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Episode Date: September 5, 2025

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The Bill Myers Show podcast is sponsored by Klausur drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausor drilling.com. It's past Steve's in Summee Valley. Hello, Steve. What's on your mind? Good morning. Morning.

Yeah, I used to work for Union Pacific and on an extra board, and you never knew who you were going to get called with. But there was one guy, whenever you get called for him, you were on the Bipolar Express because you didn't know who was going to show up that day. Oh, the Bipolar Express. in the railroad, right? Oh. And eventually, you know, he always looked kind of strange.

He had jet black dyed hair, and he was about six foot seven, and his Adam's apple and his nose stuck out farther than anything else. Probably weighed about 160 pounds, painted his fingernails black, ended up coming to work and a dress. Oh. Yeah, he was not mentally there, and you did not want to get called to go to work with that guy. And were you kind of ordered to just pretend that everything was okay?

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. We took a train into San Jose once and had to park it with the engine at the wrong end of the track, and there was an eight-foot fence. He just took his grip and tossed it over and straddled that fence like it was nothing, and yet he thought he was a gorgeous girl. Oh, okay. Now, his grip, the grip is the handle that runs the locomotive, right?

Is that what that? No, no, no. A grit is what railroaders call their luggage that they have to take with them to the motel every night. Oh, okay. What do they call that thing, which is like the handle that you can remove from the locomotive, the diesel locomotive. What's that thing called? That is, what is that called? I have a dozen of them. They're plastic, and they just get stuck everywhere, and you can forget to get rid of them. Oh. But anyway. Okay, I'm just asking. The other thing I want to talk about is I've been working at the fire camps. for the last seven years, and the number of people who don't speak English at the fire camps

is scary, and they are good paying jobs, and there are a lot of college students who would love to make that kind of money, Americans, and we really need to get the illegals out of it. This summer, I haven't worked once because we haven't had any big fires in Oregon in my region. Now, in other words, you're referencing then what happened with Table Rock Forestry or that group because they ended up having a couple of illegal aliens who ended up being arrested by ICE up in Washington State when they were working on the crew. There was a pipeline taking illegals and putting them in fire camp. Nobody sees who's working there, and they're all making $300 a day, and that's money that Americans need. I work my way through college, and you can't do it anymore, but fire jobs help.

All right. Hey, well, it's a good point. Thanks for bringing it up, and I always appreciate your call there. We'll have more open phone calls in a little bit later here. a few minutes here. David Oates is standing by, and we're going to talk about his appearance tomorrow night at the National Library, 630s when he's show up there, and David Oates is all into reverse speech. This is his thing. Reverse speech.com. In other words, you take people's speech, you play it back, and the subconscious comes out, or maybe a more truthful deal.

I don't know. We'll just talk with him about that coming up. Are you, or do you know an adult 55 or older with low income looking for accessible housing, OVista Village and Talent has 26-1-bedroom apartments with new appliances, in-unit laundry, and rent just 700. Slight chance of showers in storm Saturday. This hour of the Bill Myers Show is sponsored by Fontana Roofing. For roofing gutters and sheet metal services, visit Fontana Roofing Services.com. Hey, proud to have David Oates on. I've talked with David Oates off and on over the years.

I forget the last time we had a conversation, David, but you are the reverse speech man. and it's reverse speech.com. You can read up more about what David is all about. And tomorrow night, 6.30, you're going to be at the Ashland Library for a lecture. Welcome back to the show. Good morning. Good morning. Thank you very much for having me.

David, how did you get involved or discover? How did you discover what you claim then is you take someone's speech and you reverse it? and then you can have, well, the subconscious. You call it the voices from the subconscious. When did you figure that out? Right, correct. Yeah, yeah. The basic concept is if you take speech and run it backwards

about once every 15 or 22nd, you can hear this very clear phrase amongst the gibberish. That is, I maintain, is the unconscious and even deeper speaking. Look, I got into it back in the 80s, early 80s. back in the old satanic messes in rock and roll days, which was a big controversy back then. Teenagers were running their reckless backwards and fundamentals were claiming it's Satan. Oh, heck, when I was a kid, once we heard about, you know,

termion dead man, when you take the Beatles' revolution number nine and put it in reverse, we were all doing that, right? You'd take it and play it. It was there, I guess. Oh, yeah, we all, yeah, I was doing it, too. Okay. But you made a career out of it, David. You made a career out of it, right? Yes, I did.

Right. Well, when I started researching it, I mean, I wanted to find out what Backwell-Marsing was all about. And then when I found it in human speech, it put a whole new twist to it. I mean, it's one thing to play Beatles records backwards and Ozzy Oswald in reverse, but to come to hear it in speech and then to hear what people are really thinking and feeling, and it gets, well, it gets a little bit scary, a little bit creepy. But I knew that the implications of this was absolutely profound. I mean, this was back in the mid-80s when I realized it occurred in speech as well. And I've just been driven with a passion ever since then to spread the word and teach and lecture.

and I think it's a profound discovery. It has tremendous implications. It means that we now have a way to tap into human thought. And, I mean, it's got applications in therapy and police investigations. I mean, all sorts of things. Yeah. Do you – has science been willing to – well, whatever science would tend to look at this, have they tended to look askance at your research or what you've done?

There are some people that are thinking, hey, maybe there's something going on here. What do you say? Yeah, I generally being received with skepticism from the scientific community. Unfortunately, they have run a couple of blind tests, and the tests they have run, they've all shown that reverse phrases can be heard. So I'm a little bit puzzled as to why they come up with a negative overview. But anyway, I don't know, I'm not an academic, I can't say. Okay, all right.

Because, you know, I've talked to you, gosh, even back in the days when I was on a rock show, I was doing a rock morning show here, and I found it fascinating. I remember you were playing Bill Clinton clips backwards, which were, you know, the rage. Oh, yeah, that was back in the 90s. Bill Clinton was a bit of a naughty boy. I found out of his reversal. Oh, yes, indeed. Indeed, he was.

So what are you going to do then tomorrow night at the Ashton Library? What does one of your events look like? What occurs, huh? Okay. Well, first of all, I'm going to introduce the theory. I'm going to start up by playing some fairly controversial examples, some public figures and politicians, and look at their inner thoughts.

Actually, look, and then I'm going to get onto some of the deeper aspects of reverse speech, reverse speech and the unconscious and metaphors. We're going to get down to the collective unconscious and down to the spirit and the soul itself. So I've chosen a couple of examples that highlight both sides of my lecture, okay? Okay. So let's play one. This is the first half of my lecture. This will be the secrets of celebrities.

Now, this is, but the big controversy right now is the Jeffrey Epstein affair. Sure. So this is Prince Andrews on this infamous BBC interview where he messed up quite badly. And he's trying to explain this photograph that was taken between him and Virginia Roberts. So here's the forwards. Oh, hang on. I'm sorry. That photograph has been doctored.

Let me start it again. Sorry, I have the audio switch from. Okay, let's, one more time. Nobody can prove whether or not that that photograph has been doctored, but I don't recollect that photograph ever being taken. Back was he says, Jeff, which is Jeffrey Epstein, Jeff had to get murdered. Listen to this.

Jeff had to be murdered. And that's pretty creepy, isn't it. Jeff has pretty creepy, isn't it? Yeah, it's more than just a little creepy. Yeah. How, Jeff had to get murdered. But raises all sorts of questions. Yeah, sure.

Was Jeffrey Epstein murdered, or did he suicide? If he was murdered, did Prince Andrew know about it? I got a few more reversals on Prince Andrew that I'll play at my lecture and we're going to get into the Jeffrey Eveson control see a little bit deeper so I've got some reversals

on Delane Maxwell in her recent interview with the DOJ I'm looking forward to hear this because this was the interview just recently. Go ahead. Oh, you're okay, all right, yeah, look, look, I didn't have a ready to play. Oh, oh, okay.

My only, no, no, that's okay. No, I've got to hear. My only concern is the audio is a little bit, a little bit scratchy. Okay, well, might you give me things that you think can sound less scratchy over radio since we're doing it over a phone line and the internet connection right now? Okay. All right. All right.

So let me highlight the spiritual side of the lecture. This will be the last half. this is an audio of me on a radio show talking about the spiritual aspects of reverse speech so here's the forwards you can talk to any particular religion and the answer to that is no there are no diabetes or religion

that reverse speech endorses or says this is right or this is wrong it just talks about the soul and the endlessness of life and that in itself is very powerful Indeed. And backward, it says, it's the voice in heaven. It's the voice in heaven. It's the worst in heaven.

Mm-hmm. It's the worst of heaven. And at its deepest levels, the verse speech describes itself as the spirit talking. It's that voice that comes from deep down within. You know, is it the voice that comes... Okay, I'm sorry to interject here. David Oates. David Oates with me this morning. He's the reverse speech guy. You know, I have read books and talk to people, and they would say that some people have, and these are claims.

You know, we're talking about claims being done, but that claims that they would say a lot of things backwards and then essentially selling themselves to the devils or any truth to something like that. and I'm wondering if this is almost giving credence to some of what you're, you know, discussing this morning with me. Well, look, the whole devil thing started back in the satanic message days. You know, I think if Satan does exist, he did a very good job of making people very scared of the voice of the spirit. I don't believe at all that were conjuring demons or Satan at all. And point of fact, I believe it's the opposite. of that. No, but I was talking about, though, that the reverse speech, that is giving credence, I thought, to what you were doing, because some people were saying that, you know,

if I'm going to, like, someone was going to swear allegiance to Satan, let's say, and then they would speak, and they would conduct speeches in reverse, or, in fact, another person had Roby one time and said, Bill, you understand that live, that live, that lived, in reverse is evil, you know, when you even, when you even, you know, do reverse speech. I'm just wondering if just the reversing of it, not you reversing it, but, you know, people actually reversing speech or speaking in reverse would do this. Well, it does give credit that these things do exist, and it does give credence that the backward messages, satanic messages do exist.

Yes, is that where you were going? Yeah, that's kind of where I was going. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that is so. Look, we've done an electrocephalgraph test where the brain can be seen to be actually receiving and responding to the reverse phrases. So the fundamental aspect there

who are claiming there is a subliminal influence from these back messages were actually quite correct. There, one does exist, but it also depends on what one's own belief system is too, whether you can reject it or not. So, yeah, my research does tend to support that whole back of messages thing. Yes, it does. Is it, do you believe it's the subconscious mind?

Like, I'm going back to that Prince Edward clip that you played just a moment ago. And if I said the exact same words, though, would I not also have the same reverse speech? So I'm just kind of figuring out, you know, that's the downside, that all I have to do is just say the exact same thing. And I would come back with the same reverse speech. And does that mean that I'm, you know, that I think that Jeffrey had to die? You see what I'm getting at? I'm just curious how you were you. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. Look, I could ask this question all time. Yeah. If you can reproduce what Andrew said in exactly the same way he said it with his voice tone, you will get something similar. But generally, when people speak, they speak completely differently. One person can say one sentence one way, and another worst person can say a completely different way,

and you get totally different backward message. So generally it's not to do with the words that you use, but the sounds of speech. But like I said, if you can reproduce Prince Andrew exactly the same way he said it, you may get that, but that is you are to officially reproducing it in normal conversation. Yeah, trying to do it. Yeah, you're grasping this in normal conversation.

And also, and they are talking about the subject at hand. There is a context to this then, I guess, when you were... That is correct. Yeah, you know, that's the first thing that convinced me of it's reality back in the early days was this direct contextual relationship. I would say probably 90% of all the examples I found the reverse messages relate directly to the forwards. I mean, you look at probably one of my most famous examples

that I play often, and this is the one that convinced me about the reality of reverse speech back in the early days was the example of Neil Armstrong, walking on the moon. I'm just trying to get that up as fast as I can while I'm talking to you. Oh, okay. And this was the very first one I found in human speech, actually, and it sent me on my whole expiration. Now, Neil Armstrong, of course, famed.

Yeah, Neil Armstrong famed for, of course, walking on the moon, first man walking on the moon. Right. So here's this famous first words on the moon. Yeah, that's not coming... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's not coming through... Could you try that again? It's not coming through right now.

It didn't come through well. Oh, really? No. Look, you know what? The audio's old. Hmm, let's try it again. How's that? Is that any better?

Yeah, I'm hearing one step for a man. Sure. And backwards, man will spacewalk. See if you can hear this. Do you hear that? Yes, I could. It is pretty scratchy. It is old audio, I know that.

Okay. Yeah, I'm sorry about that. Well, I think it would be better, but honestly here, David, I think it would be better in person. You're able to put it on the PA, right? You probably put it on a PA and everyone's able to hear it quite loudly. Yeah, it's clear. day. Okay.

Yeah, and the thing that, I guess that was the first one I found in speech, and the thing that struck me was he says spacewalk backwards while he's walking on the moon. And it's like, wow, what are the odds of that? There's this direct connection between the forward and reverse dialogue. And as I continued researching, I found these connections constantly throughout language, and it's like, this is incredible. All right. Just some of the early days, it was so exciting.

All right, well, I'll tell you what. Talk about the lecture. I don't know. So in the lecture tomorrow, you're going to be talking about, of course, you're going to have celebrities, and you're going to have some numerous politicians. I understand you're going to probably use as examples here. And then you talk about a spiritual side of that, too. What do you think will be most surprised about it if you had to take a stab at that? Oh, most surprise.

Okay. Who really killed JFK? That's one surprise. And I think the depths from which reverse speech comes, and it constantly talks about the soul and the human spirit, and there is this whole spiritual dimension to the human psyche that reverse speech captures. So there you go. All right.

So the next reverse speech lecture, by the way, is tomorrow night. David Oates will be there with all his machinery, and a lot of people have been writing me and saying that they were looking forward. to popping out and seeing you here, David. So anyway, it's at... Oh, it's exciting. Yeah, Ashland Library, Ashland, it's going to be 630, and how long do you think it'll run overall?

Oh, about two and a half hours. I'll be done by nine. Okay, all right. Is there a cost to attend? Do you know? Look, I don't know. I haven't been told that. Look, probably $10 at the door, I would imagine.

I really don't know, so don't quote me on that, okay? All right. We'll see about that. By the way, thanks. By the way, thank Jeff Rents. Jeff Rance called me, and he told me that you were one that was coming over. And I just, if you could just mention that, I'm just glad to know that you were coming in. And always a good talk. I don't know about it.

I can't prove this one way or the other, but it is really stimulating here, David. Okay, very interesting and thought-provoking. Really good stuff you do there. Okay? Thank you. Okay. Thank you, sir. Okay. All right. Bye-bye. David Oates, reverse speech.com. David Oates, reverse speech.com.

And tomorrow night, Ashland, Oregon, Ashland Library. Pretty easy to get to, 6.30. Your home equity could vanish almost overnight, stolen by scammers. Bill Myers Show on 1063, KMED. It's 833. Now, then, before I talk with Brad, brother Brad, standing by here, I want to do a couple of emails of the day. Those are sponsored by Dr. Steve Nelson.

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Keith writes me this morning, Bill, snowflakes. Reverse speech, Bill. us a break bill so pathetic keith i'll tell you what you don't like a guest or a subject guess what i don't force you to listen that's the way every now and then i love to be you know it's interesting to step out i don't know if that stuff is real or not i don't know i've talked to him off and on every 10 15 years or so i've talked to david i just thought it's thought provoking. And a lot of people find it interesting. And you don't have to go to it and nor do you have to listen. But, you know, sometimes it's kind of fun to do something which is just not the

standard gruel of talk radio, which just seems to be so much dominated by Republican good and Democrat bad on everything. And that's all there is to it. You know, kind of like Sean Hannity on a daily basis. Okay? All right. I couldn't do his show. You drive me crazy. It's good to do it. Patrick writes me this morning here. Bill, we see if I get this up here. A conspiracy on the Antifa trans-connection,

I do not believe that the Antifa transgendered people are, in fact, transgendered. I believe that they are wearing a military uniform that identifies them to the powers that be to give them a pass for whatever atrocities they commit because they are, in fact, a military combatant. This is very similar to the white robe and the hoodie wearing KKK that operated as a military unit of the Democratic Party back in the day. Conspiracy, maybe. That's kind of thought-provoking, Pat, I appreciate you doing that. Hans Alperkirky writing me about tariffs.

Riddle me this bill. Congress and the Constitution claimed the power to tariff, Article 1, Section 8, but they do nothing about it. The dawn sees the uneven playing field, takes action on his own, gets a spanking, GOP has the majority in the House and Senate? Does the majority legislature push hard to redo tariff rates with the Dawn? No. They have bigger fish to fry like Epstein and the RFK deal to waste time on. There's only a year left in the majority rule,

and the only victory I'm seeing is in the rise of the imperial judiciary. It's a very good point, Hans. Yeah, you're right. Well, that's been my concern about Don going with the tariffs in the first place because clearly clear reading of the Constitution. It doesn't really have that power. been stretching that emergency power, probably beyond its ability. And if Congress really cared about it, you would think they'd be working with the president

if they really cared about it, all right? Carol writes me this morning. Bill, I grew up in Portland, now currently living in Jackson County, left Portland in 2022. What a mess. That beautiful city went downhill during the two years prior in mid-June, 2022. Pioneer Courthouse Square looked like. a film set for a zombie movie following a nuclear attack. The square had previously been the gathering place for people to enjoy. Moved to Arizona for a couple of years. Hated it there, moved back to Oregon.

I remember Sean Leahy's article in the Oregonian newspaper, you asked him about living in Portland, and he said he loved Portland in Oregon. He can't say anything else. Now, regarding John Leake, John Leaky, after hearing him on your show about Peter McCullough, I read his book from 2022. The Courage to Face COVID-19, I believe, was the title,

Insightful, Shocking, Sad, Well-written. The book that you discussed during your program was not at the library, however. It's on order now, and I look forward to reading it as well. Dr. McCullough is a hero. Thanks for having such wonderful guests on your show, and for the record, I am 74 years old. All the best, Carol. Carol, bless your heart, seriously, okay? Thank you for listening, and thank you for emailing Bill at Billmyr's Show.com.

Brother Brad is here. Brother Brad, you wanted to talk about the illegal aliens picked up at the fire from ICE, right? And a lot of people getting upset about that, but what are you thinking? Yeah, yeah. So, Bill, it's been an awful long time since you had to get hired by anybody because you've been there, you've been there at the radio station forever. Well, I did have to dig up my birth certificate, though, for marquee broadcasting, purchasing. It's like, okay, where's my – well, fortunately, I had to do the thing for real ID,

recently. So I had it pretty much handy. Go ahead. Yeah. So, but if you did, if you did, what you would find is one of the documents that you would have to complete as a condition of employment is called an I-9. And an I-9 verifies your ability to work legally in the United States, and it requires that you attest to several things. And on, and the text of this on the I-9 includes this. It says, I am aware, federal law provides for imprisonment and or fines or false statements or the use of false documents. That's right. In other words, somebody committed a crime long before these arrests or detainments happened,

somebody broke the law. Either these guys made false statements. They created a crime by filling out these documents falsely, or their employer created a crime by knowingly accepting false documentation in the form of this. And nobody gets out of this. No matter who you are, no matter what job you apply for, you've got to fill out an I-9. So somebody broke the law long before these arrests ever happened. And the only question is, is who broke the law and what is the penalty that applies to it?

It's not, why do you arrest these guys in the middle of firefighting? Because they're just like saying, well, you know, if somebody broke the law, you've got to tell the cops, okay, well, you've got to wait until these guys get through doing their jobs. Yeah, I know. Except that there is discretion in law enforcement. I would have thought, I would have run that through the optics thing and understanding. And there seemed that that was ham-handed because you could have just as soon picked them up when they were out of that. Okay. And then I think you wouldn't have even given the left a weapon with which to beat the right over the head of over.

Okay. That's kind of what I'm getting at here. There is all sorts of discretion that law enforcement uses as to where, and when they do it. And it could have been done better. That's all I'm saying, Brad. I'm not excusing the violation of I-9 and all that kind of stuff and all that. I'm not doing that.

But you have to be smart. You have to think through the politics and the optics of things, too, not just the, well, the law is the law, is the law. You know, if the guy was an illegal alien operating a brain surgeon operating on someone and then you're up, nope, you got to go in and the patient dies. It's, well, I'm using an extreme example, but you know what I'm getting at. That's all. I do. And the only other thing I wanted to say is thank you so much for having Congressman Bents on. And in this redistricting discussion that we seem to be having nationally, what a wonderful reminder it is that here we have, you know, the state of Oregon right now, we, I think we've got, do we have five congressmen now? I thought we have six. okay if it's six he only he only has i think 17 percent i think that's what that is

yeah yeah and when it comes right down to it i think we're going to be losing our sixth seat here pretty soon that's the way it's looking in the world that's what that's what it looks like so the first time that she got filled it was lorry de roamer she's now secretary of uh employment but her labor but but the thing is is what a great example here we have a state that votes about, you know, we're going to say, what, maybe 30, 40, you know, 40 percent Democrat, 30 percent Republican reliably every election. And yet our one sole lone Republican congressman, that's only 17 percent of our state representation that we have a Congress because of the way Oregon is gerrymandered. Oh, yeah, absolutely. It's done. And that's

what they do. He's in a very safe district at this point. Chances are. not much is going to happen with this. I'm wondering what happens with La Maltha down in Siscue, don't you? Yeah, well, they're going to go after Doug, that's for sure. But he's also in a pretty safe district. But you're saying is if they do redistrict it, can they write Doug out of his own district? Yeah, and that's what they're talking about, in which you take a bunch or a little tiny sliver of the Bay Area and you just included in that district.

And then it just wipes out all the right way. wing-leaning people that are living in Siscue County for real. So what's he really representing, that kind of thing? Yeah, it's tough. But of course, you know, despite this so-called independent commission that supposedly did their district re-drawing, California is heavily gerrymandered. I mean, it's like, you know, you could only sharpen the pencil so far. Yeah, well, they're going to try to gerrymand it some more, though. But they are going to go to the voters to ask if they want to go there. Hey, brother, Brad, appreciate the call. Got a roll here because I got a Diner-62 quiz to play, okay?

You're right? Yay, Diner-62. Wait, do you want to play? Okay. What do you think? You want to play? No, I'll let you grab somebody. You'll let somebody else.

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So it was yesterday in 1888. 770563-3-770 KM&D. It is absolutely just a multiple choice. We'll make it really easy for you. Hey, today's clam chowder Friday, by the way, at diner's 62, rather, it's so good you'll think you're on the coast there right now. and recent breakfast. I don't know what they sent me this morning.

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This is the Bill Myers Show. The Diner 62 Real American Quiz, and we're going back to September 4th of 18th. 1888. Vicki's here from the Afflegate. Hi, Vicki. How are you? Good morning. Good morning, Vicki. We're going to have fun. I think this is a fun question. Fun question. And in 1888, inventor George Eastman got a patent for a small roll film hand camera, and he registers this trademark, Kodak, rather. And it was designed with a novice photographer. And the device optimizes ease of use. They had a pre-loaded role of film and a new box-style camera.

And it revolutionized photography, transforming the field from a specialized profession into a popular, widely adopted pastime. This is naturally before the cell phone camera. Okay. Right. And to promote its sheer simplicity, Eastman coined the slogan, you press the button, we do the rest. Now, the question for the win here, Vicky, how many exposures? Did Kodak's first camera allow? Because they built the film right into it when you bought the camera.

Was it five exposures? Was it 10 pictures? 25, 50, or 100 pictures. How many pictures in the first Kodak camera? Patented today in 1888. What do you think? Or yesterday. I'm going to say five.

You're going to say five. And that's what I thought. I lost. Brian always runs these questions by me. And I said, I don't know, five. There's a nice try, though. Let me go to Dave. Hello, Dave.

How are you? Good, Bill. How are you doing this morning? Fine. Well, we know it's more than five, okay, because Vicky took one for the team. You press the button. We do the rest. How many button times could you push on the first Kodak?

Is it 10, 25, 50, or 100? Well, Bill, there was a time when I used to work on Kodak film developing a question. witness, so I have a little bit of history, but this one kind of stumped me. Okay. I'm going to go with 25. You're going with 25 right there in the middle. I'm sorry, Dave. All right, Bill.

Going for the middle didn't work this time. Let me go to Tim. Hello, Tim. Hey, hi. How you doing, Bill? Good. Hey, we're just talking about the Kodak camera, and it was a big deal in 1888. Was it 10, 50, or 100 pictures on that first roll of film that they would give you?

I think 10. You're thinking 10. No, it wasn't that either. So we're going to keep going. Phil's here. Hello, Phil. Hi, Bill. We're talking about 50 or 100 exposure film.

How much was there? How many pictures could you take on that codec? Let me flip my coin here. I'll say 100. You'll say 100. Flip the coin. You're a winner. Yeah.

I would have just missed this one. I would have thought there is no way with how expensive stuff was back in that point that they would have given you 100 pictures on your first roll of film. But yeah, that's what happened. And George, by the way, born in New York, and after he dropped out of high school at 14 to support his widowed mom and sister, he took on all sorts of jobs. He went from a messenger boy and an insurance firm to a junior clerk at Rochester Savings Bank,

a career in banking seemed likely. But on a colleague's suggestion, and it's a really interesting story here, Phil, he bought a whole bunch of photographic equipment to record his trip to the Dominican Republic, and this is something he was doing, checking out a land boom. And Eastman described his complete outfit as a pack horse load. A huge camera required a heavy tripod, a tent for spreading photographic chemicals on the plate, a plate holder, chemicals, glass tanks. He never made that trip.

He became engrossed in photography and how he could come up with a better camera and make it simple for everyone. So he saw what he was going to have to take with. He said, I don't want to carry all this garbage with me. And the very first Kodak was sold in May of 1888 months before its patent was secured and within a year more than 5,000 Kodak cameras were sold.

Within 10 years, one photography journal estimated over 1.5 million Kodak cameras have been purchased, and it was a national hobby. So really, it's a great story how that all came to be. So, Phil, you hang on, and you're headed to Diner 62, and you can even take a picture of the meal and post it on your social media if you want. Probably not with a Kodak, though. Are you using extension cords outside? After all the seriousness of today here, we need Dad Joe.

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Thanks, Steve. I bet you're a lot of fun at the laundromat, aren't you? Let me go to Ron and Grant's Pass. Hey, Ron, how are you doing this morning? I'm going to wrap things up this morning. Yeah, thank you very much. And I wanted to comment on the Senate hearings on Kennedy yesterday. I thought they were a pack of rabid dogs and animals that were attacking him.

They never gave him a chance to respond. Why doesn't the leader of the Senate in that committee set a minimum of 30 seconds for the party who's being asked the question by the senators to respond, and they cannot interrupt him until he gets done? So, you know, something wrong with this picture. They have control. Why don't they set some kind of a minimum time that the respondent can answer? I don't know. I really don't know unless perhaps it's just considered, well, maybe it's all.

It's a giant roast. Well, yeah. Well, maybe it's about, well, maybe it's really not about getting to the truth of something, but just to be able to grandstand like Senator Wyden did, like Senator Royden did, like Senator Warren did, like Senator. Did you hear the one about Bernie? Did you hear Bernie when he was talking to? No, go ahead.

Yeah, here. Let me play a little bit of this. And I guess that Bernie thought that this was a good strategy. With scientific evidence. No, I did not. That's a yes or no. So you have an opportunity to call her a liar. Oh, no, wrong one.

Here we try this one. I think this is the one I'm talking about here. I'm a few seconds over. I don't think, Mr. Secretary. Oh, where's my Bernie? On the agenda for the next day. Where's my Bernie? I'm missing my, oh, here's the Bernie, bro.

We've got to get Bernie on. Representing hundreds of thousands of people have been co-opted and that they should not trust their doctors. And I'm the American Academy of Pediatrics. By the way, just for the record, every single Republican. I don't mean to be politically here, Mr. Chairman, has received packed money for the pharmaceutical industry. Yeah, and Bernie thought that that was actually a really good political strategy to say, Hey, we've all taken hundreds of thousands, if not millions, from Big Pharma.

And that meant we were just going to excuse it all here. That's what I was getting at, Ron. Okay? Yeah, yeah. Well, again, I don't know what's wrong with the leadership of the committee. He set the limit as to the minimum the person should have to respond. Kennedy never had a chance in 90% to respond to anything except a couple of Republicans. But I do think that he actually performed well overall.

and showed a lot of these individuals for the clowns that they were. So it wasn't so bad. He smiled when he was going out, all right. Ron, thanks so much. Have a great weekend. And email Bill of Bill Myers Show.com. I'll be back on Monday. We'll talk about things again.

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