Bill Meyer Show Podcast - Sponsored by Clouser Drilling www.ClouserDrilling.com - 09-19-25_FRIDAY_6AM

Episode Date: September 20, 2025

09-19-25_FRIDAY_6AM

The Bill Meyer Show podcast is sponsored by Klausur Drilling. They've been leading the way in southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausurdrilling.com. Here's Bill Meyer. What a delight having you here this morning on Find Your Phone Friday. Friday, September 19th, 2025, 65 degrees on our way to about 89, a little cooler over the weekend, and some more chances of rain also in that. The whole look is coming up here with, we have Mr. Outdoors, Greg Roberts from Ruralweather.com.

hour from now, we'll dig into that, and where we go out for fun in the outdoors here, too. Join in at 770563-3-770 K-M-E-D. By the way, my email is Bill at Bill Myers Show.com. Some of the people we have coming up this morning, we're going to be talking with a person from defending Ed, one of their people, and what could be done about essentially the way that so many government school systems seem to be, in which, you know, Antifa activists, throat-punching Antifa activists seem to be, you know, a major portion of the graduating class. And I think that'll be interesting. Like I said, we'll also talk with Greg.

Jerry Flores is going to be joining me, and he is with State of Oregon, and they're having a big job fair coming up here in the next few weeks, next couple of weeks here. And they have a real focus on getting people to work in the trades. big, big, big focus on this. And I was talking with Jerry about it. He's going to join me on the show, like I said, around 730 or so. And he was talking about how there are so many jobs that are just great career, family wage. You're going to be able to buy a house. You're going to be able to take care of your family and all these things.

And they don't need a four-year degree. You don't have to go into debt for any of it. And I think this is something which is a growing trend here in Southern Oregon. So I decided we'll let him wax poetic about that, too. And I also said, you know, Jerry, there's something else about this. You know, if you're working as an electrician or doing other things in the HVAC world or you're doing construction, various other things, plumbing, whatever, that's not something which artificial intelligence is necessarily going to knock you out of commission.

He says, absolutely. There's a lot to be said for that. And we'll explore all of that in there. I mean, there's not a day that goes by in which I don't see some kind of financial news coming out about some other high-tech firm, which is saying, well, we're going to lay off 4,000 here. Oh, we're going to right size and lay off another 2 or 3,000 here because we're going to have artificial intelligence ending up, you know, replacing some of these entry-level jobs, which is, boy, I'll tell you, Gen Z that has been, Gen Z looking over its shoulder and whistling past the graveyard restaurant. because a lot of these kind of jobs which are being replaced by AI were also the introduction, you know, the brand new college graduate kind of gigs here. So that's a real challenge.

Where this goes long term, I don't know. But for the short term, though, there are jobs that are needed to be performed. And it's actually in the three-dimensional world, not in the cloud. Just saying, although you can interface with the cloud and with it too. But anyway, so we'll be having some conversation about that. Speaking of artificial intelligence, Captain Bill Simpson is going to be on the show a little bit later, too. And he ended up, and I'm getting great reports about this song that he wrote and had ghost sung, because he's not a singer, but it's about American heritage and, of course, the horses, too. I'd love to hear it.

So hopefully we're going to be able to debut that, at least on broadcast radio here, a little bit later. And, of course, your calls and opinion, we'll have a diner 62 real American quiz. See, we were talking about four-year degrees and the cost on that. Well, Southern Oregon University just voted the other day. Big cuts are coming to that. And KDRV reporting that Board of Trustees voted 72 to adopt the budget. No one's happy about it. Rick Bailey says, hey, we just have to do it.

And they're calling this plan toward a more resilient SOU translation. keeping the lights on. I think it's what they really mean. And 70 faculty staff members will be affected, and they're going to eliminate 10 major or minor programs. So there are a number of courses that are going to be eliminated. Now, the majors that they're eliminating, I find the choice interesting. Now, they're going to eliminate the math major. It doesn't mean they're not going to have math classes, but you're no longer going to be able to have a math major, majoring in math at SOU, same with chemistry, but also women and gender studies. Don't you find that entry? Women and gender studies.

Talk about a BS degree, right? Something tells me that Rick Bailey is thinking, okay, out of all the things that we could be pouring precious money into the, Women and Gender Studies, it's not that you don't want to study women. I'm not saying that at all. It's just that we know what that is. That is just a political snake pit of hard left ideology. That is all it is. That's all women and gender studies.

It's like, I'm going to go to Southern Oregon University and get my doctor, environmental. You know, environmental studies, too. What does environmental studies mean? That's the sheepskin that you get so that you can go to work in the government and for the DEQ and crush the private sector. That's essentially what that means. Well, you know, lots of ideology and these sort of things. So I don't know if having the gender studies going away is going to cause a big problem or not, but that's what is going on over at SOU for sure.

K-O-B-I-5 reporting that there was a big to-do the other night at Shady Cove, Big Bruja, multiple disruptions from the crowd. The Shady Cove mayor, Lena Richardson, adjourned the meeting early. after the public comment section. Council was supposed to appoint applicants to fill a vacant city councilor seat in the regular meeting last night. And what was going on here is that former Shady Cove counselor, Catherine Knuckles, resigned along with former mayor, John Ball. By the way, John, you're welcome back in. I reached out to him after that all happened a few months ago.

And if you want to come back in and talk about it, I'm willing to do it, really. but workplace dysfunction they're saying disagreements with the city administrator Michael Perry listed as some of the reasons for this but Knuckles then was reapplying for her position as part of a pool of candidates to fill the position and some shady co folks are disapproving of Knuckles and so they're all yelling and they're talking about private meetings and all sorts of mess and needless to say it wasn't quite to fisticuffs but yeah we're starting to see people wound a little bit tight in public comments sections, or segments rather, of some public meetings. So they ended up a delaying it. I don't know if they're going to reschedule it or not, but still they were getting pretty sporty over there in Shady Cove.

Now, similar concerns over in the Josephine County Commission. And they were talking earlier this week. That was a Daily Courier story. I saw that in that they had talked on Monday. The county commission had talked about, well, maybe we should not have a public comment, you know, public comments segments any longer, and we will just do everything online, you know, having people, you know, in there. And there, of course, I think they're looking at this from the Charlie Kirk security type of things, people, a lot of tumult in many of our local governments around here. And Josephine County, of course, has had, there's a lot of drama. It's been going on in Josephine County, especially within the governmental structure here.

A lot of changes going on. I was talking with Andreas Bleck about that the other day. Fortunately, cooler heads prevailed, and they wisely, in that story, ended up saying, yeah, we're going to keep the public comment. They're going to keep that going, but they are going to have a Josephine County Sheriff's Deputy present just in case. I think that's a reasonable way of looking at it. I'm surprised there was a Josephine County Sheriff's deputy there all along, but I know, yeah, labor is tight these days. Now then, we go over to Buffy Pollock's story in the Rogue Valley Times, and she's dig it into more trouble over at Fire District 5. You know, that's the fire palace one, the one that has the really nice fire palace on 99 South, you know, Ashland Talent in the talent area.

I always called it the Fire Palace because it was really nice. But be that as it may, they got together for a special meeting Wednesday, and they were talking about they didn't know, well, they're already in financial trouble. Okay, this is the bottom line. They're having financial trouble. They have this mutual aid. Fire District 3 is now providing administration for it, and it's just been kind of a year and a half of a slow motion collapse, you know, going on over at Fire District 5. but then they found, I guess they had forgot about this or somehow it got hidden, there was a $1.4 million grant from FEMA that was previously unknown to the current fire district officials, and it is now due in full. Now, $1.4 million when you're a local fire district, that's a lot of money.

This is a big deal. So they held an emergency session to talk about this FEMA loan. Now, this was a fee malone from the Almeida fire era. And the way I understand it is that this $1.4 million was supposed to make up for a lack of property taxes coming in because of burned down properties, right? You see what I'm getting at here? And this was to tide them over until they were to figure out something else. And the thing is, though, is that the property tax going into the fire district, it didn't go down nearly as much as they, They thought, I guess they thought it was going to go down as much as $1.4 million, and then it only went down a little over $100,000.

And so Fire District 5 apparently kept tapping this money anyway, and now because of this, they're going to have to pay it back. Oops. So they just kept spending it, and then more tax money came in than they thought, and I guess they spent that too. And that is a great story over there in Road Valley Times. That's worth taking a look at, too, along with the Daily Courier and that deal. Well, I'll tell you, it's just interesting, interesting times. Now, there is a possibility that they might, they might be able to get that forgiven by the federal government. We'll have to stay tuned on that one for sure.

22 minutes after 6 on KMED and 993 KBXG, boy, there is a lot of battling both nationally and even in some of our states for control and domination. Or I should say, at least influence over the news organs. Yeah, between President Trump, Brandon Carrey, now Governor, any twosom, newsome, yep, everyone's diving in. I'll share a little bit of that coming up. Hi, I'm Michael with Gage of Construction, and I'm on KMED. Hey, it's Friday. I always went more Cal Bell. 7705-633-770 KMED, if you wanted to join in on Find Your Phone Friday, and always great talk here.

I appreciate you being an early morning riser here on the program. I love the story. Washington Post, Democrat elected officials arrested at ICE facility in New York City, more than a dozen New York elected officials. All members of the Democratic Party arrested Thursday at the federal building while trying to get into the U.S. immigration and customs enforcement holding facility and protesting the Trump administration's mass deportation campaign. But, well, you know, a dozen New York elected officials. arrested it's a start it's a start there's just having fun with that one this one not so much fun not so much fun I wanted to touch in on so what I consider to be some real free speech issues here and of course a lot of us having to do with Jimmy Kimmel and I'm going to be a

little more nuanced than what I've been hearing from the talk radio world the talk world has been all digging into, well, Jimmy Kimmel got fired strictly because of the market. He didn't have money. He wasn't making money and they wanted them gone, et cetera, et cetera. That is perfectly true. That is true. That is part of it. That's not the whole story, though.

I don't think that you can ignore what has been going on with arm twisting from the Federal Communications Commission. kind of like nice broadcast stations they have here be a shame of something bad happened to it wouldn't you think especially when it comes time for renewal again and you're still an ABC affiliate

and you're still playing that Jimmy Kimmel hateful show right and by the way this is not defending Jimmy Kimmel Jimmy Kimmel is a jerk okay he doubled down on his jerkiness in the wake of the Charlie Kirk

murder last week okay so I'm not Don't take this as a defense of this, but there are strange rumblings coming out of the Trump administration that I must tell you, I'm not, I'm not really, really happy with. Now, we have CNN, now take CNN. CNN is coming from the left, but that doesn't necessarily mean they're wrong, okay? FCC chair Brendan Carr, a Trump appointee, threatened to revoke ABC affiliate licenses over Jimmy Kimmel's remarks about the Charlie Kirk shooting suspect. He was on a podcast the other day and the chair of Brendan Carr suggesting that Jimmy Kimmel should be suspended and said, we can do this the easy way or the hard way. Now, let me tell you, as someone who works for a company that is regulated by the FCC,

If you have the FCC talking about your company or your station, in this case, you know, for me, KMED, of course, we're a Fox 20, where Fox 26 is moving in here, we're all getting part of this big marquee broadcast West family. If the FCC chair is out there talking on a podcast, just shooting the breeze with some bros and saying, you know, we can do this the easy way or the hard way, I assure you that FCC, possible FCC license action, had much to do with it also. I don't know if it was as much as, you know, the fact that Jimmy Kimmel was most likely not making a lot of money for ABC. Okay, we have that. And so I have a real problem with this. Of course, CNN says ABC's capitulation.

No, I think it's CNN talking about, we should really say, more accurately say, ABC saying, okay, problematic hosts, this, the other, and we have the Sinclair groups, or Next Star, I think, is what it is, the majority of their affiliates in larger markets, dropping the show and preempting the show, hang, we're not going to take this. And by the way, I guess Sinclair is actually going to be airing a Charlie Kirk Memorial tribute tonight in a place of the Jimmy Kimmel show on their Sinclair broadcast stations. I think it's really interesting, you know, about this. Now, I know that I'm sure Brendan Carr is probably following the letter of the law on something like this, but it's bad optics right now. because that was kind of the talk of a mafia boss, and I like Brendan Carr. I'm going to tell you right now, I like Brendan Carr and many things. He's done a lot of great deregulation in the broadcasting world. He did that in the first Trump administration, a lot of it that I saw that made some sense as a host

and also an operations manager, so I'd see kind of both sides of it. So I appreciate that part of it, but still, that was kind of like the Godfather movie back when I was a kid I'm going to make you an offer you can't refuse and I have no doubt that that took part that had a part of the

of the reasoning in the ABC world of hey okay yeah we're going to we're going to rain this guy in and by the way there's nothing wrong with ABC raining it in I think it was tone deaf because first off the market was taking care of this I think it was totally unnecessary to go there

and plus it ends up feeding the left's focus on President Trump being an authoritarian because it adds fuel to that fire. And is that something that we need right now? We folks on the right, you know, me and the broadcast world on the right, have been putting up with threatened attacks from the Joe Biden's and the Barack Obama's for years and years and years. I didn't want speech police coming from the right just because the right was in now. I wasn't looking for, you know, the speech, police living inside everybody's head from the right just because President Trump's in there. But still, I think this is, these are unforced errors.

I think he had Bondi the other day who was talking about hate speech. Hate speech is a fake creation of the left to go after politicized speech that we don't like politically. We disagree with you, hence, it's hate. Everybody knows that. You know, come on. And to go down that, well, there's speech, and then there's hate speech. Hate speech is protected, too. It is.

Now, that doesn't mean there can't be consequences for it. If you get fired from a job, the employer doesn't like you, et cetera, I get that. But then you have President Trump, who is talking with a bunch of reporters yesterday on Air Force One, and he digs into this whole idea about news organizations that criticize them should maybe face some license problems. You know, when a late night host is on network television, there is a licensing. I'll give you an example. I read someplace that the networks were 97% against me. I get 97% negative, and yet I won, and easily won all seven swings,

stage popular, I won everything. And if they're 97% against, they give you only bad publicity or press. I mean, they're getting a license. I would think maybe their license should be taken away. It will be up to Brendan Carr. I think Brendan Carr is outstanding. He's a patriot. He loves our country.

And he's a tough guy. So we'll have to see. But when you think about this, 97% of the stories are opposed to me. And yet I win easily the election. It's pretty amazing when you think of it. Yeah, but the opinion polls are, Mr. President, with all due respect, the opinion polls are not there to dictate the news. coverage of you.

And yeah, most of these news networks are not supportive of you. But that doesn't say that some problem they bring up might not be true. And by the way, the other thing I wanted to make sure, and I don't know, maybe the president understood this,

TV networks, radio networks, they don't have broadcast licenses. They don't. Their affiliates do. That's where the mob boss from the federal government in the FCC is able to to muscle them in. ABC does not have a, does not a license to be a network. Fox News does not need a license to be a network.

It's only the affiliates, the radio stations, the television stations, cable systems, no, just the broadcast. That's the only thing the FCC has sway over broadcast. And that, but still, it's bad optimism. for someone who campaigned on free speech and not having the government go after him. You know, we're not going to be like them. We're going to get rid of the censorship. The marketplace has been working.

Oh, by the way, you know, pouring some more fuel on this fire, there is more news. Brendan Carr telling Scott Jennings the other day that ABC's The View could be investigated for breaking broadcasting rules. Now, if they really did break the broadcast rules, I was supposed that could be. But he said yesterday he believed it would be worthwhile to investigate whether ABC's daytime talk show, The View is violating broadcast rules. He argued on Scott Jennings that it could be violating the equal time rule,

which requires broadcasters to provide equal opportunity to all political candidates except for a bona fide news show. Potentially, I would assume that you could make the argument that the view is a bona fide news show. that the view is a bona fide news show but i'm not so sure about that car said all right brandon like i said that is one of the nastiest worst shows on the air okay i just don't know do you really want to go there do you really want to go there as as much as that show irritates me as a free speech advocate i have to say no leave it alone That's my opinion.

Maybe we talk about that off and on here this morning, but I think the Trump administration is putting out some treading into some waters which have bad optics when it comes to free speech when you're doing this right now. Okay. And all sorts of, all sorts of tyranny can come through good intentions. Just saying. This is the Bill Meyer show and you're on KMED. Stephen Westfall Roofing is growing.

Now, pre-dating and cooling solutions. Visit myadmastair.com for details. The Bill Myers Show on 1063, KMED. 639, Friday morning, September 19th. Beautiful day here. Yet, I'm not looking so beautiful with what happens in our public schools. We've been talking about that a lot here in Oregon. And joining me right now is Kendall Teets.

She's investigative reporter for defending education, defending education. Kendall, welcome to the show. Good to have you on. Thank you for having me. Kendall, here in the state of Oregon, me being a guy of the right, I make no bones about it, that I've not been real pleased by the product of the K through 12 and, frankly, even the university system, what's been coming out, that so much of what is done seems to be about creating activists and mostly creating left-wing activists, and I didn't really think that was part of the role of education.

It wasn't what I experienced back in my day. and you wrote a new op-ed in the Daily Wire about this. And I was wondering if you could break it down what you were thinking as you were, you know, digging into the subject about, you know, how can we get education without just being turned into throat-punching Antifa activists by the time you get out. Now, I might be exaggerating a little bit, but sometimes it feels that way. What do you see? Yeah, so absolutely. I looked at about six or no, five different conferences that went on. in the summer months, this summer in the past year, even some upcoming conferences.

But it's usually around the summertime that a lot of these teachers and educators, administrators, flock to these conferences. And, you know, we've seen an abysmal test scores in reading comprehension and math proficiency. So you would think that these events would be about sharpening the instructional skills of teachers to help them with helping students succeed. but no. We looked, our analysis of the programming shows that, you know, what dominates these conferences are themes like race, social justice, gender, activism, and equity. You got the teachers unions, like the National Education Association, the American Federation of Teachers.

I mean, people might be less surprised to hear that they are extremely, extremely progressive, but you even have groups like the National Council of Teachers of Mathematics, where they're They are teaching students that, you know, math is rooted in white supremacy. So, you know, when you're teaching that in math, I think that, you know, we've really kind of lost the plot. So even though there's all this talk about reforming government education and stripping out the DEI kind of programs and the race and gender, the social justice, over the summer, the teachers in the system, many of them go to these conferences and it's doubling down on the agenda? Is that where my hair in here? Really? There's double. For sure. For sure. So, you know, I mean, these are not things that are kitchen table issues. I don't think that, you know, parents want their child to be instructed on how to reflect their whiteness in a math class, describing it as a white patriarchal space.

I think that they want their kid to know how to add, divide, multiply, and subtract. So I think that, you know, these are really kind of a progressive lens through which to view education. And a lot of times, like I said, it comes from top down with these organizations that are pushing this agenda. What could be done is the question I would have here, because the long march through the institution since the 1960s appears to have completed and has been quite successful. and we have multiple generations of teachers. Not all, not all, but many coming out drinking and singing from the same Kool-Aid hymnal. No, that's exactly right. I think that, you know, this has been going on for a really long time,

and I think the rhetoric has been ramped up in recent years, I think in the wake of George Floyd after 2020. But I do think that this has, like you said, been going on for a very long time. And the first step is just knowing that it's happening, which is what we've seen in recent years. Parents were alerted to what was going on in their child's school. Yeah, well, in fact, though, I've got to say, Kendall, one of the best things, even though it was horrid and had bad impact on the culture overall,

but one of the best things for education, or at least for parents in education, was realizing how bad it was when they had their kids at school, at home, rather, for schooling, and they're actually seeing the garbage that was being pushed. And they're going, wait a minute. What was this all about? And I think that most parents, even the best-meaning parents, they have this, it was described to me by a former school board member as this image of, oh, it's the friendly yellow school bus culture, right? You know, that kind of thing? Right.

And it's like there may be bad stuff going on in the inner city schools, but it's not happening in my nice suburban southern Oregon home. You know, that's not happening, right? Right, right, which is unfortunately not true. I think that oftentimes it's sometimes the most affluent areas that are, you know, teaching kids that their whiteness, they need to confront the oppressive forces of whiteness and math and dismantle inequitable practices in the classroom. So I think that this is something that, just to go back to your question about what can be done, I think it's knowing what's going on in your child's school. Being aware of your rights as a parent and what you're allowed to know, what's publicly available, your right to look at the curriculum, potentially opt your child out if there's something that you don't want them to be exposed to. These are federal laws that are in place, and a lot of people don't know about. But there are, you know, instances where you can really take charge and you really have to be your own advocate. Boy, I hope you're right about this.

here in the state of Oregon, I don't know. Have you ever actually taken a look at what goes on in the state of Oregon, Kendall? Well, yes. I do know that the state of Oregon is very progressive as a whole. Yeah, and it's pretty much doubled down. And we have good people that try to go in and be school board members because we're always told, hey, go get on the school board, and we're going to really get things fixed.

This is what, and then you get all these type A people that want to get something done, they get on the school board, and then they find out that so much of what used to be controlled by school boards has been stripped away, really, and it's about rubber stamping the policies of the Oregon Department of Education. There's so much control state top down now in curriculum and all the rest of it. It's been a failure, of course. Oregon is pretty much at the bottom of the barrel when it comes to K through 12 achievement. I mean, I think we're above Puerto Rico, which is a pretty low bar. But, you know, that's where we find ourselves. So you've got a state like that. How do you do it? How do you grind into that

that kind of a mess? Yeah, I think that you've just, like I said, being your own advocate, knowing what's going on, especially in a state like Oregon, where you can't, you cannot assume that teachers are, you know, not progressive ideologues, and they're not teaching this type of thing. You know, that said, we see this in all states, red states, whatnot. It does seem to be a common thread that, you know, teachers do have this left-leaning bent. And even if they don't, oftentimes they're under the thumb of a teachers union where they feel may be forced or there's an environment where they can't speak out if they do disagree with something or they might potentially be punished. So it's a difficult landscape for teachers. for sure. Kendall, you were talking about these get-togethers or these training conferences.

And you know, and you'll hear about this, that you'll see that the teachers unions end up negotiating and saying, oh, yeah, and we want so much money for going to conferences and things like that. You'll see that kind of stuff into the conferences or into the contracts. And so this is generally what they're doing. They're not trying to get more. I just want to make sure that we take away. We're not getting more achievement or how to teach mathematics as an example more effectively. It's why mathematics getting the right answer is white supremacy. I mean, to

me, that's chilling when you hear that. And God help us if we end up having bridges built by people who think that one plus one equals you're racist, okay? Because what is that portend then for the competency

of what they supposedly want to have as a high-tech society? What do you think about that? No, it's exactly right. I mean, I think that We've got, despite $190 billion spent in federal COVID-19 relief funds, the data indicates that we have a failing K to 12 education system nationwide. And this is something that we really just, we're kind of a broken record about it, but we have to get back to the basics.

You have to be teaching kids. What's important? What's important is reading, writing, and math, math skills. so that we do have people who can competently build bridges to your point. How much do you think it will take since it took us decades to get here? How long do you think we have to be able to turn this around? Oh, gosh. I can't begin to even put a number on it, but I do think that we've made incredible strides

even in the past two years with, you know, parents getting involved. There's a lot more attention on school boards and the power they have and, you know, the public is ability to come and speak publicly and weigh in on decisions. So we've made incredible strides, but, you know, our work's not done. I think that there's definitely still quite more to do as far as, you know, making sure that we do continue to advocate for policies and honestly just a teaching method, I guess you could say, that doesn't include all of this stuff. Um, it just, when, when the scores are what they are now, the focus should not be race, social justice, gender activism, and equity.

We're not trying to raise activists. We're just trying to raise good citizens who can, um, go out into the world and be successful in a job. And also just be competent. All right. Can we be competent? I mean, just so we're looking for some competency there here. Um, yeah, what has, um, what has, the exact same time. And yet here is what the reaction has been. Many folks from the conservative or people of faith, many have looked at the K-12 government education system and seen it really lacking. And they're saying, hey, I have to get my kid out of this and they'll do whatever it takes to, you know, get them out, whether they get them in a parochial education or a good private school, classical education. They do homeschooling.

I see all of these sort of things. the challenge then is that that may leave people who are not really as caring or don't or aren't as aware as much of the problem in there and the right or the conservatives are kind of pulling out of it and if we completely pull out of it we're probably not as interested in reforming it but if we leave our kids in it then we're guaranteeing their failure in the future so is boy how do you how do you handle that because you you can see that's what's been going on. Conservatives pulling their kids out, and then it's kind of like, hey, nothing we can do about the public education. I've been kind of defeated about that before.

So you think I'm right or wrong about that? That there's not much we can do to change that. It's a fair point. I think that, you know, there's definitely some of that, and I think that, you know, if that's what you want to do, that's completely your prerogative. Take your kids to schools where, you know, they're teaching what you want, and, you know, that's ultimately a winning tax. I think that there are a lot of people who are still very, very, very committed to the public school system and making sure that they can, you know, reform it in a way that more aligns with these ideas. So I haven't lost all hope. I think that, you know, there's still a lot, a lot of focus on the public school system. I do think that it's the unions that tend to cause that gridlock.

Yeah, I have feeling right about that. candle teeds once again from defending education defending ed.org but you know it's uh you know you have 10% of parents that keep their kids out of the public system maybe oh you know on the high side that means 90% of the kids are uh are really going into that school to activism pipeline huh that's something that's where that's what we're talking about literally and it's a great piece i will link to that on daily caller but better yet go to defending ed.org and read more about it but the interesting op-ed that you put up there about this it is an issue and I don't know there's a part of me that thought okay if you want to save your kids right

now okay get them out and come up with a different way of educating them but if you want to save the future kids then you still have to reform public education maybe that's the way to look at it yes and I think that you know I've seen plenty of that even in my own life it's like okay, I still, not even specific to me, but the people I work with, maybe their kids don't go to these schools that we're, you know, covering and writing about, but this is really something that is an important issue to them, and they're still going to continue to advocate for that, because ultimately these are taxpayer dollars that are going towards our public schools, so everybody really kind of has a stake in the fight.

All right. Kendall, great talking with you this morning. Thank you so much for the work over at defending Ed. Okay? Thank you. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. 653 at KMED, 993 KBXG, 7705633. And you're on the Bill Meyer show. Oregon Truck and Auto Authority is the Rogue Valley spray. That's pound 250. Microw. Welcome to the Bill Meyer show on 1063 KMED. Give Bill a call at 541-770 5633. That's 770 KMED. Ah, I'd like to get to know you. What an interesting time back there in the late 60s. I was a little kid when that song came out.

I remember Rush used to play this as a bumper song too. That's why I added it to my rotation. And I'd like to get to know you. Okay, all right. And, you know, we were talking about, you know, men and women and family formation and love and this and then the other. And not how many genders you claim. You bet you what it must be like for young people. I know my son dealt with that.

Seriously, my son dealt with that a while back. I mentioned this before, but I just do it briefly in which she was dating a woman for a number of years. And then all of a sudden she came back and wanted to be referred to as a they. And she and her screaming harpies, her friends, would scream at will every time that he didn't use they to refer to his, well, former girlfriend. And then Will who was saying, gosh, you know, I really love her. And I said, Will, sorry, she's broken and you have dodged a bullet. I never had to deal with something like that.

Because people that were calling themselves, they, we usually sent them to the psychiatrist and we were, you know, multiple personality disorder. We looked at them rightly as mentally ill broken people. Just saying, but let me go to the phones here. Steve's in Sunny Valley. Hello, Steve. Welcome. Good to have you on.

Good morning. Morning. Your last guest brought up some good points. I would like to add one thing, and that is that COVID was a litmus test for the left, and they got rid of conservatives in public education. That has not helped then when it comes time to try to reform public education. No, it hasn't. And there's a whole lot of money to be made in producing and selling curriculum.

So there's going to be a new farther-left curriculum come out year after year after year. when I was just out of college, my degree was in communications and journalism and political science, but I went to work as a nationalist at a science camp with an emergency teaching credential. And I was part of Bill Clinton's adopt program, AmeriCorps program, selling the lie of the Adopt the Watershed Project. And so I know it from the inside now. Yeah. But what I called about was, just like Harry Reid broke the Senate when he no longer required 60 votes for a judge, Clinton kind of broke it when he went after Rush Limbaugh.

They tried to shut him down completely. I remember it well. Yeah. Yeah. So we're supposed to be better than them by not doing tit-for-tat? I don't think that's worked very well. Are we guilty of going tit-for-tat when I say we? I'm speaking of the Trump administration.

Oh, man, Pam Bondi needs to get off Fox and keep her mouth shut. What she said about hate speech was just stupid. Just stupid. It's something I could have heard out of the Obama or Biden administration. administration. We've heard the same sort of thing. Right. Just because, you know, the pendulum has swung the other direction doesn't mean we have to keep doing the same tyrannical, tyrannical stuff. Do you think it's good that President Trump is mentioning, like I, in that soundbite I was playing,

he was riffing with reporters the other day, about pulling licenses? Well, that's the exact same threat that Clinton used. So that's just tit for tat. and they started it. But, you know, if an eye for an eye, everybody just ends up blind. Somebody has got to find a better way to even things out without putting their thumb on the scale. Because right now, the thumb has been on the left scale for so long. There needs to be some writing, but no, going after speech is not the right way to do it. All right.

Steve, I appreciate your call. Thanks for checking in. also having been inside the belly, as you do so aptly described, they're okay. Let me go to Tom. Hey, Tom. How are you? Welcome. Good morning, Bill.

Yeah. And to Steve and both you and Steve, I believe that the right should take the high road regards to free speech. I'm calling to follow up on your guest that you had this morning and Rob Schlafter yesterday about Oregon education. Rob wrote a great piece called How Oregon Education Went Woke. And that information is available at his website, which I'll repeat. It's Oregon ed. Yeah. Again, Oregon ed.

Dot info. And the part, I just wanted to interject here, one of the things I've enjoyed most about talking with him, with Rob Schlaffer, is that he is that he is, not a conservative. He is not a political conservative, you know, as I, as I am, right. And yet, we both see the problem. Now, he's not a hard progressive either. You know, he's a, you know, he's a reasonable individual and we can have honest disagreements about something. I miss that. I can't tell you how much I miss that at times, Tom. Really? Oh, oh, absolutely. But I wanted to, you know, this whole thing about having to Oregon education, it's not just something that just, uh, Willie Neely out in the Aether's and so forth.

In this article, he talks about House Bill 2845 ethnic study standards. And I'll just read part of one sentence because it's a long sentence, but teaching and learning experience that's centered on understanding whiteness, urocentricity, white privilege, white fragility, white dominance, and then conflict to state inflicted violence and everything in between gender identity, et cetera, et cetera. So that, you know, it's written in documents about what's happened with Oregon education. It's just, it's not a few people with a few bad ideas. Now, it's controlling authority. It's the controlling authority and the ethos, the actual ethics within the Oregon Education,

Department of Education, right? Yeah, and a deep problem I see is it's not just the students that are brainwashed, it's the teachers teaching them. This has gone on long enough that the teachers themselves are very corrupted, and they don't even know it, they don't see it, and so forth. So it's like, you know, hate America, hate everything that's freedom and things we talk about, free speech, the Bill of Rights, and so forth. It's hate, hate, hate, hate. And they're taught, these are taught by hateful teachers to students to teach them how to hate, hate America and everything about it. And, you know, I have my own concerns about our history and so forth. There are things that America's not shiny and white.

There's a lot of gray there and black. But you see, that's the history of humanity itself, you know. It certainly is. We have some great things that have been done. We have some not-so-great things that have been done. and yet we shouldn't be throwing out the great things in order to just exclusively teach the bad things. That's all I'm doing.

So well said, Bill. Absolutely, yes. Appreciate the call, and always thoughtfulness from the early morning riders' risers club. Tom is the premier member, okay? Take care, Tom. Be well. Thank you. This is KMED and KMED HD-1 Eagle Point Medford, KBXG, Grants Pass.

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