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The Bill Myers Show podcast is sponsored by Klausur Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausor drilling.com. It is Conspiracy Theory Thursday. One of the talk about the conspiracies hiding out there in plain sight. And that would be indivisible here in Southern Oregon, Jackson and Josephine County. And joining me is Concerned Citizen Oliva Herrera. Hello, Oliva. Welcome to the show.

How you doing, Bill? How you doing, Bill? Well, it's been a rough day, been a rough couple of days here. A lot of, a lot of tumult, a lot of drama in here. But, you know, we have to keep our eye on the ball of what is going on here in Southern Oregon. I want to talk with you a little bit about your background because you gave me your bio and you're saying, I don't think any of this is relevant. That's what you said in an email you sent me.

But I think it is incredibly relevant to what you're doing these days. But anyway, you were a self-educated subsurface support engineer, and you pioneered the 8-1-1 call before you dig system? You're one of the people. Well, I was one of the pioneers. I was, you know, one of the field people putting that, you know, together. I mean, there's always been a call before you dig system way back into the late 60s in the West Coast and in the 70s throughout the country. but the 8-1-1 call before you dig system didn't actually go through until the year 2000. So there was a lot of us already working in the industry and working in the field at that, you know,

we're assisted into having that program created. Yeah, and the reason I ask you is that you were responsible then, or one of the people here, working on the safety of underground public utilities in D.C. And a bunch of counties over in Maryland. So, in other words, you're involved in digging, right? And that's why when you said... Yeah, digging, public safety. Yeah, yeah.

And when you said that I don't think any of this is relevant, no, I think it is perfectly relevant with you digging into Indivisible. And there are a couple of flavors of Indivisible, and you don't hear much about it unless you travel in certain circles. Or if you show up at congressional meetings, let's say, like, like Greg Walden a number of years ago. I remember Indivisible Hissy Fitters showed up there, and we're screaming and shouting down and Cliff Bent's town halls, things like that. And you're doing a deep dive on this,

and I think you're working on bringing out a documentary at some point. It's not available quite yet, but I just want to kind of get the overall 50,000-foot view level here in Jackson and Josephine County of what Indivisible is all about. And there's a couple of flavors of it, from what I understand, right? Yeah, well, we have to start with indivisible, you know, who they are. They're the anti-Trump movement whose sole purpose is to counter the efforts of President Trump,

and they're trying to take control of our county. This is a well-funded, well-organized, George Soros-back organization that operates locally as rogue indivisible and Oregon D2 Indivisible, which is basically District 2, Cliff Bense's district. Those are the two main ones. They actually have a bunch of other subnames and, you know, that they operate under and a lot of different Facebook page names and things like that. But Rogue Indivisible is the one that we need to be concerned about in our area here in Jackson, I mean, Josephine and Jackson County, that's their geographical jurisdiction.

Okay. And so ORD2, you said, that's the one. Oh, yeah, it's Oregon District 2 Indivisible. So they write it out, it's on the Internet. It's Oregon D2 Indivisible. Okay. So that one's based out of Ashland, and then the Rogue Indivisible is based out of a grant pass, but they cover both Josephine and Jackson County. I had mentioned this earlier, but for those that weren't listening earlier, I'll mention again.

I had asked you yesterday, I don't seem to hear much about Indivisible in Jackson County, but there seems to be a lot of a hotbed of it in Joseph. County. And I'm kind of wondering if you can answer why, if that's just my impression of it, or I'm just not looking. Well, there's four administrators, and they're pretty popular names locally here in Grants Pass. There's Matt Perlock, Richard Flora, Vicki Palmerton, and Kirk Collins. They're the administrators, and they're all happen to be from Grants Pass. That's why you see more of it, you know, here. But is that also why there seems to be more. shall we say, drama, heat, and hard feelings, let's say, in Josephine County politics.

I'm just curious if there's any relationship to the two. Well, I think it's just, you know, they target the reddest areas, the most conservative, you know, areas. And, you know, after this last election, you know, there was a lot of, you know, probably, I don't know, animosity or whatever, you know, you want to call it. But, you know, with the results of the election, having put, you know, conservatives and the board of county commissioners and the city council, you know, there's been a lot of disgruntled people because of that. And these four people that I mentioned are tied to a lot of, you know, to all the, you know, disgruntled people. And we're talking about, you know, liberal progressives and that reside in our town and, you know, there. So are you talking about, when you talk about Indivisible, are you speaking of a conventional, what we would think of is, I don't know if there is such a thing any longer as a mainstream Democrat, or is this someone who is more, shall we say, off the harder left spectrum? Oh, it's definitely off the harder left spectrum.

I mean, I don't know if you've been to any of their rallies. Let me just highlight that that all these large protests that you see, not just across the country, but locally, have all been organized by Rogue Indivisible. So, you know, back in January, we saw the People's March. I think it was... Is the No King's Rally connected with that, too? Oh, yeah. Yeah, it was the People's March.

There was a No Kings Raleigh that hands-off protest. And the recent one that we had in Labor Day, the Billionaire, Workers Over Billionaires Rally. All of them were organized by Rogue Indivisible and their local administrators from Grants Pass. Don't you find that ironic that, you know, workers over a billionaire is funded by a billionaire, but it's just their billionaire, huh? Oh, yeah. What I also find ironic is, you know, some of their keynote speakers, you know, we had that election in November, and then, you know, just right off back in January at the first, you know, rally of 2025, a keynote speaker being Sarah Bristol, a former Grants Pass mayor.

And the very next keynote speaker in April's rally was the former city. councilwoman Vanessa OJ and who, you know, are obviously a part of this organization. I've been following them on social media and stuff, and they're just already been confirmed to be involved with this organization. Okay. Well, you know, it is legal for you to be involved in hard left politics. So why do you think it's important that we pay attention more to what the Indivisible is up and perhaps, you know, track actions?

maybe follow the money and connect dots. Why is this so important, do you think? Well, I mean, when you start to, I mean, in short, this organization, they're all about, you know, wanting to stop the, you know, all the topics that are important to us right now. Like they want to stop the deportation of, quote, unquote, dangerous, I mean, they want to stop the deportation of dangerous, illegal immigrants. They want men

to play to women's sports. They want to keep the homeless people in our city, you know, ruining our parks. They want bigger government, bigger taxes, and they think Tina Kotech and Gavin Newsom are doing a great job. So every bone of contention, culturally and politically here in Southern Oregon,

you can then look into the indivisible group then as having some influence or connection with it. Oh, yeah. If you look at any type of bad politics, in any area, probably in all of southern Oregon right now, you're going to probably find Indivisible. The local branch will have a different name to it, but it's all indivisible.

And these things have already all been confirmed. I mean, even the president or the chair, I should say, of Rogue Indivisible has a video out there, you know, on social media that he just admits the whole thing. And, you know, and some of these players, you know, like Retroflora running around, you know, wearing a, I am the deep state shirt. oh really no hold on that's interesting oliva so we have individual wearing i am the deep state

really yep yeah um in fact uh we have i think you know the chief petitioner um i call it the pawn that they used for this recall anyways uh jim goodwin also walking around town with i'm a deep state uh t-shirt on yeah you know they've they've kind of been able to organize so well because either they've relied on the ignorance of the people And we need to wake up, you know, know the truth and spread it to all, you know, all of Oregonians and let them know what we're really up against and, you know, and put that education blast out there because when you really, and when the documentary comes out or this, you know, a couple of, you know, educational pieces that we're working on comes out, you know, it'll help the public kind of just get, you know, educated quickly. stop this kind of nonsense, you know, from happening in our town. You had mentioned that there are people involved in the recall, at least the push, there is no recall of the Grants Pass Commission yet, but they're out there working the

petition side. So you're saying that there's a big indivisible component of this? Oh, indivisible is behind, you know, recalls of their forte, for one. But they're completely 100% behind the current recall efforts in in Josephine County. This recall has nothing to do with our commissioners, Black, and Barnett, at all. This has everything to do with what individuals about, what their goals are, and what their motives are, and how they do it. They're well-trained, well-organized, and they have weekly organizational meetings to, you know, keep it going and running. But if you – I did send off, and everybody could go online to see the 23-people.

document that the founders of Indivisible put out. I mean, it's, you know, it goes into clear detail of, you know, their tactics and what they're doing. Is this the one that's Indivisible, a practical guide for resisting the Trump agenda? Is that the one you're speaking of? Yes, sir. Yes, and I think there's another revision out, but that one there is what is what all the individual branches have, you know, that's their foundation guide.

And so all their members have read it probably over and over again, and they have, you know, weekly business, you know, meetings that they post some of them to YouTube. And if you were to sit in and listen to some of those, I mean, you would get pretty disturbed like I did. So what it did for me is just to motivate me to educate the public to let Southern Oregon know that we are under a major attack by, you know, progressive liberals, and we have to do something about it now. what would you see then as the doing something about it are you a strategist type thing are you saying hey i'm i'm paul revere and i'm saying you know indivisible is here indivisible is here and they're more embedded in the system than you think i guess is essentially what you're doing i just believe in education uh to start um and educating the public um the truth needs to be told out loud and we can't rely on local you know media outlets because they're all part of this i don't want to get

into that. But, you know, basically, I believe that as long as we can educate the public with the truth, that things will start turning. Do you, do you, oh, now, now, Aliva, that's interesting statements that you made there. Do you believe that there are local media outlets that, you know, we know, we don't have to name names right now, but do you believe that there's actually a lot of, in O.R. 10, or O.R. District 2 and the other rogue, indivisible, embedded? There are several. There are so many all the way from, you know, Ashland up, you know, up to here. There's so many I can't even, I wouldn't even begin to be able to name them all. That's how many.

But locally, everybody here in Grant's path knows that, you know, our former mayor's husband is an editor for the Daily Courier, and we won't get into the Tribune. I mean, that's just a method. that we all, you know, have known about. But, you know, bottom line, yes. I mean, controlling the media and what comes out in the newspapers and the news is also part of their tactics that you'll read about in that document. But they, you know, controlling the media and the narratives, they also do, you know, editing of videos and photographs to illustrate their narrative of a situation. just even when they were filing that petition, I was there in the county clerk's office, and, you know, Matt Sperlock uploaded a video that he, you know, edited along with a commissioner meeting video and combined it, and it makes it look like we were all, you know, crazy when it was part of his group, you know, that one of the ladies there hit some elderly guy standing next to me with her, with her recall sign in the chest. And then I, you know, yell at her like, you know, stop that, like, you know, like, you know, like, some old guys got hit in the chest right. in front of me. I'm not going to not say anything. And so the narrative that he put out there made

it look like they were very calm and very collected and that the people that were against the recall that were there because there was about as equal amount of people there that they, you know, that we were, you know, we were crazy and that they were calm and collected. And that wasn't the case at all. All right. Aliva Herrera is a precinct committee person, a PCP, the Josephine County Republican Party. You're working on a doctor. documentary, when do you think you might have that out? I'll be curious to watch because I do not claim to be an expert on Indivisible and the tactics other than the fact that I'll see the news releases every now. Then I go, oh, okay, yeah, I kind of know where they're coming from.

Yeah, so this weekend will be, we'll put some preliminary thing out no matter what and go from there. I do believe we might start doing a series of, you know, videos and outreach to the community. But we need to do a countywide educational thing, and that's what we're working on right now. All right. Since that, you know, Indivisible is very devoted to, in other words, it's the counter-revolutionary response to the Trump Revolution, I guess you could call it that. Is there a counter-counter revolution in Southern Oregon that you're aware of that is. is looking to resist the revolution, the counter-revolution, so to speak. What do you think?

Well, you know, we have twice as many conservatives as we do progressives in our county. Yeah, but I think most of the conservative world for the most part, I don't think is necessarily, you know, out there pushing a counter-counter-revolutionary point of view. Or am I wrong about that? Okay, I just want to watch a little TV and, you know, raise my family and out. and I'm happy to vote the right way, you know, that kind of thing, but that's sort of where it ends usually. Yeah, and that's why I think that educating the county is the first step into this counter-revolution that's actually just organically building as we speak.

There's been the few people that I have shared this information with have, you know, my phone has been off going off the hook and the emails have been coming in, like I'm some popular person now because it has really waking up a lot of the people that I have shared it with so far. So we're hoping that same effect will happen, you know, countywide. Oliva Herrera, PCP over Josephine County Republican Party, working on a documentary here. Just a concerned citizen is what she's been doing. She's been working this on the, what, the last three, four years from the sounds of it, right? Okay.

Yes, yes, sir. All right. Well, I'll tell you what. Keep us in the room. I'd like to see that, and I'd like to certainly get that out and find out more about what I don't know. And I'll be the first to say, I don't really understand it to the extent that you do. And that's why I at least wanted to get an introduction. Okay?

All right. All right. Aliva. Nice talk. It is 831 at KMED and 993 KBXG on the Bill Myers show. I'm Rob. And I'm Debra. And this is our Tibertec story.

You're hearing the Bill Myers Show on 1063 KMED. 834. I'm going to have an extended email of the day because a lot of folks been writing me about numerous things. we've been talking about the last couple of days. We'll have that coming up here in the next few minutes and try to squeeze in a few more conspiracy theory Thursday calls. I'm going to catch up what's going on with the Brew Fest in just a moment here too. And I'll just, since the phones are ringing, I'll just grab a couple of randoms

and put them on. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome. Bill, it's your friend, Brad. Hey, brother Brad. How you doing this morning? Good, Charlie Kirk and Indivisible.

What are you thinking? So the interesting thing about both of those indivisible is flying completely under the radar and being affected and being effective. Charlie Kirk was taken out because even though mainstream media was not giving a platform, his effort shifted Gen Z mails 44 points on the political scale. Which is exactly what Democrat pollsters have been kind of concerned about, frankly. Exactly. The loss of the bros, and that's why all of a sudden you have, you know, people talking about, hey, you know, we're going to start drinking beer and appealing to the young men, et cetera, right? You know, kind of ham-handed about it.

It's kind of funny to watch that part. And he did it by going right into the belly of the beast. I mean, right into these college places and just setting up his little tent and saying, okay, hey, I'm taking on all comers, come and talk to me. And I also like the part about just prove me wrong, right? Prove me wrong. We'll sit around and talk about it. And he wasn't mean about it. It's not like you could say. It wasn't, you know, that I always thought it was surprised he was more polite than I think I could have been in,

could have been in the similar situation. But he was able to keep his cool. I admired that aspect of him. I really did. Always kind and respectful. Yep. I appreciate your call here. Always be kind and respectful. And by the way, I want to thank you for, Brad sent me. He emailed me a news story. that we didn't really have time, or I didn't want to talk a whole lot about it today. Maybe we'll have to hit that tomorrow, Brad. But that one about the push for solar cells over the canals in California.

I thought that was really interesting in which they're covering up the irrigation canals with solar cells and plugging them into the grid. And I guess it's not the worst idea if you're talking about trying to keep the evaporation down of the canals, right? I thought it was still interesting tech that they were using there. As long as you don't care what your cost per kilowatt is, it doesn't matter. Oh, I know, I know. But

yeah, they're trying to put a solar cell on anything that, well, I guess really it's not on everything that moves. It's anything that doesn't move in California. They want a solar panel on top of it, right? Yeah. Yeah. Appreciate the call, as always.

Maybe we'll talk more about that story tomorrow. It is 837 at KMED. Well, I ended up getting, let's see, I had a couple of inexpensive solar cells that I bought from a warehouse store, solar panels that I got. And recently I ended up picking up a jackery because there was a big sale on them. It's like a jackery 1,000. You know, basically it's a lithium iron oxide battery, I think is what it is. It's a different type of chemistry lithium battery that is a little bit safer. still, you know, and it has

inverter connected to it, and you can plug a bunch of solar cells into it, and it's kind of ironic because we're having to not only pay higher because we're not only having to pay higher, let me, hang on just a little bit, I need to cough something out if you're right back.

Okay, that's better. Not only do we have to pay much higher Pacific power rates, but then we also have to then invest in all sorts of backup power for when they decide to turn it off for our own good, for our own safety. And so I ended up getting a new generator recently and also a, no, that's a real generator. And then there's the solar generator when you're looking for something that you need to be a little

quieter about it if you get my drift. So anyway, yep, you have to invest in your electrical power twice these days. That's progress in Oregon. Yay. It is 839. We'll catch up on the rest of the news here in just a moment. A little bit of brew fest. Let's take a little break from politics for a little bit and talk about having some fun this weekend.

And then some emails today, maybe another call or two from you. Service is the difference with sweetwater sanitation. Your experts for sanitation services and poor. And you're waking up with the Bill Myers Show. Hey, just a quick little pallet cleanser of what is going on at the Expo this weekend. And I guess I guess there could be some pallet cleansers available as you try various different brews at the Road Broadband Brewfest. and joining me here in studio. And I'm just looking forward to talk about it

is the manager of the Jackson County Expo, and that's Rob Holbeck. Hello, Rob, how you doing? Hey, good. How are you, Bill? Doing fine. Great to see you. And, you know, there have been times, especially politically this week.

It's been a rough one, you know, for me in the talk radio world, so I'm kind of thinking, you know, maybe drinking heavily might not be such a bad idea. But actually, this is not about drinking heavily, but it's about exploring the world of craft brews and enjoying

a great concert. Tell us about the Rogue broadband. Yeah, I can't even say it. Rogue broadband brewfest. Yeah, it doesn't roll off the time, does it? But, you know, Jim is a great sponsor for us, and he has been the sponsor for the Brew Fest for several years now. And it's a great event. It's a fun event. It's not about drinking too much. It's about sampling lots of different bears. So you get little cups of each of them you go from brewery to brewery. Get a 16-ounce cup, and then each ticket you have. you get a certain amount of beer or cider or wine. And you can taste, we have 70 different taps and different kinds of beers. Hard ciders, too?

I like that. Now, is it just hard or do you also have ciders that are not hard? I don't know. Ciders that aren't hard. Okay, good. Yeah. We have, most of them all on draft coming to keg. And it's a great event, a lot of fun.

Have some fun music planned. Yeah, tell us about this. This is a Prince Tribute. Prince Tribute band. Yeah, Little Red Corvette. Well, sorry. Red Corvette has been around for about 15 years. I'm doing Prince Tribute, and we had an opportunity to bring him.

So we thought, hey, this will be fun to add to the Brew Fest, just to have some fun. You know, to be a Prince Tribute band, you have to be pretty darn good musicians because he had some pretty wicked guitar work, synthesizer work. I mean, there's a lot going on there in a lot of that vintage Prince music. I've seen them, and they are very good. They're awesome. All right. Now, is Red Corvette playing throughout the day, or are there specified times? How does this work?

Yeah, Red Corvette's playing Saturday night at 8 p.m. Okay, all right. Saturday night at 8. So what time does the Brewfest start Saturday, though? Well, the Brewfest actually starts on Friday. Friday, okay, tomorrow. 4 to 10. Okay.

So we'll be open 4 to 10 and just have music playing. All right. How much does it cost to go? It's $25 for 5 tastes or $30 for 10 takes. bring a friend and have some fun. Is it the same cost for tomorrow, too? Yeah. Okay.

For Saturday, I should say. Saturday, same cost. All right. And does that include the performance of Red Corvette? Includes the concert, yeah. How many breweries taking part in this? We have, well, there's 70 taps. I didn't count how many breweries.

I think there's 30, 35, somewhere in there. Out of 70, you could hopefully find something. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Find something that you like, right? I mean, there's some fun ones. There's some, you know, blackberry-flavored beer, which I thought, well, that's odd. But, you know, it's not bad.

Okay, here it is. You're the manager of the Expo. Are you out there sampling, pre-sampling already? No, not quite. Not on the job. Okay. Yeah, I know. County Commissioner is going, okay, what?

Anyway, so you're actually the new manager of the Expo, right? How long have you been there? I've been at the Expo for about nine years. I've been the manager for two. So, okay, for two years then. Great. So you've seen a lot of change coming in there. A lot of good things coming in there.

things are going really well glad to hear that glad to hear that because there have been some problems off and on in the past and underpass management so you got this all smoothed out then I'd say yeah I don't know if it's ever smooth but yeah it's going really well I enjoy my job I enjoy being there I have a great group of people that I work with and you're drinking from a fire hose a lot all right got that you know I just wanted to touch on something just briefly that doesn't have anything to do with the Brewfest, of course.

And Brew Fest could be fun, though. We know it's a great product project. Go out there tomorrow and also Saturday. Oh, yeah. I forgot. Saturday, halftime of the Beaver football game. Yeah. We are doing the Sherms Markets hot dog eating contest.

Oh, like a Nathan's thing? Yeah, it is. A Nathan's sponsored hot dog eating contest. How many entries do you have? Right now, I think we have 22. 22 people are going to stuff their face, huh? Yep. Yep.

That'll be fun. And, all right, I wonder if anybody actually hurls after doing that? No comment. Okay. Well, but it's kind of like when you go to a NASCAR event, you go to an NASCAR to look at the car crash. You know, everyone's hoping to see the, you know, if you're not seeing a flying fender going someplace, it just wasn't a great. It wasn't a race. Exactly.

But anyway, that should be a lot of fun. Okay, we'll get that information up here. And, oh, by the way, can you buy extra tickets once you go past your five? Yes. Yes, you can buy extra tickets for $6. All right. Many people continue to write me, Rob, about the community center that was being built with grant stream funding and what is the purpose of this. And since you're the manager of the Expo, I would just kind of like, you know, could you just explain what happened with this and what that's all about because they're saying, oh, this is going to be a COVID place or something. Yeah, I think that I think that Danny Jordan's done a great job of explaining that on the county website.

it is a pandemic response, multipurpose pandemic response. You can use it for many things. They'll be used for the multi-purpose is key there. But it'll be a great asset to the Expo. And this was something which it was grant stream funding from the feds. From the feds, yeah. And so you had to do this.

But it's also partnering with City of Central Point. The City of Central Point is moving their Parks Department into part of the building. They've leased part of the building from us. And so they'll run their Parks Department and a community center out of of part of the building. Okay. So that would be a great addition to Central Point. The reason I got to ask you about it, though, is because, you know, on a conspiracy

theory sort of thing, a Thursday kind of thing that people will call it. But, you know, it's like, there's the barbed wire and there's the FEMA camp that is going up. And it's like, no, there are many places where that might be, but it's not the Expo. Yeah. Okay. I can guarantee it it won't be a FEMA camp. It won't be a homeless shelter, some of the other crazy things I've heard.

I know. It will not be that. Yeah. Social media has been alive and the, and it's all been, the imaginations have been stirred, I think, is the way to do it. So, anyway, it'll be a great asset to the Expo when it's all built. Good. Looking forward for that. Okay, rogue broadband, and that is hard to say.

It is. But the Brewfest starts tomorrow, 4 o'clock running on Saturday, too. And is it at theexpo.com? Yeah, at theexpo.com. All right. Great meeting, Rob. Hey, nice to meet you. Good talking with you.

It is 10 before 9 on KMED. This is the Bill Meyer show. HK4 VIN 191-66-M-SRP 24-5-6-8 MSRP, 430-8 MSRP 430-50-5-60-6-9-6-6-9-6-9-6-9-6-9-6-9-6-0-1-6-0-6-20. It's the full trade. On KMED. Hey, if you want to squeeze it a quick call here on Conspiracy Theory Thursday, you want to talk about the Charlie Kirk assassination or anything else. We had a few minutes left, 7705-633, and want to roll through some emails of the day to because I always like to do that, emails of the day.

And those are sponsored by Dr. Steve Nelson, Central Point Family Dentistry. Central Point Family Dentistry.com. Now, it's a great waiting room that they have there, but in my experience, you do not have to wait very long there. They get you in and out and value your time. Great people. It's central point family dentistry.com. Butchamogh Hill writes me, Bill, I was listening to you and Herman talking the other day. He's great.

You know, speaking about the power poles, specific power is going to replace all the power poles and Jackson and Josephine County. Due to our illustrious DEQ, they cannot be repurposed, so they'll end up in the landfills. Oh, that's great. That is sustainable, Bush. Thank you for letting me know.

Oh, right. Something else to do in that. All right. By the way, we had a Jeff from Selma who says, Bill Rat Rod Ruckus is going to be going on again. It's going to be the 13th this Saturday over at Potsville. I'll put that up there, Jeff. for writing me about that.

Let me see what else I've got going on in here. Dave says, Bill, I think where the judge let out that light rail killer of Arena Zarutka routinely, either her husband or the judge herself owns the rehab facility and repeatedly releases to receive government program money to themselves. Have you heard this? Heard about it. Have not been able to check it out, Dave. You're going to make me go to work on that a little bit more, okay?

Let's see. what else do we got here I wanted to make sure oh here we go Richard writes me about the cheek grass heard some talk about the cheek grass and the fox tail grasses oh that's going to be too long I'll have to get that one another time Richard

but that was a good one Dale was who was going for Dale writes me Bill on the lack of public response to the killer on the subway and Dale says I have been asking myself why the people who are right next to the stabbing of the girl

on the light rail didn't do anything of value for quite some time to try to help or detain the man who did the stamping, uh, stabbing rather. It finally came to me that it might be our court system and the rulings that have come down in recent years that cause people to not get involved in any way. The prosecutors and cost of defense for any charge or fines is so prohibitive for the average person, they don't want to take the risk. There have been too many idiotic rulings of late that the courts can't be trusted and that means we are in serious trouble in this country. You're right about that, Dale, because what is justice? Justice is the equal enforcement of the law, and that has been seriously missing as of late.

Jack writing me about the Charlie Kirk assassination bill, this was a professionally executed assassination against the conservative GOP, right? Those in the know who have been involved with this type of mission will tell you it was not an easy shot. It was a suppressed shot. it was planned and well executed from an operator's point of view. The extreme violent rhetoric from the likes of Schumer, Pelosi, Pocahontas, Crockett, AOC, and the other leftist liberal Democrats in power. The legislative body in session at the U.S. Capitol were aghast to him when it is announced, as well as they should be.

Following video shows just how violent and just speaking your mind can be. Pay attention to the sound after Kirk's last word was gang. You know, I watched that, Jack, several times. Of course, I shared that on my social media yesterday, and it was disheartening, but I found it interesting, the timing of the shot, the discussion of mass shooting, and I think that was a part of it. The one thing I will say, though, is that as far as rifles, who's did it, who they're looking at, you know, all this unconfirmed stuff about what was written on the bullets or the cartridges or whatever it is on this found rifle, everything right now is suspect and you have to wait, you know, several days to really be able to separate the wheat from the news chaff out there. and there's a lot of noise, a lot of noise out there. Be careful, okay. 7-7-0K-M-E-D.

Let me grab a couple of calls here. Good morning. Who's this? Welcome. Good morning, Bill. It's Francine. Francine? Welcome.

Yeah. What's up? Well, I just, you know, I'm sorry to say it. I left the show and one take with my dog for a little walk. And please don't be offended. It's not personal. Oh, I'm not offended. No, I understand.

Well, you know, we all are at points sometimes where you can only hand. handle so much of it and you have to that's why I was more than delighted to talk about brewfest for a few minutes. Okay, great. Let's go have a few beers and pretend everything's okay, you know? Well, here's the reason I'm calling. I ran into

a couple of my friends and they're very leftist and the woman says to me, did you hear about what happened yesterday? I said, oh, you mean Charlie Kirk? She goes, yeah. And I said, oh, it's pretty awful, wasn't it? She goes, yeah. But, you know, he was

He was so full of hate speech. He was really down on black people, and he was really full of hate speech. So that excuses the assassination, disagreeing with him. He was saying, this is what the left is talking about, how they're describing him. Now, I've never listened to him, so I don't know what he's like, but I doubt that he was full of hate speech. Oh, he was not. What it was was that he was one of those people who dares to say that, gee, you know, a man is a, biological male and a woman is a biological female, which, of course, within your

friends' worldview marks them as full of hate, okay? Yeah, well, she was talking about that he's against black. I have no idea. I think, okay, so I think most likely against the Black Lives Matter racket. Yeah, I don't know. I just, all I know is that's what they're being fed. You know, I mean, they... Well, that's what they're feeding each other, too.

You know, and that kind of thing. Reach them. Try to reach in there. All right? Okay. I got to go. We're just out of time, though, but we'll continue this conversation on Find Your Phone Friday. We'll do it again. Thank you.

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