying to, we're still struggling to get them into housing of some kind. And so this is our first shot

across the bow of going, you know, what can we do to actually mitigate that, to actually solve this problem, create some housing that's affordable, that is permanently affordable for. them for the rest of their days. Brian Bauteller, once again, from the Grants Pass, gospel rescue mission. He's the executive director there. Homeless Joe coffee available, fundraiser, not only great coffee, but a fundraiser for you, available

with Tailhold coffee. A tailholt. Second Chance thrift stores will be available on our website, probably in the next two weeks. That's great. I am so glad you're in networking and action, and thanks for the report on that. And Lisa, this is what this is all about. He's sitting across one of your members

and say, hey, I got coffee. Right? Right. So if you're a business owner and you're drinking coffee, why not drink homeless Joe coffee? One, you can serve your clients great coffee. And secondly, you can help somebody out. All right, very good. And once again, s o networking.com. You can talk with Lisa McLeese-Kelly and see how this would end up working for you. Network and action. Thanks for being on Open for Business. Thank you. Thank you, Brian. Thank you, Lisa. All right. Now then, diner 62 real American quiz. After all this, we're going to feed you. Okay. Great question today. If you haven't won this in the last 60 days, give it a shot.

770563-7-0-K-M-E-D. Hi, I'm Steve Potter, Body Shop Manager of LithuBody and Paint, and I'm on 106.7, KMED. 856. Ooh, you're looking for a great breakfast, a wonderful lunch. You got to head to Diner 62. Diner 62, just south of White City,

all your hearty breakfast favorites, juicy third-pound burgers. Get them, by the way, with the sweet potato fries or the onion ring, an extra special treat, okay? and Clam Chatter Friday. And so much more. Everybody loves it. Let's go to first line and see who's there. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome. Hey, Bill. This is Jack. Hi, Jack. Let's see if we can make you a winter this morning, Jack. We're going to be talking about a captured U.S. spy pilot sentenced in Russia. This happened today in history, August 19, 1960. Gary Powers takes off from Pakistan, and he's flying that U-2 high altitude reconnaissance craft, super secret, ultra-sophisticated. He was working for the CIA, and he was to fly over a whole bunch of the Soviet territory to an airfield in Norway, collecting intelligence information en route. Now, about halfway through the journey, he was shot down by the Soviets in the Ural Mountains, okay?

He was forced to bail out at 15,000 feet. Jack, you can imagine that wasn't a lot of fun, right? And he ended up surviving the parachute jump, promptly arrested by the Reds. And on May 5th, Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev announced that the American spy aircraft had been shot down and two days later revealed that Powers was alive and well and had confessed to his crime of being on an intelligence mission for the CIA. Nearly four months after being shot down, pilot Gary Powers was sentenced for espionage in a Russian court. What was his sentence? was it A, 10 years in prison, B, 20 years in prison, C, 40 years in prison, D, a life sentence, or E, a death sentence. It was one of those five.

What do you say? I think it was a life sentence. You're thinking a life sentence that Khrushchev was being pretty tough. Nope, it wasn't that one. Thanks for tying, Jack. Let me go to line two. Hi, good morning. Who's this?

Hello? Is this line, too? Yep, it is. Who are you? Oh, this is Tim from Eagle Point. Tim, let's see if we can make you a winner. 20 years in prison, 40 years in prison, or a death sentence. Oh, no, sorry me.

It's 10 years in prison, 20 years in prison, 40 years in prison, or a death sentence. What did they sentence Gary Powers to in Russia? 20 years. 20 years. You think it's 20? Good guess. Not the one. but we're getting closer.

Hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome. Hello. Is it Lauren and Nico Point? Lauren. 10 years in prison, 40 years in prison, or a death sentence. What say you? Yeah.

I remember that. I believe he was sentenced to 10 years in prison. 10 years in prison, yeah. Nailed it, buddy. In August, Powers pleaded guilty. He up 10 years in prison. three in prison, seven in a prison colony. However, 18 months later, Soviets agreed to release him in exchange for a senior KGB spy who was caught and convicted in the United States five years

earlier. And upon returning to the United States, power is cleared by the CIA of any blame for the U-2 incident, and he published a book, Operation Overflight, about that incident, rather. 177 killed in the crash of a helicopter he flew as a reporter for an LATV station. So that's how that story ended up going, okay? So hang on, Lauren, you are no longer hungry. This is KMED and KMED HD-H-1 Eagle Point Medford. KBXG grants passed. I ran a little bit late, so it's going to be Town Hall News currently in progress.

In an effort to end the war between their two countries. These are the heads of major countries. President Trump hosting Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelenskyy and seven Europeans leaders to discuss how to end the war with Russia. All of us would obviously prefer an immediate ceasefire while we work on a lasting peace. But he told them... In a very significant step, President Putin agreed that Russia would accept security guarantees for Ukraine. Adding, the European nations are going to take a lot of the burden.

We're going to help them. After the session, President Trump said he again spoke to Putin to begin arrangements for a face-to-face meeting between the Russian leader and Zelensky, Ben Thomas, Washington. Erin, a category two storm forced evacuations along North Carolina's outer banks, but experts warn the storm is expected to become larger as it moves over the western Atlantic Ocean through the week. And dangerous rip currents are expected at tri-state beaches, Aaron, about 700 miles south-southeast of Cape Hatteras.

From the foreign desk, Pyongyang raises its familiar complaints about scheduled joint military drills between the U.S. and South Korea. Kim Jong-un has condemned South Korean US military drills. He was inspecting his...