Bill Meyer Show Podcast - Sponsored by Clouser Drilling www.ClouserDrilling.com - 09-09-25_TUESDAY_6AM

Episode Date: September 10, 2025

09-09-25_TUESDAY_6AM

The Bill Meyer Show podcast is sponsored by Klausur Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausor drilling.com. Here's Bill Meyer. Great to have you here on Pebble in Your Shoe Tuesday. It's a time which you can call and unburdened, share a little bit, something which has been bothering you, perhaps, and remove the pebble and reduce stress and cortisol. Everybody wins, okay?

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today's the fifth anniversary of the Almeida fires in interesting I look back we're going to talk with Greg Roberts had been about that and I think that there have been some real improvements over the last five years and it really

cheers me to be able to say that I think we're going to or have been doing a better job at informing people right now. I know one of the things that I complain most about was that Jackson County felt like it was sort of caught flat-footed.

I think we had an emergency manager who really wasn't an emergency manager but was more of a glorified grant writer. I mean, there's nothing wrong with having grant writers because, you know, getting the free government money is always a big deal, I guess, no matter where you are. But as far as actually putting out an emergency response, there wasn't nearly as much five years ago.

Now, to be fair, there weren't a whole lot of options. You know, when you're in a bowl and you have a 60-mile-an-hour wind event. By the way, Arson, and I know they still don't really want to talk about that openly, started in that Ashland Dog Park area, and then 50, 60-mile-an-hour winds ended up driving that up the Bear Creek Greenway into Phoenix Talent. Huge devastation. A few people lost their lives. And it was a rough time, a rough time here in southern Oregon. You can still see signs of it now and then.

A few months ago, I ended up going up into an old neighborhood that I lived in, which in Phoenix, I used to live on the corner of Rose right over by Phoenix High School, had the house there. And I figured for sure, for sure, that that happened. house on that corner that had all the great vines and everything else. In fact, still there right now. I thought for sure that that would have been torched in the inferno. They ended up going over there. The apartment complexes right next door were. I mean, that's just it. You would see these situations where you would have thought the entire place would have just gone up. And then there were some miracles. And then other places, not so lucky as it were. All the apartments that

that I knew that people lived in. Yeah, they were all gone. And I think we're doing a better job now of informing the emergency alert system didn't go off once that night. And I was scrambling trying to keep our stations on the air between the power failures and the internet failures and everything else. That was something we were really working hard on right now. That was back when we still had KMD AM. and generators down, the power is down, the phone lines are down, internet. It was really, it was quite a night.

I remember that. Plus, even in my own home, I was under evacuation notice. You know, get ready to leave if I had to. And we weren't sure what was going to happen in our particular deal. But Greg and I will kind of revisit a little bit of that next hour and talk about the good. Maybe some of the things we haven't learned yet. I don't know, but I think overall, I think the area is a little better prepared. Did you agree with me on that or not?

I don't know if this is a bad pebble in the shoe. I don't think it's a pebble in my shoe. I think that a pebble in our shoe has been removed over the years. I know that emergency management, I think, is taken more seriously in our counties now, and I think that's a good thing. Truth be told, when you have that kind of fire intensity and 60-mile-an-hour wind events, there isn't a whole lot of authorities really can do. It's so unpredictable and so powerful.

It doesn't matter how much. It doesn't matter how much you throw at it. You're not going to be able to direct it much. I do wish that we would have figured out, though, who actually set the original blaze, though. And I have my suspicions that this was a want-to-have-happened kind of event. Because everybody was talking about, oh, 50, 60 mile an hour wind events, red flag warning in effect that day.

By the way, I was on vacation that day. I was supposed to be on vacation that day and said, hey, the fires are coming. Huh? Yeah, kind of play, hurry up and catch up. That sort of thing. It's why I've often joked that, boy, I don't want to do any way. I'm not going on vacation. Every time I'm going on vacation, you know, places burned out and things go to hell.

We don't want to do that. But fortunately, it didn't happen in this last vacation. 17 minutes after 6 happy to get to your phone calls in just a moment I wanted to play a quick clip from President Trump yesterday and then I'll take your calls President Trump was at the Museum of the Bible Washington D.C.

And if you've never been there, it's a really interesting place. I went there once last time Linda and I were there together. It was a fascinating place to be. It really was. And I was never so sick in my life They had a ride there, which you get on this platform, and then they take this GoPro or some sort of a camera on a drone, and they take it all over Washington, D.C., and it goes into places, and it flies into areas where there are Bible verses around this or the other, and they rock the platform back and forth. Oh, my gosh, both Linda and I came this close to throwing up, but it was great. Just warning you, stand in the center of the platform, not on the edge.

where the animatronic platform or whatever that is is going to get you sick if you're a little bit motion sickness. But it was great. It was great. But he was speaking there yesterday saying that we will never apologize for faith. And he ended up bringing up the story of a Texas girl named Hannah. For most of our country's history, the Bible was found in every classroom in the nation. Yet in many schools today's students are instead indoctrinated with anti-religious propaganda. and some are even punished for their religious beliefs and very, very strongly punished.

It's ridiculous. Joining us this morning is Hannah Allen from Honey Grove, Texas. A few years ago, Hannah organized a group of her classmates to pray for an injured peer. The school principal declared that Hannah's generous act of love was prohibited from taking place in front of the other students. Didn't like it. The principal didn't like it. Can you imagine?

but Hannah very strongly stood her ground and she won and Hannah I just want to thank you for letting the light of your faith shine for all of those to see we really appreciate it and where is Hannah is Hannah here someplace I think so Hannah stand up please thank you very much thank you very much thank you Hannah I know what you went through I know what you went through it's great appreciate it to support students like hannah i'm pleased to announce this morning that the department of education will soon issue new guidance protecting the right to prayer in our public schools and it's totally yeah the right to prayer in public school

of course i don't know i remember being in a public school and i was praying especially when uh test came but yeah i'm just having a little fun with you on that but interesting of course it's it's kind of sad that we have to come up with a you know some rules and guidance to protect prayer in public school. All right. Still a good thing. 19 minutes after 6. Let's go to the phones here.

Hello, Deplorable, Patrick. I'll look back here at Almeida five years ago. What are you thinking? Good morning, Bill. Good morning. I'll be quick. You don't have to be quick.

I don't know. I just have to be good. What's on your mind? I'll try to do both. I'm on my way to work. This is why I'm going to have to be quick. All right. My daughter has Debbie's diner.

Oh, yeah? Phoenix. and she is she the debby she's amy when she bought the restaurant she kept the name the same oh she did not so she's amy springer and uh anyway when the fire broke out they evacuated and she gave the fire department permission to use her parking lot as a camp uh as a low care base right and so they said well that was your nice her and when the fire got close, they protected her building with their water. If they weren't there putting water on that building, it would have burned. Because isn't that right, isn't

Debbie's like right next door to the, uh, the old Harley dealership location? Yes. And, uh, yes. So, so it's a pretty popular place down there. No doubt. You know, the, uh, one thing which still has not been addressed here. And that's something maybe I'll talk with Greg next hour about is what about the fire hydrant capacity? Because, you know, everything that we do now, I mean, they just share the same water supply that the regular folks flushing their toilets do. And all it takes is a couple of homes to burn down and then all the plastic piping melting. and then all the waters just starts flowing out of the water main and gushing out. It only takes a few of those kind of homes to happen,

and before all of a sudden you have no water for your fire hydrant. We haven't really addressed that, have we? I haven't heard of any addressing of it. Yeah, yeah. So a big reservoir, putting a reservoir up there would be good, huh? Yeah. Just for fire? Well, maybe a separate line system,

but of course that would be very expensive, probably a longer-term solution. Hey, appreciate the call there, D.P. Let me go to Greg. Hello, Greg. How are you this morning? Welcome. Well, I'm just enjoying this miracle we call life. Thank you.

Glad to hear it. What's on your mind? Well, you brought up fire and fire preparedness, I assume. There are some things that people are laboring under misconceptions about. What would that be? Well, for one thing, these easements, You know, I got kicked off of some city property. I'm not going to mention what city.

But for weed whacking during legal weed whacking hours in a city park, I showed up there and I had my tools with me. I carry them all the time pretty much during that season. And anyway, there was a trail there. It was growed up knee-high and dry grass. So I thought, well, I'll just jump out and I'll whack that down. of mineral soil, and there will be a usable trail, and it'll be a fuel break as well. So I went to work, and after just a few minutes, a very nice lady showed up and greeted me.

I shut everything down, and I greeted her, and she immediately said, do you have permission to do this? Well, no, ma'am, I don't. Well, then you need to stop because I'm a city council person, and this is a liability issue. So I stopped, and I went to see the city manager. I was told, yep, that's right, you can't do that. So I went to the city council meeting and was immediately told, yep, that's right, you can't do that. But I persisted, and eventually there was a nonprofit group that said, well, you could help us one day a year when we do our cleanup.

Oh. Well, I'd do more than that, and I persisted. And eventually, I was able to sign a waiver. and if I have supervision by a non-profit group that has insurance that will cover my liability, I'm now allowed to help the city, but only with supervision. At first, I was wondering if they were going to stop you because you'd have the SEIU folks or something coming after you because you were, you know, helping get rid of a union job for free, I guess. Well, you know, there's always that, but just real quick, I want to follow through now.

this is important. So then I went to the county offices and the state offices in White City. They're right next door to each other down there. I spent most of the one morning going back and forth between those two offices trying to get permission to weave whack on their easements so that some damn idiot can't just throw out a cigarette or something and start a fire. And so I'm willing to do that. I've got other volunteers who say, yes,

help you do that, Greg. I cannot get permission from any government entity at all unless we form a nonprofit organization. I know they've got a black guy right now, but that's what you've got to do. Now, I'm not going to do this, but I will help anyone do it. I know how to do all this. I was shown by a very capable, wonderful lady who walked me through this process before. Okay, well, how complex is it to weed whack, Greg? I'm sorry to, you know, is there some particular procedure you have to take when you're doing it on a government easement as contrasted with our front yard? Just curious. Well, I don't know all the exact government regulations.

All I know is you can't even get started unless you form a nonprofit organization and get insurance. and then you can get permission supposedly. Okay, well, get insurance for what is what I'm wondering? Well, if you get hurt, they don't want to be liable. If you put somebody's eyeball out, if you throw a rock and it gets the windshield, I don't know, you know, there's lots of things can happen with weed whack, and that's a fact. Okay, yeah, yeah, I suppose you're right about that. And how much does it cost to insure a weed whacker to go around and volunteer?

here to take down, you know, fire-prone weeds? That's a real good question. You know, I almost started my own business once, and I sent off for the packet to the state. I cost a couple hundred bucks at that time. I went through all the things. I was going to get licensed insured. I had everything lined up, and I was reading that packet.

And in there, it said this, if you're ever on a job anywhere, and there's someone there that's not license and bonded, you have to turn them in. And if you don't, you can get in trouble. You can lose your license. And so I just threw the whole shit and thing away instead of hell with it. I don't need to have a business.

Yeah, you see, and look at that. Here it is you're willing to actually help out. And the accreditation factor, the licensing, the bonding, and yet any of us can just walk down and get a weed whacker and do it. Now, I understand, you know, you just want to follow the rules. You don't want to do it using metal appliances or anything that can cause sparks during fire season. at that, right? You know, but do you have to go through a whole licensing and bonding thing to figure that kind of stuff out here, Greg? Well, you know what? I call all this government by the

lowest common denominator. They got to make all these rules and regulations so the most ignorant, stupid, clueless individual in the world. Can't go wrong hardly if they just follow the rule. Okay, just follow the rules. Yeah, whatever isn't permitted is required. I think that's the kind of society you're talking about. Greg, thanks for sharing me, sharing your story there. Wow. I'm hoping that there is a way for a good person to want to whack the weeds down without having to form a yet another nonprofit organization. But that's just me. Because you can't do it on an individual basis, I guess. Liability, liability, the lawyers. 28 after 6. I'm from Jay Austin, and I'm on KMED.

Keith writes me, by the way, the email Bill at Billmeyer's show.com. Hey, Bill. Speaking of the Almita Fire Recovery, what's up with that Highway 99 repair going on in that area? Is it a road diet? Kind of curious? No, if you're in the area that I'm thinking of here just outside the city of Phoenix, they started that project a little bit earlier this year. Now, there may be a road diet aspect of it.

I've not heard about that. I haven't seen it for a few weeks here, Keith. but I remember that started up is having to do with adding a lot of those manufactured home parks onto the Phoenix water system which is then serviced by the Medford water system

and they ended up having to put bigger pipes in there to make that happen. It's replacing the water main and I believe that is what is going on there. But on the other hand there could be another ODOT deal in which we're saying you know four lanes we can make three lanes do the work of four, or we can make two lanes do the work of four. We can put bicycle bum lanes on the side and then a center turn lane.

I don't know if they're doing that to get the whole story. I'd have to stop by, and I just haven't traveled in that area over the last few weeks. So nothing would surprise me, but I do know that they were putting in the water mains to help out some of those community developments, those rebuilt areas. Okay? All right. Captain Carol Lieberman. Captain Carol Lieberman, Dr. Carol Lieberman, MD, is going to join the program here in a little bit. America's psychiatrist. Why isn't everybody so angry?

Are people grabbing baseballs out of kids' hands and things like that? Yeah, you remember that one, the Philadelphia, Karen. That was quite a story. Although, from what I understand, Dad didn't fight too hard on that one, but we'll go into that and we'll get into. Also, is there 9-11 post-traumatic stress, terrorist fatigue? these days. What's going on? We'll take it around with Dr. Carroll coming up. I'm John. I'm Lucy. And this is our timber tech story. The Bill Meyer Show on KMED, Southern Oregon's place to talk. Dr. Carol Lieberman, MD, MPH, known worldwide as America's psychiatrist. She's the host of Dr.

Carol's coach on voiceamerica.com. Terrorist Therapist Podcast has the little registered trademark bubble next to that too. Forensic psychiatrist. expert witness. She does it all. She's everywhere. She's everywhere. And I'm just proud to have her back on the program. If I was ever going crazy, I would call her first. Welcome back, Doctor. Thank you. Thank you.

Hey, I wanted to touch on there are so many things involving I don't know, people coming unhinged these days. And one of the questions I wanted to ask you, and we didn't get a chance to talk about this last week, but it had to do with the

Minnesota transgender shooter. Okay. And we seem to be getting a lot of these lately, or at least it's enough that they're finally starting to show up in the news world, in the news cycle. And many seem to be having a propensity of going violent and going after religious institutions, religious schools and such. And as a psychiatrist, was it all that long ago that transgenderism was actually considered just a full-blown mental illness or what is it? Because there have been questions about whether or not they should be permitted to purchase firearms because it's kind of prima facie evidence that all right if you can't believe what you really are then you know maybe you know you don't have your oars in the water so to speak what do you think well here this is a very um tricky subject this is a very complicated subject um because first of all there's the issue of there are people who are authentically trans, in other words, because of hormones that were floating in their mother's body while they were growing in the womb and all that, and then because of

different relationships that they have with their mother and their father during their young childhood, you know, these kinds of things can turn someone, actually, you know, authentically LGBTQ plus, trans. And, but, you know, the majority of people these days, that's not what it is, it's people who have been coerced, convinced, told that, you know, okay, you're unhappy. Well, the answer to your problems is just to go the opposite sex that you were born as. Yes, the cool, new hot trend, right? Exactly. In social relationships.

And social media also, you know, you want to get likes. So if you say you're going to a doctor's appointment, you get hormones, you get all these likes, all kinds of pressures to do that and all kinds of lies. basically, propaganda to convince people that that is the solution to their problems. Unfortunately, a lot of people are finding out once they go through the whole change, that this isn't the answer. Now, as far as guns, you know, so that's one part of it. As far as guns, I think it's a very slippery slope to start banning certain classes of people from having guns because, you know, this is what Democrats want to do, extreme leftists want

to do to, anytime there's some kind of a school shooting or any kind of mass shooting, the first thing is, oh, well, let's take away the guns. Now, it's not the guns that caused these shootings. It's the people. And the typical profile of a school shooter or a church shooter, or any kind of mass shooter, is that they come from a dysfunctional household. They were neglected or abused. They played way too many hours of violent video games.

They have some kind of mental illness that was either not addressed at all or poorly addressed, insufficiency addressed. And then something tips them off. You know, there's some event that finally brings it to the four. But so the answer really isn't, you know, I mean, yes. I know there was the trans person in Tennessee not that long ago, and she left a manifesto, and the current one left a manifesto. I'm just surprised, though, at the number, though, of especially men identifying as women, transgender, that seem to have, there appears to be a high propensity of violence and self-loathing within a lot of that.

I can't help but notice. Well, yes, in all these cases, not just the men that change into women, but vice versa, too, because obviously they hate themselves for who they were, who they were born as, who they really are. You know, of course, they say that they feel that they are the opposite sex. But, and when it's a church, you know, like Tennessee and this one in Minneapolis, both of those people went to those schools. And, you know, I think that there was also had to have been some, I mean, in these Catholic Christian schools where they don't believe in LGBTQ plus, there had to have been some sense,

some resentment for being told, you know, that that is bad. Now, I know they hadn't, at least in Minneapolis, he had changed, well, he changed, He asked for his name to be changed when he was 17, and his mother signed the papers for it because he was a minor. I mean, you know, there's really – it's the family dynamics primarily that lead to these things. And for girls who want to be boys, you know, and get hormones, like the one in Tennessee, you know, there's that, too, because, of course, these male hormones can create violence, can, you know, spur one to violence, like, Royd rage and all of that. You don't know if you heard about what the AFL-CIO in Oregon is doing. And they're wanting to go out and push a ballot measure, a citizen initiative, that would make all of this, all of this a protected class.

As a psychiatrist, do you think that's a good idea? I know I'm asking you to comment on a political deal, but they mean all of trans people being a protected class? Oh, protected class and that you can do what you want and you can get your health care. I can't help but notice that they said they're kind of focusing on health care, which I think means when they say health care, it's usually taxpayers have to pay for their surgeries and hormones. Right, right. Well, I think that's outrageous. You know, I think, I mean, if people, well, first of all, you know, there's a movement to try to stop these clinics altogether.

that provide this care, and I am all for that, because really, you know, it is such a conveyor belt. It is really, it's abuse. It's child abuse. It's getting these people in, you know, taking advantage of whatever it is that's ailing them, which might be they might be upset about their parents getting divorced. They might be upset about their best friends having dumped them. They might be upset about a whole bunch of things. And they get easily swayed into believing that it's something that they can fix, you know, Like, if you were really depressed and your teacher, someone you trusted and believed in, said, oh, well, you'll feel much better if you do this.

So really, it's to protect them, ultimately, from being put on this conveyor belt. You know, when the medical, whether it's therapists or other kinds of doctors, regular doctors, you know, family doctors, whoever is involved in this, on this conveyor, with this conveyor belt in these individual clinics, they don't give the person enough time. They don't talk to them enough to really figure out what is going on, you know, whether it really is a case of transgenderism. You know, if they really were born in the, if it's authentic, or if it's just this, you know, quick fix, that's not so quick. Yeah, trying to put a Band-Aid on the pathologies of their life there. Dr. Carol Lieberman with me, I can't help it.

You know, people like you and me and listeners, we're all kind of paid to notice things, doctor. And I couldn't help but wonder if what has really been driving the trans, the trans craze here has been the fact that the medical world has been able to make millions, if not billions of dollars, doing this. I mean, and you have a- Well, that's where I was going, yes, absolutely. Oh, you think there's something to us because it's like you have a permanent, you have a permanent, you have a, permanent patient. Right. You're going to have the trait here.

Can't help notice that. Absolutely. And yeah, that's what I was saying. Not only do they not spend enough time really figuring out what's going on with the patient, but yes, it's a quick, and why spend time when you can just start the process, you know? And then, of course, it's hard. There are people, and this person in Minneapolis, he actually, the ultimate trigger was, you know, he couldn't, He got angry at himself and at the world and at the school.

For, he said, I'm tired of being trans. He was angry that he had begun this process, and he was, you know, somewhere, I haven't been able to find out. Yeah, didn't he say something like he was upset that he had brainwashed himself is how he termed it, I think. That's what he said. Yes, exactly. And I kind of felt bad about that because he really didn't brainwash himself. I mean, he was brainwashed by people around him. know, but in any case, yes, it's, you know, it's a bunch of things coming together, the people,

the medical profession who wants to make money, I mean, especially this is coming at a time when insurance companies are really paying ridiculously low amounts for things, for doctors. So here's this gold mine all of a sudden, you know, you can just tell the person, oh, this is what you have to do. So it's really, but, so in a way he could be the poster boy for to warn people not to do this so quickly. But also his mother had a lot of problems. I think that the main issue was his mother. And his parents got divorced when he was going through puberty.

You know, you can put together a whole bunch of things that could explain why he, what happened to him. But his mother, I don't know if you heard about this, that his mother had given up a little girl for adoption. No, I had not heard that. I didn't hear that part. Oh, boy. When she was a baby, when the little girl was the baby and her mother gave birth to her, she gave her up for adoption. And eventually, this woman found her way back, found out who her biological mother was and came and visited the family. And at that time, the boy was three.

And so, you know, that played a part as well because, and then the mother and the mother and daughter kind of kept in touch, and she acted in a, or played herself in a movie in a documentary that the daughter made about her being given up for adoption. And so, which, you know, happened later. So he was seeing all of this. So, you know, what's the message that comes across? It's that the mother, like, lost a daughter. So I'll be the daughter that the mother lost.

And daughter more valuable than son, maybe, too. Right, yeah. Interesting. Dr. Carol Lieberman, MD, once again, America's psychiatrist, and she's the host of Dr. Carol's couch on VoiceAmerica.com. Wanted to shift. Thanks a lot. I think we pretty much cover that one.

And that was interesting. I wanted to get your take on it. I'm glad we finally did. You were kind of concerned as we're going up here on, what is it, the 24th anniversary of 9-11 this Thursday. And you're kind of concerned where the nation finds itself psychiatrically on this kind of situation where we're not really kind of firing on all cylinders. Is that a fair way of putting it, what you're feeling right now these days, doctor? Well, yes.

But just to just give a little background, when 9-11 happened in 2001, that is what changed my life because I'm a born-and-bred New Yorker. and at that time I was already in California but that is when I realized that terrorism was going to be the most dangerous thing in our lives affecting us in our lives and we've had a bit of a reprieve during COVID so people have gotten really complacent you know thinking we're not going to have any more attacks here

and we are more in danger now than we were on 9-11 so when 9-11 happened as I was trying to say I became the terrorist therapist and yes, I trademarked it. And I have been helping people cope with terrorism in America, of course, starting out, and then in Paris and in London and in Manchester. And now in Israel, I'm volunteering to help people over Zoom in Israel, you know, affected by 10-7. And so, but not only that, I've written two books on terrorism, and I do a podcast,

the terrorist therapist show. I'm really into terrorism. And I have been trying to warn people, not just helping people cope, but warn people that it is not over. The terrorists, a thousand years from a thousand years ago, have been planning to take over the West. And they have been making great headway in the last five, well, since, in the last five years, especially, really. It's been about that time that they have been taking over Europe, bit by bit. England is gone. it's like oh england's gone england's over for the english for the english people yes

yes and um and and it's it's just unbelievable that that that that it's happening that you know that the citizens have allowed this to happen um and it's happening but the thing is you know we look at but isn't a lot of this because of the oh you can't be against the migrants is that part of it exactly exactly and if you are it's Islamophobia well but what this is This is like a suicidal compact, is what we're... Exactly. And, you know, they believe, I mean, this is a deep, deep-seated belief. It's what they live for to make their God, Allah, happy, so that when they die, you know, they get rewarded.

If they die as martyrs, I mean, like all the Hamas people who, you could see when they ran into Israel, how, you know, their eyes, they were, there was a release. religious zeal. But it's not just in Israel. Israel is the canary in the coal mine, but now we have more terrorist cells in all over America than ever before. They're not necessarily all hiding. Some of them are hiding. Some of them are out in public. In Texas, for example, and even in Florida of all places, well, both Texas and Florida, you would think they would be the least likely states for radical Islamists to start building big mosques and building communities only for Muslims. Now, I know I always have to say not all terrorists are Muslim and not all Muslims are terrorists,

but that is the majority. Punching above the way, right, in the population. Fair enough, right? Sure. Okay. And it's true that there aren't many Muslims that I know of who are trying to stop these terrorists. So, but, so now in the past four years, we've been having all kinds of people cross over

the border, including terrorists on the terrorist watch list, and terrorists who aren't even on the watch list, they, they, you know, when they do attack, they yell, Al-Hu Akbar, and our God is the greatest. It's not God is great. It's our God is the greatest. So clearly this is a religious zeal. They are driven to do this. they are taught to do this from the time that they're a little kids.

What's interesting, and this is something people don't really know about, I mean, a lot of people, too. I'm not saying I'm the only person in the world, but it has certainly the mainstream media has not talked about it. There's a red-green alliance. The red-green alliance, the red is the progressives, the socialist, communists, and the green is for the terrorists. And so they have formed an alliance, and what they have in common is that, desire to destroy America. Now, they have a lot of things that they don't have in common. I mean, for example, the progressives, you know, socialist, they believe in LGBTQ plus and all that.

And, of course, the terrorists would throw them off the roof. Sure. Then there are the college protesters, you know, who have been shouting their allegiance to Hamas and basically the useful idiots of terrorists. and they are manipulated by terrorists, and they'd be willing to fight for their cause against America. I mean, they even say down with America. So is it kind of so, even though the red and the Green Alliance would not necessarily agree on some of these things, like you just mentioned, though, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Yes, yes. They are both there. They have made a pact to work together to bring the downfall of America, And then once they've done that, then they'll start fighting with each other, you know, about the other things that they don't agree on. Yeah, yeah, the, you know, radical Muslim, radical Islam wins then. And then now it's kind of like useful idiot, LGBTQ fan up against the wall, right? That kind of thing. Right.

Yeah. Right. Now, I have to ask you, though, because breaking news just came out of the New York Times this morning, got to mention it, that Zoran Mamdani, Yes. Leading in the mayor's race. He is leading on top of all of this. What is this indicating to you psychiatrically with what's going on? That is, yes.

I'm glad you brought that up. I was going to mention that. That is, if there's one thing that should terrify Americans, not just New Yorkers, it is the fact that a man and who is a terrorist, essentially, could be elected as the mayor of New York. You know, we're not talking about Minnesota or Minneapolis. We're talking about New York. And, yes, 24 years after 9-11, and they're voting for a terrorist for mayor. I mean, hello, he would be, he would, he would do to New York, what the mayor of London did to London,

who was also a radical Islamist. I mean, this is the thing. They are creeping, but, you know, when 9-11 happened, and I decided that I was going to, you know, this was going to be my cause. That was before Israel got attacked, but anyway, I started learning about terrorism because I really didn't know very much about it by that point. And I, you know, went into depth and I went to all kinds of conferences and had these mentors who were experts in terrorism and so on.

And what they said back in 2001 was that, was that the way the terrorists were going to take over America wasn't necessarily by more attacks. I mean, yes, there are going to be more attacks. But also, it was by gradually, you know, they have time. It was by gradually getting into the media, getting into politics, and getting into education, getting into higher and higher positions in these fields.

And that is what has happened, you know? and certainly Mandami takes the cake. He's, you know, this is the most obvious example of it. Well, you can also look at other areas of the country, well, how we jokingly refer to Dearborn, Michigan is Dearbornistan, right? Yes, right. And then the squad in Congress. I mean, you know, and then schools, of course, you know,

schools where they don't acknowledge 9-11. I mean, there are people in schools, same ones. who are trying to gradually influence the students. And, of course, the media, you know, the media that doesn't acknowledge that something is a terror attack unless until they have to, until, you know, days later, like if someone got a picture of the person who committed the attack, and it looked like it was a radical Islamist, you know, eventually they had, or eventually they'd give out the name. but so so so so this has been happening certainly since 9-11 and if not before he really even before

but but certainly since and and so we are really in more danger and we are more complacent than ever you know it's like two things where we're more complacent than ever and we're in more danger than ever so this is a ripe time for a terrorist to um to do well for for well it Yeah, well, you're right. Well, normalcy bias is strong right now. Well, everything's been pretty fine for a number of years. It hasn't been all that bad. Yeah, we have an occasional bit of a violence breakout.

But, yeah, I will agree with you that complacency is strong in the moment. And by the way, Mom Donnie, who is number one of those New York City mayor polls, it's the same sort of thing. We're going to close more jails. We're going to release criminals. We're not going to go out there and arrest people. We're going to send social workers. over to it. It's just, right, boy, talk about mayor chaos. Like, we haven't seen this happen

in other cities before. Yes, right, absolutely. And it's shocking that, you know, New York has the biggest Jewish population in the city in America. And, you know, it is shocking that there are some Jews who are even supposedly, we'll see what happens, but who are planning it. I mean, he's offering all, everything is going to be free. The buses are going to be free. After school, what do you call it, like, you know, after-school activities, they're going to be free. All kinds of the state is really crazy stuff, and people don't understand. Crazy stuff. The government is going to own the grocery stores.

I mean, that's what they do in communism, and it hasn't worked out well for them, you know? Yeah, well, of course, he's very shrewd, I would say, concentrating on checkbook issues like that or pocketbook issues like that on cost of living, because cost of living is an issue. And he's focusing really on this, but it's the free lunch, right? Here's the free lunch for you, and you'll be happy. But lately, there was just something about how, in the most recent this past week, when he was asked about how he was going to pay for these things, he hasn't been able to come up with any great answers for that.

So there's a little bit of where he's losing a little steam, but I guess he's gotten a lot. I don't know. I hope, what I'm hoping for is that Trump will offer Adams some kind of a job to take that instead of May. Because the problem is there are three people running against Moundani. Yes. And that is giving him the advantage.

Yeah, too much ticket splitting going on right now is what's going on. Exactly, exactly. All right. Dr. Carol Lieberman, MD. I appreciate the analysis, both of the psychiatric world. I just want to, I know we're at a time, but I just want to mention one thing. Sure. This year is going to be my fifth year that I am having a truck going around Manhattan with my music video on it about 9-11 and warning people about dangers, you know, that we're in great danger and making it more obvious.

And also my book, Lions and Tigers and Terrorists, Oh My, How to Protect Your Child in a Time of Terror, something that will become a necessity in every household very soon. Okay, well, from your lips here, Dr. Carol Lieberman. And what is the best main website for people to go to? Well, if they go to Terrorist Therapist.com, they will actually be able to see the video that is going to be playing around New York on 9-11 so they can see it on the website. All right, very good. Dr. Carroll, thank you so much. I know we covered a lot of ground, a lot of different subjects this morning, but there's a lot of crazy going around,

and I had to ask you about it, okay? Thank you. There is. All right, you're welcome. Be well. This is KMED and KMED HDHT1 Eagle Point Medford. KBXG grants pass on the Bill Meyer show.