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Episode Date: September 25, 2025

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The Bill Myers Show podcast is sponsored by Klausur drilling. They've been leading the way in southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausor drilling.com. It is Conspiracy Theory Thursday. By the way, there is a piece of news which hasn't received a lot of promotion. But I think it is well worth celebrating. And this may be the beginning. This may be the beginning of the...

of the breakdown of Oregon's at least in a couple of arenas. I don't want to I don't want to overstate it, but I don't want to understate it either. Yesterday the news broke

on Oregon Live and other outlets that the state of Oregon has now sent immigration information everybody who was involved in getting emergency service on the Oregon Health Plan This is Medicaid.

You hear this talk about, oh, it's horrible, the incredible cuts on Medicaid. And Congressman Benz comes on, and he's talking about, hey, listen, there are a lot of these people aren't supposed to be on Medicaid in the first place, including non-citizens. Non-citizens are not supposed to be on the Oregon health plan. That's just it. There been the rule. But Oregon, of course, was taking a lot of that money and putting it in through the back door and doing it anyway. because, you know, the state of Oregon likes to give love to everyone equally, no matter, you know, whatever it is, even if you're, you know, not supposed to be here, you didn't follow the rules, you're here. Gosh darn it, we've got a government program. We're going to expand it.

And then the Trump administration says, hey, we can't afford to keep spending lots of money on people who aren't supposed to be here and people who are making too much money and people who are too lazy and won't work. If you're disabled, of course, you'll still get your Medicaid supplement, your Oregon health plan. But if you're just a bum and you want to sit around and play hacky sack in, you know, in Lithia Park and play video games and load up on weed, sorry. We're not going to give you free health care, okay? We're not going to do this. This is it. And the state of Oregon has resisted this. Oh, they resisted this and we're just holding it out.

and is we're not going to give the immigration status. Trump wanted the immigration status of every individual. Well, the other day, the state of Oregon blinked, and so they gave it. They have given the information for the Oregon Health Authority. They ended up caving in on this because they were going to be losing tons of money on the Oregon Health Plan. Lots of money coming from the Feds, so they're giving it up. Now, what the Trump administration will do with this is that they're not going to give money to the state of Oregon to supplement health care for people who, you know, are not citizens and or bums. I mean, that's why they're, that's why they were talking about.

Cliff was talking about it the other day. That it's a, you know, you have to have a work requirement. You have to be doing something to help better yourself, right? You know, you can't just sit around and do nothing. And then we're going to give you free health care. can't afford to do this I know my health care isn't free I know my employer knows the health care is not free

we're having to pay you know tens of thousands of dollars a year into the system you know for this I don't know if it's tens of thousands for me but I know the the premium even for me as an individual within my marquee broadcast company is significant and they're paying probably two-thirds of it it's a lot of money you know it goes in there it's real

and then the thought you have other people there's say, oh, you know, I'm just going to sit around. I don't feel like doing this or else I'm just going to work off under the table and do it this way. Give me my free care. That's not working anymore. So the state of Oregon has given that information to the Trump administration. Now, there is another lawsuit, which is bubbling its way, that Department of Justice or the Attorney General of the United States, Bondi, they have filed a lawsuit against the United States government.

I'm sorry, the state of Oregon. Let me start this again. They have filed a lawsuit against the Oregon government when it comes to the immigration issues. And what I'm going to do here is that we are in talks to discuss this with someone from the DOJ on Tuesday is what we're looking to do this. I don't have all the details yet. Now, I'll say more when the time comes, but they're going to comment and talk about this lawsuit against the state of Oregon, trying to bring Oregon to heal over these sort of issues. Now, you could have Governor Kotech, and you can have Dan Rayfield

and all these other people talking about, oh, yeah, we're going to fight. What they're fighting to do is to keep status quo delusion world going, and we can't afford delusion world any longer. We just can't. So some good news. Trump administration is serious about this, and I was musing about this right from the beginning

that they were actually going to be using the funding to crack the whip. And a lot of stupidity and a lot of bad public policy is being paid for here in the state of Oregon has been backfilled by federal government grant stream funding. And the DOJ is going after that. And hopefully when it comes to this sanctuary state situation, the state may reconsider because they're already complaining about, oh, no, we got to get the ODOT and this net. We've got to double your taxes here or this or that. The other, well, a lot of this is to make up.

And by the way, Dwayne Yonker was talking about this at a fundraising event that I was at yesterday in Josephine County. I was in, you know, one of the, you know, whine things and write checks to Dwayne. And we did. You know, our family did. As we like to see him stay in the state legislature. I hope you help him out too. But he was saying that Oregon's never had more money. The money is flowing into Oregon's coffers.

it's what it chooses to spend the money on. And this is including the grant stream funding coming from the federal government. And so when they're talking about these horrible cuts that we're having to do, it's because they want to keep paying for the transgender surgeries. They want to keep paying for illegal alien health care. They want to keep doing all the other things that, you know, as we try to tighten up and make sure that Americans are taking care of better, Oregon wants to keep doubling down on the delusion.

And at least the Trump administration, in my opinion, is doing the best it can to write the ship. And like I said, Dwayne yesterday in his little speeches, he was giving it to us all, nice place we're all hanging out, is great, is that the money's not the problem. It's the outflow where we choose to spend it. And Oregon has been loathe to really prioritize, A, American citizens, residents of Oregon. Oregon. They're really not been happy about this. Sanctuary City. We, you know, they double down. They double down on loving people who don't follow the rules. And maybe this is the only way that there is real reform because the state of Oregon will be forced to. Oregon's response

to all of this so far, though, is just, well, that's okay. The feds won't pay. We'll just, you know, raise taxes on the people who remain here, guess. I suppose they can do this for a while. That's also why, though, you need to flip a few seats here in the state legislature, because as it is right now, Dwayne had remarked, was it Dwayne or was it? No, I think it was Congress and Cliff Benz, who was also at this little get-together yesterday, a bunch of people were at. No, Herman. No, maybe it was Herman who said this. He was talking about Brady Adams, the late Brady Adams, who said that, you know, when you're not in the majority, all you can do is throw, an occasional hand grenade into the legislative session like when Herman and the others ended up denying quorum.

To really make a difference, you have to get it closer, even if you're closer to 50-50, where they have to have Republican approval on something to move forward. That's the only way you can really have much influence. So anyway, good news coming, and we'll hopefully have someone from the DOJ Department of Justice, United States Department of Justice on Tuesday is what we're looking at right now. I'll tell you more when we get closer to it on KMED. It's every Friday more information. This is News Talk 1063, KMED, and you're waking up with the Bill Myers show.

Get those cats fixed. I want to get in touch with them, because like I said, we have people in my neighborhood out in East Medford that apparently have abandoned. They come out, I think back when we had a farm field next to us before they build houses, people would just come on and dump cats. I haven't noticed any dogs being dumped, but, you know, they'll get picked up by animal control more quickly than cats. You know, a lot of times you can't tell, but, you know, you get those cats, they come in our backyard, hop over the fence in, and you can tell thin, straggly, hungry. And I can't help it, man, you know, I, you know, I'm going to feed them. I'll pick up the, the cheap cat food at Costco or the Not So Special Kitty from Walmart.

That's what I nicknamed it, Not So Special Kitty. There was one cat Boswell we had over in Jacksonville that for years we fed him. And, you know, feral cats, they don't tend to live a long time because you don't have the kind of garbage and wildlife out in the neighborhoods that you once did back when we had those garbage cans that were in the alleys that you could knock the lid off, you know, that kind of stuff. So I'm a big fan of keeping people fed and keeping the kitties and the dogs fed too, just saying. Hello, Matt. How are you doing? What's happening on Conspiracy Theory Thursday? What's on your mind? Well, I don't have a conspiracy for it, but I'll just, I want to touch on the cat thing. There's a local pet place here in Grants Pass, and my wife goes in there and we buy food for the dogs and the cat. And they actually donate food that's been returned to my wife, and she feeds the kitties down at the fairgrounds.

Oh. She goes down there and puts out a plate of food for them to make sure that they get fed. The other thing is that when you have the feral population out there, you keep them fed. They're not going to be going after the birds quite to the same extent, too. And I think that's good for the native bird population around here. That's a great point. We actually personally paid. We captured a few cats over the years and taken it and then I have them spayed. Yeah, we had one that we called her bell that we thought belonged to someone,

but she was walking around here with a cone on her head. That's why we called her bell like she had a bell on her head. And then we realized that no one was feeding her. And she was getting thinner and thinner and thinner. I said, oh, someone captured her and then had her fixed and then just, you know, released her out there again. Oh, my God. Yeah. I don't know how you do it.

She's a sweet cat, but, you know, but we feed them. But at least I know, at least I know that one's not going to make any more kitties. And that's good. So that was good. Well, the first thing I want to tell you is, again, love your interviews. Great interview. My wife... Oh, with John Lake, is that the one you're talking about?

Yeah, yeah, it's a great interview because a lot of the stuff he said, I think we know that if you, you know, so much has changed. If your kids grow up and they're properly fed, you've got good, clean water. In our case, when I was working and my wife was at home, those kids were out in the backyard all day. They were cleaning stalls. They were, we had a little tiny pony that they could get. on it right around the yard. Our kids stayed outside. When they got to high school, they got flip phone just in case something happened and

they needed to call us. But we kept them away from all that stuff. And both of my kids, knock on wood, they're both same. And I think all of those kinds of health things contribute. Not only that, it probably helps with their grades, with their homework, their ability to focus in class, you know, all of those things. And lastly, I just wanted to say, so I was on X last night. and I see a video of this dad, he says he's a Trump guy.

He looks like a Trump guy, bald little goatee, and he's got five kids, and he said that Trump just cut his foodie card from $2,800 a month to $300 a month, and he says, hey, he's a white dude. Okay, so he cut his what card? I'm sorry, I couldn't understand that. his foodie card, you know, his money for his, what do they call it? I don't know. He's called foodie card. Oh, snap benefits, Oregon Trail card?

He was getting $2,800 every month. He was getting $2,800 a month, really? Now he got five kids. Uh-huh. Okay. That's still a lot to me. Even considering inflation overall is 22% from where it was back in 2020. They cut it to $300, and he says, if it goes any lower, he's going to move out of the country.

And I had to comment, and I just said, let me get this straight. You can't afford groceries because he says, I ain't trying to find work. He said he's not trying to find work, and he was getting $2,800 a month with five kids. He doesn't want to get a job. He's like, and if Trump lowers it anymore, he's going to move out of the country. I just said, let me get this straight. You can afford to move five kids to another country and start all over, but you can't afford to feed your children. Or get a job.

You don't want to get a job. Okay. Wow. There has been a lot of learned dependence or learned dependency in our country, hasn't there? I mean, just think about this, Bill. I'm a dad. You're a dad. Our kids were young ones.

so I'm supposed to work and pay taxes and pay for my kids and pay for his kids money and pay for his kids that right so I'm paying for my kids and like the lack of self-awareness not to say to yourself oh gosh you know I never really thought about any other dad oh yeah and this guy on social media is thinking that we're going to be sympathetic that his benefits have been cut from 2800 to 300 and he says I'm not going to look for a job back with you buddy He looked great. I mean, he's a nice-looking dude. He looks healthy.

Of course, he looks great. He's relaxed. He's got nothing going. He has all his needs taken care of, you know? Oh, my gosh. You know, what is the, what is it? Do I, maybe I have that. You can act like a man.

What's the matter with you? Is this how you turned out of Hollywood, Pinocchio? That's what I always think of, that Godfather lying with Marlon Brando and Johnny Fontaine is crying. Oh, God, what am I doing? I'm going to do. Trump has got me. You can act like a man.

Go up, get a job for crying out loud. Oh, my goodness. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, really enjoyed that interview. I learned a lot. And a good commentary after that. I can't remember your caller who called in. She was fantastic.

Oh, that was Lynn. That was Lynn. Yeah. Yeah, that was great. All right. Hey, appreciate the call, Matt. Good hearing from you, okay? Me too, Bill.

All righty. Afterno's, we're going to be talking with Jeff Dornick from pickax because Google came out the other day and said yeah we destroyed a lot of pizza a lot of people we you know we dropped them from YouTube we got rid of their social media

we destroyed their businesses yes we censored them but we're really sorry yeah they're re well they're restarting their social media but is that enough? Accessed your stored items in comfort. Storage at exit 24 has climate-controlled elevator access units from 5 by 5 to 10 by 30 that are warm in the winter, cool in the summer, and always well litters.

Welcome to the Bill Myers Show on 1063 KMED. 743. Boy, kind of a wild morning. Every now I'm then trying to dial out and I get busy numbers. I don't know. Maybe they know I'm going to be talking with Jeff Dornick, who is the founder and CEO of Pickax. And then the phone system says, we don't want to. you talking with Jeff. But anyway, Jeff, I'm glad we made it through. How you doing this morning? Welcome. Doing really well. Thanks for having me on.

Okay. Now, tell us a little bit about Pickax, because it is a groundbreaking social media platform. And you have a couple of uncompromising principles, and I'm wondering if you could dig into this, and how does this actually work? Yeah, definitely. Definitely. So with Pickax, you know, social media platform, you know, very similar to, like, what's out there in the sense of, like,

you can post, you can, you know, do all. of that. One of the key distinctions is that you have both freedom of speech and freedom of reach in a platform, which means you can say what you want, and we're not going to artificially limit your reach, which is actually written into the terms of service of platforms like X, literally say, like you can go look it up right now in the terms of service, that they offer freedom of speech, but not freedom of reach, which means they'll let you say what you want, but that doesn't mean they have to let anybody actually see it. Exactly. You can post something, but whether anybody sees it or not is another story, right? That's it. Exactly. Exactly.

And so everything that we do is to try to bridge the gap between you and your audience. So, you know, we're never going to get in between you and people that choose to follow you because we feel like, hey, you earned a following if they chose to click that follow button. You can write articles. We have full Rumble integration where you can actually post Rumble videos and they're playable and the newsfeed into the platform. And then we're also rolling out a new feature here in the next couple of months where you actually be able to build up an email list and send out email newsletters directly from the platform.

So we're trying to bridge that gap as much as we can. and give as much connection between people and between humans as possible compared to a lot of the other platforms that artificially limit your ability to be heard. Now, the question I have for you, and the reason I want to bring you on here is that Google, of course, admitted that, hey, we're really sorry that we destroyed your life and the platformed you and censored you and everything else. And please forgive us. And, oh, by the way, we'll reinstitute your YouTube channel that we killed a number of years ago. yeah the Biden thing ended up telling us to get rid of you and we did you know we were the hit man that's essentially what they said right isn't that essentially what they said they fell on their store the other day but uh you know now what right yeah well you know it's like to me they

they burned that bridge uh the CEO of rumble was actually just uh being interviewed yesterday about this very topic and he made the point that you know that this is this is bigger than just oh we took we took instruction from the Biden administration uh to censor you know content over or, you know, fill in the blank. Right. But he's like, he's like a really, we had a really big influx over on Rumble leading up to the 2020 election. He's like, they were actually interfered in the 2020 election before the Biden administration

even got on. And so we began to see a lot of the censorship happened in October of 2020 just before the election. And then it's continued ever since. So, you know, even going back, you could say, okay, were they actually basically now admitting that they interfered? in that election. Okay.

One could you arguably say, yeah, they did. Right? Okay, all right. As long as we agree on this. Is anyone going to pay a price for this, though? That's the question, is that, you know, are we going to go back? Are we going to look at some of these big tech platforms involvement, especially when it comes to things like elections?

And I think that that's part of the problem that was. that we have right now with like Section 230 protections and things along those lines is that when they start, when they start editorializing the search results and the algorithms and all that, and then it has direct impacts on the information that people receive heading into elections and who they're going to vote for and who they're going to support, that's when you start getting into should they have these kinds of protections if they're going to be making those kinds of decisions. And to me, I think that they've lost, they've lost the ability for us to be able to trust that they can be neutral, that they're not going to be, you know, using the

algorithms for their, for their own benefit. And just because they admit, oh, we did this in the past, we promise you we're not going to do it again, we're going to need to be a little bit more than just, oh, you're letting us back on the platform. Because the reality of it is, and this is the dirty secret when it comes to, you know, big tech platforms now kind of opening things back up, is number one, they're doing it in the era of the Trump administration. They're trying to keep Trump happy and all that kind of stuff. But on the flip side as well, they're also using it to where they want your data

and they want your information to funnel into their artificial intelligence development. And so that's why you see all these platforms starting to open back up is because they want your data because they want to be able to understand you. They want your information so that way they can target you and manipulate you. They're not promising that they're not going to shadow ban. They're not promising that they're not going to manipulate the algorithms. They're just saying, oh, you can come back on our platform and we promise we're not going to kick you off again. Well, we are needed to feed and train artificial intelligence.

That's the unsaid part, I guess, right? Yeah, yeah, exactly. And, you know, we saw this, and the perfect example was when Elon Musk bought Twitter turned it into X. And, you know, X became this massive pool of data to build up GROC and XAI. And as evidence of this, number one, you got a, you got a multi-billion dollar loan in order to buy Twitter, something like $40 billion, you don't get a $40 billion loan to defend free speech. What was the return on investment? It was developing artificial intelligence

and just a few months ago, XAI, which is Elon's artificial intelligence company, purchased X. So now X is a subsidiary of XAI. Why? Because it's the data that's funneling in to the artificial intelligence company. And so when you understand it from that perspective, data is King and all the rest of these platforms are now following suit because they need the data in order to compete on the AI practice. Now, you have the Larry Ellison's of the world. Now, is Larry Ellison involved with Palantir 2, or is that Peter Thiel? I forget, you know, the players in that.

I think it's Peter Thiel. I wouldn't be surprised at Larry Ellison is as well, but I'm pretty sure it's Peter Thiel. Okay. You have all of these futurists, the Teals, the Elon Musk's, the Bill Gates. you have Larry Ellison, all the other people. And everybody, of course, is getting up a stage where the heck, they were up on the stage with Trump, you know, a few months ago when he first came in here, too. And they're all talking about openly here that AI and robotics are going to render human labor obsolete within the next decade.

You know, they're saying this openly, okay? This is a stated goal. Isn't this a trap, you know, the whole social media algorithm world in some ways? You know, ultimately here we're, you know, this is reminding me of the Disney people that had the H-1B visa holders from Bangalore coming in, and they were forced to train their replacements so they could get severance from Disney, you know, a few years ago. Remember that? Yep.

Yeah, it's kind of the same idea because they're using us in oil. order to basically replace us. And as long as we're playing within their ecosystems, then that's basically what's going to happen. I mean, you look at Facebook, you know, Mark Zuckerberg is investing $65 billion into developing artificial intelligence for the purpose of replacing human content creators with content creators that are AI generated. And in that way, they can control anything and everything that said. They can claim to be a free speech platform because they actually control what all the influencers actually say. It keeps the advertisers happy. They can use this to push advertising. They control every aspect where what they're conditioning us to be are

consumers. You know, another example is Elon Musk was asked by Benjamin Netanyahu a couple years ago, what's the end game of AI? And he said it's either going to be Terminator, where the robots take over, or it's going to be heaven on earth. And then you went on to explain that heaven on earth is basically the movie Wally that Pixar put out several years. ago, where you just have people that are just all-consuming blobs of flesh will have universal basic income. You might be connected to the Internet, and we can just live this heimistic lifestyle without the need to work, and we just go about, and to me, that's taking away the entire purpose of

humanity. What are we... Yeah, yeah, where is our purpose for being, other than just to suck on that system? That doesn't sound like a particularly interesting or stimulating form of life. you know, we have to have something to work for or work against, don't we? Right, well, and even beyond, like, having, you know, quote-unquote purpose is your own individual sovereignty. And, you know, part of working is also being able to be an individual that's not reliant on anybody else. You can be your own person.

That was one of our foundational principles in this country that, you know, that our founders believe that every single individual is created in the image of God that has certain animal rights that cannot be taken away by the government because they're given to us by, God. And one of those was your ability to be self-sufficient, your ability to work, your ability, your ability to own property to do all that. But what they're doing is they're taking all of that away to where, you know, we're no longer going to be able to worry. If you can't work, then you are a slave by definition because you are reliant upon somebody else for your income. And the terrifying thing to me in this scenario is that they're not proposing that we're reliant upon the government, which theoretically we'd be able to vote on certain

kinds of decisions and how it all works. But what they're talking about is we'll be reliant upon the big tech companies who will be paying out this universal basic income or as they call dividends on artificial intelligence to where now these big tech oligarchs will have the power over us because we're reliant on them for our income after they replaced all of our jobs. And this is what has been discussed on the people like, you know, well, about the technocracy, about bringing in a technocracy, the scientific, managed society dictatorship and doing this through the amalgam or the oh gosh i just uh well anyway i'm talking with it i'm sorry my mind is kind of a racing a hand on my mouth here

at this moment when i sort of envision this uh it's it's kind of dystopian so what what do you think is uh is winning right now the dystopian robots take over and kill us all or the even more dystopian in a different form and where we're just fat blobs just consuming our universal basic income. Where do you see that, Jeff? I think that we're going to be entering into an era that's probably going to be closer to the latter is what I'm guessing. But I think that we as human beings, we can decide to check out from that system. And we can begin to begin to build a parallel economy and to be self-sufficient and not reliant upon the AI economy. If we're going to be in the mainstream

economy, that's going to be AI dominated and we're eventually going to be replaced. However, and I was talking to Nicole Shanahan about this a couple of months ago, where it's like, can we set up these spaces for people that don't want to be connected to AI to where we can have our own ecosystem, we can work, maybe we have a community, maybe we need to start growing our own food, maybe we need to start having skills that, you know, we support each other and be completely checked out of the AI system because otherwise we're going to be replaced. It's just a matter of, it's just a matter of, it's just a matter of time before that happens. And then we would also have to have the right to shoot down the AI

drones that would be surveilling our community, I'm sure. Oh, yes. There would definitely we'd have to have some sort of like technological thing that will shut down their power source or, you know, something like that. It'll be bonkers. Yeah. Interesting times they were living in. Jeff Dornick, once again, a CEO and founder of Pickax, pickax.com, which is free speech, social media. Now, I have to ask you, you know, you have a real vested interest in wanting to make this work. I'm going to get an account and just see how this works, okay? I'm going to try you out and check this out. My curiosity, though, is everything right now is based on the advertiser model of taking your information and then feeding you advertising.

The problem with the feeding of the advertising algorithm sort of thing and the way most social media is set up is that that tends to then dictate whether or not you're going to be seen and or not. So how do you make money with Pickax? How can you pay for the expenses because bandwidth and data is not free? What say you? Oh, yeah. It is definitely not free. So the key with Pickax is that we have a variety of income streams that we bring in everything from content creators can put up paywalls and put exclusive content behind there.

We do it. We do have advertising, but we don't collect any data. And so what we actually do instead of targeting advertising based upon stocking you, which is what all the rest of the platforms do. They start your phone calls, you're going across the Internet, whatever you're doing. What we do is we actually just target based upon the content that you're looking at. So, you know, looking at the topics, looking at the themes, looking at correlating things that may correlate with that specifically.

So like if we're talking about medical freedom, maybe you're going to want to see an advertising for a health share company or the wellness company or something like that. If you're looking at something about election fraud, you might want to see, you might want to check out, you know, my pillow. And so we can actually target ads based upon the content that you're looking at as opposed to stocking you to know your specific things that we were just looking up three minutes ago on the Internet. All right. I get that.

Okay, I can appreciate that, you know, that model of it because I'll give you an example. And sometimes things are creeping me out. I think I have everything turned off to the point where I'm not being as monitored as much as I once was. All right. But I want to give you an example of what happened to me the other day in my home. Lynn and I were talking about Jackery because I had purchased a Jackery, a solar backup power system, you know, a small, you know, 1,000-watt hour type of situation with a solar cell because it had gone on sale at a local store. So I bought that. I have my cell phone.

The microphone is disabled for practically everything unless I'm in certain apps like dialing the phone. our computers microphones are disabled all these other things we don't have an Alexa in our house we don't have any of that sort of stuff Jeff but I got to tell you my wife and I talking about it and then my wife Linda starts getting hit up with Jackery ads and other other information you know coming from competitors being fed to her in various issues here gosh where's the where are the leaks in our in our world do you know where do you even go about trying to find that do you know well i i don't necessarily know that the mission specifically but uh but what's interesting i had a conversation with uh with somebody who is you know pitching me on a new technology that that they're that they're doing and some of the things that are that they're allowed to actually do within within apps are actually they can actually turn on your phone whether you know it or not and actually listen in on your conversations on what's happening they have the ability to tell whether you're standing up or sitting down they have the

ability to listen in on the surrounding, you know, sounds and noises that are happening to know kind of where you are. They can track your location to know where you've been. There's so many different things that they can do that you just don't even realize how invasive it actually is. And again, this is the problem is we have no more privacy. We have no more privacy. Yeah, it's pure surveillance capitalism. And I wouldn't even call it capitalism. It's, you know, really kind of like you're on their farm is really what you are is happening. Yeah. It's like, do you own yourself? Do you own your own space? Or are you just a commodity that is, that is available for anybody and everybody to profit off of? Jeff Dornick, once again, pickax, pickax.com. I'm certainly not trusting the Google world. That is for sure at this point forward. And I don't know. Should we be trusting any of them? Should I even trust you? Why should I trust you?

yeah i mean you know for for i would say you know we should not we should not be trusting any any of these big tech companies for sure i think that they've lost all ability to you know for us to be able to trust them and have faith in them uh with with with with us with pickax you know we want we want to earn everybody's trust and i and i'm going into it with eyes wide open knowing that everybody's kind of been burned by all the previous platforms that are out there so we're so we're there to earn your trust uh we're not collecting any data we're not we're not doing any of that. And we're committed to being a very human-centered social media platform. And as time goes on, that we will continue to, you know, be trustworthy and earn everybody's trust. And I fully

expect that people are going to be very leery in the beginning just because they've been burned by so many different platforms. Can you do videos on pickax or natively or do you have to go to a rumble and then bring a rumble video over? So right now it would be, it would be through Rumble, we actually have the ability to connect your Rumble channel to your pickax account where it will automatically post anytime you go live or post a new video on Rumble. So you don't have to like copy and paste and jump over. We're eventually going to be incorporating some video content as well, but right now we're leaning heavily into the Rumble immigration.

Yeah, I know the video ends up being a lot, it raises your cost dramatically, I would imagine, a lot more storage needed for that. Yeah. Yeah. And also, too, with social media platforms, you know, there's so, a lot of times your video content is very diluted because every platform has a lot of. own video content. Whereas, you know, there's a lot of people that, a lot of great people that have Rumble channels, but they can't build it on these other platforms because they get demoted

in the algorithms without bound links. So, I thought you're like, okay, let's help these people that are on Rumble already, which is the phenomenal free speech video platform, and let's actually help them to build the Rumble channels, get more monetized views. We've actually had some people do some testing using Pickax to be able to promote the Rumble channels, and they're seeing significantly higher monetized views just by incorporating a pickax. So a lot of people are getting really happy and excited about that. All right, very good. Well, I'm going to tiptoe in and see what you're up to at pickax.com, okay?

Now, you have written a couple of books here. I just want to ask you briefly about them. You co-authored Church and State, how the left used the church to conquer America and social injustice exposing the false gospel of the social justice movement. Wow. You got something coming out here, new? pretty soon? Yeah. Yes. So both of those books were group book projects that I put together, got together a bunch of pastors and theologians and tackled those issues specifically. And then I'm working

on my own solo book right now called Following the Leader, where, you know, I'm really looking at like the cult of personality and how the powers that be will use that to manipulate all of us. And, you know, and the key to me is helping people to understand that your identity should not be in a party or a politician or anything outside of your worldview, of your face. faith of God, and, you know, figure out what you believe, and why do you believe? Are you being manipulated by somebody else in order to believe something, or you actually believe that it's true? So that's really the premise of the book. And you get some pre-order it at jeffdornec.com. Okay, very good. Try to keep our independence is a real challenge these days.

Jeff, I appreciate you coming on. And thanks for sharing some news about that, okay? You'd be well. Of course. Thank you. Jeff Dornick, once again, founder and CEO of Pickax, pickax.com. It is KMED, KMED, HD1. Eagle Point, Medford, KBXG, grants, pass. Does Oregon have an energy plan? Well, they claim to. Does it make any sense? No, this is Oregon.

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