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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Bill Meyer Show podcast is sponsored by Klausur drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausor drilling.com. Here's Bill Meyer. Hey, it's great having you here this Monday, September 22nd. Cool start. 51, 52 degrees on our way, though, to in the mid-up ratings. I know it's the first day of fall, but it's certainly, like Bobby Jay was saying over at NBC5,
Starting point is 00:00:26 going to feel more like summer for the next few days. In fact, low to mid-90s, Tuesday, Wednesday, and then we're kind of settling back into a bit of fall. But, yeah, it doesn't appear that the switch has completely flipped over, okay? Hey, to join in, 7705633, you can join the show, 770KMED, email bill at Billmyershow.com. Busy weekend for me ended up watching some of the Charlie Kirk Memorial event yesterday. Not all of it. It was a pretty long deal.
Starting point is 00:00:56 I didn't think it was going to go as long as it did, but it's about five, five and a half hours by the time it all wrapped up with President Trump as the finale, of course. And it was going on before that and haven't heard anything about the memorial ride for Charlie. I'm sure some people will call and tell us how that went that it was happening yesterday afternoon. But, yeah, I've watched a lot of that, did stuff around the house, trying to get things ready, taking care of mom, doing the other things that. that people have to do. And, of course, drinking coffee, which, I don't know if you've noticed, but coffee has about doubled in price lately. Is it just me?
Starting point is 00:01:37 And I do honestly think that's the tariffs, but maybe we can talk about that another time, okay? The Charlie Kirk Memorial, just absolutely massive. In fact, there are reports here, New York Post reporting this morning, that they're thinking that they were over, when you add everybody up over two. 200,000 attending in Arizona. State Farm seats up to 73,000. They're saying Desert Diamond Arena sets some 17,000. That also filled to capacity.
Starting point is 00:02:10 Just tens of thousands couldn't make it inside, so they were outside there too. And so, yeah, New York Post says some 200,000 people turned out to honor Charlie Kirk on Sunday, including President Trump, who called the Slane Turning Point USA founder, a patriot whose heart still had. so much to give, to give, rather. I think my favorite, my favorite audio clip, and Gus started, I wasn't able to find it, but it was one of the early ones. Dr. Arne from Hilldale, Hillsdale College was talking about Charlie and getting to the heart of it and how he had gone through all of his courses, all of his online courses.
Starting point is 00:02:52 and it was quite a little insight to Charlie as a person. But the main event, of course, naturally Erica Kirk talking, and she actually forgave the killer. He wanted to save young men, just like the one who took his life. That young man, That young man, on the cross, our Savior said, Father, forgive them, for they not know what they do.
Starting point is 00:03:52 that man that young man I forgive him very heartfelt of course as you can imagine very emotional time for the crowd and everybody else watching and then Marco Rubio who knew
Starting point is 00:04:18 Marco Rubio, Secretary of State three or four other jobs too for that matter too preach it brother look i think he had an tremendous impact on young americans in general i think he had a very special and direct impact on young men in this country that's one of the greatest developments i've seen it's been very positive i think we remember him for that i think we remember him for constantly saying you want to live a productive life get married start a family love your country these are a powerful message But I hope many who are watching, I imagine there are people watching here tonight that didn't know much about Charlie Kirk until 11 days ago.
Starting point is 00:05:00 Maybe they were disengaged from politics, maybe they were partially engaged. I hope one of the things they take from this is that the movement Charlie Kirk led and started and gave fuel to was about politics, but not only about politics. It was deeper, it was broader. And I would say that taking the liberty, but I'm confident he would agree, one of the things he wants to be. One of the things he wants us to take away from this, from all of this, is the following. His deep belief that we were all created, every single one of us, before the beginning of time, by the hands of the God of the universe, an all-powerful God, who loved us and created us for the purpose of living with him in eternity.
Starting point is 00:05:41 But then sin entered the world and separated us from our creator. And so God took on the form of a man and came down and lived among us. and he suffered like men and he died like a man but on the third day he rose unlike any mortal man and then and to prove any doubt or wrong
Starting point is 00:06:05 he ate with his disciples so they could see and they touched his wounds he didn't rise as a ghost or as a spirit but his flesh and then he rose to the heaven but he promised he would return and he will and when he returns because he took on that death, because he carried that cross, we were freed from the sin
Starting point is 00:06:24 that separated us from him. And when he returns, there will be a new heaven and a new earth, and we will all be together. And we are going to have a great reunion there again with Charlie and all the people we love. Thank you and God bless you. Like I said, Marco, preach it brother, rather. Christian messaging, suffusing a lot of the people who were speaking at Charlie Kirk's Memorial yesterday, no doubt. I certainly understand that. That has the left coming apoplectic. Oh, it is the rise.
Starting point is 00:06:56 It is the rise of the Christian right nationalist. Yeah, you're going to be hearing a lot of that over the next few days, I'm sure we're here, too. Yeah, the people who are saying, yeah, we forgive the killer. Okay. President Trump spoke 45 minutes. 45 minutes, of course, he's always great on the stump. sometimes he would veer off a little bit in my opinion into almost like forgetting that it's a memorial that it's okay make america great that's great done but you know it is a memorial service but still he kept it on track and did a good job as always but i think uh his takeaway is is worth noting every single american should take a long hard look at the twisted soul and dark spirit of anyone who would want to kill a young man as good as Charlie, to kill anybody, but to kill a man like this, he didn't deserve this.
Starting point is 00:07:49 He didn't deserve this. Our country didn't deserve this. And anyone who would make excuses for it are just out of their mind. Charlie's murder was not just an attack on one man or one movement. It was an attack on our entire nation. That was a horrible attack on the United States of America. It was an assault on our most sacred liberties and God-given rights. The gun was pointed at him, but the bullet was aimed at all of us.
Starting point is 00:08:21 That bullet was aimed at every one of us. Indeed, Charlie was killed for expressing the very ideas that virtually everyone in this arena and most other places throughout our country deeply believed in. But the assassin failed in his quest because Charlie's message has not been silenced it now is bigger and better and stronger than ever before, and it's not even close. President Trump yesterday at the Charlie Kirk Memorial. Great job. 45 minutes, he ended up talking.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Speaking of the bullet pointed at all of us, NBC reporting over the weekend, in a vote that divided Democrats, the House on Friday passed a resolution honoring slaying conservative activist Charlie Kirk and rejecting the political violence of recent years. Now, it was a non-binding resolution. In other words, rejecting political violence honoring Charlie Kirk, the vote was 310 to 58. 95 Democrats joining all 215 Republicans in voting yes on the non-binding resolution.
Starting point is 00:09:29 The 58 no votes all came from Democrats, mostly members of the Congressional Black and Hispanic caucuses. And another 38 Democrats voted present. Another 22 Democrats did not vote. Missouri Senator Eric Schmidt says, Let this sink in, all of it. The majority of Democrats refused to condemn a political assassination. Left-wing extremism is not just a friend.
Starting point is 00:09:56 It now appears to, a fringe, rather, it now appears to control a significant part of the mainstream Democratic Party. It's a sobering thought for this morning, for sure. 21 minutes after 6. There are other news headlines to talk about here, too. If you can join in 7705633-770 KMED. This is the Bill Meyer's show on KMED. Every week I get Joel Skousin's World Affairs Brief,
Starting point is 00:10:24 and there was a lot of it this week, of course, going with the Charlie Kirk, the Charlie Kirk rather, murder investigation. And his email box, like my email box, has been filling up with all sorts of alternative theories and a lot of people asking questions. And one of the biggest, and this is one that Joel brought up here, although there is a tremendous amount of incriminating evidence in this case against Robinson as the shooter, such as the FBI saying they have fingerprints, pictures, and videos,
Starting point is 00:10:55 as well as DNA evidence on the towel that was wrapped around the Mouser hunting rifle, there are still a lot of holes in this investigation. And this has been the biggest one that was kind of making me wonder what was going on here. The first problem is that law enforcement has yet to say they have found the fatal bullet. The crime scene was quickly contaminated by the tear down of the sunshade and barriers that were around Kirk. So it's doubtful anything will be found if it wasn't previously. This has led to a lot of conspiratorial conjecture about Robinson being a patsy to cover for another shooter. In the order to tie the rifle that Robinson used to the killing of Kirk, which they say contains his fingerprint on the trigger,
Starting point is 00:11:38 the FBI needs to match the rifling marks on the bullet with the other bullet that lab fires from the Mouser rifle in custody. The rifling marks from inside of the barrel that transferred to the outside of the bullet should match both bullets. That's what you would think. But then for the last couple of weeks or so, last 10, 11 days is that there was no bullet. But then this story pops up on Fox News over the weekend on Fox News. Turning Point USA spokesman Andrew Colvette on Saturday saying that Charlie Kirk surgeon called it an absolute miracle that the bullet that killed him didn't exit his body because dozens of people were standing behind him when he was shot. Andrew says, I want to address some of the discussion about the lack of an exit wound with Charlie.
Starting point is 00:12:33 I'm usually not interested in delving into most of this kind of online chatter, the turning point guy says. And I apologize, it's somewhat graphic. But in this case, the fact that there wasn't an exit wound is probably another miracle. And I want people to know. Now, Colvette is the executive producer of the Charlie Kirk show. He ended up putting this on a post on X. He said he had just spoken with Kirk's surgeon who told him the bullet absolutely should have gone through, which is very normal for a high-powered, high-velocity round.
Starting point is 00:13:06 I've seen wounds from this caliber many times. By the way, it's a 30-od-6 where you, if you're a gun person, 30-odd-6, pretty healthy round, okay? We pretty much know that. High-powered, high-velocity round, and I've seen wounds from this caliber many times, and they always just go through everything. this would have taken a moose or two down or an elk. And Charlie Kirk, Ally Colvitt, said that his doctor called it an absolute miracle that the bullet didn't exit his body because dozens of people were standing behind him when he was shot.
Starting point is 00:13:41 And he said that when he told the doctor that dozens of staff students and guests have been standing behind the turning point founder, the surgeon replied absolute miracle. Someone else didn't get killed. the doctor added that Kirk's bone was so healthy and the density is so impressive that he's like a man of steel should have just gone through and through it likely would have killed those standing behind him so this was not now if we're just taking this second hand there has been no autopsy at this point released of Charlie Kerr one has been performed but nothing has been released at this point I would imagine some of this has to do with You know, getting into building an airtight legal case and then assuming that what this surgeon said to the turning point person is correct, it appears that there is a bullet. And if there is a bullet, then it could be matched to the rifling of the Mouser, the 30-od six Mouser. So this is the first time we've heard something like that. And I don't know.
Starting point is 00:14:48 it does well if it hit bone then it must have been you know well must have been the spine that's the only thing that that makes sense now there are other people that were making the claim and other experts ballistic experts have making me making the claim that uh the round struck charlie's charlie's ballistic vest that he was wearing underneath a t-shirt apparently he was wearing one and then ricocheted up into the throat maybe that is something to which uh which had to do with the round not passing through. Sorry to get graphing on this, but, you know, normally the throat is not something which is real tough that is going to stop around.
Starting point is 00:15:32 And, you know, if you saw the video, you saw the exploding geyser of blood, it was just horrifying, right? It was horrifying. And I, and it's true, if there had been an exit wound, we would have seen a lot more gore on that particular video. Now, remember, this is just being reported by a turning point USA person who talked to the surgeon. But if a doctor is saying that there was a round in there, it could seem to lend some credence then to the round striking the ballistic vest and ricocheting up into his throat and then causing the damage. and another way I'm looking at that is that the ballistic vest could have absorbed some of the massive energy,
Starting point is 00:16:18 the shock energy coming from the bullet, and then that's why it didn't end up going through Charlie Kirk's throat. Now, once again, this is just what I've reported, what other people are saying. This is nothing official, but that might go a long way to explain some of the other claims. There are other people that are investigating. I know the FBI is also looking into other claims that, oh, there are people making hand gestures look like they're sending, sending hand messages like they're going to tell the shooter to do something.
Starting point is 00:16:50 Yeah, the FBI's looking into this stuff, a Daily Mail reporting that, as if it is all true. The other part of this, though, is that I don't think anybody standing next to Charlie Kirk is going to be giving hand messages to go ahead, send the bullet flying. To me, that strikes me as nonsense. Other people are saying, oh, it was a palm gun.
Starting point is 00:17:09 And there was a palm gun. That's why, you know, we weren't seeing a worse situation than they were. We would need some pretty good evidence, pretty good evidence. So at this point, I am guardedly going with what we think we saw. In other words, Occam's Razor. We're going to go with the simplest until other evidence, unless other evidence, big evidence, ends up coming forward. And I have to tell you by the email, watch this video, watch this expert. and, well, if they have a bullet, if they really have a bullet, that will probably settle it.
Starting point is 00:17:48 We'll see. 7705-633. Let me go to line one. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Good morning, Bill, Tom, here. Hey, Tom. How you doing?
Starting point is 00:17:57 All right. You know, I've seen some of those videos, too. There's about, I'm losing track now, but there's about four or five different scenarios for Charlie's assassination. Palm Gun is one of the latest ones. You can watch a nine-second clip at rents.com. Yeah, Jeff Rance ended up bringing that forward quite early. Yeah. Yeah, so that's pretty interesting.
Starting point is 00:18:23 Again, I can't say anything. But stepping back a bit, you know, it looks like Charlie at the, it lasts, since this summer was really questioning a lot of the United States. and Trump's foreign policy of supporting war. And he, apparently some of his financiers really came down really hard on him. And I keep thinking of the same thing happened to Martin Luther King. In the last year of his life, he really recognized that the military industrial complex was fueling Vietnam. And it was, and he attributed to a very deep spiritual wasteland what was going on in American.
Starting point is 00:19:13 And I think Charlie had the same thing. He was really trying to speak to the religious spiritual aspect of America. Both of them were, and they both got killed for it. Well, the other big thing, which has also been driving a lot of conjecture on this, too, is that Netanyahu, Bibi Netanyahu ended up offering quite a bit of money to Turning Point USA that he ended up turning down, but is essentially get back on the Zionist reservation where a lot of, you know, a lot of conservative folks lie. You know, and I get that.
Starting point is 00:19:48 You know, we're all, it's a free country. But Charlie was asking questions about the Israeli Gaza situation, asking questions. He was kind of going down that Tucker Carlson. road. He was starting to go and, you know, tiptoe in that direction. And so then he ends up, you know, dying in an assassination and a murder plot, you know, about a month, month and a half later. And a lot of people, of course, instantly jumping onto Israel did it, you know, that sort of thing. You know, you'd have to have, there needs to be pretty darn good evidence if you're going to make those kind of claims. That's all I would say. I would be very careful. Yeah, right. We're very much
Starting point is 00:20:24 a speculative stage here and so forth. And it's with AI and all the belt-in line going by the media, it's very difficult to sort out now reality from falsehood. And I would also add that, you know, videos can be doctored with AI tools, too. And so you hate to be this way, but, you know, probably unless you saw it with yourself right in front of you, it's like, can we trust any video, I guess, and video and video and picture evidence. these days. That's a sad place to be, but that is the reality of an AI world now that can be so easily doctored at the, well, after the fact, really, or sometimes before. Yeah, my operating principle right now, it's been this way for years. My assumption, as anything comes out of the government media, and they're one and the same, as far as I'm concerned,
Starting point is 00:21:23 and that rolls out there. I just assume that it's not true until proven otherwise, and it may take a long time for that, but I accept nothing that rolls out of the government official mouth or the media mouth, and I think you just have to have that. And when I saw, for me, my wake-up call was seeing the lives of the Vietnam War. So since that time, I've never trusted the government, and I well the lines got much more sophisticated since those days yeah they certainly have and so but
Starting point is 00:21:59 I think we we all need to back up a bit and just be careful about it because it can be deadly you know when they came out with COVID my my approach was it's probably alive but hold back and and prove that's what the case was yep ended up being proven right in the end that's for sure Tom, appreciate the call, as always. It is 635 at KUED, 993 KBXG. We'll catch up all the rest of the news, too, on the Bill Meyers show. AI can't get your cell phone up and running. A chatbot can't install your new car battery,
Starting point is 00:22:34 and no streaming tutorial can shoot the breeze like your goat. It's your vehicle, but take care of you. You're hearing the Bill Myers Show on 1063 KMED. 639. Tommy Aiello joins me, Senior Director of Government Affairs for National Taxpayers' Union. A bit of a pallet cleanser this morning here, Tommy. We were talking about the Charlie Clerk situation, but we've got to kind of focus on some of the big things going on, too, behind the scenes, and that would be Obamacare?
Starting point is 00:23:03 The expansion for Obamacare is finally over? I mean, what is going on? Because this is something that I thought was just going to just grow and grow and grow and finally consume every other penny besides the national debt interest. but I was wondering if you could break down what is going on this morning, huh? Yeah, good morning. Thanks for having me. So, as you alluded to, part of Obamacare expires at the end of this year, at the end of 2025. That's a really good thing.
Starting point is 00:23:33 Now, what expires is something called the enhanced premium tax credit? Essentially, what Obamacare did, the many bad things it did, one really bad thing it did, is it provided a tax credit for people going through the Obamacare exchanges, and they were able to essentially completely write off most of their premiums, which is essentially a slush fund for the insurance lobby. And what Democrats did in 2021 is they expanded that subsidy for people, and it's an expensive subsidy. It costs about $40 billion a year. It's a really expensive policy. Yeah, real money.
Starting point is 00:24:10 Yeah, it's real money. And expires at the end of this year. there's talk right now that they will try and extend it permanently. Now, what Democrats did in 2021, it was supposed to be a temporary thing for COVID. We need to give more people insurance. Oh, come on. Hey, Tommy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:27 You know what happens when anybody in Washington, D.C. says this is going to be a temporary subsidies to the insurance, right? Everybody knows. It becomes permanent. Yeah, it's a really bad thing. And they say that there's no such thing as a temporary. program in Washington. That's when it becomes permanent. So look, the enhanced premium tax credit, like I said, it's extremely expensive. It's riddled with fraud. 26% of the money that goes to
Starting point is 00:24:55 the premium tax credit is improper payments. So think about that. We know that this policy is expensive. We know that it's riddled with fraud. So what may Republicans do? Let's just extend it permanently. And it's just not bad in I. It's a really bad policy. And I'm really hopeful Republicans will hold the line at the end of the year, but I'm really not confident they're going to do it. Well, the reason I bring this up here about forever is, is this the, and I'm sorry, it's kind of wonky, but this is important, okay? Right now we have Democrats in the state of Oregon that are making hay and complaining and complaining about cuts to Medicaid.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Now, Medicaid here in Oregon is called the Oregon Health Plan, all right, and that families and immigrants and all sorts of people are not going to have their health care. Does this tax credit have anything to do with those claims right now, or is that a different pile of crazy big money? It's a separate pile of crazy big money. This is for people that get their health care through the Obamacare exchanges. So it's just a little different. Now, there was a CBO, a Congressional Budget Office study that came out on Thursday of last week, actually.
Starting point is 00:26:07 And they said, if these subsidies go away, you know, 3.8 million people are going to lose health care. And it's just such a misleading headline because, yes, if you remove the subsidy, sure, you know, in the short term, 3.8 million people might have to find different health care, right? They're not losing health care permanently. It's like they will never be able to have health care again. They can simply go to the private market, go get to find the job that has employees-sponsored health care. There's other ways to get around this problem. and when you look at it, it costs $350 billion, and when you see how many people actually take advantage of it, it's about $9,200 per enrollee per year. It's $92,000 per enrollee over the
Starting point is 00:26:49 course of 10 years. It's ridiculously expensive. And unfortunately, in this, you know, $37 trillion debt role that we live in with $2 trillion annual deficits, we need to make tough choices. And really, we just don't think we should continue to subsidize Obamacare COVID-era policies. that makes no sense. Okay, now I understand that part of it, but isn't the real heart of the matter, I mean, is there truly, you know, reasonably priced employee, well, is there reasonably priced care available that is not subsidized by an employer? I have not, I have not noted that being available.
Starting point is 00:27:29 In fact, everything seems to be, you know, well, you know, you got $12,000 a year. We can get you insurance in the state of. Oregon. Now, maybe Oregon's different, and I might be exaggerating a little bit, but it does seem that no matter where you go, if you're a member of the working poor, it's pretty tough, arguably, isn't it? It is. And, you know, I think that's sort of where Republicans lose the argument is, you know, we want more people to have health care, not less. We want affordable health care. But I think if you look at the data since the Affordable Care Act was passed in 2010, the health care hasn't gotten any less, any more affordable. It's gotten so much less of
Starting point is 00:28:05 affordable for everybody. And I think when we see what solutions do we need to bring down the cost of health care is we need to get government out of the way. Right now, we live in a quasi-system where you have the private sector and the federal government with all these subsidies and mandates. It just, it really doesn't work. So, you know, I know Democrats would never come to the table to negotiate with how do we repeal and replace Obamacare with the system that works. But I think in the short term, we need to start to unwind Obamacare where we can. And this is one example of it, the enhanced premium tax credits. Now, I think, you know, you raise a really important point is, you know, health care
Starting point is 00:28:42 on employee-sponsored health care is not the most affordable thing. And I agree. So I think we do need to get to a system where, you know, government takes a step back. We let the private market step in a little bit more because their hands have been tied for the past 15 years. And I think we can reduce health care premiums that way. or even if we can't reduce it, slow how much growth there is every year because it's just so unaffordable.
Starting point is 00:29:08 Yeah, well, I'll give you that much, that even if you can stanch some of the bleeding here, that would be real helpful. But the challenge, I think, with Obamacare is that essentially Obamacare transformed everything into it, and I'm no expert on this, but I have gone through it trying to purchase coverage for family members in the past and this and that and the other. but you know it's like everything is very expensive as far as the coverage goes because everything is almost prepaid you know you get so many things that they say are free free this free that free everything else well no it's not free it just ends up getting rolled into the
Starting point is 00:29:46 incredibly high cost of the premium to start with and so it's almost like you're prepaying health care for healthy people and the people who are relatively healthy are kind of screwed because they're still paying a high premium, but they're not really getting anything for it, if you want to put it that way, right? Yeah, no, you're exactly right. And, you know, specific to the enhanced premium tax credit is, in 2021, as part of their COVID rescue plan and spending spree,
Starting point is 00:30:12 the Democrats, originally the premium tax credit was just supposed to go to people making 150% of the federal poverty line. Okay, that's the working class poor that you had mentioned, the working class people of America. Right? What Democrats did in 2021 is they said, no, you know, our new basis support isn't in the working class anymore. It's the upper, upper middle class people. So what they did is they expanded the tax credit to include up to people 400% of the poverty line if you have no kids and even more if you do. Right now you have people making money. Okay, no, four times the four times
Starting point is 00:30:48 the poverty level they would give you the tax credit. Wow. That's huge. And that's what's on the shopping block this time. So it's not the full premium tax. credits that's going away at the end of the year. It's just that enhanced subsidy for really wealthy people. Like I said, yes, people making $500,000 a year receiving a subsidy that was meant for working class people. It's just bonkers, and it blows my mind that, you know, we're talking about extending this policy that should not be going to people that make half a million dollars a year. They don't need it. Yeah, I would agree with you on that when you explain it that way. That helps a lot. Well, I know that now, is this something which is going through the House or the Senate right now?
Starting point is 00:31:26 Congressman Cliff Bentz from Oregon, from Southern Oregon, is going to be coming on the show Wednesday morning. And I'd like to maybe ask them a question or two about this. Yeah, it's very much a live-fire exercise. They expire at the end of the year. Right now, Democrats are trying to hit Republicans over the head about this issue because they want it extended. And I think Democrats really see that there's a political expediency with health care topics. Yeah, is this a hill that the Democrats are willing to die on? Is that kind of what you're alluding to, Tommy?
Starting point is 00:31:56 So they're willing to shut down the government if they don't get the subsidy for very wealthy people extended. It is a complete backwards way of viewing this whole thing from their perspective. Okay, well, I'll be interested to hear what Congressman Benz has to say about that this weekend. What would you say is the overall, if you were to count noses on who's in favor of this going away and who's going to, all, we've got to keep this going one way or the other, because after all, it is a government. in, you know, it is a government program, Tommy. It is. I think if you look at Congress, the majority of the Republican conference opposes these subsidies.
Starting point is 00:32:34 And we have to remember, every Republican in the House and Senate voted against this in 2021 and 2022. Unfortunately, Republicans now hold, well, fortunately, Republicans hold the majority in both chambers. I think at the end of the day, the subsidies will be extended because Republicans are so afraid of of you know stepping out on health care issues that it's going to be a political issue for them but i think you know if it's good policy to let it expire the politics will take care of themselves so you know i'm really hopeful republicans will hold the line but you know we need to make sure we hold their feet to the fire and make sure that these obamacare covid era subsidies for wealthy people go away at the end of the year fair enough tom on tommy ayalo once again senior
Starting point is 00:33:18 director of government affairs for national taxpayers union well i'm glad someone one's a union for the taxpayers. I appreciate you being on, Tommy. How can people find out more about this issue? Sure. You can go to our website, NTU.org. We have a full resource kit for people that want to learn more about this issue and other issues that impact taxpayers. And I will ask the Congressman Wednesday about it and what his general impression of is it. Is it something that the Republicans are willing to let die or not? We'll find out. Okay. Get back to you. All right. Thank you, Tommy. Thank you. Pleasure. It's a 10 before 7 on KMED. You're on the Bill Meyers show.
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Starting point is 00:34:12 It's 7705663-770 KMED. Did you watch the Charlie Park Memorial? Any particular impression? I watched about three hours of it. I was kind of diving in. out and doing some other things that needed to be done too. Just, yeah, I'll tell you, I had no idea it was going to be five, six hours, but I've got to tell you, the people that were there, they were lapping up every minute of it.
Starting point is 00:34:37 Some of the other news stories here this morning. Governor Newsom signs legislation barring masks for ice agents over whom he has no control. California became the first state to ban most law enforcement officers, including federal immigration agents, this is from ABC News, by the way, from covering their faces while conducting official business under a bill that was signed Saturday by Governor Gavin Newsom, swiftly denounced by the Trump administration. Ban is a direct response to recent immigration raids in Los Angeles, raids prompting days of protests.
Starting point is 00:35:10 So that is one story here. And speaking of ICE, this was in the Epic Times over the weekend. The city of Portland has announced. that it will issue a land use violation notice against ICE. This is how they're going to go after ICE here in Sanctuary State, Oregon and Sanctuary City, Portland. And they are accusing the agency of holding detainees in a manner that does not comply with the conditions of the site's land use approval. This is a very interesting wrinkle how the power structure in Oregon and especially the gentle, peaceful city. of Portland is going after this.
Starting point is 00:35:54 The quote, Federal government records from a 10-month period show that more than two dozen detention policy violations of the facility's land-use conditions of approval with the city, which does not allow detainees to be kept overnight or held for more than 12 hours. This is what Portland said in a statement last week.
Starting point is 00:36:15 The city said it will issue the notice, which also references what it calls a second violation regarding boarded up windows. Now, so Portland's going after ICE for having boarded up windows. Now, has anybody asked Portland, well, why do you think that ice has boarded up windows,
Starting point is 00:36:36 which, of course, violates their land use code in Portland? Because of the protesting and rock-throwing dirt bags that are surrounding it. Now, how is that? ICE's fault boarding up so in other words Portland I guess figures that you should have
Starting point is 00:36:54 the windows open to vandalism I'll be curious to see where this ends up going long term all right all right all right on the good news KOBI 5 reporting Medford named a top
Starting point is 00:37:10 small town by Sunset magazine the city receiving recognition from sunset in the 2025 sunset travel awards It shares the accolade with Carmel by the Sea, California, and Great Falls, Montana. So we're right up with those three, or those other two, I should say. The article highlighting Medford's vibrant natural scenery, the newly reopened Holly Theater, and the Rhode Valley's iconic wine country, not to mention the weed country, too, for that matter.
Starting point is 00:37:41 And the city's close proximity to the Brit Music and Arts Festival and Crater Lake National Park is also mentioned. so one of the top small town. So we'll take that accolade, all right? Now, that's the good side. Now, on the not so good time, Oregon live reporting, a third of Oregonians say they couldn't cover a $400 emergency. Yeah, that's real. One third of people said that they would have to borrow money
Starting point is 00:38:09 to cover a $400 emergency bill. This is according to a new poll from the Oregon Consumer Justice and the Oregon values in belief, Center. Now, I understand that Oregon Values and Belief Center is usually one of those consensus processes, types of groups that is trying to push a point of view, in my opinion, in the state of Oregon, but that doesn't mean that the polling's wrong. We'll see about that. Yeah. So a third of people in Oregon would have to borrow money to cover 400 bucks, and that's up from 25% of the fall of 2023, but just a down a smidge from 35%.
Starting point is 00:38:47 percent last year but still about a third. Oregon's figure closely mirroring national data collected by the Federal Reserve, which has been tracking the subject for more than a decade. The Fed finds that about 37 percent of people say they couldn't cover a $400 expense. So this is nothing unusual. And that is something. Well, it wouldn't, it would help, though, if Oregon was actually doing something to actually reduce the cost of living. But I swear that Oregon, that Oregon, when you look at the policy when it comes to energy, when it comes to land use, but it comes to the various other rules for food and shelter. Everything seems to be about how much control can we exert over this.
Starting point is 00:39:28 How much more expensive can we make it, especially with energy? We're going to take your relatively inexpensive base load power from years ago and close that down, so no coal. And we don't like hydro power either because fish. And we're going to replace it with intermittent and chaotic. and batteries. In fact, they even talk about what are to be powered by batteries?
Starting point is 00:39:50 No, nothing is powered by batteries. Batteries is just a storage mechanism. You still have to create it. You still have to create the energy. But anyway, oh boy. So there we go. And another story, this one broke over the weekend.
Starting point is 00:40:12 Kids of, I think this was New York Post. was this New York? I think it was in the New York Post. Kids of Oregon Senator Ron Wyden drove assistant to suicide with sexually explicit behavior, homophobic slurs. This according to a lawsuit. The kids of Ron Wyden relentlessly tormented their mother's personal assistant driving him to commit suicide, this according to a lawsuit. Brandon O'Brien, who committed suicide in May, worked for the senator's wife. Nancy Bass-Widen, owner of Manhattan's Famestrand Bookstore from June 2022 to September of 2024
Starting point is 00:40:51 and was frequently tasked with caring for the couple's young kids. This is the couple's young kids, including driving them to school in New York City and watching them during trips to Disney World. Disturbing behavior began in September 2022. Now, this is from the lawsuit, though, okay? the couple's then 10-year-old daughter allegedly exposed himself, or exposed herself rather, to O'Brien, a 10-year-old allegedly making sexually explicit comments
Starting point is 00:41:21 and asking about his intimate life during school drop-offs. O'Brien's husband, so he was a gay man, Thomas Maltizos, alleging in court papers he filed against Bass Wyden and her company Bass Real Estate LLC. But the mother whose family founded the East Village Bookshop allegedly doing nothing about the behavior. So this is just to the beginning. Meanwhile, the Wyden's teenage son berated by O'Brien, rather,
Starting point is 00:41:50 with homophobic slurs such as, well, the F word starts with a F, ends with a T. I guess you can't say that anymore. Only if you're talking about a pile of wood, right, then you can say it. And also calling him zest kitten. Okay. Some of the alleged abuse took place at Disney in front of Maltizos and his mother. The widower claimed, needless to say, they're asking for a lot. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:42:20 Now, the widens say the lawsuit is baseless and deeply misguided and riddled with false accusations. It appears to be a continued effort to deflect attention from O'Brien's own serious misconduct, including a documented pattern of theft. But O'Brien finally quit in frustration. September of 2024, Bass-Widen, filing a report with the NYPD the next day, accusing him of stealing $650,000 in credit cards and other theft. Wow. Okay. So needless to say.
Starting point is 00:42:51 He said, and she said, well, she said, and he said from the grave on a lawsuit. So I have no idea where that's going to go, but I at least wanted you to know that Senator Wyden has a interesting, interesting court case in front of him, apparently. Submitted after seven, hi, KMED, this is Bill. Who's this? Holly Morton, how are you? Holly, how the heck you doing today? Hi.
Starting point is 00:43:17 Welcome. Well, you know, I watched every minute of the Charlie Kirk Memorial, and I was so deeply touched, I couldn't stop watching. I had some cooking to do. I just put a on my computer in the kitchen and watched. Uh-huh. And his wife, who has now become. the CEO of Turning Point is one of the most impressive human beings I've ever listened to.
Starting point is 00:43:42 Absolutely amazing, devout Christian. People did not get the chance to see that they should Google at least that speech, and some of the others. You can catch the clips all over online. It's pretty easy, just to say. I think my favorite, though, my favorite, and it's the one I couldn't find yet for some reason, but it was the one with Larry Arne from Hillsdale. I thought, you know, unlike many of them, he was actually kind of pithy and to the point, and I kind of appreciate that pithy-to-the-the-point approach in talking about the good things that Charlie did.
Starting point is 00:44:18 I think he cut it in about five minutes. Most people were pretty quick. Some people dragged on and on. President Trump had a little trouble with that, I think. I think so. You know, you put a microphone in front of dawn. What can we say, right? You know, there were times that President Trump, I think, forgot that it wasn't a rally.
Starting point is 00:44:35 I think he just is programmed. He gets there in front of the cameras. It's rally time. You know what I mean? There's always a little bit of that with Don, with President Trump. He had that challenge. But overall, for anyone, and people who are teetering on whether to become Christians and that sort of thing, that is something you want to look back through.
Starting point is 00:44:57 It was an absolutely fantastic experience watching. it very touching and i think the most touching thing i've ever seen was when she forgave the killer of her husband as a christian she talked about he was he that was exactly the kind of person that that charlie kirk was trying to save and uh she said and and she so she has forgiven that man he knew not what he did you know we're we're called as christians you know if we are Christian, if you are Christian, to do that, I'm not sure I could do that. And I'm just being honest. I'm not, I know what we're supposed to. I don't know if I could if that happened to my spouse. I know what you're saying. I mean, at the time, I was just barely able to
Starting point is 00:45:50 breathe when she was saying that. It was deeply, deeply touching, but disturbing at the same time because I'm with you, you know, sometimes I just want to reach and rip the guy's heart out and feed it. Yeah, there's that part of me. You just want to go all cling on, right? Like from the old Star Trek character, you know, just, you know, just going to take you down where you stand, you know, that kind of thing. But
Starting point is 00:46:12 well... I mean, he'll get his comeuppance, but I don't know, she cried through the whole thing, but she made it through. Yeah, she did. She did. I appreciate the review. I saw about two thirds of it. I was kind of, you know, diving at it and out in, you know, because unfortunately, I mean, you know what it's like. The tasks of life do not get themselves done on Sunday,
Starting point is 00:46:35 you know, sometimes. I know. You got to do it yourself. Yeah, exactly. Brian gave me a bunch of plum, so I made plum jam while I watched Charlie's, Charlie's funeral. Now, see, that's a great use where you were able to multitask there at the same time. That's great, Holly. Good to hear from you, okay? Be well. Me, you too. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. K-bye. K-M-E-D and KM-E-D. HD-1, Eagle Point, Medford, KBXG, Grant Spans. Hi, good morning, Bill. It's Vicki from the Applegate. Hi, Vicki. How are things with you today? Good. I'm just waiting for the sun to come over the mountain.
Starting point is 00:47:07 It's going to be another beautiful day. It's going to feel more like summer rather than the first day of fall. Oh, I know. And I have to get in my pool and jizz it around, and it's like ice water. So I hope I'm just going to wait until this afternoon. It takes the ice plunge. There you go. There you go. Do you heat it at all, or is it just? No. No. It's just as cold as it possibly can be. In the deep summer, I've got to add cool water to it just to keep it, you know, from going green. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:47:38 Sure. Right now, it's freezing. So what else was on your mind here? I didn't mean to interrupt you. No, no, that's fine. We've got to do our little juzh before, you know, get to the seriousness. But I just had a comment about the Portland and the windows being boarded up. By the way, for people who just joined, let me just recap.
Starting point is 00:47:56 Portland is filing land use violations against immigration and customs enforcement saying that well, first of all, they're saying that they're keeping people in there too long. And second of all, that they're complaining about the boarded-up windows. And, of course, well, why do you think the windows are boarded up in downtown Portland here, Vicki? What do you think? Well, that's my exact thought. You know, are they going to start, like, complaining about infringing on squatters' rights? because they're inhabiting, you know, properties that have been boarded up by the owners.
Starting point is 00:48:31 Are they going to start charging the owners for having boards on their windows, you know, to keep the vagrants out and stuff? It's ridiculous. They won't have – they don't have a specific place that – none of them are going to be happy with whatever facility they put the immigrants in or the illegals in until they're, you know, forced to get. out of our country. But if you ask me, they're illegals. I mean, they're not here legally. And the accommodations, if they have water, they have food, they have a place to sleep. I mean, that's like giving them way more than probably they deserve. Now, I'm probably going to get
Starting point is 00:49:16 a lot of backlash for that. But, I mean, I just, I don't understand. They're so nitpicky about everything. It's like, why don't you go after the murderers and the rapist and the, I mean, are you going to put them in? Well, why doesn't Portland then just provide a safe and sane environment for ICE to be able to do their federally authorized duty? I mean, that's the point in. But they're not going to do this. They just want to squeeze it out. Point well taken.
Starting point is 00:49:41 Appreciate the call. Thank you, Vicki. Grab one more. Hi, good morning. Who's this? This is minor, Dave. Yeah, Dave. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:49:48 Part of the early morning risers club. Let's hear you. Well, I watched the whole thing, which was really hard for me. But, and I have a couple of things to say. Sure. One is the bagpipe guys with, you know, in the Scottish dress playing Amazing Grace. That really touched me. And then, like you say, her speech, it touched me somewhere in the heart.
Starting point is 00:50:18 Because, see, I don't know if I could do that, but I would want, I'd want to because it's the right thing to do. And then the New York Times interviewed her on whether she wanted him to get the death penalty, and she says that she's going to leave it up to the government because she doesn't want blood on her hands. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Appreciate the call, as always. Thank you, Dave.
Starting point is 00:50:47 7705633. We'll continue some open phone call here. You can talk about your experience with the Charlie Kirk moment. Memorial or anything else happens to be on your mind here, too. A couple of quick emails. Emails of the day are sponsored by Dr. Steve Nelson, Central Point Family Dentistry. Dentistry.com. Central Point Family Dentistry.com.
Starting point is 00:51:05 While you weigh crowns, yep, they do them there. Could take you like 45 minutes or so after the pictures are taking. Good stuff. Get your appointment today. Central Point Family Dentistry.com. James, Jim Bob writes Bill. Comrade Bill. Erica Kirk confirmed this weekend that Charlie Kirk was not wearing a vest.
Starting point is 00:51:22 Okay, so that blows that other theory. that the keyboard warriors were talking about, Jim Bob. That still raises a question in my mind. 150-yard shot. The throat bone, supposedly, or the spine stops it? Of course, I don't know what type of round was being fired. That 30-0.6, that doesn't sound right to me. that could spread more conspiracy conjecture here, Jim Bob,
Starting point is 00:51:57 but I appreciate the call, thanks, or the email, rather. And Keith says, Bill, God can't forgive you if you can't forgive others. Yeah, thank you very much. I'm only an amateur theologian, but I appreciate your take, okay? KMED, KMED, HD, HD, Eagle Point, Metford, KBXG, Grants Pass. Town Hall News next. Thank you.

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