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Episode Date: September 23, 2025

Open phone calls, drama over the Jo Co proposed GOP commissioners recall and other topics.

The Bill Meyer Show podcast is sponsored by Klausur Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausor drilling.com. Here's Bill Meyer. Hey, if you've got a pebble in your boots, in your shoe, in your sandal, check in. It's pebble in your shoe Tuesday, which means that all comers, you've got a issue that is going on. Fine, 7705-633-770KMED. So, interesting.

A lot of people writing me about that conversation over autism. What was your overall impression of the Trump administration, RFK Jr., everybody getting out there and talking about the autism and acetaminophen, the Tylenol connection? My overall feel about this is that it's an easier way to kind of open up the door, getting the camel's nose into the big pharma tent, so to speak. and maybe you go with something which is much older and perhaps less controversial. I don't know. And then as time goes on, they do a little bit more digging. And, okay, it's not just a CETA-Metaphon. Oh, yeah, okay, we're seeing the combination of vaccines.

Okay, the adjuvents were, and they're doing a lot of cleaning up of the vaccines. I think that's overall a pretty good, a pretty good start. That's the way I'm looking at it. I know there are a lot of the vaccine folks, the anti-vaccine folks or the questioning vaccine folks that are not particularly happy with it. And I shared some of that last hour, but patients will have to see. Okay. I had something happen over the weekend. Actually, it was Friday.

Friday ended up happening. Every few days, my mother, my 85-year-old mother, love you to death, mom. She may be listening right now. I don't know. Or she could be sleeping soundly. my 85-year-old mother likes an occasional treat. And an occasional treat for her is

I go to McDonald's or I go to Wendy's and I get, yes, I know it's a fast food burger. Oh, no, Bill, you're talking about the quality of food. You're going fast food burger, isn't it? No, no, no, not bad. You're going, it's just nuts. You're not happy about it. No, it's this.

Yes, occasionally. when my 84-year-old or 85-year-old mother says that she would like a fast food hamburger with a milkshake or a frosty, I will get her a milkshake or a frosty and a hamburger. I'll just get that. That is the treat. She says it reminds me back when I was a kid in the 1950s when I was a teenager that would go to the, go to the sock hop or whatever it is, go to the drive-in. You know, to her, it's a happy meal.

It's a happy-day meal, you know, that kind of thing. and so I get them. And so I'll do that every now and then, get through the drive-thru and, uh, yeah, like a double cheeseburger, blah, blah, bah, hamburger, and what it is? Well, the funny thing is, I got in the drive-thru on Friday. It's about 1.30. And there was a line of about six or seven of us. And it stopped.

And it just didn't move at all. We were all just sitting there and sitting there. and sitting there, and I didn't think too much about it because, hey, I promised Mom I was going to get her one of these things, so I'm just going to do this, and just kept going on. So I started answering emails and doing other things on the phone right then. And finally, after about 15 minutes in one line, I'm going, okay, this is nuts. Something is really wrong here. And so this one I was able to pull around and get out and go around to the other side. So then I ended up popping into the McDonald's.

That's the one over on Biddle of McAnvers in that shopping center. now on that one you cannot escape if there's a problem you are penned in you are in the you are in the cattle shoot you know going in so we're getting in there and we're waiting and we're waiting and we're waiting again so the same sort of thing just like it was over at the wendies and so I put the car in park got out of the car

and I'm ready to walk inside and saying, you know, what the heck is going on here? This was after another 15 minutes. Okay, I've answered all of my emails and done the other things that I was going to do, and so I was done with that. I'm thinking, this is really nuts. Why would you have two of them at the same time? And then they said, okay, we got it working, we got it working, and then the line started moving.

And I got through it. All go up there, fine. Pay for mom's stuff. But I talked to the drive-through person, I said, well, you know, I just came from another restaurant that was doing the same thing. And what the guy in the drive-thru said was that, well, we had one of those instantaneous power supply or power outages, the ones which just go, kunk, kunk. The lights go out, the lights come back on, and then it kills our systems. I said, really?

So you get an instantaneous power failure like that, and you're dead for 15 to 20 minutes. It goes, oh, yeah, yeah. And we've been seeing more of that recently. I said, oh, really? So I'm figuring what happened to McDonald's was the same thing. It was the same parking lot, same thing that happened to the Wendy's over there.

It kills their satellite, their point of purchases, kind of computers, and I don't know, There's probably some microprocessors that runs the French friars and all the rest of it. But it literally took them 20 minutes to get back going. And I said, really? It takes you 20 minutes for this to restart again? Oh, yeah, they're going in there. They're getting the computers restarted.

Now, the first thing that ran through my mind is, I can't believe, given what's been going on with Pacific Power here. over the last few months and years here, as we've been talking about whether it's been wildfire policy, whether it's about lack of grid resiliency. But apparently a lot of these restaurants and businesses around here are not using uninterruptible power supplies that will at least take care of the temporary bumps and grinds

and things that happen to the power supplies, but still 20 minutes. And so I asked the fellow at the drive-thru, and I said, does this happen often? Oh, we've had this happen seven or eight times just the last few months here. It was since the first of the year. This sort of stuff is happening more and more often than I said, and you're off 20.

You can't sell hamburgers and French fries 20 minutes each time? You go, yeah, it's about what it takes. And it was something that kind of shocked me. First off, that, A, we're seeing more of that great instability around here. just, you know, little bumps, things that throw computers. And also, second of all, that we have such a fragile business environment that is so utterly dependent on perfect power at all times. And it kind of surprised because, you know, both of those restaurants were dealing with the exact same thing.

Oh, yep, power went down, boom, and they were out, and they couldn't do anything. You can't do anything until the computers come back. this is more of a criticism about Pacific Power and how the focus seems to be more on once again not really working hard to get baseload power into this situation everything that is coming out of Pacific Power's mouth these days is how to deal with the shortage, how to redistribute the shortage and how do we get more renewables onto the system

no we don't even want to go hydro anymore because hydro they mean fish you know the fish are much more deserving of power than than we humans are you know that kind of thing human civilization can go to hell you know back into it but also I just thought it was an interesting deal that the system is so fragile we have a complex system that is very fragile do I have a solution for this right now no I don't at the moment other than perhaps we back away from absolutely everything having to be in the cloud on the satellite on the well not even hard drive nobody has hard drives anymore what you know in the chips and things like that you should be able to buy and sell hamburgers and continue to make them when you get a one second power failure don't you think that says a lot about where we find the United States right now and we're talking about all this AI

all this AI AI AI AI AI AI but we can't serve the hamburgers we can't serve the hamburgers consistently and I wish maybe we would focus a little bit less on the AI and just how about just keeping the main infrastructure and repairing the main infrastructure to the point where America actually works again just saying 727, that is a pebble in my shoe, at least. 770563.6.33.

You're on the Bill Myers Show. So, you're a batteries plus go-to guy. The Joe Pag Show, evening 6 to 8 on KMED. This is the Bill Myers Show on 1063, KMED. Got something on your mind? Give Bill a shout at 541-770-5633. 770 KMED. I was reading the Road Valley Times the other day.

I think it was last night. I saw this. Maybe it was this morning. Yeah, actually, I think the op-ed or the letter to the editor was actually published yesterday morning. I was reading this one. And it has to do with the, in my opinion, the nasty piece of work that was working, and they still be working over at School District 6. You know, the central point of school district 6. Remember, in the wake of Charlie's death, Charlie Kirk's death, there were all these people, many progressives that were just... shall we say unwisely just blathering their lack of brain cell material, you know, out onto social media. Hey, it happens on the right wing, too, so it's not just specifically left wing. But it's interesting, though, that the left wing, rather, tends to think that there is a God-given right to be able to blather what you want and keep a job. And that's where I kind of tend to break with this.

But be that as me, there was a letter to the editor that says, educators don't give up right to free speech. and Marty Haas from Eagle Point writes I had never heard of Charlie Kirk before the day he was killed I had no preconceived opinion as to whether he was a good or bad guy what I have learned since his death is maybe realized that I do not agree with most of what he stood for and preached that doesn't surprise me okay but still I resisted the temptation to speak out about his killing

hoping that this might be the turning point but in an article in the Saturday paper about a teacher's aide at Crater High being suspended and investigated for remarks she posted online about the killing of Charlie Kirk, it may be realized that saying silent is no longer an option. This is a blatant attack on the First Amendment right of every person living in this country, and I find it unconscionable that a school district would be taking such an action. What are we teaching our children when the person responsible for educating them

are not allowed to publicly state their beliefs on certain topics? How can we teach our children to be free thinkers to listen to all sides of a topic before forming opinions to make up their own minds about important decisions they must make to stand up for what is right when the institutions tasked with teaching them punish their employees for exercising their constitutional rights? Walt Davenport, the district superintendent said about the incident, we're handling it in accordance to our policies and procedures. If the policies and procedures of any school district can fringe upon the rights of any employee or student, rights which are guaranteed by the Constitution, then those policies need to be changed. Are educators, including teachers' age,

do not give up their constitutional rights when they are hired? No, you are right. They don't give up their constitutional rights. But the constitutional right, though, and this is where I think I would disagree with Marty on this one, I think the difference is that no one is guaranteed a job. And especially no one is guaranteed a taxpayer-funded job that the rest of us are forced to pay for. And I think that, especially when we're sending our little kids over into the yellow school bus, the friendly little school bus, to get a load of things, is it okay to have a higher moral standard?

Because Marty tends to be looking at this, in my opinion, through the lens of politics. I'm trying to tone down the politics as I look through this. I'm looking at this through the lens of morality. And I think what is more concerning to me about many teachers who have been setting themselves on fire, sort of self-immolating themselves, or self-immolation on the web, on the interwebub. it um it astounds me to see the lack of a moral compass or the lack of a firm grasp of reality i guess maybe that's uh that's what i'm looking at and the thought that a teacher's aid or a teacher of a government school could be so unhinged gave me pause

Didn't like President Obama. I hated everything about his presidency. He wasn't a real big fan of most of it. But I never would have reveled in either his death or someone who thought that, you know, who was a supporter of President Obama being gunned down in cold blood. I'm separating, you know, politics from just plain old, morality. And maybe this is the issue where, you know, many of the left are kind of looking

at this world through just government. As long as government does it, it's kind of okay. I just wanted to remind people, though, what this teacher's aide posted. Allegedly, because this has not been confirmed, but I'm going to figure enough people have sent the same post to me. I'm going to take it for real. I think everyone has their own hard line, right? The hill that we are willing to die on. My line, my hill is that I will never support or tolerate or sympathize with a bigot, racist, and or rapist. And they can fall into any one or all three of those categories.

And I will never have sympathy for them no matter what happens to them, not a zilch. and just a foreshadow for all of you debating on whether you want me or want to delete me because I don't feel sympathy for C.K. Charlie Kirk, know this about me. The day that the rapist in chief that is destroying this country finally dies, I will absolutely be celebrating that death. I can't wait till he takes his last breath. But that's how I feel about rapists and sexual predators like him. Now, this is a person who is helping within the government school system. We are forced to pay through taxation the salaries of someone who, from what I can tell, A, is incredibly misinformed. You can have the opinion of rapist in chief.

I don't recall there being any conviction, do you? I'm just talking about, you know, as a real thing. And, of course, in her mind's eye, Charlie Kirk is a bigot and a racist. So that means he can be killed and I am not sympathetic, I being this teacher's aide. To me, that shows a real lack of moral understanding, a real lack of morality, a real lack of morality, a real lack. This is not politics. This is about morality. She's don't, well, it's a bigot, racist, kill him.

And she apparently conflates this and goes up the scale of in. Trump, rapist, rapist in chief, literal Hitler. She didn't say that, but you can kind of know this is where this is going. But a rapist in chief, literal Hitler, must be killed. Or if he's killed, so what? I will sit there in dance on the grave. that kind of thing i think it's okay to look at someone who is that morally unbound and emotionally unhinged and say maybe we okay maybe you should go and pull the lever down at some coffee shack and

and then say do you want biscotti with that rather than teaching the kids is that too much to ask is that a reasonable way of looking at this the first thing amendment is that yes, the government cannot restrict your speech. That doesn't mean that the government has to reward your speech and keep you employed in a government position. I'm just raising the potential issue here. Maybe you can let me know. In other words, none of us is able to escape the controversy of what speech we do engage in, especially in the social media world. And yeah, most people, if they have half a brain, self-edit, and apparently this teacher's aide does not have half a brain.

and probably should not be involved with children. That's how I see this. But maybe I'm wrong. Let me know. 7705-633. Happy to talk with you about that or anything else in your mind. Hi, good morning. Who's this?

Welcome. Brian, well then. Brian, what's going on? Well, I have a huge pebble in my shoe today. What's that? For actually quite more days than today. Even on the news of this radio channel, just a few minutes ago, we are constantly being, well, the media just, you know, if anybody is trying to tell the truth over this recall of these two commissioners, we get attacked for being harassing.

And it's just ridiculous. It's all lies. It's exactly like the lies that are being told about the two commissioners. We're out here trying to tell the truth. and every form of the media will say on the news that we are somehow harassing these people. How are you doing it? Telling lies. Now, how are you?

Now, is there one way or are there potentially individuals? So it sounds like people are being hassled at the signature, at the signature gathering spots, right? All we're trying to do is tell the truth when they constantly lie to people about Chris Barnett and Andres Blach. Okay, well, the thing is, you can be telling the truth, but, you know, they don't have to be listening to you. Well, yeah. I mean, lies are protected. Hey, I'm just saying lies are protected political speech. They're claiming that they're being hassled.

And so, you know, that's what they're claiming. They're claiming that they're being hassled, right? Well, yeah. And then, you know, the media doesn't really go to the trouble. The news was here yesterday, Channel 5, and did a story. And what they do, they took a story from us, and they took a story from them, and they went with them on the news. It's just, the media just, they love to decide with anything that's really controversial, whether or not. Well, that's called it if it bleeds, it leads. That's if it bleeds, it leads, okay?

There is a difference of opinion in Josephine County, is there or not? yes okay but but but every they they you know the people who what i'm trying to get at you it's not that i'm not sympathetic to your point of view though i don't think that the people that are doing the recall you know should be you are should be forced or hassled in any way if that's what's going on i'm not saying that there is okay i'm not i'm not saying that but they don't have to listen to you okay No, but they, you know, we're just trying to tell people the truth instead of listening. Okay, put, okay, put up, okay, how are you telling them the truth?

Are you going up to them, you, are you going up to them at their recall position thing and arguing with them? What are you doing? No, people that walk up to the booth, we catch them at our tent, which is 10, 15, 20 feet away. Oh. And we explain and hand them paperwork of what the truth is here. Okay, then what's the problem? this before you sign the lie. Okay.

What's the problem? What's the problem? Yeah. The media goes with the lie. Okay. All right. So, now, are they saying, are they, now, you see, no, I don't know if that's necessarily a lie.

They're claiming that you are hassling them, right? That's right, but it would appear that you are. You are criticizing their point of view. That's okay. It's free speech. So what? Well, you know, Charlie Kirk tried to tell the truth to these young kids all who, for the last 10 years. And look what happened to him.

Okay. All right. All I'm saying is that I just look at this as the standard Josephine County operating way. You're not all getting along at this point from the sounds of it. Yeah. All right. Yeah. I don't always say, but that is the controversy.

The controversy apparently is that there is disagreement. How about that? Oh, my goodness. Also controversy. We're going to talk with former state senator Herman Berichick about this in just a moment. There's another controversy. The way the media portrayed the Ethics Commission wrap up. I'll have a talk with Herman about that afternoon.

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Herman, check in any time you want it. I want to get to the bottom of that, that ethics story that came out of the media. Of course, the other latest controversy seems to be about what's going on in Josephine County, and there's a real difference of opinion. And you heard Brian Weldon talk about that a few minutes ago, that K.OBI comes up, you know, the news comes up, and they're talking to them. You have the recall people that are claiming they're being. hassled by the anti-recall people, and Brian said that, well, you know, we're trying to get the

truth out there. As long as you're, well, of course, I don't know, what is harassment? I don't know. Let me go take a call on that. You want to the way in on that? Hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome.

Hi, my name is Karen. Hi, Karen. Are you part of the anti-recall forces or the pro-recall forces? What say you? I'm doing, I'm trying to do my part, yes. Okay, well, yes, yes, recall, yes, or no recall? No recall. Okay, so you're a no on the recall. Okay, great. So you're not about wanting to sign the petition. Okay, so what is going on out there from your point of view?

So from my point of view, they have every right to have a booth in the public space to collect signatures. Is this all going on at the farmer's market where this is going on or someplace else? There's a farmer's market, and then there's in front of the post office downtown. Oh, okay. All right, fine. So, yeah, so we have every right to have a booth next to them that says, hey, this is an opposing viewpoint. So we have a booth next to them with an opposing viewpoint, or we show them the facts, and including Andreas's white letter, which you, I think, been pervy to also. Yeah. So we can sit there when people come up or go by, and they're trying to get people to sign this recall, all we're doing is informing these people when they come up or come, you know, to this, hey, read this.

There's some things they're not telling you. This is the truth of what's going on. And even if we were to stand there with T-shirts that say no on the recall or support commissioners, they would be crying, oh, this is harassment because you're next to me, because you're near me in a public space. Now, is that what is happening, though? That's what I'm curious about. As far as I know, as far as I've seen personally, I haven't seen anyone like, go up and verbally harass someone else at the booth or anything like that.

Okay, so we don't have people that are going up from the anti-recall and going over to the pro-recall booth and saying, hey, don't sign that, don't sign that, don't go in there, don't do that kind of stuff. There's none of that going on? I can't say that I've personally seen that. I'm not there all the time. Oh. I imagine that having two opposition viewpoints,

you're going to have people go, hey, come over here and listen to what we have to say. Of course, that's probably going to happen. But I also know for a fact that some of the people that are against the recall have had to move their cars where there's security cameras because they've had incidences with their cars. So there's been other incidences besides that. When you have two opposing viewpoints in that way, of course, there might be incidences of people not being happy with each other that's going to happen. But I have not personally seen anybody do anything more. than say, hey, come over here, look at our viewpoint, too. Come see the other half of what, you know, the information is given in our viewpoint as well,

which is part of our freedom of speech to do, is to go into a public space and go, we have a different viewpoint. We want to show you the truth of what's going on. And it seems to me we have every right to do that. Yeah. Now, if you're standing by there with an anti-recall T-shirt or something like that, I think that almost, although it's not an election. under a strict interpretation of the way they look at this.

You know, there are ways they talk about how even at a polling place wearing a candidate's t-shirt as an example would be a form of electioneering. And I'm kind of wondering if this is where the pro-recall people are kind of looking at this. They're seeing a bunch of folks that are against the recall. By the way, I just wanted to know that I'm on the record is that I am against the recall. Maybe not for the reason why the Josephine County Republican Party folks are against this. or what you're and I'm nor am I for it like the other side of this because I think we just have to have somebody serve a term out before we can really pass judgment and go whole hell

and just go you know right whole crazy on it it's like nobody is even getting a chance right to serve out even a good part of a term before we can find out whether or not there is someone really engaging in something nefarious. I totally agree with you, and I do want to point out something also. We're not doing this in front of somewhere where someone is making an elective decision. We're doing this in a place where they're trying to collect signatures to even get it to the elected position, or get it on the ballot. So this is an initiative they're trying to push. It's not the actual election.

Right. This is just to get it. This is just to try to whether they're going to figure out if there's going to be a recall election or not. And so Josephine County can spend, what, another 50, what is it, 50 or 60 grand? I think the cost to do these. Well, and people should know that. See, that's the thing that we're trying to do is inform people of the actual, the cost of what actually is done, the savings that the commissioners have actually done for us.

And they're being basically recalled for doing what is actually in their job description. And it's fair to the public to have an opposing viewpoint because that's what we're supposed to do in a republic. And I would agree with you. And I would agree with you on this. Now, we can disagree about the methodology. You can disagree about some of the wisdom of decisions being made. But, you know, to me, the recall is a blunt force trauma instrument that should be used for gross illegality and malfeasance of office.

And really what we're talking about, though, is that we're talking about hurt feelings. A lot of people with hurt feelings in this situation. What it does also is it sets a precedent that anybody that goes against somebody or has an opposing viewpoint can be recalled until they finally get somebody in there who has their, you know, their opinions. But that's supposed to be for the voter box, not for recall. So that's just what I wanted to point out. Okay, well, thank you for giving your perspective on this, too.

And I'm not saying that, you know, that I don't like recalls. I don't like recall. Well, I don't like recalls in general unless you've got really, really, really, really big problems. What of this is that we have an opinion, a difference of opinion in Josephine County about how to accomplish it. And there have been a lot of people who have had their ox gore in the reorganization of government issue going on. I agree. And I think this is being exploited to say, well, okay, well, yeah, we voted the bastards in in November. Now we let's recall the bastards out.

You know, again, it seems to be, you know, kind of what's going on. And I would hope that cooler heads would prevail. Let them serve for a while. get a longer period of time to be able to judge something. We're talking seven, eight months since they got in there, which is barely a blink in the world of politics. Yeah, when it comes to trying to get anything done from the commissioners, and I've seen this firsthand, there's a lot of red tape.

There's a lot of things that have to be done just to have anything initiated, no less accomplished. All right. Hey, I appreciate your call, and thank you very much for that. Have a good day. All right. 7705-633-770 K-M-E-D. Dale writes me, Bill, this morning about the freedom of speech.

Morning Bill, I equate freedom of speech as being similar to free will. We each of us have both. However, there are consequences for misuse and abuse of those freedoms. As for comments about the assassination of Charlie Kirk, it is definitely a sign of evil for someone wishing another person's death and the celebration of that death through words or deeds. There's only one death we can celebrate and that person came back to life within three days. What he did for us is to be celebrated, but not for what any imperfect human dies from or for.

We can celebrate the person, but not the loss of the life of that person, even though we may know where he will spend eternity, okay? You and I had a short discussion on this subject a bit before the events of September 10th and following. To me, it affirms my stance on the subject of freedom of speech and freedom of actions. A person can do what he or she wants, but there are consequences either good or evil. This is Dale from Medford, who's writing, Dale, no doubt you are referencing once again the Central Point teacher. And I would reference that what I brought up here was that obviously you have someone who is arguably not particularly well-informed and yet in the educational community and celebrating the death of people. I will not, Charlie Kirk is a bigot, Charlie Kirk is a racist, hence he must die. I will not, you know, be upset about that.

And I got to tell you, if there was a tidy righty teacher's aide in there, and they were saying something back during the Obama administration or Joe Biden, Joe Biden administration, I hope the withered old prune is killed today. And I wouldn't, you know, this guy has absolutely no business, you know, pushing the communism and everything like that. I would feel the same thing about that. Maybe you don't need to be in the climate. classroom being the voice of reason teaching the kids. And I would think that might be a way to look at what's happening with the teacher's aide,

the embattled teachers aid in Central Point District 6. Just speculating, one would hope there would be a little bit better judgment and also reading the room a little bit better of what's acceptable or what's not. Because once again, you know, I just can't go on social media and say absolutely every thought that comes in my mind. Because if I embarrass my employer, I can be fired like that. I have no contract. I'm just an at-will, an out-will person.

If I were to go out there and if I were going to tell you, I have a feeling that if I went out there and I was just saying, boy, I'll tell you, I'm glad that that, you know, that Charlie Kirk got killed. I'm sure they would cancel me out too in spite of the fact that, yeah, we make money for the company and do, various other things. I'm going to brag. I'm just talking about reality here.

Everybody has bosses. Yes, even unionized teachers ultimately have bosses. KMED, good morning. This is Bill. Who's this? Hey, Bill. Good morning. It's deplorable Patrick. D.P. You got a cold?

No, I'm inside to the public area, so I don't, I'm not talking as well as I usually do. Oh, okay. These idiot teachers, you know, they want to conflate the thing about not feeling sympathy for Charlie Kirk's death. They want to conflate that with expressing approval of his death, and then they spread that to the kids. And then we wonder why the kids come out of school being a little throat-punching Antifa activists or at least leaning in that direction so many. Not a fan of teachers or college professors.

Second topic real quickly, this thing with the intermittent power from Pacific power. Yes. They're a public utility. They have a responsibility to provide a service. Let me say, if you bought a ticket to go to L.A. on the Greyhound bus, and you got on the bus, and the bus driver said, you know, I really don't feel like driving the bus today. And where you're just going to sit there? How would that go over? Not very well.

So I think we should have a class action lawsuit against PPNL and say you do your job. You have the public utility status that nobody can compete with you. Now you have to do your job. All right, Patrick. Appreciate the call. It could be a tough one because the Public Utility Commission is really the governing authority. But I'll think about that. Let me grab one more.

Hi, good morning. Who's this? Hello? Hello? Hi, who's this? Hi, this is Holly Morton, Josephine County. Hey, Holly. How are you doing? I'm doing okay, thank you.

On the subject of recalls, you know, it is incumbent upon the people who do the recalls to be truthful. And we've had in the past a problem where they say a lot of things that aren't true, get people all riled up. And in the case of John West, certainly, there were many untruths spoken. and they managed to get him recalled. So when we elected the commissioners, I had people literally coming up to me and saying, well, we're going to get them recalled.

I mean, five minutes after they were recalled within two weeks. Oh, yeah, that was the decision. We knew that that was happening right away. Yeah, I remember that. Yeah, we were going to recall them. So what's happening now is that they were able with Dawn West to really sort of work with impunity. They just got out there.

They said anything, and it wasn't contested. And I think citizens recognize that you have to get out there when somebody is saying things that aren't true and present the other side. But how are they presenting it is the question that I'm asking, because that seems to be where the conflict's coming. Well, I did not see when I was out there. I went to the farmer's market,

and I just stopped by to say hello, and I did not see anyone at that time. arguing with one another, but I heard that there were a number of people actually coming from the recall, pro-recall booth, and screaming at people to the point where the police had to be called. So now that's how they're resorting. Everybody's trying to get their message higher than the other. They're using the police in order to, you know, try to keep those who are opposing the recall from having equal say. And that, you know, we're starting to get to a place where we're just not digging for truth, that what we're doing is we're just trying to put

our political agenda forward. So we're getting to the place where we're using a recall to overturn elections. And these are very carefully choreographed recalls. They're trying to get the signatures, and the elections should they get the signatures, will be about the mid to late part of December. And generally speaking, the nastiness of this particular reason. recall campaign. This is just my opinion, okay? I don't have a dog in this fight. I just understand. I'm not a resident of Joe County, but I'm not a fan of the recall because of the blunt political instrument

that this is, and these people have just barely gotten in, okay? Now, you talk to me a couple of years down the road or something like that, and you're thinking that there's a lot of malfeasance going on fine. Okay, maybe we can have a conversation. It's supposed to be about really, really big stuff, not the fact that we haven't liked these people since they got in, and we already plan to get them out. Right. Okay. There's a disagreement in what they have to do to balance the budget.

That's right. Pretty much what the problem is. So it's not a matter of illegality or that kind of thing. It's a matter of, you know, how people think things should be done. But as far as transparency is concerned, we're very fortunate in our county because every week we have the opportunity to go in and sit down at a commissioner meeting, listen to them, talk about things. We can go in and speak to them.

I think you get three minutes. You know, I've done it many, many times. go into their office, sit down and talk with them. I've done that many times. I couldn't begin to count the number of times I've gone in and sat down or called on the phone to clarify things or make suggestions or whatever. We fortunately have a very open commissioners group. But that kind of flies in the face of the narrative of, you know, lack of transparency. You know, you can accuse someone of lack of transparency, but if you're not going into the office to have a discussion or letting your concerns be known,

specifically. I mean, I sit in a commissioner meeting, and a lot of times I hear people come in and they say, you're a lack of transparency. Well, I would like to hear specifically what the concern is, not a broad brush statement, specifically what the concern is. And then in our meetings, the commissioners will then answer that. But there are some things that you can't answer. You can't answer personnel issues in public forum? No, you can't. You cannot talk about personnel issues. It's a very slippery slope, anyway. So, I mean, I just think this is a mess, and I think people are fighting very hard, but I do feel that people are using the recall process to overturn election. And these elections were

really won by a considerable margin. I know... Well, what I didn't get a chance to complete my thought, though, Holly, on this, is that you had a big turnout election in which the current board that's in there, one, okay, they're in there. The recall will be done over, if this happens, over a Christmas period, a very little political import, and that's designed so that a very small group of activists end up having their way with the system rather than, you know, a repeat of what happened in the 2024 November election. Okay? That's how I see it.

Very small amount. It was really ridiculous what happened with John West. And now they're using that and saying, well, we got one commissioner out. That's now their modus operandi. Now every time, you know, you get somebody in that they, it doesn't have their same political views. They run a recall. Yeah, that's it. Holly, appreciate the take.

Thanks for that. Holly Morton is a former Josephine County Republican Party chair. I'll grab one more call me for news. Hi, good morning. Who's this? This is Minor Day. Sorry to change the subject about politics, but the doctor you had on interested me because when I was younger, they diagnosed me with epilepsy that later on they determined I didn't

have. Then they diagnosed me as hyperactivity and developmental. But when I turned 58, they diagnosed me with Asperger's. That doesn't surprise me. That makes sense, given what you've described, how things have gone for you over the years. And it makes you wonder, though, because this doctor, of course, has been looking at supplements and amino acids and various other things to try to step up mitochondrial function and thinking that a lot of these syndromes are caused by that. My mom gave me all that stuff. When I was a kid, I was taking as many vitamins as I was taking drugs.

vitamins and minerals my mom said it was important for me to have it and you know there were horse pills back in those days oh yeah and i gag on i gag on taking pills i can't help it because i took so many when i was a kid but you know they now consider me high-functioning with a high IQ and that i'm not developed male that's good but still perhaps if earlier you have been able to have something like that treated from this doctor or someone like him or her, you know, that might have been more helpful, but we're learning more as time goes on. He's been doing this for like 20, 30 years. Appreciate the call, Dave, KMED, KMED, HD1, Eagle Point, Metford, KBXG, Grants Pass.

Diana Anderson is back here. She's putting on more events. He's all about trying to stop the global escourge. I don't know if the global escourge has anything to do with the call fever going on here in Southern Oregon. I don't know, but we'll talk with her about this. a few minutes. Town Hall News is also on the way.