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Episode Date: September 11, 2025

09-11-25_THURSDAY_7AM

Bill Meyer's show podcast is sponsored by Klauser Drilling. They've been leading the way in southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausor drilling.com. News Talk 1063, KMED. This is the Bill Myers Show. 7 o'clock, and this is KMED, KMED, H.D1, Eagle Point, Medford, KBXG, Grants Pass. Town Hall, the latest on the news, including, of course, what happened with Charlie Kirk, the Charlie Kirk assassination.

We'll have more on that. Continue that conversation, even though I had Kevin Starrant on for, you know, talking about legal issues with firearms and the way of some people were sentenced here in Southern Oregon last week, or earlier this week, actually, it's when this ended up happening. I invited them back in because we were talking about this, and I don't know, are we entering an age of assassination? We'll explore that and a bunch more. Kevin will join me in a few minutes after the Hannity Update, Town Hall News, and a bunch more. Brian Weldon emailed me. By the way, my email is Bill at Billmyershow.com. It says, Bill, we are organizing a tribute in a memorial today on the Grants Pass Courthouse Lawn, Josephine County Courth Lawn at 12 noon today in remembrance both of the September 11th attacks

and the murder of Charlie Kirk. Very sad day. Brian, thanks for letting us know about that. That is 12 noon today, Josephine County Courthouse. Speaking of Josephine County, Leva Herrera is going to join. in my program a little bit more than an hour from now at 810. And I invited her on because what she's been doing, she is a PCP within the Josephine County Republicans.

And kind of a digger and researcher and connecting dots with the political attacks going on here in Southern Oregon and taking her focus on, well, at least placing her focus on indivisible, whether it is indivisible, or two or the other iterations of Indivisible. There is a lot going on in Southern Oregon politics, progressive politics, left-wing politics, and attacks on conservatives that are coming from that direction. It's a big deal. But we don't really hear a whole lot about it, and Aleva has just been doing an incredible job,

and I think she's putting together a documentary. I'll talk with more about this, but I just wanted to find out, Who is it? Where does it go? How deep does it go? And she says, they're actually quite open about it. And I said, well, you know, I don't hear a lot about Indivisible in Jackson County. And I said, why is that? I asked her about this yesterday on the phone before and by the they were on the show. And she says, well, it's because most of these individual, or a lot of the indivisible folks live in Joe County for whatever reason or in the Grants Pass area. And then the other branch of Indivisible tends. to hang out in Ashland for the most part. So we have a couple of versions of the Progressive Club, if you want to call it that. But, you know, any time you have the hissy fitters showing up at whether it's Greg Walden or Cliff Bent's or something like that, you know, murderer, oh, you're cutting health care for illegal aliens. Or no, you know, you're just, you're just cutting health care, you know, all that kind of stuff. It's usually indivisible.

And I think it's a good idea to understand who and where these people are, okay? We'll talk about that about an hour from now, okay? Town Hall News and the rest of it coming up, and then Kevin Starritt, and then your calls on Conspiracy Theory Thursday. Kennedygold.com. Here's Bill Meyer. It's great to have you here. It is Conspiracy Theory Thursday, and boy, I have to tell you, this is a conspiracy theory

Thursday to beat Conspiracy Theory Thursdays, at least in tone, I guess, and an emotional feeling here. It's been an emotional last 24 hours or so. Actually, well, I wasn't expecting it to be that way, though. You know, it wasn't until later in the morning, and, you know, I had Kevin stare at all in yesterday where we were talking about gun crimes and the way the judiciary was dealing with it here in Oregon. It doesn't look like it was all that well. It was the general consensus. And then Kevin, of course, it holds down at Oregon Firearms Federation, Oregon Firearms.org.

And then, you know, we start reaching out to one another like, like, holy, holy moly, you know, what happens? You know, Charlie Kirk is shot, and then Charlie Kirk is dead. And now here we are off into an assassination conspiracy theory Thursday. So, Kevin, welcome back. And one of the things you were telling me yesterday, and I think this is probably one of the most important things to take away from this right now, is that the first, what, 48, 72 hours or so, we really don't know much, nor will be. Because it'll be changed so much, the story, you know, the initial way the story was reported.

What do you say? Well, of course, you know, what we know is we know what we saw. We saw Charlie Kirk get shot. So that happened. We knew that. The rest of the details are always wrong. Every single time are wrong because you've got news organizations that have to say something. And then they start reporting rumors. And then somebody posts something on X and everyone assumes or treats it like its gospel and repeats it and amplifies it. closet. So we, you know, the first, I mean, initially they'd arrested an older guy who apparently was in the crowd. Yeah, I remember that was the first one and we thought, okay, they got the guy and this was the guy that looked a lot like Bernie Sanders. He was down on his knees, right? Remember that picture? And it went everywhere instantly when that came out. Sure. Which, why wouldn't it? I mean, he was arrested fairly roughly, you know? And then there was talk of a rifle shot from 200 yards away and And then, okay, and then somebody was in custody, and then somebody else was in custody.

And so the details of it are anyone's guests, and I don't know that I would rely on anything that was reported for at least another couple of days. And even then, you know, I would be very hesitant because once it gets into stuff like what type of gun was used, most reporters have no idea what they're talking about. So they'll, you know, everything's an AR-15 or a Glock. And so the fact, I mean, I do think it's interesting that they're reported that this was a bolt action rifle, but I'm going to wait and see. But for me, it's just, you know, other people have really have kind of discussed this or written about this in a way, you know, far better than I could. It was a very great, you know, a substack from Andy know yesterday. And even the actuality that was played during your news break from Trump is exactly right on the. the climate for this kind of thing has been created and amplified over and over and over again,

where the statistics show that a significant number of liberals and Democrats believe that political assassination is okay to believe that shooting the president or shooting someone like Charlie Kirk is acceptable. Well, when you have had Charlie Kirk presented to these individuals as literal Hitler, using that term, and if you had the opportunity to kill literal Hitler, and let's face it, Charlie Kirk is not exactly what I would have called a firebrand. He was a very reason guy would sit there, and he would talk. He would just, you know, talk with you. That's probably what made him, you know, a couple of days ago, I saw a clip of, I don't want to use a word debate, but that's the closest thing to come up to because that's what Charlie would do. He'd go to colleges. And he'd offered a debate all the students. And he was so good at it. He was so – he had every fact, every quote, every biblical scripture at his fingertips. He demolished these people.

But the one that I remember that stood out to me was there was this young college-age girl he was talking to. And I'm trying to be kind here, although I'm having really struggling with this, this girl who's clearly a product of American education, An utter and complete moron says to Charlie, screams at Charlie, Clarence Thomas wants to ban interracial marriage. And I'm sitting there. Wait a minute. Clarence Thomas is married to a white woman. Right.

Ginny Thomas. I've spoken to Ginny. You know, she's extremely white, okay? Yeah. And Charlie responded to say, wait a minute. Clarence Thomas is in an interracial marriage. And I thought, this is the quality of the young people that are being produced. not all, of course. I mean, God bless, there's many young people in Turning Point prove that.

What, there's an enormous number of intelligent, active, passionate young people out there. But the ones that are coming off college campuses are brainwashed vegetables and zombies. But in addition to that, there's a climate that's been created that everybody is a Nazi. Everybody is a fascist. Southern Poverty Law Center, that collection of disgusting, reprehensible reptiles. they put Turning Point on their hate map. Now, if you've ever listened to Charlie Kirk or know any of the kids in Turning Point, that kind of accusation is beneath reprehensible. But that's what they do.

You put someone on a hate map, and you basically said, it is okay to exterminate these people. And even the quote that I just read from the head of the Oregon Democrat Party, Nathan Salts, he's condemning the killing of Charlie Kirk, but he starts by saying, no matter how abhorrent we find someone's views, well, I'm sorry, but what had Charlie Kirk ever said that could be classified that way? Well, you have to understand, though, to disagree with the agenda to say that a man is a man and a woman is a woman is considered hateful speech within this group.

It's all about hate. It's all about hate speech. They just some clown commentator on one of the cartel media, they claimed he was just fired because that's what Charlie Kirkett. Hey, hang on. Let me play that because I have that clip here of the guy you're talking about. This is Matthew Dowd. And he was fired from MSNBC for comedy. He got fired for what he just said here.

I'm going to play for you. But following up what was just said, he's been one of the most divisive, especially divisive younger figures in this who is constantly sort of pushing this sort of hate speech or sort of aimed at certain groups. And I always go back to hateful thoughts, lead to hateful words, which then lead to hateful actions. In other words, he had it coming to him, right? Right. The left has now, they've monopolized the idea of hate.

And hate is anything that they disagree with. But it's not, it is so extreme. I was in a city council meeting in the little. town of Canby, Oregon. And sitting next to me was a woman, a young woman who I knew did not live there. And I had it like a binder on her lap with a bumper sticker that said, punch a Nazi in the face. And I was like, excuse me, I'm looking around the room. Could you identify the Nazis for me, please? But it's the same thing. Like, after yesterday you and I talked about what happened to Mike Strickland after he defended himself at a Black Lives Matter riot and was convicted of 15

felonies after having harmed nobody. After that event, Strickland was invited, I believe it was the PSU, probably because it was a Portland College, to speak. And as soon as he walked in the room, leftists came in with cowbells and disrupted it and would not allow him to say a word. And this is the tactic of the left, is to silence everybody else. They have nothing to say they can't defend their points of view, but they'll silence you. And of course, this was tolerated by the school. you know, everywhere Strickland went, he was in danger, it was tolerated by, it's tolerated by the police, it's tolerated by the school, and it is not a very long distance between cowbells and bullets. Once you've normalized the idea that anyone who speaks, discusses, contains, beliefs in what you and I, for a better, one of a better phrase, we'd call traditional values, you know, those people must be silenced at any cost. And so this probably should not be coming as a surprise. And, you know, Andy, knows substack yesterday, talk about what happened to him, where he's been brutally attacked.

People showed up, you know, deranged people would show up at his elderly parents' house with guns, threatening to kill him. And the police do nothing when he, and that's why he wanted to come back to Portland. I read that substack. He wanted to come back to Portland, but he figured there's just no way that he could do this safely and survive. Absolutely. And when he, when he gives this information to that real estate rag, the Oregonian, they refuse to publish it because they don't want to be seen as saying anything that puts him in a positive light. So what else should we expect? You know, I mean, it's, I think you and I were both affected by this far more than maybe we would have anticipated. Yeah. Because Charlie Kirk, you know, I didn't know Charlie Kirk,

I knew people who worked with him. But the guy was an extremely intelligent, passionate guy, who proved that his, he defended his point of view brilliantly, and he did it incredibly articulately, and the people he was debating had nothing to say except you're a Nazi, you're a Nazi. And this is what we've come to, and bad enough that this bizarre mental fog has taken over a significant part of the country. But then the authorities or the institutions that are supposed to reflect some kind of sanity, like the media, or like the police, or like the leadership of the city of Portland, they all justify this and protect this, where you have, you know, you have students who destroy college campuses and then city council members of Portland say, well, that college is

not going to get any money until those students are completely exonerated and charges are dropped. Like, this is okay. You know, for crying out loud, I'm sorry, but we see all the mandatory X tweets from politicians saying this is reprehensible. You know, like Jeff Helford yesterday, this is not the Oregon way. We don't solve our problems with bullets. You know, that's absolute. Okay, see, this is a, yeah, there is a friend of the show who used to call a number of years ago. His name was Paul in Talent, and I don't know where he is now, but I remember when he called me, says, Bill, there's a reason why people use political violence because it works.

And I've always remembered that, and he's absolutely, he was absolutely right, you hate to say this. And so when you hear platitudes from, let's say, our fellow Republicans that are saying, oh, this is not who we are, political violence, it doesn't solve anything. I don't know. It seems to be quite effective at shutting up conservatives right now. Bad enough that it doesn't solve anything, but for help what you say, this is not the Oregon way. It sure as hell is the Oregon way. I mean, it is, the leadership, the power structure in Oregon promotes this kind of thing.

But crying out loud, one of Kotech's top advisors, who now is in some position in one of the administration, one of the officers. Yeah, didn't they actually pass a law to kind of exonerate her so she could keep working? But she's arrested. Yeah. No, no, because she wouldn't be prosecuted. Yeah. She's arrested at an Antifa riot, okay? and she was interfering with the police, and they immediately passed a law to say that interfering with the police is no longer a crime.

And guess who voted for that? Well, Christine Drazen, of course, who also tweeted after Derek Chauvin was wrongfully convicted of killing a drug-addicted felon, George Floyd, she tweeted guilty. Justice? Justice is served. Justice is served. Yeah, I remember that. Of course, of course, that we're promoting all this kind of stuff. So is this an example where you've even in Oregon right now, Republicans in their response to what happened with Charlie Kirk for the most part, they're still cowed in some way, aren't they?

Well, everybody's cowed because even the, like, the leftists who are putting out these comments about, you know, how bad this is, are always coaching it with these dog whistles about, well, this is. well this is a bad thing no matter how much of a nazi murderous person divisive awful hateful guy this was well i'm sorry but that is not really that is not a heartfelt you know gee aren't we sorry that this happened yeah right you know i mean it's promoted i mean for crying out loud southern poverty law center has millions and millions and millions of dollars that they get from well placed left is to smear people who have conservative values and and and And on top of that, as disgusting as reprehensible as they are, every single cartel media outlet constantly quotes them as an authoritative source on why somebody's a monster.

And so, yeah, I mean, this climate has been created and it's been expanded, and it's going to keep happening because, yes, it does work. I mean, if you, I can't think of another person who is kind of like in Charlie Kirk's category right now. But if there's another person, or, you know, actually, maybe, who knows, maybe a Candace Owens or maybe any, any of the people who are public figures who are conservative would be foolish now to not consider the possibility that if they were in a public place, somebody would try to murder them. Yeah, you'd have to consider this. And also, once you have one, there will generally be other attempts. But there's something else, and this is where this is conspiracy theory Thursday, Kevin, like you know, talking with Kevin Stair at Oregon Firearms Federation.

I was talking about it this an hour ago, and I don't know. You may think I'm an absolute moron for even bringing this up, okay? But I'm going to anyway, and so if you call me a moron, I'll just take it. Well, at least I respect you and I'll consider myself a moron. but, or at least consider the possibility that I could be moronic. I don't trust the system, you know, as it is, to tell us the truth about what happened. And I can't help but think that what is the right supposed to re-how, how is the right supposed to react to this? Well, obviously, it's still a continuation of the poke, do something, poke, do something, poke, come on, do something, you know, poke, do something.

And given the nature of this shooting, which we still don't know all the details, we don't know who the person was involved. If they're going to, we may have a bolt action rifle. We don't know. A lot of people on the tube, former FBI people are all saying they think it's a professional hit. And if it is a professional hit, could we discount dark sides of our own government from doing something like this? because most important of all, Charlie Kirk was probably the most effective critic of the blob in control of America these days, wouldn't you say? He was certainly the most effective in terms of his appeal to younger people.

And that's the future. And that's the future. And that certainly given that many younger people have been completely captured by this twitching. leftist socialist education system that for some reason parents keep sending their children into, he was an extremely dangerous force against what really was some very dark movements. And so, and he was being effective, and he was doing it in a way that few other people could do as well. You know, if you've ever watched his conversations with college students, I mean, here's a guy I would sit down and have, you know, a hundred college students sitting

there getting up one after the other attacking him, and time after time, he just completely demolished their arguments. And he was a happy warrior about it, too, which I appreciate. I admired that aspect of, you know, be able to do that. I couldn't have. He wasn't sarcastic. He wasn't demeaning. He had the facts at his hand, at his fingertips, and that certainly made him dangerous.

Now, you know, as I said, I want to wait, find out, really was this a shot taken from as far away as they claimed that would require a fair amount of skill? It would be an unusual rifle for somebody who was just your local Antifa nut, that kind of thing. But there's, look, the first assassination attempt of Donald Trump, all right, we still don't know anything about the, kid who pulled the trigger. How is that possible? Well, that's what I was kind of getting at, though. You know, every time there is something like this, there's always an excuse or a way in which it gets obfuscated, hidden, the body is cremated, nothing to see here, move along. Gee, we don't know about those contacts from overseas on the phone. We can't do anything. We don't know. You know, Bill, you can't leave your driveway without license plate cameras tracking every move you make, okay?

Right. Every phone call, every email, everything is scrutinized, and they know absolutely nothing about this kid whose body immediately is cremated, all right? We have this, you know, the favorite shooting of the left, which was the Las Vegas shooting at the concert, okay? We have report after report. It's an excuse for every new form of gun control. it was the excuse for bump stock bands and everything else, none of which I believe, okay? Here's a guy, you've seen the photographs of the inside of the hotel room, the place was an armory. They know nothing about this guy, nothing about motive, nothing.

I mean, that whole story has gone completely down the memory hole. And this goes back to, you know, I mean, if people, I mean, Floyd Prasansky said I was conspiracy theory, not. Of course, he was immediately proven wrong. But, you know, Flight 800. the Oklahoma bombing, none of which adds up at all. And so will, I'm hoping that they make an arrest in this case soon, and I hope that it's determined that this was your basic left-wing Antipa-style nut. Yeah, you hope so, but you don't think I'm necessarily crazy for even being suspicious that it might not be.

there's there's no story we get that's true though i mean or complete and so no i think it makes perfect sense to say there there could be so much more to this than one derange person trying to kill someone and and it would be it would be really dangerous to accept the official narrative you know my my my standard operating philosophy is to believe nothing until a it's officially denied. Yeah. And on that note, I thank you very much for the analysis, Kevin, because I just wanted to kick it around with you because this one really affected me.

And it's not because he was a talk show host. I don't look at it through that lens. When President Trump had the assassination attempts, I mentioned this last hour, I was shocked, but I wasn't saddened in a way. And I don't mean this because I wanted President Trump. get hurt that wasn't it but I was thinking about it through the lens of you know he's been a big man

he's lived his life you know that if you're running for president or if you are president you're always a target and there is a lot there are a lot of people around you to try to make sure that that doesn't happen and had he been assassinated I would have been horrified and saddened

but there was something about Charlie Kirk just being a guy who is out there debating truth out there and standing in his truth being cut down like that, that cut harder for me for some reason. I don't know if it was that way for you, too. Absolutely.

I mean, Charlie was 31 years old with two little kids. I've got a son who's 31 years old with two little kids. You know, it's, it is beyond horrifying. And when you look at it, Charlie was a very public figure. but people who are very, not public figures, like that girl on the train in North Carolina. Yes. You know, it's just a young woman who sought refuge in our country and she's murdered and the murderer is being lionized and, you know, it's been turned into a cause for the left again to protect that person. And so how could it not, anybody who is not deeply affected by this is living in an office.

universe and I felt the same way and I you know the first reports you've been shot I was getting countless phone calls and had no idea what the outcome was and I was telling people let's wait let's wait we don't know and then when the report started coming in and unconfirmed and it was when it was confirmed but you know that he had died it was just yeah it's an absolute nightmare and it it makes me so fearful for where we're going and how could you how could you not feel that way someone wrote on my social media last night I posted this and said, well, Bill, do you think, you know, we're heading into a civil war?

I dare say when you think about it. We've been in a civil war. It's just been soft, maybe hardening now. Yeah, I've had that conversation within half an hour yesterday with four different people who brought up that idea. Do you think we're heading for a civil war? And I don't think we're heading for anything. I think we've been in it for a long time. It's just been happening in slow motion.

Kevin Starr at Oregon Firearms Federation, Kevin, we appreciate it. take and uh thanks for coming on this morning rough day rough day yesterday and continue we got a lot lot of work 735 by the way kevin's website is oregon firearms dot org and it is open phones for the rest of this hour we can talk about what kevin and i were talking about or anything different too because it is conspiracy theory thursday and one of the biggest conspiracy theory days ever really are you or do you know an adult 55 welcome to the bill mire show on 1063 kmED Give Bill a call at 541-770-5-633. That's 770 K-M-E-D.

737. James is in Selma. James, great to have you here. You said that there was some protesting going on about Charlie Kirk. Where was this going on that you heard about this? Yeah, it was in front of the Los Angeles Ice Building. They're there every night protesting, just like they do in Portland. and they were chanting,

we shot Charlie in the neck. We shot Charlie in the neck. And then they were talking about the revolution. And I watch, like, the Portland protesters, the police aren't allowed to even go anywhere near to help anybody in that area of the ice building. any citizens they can't get involved city council won't let them get involved

but this was in Los Angeles and they were chanting we shot Charlie in the neck and they're singing and happy about it that's disgusting pretty sick thanks with a call yikes Matt

how are you doing about all this welcome good I'm hoping you can give you a minute and I have a few points I wanted to make. First things I want to say is just get out of the way. This isn't the end. This is only escalation. So they didn't work for 100 years to get their Marxist vision just to walk away from it.

So people saying that, oh, this needs to be a turning point. You and Kevin were correct. This has been going on for a long time. The left is the party of murder. They always have been. Going back to the KKK and before that probably. The thing that I guess, you know, I was reflecting on why I was, you know, feeling differently about this than even Trump's attempt to assassination. You know, so you felt differently about it, too.

I mean, I was like right on the edge of tearing up most of the afternoon. And that's not like me normally, really isn't. Yeah. I was, I really, you know, overnight I was kind of searching my brain and trying to figure out why this feels different to me. all the obvious things that you and Kevin talked about, of course. But here's why it feels different. I'm going to give you an analogy. You know I was in the World Trade Center when it was bombed in 1993.

Yes. And they were unsuccessful. I was enraged. And here we are on 9-11. I was enraged with the terror attack on 9-11. I'm not going to get into conspiracy theory. I'm just going to take it at face value. Because I, after it was not long after that.

you started hearing conversations Bill Clinton had on the phone about not taking Osama bin Laden when he was offered to him because he said it was, you know, a hot potato and he didn't want to deal with it. What it raised me is that they didn't do anything. They had all that time and they were just, what, going to let it go to war? And then, you know, we waste 10 years and how many soldiers' lives and all that, you know, trillions of dollars. Yeah, but you see, Matt, that was the point. Well, yeah. I think the war was the point. I'll go with that.

You let it fester until it turns into something that you can turn a dime on. But here's the thing. I feel the same way about this. I'm not mad at Charlie. My sadness is for his wife and his children and his parents. That I have, I feel extreme sadness for the people who get left behind because, you know, Charlie's in heaven. I'm a believer.

But it's the people you leave behind who really suffer. offer. And it's going to be suffering for decades. And I'm sure the left is celebrating this. I don't give a rat's ass about them. So what I, what I, what I'm saying here is I'm equating this to Trump's attempted assassination. I don't know how the hell you put Charlie at the bottom of a pit with buildings and a hillside. And they don't fly a drone over the roof because drones are what, a thousand bucks less than that. My son has. So you just, you fly it around, you make sure there's nobody in a place where they could take advantage of that. It was a perfect assassination place. Point. It just was. It was. Well, and see, so to me, what is, I'm so angry at his security and at the security

that the university did not offer. It's unbelievable to me that you can have an attempted assassination on Trump. You know, you can say it's mismanagement. I don't. don't know, but you leave a rooftop open with a clear shot, and the same thing happens again, I cannot, and I know Charlie gets death threats. He was wearing a bulletproofest. By the way, other reports from reliable sources say the bullet hit his chest, and you can see it if you watch it in slow motion, it hits his chest, and then ricochets up, it hits his neck. So apparently, you know, he was wearing the best, and it did hit the best, but then it kind of sheared off and went up. So, but that's what I... That would seem to, uh, that would seem to, uh,

that would seem to, when I think about the way his head snapped in a particular direction, you know, with the impact, you may be right about that. That could be, that could be a credible way of looking at that. I hadn't considered that until now. Thank you. That's John Solomon. Yeah. Solomon's good guy.

He's good reporter. The last thing I'll say is when it comes to stock analysis, a lot of people will say, I'm not going to look at the people who are positive on a stock to get an idea of where I think, you know, should I be buying now? Are they getting more positive? They actually have their analysis to look at the people who are negative on a stock and see if they move. Because, you know, they're the ones who are like negative, negative. But if they start to say, hey, you know, maybe we're increasing our earnings estimate, I am saying this about every conservative person who's willing to put their neck and on the line and open their mouth that I wonder if we measure

the effectiveness of our conservative, you know, warriors by, you know, the amount of people who celebrate their death than we are by the people who celebrate their life. And Charlie Kirk, he was doing something that the Republicans would not bother doing, not that they couldn't have, they weren't bothering to do this, that he was reaching the youth. And the left had their voting block. One of them, they wanted the illegals to vote, and that's why they're freaking out that they're getting deported. The other thing they had, and they've had this for generations.

Was the youth vote, and they've been losing the, real young male's side of that haven't they that and they're you know what i'm not saying that they're going to get the girls i don't know but what's happening right now is charlie was moving that needle tremendously and i tell you what this needle is going to continue to move in that direction because when you have something as powerful as you know as what charlie kirk was doing and developing it's undeniable what he was you know his success they didn't kill him because of his the words he was saying because they didn't like what he said they were they know they killed him because he was effective that's why that's right with the look at martin luther king malcolm x

you know j f k you go you go through the whole list you just you know it's hard to find any conservative out there murdering you know leftist influencers i couldn't think of any let me ask you and this is just a speculative question though You're a Gen Z man of the right, let's say. I'm just saying, for instance, Right. The left comes out and murders your guy. Let's say that it is the way it looks and that it's not a deep state up.

But it could be. You know, I don't trust anything these days because the deep state, you know, what we think of as the deep state, the global elite or whatever it is, is still mostly a left-leaning blob, okay? All right. So it wouldn't surprise me if a pro was hired to do something like this or to make it look like, you know, the left because it still helps their purposes. But you're a right-wing guy, young man.

You have been adoring Charlie for all these years. Do you think there are any of them that decide to say, oh, okay. assassination is the solution game on do you think we could be seeing something like that well short answers yeah but the but the longer answer is do they embrace and you pointed this out eloquently this morning or do you embrace charlie kirk's method of sitting down being the happy guy yeah having this debate arguing your points do you do you live in that legacy, or do you go a different direction? If you were to ask me, because listen, there were people not just Gen Z-ish,

I guarantee you there are conservative men with young families and maybe even single men who might be in their 40s or 50s who are reaching the end of their tether. To me, it would be more likely to see something like that than to see a younger person. that's interesting. And you know, you know, older guy, I got less to lose, forget about it, right? Or maybe he's got cancer, something like that. The bottom line for me is, Bill, and maybe, you know, you're a better historian than I am, I could not come up with a case where someone, I mean, even Jesus Christ was murdered because he had influence but wasn't a government official. And he was effective.

Yeah, this is, this is, this is, this is. This is the problem. The left has no argument for the things that they do. That guy was on the five. Jessica Tarloff. The woman is not an idiot. She's smart. But she comes on and quotes polls, which you and I both know are garbage. She comes on and brings up one or two examples of where ICE arrested a person like the hairdresser who was this or this or this. I don't care about any of that. To me, it's my philosophy of liberty. Capital L. That's the most important thing. Do you have liberty or do you not have liberty? Kevin Starr is brilliant on the topic as are you and several other, a bunch of your callers, same thing. What it comes down to for me is always the same thing. If you support liberty, I can support you. If you support bigger government and taking my right, you will not get my support. I try to keep it as simple is possible. But here's the thing. The left cannot, I've watched so many videos. There's this guy named Vladimir Jaffe. He's on YouTube. I haven't watched him in about a year, but he's from the Soviet

Union, not Russia, Soviet Union. He's about my age, and he goes to these rallies, these hate rallies on the left, and he tries to talk to people. Every time he tries to talk someone, somebody comes up and says, oh, don't talk to him, don't talk to him, because he makes effective arguments. He speaks from a place of knowledge. Yeah, having known the former Soviet Union. Yeah, he says, look, I didn't leave Russia. I left the Soviet Union, but they can't, they have no argument. The argument is brainwash, and they know that the brainwash is delicate.

And then it's easy when somebody's been brainwashed in most cases to give them an argument, say, gosh, you know, maybe I'd rather not spend my Saturdays out here. Yeah, yeah, something that breaks the wash, breaks the wash, you know, breaks the hold. Matt, it was a little longer of a call that I thought we were going to get with you there, but, you know, I appreciate it. I want to make sure and give us to other people some room in here in just a moment, too, all right?

So, thank you for that. 7705-633. Great to have you on this morning, and if you're on hold, let's get your call on here on Conspiracy Theory Thursday, right back on the Bill Meyer's show. Compassion. It's a lot like empathy, but... ...in estimate. Visit milletconstruction.com. Hi, I'm Cassie from Clauser Drilling, and I'm on KMED.

By the way, news normally sponsored by Millette Construction. By the way, great people over there. And I just wanted to make sure and note that. But we have so many calls and so much to talk about this morning, I decided to forego the news because we're making our own news, I guess, at this point. 7705-633-770 KMED. Marty, the trucker, is here on Conspiracy Theory Thursday. Marty, go ahead.

It's on your mind. Good morning, Bill. In a former lifetime before I started driving a truck 30 years ago, back in the 1980s, I used to work at a little black. Budget company in Silicon Valley on optical systems for spy satellite. They're up there all the time. It's all part of the National Reconnaissance Office, I believe. And I think that possibly they had their eyes trained on this event

and that they do have good footage of what happened, in live in real time, by the way. Really? These spy satellites, oh, yeah. They've been able to do things since the 1970s. just focused down onto a license plate on a car. They can pick up conversations within that car live, okay? This is how good this technology has been for decades. I have no doubt that they're, I should say, I shouldn't have no doubt, but I'm of the opinion that they got a hold of, you know, but the authorities, whatever, got a hold of the National Conference offices and

what have you, and they've got the eye in the sky viewpoint of this. And I agree. agree with the previous color, where are the drones, you know, hovering from the security service for Charlie Kirk or anybody to check out these tops of buildings and stuff. Yeah, yeah, you have telephone videos that people are showing, yep, there's another guy on the roof. Oh, gosh, who couldn't have thought of that one? Hey, Marty? Exactly.

Yeah, exactly. But my ultimate point is there's an ultimate eye in the sky up there, and they're 24-7. I mean, there's got to be some kind of live footage of this that they've been looking at. I appreciate the take on that from your experience in the past life, okay? Thank you, Marty. Let me go to Lynn. Lynn, you're here too. Go ahead.

It's on your mind. Yeah, hi, Bill. So I'm an insomniac anyway, but I didn't sleep last night. I hope I won't cry. I'm really not much of a crier. I almost cried yesterday. I was right there on the edge. And like I said, it affected me differently than the Trump assassination attempts.

It really did. Yeah, for all the reasons that you said and more, because I feel like the cold civil war has gone hot. I think this is a turning point. And this is the sort of thing that leads to dictatorship because a nation gets out of control and the people cry out for control. They cry out for order, and then you get what you really didn't want. And that's why I'm very careful about, or at least my suspicions. And that's why I wondered if dark side of government, I'm not talking about Donald Trump or I'm not saying that.

But dark side of government still exists. We know that. And when you have someone who is a beloved, be effective, most importantly of all. And essentially someone who is preaching against your blob control of not just the United States and perhaps world dominance maybe. Why not? why not i mean it's uh it's a win we're all having those dark thoughts because it looks like a professional professional hit um what i want to say though is this is the time where what we the people who are celebrating charlie's death are demonically inspired and what we have here

is a spiritual problem and really the only solution that could save us is spiritual the nation turning to god and turning to christ to be quite honest It was Jesus who said, love your enemies, do good to those who persecute you, who despitefully use you, pray for them. Right before, in fact, when Judas was coming to betray Christ, he said to him, hello, friend. So I think it's incredibly important for those of us who know the Lord to remember that and to cultivate forgiveness rather than revenge. very difficult, but it's the only solution. And I just want to say, plead with people who don't have Christ in their life. There's no hope apart from him.

But is going supine? Has life. And you do not have the sun, does not have life. Lynn, but to go supine in response. No, it's not being supine. Okay. It's the attitude that you come from. You continue to fight.

All right. Okay. But it's from a heart like Charlie. Charlie was not vengeful, Charlie was not angry, he was passionate. And a lot of people can't tell the difference, but there is a difference. And so this is what I'm saying. If we allow what they've done to make us vengeful and revengeful, just like them, it's over. We're over as a nation.

And so there's a spiritual truth. Jesus is the strongest man who ever lived. There's nobody stronger than he is, and he was never supine. He had counterintuitive instructions to his disciples, which is to forgive your enemies. That doesn't mean you let them win, but you don't hate them. You don't let yourself hate them, and you leave vengeance to God. And continue to do what is right, and you continue to speak the truth, and you pray, and you put your hope in the Lord, because he's the only one with power to heal this land

and to prevent what looks like a really difficult and possibly the end of the United States. I appreciate your thoughtfulness as always, Lynn. Okay. Thank you very much. That's what I wanted to share, and I appreciate you letting me on. You bet. Happy to do so. Vicki's here, too. Hi, Vicki. How are you? Good morning. I'm good. I mean, I'm saddened by what happened. We all are. I believe that during the COVID years, the government had the perfect opportunity to reach the younger generation, the ones that are acting out and they're fighting for something that they believe in, but it's not the right thing to believe in.

I believe that it was the perfect situation to get to the young kids, the millennials, the gends, the everybody during the COVID, because everyone was stuck at home. Nobody could go to work. I don't like the Internet for a lot of reasons, but the entertainment turned into brainwashing. believe that the people that were in charge when COVID was going on was actually a government mob. I don't think it was trying to – they had their own agenda, and I think that they were successful in a lot of ways. They targeted people on the Internet that had either, you know, some mental issues or maybe

they felt bullied or maybe – there was something that drew those people. in to commit, you know, school shootings, riots, you know, I just, I believe that COVID was the perfect background for them to brainwash a lot of people. To break the minds, to break the minds of people. Yes. And I think what Charlie was doing was deprogramming the younger generation, trying to draw them back to reality because what has been going on is not reality. It's all been a farce to Yeah, a simulacrim of reality. In fact, I would dare say, Vicki, an inverted reality is, you know,

what we're dealing with in the moment. I appreciate your call. Thanks for making that, too. Arianna, we're going to move along and get a couple more in before the news. Hi, good morning. Who's this? This is mine, Dave. Dave, welcome. Yeah, yesterday when I heard the new, by the way, I've listened to Charlie Cook on YouTube, and he was a brilliant man, a brilliant young man. And so yesterday it made me sad. I rarely cry, but I almost did. But in my opinion, because this was a hit, a professional hit, it has to do with a, the global situation, trying to stir a civil war in the United States.

And I think it's coming from the British Empire. Oh, that's a different way of looking at that, too. I will stick it in my pipe and smoke it, okay? All right. All right. And pray for his family. We'll do. Thank you very much, Dave.

And this individual, whoever you are, you're wrapping up the hour. Who's this? Good morning. Holly Morton. Holly, welcome. Thank you. This needs to be a serious. wake-up call for all of us.

You know, for some time, we've observed, as the leftists have been working very hard to steal the hearts and minds of our kids, you know, I don't think it's a coincidence, you know, all the things that have happened in schools, this focus on sexuality rather than education, all these sorts of things, they're all related in stealing the hearts and minds of our kids. And Charlie was reversing that. He was reaching our kids and letting them know that what was happening was not appropriate. That there were reasons to love our country and love self, to respect the Lord and so forth.

He was reaching our kids. So I guess they just felt like they had to take him out because he was interfering with the overall plan to basically take over our country and make everyone dependent on government. That's what they'd like to do. steal the minds of our children, steal our future, their futures, and we need to wake up this business of the library and then ask the books. It's all related, and we need to wake up and take a stand as citizens not to allow this. Thank you, Holly. Well said. Appreciate the call. This is KMED and KMED HD-1 Eagle Point Medford. KBXG grants passed. By the way, at Josephine County courthouse today at 12 noon. They're having a 9-11 memorial for commemoration and also

talking about Charlie Kirk. That is 12 noon today. Okay, I just want to make sure you knew about that. Mark writes me this morning, Bill, confirmed via Fox and other national outlets, rifle was found in the woods, non-confirmed from blogs with good supporting information, surplus Mouser bolt action rifle, caliber 30-odd-6, bullets found with transsexual, type of anger rhetoric on it. And he continues a non-conformed rifle portion of this supporting the ATF email. American partisan

is reporting that. Like I said, everything in the first 48, 72 hours or so is very iffy, but Mark, if true, that's an interesting wrinkle in this Charlie Kirk assassination. We'll stay on the story and more. We might take a few more calls. Maybe not to, well, I want to make sure we get on Oliva, or Oliva, is it Alma? Anyway, I'll get her on.

Ms. Herrera, and she is a PCP, local Republican Party, and she's looking into what's going on with Indivisible. We deal with Indivisible a lot here in Southern Oregon. It's good to know who these people are, what they're all about. We'll have that coming up. Nine days only. It all ends.