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The Bill Meyer Show podcast is sponsored by Klausur Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausordrilling.com. Here's Bill Meyer. So great to have you here this morning on Conspiracy Theory Thursday, September 18, 2025. That means as generous as I would normally be with your time, I'll be even more generous and understanding if you wanted to let something fly. I'm good with that.

770563-770KMED, the email bill at Bill at Bill. Myershow.com. By the way, I just wanted to make apologies. If you had called my office phone over the last few weeks, it's really weird because I don't have a desk phone here because the radio station studio is my office. So I did have this one phone extension, which is out in the hallway, and it has a little red light on it that says when I have messages, when people would call the front office

and get through. And so I'd noticed for like two or three weeks, oh gosh, I guess no one's calling through the front office. They're either calling my cell phone or they're emailing me if they had a question, you know, because I always get a lot of that. And then I thought, and then Jan wrote me about something, a listener Janet, and said, I left you a message and I looked on the phone and the red light wasn't lit up. So I went on and apparently the red light's broken. And so I have like three weeks or so of messages that I'm going to be. I got like 24 messages in there that I hadn't realized that. So if you thought I was ignoring you, it's just a

technology thing and I do promise I will do a better job about that okay sorry about that we're going to be getting new phones with the new ownership of the company anyway we're going to have a new phone system here with a marquee broadcasting taking over and we're going to you know we're in the process of figuring out where uh kmvu fox 26's main control room is is going in so it's just a lot going on going on a lot around here and we'll have a better chance at at getting those phones in and answered and everything else in. We've needed the new phone system for a number of years, and I think we're going to be going to some Internet kind of thing.

It's the way everybody else does it. But anyway, I just wanted to let you know. That was what's going on. Hey, first guess, I will have quite a few guests this morning. But we're going to have a bit of a pallet cleanser after all the incredible negative bad news. And what I'm going to be doing is talking with Samuel, Garza Bernstein, and he wrote a biography, rather, on the late Caesar Romero, one of the golden grates of Hollywood in Hollywood's golden age, and everybody knows him, you know, these

days best as the original Batman. Well, the World Batman Day is going to be Saturday. So I thought we would talk with his biographer about Caesar Romero. What an interesting cat. And as I was going through the book, the book was a lot. a lot of fun actually. You know, reading about old goldmage Hollywood when things seem to make a little

more sense, you know, in those days than Hollywood today. But Caesar was a Republican. Helped out Richard Nixon, helped Ronald Reagan get elected, all sorts of various other things. And I guess it was no big deal to be an actor in those days and be a registered Republican,

or maybe it's because he was older, they let him go. I don't know. But we'll talk with his biographer coming up in just a little bit. I think quite interesting. And no wonder everybody wants to play the Joker. The Joker is the over-the-top character in the Batman series, right? Absolutely. Nicholson and all the rest of them. 13 minutes after six, he had a bomb found in a bathroom at a state park on the Oregon coast. Did you hear about this one? Yeah, Salem statesman's journal reporting that a bomb was

found in the bathroom of a public bathroom, sunset beach, state. Park, September 16th. So it was a couple of days ago. Oregon State Police ended up deactivating it, and they discovered this backpack about 10.30 in the morning, North Coast State Park in Clatsup County. And they contacted OSP, and they went and took care of business. Haven't heard much more about it after that, but that's kind of a strange development. A little concerning, wouldn't you say?

That's one story. We'll be keeping an eye on. Naturally, since it is conspiracy theory Thursday, though, I always want your calls, too. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome to the show. Welcome to you, Bill. Good morning. It's Patrick. Deplorable Patrick. Deplorable Patrick, part of the early morning risers club on my show. I appreciate you being here. What's up? Well, we heard some sort of an announcement last week on your show from a caller about another Charlie Kirk rally for this Sunday, because a lot of people didn't get to the last.

Yeah, yeah, and, you know, something, I didn't write that down at the time because it was in the middle of all those calls. Do you recall what the details were on that? I'd have to go back and listen to the podcast and find it. I'm real sorry about that. People have been asking me,

and gosh, I haven't went back and looked it up and tried to find it in the show archives yet. And I'm not exactly sure what time. You remember what time of day that was that helped you find it out, sometimes skipping through the show. He has a bit of a work there.

What do you think? Well, the caller said it was 430, so people could have plenty of time to get out of church. But my call today is to urge whoever is called before should call again and give us the details. I've put out the word to several people, but without all the details, thinking that the details would be forthcoming, then I could fill in the details. And now, if I don't have enough details. Yeah, I haven't heard any additional details at this point. But if there's anyone listening who can kind of tell us if there is going to be that Charlie Kirk event, a memorial event on Sunday that the caller ended up bringing up, please just call.

And we'll just ask him to call and see if we can get it out again and get a solid lead on that, okay? Yeah, that's the purpose of my call. And apparently it's a driving rally where people just get in a car caravan and where's it start, you know? Yeah. So, and then it's going to wind up somewhere and stuff like that. Okay, well, we'll just keep hitting the phones, and maybe the person who called then we'll call now, okay? And then maybe you can put it on your website because I won't be able to write everything down likely so. Okay, well, like I can write when I'm talking, right? I'll write what, I'll do it for you then, all right?

Well, you always do the magic stuff. You wear 10 hats and you have four or five hands. I need to hire my AI assistant to do that kind of stuff. We'll put AI to work for me. And then, of course, the AI can screw it up for everybody, okay? Why didn't I think of that? Thanks, Patrick. 770563 on Conspiracy Theory Thursday. Hi, good morning. This is Bill.

Who's this? Welcome. Good morning, Bill. Hi, Logan. I heard somebody ask about our event, so I wanted to give the details. Oh, okay. Now, see, I'm going to type fast. So go ahead and give it to me so I can put that up.

1.30 Sunday. 1.30 Sunday. Okay. We are meeting on Learway in between Commerce Drive and Coker Butte Road. Okay. There's a big old Blue Cross building there, big open parking lots. We figured that would be enough place to fit up the thousands of vehicles that are going to be there. Okay, okay, so Learway between Commerce Drive.

Is that over by where Costco used to be, Highway 62, in that neighborhood? You nailed it. You nailed it. Okay. Yeah, between the old Costco and if you did that run. road that goes back to the old Lithia, all the new Lithia car lot. All right. So, in other words, this is by Hobby Lobby, that Hobby Lobby neighborhood, to where that's

going to be. Yep, right? Yep. If you drive over towards that neck of the woods, you won't be able to miss us. Okay, so 1.30, what are you calling it? What is being called? Hmm? This is called the We Are Charlie Honor Cruz.

We are Charlie Honor Cruz. That's what it is. All right. Yep, and we started a turning point southern Oregon chapter. I mean, this is a movement. I don't know if you've looked into a bill, but the time that Charlie was martyred was 1223. And I encourage you to maybe, in your listeners,

to check out John 1223. Everything is divine, Bill. Okay. I will take a look at that. All right. But one way or the other, we are, Charlie, Honor Cruz. And that is going to be 1.30.

On 30. 1.30 Sunday on Learway. in between Commerce Drive and Coker Butte Road. Okay, duly noted. Thanks a bunch, sir. All right. 19 minutes after six, this is the Bill Myers show. 21 minutes after six.

Another story that is bubbling under the surface around here is about the Jacksonville City Council. They were proposing a plasm and talking the other day about feedback. K.O.B.I was reporting on this. I saw the story the other day. I thought it was pretty interesting. They were looking for a couple of options. One of the two options was to make a permanent pedestrian plaza on North Third Street off of California Street. This is off of North Third, okay?

And so there'd be lots of places to seat and sit rather and spaces for festivals and markets and holiday events. It would also close the road except for emergency access. And, of course, this is the part that kind of raised my hackles. I was thinking not a good idea. And, of course, the grains in Jacksonville, I think, are very big on wanting to shut down absolutely everything that might have to do with vehicular traffic. The business people on the other hand are thinking, gosh, you know, we would like to have some people come to Jacksonville and buy stuff, too. And they're not going to be getting here by Rickshaw. The reason I bring up that Rickshaw is that there was this visioning plan, just kind of like Vision 2040 in Medford, in which years ago, I remember there was a resident when I was living in Jacksonville, said that,

Well, we should close all the roads, and then we should have rickshaws that are hauled along by former timber workers, you know, the mill workers, and then they can take the tourism, the tourists in and out of Jacksonville. But that's kind of the tone-deaf way that a lot of the Greens work here in southern Oregon. That's just fine. You know, you get to go on the nasty public transit or something like that, but they on the other. the hand will continue to have their green SUVs, you know, that kind of thing. Jacksonville is a interesting town, right? It's a little different than it was maybe 30, 40 years ago. But anyway, I have to actually hand it off to the Jackson City Council, Jacksonville City Council,

because the other proposal was a festival plaza where the street is open for two-way traffic, but still could be closed off for events. In other words, be able to keep using it for. transportation and use it when you needed. Now, the majority of the comments there were, oh, no, we want it all shut down because this is where the agenda-driven gangrenees come out and they make it pretty well known. Jacksonville City Council more or less saying that, yeah, we're kind of liking the, we use it when we need to, but we keep it open otherwise.

So I just wanted to say kudos to the Jacksonville City Council looking out for a broader benefit for the community rather than the agenda-based solution to the non-problem. So just saying, I thought that was an interesting story, okay? All right. Other news this morning, and I think maybe we're going to hear more about this study in Oregon as time goes on, I was reading Epic Times, and this is a fascinating study that they came out because, you know, in Oregon, we have this, you know, we're one of the earlier de-regulators and legalization of cannabis here.

We're one of the states that went all in on this. We also went all in on and pretty much open drug use, too. We kind of backed away from this. But the more they look at modern cannabis, the less good it looks in some cases. An epic time study, there's a new study that they're reporting on that has found the very first direct evidence that cannabis use causes chromosome problems in human embryos.

So they're really warning, they're trying to, with this study, warn young women, especially young pregnant women. No, we say women here, not pregnant people, okay? But they're trying to warn women about this. And women who have detectable THC levels, you know, that's the psychoactive side of marijuana, showing a 9% increase in genetic abnormalities in the embryos during fertility treatments. And this research was published in nature communication. And it's not a bad-sized study.

They analyzed more than a thousand women undergoing in vitro fertilization. So these were already women who were having difficulty getting pregnant. And marijuana does, according to this study, seem to be affecting female fertility. Like I said, he had a thousand people in this one. They exposed human egg cells to the THC for about a day. And the exposed eggs showed 9% higher rate of chromosomal errors, greater frequency of other abnormalities in the cell structure,

and it is linked to failure of in vitro fertilization. You know, the egg does it implant and all the rest of it. And let's see, Dr. Trisha Shaw, who's, an endocrinologist and fertility doctor at Conceptions, Florida, not involved in the study, but as she tells the epic times, cannabis can also reduce egg quality and increase time to conception. In the second study, only 60% of embryos in the THC positive group showed the correct number of chromosomes compared to 67% of embryos in the THC negative group. So it is, it's a problem. be a problem and it may be something if you, you know, have a young woman in your life who

likes to be a partaker of cannabis and is trying to get pregnant, maybe back away. Now, this was a study about involving in vitro fertilization, but I don't think it's too big of a leap to say that maybe okay for if people who are having trouble getting pregnant have even more trouble getting pregnant with IVF, when they're using marijuana, maybe the young people who are just trying to form families and are big smokers or smokers of marijuana or, you know, they take it in other forms, it could be a problem. And so I just thought it was an interesting story. You can find that in Epic Times.

627 at KMED and 993 KBXG. 25 basis point cut in the interest rate. that interest rate cut and the markets kind of liked it kind of tepid i don't know it's kind of back and forth in this one and uh yeah everyone is talking about the fact that there are probably going to be more interest rate cuts and we'll see where that uh that goes i always like to go to sean ring though sean ring on the daily reckoning i kind of enjoy the way he tends to look at this uh by j powell's reckoning he's uh he writes this morning the sky isn't falling but he's already handing out the parachutes

for the first time since the Fed's 2024 trim Federal Reserve trimmed its benchmark interest rate by 0.25%. Chairman Powell strolled up to the podium yesterday looking calm but sounding just a tad nervous like a pilot telling you it's just a little turbulence while quietly tightening his harness. Markets him and looking for this cut, he says, for months.

They got their snack and then looked kind of queasy. But his overall take on it, and we'll see if he's right about it, but he's been right more often than not, in my opinion. The uncomfortable truth, this cut won't fix what's broken. He says if the slowdown is real, 25 basis points is aspirin for a heart attack. If inflation resurges, this rate cut just cut the fuse. Either way, Powell's in a box, he writes, he had to move or lose credibility on the dual mandate or worse face the wrath of Donald Trump.

So there we go. That's what his take, what is it, was on. the Daily Reckoning.com. I thought that was pretty interesting. 629 at KMED. 489 3070. This is the Bill Myers

Show on 1063 KMED. Call Bill now. 541-770 5633. That's 770 KMED. 634. Really sad story out of York County, Pennsylvania. We had five police officers,

well, three dead, two hurting in the hospital. right now. And the suspect dead. They went to serve a warrant at this home after a domestic, some kind of domestic situation that went on yesterday.

And three police officers shot and killed dead right there. It's very, very sad. And here's the conspiracy theory Thursday side of this. Because they've talked about this. They've talked about the victims.

But they have not identified the man, the man, the subject, the suspect that they were going to serve a warrant on. And I wanted to just let you know about another side of this story, which is getting very little reporting right now. The consulate of Mexico and Philadelphia reportedly was monitoring the York County police incident. This was reported at W.E. WHTM, WHTM ended up reporting this. Now remember, they have not identified the person who they were going after, who reportedly either killed himself or police officers killed him, and of course he killed five, three

officers, rather, and hurt two more. But the Consulate of Mexico and Philadelphia puts out this deal. This was the statement that they put out. The Mexican community is recommended to follow. official instructions. If you require consular assistance, you can contact your emergency telephone number, and then they gave the telephone number. So this was the Mexican consulate in Philadelphia saying this, at the same time that the rest of the media and, of course, Pennsylvania authorities have not identified the person that they were going after. Now,

there may be a perfectly reasonable explanation to this, but I'm wondering if we are talking about an illegal alien criminal gone nuts or, you know, was not going to be taken in. We don't know it's pure speculation at this point, but the fact that they have not identified this person does make me suspect that there could be a little bit more. This could have to do with, once again, the happy, peaceful, illegal alien meme punching above their weight in the crime and violence department, possibly. is pure speculation on my part but when you have the

Mexican consulate come out there and say everybody if you need help you can get in touch with us the point being though is that the consulate put out that information and then withdrew the post took the post down now there is the possibility

that what we're looking at right now is maybe it was misidentified and the consulate thought that it was a Hispanic or Mexican of some sort or you know someone from Mexico and then ended up not being true. Possibly. Possibly that's it.

We don't know at this point. But I definitely want to keep a look on that. That's definitely a conspiracy theory Thursday story. Patrick writes me, Bill, you were just talking about THC use in marijuana being linked to in vitro fertilization failure and genetic damage could be an insurance problem. If insurance implements a THC test when covering fertility treatments, they could conceivably slap an exclusion of coverage for THC positive tests,

meaning that if you test positive for THC, no IFV coverage for you. It's just a matter of risk. It's pretty interesting, Patrick. I hadn't considered that being a part of the equation, but there does appear to be some connection with a higher risk of problem pregnancies with THC. Now, one could say, and now I'm not a doctor, maybe someone who is more of a medical person could explain this better than me, but one could extrapolate that if it is difficult, more difficult to have a successful pregnancy with in vitro fertilization if you are on THC, if you have detectable levels of THC in your system, one might be able to extrapolate that using THC would help just an otherwise normal young woman,

the baby and raise the possibility of there being chromosomal damage to the baby. And if so, that's a big deal. All right. It's something worth talking about. It's something to consider. Also, when it comes to, I don't know if we're going to have enough time before Caesar Romero's biographer comes on here in just a minute or two. Well, Ammon Week has a headline right now.

And this is kind of going back to the kind of stuff I've been talking about. now for months, ever since we've had all the nurses' strikes. And by the way, I'm not blaming Providence's financial problems on the ONA strike, the strikes that have gone on there. But it certainly didn't help. It didn't put Providence in a better situation. Well, Amit Week, front page in Oregon, Providence lost a quarter of a billion dollars in three months.

Even in the state of Oregon, that's real money. and they say that's not even the bad news and the overall takeaway is as the hospitals are spending more and more everyday people are footing the bill so that was an interesting story that will have to be keeping an eye on there too and just like I said

I've been saying that Providence has been living on its reserves for a long, long time they used to have about six months of operating cash in the bank so that if there's any kind of money problem well now they're only down to about 90 days so yeah they've been having some issues 20 before 7 on kmED changing weather nor you're here in the bill mire's show on 106 3 kmED come my puckish partners and plunder

Batman has been outwitted and the fabulous dual collection is ours you know it's great to have a talk every day and then in talk radio that I would term the pallet cleanser and this is definitely one of those. Samuel Garza Bernstein joins me, and he has written the book about the very first Joker, Caesar Romero, Joker is Wild. How are you doing there?

By the way, Samuel or Garza, how do you like to be preferred to be directed? You can call me Sam. Okay. You can call me Sam. You can call me anything you want. I will call you Sam then, just because it's easier.

Okay. But World Batman Day, September 20th, and we're celebrating the fact that Caesar Romero, The Latin from Manhattan, Joker is Wild, great biography. I wanted to say it was a great look into the Golden Age of Hollywood. What got you into that? I'm just kind of curious, first off, Sam. Well, I was very curious about the origin story of the Joker beyond, you know, what it is in the comic book universe.

And someone told me about how there had not been, it was my agent actually, told me that there had not been a book about Caesar. Romero, and I was just flabbergasted. And so I started looking into his life and his career, and I just found so much there, you know, so much to explore. And you had to go back. What did he first hit Hollywood? What era was he in Sam? He came to Hollywood in 1934, and it was not that long after the switchover to sound.

I mean, there were still actually theaters in America that were showing silent movies in 1934. So he was there when everything was kind of beginning in a way. Yeah. And he was able to play so many different characters. He was the Fiscoe Kid. He was an Indian chieftain. He was a Latin lover with Marlina Dietrich and Carmen Miranda. But you say in the book that most of the time, Sam, well, most of the time, Sam, he didn't get the girl, though, right?

Wasn't that the case the way it worked at most of those movies? Well, a lot of the time he didn't get the girl, but he got the girl most of the time, I would say. Oh, okay. He did. He wasn't usually the triangle situation. It was usually there would be two couples, like an Anglo couple, so you'd have like Betty Grable and John Payne. And then there would be the exotic, quote-unquote, couple like Carmen Miranda and Caesar Romero. So he might make a play for Betty Grable, but he would always end up with Carmen. Got it.

Okay. Well, that makes a lot of sense. And kind of like Rock Hudson closeted gay man in Hollywood. It's pretty much what they figured out now, where you have? Well, you know, it's funny. I don't think of it as closeted. I think of it as private because his friends and people in his life, they all knew. It wasn't an era when you would be, you know, public about your orientation in that

way. But he never pretended. He never got married. He never, you know, went along with some big fiction about having this love life. He was a very, very kind of down-to-earth real person, and even as he was this suave, elegant man who could dance and, you know, and more clothes so well. And, you know, just he was a very authentic man. Now, when he ended up taking the part of the Joker, what, that 65, 66 in that era, I was just a little kid, you know, and I watched him on television every week, and I didn't know anything about his past deal. Did he actually try for that, or do they reach out to them? How did he end up getting the part? Just curious.

You know, he was on various casting lists they put together. He was great friends with the executive producer's wife, which doesn't hurt, but he was number three on the list behind a couple of other Oscar winners. And, you know, that's how casting works. You're just looking at who wants to do it, who might be available, what would the chemistry be like? You don't know that you're creating something that's going to be a cultural obsession. and until it explodes on screen and suddenly 60% of the country is turning on their television and watching this, you know, twice a week. And, you know, you can't have good guys without good, you have to have good bad guys,

and he played a great bad guy, over the top, lovely, right? Absolutely, and I think there was great chemistry with Adam West, just Batman. And they had this great kind of, for the adults, there was that wink-wink kind of campy meta-quality of it. But for kids, it was just action and color and fun and, you know, and this kind of joyful rivalry between these two characters that was very much the way children play outside in the yard. Yeah. And what I also found interesting, and by the way, I'm talking with Sam Bernstein, author of the book about the first Joker, Caesar Romero, it's Joker as well. It's a fun look back into classic Hollywood. And he was always generous with the fans afterwards,

because he was on lunchboxes and everywhere, right? He wasn't one of those people who shied away from people who remembered him, wasn't it? No, he loved. You know, people would ask him in restaurants and airports and on the street, would you do the laugh, what you do the last? And he would always do it. He even did it once when he was going into the hospital for an operation. Even if I coming on, you know, and a little kid was there going,

oh, my gosh, the Joker, would you do your lap? And he's like, okay. He loved it. Burgess Meredith didn't. He was sort of like, stop asking me about the penguin. Yeah. I did all these other things. But Caesar just, he really embraced the love that he felt from the public. And he was also quite active in politics there for a while, too. Registered Republican, helped Nixon and Ronald Reagan, governor in California.

And interesting history. A lot of the people that were running were his friends. who were former actors who went into, just like Ronald Reagan, who went into politics, and he was friends with these guys. So, of course, he was going to support them and help them out. Very good. I thought it was a great book, wonderful look back at the Golden Age of Hollywood and some campy TV from the 1960s, too. So give you a thumbs up on that one, Sam.

Thanks for the call. Great having you on. We'll get all your information up there. Okay. Thank you so much. Fantastic. Thank you. Sam Garza Bernstein, and the book is about Caesar Romero.

It's Caesar Romero. It's a highly recommend it, and it's not just about the politics, but the golden age, the way it worked. And by the way, he was termed the Latin from Manhattan, and another nickname was Butch. I don't get that name, but maybe I'll have to go back to the book, but I thought it was fun. So there you go, your Palick-Clenzer interview from the morning. It's 11 before 7. Or call 1-855. The Bill Myers Show on 1063 KMED.

Join the conversation at 7705-633, 770KMED. By the way, it is Conspiracy Theory Thursday, which means that I'm even a little more, shall we say, tolerant. Not that I'm particularly intolerant with crazy people calling the show. I'm not. But, you know, this is a day in which we will widen the Overton window

if you wish, all right? And the number 7705-633. Before we ended up moving on to some of the stories that I ended up selecting stories that I think are kind of interesting here in Southern Oregon, I wanted to go back. Something I forgot to mention when I was talking with Sam Garza who wrote the book about Caesar Romero, the original Joker. And it was great to read about someone who didn't shrink away from it.

And, well, it's kind of like, you know, if you've ever been, if you were ever a person that was at a Barbara Streisand, a Barbara Streisand concert, or I would dare say a Willie Nelson concert. You know, people went there to hear them sing their hits, right? And I remember when Willie Nelson came to Britt. And when it came time to go through his big hits on the road again at that time and all these other things. He just did the stupid medley because it was obvious that he didn't really like being here. On the road again, on the road again. You were always on my mind. You were always on my mind. You know, that's how it was described to me. And it's like Barbara Streisand when you would try

to get her to sing the way we were. Now, one of her fans' favorite songs, but yet she would always go out there, oh, I have to make this really, really different. No, we want to hear you sing it the way we knew the song, right? And there's sometimes this sneering arrogance you get from those in stardom, who everybody knows you for this, but no, I'm not going to give it to you. I'm not going to give it to you because I'm tired of singing this song or I'm tired of. And then you listen to someone like Caesar Romero, who had just a big heart, apparently. And you wanted him to do the Joker laugh.

He'd do the Joker laugh, even going into the hospital. Someone who, generosity of spirit. I just like that. It cheered me. It was really kind of a different era, too. You know, it's just, do the Joker laugh. Okay, I've done it three billion times, and I'll do it one more time. There's another way of looking at it.

Someone like him, I forget which comic, some comic or some star made something like that. Hey, I don't mind doing this song or singing this song or doing this joke or whatever it is because it's like writing the back of a check. And that's, I think, the way maybe Caesar Romero looked at it. But I always remember that. Anyway, I just like that. Also, the other thing is that he had a huge family, you know, Hispanic family, and they were living in New York City at that point,

and probably not really nice housing for what I understand. So in the 1930s, when he ended up getting called out to Hollywood, and he was making big money in the Great Depression in that time. And so he brought his entire family. He took the entire family out of New York to plopped him into L.A. and put them up in nice homes. I don't know if it was a family compound or not. I haven't gotten that far in the book.

But I thought it was a lot of fun. It's a great book to read. And I love that look back at classic Hollywood and also a time in which we didn't have to know the politics and or the sexual orientation of everybody out there. And we have to be either proud and or saluting and or embracing someone's sexual orientation or identity of some sort of thing. It's just kind of nuts the way things have been going.

Speaking of nuts, and kind of going into this politics and entertainment here, by this time you've heard that the ABC has taken Jimmy Kimmel's show off the air. And ostensibly this is all about their remarks that he made on Charlie Kirk's killing. Now, Axios reporting here, network spokesman did not comment beyond saying that the show will be preempted indefinitely. The biggest owner of ABC affiliated stations, which is a next star, by the way, said earlier yesterday that Kimmel's program would be replaced starting Wednesday night. Mr. Kimmel's comments about the death of Mr. Kirk are offensive, insensitive at a critical time in our nation's political discourse. They said, we don't believe that they reflect the spectrum of opinion, views, or values of the local communities in which they are located. This, according to Andrew Elford, who is the president of Next Star's Broadcasting Division. Nextar owns ABC stations, by the way, more 30 markets, Nashville, New Orleans, Salt Lake City, big ones.

And continuing to give Mr. Kimmel a broadcast platform in the communities we serve is simply not in the public interest at the current time. And we have made the difficult decision to preempt his show in an effort to let cooler heads prevail as we move forward. So ABC now deciding to indefinitely suspend Jimmy Kimmel Live. So that's gone. I'm not surprised. I mean, he was going into this whole idea that the shooter was, you know, ultra mega because the family was mega and all the evidence points the other way. I continue to say this being conspiracy theory Thursday that the only thing I really know for sure at this point is that Charlie Kirk is dead. Okay. As far as all the details, I don't even want to, you know, go into the various ways that you could interpret some of the evidence and or a lack of evidence, okay?

You know, if you want to do that, fine, you can jump off that cliff if you want. Jimmy Kimmel, of course, is making it sound as if this is Trump and that Trump had somebody to do it in Trump's supporters. And I just look at this as nobody's watching the show any longer. and it's just like what happened with Stephen Colbert. First and foremost, I know that those from the left don't like to think of it this way, but broadcasting is not just going out there. It's not there where you're given the license where you just shove your opinion out there and you trash half the country and you think that everyone is going to watch you,

including the half that you just trashed, right? That's that kind of thing. Now, talk radio, we tend to be a little more diverse. you know, we're splintered, you know, that kind of thing. I don't know how many Democrats or progressives are watching the show. I don't think there are too many. I understand that. But I don't take an opinion just because I think that you might agree with it.

As you well know, I disagree with the Trump administration on things down then, and I've talked about it, and some people get angry with me. But my job, my job here as a talk show host, is not to push my. agenda, or it's not to push the Republican agenda, although I am friendlier to the Republican agenda, and I'm totally hostile to what passes as the left wing these days, but that's not the way the late night shows have been run. They haven't been funny, and they've been really expensive. Now, Colbert, they're not being open about what the ABC paid to have Jimmy Kimmel show on.

Colbert was $100 million a year, I guess, in cost, including a $20 million salary for Colbert, if I recall correctly. Jimmy Kimmel was less than that, maybe $11, $12 million last time I heard. But, okay, let's figure even if it was, you know, $60 million or $50 million a year, whatever it would cost Disney to run this show, they've been losing money on it. late night television has being uh well people are losing money on late night television everywhere you go in fact maybe even fox you know you even look at uh what goes on with uh with gutwell uh gutfeld and things the entire nighttime comedy sort of thing is uh is just not what it used to be i would imagine though gutfeld's probably the best or most successful out of all of them i would think at least no no for sure but all

Ultimately, this is about money. And when you have Next Star coming out and saying, hey, you know, the TV stations we own, we're just going to preempt this. And then you have ABC saying, hey, we needed an excuse to cut Kimmel sooner rather than later. We're losing our shirt. And this is how that works. And a business decision is made. And, of course, they're going to try to make him a martyr of the left again, just like Colbert was over at those awards ceremonies over the last weekend. I didn't watch those either.

But you know, they stood up for him that, oh, you know, the warrior for truth, you know, all that kind of stuff, all that nonsense. But anyway, it is Conspiracy Theory Thursday on KMED, KMED, H.D1 Eagle Point Medford, KBXG, Grants Pass. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Good morning, Bill. It's Francine. Hi, Francine. Hello.

What do you thinking? You know, I've been thinking about what I'm hearing with all of this. First of all, the network, they have every right to can somebody that's saying things that they don't like. It's a business, you know. You can fire anybody you want for whatever reason you feel is justified. You are an employee. That's just the bottom line. You're employee like anybody else.

So that part I completely get. And I also think, yeah, there's a lot of, you know, people saying things that are really offensive or really hurtful or whatever. You know, that's not good, but they have the right to say that. And then, of course, they risk getting fired for it, and that's just the way it goes. But what is troubling me is this whole thing about you can't say this and you can't say that has been going on for a really long time. This whole hate speech, you know, it's not, it's people's opinions are being labeled as, you know, something horrible and illegal. Like, they're not going to change the way they think by telling them they can't say it, you know, and people know they say it. And their actions will show how, what, what they are.

are and all that. But the point being, I think that even though it's not wrong to control what's being put out on the air on your own network, we are heading towards some very serious, what's the word for? I'm blanking. Restrictions on speech? Well, yeah, yeah, you know, you're not allowed to say things. Well, for a long, long time, there are many things that, well, already, we know that when it comes to, in the United States, anything about Israel tends to be tightly curated. And everybody knows. Everybody knows. Thomas Massey has made that clear.

And that's just one example, but things that you are not allowed to acknowledge, okay? You know, you start talking about black crime statistics, right? You're not allowed to talk about that. Well, you know, those sort of things are actually, it's starting to get so intense right now. now that people are, that Overton window is starting to be widened in all sorts of ways. So it may work out better than you think, but ultimately, though, everybody has to be smart about their own situation. Like, you know, I self-edit.

Everybody has to self-fet it. If you're smart, you will self-edit. There are certain things that, you know, you'd love just to blather out. But, you know, Bill, some people that are, you know, their personalities, they're known all over the country, all over the world, and they feel like they are so cool and they're so hip and everybody loves them so much that whatever they say, everybody's going to go, yeah, yeah, yeah. Until they say something that everybody doesn't like and go, yeah, yeah, right?

But yeah, it's a lot of it's ego-driven and they're also pushing their own agenda. Well, and let's look at, well, what happened with Jimmy Kimmel as an example. I don't want presidents getting anybody fired. I don't think President Trump had anything to do with that getting fired. I think that ABC was just looking for a good excuse that, hey, we're losing our shirt on this late night. It's just not working all that well. And so, you know, off we have to, you know, off we go to the races here. But Jimmy Kimmel, on the other hand, should have been a smart enough man to realize to read America's room.

You know, and that's what I don't understand, what I can't grasp. Well, I'll tell you something, Bill, people on the left. And I know this because when I was a kid, you know, like, well, my late teens and stuff, and I thought, oh, yeah, the Democrats are the good guys and the Republicans or the warmongers. You know, I didn't know anything about politics, not a thing. And so the whole, there's this, there's an essence that goes around with people that are on the left, that we are the good people. We are the good one. And the more you have to say that you're the good one, the more you're covering. Well, you're covering up. But, I mean, they think they have the right to, you know, to get up and say things. They're needed to do that. Well, yeah, it's a moral battle.

And so someone who disagrees with us, since we're the good people, you disagree with us. And then you're a Nazi. And what do we do with Nazis? Well, we kill them, right? Yeah. Yeah. And that's where we find ourselves right now. But still, Jimmy Kimmel, it was the biggest idiotic self-immolation that I think that I've seen

you know, in a long, long time, though, because it was an unforced error, so to speak, okay? Yeah, yeah, I mean, I'm, you know, I'm good with that. You know, all he had to do was maybe just start doing a late-night television show that people liked watching again and maybe back off the politics and maybe just have some fun. And there was a lot less of that going on, and the viewing audience numbers showed it

and the lack of advertising revenue coming in showed it. And that's what happens in the real world. Yeah, I mean, I've never seen the guy. I don't watch TV or anything like that. So I have no idea what he was like. He had moments of great humor, but at the other time, I was joking on Facebook last night, that, well, at least we have the best of, oh, those best of DVDs of Jimmy Kimmel available. And someone said, is there a best of DVD?

That's okay, well, maybe it's a USB thumb drive or something, you know, that they get some out there. Got to go. But thank you for the call there, Francy. a pleasure on Conspiracy Theory Thursday. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome. Hey, Bell, it's Lynn.

Hi, Lynn. How are you doing? Hey, I'm doing well, but I don't know if you guys discuss this. I just tuned in. ABC took him off the air shortly after the FCC chairman threatened. He said we could do this the easy way or the hard way. It's time to be more assertive in... No, I did not realize that.

And if so, that's not good. That's not right. No, it's really bad. I mean, Kimmel is a terrible person. He's the one who said people who aren't vaccinated should not be treated at the hospital. I mean, he's not funny. He's disgusting. He lied. But it's legal to lie. I would have been fine if ABC fired him or took him off the air on their own. But they didn't. They were threatened by a member of our government. And I think this is really bad. And I think there needs to be an outcry against it. We don't know if that's what did it or not. My opinion is that I think that ABC was looking for the excuse because of losing money. But you could be right, though. So what? Yeah.

The FCC threatened him. Wait till the leftist gets in charge of the FCC. That's right. I mean, this is so short-sighted. Oh, I got to tell you, it's like, well, back during the Biden administration, there was all the bleeding about the reinstating the fairness doctrine, which is to make sure that nobody talks about anything important on radio, you know? We know what sensitive. is like. And if they get back in power, it'll be worse. So this is really, really terrible, and I don't know what the FCC. I can't think of his name now, but I don't know what he's...

Brendan Carr. Branden Carr. Thank you. Brendan Carr, that's who it was. Look it up. Shortly after he made that statement, they pulled him off the air. All right. I will look that up, and thank you very much for that. Okay? Take care. All right. Always thoughtful, Lynn. Keep it thoughtful on Conspiracy Theory Thursday.