Bill Meyer Show Podcast - Sponsored by Clouser Drilling www.ClouserDrilling.com - 09-22-25_MONDAY_7AM

Episode Date: September 23, 2025

09-22-25_MONDAY_7AM

The Bill Myers Show podcast is sponsored by Klauser Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausurrilling.com. Happy to take your call and wherever you happen to be. Cool start of the morning and then a hot day. It's going to look more like summer for the next few days here. That's so bad. Yeah, and I was working and sweating like a little piggy yesterday in the middle of some of that.

Part of it was putting, of course, it's kind of funny. I ended up, I was at daisies and I ended up buying some weed killer that they had, which was on sale. And I had no doubt Linda is watching me with weed killer on my lawn, which is about 80% lawn. And what's the point? I'm sure. I have no doubt that's what she's thinking as I was doing it. Oh, well, I can't help it. I feel like I've got to be doing something about that.

I've got to kill the whole thing at some point and start again someday. but I've been saying that for about five, six years now. All right. Another interesting story over the weekend. I was talking about this on social media on Friday. Before I get to your calls, there's one of the mention of this one. The boss of the FCC, Chairman Brendan Carr,

FCC Federal Communications Commission, everybody who's in broadcast, broadcast, television, broadcast radio like yours, truly we're all under the boot and the thumb of people like Brendan Carr. and I've generally been quite happy about what he's been doing. He's been doing pretty good job on deregulating things that needed deregulated, so I think that's good. But he has suggested investigating whether the view, that snake pit of nasty left-wing activism,

was violating broadcast rules in the wake of Jimmy Kimmel's suspension. Hmm. Jimmy Kimmel Live, of course, suspended because the host made controversial comments about the killing of, Charlie Kirk, that's certainly part of it. It's losing money, making a lot of money, and the show is not making a lot of money, and I'm sure that, you know, ABC just looking at this and going, okay, we're looking for a off-ramp, no doubt about that. However, don't tell me that, in fact, I think it was Next Star, Next Star in the middle of a big $6 billion merger with another

television network there, and they were one of the companies that ended up dumping Jimmy Kimmel the other week. And no doubt I have a feeling that Brendan Carr, being the FCC chair, kind of thinking, hey, you know, like I said, nice television stations you have there, it'd be a shame if something happened to the license or be a shame if something

happened to your $6.2 billion deal next door. Just saying. So that's why I've been saying over the weekend, and some people agree, other people don't, that it was more than just a free market involved with Jimmy Kimmel's firing, but

But there's a little bit of politics in this, too. But anyway, FCC, though, talking about going after the view on equal time, violating the commission's equal time rule. Now, I know a little bit about this. Maybe I need to find out more about this. I know my boss certainly understands this, too. But the equal time rule is not an equal time rule that says that, okay, you're a bunch of harpy blood-sucking leftist on the left, and you're sitting there espousing all sorts of

crap for an hour each day and you have to have the other side on to a spouse there well you have to give half of it to the to the other side no it's not what it means it essentially means at the basics and if that federal candidates and by the way equal time rules only involve federal candidates federal candidates if you're if you're talking with one federal candidate in the election cycle then the other candidate could request time. Could, and by the way, this is an important distinction. If they're talking with a bunch of Democrats that are espousing all sorts of garbage, okay, they talk with AOC all the time, yada, yada, yada, fine, fine.

Then whoever's running against AOC could request time from the view to come on. But that's the other thing. The candidate has to request it. honestly, do you know many conservatives or Republican candidates running for office would want to request time on the view? I don't think so. Very few. Very few.

And just like that, you know, people running for now, of course, they're trying to make the case that the view is a news program, a bona fide news program. I don't think you could really do that. an opinion program that has a little bit of news, you know, in it. But we'll see. I don't think there are many Republicans that would want to actually request time on the view. It's kind of like they're not your people. Why bother? But, you know, who knows?

We'll see where the FCC takes that. Let me go to Wild Sam and Steve. Steve, you wanted to talk about the health care system, something you're looking at here in southern Oregon? Go ahead. Yeah, well, I'm beyond the issue. E. Keel Emanuel's good date-to-die thing, and I've been in the hospital a couple of times recently and experienced the health care that we have. And I must say the nurses, I'm not going to say which hospital, but the nurses are wonderful. One of the older nurses, she's

about 40, told me that she has two issues. She's thinking of retiring. One is that people are crappy. They keep threatening to report them to length in because they didn't answer the buzzer in three minutes or something. Really? And or the food, yes. And the other is the weight of average patients is going up like 50 pounds a year, and she thinks in five years the average patients are going to weigh 400 pounds. Holy moly. That's an interesting. Now, I don't know if if it's going to go up 50 pounds a year. But you're saying, though, that the average weight of a patient, though, is growing dramatically, right?

Yes, yes. I saw some patients on gurneys that overlap the thing by quite a little bit and looked kind of tippy. So I don't doubt that that's true. And if you have that kind of condition where you're way overweight, the chances of you having hospitalization is probably pretty high. Blood pressure, you know, diabetes, whatever. So as a nurse, she said it takes six people to pull someone up in the bed if they've scooted down.

Six people. Yes. And, you know, she was saying that people are just nasty to them. I was apologizing for ringing the buzzer. I had a couple things I needed, and they go, hey, you're fine. Don't worry about it, she said. Well, you know, the point is, though, I'm always respectful of nurses' time. And I know that Linda, when she was in the hospital, I've never really been checked into the hospital, but relatives of mine have been.

And, no, I take that back. No, I take that back. I was in the hospital one time here in Southern Oregon when it ended up having a varicose vane blow out at 4 in the morning. But that, I didn't realize I had a big problem. But that's that 15 years ago. But be that as it may, still, this is a big deal. This is a big deal. So lack of respect, they're not feeling the respect or any kind of love whatsoever?

Is that what you're getting at? Absolutely. Everybody's on their phone, is threatening to report them to LinkedIn or something. I don't know. I'm not a tech person, but, you know, all the younger people are on their phone doing whatever young people do on the phone, and they're criticizing the health care system. What about like giving a Yelp review for the nurse that came to serve you the opiates? Okay.

Yeah, it's a challenge. And another thing is there's a very large crew of new nurses. that have just been hatched, you know. And, of course, they've got a lot to learn. Just getting through nursing school doesn't mean you know everything. And I just see there's a huge problem there. You know, if you add that to the fact that the Providence is not making money. In fact, it's continuing to lose money hand over fist in providing its main mission,

which main mission, rather, providing health care. Those are huge issues, and I hadn't heard anybody say anything about how the nurses felt that they were being treated, so I thought that was worthwhile. All right. Thank you for making it, too. Thank you, Steve, Wild Sam and Steve. Let me grab another one. Hi, good morning. This is Bill.

Who's this? Morning, Bill. It's Lynn. Hi, Lynn. How are you? I'm good. I just, I watched bits and pieces I'm picking up on the speeches that I want to hear from yesterday. but I really was astonished by the deep faith of many people that I wasn't sure about,

which is pretty awesome. And, you know, they're talking about estimates now when you add everybody up inside and outside, $200,000 in that neighborhood. Wow. You know, the gospel was preached to more people yesterday in the world than the entire history of the world. It's kind of amazing. So I think this is the beginning of a worldwide revival,

and that's my prayer and hope. But I wanted to talk about forgiveness, because forgiveness is a really difficult subject. And when Erica said that she forgives the shooter, she didn't mean that all of her feelings of rage and anger and hurt are gone. I understand that. I think most people understand that, but maybe not. But it's a decision that you make, and then over time,

it's impossible to do apart from God. It's not possible. But with the power of the Holy Spirit, over time, those feelings dissipate, and you can come to a place of peace, and I've experienced this in my life. It also helps to understand your own depravity, and most of us don't really understand how fallen we are. I ruined my life to such an extent that I had to come face to face with that, and it was a great gift because once you understand how badly you need salvation and how deep and dark your own heart is, it's a lot easier to forgive because you were forgiven by God and you know you needed it, and it's easier to extend it. at least you know you need to, and it's motivating to keep working at it until you're really there. And ultimately, God is the only perfect judge, and he is going to judge Robinson. And if he repents, truly repents, Charlie's going to forgive him, too.

And I had this, I just in prayer for the whole situation, and even that this kid would repent, I pictured right after his execution being in heaven and being embraced by Charlie. He would totally do that. That's a great wonder of our faith. I imagine he probably would. My point being, though, that I'm just being honest when I say that had this, were this to occur to me, I don't know if I would be as generous of spirit as Erica Kirk was. I'm just saying I'm just being honest about that.

Well, it is. I mean, and she might be. She probably is incredibly generous of heart far more than I am because I tend to get really angry and, you know, I have to work at it. But it's the calling of every Christian. If you're going to follow Christ, that's what you have to do. You're to love your enemies and forgive those who persecute you. But does loving your enemy, though, mean that you allow your enemy to do as they will with you? what what what was erika just voted to be CEO of tp u.s.a yeah that's right see it doesn't mean

it doesn't mean being a laydown but you have much more power when you are not controlled by hatred and unforgiveness you have great spiritual power and this and this uh organization led by her it's going to grow it's going to become more effective and it's pretty amazing and it's yesterday it was one of the most encouraging days I've seen in many years. Many of us have been praying for revival for many years, and I think this is, it was beginning at a low level, but I think this is going to take off like a fire, and it's super exciting.

We may look back at this time as the beginning of a good old day later in the future. Well, the good new days. The good new days, all right, but you look back and say, oh, yeah, the good old days when the revival ended up, rolling forward. Just saying. Maybe the third great awakening. You know, we've talked a lot about how good times create weak men, weak people. Well, we're seeing the rise of strong men, strong people. My same men, I mean that in a generic sense. We've been going through some hard times for a number of years, but we are seeing the rise of strong and principled and godly leaders. And it's

incredibly encouraging. I told our kids when they were growing up and the kids that I tutor, you guys are going to be in the hero generation. This is in the 90s. I didn't know what was going to unfold, but I knew from history there was going to be some kind of a major crisis and collapse. That was before COVID and everything. And I said, you guys are going to be the generation that rescues this country. And that's, that is indeed what is unfolding. Indeed. It's wonderful. I appreciate you calling in. Thank you so much for the thoughtfulness as always. Thank you. Be well, Lynn. 734 at KMED, 993KBXG. By the way, Lynn, as I wasn't going to, you know, inquisor, you know, on this, but Lynn is with Sky Park Insurance, just like Steve Yancey at Sky Park Insurance.

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right now it could use a psychiatrist in some circles it would be uh right now uh dr carroll welcome back to the program good to have you on thank you my pleasure by the way uh dr carroll leberman is also the terrorist therapist, host of Dr. Carroll's Couch on voiceamerica.com, the terrorist therapist podcast, forensic psychiatrist, expert witness, bestselling award-winning author of four books, two on terrorism, two on relationships, man just getting involved in all that. And I always appreciate you coming on. Dr. Before we get into, you know, what happened 10, 11 days ago with Charlie Kirk here, I think what has been a more interesting psychiatric study is seeing how a big chunk of America has responded to it.

And it strikes me as it, I know that, you know, sometimes politics is rough and tumble here. But the number of people, especially number of school teachers, government officials, I mean, you know, people in the high world, mucky mucks of, you know, of the world, so to speak, is kind of blathering on about, well, it's okay, had it coming, these sort of things happen, and you're not going to get me to say something, you know, not nasty about this. What does that say about us as a people more than anything else? I don't know. Any thoughts on that? Yes. It says that half of the country,

is in deep, well, we're all in deep trouble because half of the country is so unfeeling, so angry, so wrong, so misguided, I'll say. Because, you know, first of all, even if you don't have to agree with his politics, but just the idea that a father and a husband, you know, a young man, 31 years old, was killed in such a brutal manner. I mean, that alone, regardless of his politics, but that just, it just shows it has, it's really an awakening. I mean, you know, a lot of people are saying that it's an awakening. And it certainly is. I mean, I liken it to 9-11, that stature. That kind of shock to the system then. That's how you see it?

Yes, exactly. Of course, 9-11 had a, well, it had devastating effects. But the one positive effect was that it brought us closer together. It made it more patriotic. It made people join the military and all kinds of good things like that. I mean, of course, it was devastating to the country, and we're still – we're not over all the effects of it, you know. But – so it's that kind of a cataclysmic event. And, I mean, a lot of people didn't know who Charlie Kirk was before the assassination.

True. But then as, you know, now they're getting to know if they didn't know before, and I think in the end, similarly, it's going to have a positive effect in that certainly with the memorial yesterday, it was so inspiring. I mean, I was so proud of our country, of, well, of the people who spoke, in any case, of the, you know, the beautiful, such beautiful, patriotic, loving, speeches, inspiring speeches from everybody, you know, even people I didn't expect. I was kind of surprised that Tulsi Gabbard. It's kind of like, you know, going out there, it seemed to be preaching it, you know, in some ways. It was kind of interesting, you know, to watch some of the people go off there.

In fact, I was thinking, you know, she's Hindu, isn't she, from what I recall? I don't really, I'm not sure. Uh-huh. Yeah, I think she's a practicing Hindu, but that's okay. You know, I just kind of surprised me where people were going, you know, on this particular deal. Yes, everyone had their own take. But, you know, another thing that was a little surprising in kind of a good way was the rapprochement that seemed to happen between Trump and Elon Musk. That was that I hope that they, whatever they were saying, it's something that brings them closer together beyond the memorial.

It would be interesting to see if there is a rapproachment between the two of them. That would be good. That could be only healthy at this point in time, really. There's nothing like, you know, dueling billionaires, you know, just clashing with each other outside of the playground. I think we have other things we've got to worry about at this point. Exactly. Yeah. Exactly.

You know, the part of this, though, that cannot be – I'm going to preface this before we delve in. to what happened with the shooter, that we're having great difficulty as a nation, as a people, I think, even agreeing on what basic facts are about a situation. And I'll give you an example, the emotional side of this. I have my sister, love my sister, but she is, as I would say, you know, a hard, loony left, very emotional, progressive, okay? That's where she comes from. three children, each one of them on some form of LGBTQ kick. Oh, I'm serious. I know, I thought you were going to say on some form of medication.

Well, that may be too. That may be two. One of them is, one's gay, one's trans, one is questioning. It's like I do find this, you know, it's interesting that it comes from a hard, progressive, single female, okay, single white female. And I can't help but notice the correlation with a lot of what we see on the national stage with people setting themselves on fire and getting fired and or canceled, you know, with, you know, kind of what they're saying. But my sister would call me up and say, Trump is trying to kill my children. Oh, wow. And she means it.

She means it. I can't, I am so disappointed, Bill, that you are voted, you voted for someone that is trying to kill my children. Now, I don't know, you know, I'm bringing up my sister because I have a feeling there are way more of my sisters that I might have thought. And there's a real issue there. And when I say, well, how is he trying to kill them? How is he killing them? And, you know, and I don't know if maybe is, if denying the delusion or the mental illness of the transgenderism is maybe that's trying to kill someone, maybe that's how it is conflated.

What do you say about something like this? Because we can take it then into Tyler Robinson and his motivations on this, I guess, too. Well, you know, I actually had a similar kind of situation last night where I went to choir practice for the high holidays. And I was saying to some people, did you watch the memorial? And more people than I would have expected. I mean, I don't know that I would have expected anybody. But more people than I liked came back with some kind of an answer. Like, they would say something like, oh, wasn't it, I don't know, shocking or something, something,

some word that could have been interpreted either way. And really what they meant was, you know, that they didn't like him. They didn't, you know, they didn't even know him, of course. but the fact that he was associated with Trump and, you know, all of that, they had negative reactions to him, like, you know, or even just passionate reactions, like, oh, well, you know, whatever. And it's really disappointing. And, you know, those are just people, the only people that I spoke to yesterday last night. So I don't mean to imply that I didn't even do with the choir.

Yeah, yeah. But this was just a random group of people. people running into Dr. Lieberman, right? That's sort of a thing. Exactly. And I was just because, you know, I had met him. You know, I had him on my podcast. And so I got to speak with him one-on-one for, I don't know, 45 minutes or so.

And I'm not saying we were BFFs. I liked him. And, yes, in that time, I really liked him. And he came off as a war-carrying, you know, you see is what you get. And he's the real deal. Like, you know, he isn't faking all this stuff. And so, and my question was, how did your parents make a Charlie Kirk? Like, I was trying to, to kind of, for my audience, to help parents, you know, wouldn't they like to make a Charlie Kirk? Wouldn't they like to make a child who is so patriotic, who is so

religious, whatever religion, and so on? And, um, and, um, and, um, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, And, you know, just so I, I'm actually, I've, it's really affected me even with this small, you know, I hardly knew him compared to some of the other people, obviously. But, but even just this small contact, I've noticed that I've been depressed ever since, you know, I've been grieving to some degree, ever since, ever since it happened, right before 9-11, of course. And so, so, you know, you should care. you didn't have to have him on your on your podcast you know just from what you you do know about him he was like so dedicated and and we do need more people to be more that patriotic you know and and you don't have to be he was he wasn't trying to get people to be his religion necessarily although the memorials are well some of it well i'll tell you there's a lot of preaching going on

yesterday that's true for sure you know that's true his wife in particular you know comparing him to Jesus and all that. There was that. But really, you know, I mean, we do need to get back to religion, whatever religion people are, because we lost that a lot during the, during COVID when we weren't allowed to go to houses of worship. Well, we also kind of lost the basic rules of a civil society or some way, and say what you will. And I know the people who are, you know, unchurched or not religious, you may disagree, but that is one service that I think, you know, good religion has performed in society in the past is that here's the basic civil, the basic civil understanding of interacting in civil society of where we go.

Fair enough. I mean, you know, the basic rules. Knowing right from wrong. Yeah, exactly. A little bit of that. Doesn't hurt, for sure. let's take it then as I go from like I said my sister I love dearly but oh my gosh I can't I can't talk to her about these things so we have a lot of people that don't want to

or if they do want to talk about things they want to they want to kill you that's a that's a bad thing let's take it over then to the alleged murderer of Charlie Kirk and Tyler Robinson and we know more than we did I think last time that we talked you know more evidence coming forth at this point. And well, the messages on the bullets, we got his, his furry boyfriend, you know, alleged boyfriend. It's just, it's just an odd stew here. And I was wondering if you could kind of take us, put them on the doctor's couch for us, if you could, Dr. Lieberman. Yes. Well, you know, kind of like your sister, although, of course, he's a much, you know, he's taken a much further than your sister, but still same, same spectrum. You know, these people who

have these views feel so righteous, self-righteous in having these views because either they are associating in real life with people who have similar views and or they find on social media people who have the same views. So they feel as though they are saying these things on behalf, not just as themselves, but like on behalf of everybody, you know? I mean, certainly that idea that Trump is going to kill my kids. I mean, lots of people think that, who are, who have LGBTQ plus kids. Because that's what's been promoted on social media and by people who are the leaders of the people who think like that and so on. Is that also the danger, Dr. Lieberman, of when you have a culture that has pushed a,

if you disagree with our politics, you are a Nazi, you are a Nazi, you are a Nazi. And, of course, what do we do with Nazis? Well, we shoot and kill them. That there has to be some kind of a connection in there, you know, driving it, wouldn't there? Yes, absolutely. That, you know, like when they were saying at the end of the campaign that Trump was Hitler and, you know, yes. I mean, Nazi has become like a curse word, you know, like any old curse word. And we've just lost all sense of proportion.

We've lost really, I mean, you know, tossing around words like that, they become meaningless. And then, of course, then of course we have the shooter. Now, the shooter is a really, I would love to have him on my couch. He's an interesting guy because it isn't black and white, you know, what is wrong with him. Uh, first of all, I mean, I actually was quoted in a whole big article this weekend in the Daily Mail, um, about, about how, um, part of his reason was that he was, um, that he was protecting his, his, his, uh, boyfriend, girlfriend, furry friend. Yeah, yeah, male transitioning to, uh, to female status, that kind of thing, right? And now is it, is it true? I, I read somewhere else that, uh, that this, uh, Lance, uh, Whigs guy, who is, by the way, is cooperating with authorities on this, apparently. Well, that's an interesting thing, his cooperation.

Yeah? Because I think, you know, at first I was wondering why he was cooperating so much. First, I thought, well, maybe he wants to get part of the reward money. Then I thought maybe he's betraying. Maybe he really, you know, is angry at Tyler. You know, he wants to get back at him or something. Yeah, you're kind of doing this in his name, you know, in his name, right? Lance Twig's name.

some reason that he's like, you know, angry at him. And then I came, but my current thinking is, I think that he is more involved than he wants people to know. Oh. And I think he's been trying to get ahead of it by being so cooperative, like trying, you know, to make it seem like he would be the last person who could be guilty in any way. But I think, you know how it's come out that Tyler has was writing things on social media or on these chat rooms, on Discord and all that? And there were some people who wrote things where they seemed to know about it like a week ahead of time.

Yeah. And so this is alluding to what even the FBI is thinking, that there may be a larger network than we think, in other words. Yes. And so if these people who knew about it. it. Wouldn't you think the guy, girl, furry, closest to him would know about it? So I think he's afraid that he's going to be implicated, that they're going to come to him at some point, that they're going to realize that he knew something. I don't know that he actually did something like, you know, helped in some way necessarily, but just that he's more involved

than he wants them to think. Is there any psychiatric significance to the fact that Robinson flunked out of college on that big, fat scholarship? Because it looked like there was just something that was, he was going to write his own ticket. Yes, that was when things went wrong. That was when his life took a turn for the worst. And why, so what happened in that? That's the key, really. what happened in that year, that semester.

And, you know, it could be that that is when he started having his first schizophrenic break, although there aren't, I don't know that there are any real symptoms that one could look at necessarily, but it's just typical. It's the age and typically, if someone is going to have their first schizophrenic break, it often does happen when they first go to college because they're on their own. It's the age that schizophrenia typically happens with the late teens to the mid-20s. Yeah, you're right. You talked about that before.

Yeah. Okay. Okay. But also, the more I'm finding out about his boyfriend, girlfriend, furry, I can't help. I have to say that. You know, and by the way, for those that don't know, could you explain because, you know, people, they hear the term furry. What is a furry? Because most people that work in the real world really don't hear much about the furry.

Could you explain what that is? Sure. Yes, buries are people generally, like high school kids. No, it's, well, it was more recently we heard about it maybe like a year ago or so that they were in the news in a particular school, like a high school, I think, in the Midwest, because there was a school or there's several schools where they were putting, what do you call it? Litter boxes. Litter boxes, thank you.

I have two cats. I should know that. they were putting litter boxes in the bathrooms for the furries. And, you know, it was really, it was kids or people who put on clothing of animals and like to, and they watch certain, they draw and they watch certain, like, sexualized cartoons of animals. And there are adults also, before this, before it got to be, you know, with the litter boxes, there were adults doing this.

And it's kind of a fetish. It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a sexual fetish. And so, and of course the picture that's being, the one picture that's going around of his partner, I mean, his roommate, is of him in like this furry hat, you know, some kind of an animal hat. And something really interesting that came out is that the friend, I think their friend is definitely more. into all of this than I think that Tyler was to begin with. And so in that semester, is that when he met his, you know, partner? Yeah.

Is there any evidence in your experience that when you start going down the road of sexual deviancy that you find, you know, if you're willing to go down the roads of sexual deviancy, that you are more open to then doing, you know, being even more deviant behavior, such as engaging in murder and assassination? Well, that is the big question that is being explored at this point. You know, are people who are trans more prone to violence? I mean, you know, they were talking about how someone had suggested making a law that not to let trans people get guns, banning guns for trans people. Now, I don't know.

I mean, I mean, what you can say is certainly the. These are people who have a lot of self-loathing. They don't want to be themselves. You know, they change their sex. They say, well, they can't. Well, and if I change my outward appearance of gender, then somehow that will fix me, right? That kind of thing. Well, yeah.

I mean, that's what they're convinced to believe. And so with the self-loathing, you know, there's an edge between suicide and homicide that is very fine. And so there could be something there. Now, I'm not for banning guns from transgender because that's a very slippery slope than what, banning guns from people who, for people who are depressed, you know, people who are anxious. Yeah, and I've often wondered where this goes because there have been some that say that I'm not very good with authorities sometimes, and so I would have oppositional, what, defiance disorder?

Defiance disorder. Yeah, and hence, you know, no firearm for you to defend yourself. Right, exactly. So I get that. I understand the slippery side of that, okay? All right. Wow. Boy, I'll tell you, something tells me you would have about a lifetimes worth of podcast if you get a chance to interview these two people over time, that's for sure.

But where can people go to find out more about everything, Dr. Lieberman? I know there's what, expert witness psychiatrist? Expertwitnessphoransicpsychiatrist.com. Okay. Got that one. and also terrorist therapist.com. And also, I'm crazy on X on Twitter. I'm a Twitter and fool.

Good for you. Hey, you know, final question. It just came to my mind. I know that President Trump is declaring Antifa a terrorist organization. What is your overall impression of that? Do you think it fits? Well, I mean, yes, I guess it does. I'd have to, I mean, because the terrorists, generically,

terrorist is a person or a group who uses violence to try to change the culture or the laws, the politics. And so, yes, you could say that. But, you know, that's a little bit of a slippery slope, too. But I think Antifa has probably proven itself already to fit that diagnosis, you know, that name. Yeah, looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, right? And starting to look like a terrorist doc, gotcha. Dr. Lieberman, always a pleasure talking with you, always thought provoking, and I hope that I'd ever have to go onto your couch for, hopefully we can remain relatively healthy, but we'll see, we'll get back to you. Of course, if I think I'm healthy, does that mean I'm mentally ill? Yes, right. Okay. I'm just kidding you. But anyway,

thank you for being on the show, as always. Always appreciate your time, okay? Okay, you're very welcome. Dr. Carol Lieberman, MD, M-P-H, known as the terrorist therapist, and more. It is KMED and KMED HD-1 Eagle Point Medford. KBXG Grants Pass. Fontana Roofing keeps rolling out new products, constantly challenging their in-house creative. You're here in the Bill Myers Show on 1063 KMED. Dr. Annas Powers will join me a little bit later, a few minutes after the Kim Commando Digital Update. We'll have Town Hall News coming up here, too. James, he's on from Selma. How you doing there, James?

Good morning. Hi, Bill. What's up? If there, if you do a search, a search engine or search Google or Duck, Duck, Go, for armed queers of Utah, arms queer as Utah, it'll bring up many articles, one's New York Post, but many articles about this trans lady, her parents are from Iran, but she's, uh, received awards from the, from the United Nations. She said that it's okay to use violence to demand that men use the ladies' restroom. She appeared with Elizabeth Warren, Senator. She is a communist, socialist, Marxist, Leninist.

She worked with David Hogg. hog. In other words, she's a very strong member of the island of misfit humans. Okay. Yeah, she says that it's okay to use violence to demand rights for LGBT, whatever. Well, you know, it's, you know, far paid for me, but I think that anybody, okay, you're going to live your life in a particular way. You have no right to demand that I buy a ticket to your crazy circus.

That's the way I tend to look at this. I think there's 10,000 members of the gun group that there's articles on Zero Hedge over the weekend, and like I say, just do the search those three words of queer. Okay, yeah, I got that. All right. All right, James, thanks for the tip there. Yeah, I have heard of that group. Interesting, interesting times that we find ourselves in, all right.

Thanks. We'll catch up with Town Hall News. Quick look at the headlines here. Dr. Vanis Powers, where past meets present, too. And we're going to do something. Kind of a nice little pallet cleanser to wrap things up a little bit later. And there's a group which is working really hard. And I have a soft spot for cats.

I have a soft spot for dogs, too. But I happen to have cats. I got two. All right. Yes, I am a cat servant. That's my job. I get up in the morning and I know that there's a treat from Maddie. and there's a little stroke with the brush for Charlie, Charlie, the massive big cahuna,

little cat who eats way too much, but don't get me started on this. But we feed a lot of cats in our neighborhood because there are a lot of people dumping cats. I don't like that. I don't like that at all. And they're working to get these feral cats, the ones that have been dumped and things fixed and taken care of and neutering to stop the prevalence in our neighborhood. and other neighborhoods of a lot of cats. We don't like seeing things start.

We just don't. And we'll talk with them about that and what they're working on next. Okay, that'll be coming up about a half hour, half hour, 45 minutes or so. And we'll tell you about it. I think it's great work this group's doing. This summer has been hot.

Have you enjoyed time outside? Have you noticed your patio?