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Episode Date: September 25, 2025

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The Bill Myriss Show podcast is sponsored by Klausur Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at Klauserdrilling.com. Randar Little Tool joins me. He's an adjunct scholar at Cascade Policy Institute. And, of course, we've talked to people from Cascade quite often. Really enjoy them. Cascade Policy is Oregon's free market public policy research organization.

He is a transportation in land use policy analyst, also the author of several books, including American Nightmare, how government undermined. Randallel Toole joins me. He's an adjunct scholar at Cascade Policy Institute. And, of course, we've talked to people from Cascade quite often. Really enjoy them. Cascade Policy is Oregon's free market public policy research organization.

He is a transportation in land use policy analyst. Also, the author of several books, including American Nightmare, How Government Undermines the Dream of Home Ownership. You got that. also the romance of the rails why the passenger trains we love are not the transportation we need and he comes from central Oregon

Randall it is great to have you back on welcome to the show thank you I'm glad to be here Randall I wanted to talk about a piece you put out the other day for Cascade policy which I found really thought-provoking you're saying that Oregon's energy strategy is doomed to fail

now I don't like to be a doomsayer especially as even the fact that we all need energy and we're not going to make it without energy. It's bad enough what's been going on with the electrical grid right now. What do you mean about our Oregon strategy? Is it about our grid, how we develop or pipe energy around or how we do it? I mean, when you talk about the strategy, what is that strategy first off?

Maybe that's where we go. Well, the Oregon Department of Energy issued a draft Oregon energy strategy a few months ago. and ask for public comments on it. And a key part of the strategy says that the state should expand access to multimodal transportation, including public transit, bicycling, and walking infrastructure, and promote development patterns that make it easier and more appealing to live, work, and access services without driving a car. Okay. So what they want to do is substitute transit, bicycles, and walking.

for cars. And the problem is that Portland has been doing this for almost 50 years, and it hasn't worked. And in fact, everywhere that's tried it is failed. In Portland, they canceled the Mount Hood Freeway in 1977. The last freeway in Portland was completed in 1982. The population has doubled since then. And what has happened to transit? They spent billions of dollars on life. rail that has built 400 miles of bike paths and bike routes. Well, transit share of commuting went from 10% to 7%. And people who drive alone to commute, that increased from 65% to 68%, almost 69%. Well, okay, so we had these encouragements.

They built it and were not on it. And I would imagine the statistics in Southern Oregon probably aren't a whole lot different than. We joke about how Road Valley Transit District has had to put up shields on the transit buses and probably meant to, you know, shields on the windows so we couldn't see how few people are riding. I think it's what they were saying. So this is not uncommon then, that's what you're saying. Well, there's a philosophy shared by transit agencies. that everybody should have a right to take transit, even if they don't want to. So therefore, we're going to send transit everywhere, which means we're going to have a lot of

empty transit vehicles run around. Why are we doing this? Why? It's to save energy and reduce greenhouse gas emissions. But the average transit bus in this country uses more energy, and he missed more greenhouse gases than an average SUV. Well, well... average car or a prius. Okay. What I'm curious about, though, is that is there a way to maybe calculate, I'm not even a believer or a buyer of this whole idea that somehow carbon dioxide, which is needed

to have plant life on the planet, which is needed for life itself, is the poison that so many urban planners are looking at it, because, you know, you're even, you are talking about, well, the greenhouse gas emissions. But let's just assume that we go down that road then, okay? Has anyone done a study, let's say, to figure out if the emissions of the current, of the current public transit, let's say, per rider, per customer, I guess. The passenger mile. Yeah, yeah.

Are they more or less than, let's say, private transportation options? they're more they're more by far really buses are really dirty and uh up in seattle they've got ferry boats those are even worse the street cars are really energy inefficient in portland um portland's commuter train is really a energy inefficient the problem is if you take a bus and fill every single seat and have people standing in the aisles and drive that bus, that's going to be fairly energy efficient. Okay. That's not what happens.

On average, there's only about six people on a bus. So you've got this giant bus capable of holding 100 people, or maybe 60 people, and it's got six people, and it's running around at one-tenth of its capacity or less, that's going to be a huge waste of energy and a huge emitter of greenhouse gases. Okay. Okay. If you think that's a problem, but still it's energy inefficient by, so by comparison then, someone with driving a Prius around, if you had six people driving a Prius around rather than six people on a big, even if it is a propane powered or natural gas powered diesel bus, chances are the six Priuses generate less trouble than the bus does, right? Absolutely. And there are a lot of transit projects in the country where it would have been cheaper to give every single daily rider of those projects a new Toyota Prius every year or maybe every other year for the rest of their lives than it would have been to build those transit projects. One of those is the Portland commuter train.

Okay. So mass transit only works if you have the masses. That's what you're telling me. Mass transit only works if you've got a real concentrated job center for people to go to on mass transit. Well, hasn't that been pretty much destroyed with even work at home? If the mass transit is going towards that job center. Okay. For example, Portland has a dozen major job centers. Mass transit only serves one of them downtown.

Doesn't serve any of the others. And this is true across the country. All of mass transit is oriented around downtown, which would have made sense 120 years ago when all the jobs were downtown. But now typically only 6 or 8 percent of jobs are downtown. So we have this huge mass transit system is costing taxpayers $70 billion a year to serve the 6 or 8 percent of people who work downtown and nobody else. Could you extrapolate the findings in your criticism of the Oregon energy policy with what we have in smaller cities like Medford or Grants Pass or an Ashland? We don't tend to have these concentrated job centers either. We ended up just taking a whole bunch of cuts in public transit because of the Grant Stream funding disappearing from the Trump administration.

You know, they're backing off on a lot of this stuff for various reasons. And is our experience different from, let's say, Portland? Portland seems to be much more mass-transited than Southern Oregon. The New York Times is called Portland. They said that transit is loved by Portlanders. Yes. But what the truth is, is that transit construction is loved by Portland officials. But Portlanders don't love to ride transit.

Transit ridership had been declining since about 2016, which was right when they opened their most expensive light rail line. Transit ridership started declining. Now it's way down. Places like Medford or Bend are quite different. They're sending transit out way into the boonies because they believe people have some kind of, entitlement to be served by transit, even though they don't ride transit, even though they

all own cars. And so their transit vehicles are ending up running 90% empty as well. But it's, you know, transit doesn't make sense in those places, but it makes sense if you're a transit union worker, it makes sense if you're a transit executive, it makes sense if you're a politician that wants to be seen as giving gifts to people or giving gifts to transit unions. But it doesn't make sense as far as transportation goes. It's just a political pork barrel. Randall O'Toole with a once again adjunct scholar at the Cascade Policy Institute.

He is a new piece out, and it's entitled Oregon Energy Strategy is doomed to fail. However, this is the plan. This is, I mean, this is the state of Oregon's, official policy. I'll give you an example of what was done here recently because you brought up everything's about multimodal, right? Isn't that what you were saying? That's the Oregon plan. On Oregon Highway 62 by the Rogue Valley Mall, we were criticizing a project the other day. Actually, a few weeks ago we were talking about this, in which they took away a lane of traffic and squeezed things together. You know, the traffic that's actually moving people past the

Road Valley Mall on Highway 62, and they took a lane of that away so that they could widen the sidewalk, so they could have a swidewalk. We call it a swidewalk, a super wide sidewalk, you know, and we were driving past that the other day, and of course, no one's on it, but ostensibly the studies from ODOT said that, well, we did traffic studies, and people were scared to push their baby strollers and things like that on the sidewalk because it was too close to the traffic, is what they were, you know, claiming, you know, that was going by. But yet nobody's using it.

Now, I don't have a problem with a sidewalk. I didn't have a problem with the old sidewalk, but, you know, doubling and tripling the size of the sidewalk was all talked about being part of the multimodal mode out of coming out of Salem. I mean, this is what we're being ordered to do down here, I guess, Randall. What do you think? This is all part of the strategy. And really what's going on here is that the state government sets targets.

Right. that look really good, like, we're going to build 30,000 homes a year, but we're going to reduce driving by 20% or 30%. And then they use those targets as a way to bully people, as a way to make people's lives worse. We're going to make housing really expensive and force more people to live in multifamily housing instead of the single family homes they prefer. We're going to make it really hard to drive. We're going to increase traffic congestion by taking four-lane streets and giving two of the lanes to bicycles or giving two of the lanes to buses. You might have one bus go every 10 minutes, but that deserves its own lane, six buses an hour that run empty most of the

day. And the whole point is to bully people to try to, you know, if we can't force people out of their cars, at least we can feel good that they're being punished by having to drive in more traffic congestion. Now, maybe that's the real, no, the real point to bully us then. You brought up something in this piece, which kind of struck me oddly or kind of cut against my preconceived notions. And I'm wondering if you could maybe explain this more. You say that constructing high-density, I guess we can call it climate-friendly, equity.

community, Kate Brown housing in downtown area, you know, high-density housing is actually less energy efficient than single-family homes. That strikes me as odd. I don't know how can that be. Could you help me understand your claim? Well, the Department of Energy has published data that clearly shows that multifamily housing uses more energy per square foot than single-family housing. That's in operations.

That's in heating and lighting and stuff like that. that. That may be because a lot of multifamily homes, the electricity is included in the rent. And so the renters have no incentive to be energy efficient. I don't know. We also know that when you build three-story or four-story or five-story apartment buildings, you're going to need elevators. You're going to need a lot more concrete and steel. And those things make requirements. a lot more energy. Plus, you're going to have to have hallways and lobbies that are indoors, but don't contribute to livable square footage. Yes.

And so those things all require a lot more energy. So the energy cost of constructing multifamily homes, at least when there are three stories and up, is a lot higher than the energy cost of constructing single-family homes. Boy, I would have thought it was exactly the opposite. Well, it's interesting to actually look at the real numbers here. You are also adding something that the state policy is all about making it more congested and more difficult to drive, right? We've known that there's been a war on individual transportation here for a long, long time, Randall. you say though that if they were really concerned that if the state of Oregon was really concerned about energy conservation and if they were really concerned about the climate friendly pollution from carbon dioxide and everything else that they would be working to alleviate congestion is that what you're claiming yes cars uh use most of their fuel accelerating and so if you've got a lot of stop and go traffic uh you're using

a lot more energy and you're emitting a lot more greenhouse gases than if you've got traffic as free-flowing at 40 or 60 miles an hour or whatever. And so when you increase congestion, you dramatically increase energy consumption. The Portland area used, you know, millions of gallons of wasted, millions of gallons of fuel in 2020 or 2019. or 2023, more than they had wasted 30 years before, just because of the increasing congestion. And congestion is a problem in Bend, in Medford, and Grants Pass and other places, too. And here's the catch. The state refuses to build into its transportation models the impacts of congestion on fuel consumption

and greenhouse gas emissions. They assume that the amount of greenhouse gas emissions, submitted are exactly proportional to the amount of miles we drive. So if they can reduce the amount of miles we drive, then we reduce the amount of greenhouse gas emissions. How do we reduce the amount of miles we drive? They increase traffic congestion to force people out of their cars and onto those transit buses or bicycles or whatever.

But the problem with transit buses is that... acknowledge that doing that makes more greenhouse gas. Okay, yeah, they won't acknowledge that, all right. The other aspect, though, is that the state energy plan seems to make it clear that the value of our time is irrelevant. Wouldn't that be a fair assessment, the way they look at it? It doesn't matter if it would take us 15 minutes to get someplace in our personal vehicle, but it would take us 45 minutes to an hour to use mass transit.

That's the way I kind of see it. Where am I wrong? That's absolutely right. and they don't think personal preferences are important. 80% of Americans want to live in single-family homes. The goal in Portland is to reduce it to 40%. That's the goal issued by Metro, Portland's Regional Planning Agency, back in 1996.

The percentage of people in Portland who live in single-family homes should be 40%. And they don't care that twice as many people want to live single-family homes. People don't move to the wide-open spaces of Oregon in order to live in the same kind of cramped apartments. They lived in Boston, New York, or Baltimore. And yet, that's what Portland and Oregon wants to give them. That is an official state planning policy. And by the way, how much of Oregon is developed? Last time I heard it was about only 10%, but you know, we're acting as if Oregon is stuffed with people, which it is not.

Anybody who tells you 10% of Oregon is developed is lying. Oh, yeah? It's about one and a quarter percent is urbanized. One of a quarter percent. Okay. That's right. Thousand Friends of Oregon once hired an economics consulting firm called Eco Northwest and asked them, tell us what's going to happen to the Willamette Valley.

Now, I know Medford's not in the Willamette Valley, but the Willamette Valley has two-thirds of the people in Oregon. It's only one-seventh of the state. Portland, Torvalos, Salem, Eugene. So what's going to happen to the Wyoming Valley if we keep our current land use rules or if we jettison them and let the free market rule? And what the Eco Northwest found was that at the time they did their study, 5% of the Willamette Valley was developed. And if we kept the current rules, it would go up to 6%.

But if we jettisoned the rules, abandon land use planning, and let people do whatever they wanted, it would be 7%. So 1%, all these rules that are making housing so expensive, that are making traffic so congested, that are making our lives miserable, in order to save 1% of the Wyoming Valley from development. The rest of the state, of course, has hardly any development at all. But yet we're being told we have to have the same kind of rule.

climate-friendly equitable communities if you don't have the climate-friendly equitable community in your city you're not allowed to develop anywhere else for housing that people actually want right that's right you know i i can end the housing shortage in oregon overnight all we have to do is abolish urban growth boundaries if we abolish land use planning and urban growth boundaries uh we will no longer have a housing shortage but they refuse to consider that but what would our progressive urban planners do. They'll relieve the urban

growth foundry for Intel to build a factory in Portland. Yeah. But they won't relieve it for people to have housing. But what will the progressive urban planners do with their lives, Randall? You know, they wish that they could live in Paris in the 1920s,

but the reality is they all live in single family homes. They all drive to work. They think transit and multifamily housing is forever. everybody else, not for them. Okay. Randall, I'm going to post your piece here and certainly link to it also.

Is there a way we can comment on this energy policy, we, the people on this, or is this something that they're just waiting for, you know, the usual class of environmental experts and the thousand friends of Oregon, you know, to weighing in on? They have a comment page. It's a web page for commenting on the energy strategy. The problem is the comment period ended three days ago, but you can probably still submit your comments and hope that they read them. Okay. But if you go, if you just Google draft Oregon energy strategy, you'll find the comment page. All right, so the draft Oregon energy strategy is to double down on what doesn't work. That's exactly right.

Wonderful. That is the Oregon way. I appreciate that. I wish it was a happier conclusion on this one. Thanks for explaining why it is the way it is. Randall O'Toole, once again, adjunct scholar at Cascade Policy Institute, cascatepolicy.org. By the way, I noticed to that on your email address, t.org-a-o-g-slash anti-planter. Is that sort of your ethos, you're sort of an anti-urban planner kind of guy from your point of view over the bend area? I think urban planning does far more harm than good, and so I am the anti-planter. Boy, we have sure hired a lot of them here in southern Oregon, so you got your work cut out for you. Randall, a pleasure talking with you.

We will definitely have you back. Okay? Thanks so much. Thank you very much. Randall O'Toole. This is the Bill Myers show. It's open phones in its conspiracy theory Thursday. That normally terrifies me, but I trust you.

7705-633-770 K-M-ED. How do you like that talk coming for Randall O'Toole? Saying that, oh, my gosh, Oregon's nether. energy policy, focusing on making everything crowded and congested actually worsens the so-called pollution problems out there. But, you know, you get to double down with what hasn't been working over the last 40 or 50 years. I thought that was pretty interesting, all right? We can talk about that, anything else on your mind, too, for that matter.

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yeah yeah it's been choppy it's been choppy uh i'm not looking at it necessarily as a speculative play but it has been rocketing recently and right now today like 4480 it's one of those things gold gold has just uh has gone off about a third i want to say just in the last a few months oh yeah Yeah, I didn't have the money to invest in gold, but I did this silver. Yeah, well, I'm glad it's working out okay there for you, all right? And I'm kind of a hold on for dear life kind of guy at this point. Thanks for the call, Marty. I'm kind of a hold on for dear life at this point because I'm just looking at, in spite of the fact that President Trump is doing his best,

nothing would make me happier for it to be the golden age, but he's got a lot of institutional rot to clean. out in front of them and generally speaking when you have 37 trillion dollars of debt you're going to have to inflate that away that is just the traditional way that things have tended to go Dave's here on conspiracy theory Thursday how you doing yeah I have two things uh one is where they charged uh you know ice with violating uh the land use laws yeah that was in Portland and so they've actually put a land use violation on the ice facility in Portland. Well, Trump will probably sue over that, and it'll probably get struck down by the Supreme Court. Now, secondly, there is a war going on. It's the war of nation states versus

globalists, and Donald Trump went in and just rocked them over the coals, and that's Basically, without saying it, a declaration of war against a globalist, and he's taken him on head on. So things could get better if we defeat the globalists. Well, one thing I really admire about Trump administration is that especially the second Trump administration more so than the first. The first one was tied down by the commies and the globalist Lilliputians, okay? I think they're doing a much better job of using power this time.

Now, you can agree or disagree with some of the methods and things like, well, I'm going to be talking with Harmie Dillon as an example, who is the assistant AG from the DOJ on Tuesday. And we're going to talk with her about that lawsuit against the state of Oregon about cleaning the voter rolls. This is a big one, Dave. This is a huge, huge lawsuit. I think it would be good, but I don't know. Another thing is, is I want to say I'm really proud of Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., doing what he's doing. I've never been a supporter of him, but I am now. Yeah, I'm not a big supporter of a lot of his other political points of view, but I understand his health focus in this lane.

I think he is invaluable for us, and for that we are blessed if he's able to make some progress here. Okay. Thanks for the call, Dave. Good having you on. Happy to get your call on, too. We've got a few minutes left, 770-5633. Progressive casualty insurance company and affiliates not available in all states. Potential savings will vary. This is the Bill Myers Show on 1063 KMED.

Got something on your mind? Give Bill a shout at 541-770-633-770 KMED. Carrie writes me, Bill, I haven't caught who now owns your station. I hope it isn't George Soros. No, it is not. All right. It is Markey Broadcast West. Markey Broadcast West, a few months ago, purchased KMVU Fox 26 in town.

And they decided that they needed to add more to that media empire. They own some other TV stations and radio stations around the country here too. And then they bought our group recently. This was announced about three weeks ago. And we're in the process of moving some things out. and took a part one radio studio, and we're going to be setting up Fox 26's Master Control in here. We already got a lot of the folks in here that are – I mean, it's like we double the size of our company here locally, instantly, just with Fox 26 coming in. And, yeah, there is talk of moving.

Maybe my show is on Fox 2 in the morning at some point. I don't know. It's kind of an open question. But, yeah, there's a lot going on. I assure you it is not George Soros, okay? Yeah, I know. Yeah, he made a play for a lot of those talk stations back east. But, hey, I want to make sure we squeeze your calls in here. And let's go to Todd. Todd's in Central Point. Todd, this conspiracy theory Thursday, take it away.

It's not a conspiracy, but I am sick and tired of you criticizing that swidewalk in the hundreds of thousands of dollars that the taxpayers spent on widening that street and inconveniencing traffic. At 2.30 the other day, I was driving down right across from the in and out there, and I saw someone making great use of it. There was this guy shirtless with all his worldly possessions, his bedroll and his backpack thrown on the ground, with his fists clenched and screaming at the sky high as a kite. I see that as good use of public funds. Thank you. I need to give you a real American salute.

I was kind of, I was looking at scuba Steve through the window here. Where's he going with this? I was like, okay. Thank you, Todd. Let me go to, let me go to Jim. Hello, Jim. What's on your mind today, huh? Go ahead.

What, I think I'd have to have an addition to American salute, previous caller, because I'm going to make a comment on this sidewalk myself. Oh, you were going to make a comment on that, too. Go ahead, please. It's, you know, but mostly I wanted to talk about going on at Grants Pass Airport at a 10 feet. There's a chicken drop contest, and people get all upset. Chickens are rubber chickens. We drop them from airplanes that fly over top of the airfield, and we try to hit a target.

And there's any pilot interested that still have. signed up. Hey, Jim, I'm losing your cell phone a little bit. I just want to make sure I heard you right before I lose you completely. So they're doing a chicken drop and you're looking for pilots to show up today at the Grants Pass Municipal Airport, right? It's tomorrow. Tomorrow. Okay. Okay. And spectators, it's from the pilots meeting is from 10.30 in the morning. We don't attend a pilot meeting. You can't participate. It talks about the rules. some safety and stuff like that, and the action of dropping rubber chickens out of airplanes at a target for a contest starts about 11 o'clock, and we'll have refreshments in the hot

dog stand and things like that. So tomorrow at Grants Pass Airport, 10.30. All right, now, is that the Josephine County Airport? I just want to make sure I get it right. Yes, it's same airport. Okay, good. All right. We call it Grants Pass. I'm called Josephine. But it's, what, the Merlin exit to get to it? Where do you go? it's a merlin exit um take the left at the exit when they're heading north and uh the first right there's signs for the airport um it's pretty obvious where it's at and it's over by the fixed base operator the fio the main station right there you'll see where the parking lot is and yeah there's plenty of places for people to watch and participate and any pilots who as i said

were not signed up yet, 10 o'clock tomorrow morning. Yep, yeah, be there for the pilot meeting. That sounds like great fun, though, you know, and as God is my witness, I thought rubber chickens could fly, right? Well, too, but they tend to go down. Yeah, they tend to go down. All right, Jim, appreciate the report. Thanks for that.

Let me grab, let's see, Jack's here. Hello, Jack. What's on your mind? Hey, Bill. Hi. Yeah, I just want to remind everybody that September is Prostate Cancer Awareness Month. If you haven't got a PSA, no matter your age, because now they're finding that it's starting a lot younger age of men around 40. So I'm going through my third year of remission in another two years.

If I still keep my numbers the way they are, I'll be cancer-free. Yeah, I'm going to be going in for my checkup in November. Part of that's going to be the PSA, and I do have kind of what they're going to. call the base number, you know, to watch out for, you know, that sort of thing. So I'll let you know, okay? All right. That's a thing to do. All right.

Hey, thank you very much for the reminder, Jack. Let me grab next line. I don't know who it is, but it's Conspiracy Theory Thursday. Hi. Who's this? Hey, this is Dave. Hi, Dave. Hey, two things, you know, you talk about listening to you, you know, I think was last

week we're talking about insurances. You had somebody on talking about hospital billing and different insurances and stuff. Yes. And then my phone came up. with all kinds of insurance stuff on it. Isn't that interesting? Yeah. And my other thing is, why do I get threatened to have to take Medicare?

If I don't take Medicare, I'm going to get penalized. You know, why is that happening? Why do I get threatened if I don't do it? You know, I've wondered about that, too. I don't get on Medicare, well, 65, but you do have to, you do kind of have to join Medicare, and I think it's because they do expect you to contribute to the premiums. I think that may have something to do with it.

I'm not sure. Well, yeah, because you have to take A, and of course A is for hospitalization, but why do you say if you don't take it at this certain age, you're going to get penalized? You know, I just wonder about that. I might just have to ask Lynn Barton about that why they have that penalty.

I'll have to get back to you, okay? Appreciate the call, and let me grab one more. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome. Hello? Hi, who's this? Hey, I have a great PSA.

A great PSA? Now, are you talking about the PSA with... This is Cherry. Oh, Cherry, Cherry, okay. How you do? You have me going there for a second. Well, you know, sometimes you have a low, deep voice, and I wonder, well, you know, could be. What's on your mind?

My whole life. Well, I just saw a movie yesterday, a brand new one called Megan. and two or whatever about, you know, robot. And I thought I was going to really like it because number one was excellent. It was really good. But this one, man, it was over the top. It was cartoonry. Too long.

You know, I don't know. And they don't have trailers anymore for movies. So I've been watching Ray Dornovan. And I love that series. My gosh, that is not for the faint of heart. about, you know, the Irish and then the... Oh, are you talking about during the Troubles, during the Troubles, that kind of thing, or something different about the Irish?

Oh, no, it's called Ray Donovan. It's a series and it's old. And I think these old series are better. The old movies are better. Everything is better 10 or 20 years ago. What's going on here? Well, I think one of the things that made some of the older stuff better, I don't know. I think part of it's not just the writing, but they also mixed the sound differently.

Now it's like everything is about making sure that they bury the dialogue at as much sound effects in the background. And it's not just about hearing. You hear this complaint from even people who are young that I guess it makes it more exciting or authentic, okay? But, hey, I'm out of time on conspiracy theory Thursday. We'll have to explore that conspiracy tomorrow, Cherry, okay? But thanks for the review. All right. All right.

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