Bill Meyer Show Podcast - Sponsored by Clouser Drilling www.ClouserDrilling.com - 09-02-25_TUESDAY_6AM

Episode Date: September 2, 2025

09-02-25_TUESDAY_6AM

The Bill Meyer Show podcast is sponsored by Klauser Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausor drilling.com. Here's Bill Meyer. Okay, trying to see if I can remember how to do this. I've only been gone 10 days. 10 days. It was like a 10-day, nice vacation, a couple of weekends in the week,

and the holiday, Labor Day holiday, and it's okay, I'm good to see. It's sort of a work-in-progress this morning. But anyway, join the conversation on Pebble in Your Shoe Tuesday. First day back here, 770563-770 KMED. My email bill at Billmyershow.com. Read as many as I can. Well, actually, I do read them all, whether I get a chance to respond to what's just be. But I'm just glad to have you here one way or the other on KMED, 1063, 1067 in South Jackson County,

and in North Jackson County and Josephine County, 1059, and also 993, KBXG, during the morning show six to nine so for greater josephine county great to have you on and had a wonderful time off and just a a couple of mentions about uh... where he ended up going just uh... for a couple of days two three days ended up going out to the oregon coast and blew the stink off me and that was really enjoyable

uh... in fact i think if there was uh... the only complaint i think i have about the oregon coast these days besides the fact that everything's expensive but that's that way every place uh... special gasoline, especially gasoline if you're in California. I got to tell you, I feel sorry for the folks in Crescent City because gas over in Brookings would be like 379 over at the Fred Meyer and the various other ones, you know, roughly about 375, 380 a gallon. And 504 for regular, the moment you get into Crescent City and you cross the border, 504. Of course, that's

carbon taxes. And these are the kind of things that they certainly want to have come here and that was all finding good but i know california is used to this this is what the majority of or of uh california has been voting for and just like uh supposedly we're voting for higher taxes here in the state of oregon we're going to increase our gas tax it won't take it up to uh to 504 for regular but still that is uh certainly happened in so far a special session i didn't want to let you know special a special session rather was a rough start at first uh no quorum on Friday and then Saturday apparently they had enough Republicans and Democrats to show up and Dwayne Yonker is going to tell us more about that he'll join the show about an

hour from now because the House did vote to pass the big tax gas tax increase the registration increases doubling of the of the transit tax yeah all that kind of stuff that's all happening today we'll talk with him it's now moving on to the Senate and then And the House, well, the Salem Senate then has to figure out what they want to do with it. If there's any changes, then it ends up going back to the House, et cetera. And oddly enough, Governor Brown was not there. Governor Brown was out of the coast as she was doing some social media government, Governor Brown, pardon me, Governor Kotech. I'm sorry, I kind of tied the two together at the hip, you know.

But Governor Kotech out there with the wife and they're doing their things. in. You know, while the special session is going on, the Governor Kotech out in Astoria and last report. I don't know if she came back or not. But, well, you know, there are more important things. Someone has to mix up the wife's margaritas, you know, when it's Labor Day weekend. It's one of those long type things. Speaking of Labor Day, we did have a whole bunch of labor union members, community activists, this according to K-OBI 5, gathered at Veterans Memorial Park yesterday. All sorts of crowds lining. from Stewart Avenue and South Riverside.

I was out in that neighborhood. It must have missed it. It must have been after they were done. But, yeah, they were out criticizing the Trump administration. Southern Oregon Jobs with Justice was there. The moment you hear justice in any way, anytime you're talking about labor, you're talking about a communist front group in general. O-R-T-2 Indivisible Women's March, Southern Oregon, the Oregon Nurses Association.

Oregon Nurses Association, too. That's really nice to know. And they had all sorts of people out there. It was workers over billionaires. It's kind of like something that Bernie Sanders would say. Workers over billionaires. Workers over billionaires. Workers over billionaires except George Soros.

He's the type of billionaire we like. We like that kind of billionaire, I guess. And then we have the Oregon State Attorney General over the weekend. Saying, hey, you know, I'm out here supporting labor. Labor unions against the Trump administration. Oh, of course you're doing that. That is like the definition of an Oregon politician. It tells you how much or how serious it is that Oregon needs to have labor union help in order to get elected to hire office.

And so that is what is going on. Let's see. So so far, Oregon House, like I just mentioned, passes the transportation tax package. Heads to the Senate. expected to vote on that tomorrow. We'll talk more about that with State Representative Dwayne Yunker. Now, Dwayne stayed out from what I understand.

He stayed out of the session until so many people showed up, it didn't matter, and then he ended up coming in and doing some remonstrances and, in other words, speeches against what was going on. When voters sit down with their ballots next year, this totally

unnecessary rate on the wallets will definitely be on their minds. I hope he's right. But looking at the history of Oregon politics, do you think that people will look at the gas tax hikes and the registration hikes and the payroll cost hikes and everything else and all of a sudden decide to throw out all the Democrats? It would be nice. It would be nice in a logical world, but I don't know. We'll talk with Dwayne about that coming up here in the next few minutes, all right? let's see

Trump administration President Trump puts out a executive order demanding voter ID getting rid of mail-in voting too wants to do that that happened all on Friday going into Labor Day weekend and the push to ban

Oregon mail-in voting gaining momentum now this in OPB a lead supporter for the push to end vote by mail in Oregon claims it's gaining steam opponents say it is a long way to go Initiative 37 has gathered 25,000 signatures since the end of July. This is according to Ben Edel, Republican political consultant from Tuolitan. They have to get 156,000 by July 2nd to qualify for the November 2026 ballot.

Hope he does. I don't know. Dwayne's hoping that people will get angry and figure out what's going on and vote for something other than the Democrats and the squishy Republican. that have tended to enable so much of what has happened to Oregon. I imagine Ben Edel is hoping that we're tired of vote by mail. I don't know. Do you think there are enough people in Oregon that are willing to forego the convenience of having 105 or 106% of the eligible voters on our voting roles in Jackson and Josephine County?

Last time I remember Dr. Frank checking on that. Remember him? the election integrity guy. Yeah, you have more people on the voter rolls than you actually have people. So what kind of hinky could you have with such a system? I'm sure it is absolutely clean and perfect as the powers that be in Oregon will claim. All right. Well, I'll set that aside right now.

Who wants to talk about voter integrity now at this point? 7705-633. Pebble and you shoot Tuesday. We'll go over some of the other news here. Tom Gresham is going to join me from Gunnard. Gun Talk, the Minnesota School Shooting, Catholic School Shooting. Oh, my gosh, the reporting on that, I don't think I've ever seen such gaslighting going on. We'll talk about that and more coming up.

State Representative Dwayne Yonker will also be on the program. And your calls, we have Herman Berichiger, who is joining me in here, too. And Dr. Stanley Goldfarb joins me. We're going to talk about trying to get woke out of the medical schools. Woke out of the medical schools. How do we actually do this and actually go back to just the best doctors having merit? and rising within the system. It's a good question. He'll tackle that a little bit later this morning. For precision and performance, choose Stephen Westfall Roofing. Their standing seam metal roofing's

custom. ...way and let President Trump appoint somebody that is more in sync with getting interest rates to a level that is more aligned with where the rest of the world happens to be. Catch Sean, weekdays at 3 on KMED. Hi, I'm Deb with Father and Son Jory, and I'm on KMED. 621. After going on out of the coast a few days ago, having a great time, I had mentioned that gas was just insane, felt sorry for the people in Crescent City. But you know what I'm starting to really feel sorry for?

Are people that go to the coast and expect to find a restaurant that's not a seafood-oriented restaurant? You want seafood, that's great. No problem with seafood on the coast. You can find that, whether it's the shacks and various other things. Linda's allergic to this, so we can't go to stuff like that. And we had the weirdest on a Sunday. We decided, okay, we're going to go out and we're going to go find some place to eat out on the coast that is actually good and not fast food.

And that's just it because just about everywhere you go on the coast now. Yeah, you can find your Burger King, your McDonald's, and your KFC and your Taco Bell. But I just consider it a poor substitute for an actual sit-down restaurant. And if you don't want seafood, it doesn't work either. So we thought we would go over to Crescent City. This is what we decided to do. We decided to go to Crescent City from Smith River area in California. We were really close to the border over at Lucky 7,

which is where we stayed for a few days. And so we, on Sunday afternoon, decided to head down to Crescent City. Well, you know, we've been to Brookings before. That's all fine. We kind of plumbed Brookings for most of what has been nice up there to see. and when you go on the web and you start searching for restaurants that's one of the things I did okay where would you go

on a Sunday afternoon to eat and so we're coming up with this thing oh this is nice barbecue place okay well we love barbecue Sunday barbecue sounded really great and the little web thing on Yelp it said it's open okay

so Linda and I get into the PT and we head down to Crescent's city for about you know about 20 miles from where we were fine get through that and we're in crescent city it's okay here's this barbecue place open sunday afternoon this is wonderful we can't wait and so we end up finding it finally finding it and it's like this tiny little outhouse type shack that has that look of everything in on the coast was better about 60 years ago you know that kind of look like no one had painted it in 50 or 60 years and of course it's close even though their site says that they're open on Sunday.

Wow, okay. So that didn't work out so well. So we'll try going it through the downtown area of Crescent City. Well, we went through the downtown area, and there's a lot of places there. Now everything's closed, even though some of them also said they were open on Sunday. Well, we could at least go and have breakfast at Denny's, we're thinking, right? There's the Denny's in Crescent City. So we headed over there, and we pulled in, and we pulled in,

and closed for routine maintenance, even though they had been open for a while. They just put the sign up right there as did I pull up. Closed for maintenance, right? They're going, what do you mean closed for routine maintenance? Closed for routine maintenance is something you do like at midnight on a Sunday night, not at noon on Sunday. At least that's the way I'm thinking about it.

So even Denny's was out in Crescent City. All right. So, Lynn and I are about ready to chew our arm off at that point. So what do we do? So we end up driving around a little bit more in there. And there was this cafe, kind of like a sit-down restaurant. I forget the name of it, almost on the edge of town. And there were a lot of cars there.

And so we thought, okay, we'll go in there. And so we went into this roadside restaurant off of 101. And then we stood there for about 15 to 20 minutes. minutes and the wait staff that was there. And I don't know if it was because they were hired in California. So they were hired in California waitstaff. And so they're very depressed about paying taxes to Gavin Newsom. I don't know why.

But every single one of them managed to ignore us and the person behind us for about 15 minutes. Didn't even greet us when we came in. And finally said, okay, yeah, we'd like to. Finally, someone said, okay, I'll be with you. No greeting. I couldn't believe that. And so we got to the point where we're looking around here, and the house, the house help just looked so sullen, and we really don't want to be here, you know, that kind of thing. And so we didn't want to give them their money.

So as hungry as we were, we got back into PT, headed back over the border, and okay, we're going to have to go into Brookings again and see what's going on. We gave up on Crescent City. Crescent City, we gave it a shot. We really did. So we end up pulling into Brookings again. And gosh, you know, we didn't want to do the fast. food. We just wanted a sit-down good meal that wasn't seafood, right? And we had gone to the Black Trumpet before. Wasn't a great experience the last time we went there, and it was pretty

pricey. So we ended up popping around Brookings for a little while and came across this RH, I think brew pub. It was like a brew pub and restaurant. It was like the skies opened. we walked in there and the server came up there and said hey how you doing welcome to r and h i think it's the i think i get the name right right and welcome sit down have a great time and here's the menu and da da da da da da that be right with you i'm just going to take care of this other table they were so friendly it was kind of like what a difference from what we had experienced just about 2025 miles prior was just really weird and this is sunday afternoon right ended up having a great, you know, garlic tauts and a Philly cheese steak.

It was just absolutely wonderful. That worked great. So it was like a two and a half hour search for food on the coast on a Sunday afternoon that wasn't seafood. And, of course, I don't know why we have all those seafood restaurants out there on the coast here in Oregon and Northern California because when it comes right down to it, everybody knows that the best seafood is the filet-o fish at McDonald's. the Filo Fish at McDonald's when you

You can practically see the Flins The Finns flapping on the Cisco truck I'm just having fun with you All right Anyway, that was the one pebble in my shoe Over that entire deal It was just trying to get some decent food on the coast there I don't know, maybe what must be just kind of hard for him

Anyway, hi, good morning, who's this? It's pebble in your shoe Tuesday. Welcome Hey, hey, this is Al on the apple game Hey, Al, how are you doing today, huh? I'm doing great. Hey, one of my, actually, my favorite Chinese restaurant that's not in China is in Brookings. It's called the Rice Bowl, and that place is awesome. It's a little mom-and-pop place.

Oh, yeah? And their food is killer good. I'm glad to hear that. What section of town is that? Because a lot of these things are easy to miss if they're off the main 101. You know where the apple peddler, you know where the hole opened up and ate the highway? It just about ate this restaurant. It's like half a block from 101, right behind what used to be the app.

I don't know what that thing's called now, but it's right behind that. On the side towards the coast, on the west side. Hey, we'll try that because, like I said, if you wanted to eat seafood, there was no problem, but anything other than seafood that wasn't fast food was kind of a challenge on the coast. You ever had that experience? Yeah, yeah, it's always tough. Yeah. Hey, Al, good to hear from you.

How's everything else going for you, huh? Oh, everything's great. You're ready to pay more for your gas taxes and everything else? You ready? Oh, that just makes me pump. I don't have much hair to pull, but I'm pulling it. Okay, well, I'll help you get a tube, okay? We'll find a good location for a tube pay for you, okay?

All right. You'd be well. It's 630 at KMED, 993 KPXG, and you're on the Bill Myers show. We're going to check the latest news here, the rest of it with Bill London. And then Tom Gresham, host of Gun Talk, great guy. Really enjoyed talking with him, wanted to catch up with the reporting and a bunch more in what happened last week. That horrible tragedy over in Minneapolis, the Catholic school shooting. We'll have that coming up.

I'll grab one more call before we do that. Hi, good morning. Who's this? It's Logan, Bill. Hey, Logan. How are you? What's up? Hey, I just wanted to – I don't know if everyone heard it, but I could just hear the few Republicans, true Republican conservatives that we have in this state leaving yesterday. You know, it started with Sal, and I just think it's going to be a slow exodus of just people, the ones who really want to stay and fight, it's just, it's a lost, I don't want to say it's a lost cause at this point, but. It doesn't exactly look real encouraging, does it? Well, it's just the part that's so discouraging is the fact that we have our supposed Republican leaders that, I mean, aren't even Republicans.

I encourage people. I think we're going to get, obviously, Drazen, as our candidate, and it's very simple. Anyone can follow the money and follow where her contributions are coming from, and it's blatantly obvious who she's supported by. It's just controlled opposition from each side, and it's really sad. And so I just want to encourage people, you know, I don't know how much longer my folks and I are going to stick it out here in this state, but I don't blame people for leaving. It's just, it is what it is. And the challenge, though, with as if people leave there, Logan, then the remaining, the remaining warriors just had that much of a tougher time.

You're right. It's the truth. You know, I'm a fourth generation Rogue Valley resident here. My great-grandfather planted some of the very first pear trees in this valley, and it's just been tragic to watch what's happened. You know, my dad grew up on Eagle Point Ranch out here, and it's just, this is not the same place it was, and it's systematic destruction by our leaders, and we got to stop it, or or I don't, I hate to say it, I think it might be too late.

And it was, it was a good run, though. Yeah. Logan, I want to ask you a question. I was reading an article on EPATOs, you know, Eric Peters. I'm going to talk with him about this tomorrow. And it kind of is indicative of a sort of institutional rot of some sort. And it had to do with the rise of the automated license plate readers. You know, the Alpers?

I don't know if you saw that article over on Epiottos. there's one right at the end of Columbus on Jackson we have them all and that's kind of what people don't realize metford has been kind of the flagship for a lot of these programs because the leadership here is literally connected with the agenda and and that was kind of what I was getting at here and I'm going to talk with you more about that tomorrow and I ended up going on let's see unflock dot me and it's about because these are all flocked systems, flock safety systems, you know, the company that runs these automated license plate readers. And why is it that Medford has something like 30 of these automated license plate

readers? And Ashland has none, not even one, one at all. Because we sold ourselves out, Bill. It is what it is. You know, I know it's since been, you know, dismissed and everything like that, but when I can run for office for county commissioner, within three hours of me turning in my application to run be in the back of a Medford police car there's something seriously wrong going on maybe you're right about that logan i appreciate the call what it is we'll have more on that tomorrow okay but yeah we won't have that topic tomorrow with uh with eric peters i was astounded because uh thank you for the call by the way um i had some listeners that they emailed me a few weeks ago and i was trying to find out what these were and you're saying bill what are these pole-like objects

that are going up around town polls that have a little uh solar solar solar panel on them. And then, well, there's a camera on them too. And those are the Alpers. Those are the automated license plate readers. And why is it that we feel that law enforcement's job or the system here in Southern Oregon is supposed to be funneling all of our license plate information where and when you were someplace when you haven't committed a crime? Why is it necessary to do that? Why is it that Medford seems to be the place that has most of it? Grants Pass has like three or four. Medford had around 30 of them, according to that website.

Not in Ashland, none in talent. I don't think there were any in Phoenix. But it's when you got into Medford. What is it about Medford that makes Medford so special that we feel like we have to join the technocracy of the surveillance society with a funneling huge databases of license. license plate readers of where everybody's going at all times. Why is that? Were we ever

consulted on that? I don't recall that. Maybe that was something buried in a city council meeting years back, probably grant stream funding from ODOT. I don't know. I know we're kind of like looking at this after the fact. We'll have more on that coming up. This is the Bill Myers show.

The outdoor report is every Friday morning just past 7 a.m. Josephine County Fairgrounds. You're here in the Bill Myers Show on 1063, KMED. And someone who probably never passes up a gun show, and he hears about one going on in his neighborhood. That'd be Tom Bresham at Gun Talk, the host of Gun Talk. How are you doing this morning, Tom?

Great to have you back on a long time. Good morning, watching the sun coming up and looking forward to another great day. Yeah, and now it was a few years ago you moved away from Louisiana, and you're now in Idaho. Was it the eastern part of Idaho, someplace in there? Yeah, a couple hours north of Boise. in the mountains and just lovely, the dry air and a bit cooler temp than we get down there in Muggy, Louisiana.

Oh, no doubt. And, of course, it's going to be pretty hot here, about 103 expected, but it's a dry heat, Tom. It's a dry heat here. Yeah, you know what, so is my oven. Yeah, exactly. I was thinking nuclear explosion is also pretty dry heat from what I heard there. But I did want to touch on something. How can everybody find out?

I know you talk about it on the show every Sunday, 11 and 2, we have it here on KMED. We always appreciate you. And gosh, we've been having you here. I want to say it's close to 15 years, maybe more, and just love the show. But how can everybody find out everything about Tom before we get into the topic de jour here? Oh, sure, yeah. I mean, go to guntalk.com. That's easy.

Guntalk.com. And we have all the different things we do. We have TV shows, podcasts. We have a physical training facility. And then, of course, we've got the national radio show, which becomes a massive podcast as well. So, you know, if they want to visit us there, also over on X, you know, the former Twitter, I am at Gun Talk there, and I'm there all the time. All right. And I'm hoping that somehow the greater Idaho people are able to make it happen so we can join you and be part of the same state someday.

You never know. You would be welcome. I'm glad to hear that. Tom, I wanted to pick up a subject which broke later last week, and it was just absolutely horrendous. had to do with the two children killed by the transgender murderer in the Catholic school, Minneapolis area here. And were you surprised at how the reporting went on that, especially with key aspects of the person? Or were you looking at this from a different angle?

How did you see that? I look at these differently than a lot of people do, because I fall squarely. in what I call the I don't care category, all the stuff that people are yammering about, you know, was this person trans, was this person this, was the old mid, I don't care. I just don't care. The only thing I care about is how do we protect people ourselves, and all this other stuff is just nonsense that we spin our wheels on. The only thing it really matters is how do we stop people from killing a whole lot of innocent people?

And there is a way, I mean, I got to understand. We're talking about the difference between stopping it and preventing it. Because a lot of people spin their wheels about how do we prevent it. No, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, preventing it, or at least preventing crazy people or evil people from existing. That's probably a tough, that's a high lift, right? Really high lift. Right, but we know what works to stop them, and that is someone shoots them.

Every single time it stops mass shootings. It absolutely does. Now, here's the only question. Here's the hard question for people, and it makes me squirmy and uncomfortable. How many people are you willing to let be shot before you stop it? Because if they say, well, just call the police, then what they're saying is, we're okay with double-digit murders. Because generally speaking, that's what will happen before law enforcement shows up, just a matter of logistics, right? Look, there's a great book.

If anybody wants to study this, called First 30 seconds. It's by Ed Muck. We just came on the radio show three weeks ago. He studied this extensively. And the simple fact is people are going to get shot about every five to six seconds. So the question is, how long do you want that to go on? Because the longer it goes on, the more people who get shot. It's time and math.

It's really a simple deal. And the first time someone shows up with a gun, the murders stop. So the real question is, do we really care if that person who shows up with a gun is wearing a uniform or not? because people say, well, that's not the job of individuals. That's the job of the police. I'm saying, well, you know what? You're telling me you're okay with dozens of people getting killed or shot, where if someone was on the scene with a gun and could respond in the first 30 seconds,

we can cut those numbers down significantly. It always works. It has worked. It just, it's simple math. I don't know why people get all weird about it. Are you going down that road then that once again, you know, a big mass shooting and mass casualty event happens at a arguably gun-free zone.

Well, they're always gun-free zone. Look, these people actually write about it in their manifestos. They're looking for a gun-free... They're looking for a gun-free zone, and they're looking for the highest body count they can get, and they talk about... They idolize other mass murderers, and they want to become famous.

You'll notice that I never say the person's name. I'm not going to give him or her that kind of notoriety that they're looking for. And they're going to commit suicide. The first time someone shows up with a gun, they generally kill themselves. And that's an okay thing. I don't, you know, you can call it tragic. I don't care.

Look, I just stop killing innocent children. And so the real question is, why do we have rules? Why do we have laws that prevent people from reacting? Here's a question for you, Bill. If we told people, okay, in case of a fire, we want all the children in school to go hide in a corner, and we're going to see who gets to you first. The fire or the fire department. Yeah, yeah, we'd never go for that.

We would think that's nonsense, but that's exactly how we treat a school shooting, right? Isn't that what happens? Yeah, we tell them, look, go hunker at a corner, and we'll say who gets to you first. Maybe the police get there, maybe the bad guy gets there, or in some places you can actually carry a gun, and teachers can carry a gun, and staff can carry a gun, and citizens can carry a gun, And time and time and time after time, they stop these in the middle of it. And as soon as they show up with a gun, the murders stop. Tom Gresham is with me.

He's the host of Gun Talk every Sunday, 11 to 2 here on KMED. Just a wonderful resource here. And it's great to have your show on. Tom, I know that you're one of these guys you talked about. You don't care about the other politics side of things. But is there a case to be made for politics in one respect? And that is, we're told that you have to keep crazy people, arguably crazy people, from getting access to firearms, right? That's what we're told all the time.

And that this, and that's what the background check is supposed to happen. Someone that has a, what just a few years ago was considered a mental illness and is now just kind of being covered up these days. Or shouldn't that be something which is considered when you go for background checks on the NICS? What do you think? Well, it is considered if you've been involuntarily incarcerated or put into an institution, you are disqualified for buying and owning a gun. The problem is our background check system is very flawed. And, of course, in this case, there were a lot of people who knew this person had serious problems.

There were a lot of people who could have done something about it. And that state, Minnesota actually has red flag laws. Somebody could have done something about this. Once again, red flag laws do not work. You do not keep the safer. You know what? I mean, really, when you get right down to it, the only thing it keeps you safe is you. You can't depend upon the government.

You can't depend upon systems. You can't depend upon background checks. Only you can be your own first responder. And anything else, it's just hoping and hoping and praying that someone will bring a gun to save you when you should have done the job yourself in the first place. But then we have areas, no doubt like Minneapolis, and certainly the state of Oregon is trying to tighten the noose on the ability to carry and self-defend. legally, you know, those kind of things, Oregon used to be much, much more sensible. But then at the same time, they'll say, well, you can't defend yourself, but then if you do get killed or hurt or someone you love is damaged in such an incident, like what you've been talking about here, Tom,

then we have to go after the tools. So it almost seems like, you know, the reduction of of the ability to self-defend almost seems to be tied to the to the higher pushes for gun control, wouldn't you say? Isn't that part of it? Of course it is. They always go home to mama. It's like, okay, we're going to deflect, we're going to automatically go to the gun control thing. Look, we have tried in this country, we have tried every form of gun control imaginable, including confiscation and banning. Yep.

There's not one single instance of a gun control law reducing crime in the U.S. Even the CDC studied, they said they could find no example of a gun control law of reducing crime. Gun control does not work unless, unless when you say work, what you really mean is the idea is we have to take guns away from everybody. And occasionally the gun ban industry will actually say it out loud. The goal here is to get rid of all guns. I asked one of them one time on the show. I said, well, what about the police? They said, well, you know, once we get rid of all the guns, the police aren't going to need their,

either. That's how crazy they are. Do you really want to, while these people seem to be in charge in many areas, like I said, very sad to see what happened over in Minnesota the other day. All right. So the main thing is more arming of school teachers and officials. That's the bottom line. And not necessarily school resource officer. Is that kind of the way you're looking at this, Tom? Oh, yeah. No, no, no. A school resource officer does almost no good at all. Look, he got a big campus. We've got several buildings. The school resource officers in another building probably doesn't know there's anything going on until he or she gets a phone call and has to respond.

You need somebody on the ground there. And let me just say this. We talk about arming teachers. No one I know has ever proposed arming teachers. No one. Because they say, well, you know, teachers shouldn't be forced to carry guns. Nobody's saying you have to. They're saying let volunteers do that after they get extensive training in this. But no one has ever said we're going to arm teachers. That's never going to perform. proposal. Not everybody is a capable of that, but those who are should be able to do so with no problem, right? That kind of thing. They save lives. We have many instances of staff members or teachers, and there are a number of states where teachers and staff members can carry,

and they do. And in those states, in those schools, what they do, we've never had a school shooting. Tom, I've heard from law enforcement, not here locally, but I've talked to other people. In fact, I remember a relative of mine used to be a school resource officer in a state of Pennsylvania. And when I was talking to him after a school shooting at that point, he said, well, you know, we really wouldn't want to have anybody inside the school other than a school resource officer that was armed because then we don't know who is the good guy or the bad guy. What would you say to someone who makes that claim? Well, the first thing I would say is that you're just stupid as a bag of rocks.

And we know that that's not true, time and time again. It's very easy to figure out who the bad guy is. It's really, really easy to figure out who's killing kids. So anybody who says that either has no training or is one of those who says, only we are the ones who should be able to do this. We're the only ones. And look, I have shot with a lot of cops. A lot of them are the worst and most dangerous people on the shooting range I've ever been around.

They are really poor at firearms. Not all cops, but any cop who's listening to this. knows what I'm talking about, is that a lot of cops are just flat out, incompetent, and dangerous with firearms. So don't tell me you're the only ones to know how to do this. When trained good people are saving lives every single. Look, in the United States of America, Americans, citizens use guns and self-defense two and a half million times a year to save lives.

That doesn't get a lot of reporting, does it? No, it does not. Even the CDC did its own study and found that. And guess what they did? They refused to publish the information. We had to dig it out and find where they had hidden it. Said the wrong thing. Oh, the lie of omission, right, Tom?

Tom Gresham of Gunn Talk, guntock.com. Hey, Tom, thanks for the reporting on this, and at least giving your take. I always appreciate the opinion. But I want to ask your opinion, what is your favorite 9-millimeter pistol you have shot or reviewed recently? I'm kind of curious that because I don't think there was ever been a time in which there had been more 9-millimeter pistols on the market. with all sorts of variants out there, suppressor radio, all the rest of them. Of all of them, what have you liked, you know? You know, there's a bunch of really good ones.

I always like the old standard 1911 versus the new Ruger RXM, which I've been carrying, and I like that a lot. Here's the thing. People need to go try guns because it's like saying, I like these clothes, and you should try an Excel because that's going to fit you well. Well, maybe it doesn't. You got to go try it, go to a store or a range where you can actually rent guns and try them, and you're going to find the one that works for you, because what works for me doesn't

necessarily work for you. I'm kind of curious, and my own personal range report, I wanted to call you, but I was always busy at the time. I ended up getting a couple of Canic TP-9s, especially self-defense, and one of the finest shooters out of the box that I ever experienced, but it's like it can't seem to catch a break anywhere, and I'm kind of wondering, is it just because it's Turkish or something else going on, you think? Right now, sales

guns are down, just generally speaking, and I think it's because people don't feel threatened. They don't feel like, you know, Donald Trump's not going to take their guns away when Joe Biden was in, and he literally had an office of gun banning inside the White House, and he let the gun ban industry have an office inside the White House, and so people were buying guns like crazy. But, yeah, the candidate is, those are good guns. We have an entirely new generation of really good guns, made these days. And a lot of them are not terribly expensive. So it's a great time if you're

looking at buying a gun, you know, go get some training, training, training, training. And for those who are confused, practice is not training. Training is that an actual class with an actual instructor. And everybody who has a gun for self-defense should do that. I'm not going to say you're required to because it's the right, the Second Amendment right, but it's a really good idea to get some training. Tom, great having you on. for the call. Thanks for being a little flexible all the time with me this morning, since I got you a little bit late. I apologize for that. I'll be better next time, all right? Be well. Thanks so much, Bill. I'm very appreciate it. Thank you, Tom. Tom Gresham, host of Guntalk.com.

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However, if a person decides to have their sex-changed, hormonal treatment for sex change, they have very intense physiological evaluations done by a mental health professional, or at least they should. They must present it at time of the purchase of any firearm. That includes with your background check and fingerprints. And if they fail it, put it in the national database that the military and the FBI use, zero exceptions. That's Jim from Grant's Pass. appreciate your writing about that. Yeah, I know Tom didn't want to get into the politics of this situation, but arguably

not every transgender person is violent, but transgenders appear to be when it comes to firearms punching above their weight, Jim. And so I think the current way that we're dealing with it is not dealing with it at all, not yet, okay? Point well taken, the email bill at Billmyershow.com. latest from Town Hall News coming up. State Representative Dwayne Yonker will join me coming from the carnage yesterday in the state legislative session, the special one.