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Episode Date: September 24, 2025

09-24-25_WEDNESDAY_8AM

The Bill Myers Show podcast is sponsored by Klausur drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausor drilling.com. And we have Greg, who's over in Idaho. How are you doing this morning, Greg? You wanted to the way in. Hi, I can't take it anymore. I've got to make a statement about all this back and forth on the government is trying to shut down,

what's his name, that said, who lied on the air. I mean, pure face lie, insinuation. and I don't even like saying their name. They don't deserve it. Okay. I want to go back in history, and people forget things, but I remember them. I remember back in the late 60s, there was a Democrat on a, I forgot what committee he was on. Fortunately, I don't remember his name.

He's lost to history. And they attacked a specific television show on the air. They had this stupid thing going on about violence on television. Oh, the violent television shows are causing all this violence. Of course, a couple of decades later, they blamed computer games. Oh, by the way, don't, oh, hey, not just computer games, though. You also have to remember heavy metal music in the 1980s, too. Oh, that, too, yeah.

Both, but I remember the thing with the computer games. And they specifically pinpointed the Wild Wild West and stated, and this guy threatened the network saying, And to take this show off the air, it's far too violent. Of course, the person threatening was a Democrat, and the person who starred in the show, Robert Conrad, was a Republican. I'm sure there was nothing personal involved with this. I mean, history not only rhymes, it does repeat itself.

And here we go again. I just wanted to say, this is nothing new. And what's happened in the past is far worse than what's going on now. And they took the show off the air. They caved. All right. Now, are you thinking... We would have a fifth season of the Wild Wild West.

Okay, now, I forgot about that, yeah, with Artemis, Gordon, and all the rest of the way. Robert Conrad. Boy, boy, talk about an LSD flashback you give me right about now here, Greg. I haven't thought about that show forever. I was on the cusp of becoming a teenager, so I remember all that stuff. Yeah. Well, see, I was into trains. I've always been into trains.

So for me, I think I was more impressed with the Secret Service car, you know, on the back of the train back of the day. Hey, well, you know, are you thinking then, ultimately, Greg, in Idaho, that we are partying like it's 1968 again, or are we tiptoeing toward that or not? Yeah, I think there's a lot of comparisons to 68, a Democrat convention and all that that went on. I just wanted to bring this up that people think, oh, this is terrible, this, look at what's happening now. Well, this has gone on for decades, a decade. I mean, 60, almost 70 years. Well, we're not anywhere close to matching the amount of political assassination and violence of the 1960s. 1960s really was kind of the peak of a lot of that.

We'll see. Oh, yes, sure was. All right. History rhymes, too, repeats and rhymes. I appreciate the call, Greg. Always good having you on, all right? 7705-633. You're welcome to join in.

Congress and Cliffbent's in a few minutes, too. Need a roof that performs and lasts? The Bill Myers Show on 1063, KMED. 25 after 8. Some emails of the day before Congressman Benz comes in here. We'll kick around some issues of U.S. and Oregon District of Second Concern. Emails of the day, sponsored by Dr. Steve Nelson, Central Point Family Dentistry. CentralPointFamily Dentistry.com.

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I've had so many people writing me with great takes on things the last couple of days. Let me see if I can get one in there. Betty writes me about even immunizations Hey Bill So six siblings Right after each other Mumps and then measles We lived with the drapes closed for weeks

Okay so that's what I was talking about Yeah we just had this stuff Patrick writes me Deplorable Patrick says hey Bill The Connected Antenna for the Future Aluminum foil cover metal paint cover Okay Had that DL write me this morning

morning. Bill, I haven't heard you bring much attention to the Charlie Kirk assassination accepted for a small piece from the beginning of your show. Actually, I've talked quite a bit about Charlie off and on, but not as much as the nationals, I suppose. But D.L. says, I am calling BS on the FBI's narrative. Been a hunter, a big part of my life and so many of my friends and family. I ask the question of all hunters that I know that use a 30-od-6. Have you ever had a bullet stay inside of the animal using a 30-odd-6? This would include elk, deer, and moose, the The answer is repeatedly no, especially if Charlie was hit in the neck or head. This Tim guy is a patsy for the murder. I guess we'll find out deal, okay? Richard writes me about the Postal Service, Bill. I ordered some stamps at a bit of shipping supplies from the United States Postal Service. I got the order two days ago. Today I received an email telling me the order has been shipped.

Way to go, USPS on the ball as usual. Wonder when I will get an email telling me the order was delivered. that's a good one thank you Richard Granny writes me this morning and not real happy with Lucretia's call from the other day about the devil horn remember that's been the other conspiracy out there that Erica Kirk was flashing the devil horn sign out there

and that was blown up pretty quickly and what this was is that it's also a symbol for I love you in sign language okay and that's what it ended up being Had John write me, Bill, I really enjoyed your interview yesterday with the guest about autism. I was a bit surprised that the doctor wasn't quite as sure about the terrible increase in autism rates as you and I. I'm a bit older than you and can't even remember any concern about autism until about 30 years ago. I think that probably the over-inoculating of the little kids is a connection is a major cause.

It is not talked about, but the autism industrial complex makes it even worse. Too many school nurses, teachers, and doctors have their own reasons to diagnose little kids with autism. I think poor parenting could also be a cause. A little boy that is a slow learner and a handful gets put on some drugs, and he becomes just what autism is all about. John, I appreciate your take on it. Thank you very much. And let me see. Jack writes, Bill, who controls media?

It's about time that the legacy media learns that, one, the American people determine what we want to. watch. Two, the power of the purse through supporting or denying legacy media's advertisers will decide on programming and who presents it. Three, additionally, words have meaning. Words have meaning to outcomes that can affect the bottom line in a negative or positive manner. And four, finally, free speech is not relevant in this area, but in this arena, rather, but speech is subjected to the scrutiny of those who pay for the entertainment, watch the entertainment and either is approved or disapproved of the content regardless of how it is presented. All right.

Jeff writes me this morning about free speech. Matthew 1234, Matthew 1, 2, 3, 4, okay. Oh, generation of vipers, how can ye being evil speak good things for out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaketh. Jeff says the issue is not free speech. The issue is that this teacher's aide, this is the teacher's aid I was talking about yesterday, revealed their heart by their speech. To assume someone is a bigot, racist, fascist, et cetera, without proper research

and authentication of such charges is bigotry in and of itself. The school would do well to remove someone who would instill this type of bigotry into the students. John writes me, Bill, Josephine County, is there something in the water over there? Yeah, there's a lot of fighting, but hopefully they'll get it figured out. Aaron writes me about the guest yesterday, too. Given the importance of mitochondria, I wonder if your guest has looked into the relationship between mitochondria and other diseases, particularly those of the nervous system. It makes me, well, it makes me wonder at which there may be treatment for some forms of dementia with specific supplements. That's a really good question, Aaron.

And maybe I'll have the doctor back and we'll have another. talk about it. And Dave also floats another theory. Bill, could autism also be linked to multi-generational use of birth control pills? We need to include this in the problem. Do you, I don't know, it's an interesting theory once again. I'll have to fly and pass the medical types in the future, okay? Appreciate that. Email, Bill at Billmyershow.com. I'll grab a couple of calls. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome. Hey, Bill, it's Lucretia. Hi, Lucretia. Go ahead to be pithy. Okay, well, taking, going back to 1807, when Thomas Jefferson said nothing can be believed, can be believed, which is seen in the newspaper,

truth itself becomes suspicious by being put in that polluted vehicle. The real extent of the state of misinformation is known only by those who are in situations to confront facts within their knowledge with the lies of the day. Okay. Well, but we, you know, our government didn't lie to us about the Gulf of Tonkin incident. They didn't lie to us about bringing us into World War II. They knew the Japanese were coming, but they let our people get bombed, so we would then want to go to war. They knew that we weren't there to what, what, to the Gulf of Tompkins, that we created that incident. It was now known declassified.

But all we have to do is be told again and again. But all we have to do is be told again and again, right? Yeah, and so, you know, nothing fits the bill of this guy getting shot and all this blood coming out. And then this pyrotechnic stage show. Yeah, so what about the pyrotechnic stage so? And by the way, that was BS yesterday on the devil's horn, okay, the devil's sign. Well, we know that, you know, a lot of people, the pre-mation, what if this guy, Kurt, during traveling, the pastor, they brought to talk was disgusting.

There was no feeling of that he died. In fact, he says he'd always, he said something that made. All right, call me back on conspiracy theory Thursday. Maybe I'll let you talk about that, okay? Because I already said he had to be pithy, and we've gone beyond pithy already. All right. Hi, good morning. Who's this?

Quick one. Hi. This is Minor Dave. Quick. Two things. One is the bullet could have been a hollow point. and that wouldn't penetrate because they're not designed to penetrate. And secondly, they talk about aluminum causing a lot of, you know, problems.

All right. You know, people spray on them every, now I'm allergic to this. Quickly. They spray aluminum sulfate or magnesium sulfate all over their bodies as an antipersprane. Could be a cause of all this shit. Okay. Thank you for the S-bomb. Let me hit the dump button.

Thank you, Minor Dave, because we do follow FCC rules here, okay? It is 834. Good Guys Guns is having... You're hearing the Bill Myers Show on 1063 KMED. It's 838, and Congressman Cliff Bence is in studio. Congressman is a pleasure having you back in. What are you in town for? I know you came in yesterday.

I saw you on some of the other media outlets and things. What's going on? Well, we're continuing our traveling around the district and going to different places to talk to folks about challenges they're facing. We're trying to go to each hospital in the district. So yesterday we went to Asante and to Providence. We're trying to go to other medical providers and we're asking them to tell us how they think they're going to be affected as the big beautiful bill is phased in. I know that there has been a lot of complaining about Medicaid. especially we're hearing, and of course, I'm just going to give me my take on this.

Every time I hear them talk about Medicaid cuts, which is Oregon Health Plan, they always talk about people in Oregon who are going to suffer cuts to their health care. And I think that that's being specifically done because they're not really talking about United States citizens if I understand correctly. Am I wrong about that when I see that kind of conversation? Well, they could be thinking about it in that depth, I'm not sure, but the law does not cover, when I say the law, the federal law does not allow or provide for Medicaid for people who are here without the benefit of citizenship. So they could be talking about persons as opposed to citizens, but part of what we did in the big bill was to say that every state will check every six months to see if the folks that are on Medicaid are qualified and eligible to be on. Medicaid. And that's because for years, Oregon and other states did not, particularly during

COVID. And as a result, the number of people in the program that are not eligible exploded. And we've huge numbers of folks that simply are not eligible. And over, we took a huge expansion then. You're saying Oregon took a huge expansion. And so shrinking it back down to where it was before and these are cuts we can't live with or not? Well, the, let me just share some numbers. because that's an unusual thing in these conversations. Generally, it's just wide, broad, general statements. There are 1,440,000 people in Oregon on Medicaid. 1,440,000.

So that's roughly 1.5 million people on Medicaid. The studies by the OBO, the Office of Budget, in D.C., suggest that in Oregon, about 170,000 people out of that 1.4 million will be affected by the big bill. of the 170,000 people, roughly 20% are here illegally and should not be paid for by the federal government. So roughly 35,000, they're not supposed to be on that anyway. It's a smaller number, but it's some number like that. Okay.

Then it's also estimated by the budget office that about another third are making too much money to enjoy Medicaid coverage. And so those people would also fall off the insurance rolls. And the last group and the largest group of that $170,000 will be those who choose not to work the 20 hours a week or volunteer the 20 hours week. Because there is a work now. There's a work requirement. And the idea, it hasn't taken effect yet. But when it does, then there will be a group of people that simply won't want to work.

And they will fall out of coverage. And so I guess you can lead a horse to water. But the point is these people have to be able-bodied. If you're not able-bodied, you don't have to work. But if you are able-bodied, then the work requirement applies to you. So nothing changes for people who are disabled or elderly or nothing changes for a huge amount of the people that are covered. And so this constant chatter about gutting the program, about stripping the program is simply incorrect. The number of people affected by the big bill of the 1.4, almost 1.5 million folks on Medicaid and Oregon is somewhere around 10, 11%.

The rest, nothing changes except they do have to prove eligibility every six months. And that's handled by the state. So people are saying, well, it's like filing your tax return. That would not be true. The state of Oregon knows better, I hope. And those who remain disabled and have to go through this, it should be an extraordinarily simple. matter and the state's in charge of that okay we're going to shift gears from Medicaid and Medicaid by the way anytime you hear Medicaid just translated to

Oregon Health Plan okay now is the state well I guess before we go on is the state of Oregon though wishing or advocating for just keeping things as they are or do they understand the need that hey there's going to have to be some trimming of the of the Oregon Health Plan Bush well that's a really good question I think the state of Oregon's position is probably best expressed by our governor, right? And so Governor Kotech came out and said that what we're doing is going to place Oregon in difficult financial straits because Oregon will want to cover those who are ineligible at the federal level because Oregon is already trying to cover folks that are

ineligible, folks that are here without the benefit of paperwork, folks that perhaps are making too much money to qualify. Okay, that is an extraordinarily expensive effort if the state decides to continue to do that. My understanding has been that the state is regretting already covering people before the bill goes into effect that are not qualified and have not been covered. But Bill, I want to say one thing about this. This entire conversation that is being driven by Salem and by the governor about how we need more and more and more welfare, why isn't she talking about the need to have more

jobs, more opportunity to get out of the welfare situation? Why isn't she talking about that? And I think that's a pretty sensitive subject up in Salem because, I mean, honestly, I think we know that, at least from my point of view, is that Salem and especially the governing authority is not particularly friendly to business creation and or regulatory state here. You look at the various companies which have left between, you know, Dutch bros and Intel and all sorts of various others. It's, you know, the boat's getting kind of leaky here. And so I guess they'd rather say, why aren't we getting our free money? Why aren't we getting more welfare? And that to say that Oregon is not particularly friendly to business is the understatement of the week.

Oregon is terribly unfriendly to business. And that's starting to come home to roost to the detriment of the people, the one-third of Oregonians who are on Medicaid. Now, by the way, Medicaid is an absolutely essential program, particularly where you can't get into the woods and get a job, where you can't get into the rare earth minerals and get a job where you can't get a housing to you this is Oregon is doing a horrible job when it comes to trying to protect the very businesses that would get give people the opportunity to not have to use Medicaid but if you have to use the Medicaid program you want to make sure though that that only the the people who really needed the most are on it I mean there just have to be some standards otherwise you

just bankrupt us I guess what there are standards they just haven't been enforced in Oregon has been one of the worst states. I think it's the third most Medicaid-dependent state in the nation. And it may be the first one, for all I know, it varies. But the point is we need to understand why a third of Oregonians are Medicaid, and the answer is because Oregon is horribly unfriendly to business. Congress and Cliffman's with me this morning. I had a listeners submit this question, and I want to run it by you here. It said, can you please ask the congressman about section 453 of the budget bill that would give pesticide companies a liability shield and freeze the labeling requirements as they are today. And what the listener is talking about is that

85 pesticides are banned abroad, remain legal in the United States, it may now be shielded from lawsuits. It would also freeze EPA warning labels at the 1993 standards. And Bayer and ChemChina would gain de facto immunity from any kind of accountability. And it said, I guess they're concerned about setting a liability precedent shield, you know, for various industries. Do you know anything about this? Well, I don't know enough about it. I know that I knew when I reviewed the bill that we had a provision that was going to protect and try to reduce the number of lawsuits in that space.

The exact extent and nature of the exemption I have not studied. But I do support the use of pesticides. I do support the value that they bring to. and the necessary value that they bring to producing food in this country. The fact that other countries may have banned them, well, I haven't looked at those studies. I think we do a great job in trying to protect against the damages that pesticides can do, and the liability protections that are in the bill are there to try to reduce the amount of frivolous lawsuits that go with pesticide applications.

but the exact nature and extent I would have to check of that liability protection I would have to check into. Could you get back to me, maybe have your staff, let me know, because I know it's one of those things where, hey, this is a question, so I wanted to make sure and submit it, but I wasn't sure it's pretty granular, you know, in this budget bill. It is, and there are literally hundreds of provisions in, you're talking about the great big bill. That's the bill you're talking about. No, I think it was coming up in the budget bill. Oh, it's in the budget bill. So, well, we will check and see exactly what the nature and extent of that particular provision is. Okay.

Get back to you. All right. I appreciate that. All right. So we'll have an answer to that a bit later. What about power generation here? I've been talking a lot about what is going on here in Oregon. Of course, there's talk about, you know, Pacific Power ended up, you know, getting their wildfire infrastructure paid for by the other folks, by their rate payers rather than the,

investors, that may be something beyond the scope of Congress. Is there anything coming out of Congress that actually create more power rather than, shall we say, more intermittent and chaotic stuff on the grid? Because everything in Oregon right now seems to be about, you know, how much intermittent can we put on it and call it good. Right. So I spent a great deal of time in Congress trying to get on to the Energy, the E&C Committee and Energy and Commerce.

And the reason, of course, is that energy is extremely extraordinarily important to everybody in my district, everybody in the United States, everybody in the world. Energy is the thing. If we didn't have it, we'd go back to caveman times. So one should ask, what is the current supply generation of electricity situation in Oregon or Washington or the Northwest? And the short answer is, it's not good. It's bad. If we were to have a drought on the Columbia River system, we very probably would start seeing rolling blackouts,

the moment that we don't have enough water to fill in the gaps by hydrogeneration. And this is something that people haven't understood because people are accustomed to having enough power. Bill, we do not have enough electrical power. If you look at a graph and I have it available, if people want to see it at our office, It shows China's generation of electrical power in volume going straight up. It shows America's generation of electrical power completely flat.

Oh, it's flatlining. Yeah. You know, to your point, I'm looking at a graph that I ended up getting from visual capitalists the other day. It says where new United States electricity is coming from this year next. And so they're going to add 126 gigawatts of capacity. Half of it is solar, which, of course, is gone when the sun is gone. 12% wind, 8% natural gas, 30% of it they call from batteries. Batteries are not a power source.

It's only a storage source for something else, and they're very expensive. So it seems like the United States is talking about, I complain about Pacific Power this way, seems to be about distributing shortage rather than really looking at baseload power. And is this something that can be approached on a national basis? I think the phrase is sharing misery equally. I think that's the phrase you're looking for. So the challenge in the power generation space right now, if it's not solar, is finding turbines to generate the power.

Because right now you have a five to seven year weight to get a turbine. And so a turbine spins, it generates the power. The turbines are being produced for the most part in China. so we're not getting turbines for China. But that's not the only thing. The batteries, like 80% of batteries now are made in China. And so if you look at where we've left ourselves because of all of the restrictions we've imposed upon our producers, while at the same time China aggressively, aggressively moving to drive everybody else out of business.

In fact, if you look at a Bloomberg article that just came out, last week, it talks about a number of venture capitalists and went over to China to take a look at what China was doing when it comes to these areas, whether it's solar production or whether it's wind production or whether it's battery production or whether it's rare earth mineral production. And they came back and they said, these venture capitalists that have the money, they're not going to invest in the United States when it comes to these things because we're too far behind China. And so when they say we're going to get a whole bunch of our storage from batteries, that means we're going to have to buy them from China, period. And that's not good.

That is bad. But setting that aside, the real issue is, why aren't we using the 200 years worth of natural gas that we have to generate the power we absolutely need to try to keep up? Well, I think you know why it's carbon, because anything that involves carbon here, Congressman, is not going to be considered. Well, look, even the natural gas is just a tiny part of the new energy low that they're talking about putting on the grid. Well, that's not going to work. We have to use natural gas. I'm going to, I'm going to say that I think we're going to see coal come back into vogue in this. Really? Yes, because there are ways now to store the CO2 underground. There are ways to go ahead and use clean coal. By the way, the coal we have here is far cleaner

than that which is being burned by the multiple train loads every day in China. So the challenge for all of us is to recognize, first of all, we have to have the power, the electrical power necessary to keep everybody's lights on in the northwest and we just barely have enough right now do you see that um you know what is your opinion about the uh growth of the a i farm you know the server farms here in the state of oregon because this is something that i think is irritating a lot of the uh we regular folks here at the same time we're talking oh yeah we're going to sign these contracts and then uh we're going to get all these big power uh contracts going into the server farms hundred and of course they grab power and they

take it continuously, while we, on the other hand, are supposed to go with our smart meter and be cold in the winter and hot in the summer. So let me just say that it's not a good thing that the normal everyday rate payer is going to have to bear the cost of higher prices driven in significant part by server farms. That's not a good thing. But that's not the point. The point is, why don't we have more electricity? Why don't we have as much electricity generation as China does?

And the short answer is because environmental organizations have basically made it impossible to use natural gas or coal. And by the way, the future is nuclear. There's no doubt of it. But the future is at least, at least 5 to 10 to 15 to 20 years away when it comes to nuclear. Well, that's the case. To your point then, 5 to 10, 15 years of natural gas use might get us there. That was always the idea that it would be a bridge power, that natural gas. anything that created CO2 would be a bridge to something cleaner.

That's always been the idea. What's happened that people truly don't recognize is the advent of these thinking computer chips that Navidia and other people are, well, Navidia is making. And this ability to generate, I hate to say thought, but knowledge by using these chips is absolutely existential to our nation, to our world. That's why you see everybody racing toward trying to get to the nirvana of having chips

that can do things that we never dream could be done at a speed that's hardly comprehensible. Is there a possibility then that the demand for the AI power will end up breaking the logjam of power? Because it just has to be. There's absolutely the thought that is. If we can get to the type of logic-driven machines that are these chips, and if we can keep advancing in having the power necessary to operate them because the electrical power needed to operate these chips is massive, then we will be able to win.

I'm going to put win in quotes, the battle for artificial intelligence. People cannot just dismiss this as a, oh, well, it'll be, you know, like a, you know, like a Sony transistor radio used to be back in the 60s. No, this is the real thing. And I'm happy to be on the committee in Congress that has people appearing before us at least once a week now talking about exactly these issues. This is, this is, and people can call it a canard or whatever they want to say about national security, but this is about national security.

The trouble with it is, Bill, we have given away so much to China already. it is astounding how dependent we have become upon China when it comes to the very things that are necessary to build a car. And that's why you saw President Trump carefully negotiating with China because China threatened to cut off those rare earth minerals that we need every day for just normal manufacturing. Okay, final question. We've got about one minute left and I turn into a pumpkin congressman, okay? All right, is there

looking like it's going to be shut down time or not? I think one minute here before we take off maybe just give us the lay of the land because this time it looks like democrats are wanting to do the shutdown well if democrats do the shutdown they will bear the consequences of all of the bad things like not paying our military that go with a shutdown so i hope we don't shut down i've been saying in my mind it's about a 60 40 thing i think we have 60% chance against shutting down 40% chance that we do next next week it's we passed the what's essentially a clean continuing resolution out of the house last week. And it's up to the Senate now. And frankly, it's up to seven Democrat senators if they want to shut

the government down or not. I hope they don't. We've passed the bill. They need to pass the bill. And we'll keep the Congress open until the 21st of November. All right. Congressman, appreciate you being in here. I turn into a pumpkin. We will talk to you next time. Thanks for coming in. Thank you. Thank you so much. It is 858. Can't get your son. Sponsored by Patriot Electric. You're off.