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Episode Date: September 29, 2025

Listener calls then right to State rep. Dwayne Yunker, his take on PDX, can the Dems face the truth? Joel Skousen, World Affairs Brief publisher joins the show. The Kirk murder is still murky, we discuss and judge the various theories.

The Bill Myers Show podcast is sponsored by Klausur drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausorring.com. Eight minutes after seven, State Representative Dwayne Yunker will join me here in a couple of minutes. Francine's on now. Hello, Francine. You want to the comment on the do-no-harm medicine people trying to get the DEI out of the medical schools, OHSU ranked F, because they're just a slave to the DEI machine.

apparently. Yeah, I have two points I'd like to make on that. The first one is very quick, but basically what is being taught is pigmented medicine. Oh. That's skin pigmentation, you know, and it's incredibly racist. And what I don't understand is why the people that are, you know, the reverse racism, why people aren't calling it out, because when you start using that word, it is effective. the whole point of I can do a better job of treating you if I am of the same race. Is that what you're speaking

of when it comes to pigmented? No. What I'm speaking of is white people people are being given positions based on color as opposed to what they're able to do. Oh, okay. And it's geared, and it's geared toward black people being favored

over all other races and that is absolutely racist. And I have to tell you it's insulting for blacks who work their butt off to get where they are. Incredibly. Yes. Yes. Absolutely. I mean, it's totally unfair to everyone. But the other thing I wanted to say is, you know, the quality of medicine that is being considered acceptable. And a lot of it is based on, oh, just prescribe this. Oh, just prescribe that. Blah, blah, blah. There's two points to that. One, besides making a lot of money for the pharmaceutical giants in the world, you know, know, it is also geared towards the culling of humanity because they're destroying the lives of people. A lot of them are elderly, but a lot of them aren't. I wonder if part of the DEI push in the medical schools is that all they want are people

that will push the pills and then just respond to what, well, who will respond to what AI tells them to do eventually? What do you think? Well, yeah, well, when people can't, the people are too stupid or not skilled enough to be able to do the job well, they will rely on. And, you know, oh, take this pill, take that pill. Because one of the big influencers of medical school is the pharmaceutical companies. I mean, you know about what happened with Rockefeller back, you know, in the early 20th century when they took over the medical schools because he saw all the profits he could make with petroleum products being able to produce medicine. Yeah.

I do recall reading about that. More importantly, though, is, well, look at the incredible, the incredible, the incredible. incredible power of the group, think even back during COVID time, and how, remember how we were told that ivermectin was horse paste and something which was an unproven, something or other, you know, we're talking about one of the most necessary medicines that was smeared because it was all about making sure that an unproven MRNA vaccine was looked at as the saving grace back then. And hopefully we learned our lesson, Francine. I got a role because You know, we're looking at state rep.

Younger is wondering why you haven't called him yet. So I've got to call him, okay? We'll talk soon. All right. All right. Thank you, Francie. 12 minutes after. N.A.com.

You're hearing the Bill Myers show on Southern Oregon's home for conservative talk. Mornings on KMED at 993 KBXG. Call Bill at 770. 5633 at 770 KMED. Here's Bill Meyer. State representative, Dwayne Yonker. rejoins the program, and he's in legislative days. In fact, everybody else is in legislative days right now in Salem.

How are you doing this morning, Dwayne? Good to have you back on. I am, you know, up here in the Promise City. The Promise City. The Promise attacks you more. Yes. But it's flaming and mostly peaceful. Oh, that's Portland, though, but I don't know.

That's Portland, yes, yes. Hey, what is your overall thought of this? It just didn't surprise me, But I had to chuckle as I'm looking at all of these state officials from the Attorney General to the Secretary of State to the governor. I mean, everybody's out there, Pam Marsh, and even Oregon's Working Family Party. They all say, oh, don't bring the National Guard up here because it'll cause trouble. It'll make trouble. And I have an analogy.

It's almost like the leftists are looking at National Guard being around. It's like in the old Popeye movies in which, Popeye cartoons in which, you know, you would just take spinach and you would shove it in someone's mouth, even if they were unconscious, and they would immediately get muscles and start being violent and beating people up, right? It just, is that what the National Guard is?

When you bring them over by the ice building? Is that what's going to happen? It's like antifa spinach? What's going on here, huh? Yeah, these people are so out of touch. Before I give you my analysis about the National Guard, you know, Peanut Totech running Oregon after only working in non-profits is like putting a volunteer in a mall greeter in charge of Pentagon. Yeah.

Great hand-out palpit. It's not so great at keeping place to cure. Now, let's talk about the National Guard. Now, I know a lot about the National Guard because I worked from the National Guard for many years and recruited for the National Guard. Now, these are citizens' soldiers. These are your local people that live in the community. These are all Oregonians, right? are all Oregonians that are probably 99% of Oregonians maybe some from Vancouver because they're not really close yeah these are people that live in the community that probably have

an interest in the community so when they want to be safe and secure these are not like we're going to call up you know people from um up in Tacoma at the army base no these are local citizen soldiers what does citizen soldiers do they call up and secure things locally. The governor's so out of touch. She doesn't know what she's talking about. I was looking at the picture yesterday of her talking, and the politicians in the back, you know, you've got the mayor of Portland, and they're all standing in the nice area

down by the waterfront, which is not southeast Portland area. And there's a representative standing back there from the wrong area that the problems are in. They have representative chosen there, which I think he's from House District 46. The problems are in House District 38th. But that representative, Democratic representative is nowhere to be found. Oh. It's just amazing, Bill.

Yeah, I know that Nicholas Christoph from the New York Times famously or funnily over the weekend was talking about, you know, hey, it could be hell, but hell, you know, serves, doesn't serve Pino Noir, this good, you know, talking. As if you have the wine and the cheese and somehow that makes up for the neighborhood disorder. It is a... ...miles away from where the problems are. She was marching two miles away. I looked it all up and grabbed it out of two. Two-point-something miles. Come on.

So they were not doing their press conference where all the peacefulness was down by the ice center, right? No, they're doing with a waterfront where they're, you know, it's nice, and they have festivals and all the nice things, you know. Okay. Well, but still, this talk about bringing Oregon National Guard, in other words, citizen soldiers from Oregon to secure what's going on in downtown Portland around the ice building that will somehow trigger problems. Doesn't that put the lie to this claim that there's no problem in the city of Portland? Yeah, why would we send people to a place there's no problems?

I don't know. You could all just turn on the media, not the local news. I'm talking, go to, you know, the actual X or whatever else. They're putting... Well, you take a look at what Andy Noe is reporting or, you know, post-malinial and various other people who are paying attention to what's going on there. Yeah. Yeah, like we're all stupid. I mean, I don't live in southeast Portland, but it's not hard for me to find a video of the chaos going on.

And when you talked about boarding up the windows, well, why do you board up? up windows. You board up windows when people are throwing rocks and Molotovs at you, you know, is essentially what's going on. So, yeah, and yet they're going to, and yet they're going to cite them for a land use violation for boarding up the windows and cracks me up. I mean, not an aha way, you know? Do you think these ice guys want to get all dressed up in all this outfit, this riot

geared just for the hell of it? No, I went to what riot control. That's a lot of geared, you know, that's not what they want to do. They want to just do their job. Yeah. This is ridiculous. Well, my point is that honestly what we're seeing here is that this is a come-to-Jesus moment, I think, for a bunch of recalcitrant leftists who definitely need spanked.

And I guess you can't help but see politics, you know, or use the ideology of politics or where people are coming from politically. I mean, you can't avoid that. in the state of Oregon, when it comes to Portland, at least. No, you know, we're supposed to remember what they did to the federal building downtown. Let's remember what they did to the library at PSU, you know, was that $1.2 million with damage there. I mean, it's peaceful.

This is peaceful. You know, what I talk about peaceful protest, I, you know, people stand in front of the courthouse or standing in front of the post office holding a sign up, you know, but not throwing things, not spray paint, not breaking things. There's a big difference between peaceful protests and destroying taxpayer property. Yeah, that's kind of the way I look at it, too. I think it's the way most sensible people are looking at it. We'll see where it goes in the legal deal, though, because Dan Rayfield is on the case here, State Rep. Younger, he's protecting us from that evil, wascally Trump administration,

you know, trying to bring order, you know? all that guy does is fight Trump all day long. He has nothing to do with help Oregonians. That's too bad. He has TDS. Let us talk about then shifted here to what you're going to be doing this week. What are legislative days? Why is it important?

Why does it matter? And I hear rumor, well, rumor tells me that there's going to be a lot of talk on how much money is missing from the federal government. They would usually go to the state of Oregon. and you guys are going to be talking about trying to replace it, right? You know what we're doing right now? So let's start with legislative. Lesotho days are committee days. Sometimes we have testimony.

Sometimes we have a certain topic to prep for the next session. So for next year. So we'll be going through those learning about different topics, whatever it is from your committee. Yes, we've been told that the Democrats, are going to have a TDS session, how the big, beautiful bill has caused all these problems, which what they won't talk about is how the federal government is, you know, changing rules for overspending or using Medicaid dollars for illegals or able-bodied, you know, people to work.

They're basically going to use it to, it sounds like, for, you know, propaganda, for, you know, maybe next year's election, it sounds like it's all Trump's fault. Okay. I guess it's going to be a TDS session. Okay, so a TDS session then. Okay. What about the vote, the final vote, on the big transportation funding, which will be raising our taxes insanely?

Yes. The big, you know, let's don't get distracted with the downtown Portland. So, but yes, today the Senate is supposed to gavel in, supposed to. We, you know how that's gone at 9 a.m. and they'll be considering two bills. One is HB 3991. That's the budget bill for ODI. And the other one is all the changes to the laws,

the tax orgadian. So that debate will probably start sometime after nine. I would say at least 9.30 because they've got to go through all this formality. And then they'll debate it, which, and then they'll vote. I'm assuming if it happens, it's most likely going to pass. you know, emergency session that took a month, not much of emergency. We know why it was took a month. Well, what they had to wait for is the one senator who's in the hospital better now,

recovered, so he's there? Yes, yes. That means they needed every Democrat to vote, yes. Okay. All right, so fait accompli on this one, let me ask you. You're talking about how legislative days are committee meetings, and yet you ended up putting out a news release over the weekend talking about how you have been stripped. of most of these and yet you have been one of the most fervent truth tellers there in the state

legislature is that why they don't like you there yeah i would assume that you know i was in a higher education committee and they got some changes some people picked up another committee i lost the committee i'm down to one policy committee um higher education i was very outspoken on some dei and some unconstitutional um things that they were trying to pass Boy, talk about that being the state religion right now. Yeah, well, I able to kill two of their bills last session and a long session, and they're pretty mad at me because they didn't get to, you know, push these bills out there. You know, this is my opinion on it.

I've been very vocal about the discrimination they have of people. You know, I look at people as all one color. They look at them as, you know, everybody's a victim. them. So they are trying to silence me. I'm down to one committee, and that's economic development and train small business. Huh. That means that we're going to have even less truth told to us next year in the legislative session. Fair enough. I mean, I'm sorry to blow smoke up you, but I think there's a certain amount of truth there because you have been, I mean, a slave to telling the truth about what's

really going on there. I guess the Democrats, especially, but even a lot of Republicans, maybe Republicans don't even like hearing much truth up there. What do you think? Well, I'm not here just to get along with people. I'm up here to protect Oregonians, protect my district, protect Southern Oregon, and tell the truth. I mean, it's not hard to know where we're at. I mean, we've gone from a budget that's expanded, doubled in 10 years. We have We have horrible education that's happening in our schools. Everything's about race. Everything's about gender or your sexuality or who you sleep with.

And this coming from the governor, you know, let's remind people, the governor has never really had a job. She has a bachelor's and master's in some kind of, something of religion or something, studies. And she worked for nonprofits before she joined the legislature. That's all she's ever done. So this is what we get. We get an activist for a governor, not a business person or someone that's actually worked real jobs. So, you know, I'm fighting back against just nonsense. I'm hoping that Oregonians will wake up and start thinking of why we have all these problems.

You know, you were just talking earlier about our medical schooling. Why is this that way? Because it's coming from the top. you know, that's where the leadership comes from. So it's not just people running OHSU, it's the orders coming down from the Tina Kotex of the world that end up filtering down into why OHSU is going to focus and be a slave to DEI rather than just being the best darn medical school with the best darn candidates in it of all, right? That's where they're coming from.

It comes from the queen. The queen is dictating how Oregon should be. And that's why we have these policies. You know, just look at her speeches about, well, DEI is great. No, DEI is not great. I want the best doctor. I don't care what color skin they have. I don't care what they look like.

I mean, of all the professions where we're going in to have deep, amazingly intense and complex systems messed with in our body, you know, you just want the best person possible there, you know, being in there. and it's like, ah, you know, I don't care who's going to operate on my brain. You know, do they really think we're that stupid, huh? My dad has cancer right now, Bill. My dad has cancer, okay? I want the best doctor.

I don't care what he looks like. I want them to be able to cure cancer. Yeah. I look at it blind. I just want, I don't care. I mean, look at the best brain surgeon out there. He's a black man. He's retired, you know?

Oh, Ben Carson. Oh, I was trying to what you were talking about. that big, big cars, okay, finally came to me. Oh, man, I've got to tell you. You know, may we live in interesting times, and I'll tell you, in this state, we have that, just a boatload of that for sure here. What should we be watching for during legislative session? Because you say we're going to be looking at two bills, two bills that the Senate are going to address and most likely going to pass, and it's going to be about raising taxes. Could they pull a rabbit out of the hat and add anything else to this that we don't know about

right now. So they couldn't pull a rabbit out of their hat because the house is, we'd suddenly die, but we'd have to come back, we'd have to go back to committee. So if they do a change to anything. Yeah, they would have to gavel in. They'd have to gavel you all back in, and you're not right now, right? Well, we're kind of back in. We haven't died.

This is a really great. This is part of my letter out there. We're gaveling in every three days the speaker is. So we, because by rules, you have to because we haven't closed out because the Senate hasn't closed out. It's about keeping the emergency session alive, right? That's why they got it. But if they change anything to the bill, which they would have to change it before it goes to the floor. They just can't.

In our state, it has to change in a committee before it goes to the floor. So if they changed it in a committee, then we would be able to, then we'd have, and they voted yes on it, we would have to go back to our committee, pass it through our committee, and then hit it back to the floor again. Or, you know, I'm saying, we'd have to vote on it. Yeah, there'd be a lot that would have to be done. Okay, so we're just going to get, all right, so your $4.10, $4.15 will probably be, what, 410, 415 by the end of the month?

Is that how that works? I'm sure it's an emergency, right? It has to go into effect right away? It's probably going to an emergency, and, yeah, we're going to, whatever 90 days or whatever it's going to be. Okay. I haven't looked at the thing. So, yeah, just thank you. You're probably going to get a nice Christmas present from the Kotech.

Yay, that'll be great. From the Kotech. I like that. Let's refer to her like the Kotech. All right. State rep, Dwayne Yonker. Follow him on social media. There's always a lot of it.

You're pretty busy on social media, I've noticed there. And I guess you're not going to be busy on a whole bunch of committees today. So there you go. Keep us informed all the way. We like to keep the people informed of what's going on out there. the truth and you know if that's the way i got to do is social media then i'm going to use social media they're not going to shut me up bill i'm going to be talking well i appreciate that thank you state rep good having you on all right be well thank you have a good one state rep dwayne yunker

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Joel Scalzin is the editor, World Affairs Brief, and my only dog in the fight with Joel is the fact that I pay them, so I'm a subscriber. And I really enjoy reading what comes out every way. a lot of Friday, rather, a lot of good information. Joel, it is a pleasure having you back. Welcome for the great state of Utah. Still there? Good morning. Yeah, hi. Still am. Good to be with you, Bill. And remember, I'm a born and bred Oregonian. That's right. In fact, you wrote about Southern Oregon being a good place to strategically relocate. There was the strategic location, relocation book.

Now, do you think there's a possibility that we could be faced? nuclear war over the next few years, or is that something which is kind of off on the back burner for the time being? No, absolutely. It's on the hot burner, and the U.S. is actively preparing for it. The trigger event's probably going to be China's attack on Taiwan, and because that will bring North Korea into the fight if we try to stop China, which we are planning to do. I've got military sources telling me that.

Yeah. Well, of course, you see, now you're getting us all bummed up, or thinking, Boy, what happens to NVIDIA's stock then? I'm just kidding. Having fun. All right. But, you know, what I wanted to bring you on, like I said, you do a lot of great news, and you cover a lot of analysis in here, and I always appreciate where you come from.

Don't always agree, but I agree about 90% of it. Okay? Now, that's the beauty of this. The Charlie Kirk thing, there's been enough days that have gone by now, and you knew right from the beginning that you were going to have a lot of stuff who would be modified, and the official narrative would change. And then there was the big memorial service, and there has almost been a narrative of sorts which has been printed or created, but it's not particularly satisfying, and I'm really

surprised at the lack of actionable information that is out there. Are you, too, or not? because everything's what somebody said, you know, and we have somebody in jail right now, supposedly going to be awaiting trial, and there is not even been talk of ballistics and matching ballistics of what reportedly killed Charlie, the weapon used to kill him. What do you think in here? Well, that's right, Bill. The key evidence that is missing is the magic bullet, very similar to the JFK assassination,

where a bullet is supposed to have done a lot of damage and gone through two people and changed direction twice and then lands up in a pristine condition on the stretcher of Governor Connolly in the hospital. It was planted there. The reason I bring that up, and I brought it up in the World Affairs brief, is that we're missing the key piece of information that will tell what happened here because the great big anomaly that we're dealing with is a 30-od-6 fired from 139 yards, which is the exact distance of where this shooter, Tyler Robinson, was up on the other thing, would have gone completely through the neck of Charlie Kirk, and there was no exit one. And that defies credulity to me as someone who has fired 30-odd-sixes.

Oh, absolutely. Yeah, and it makes me, and you hear all this talk, well, this friend of Charlie was talking to the surgeon and that the bullet was found just underneath the skin and somehow it was stopped by the vertebrae is what they are alluding to. And that doesn't make sense to me. What about you? No, you see, at a 10% rise in angle, which would be the distance and 10% off the front side, it wouldn't even have hit directly into the neck.

It would have gone to the side of the vertebrae, so it's actually impossible. And the vertebrae wouldn't have even stopped it. It's not a strong bone. And they've got many, you know, side protrusions from a vertebrae, but it's a fairly soft bone, and it wouldn't stop. You know, a 30-out-six will go through, depending on the depth of the tree, you know, anywhere from between 24 and 36 inches of pine. And there's just no way, and neck is going to stop a 30-ish.

But there is talk about, though, that there was a miracle. That's how they described it in the Kirk Camp there. Well, as I said in the world, if you're going to have a. miracle why don't have the bullet missed yeah that would be a better miracle but you know still and I and I know that people are going oh Bill why are we going down this sort of situation but there's a part of me that wonders if they're even going to be able to really connect this crime to the alleged shooter what do you think from what are you here well I'll tell you if I were a defense attorney you'd have to say show me the bullet let's match it

to the rifle if you've got a bullet just under the skin that means it hasn't been deformed. I mean, there's no way it's going to bounce off the weak vertebrae and then come back and lodge just under the skin. And that's why there's two or three major theories now that have been floated around. And, you know, we've been able to discount, you know, most of them, a new one by Chris Martinson, MD, a doctor, which is probably the most exact scientifically. But let me just go through what the various theories are. I mean, we can discount the fact that this is a 30-odd-six bullet unless they pull out a pristine bullet, and then it's going to be the magic bullet that they plant it.

So that's how you're thinking at this point. All right now, let's talk about the one that I see. I think it was Jeff Rents. Jeff Rents lives down to Ashland. He's not too far from here, but he has famously posted a video, which seems to indicate the guy lifting up his his shirts, his hand, or whatever it is. In other words, this is the alleged palm gun that would be the palm gun theory that would have shot him.

What is your thought about that? It's an interesting video. If the bullet, if the bullet is in, you know, did not ricochet ab bones, which is nearly impossible to do, and it's found just under the skin, it would have to be a low velocity shot, which is something like a palm gun. Now, I've examined that video carefully, and you just see a recoil from his hand at the exact time the shot goes off. Now, there is a double crack, which is generally considered the supersonic crack, followed by the sound of the discharge. Yeah, the echo.

Bam, yeah, bam, not an echo. Oh, not an echo? No, no. This is a, this is the, you hear the supersonic crack through the air before the sound of the muzzle. explosion gets to you. So it's bam-bam, in a typical high-velocity shot. But this could also being close to surround them in a wall right down, it could have been an echo. That's what I projected. But it doesn't explain one thing. It does explain if they pull out a small bullet, there's not a 30-out-6, then it came from that palm gun. And if they don't have a 30-odd-6 then,

then the case against uh against tyler that tyler fellow it's it's it's collapsed it's gone then right absolutely absolutely that's why this is a problem they aren't telling i mean look andrew colvay the turning point who supposedly talked to the doctor said he extracted a bullet just under the skin there was no exit wound yeah no exit wound that means it wasn't a 30 odd six um and and he won't tell what the bullet is like. They talk about this miracle of not going through the neck. He must have necostia. Well, that just, I'm not buying that.

I believe in miracles, but I'm just not buying this. So where is that bullet? Now, I have called the Utah Medical Examiner because they don't have a coroner system here in Utah. They have a medical examiner, and you keep getting a message. They don't want to answer the phone, even though you're a journalist. I say, I just want to know, did you have a medical examiner on scene to examine him before he was flown out on Air Force 2? Was there a bullet found, and are you going to file a medical report? No answer.

They won't call me back. Now, this is very disturbing. See, these are the kind of developments that then create the vacuum in which, okay, well, if you're not willing to, you know, tell us on something happening and the highest profile political assassination, success. assassination that we've seen for quite some time. This is the sort of behavior that kind of pushes that, wouldn't you say? Absolutely. And the problem is they should have no problem answering at least two of my questions. One, did you have a medical examiner examiner before he left to that? That's required by the way, in a murder thing. Number two, are you going to file a medical report? Now, they won't even answer that. And so this is very, very suspicious, but we've got to

see the bullet. Now, the latest, you know, there was the theory that there was, it was shot from high into the right, and that this is an exit wound, but that doesn't fly because there is no entrance wound on the right side. Only, only one wound on the left side of the neck and no exit room. So there can't be a bullet going through the neck, period. Okay. We dismiss. All right. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt here. Please complete that thought, and then I'll move along. Well, I'm just saying, we could discount that theory. The newest theory by Chris Martinson is that he was shot from the left-hand side, which would match the impact of that,

and then it was from a higher roof, which would have gone and deflected off the vertebrae, which is possible and gone down into the body. Now, the only thing wrong with that theory is that that bullet could not have been retrieved right under the skin. So everybody has a theory that doesn't work. if what the doctor said is true. And we need an autopsy. We need a medical examiner report telling where the interest wound and why there wasn't an exit wound and where the bullet was found. Now, what the bullet looked like.

Yeah. Now, Joel, I've read some reports that say that we couldn't do this at this point because that Charlie had been cremated. Is that true? Is there any evidence to that? I'm trying to find the source. No, I didn't hear that he was cremated. Okay. All right.

Still, the bullet would have been extracted. But still, a medical examiner would take pictures of the source of the source. the wound. It would take pictures of the bullet, and then the bullet would be evidence in this trial, and so forth, there's no publicity evidence. Patrick writes me, a listener writes as we're talking right now. I'm talking with Joel Scounson once again, an excellent newsletter each week Friday. I get this. It's world affairs brief, world affairs brief.com. It's my only dog in this fight is that I pay Joel, but he's, you know, nice enough to come on to talk about this. What about the use of perhaps a

frangible round that would have broken up and that we're looking at, you know, just a small piece of something that actually ended up causing the grievous wound to Charlie Kirk? Well, a frangible round would still go in and break up, but that's very difficult to do in soft tissue unless it's scored and is fairly high velocity. If it was the palm gun, it wouldn't be high velocity, and you wouldn't extract a bullet. As I say, we just need to know what the surgeon saw, and nobody's talking, except we have this hearsay evidence from Andrew Colvay. And it's fairly detailed. I mean, talk about neck of steel.

I mean, this isn't something where you just have a casual remark. This is the detailed remark that this bullet didn't go through the neck very far. What about the, what about the, 30 out six? Yeah, what about the Paramount tactical video? This is one which many people have called the show about it and say, well, what about this one? There's a lot of what about isn't right now. I'm just asking for your opinion here. That's the one that posits about the ballistic shield in his front and ricocheting off of that.

Yes. Yeah. Now, that was the original theory that I saw, and I thought that was very, very good, except for one thing, he wasn't wearing a shield or an armor plate. In fact, you noted that there was a nipple showing through the T-shirt, right? And not only that. We've got all the videos showing the back. There's no strap showing through. It's a very thin T-shirt.

It's just impossible. Now, here's one of the key things, Bill, that really got me puzzled. There is a ballooning up of the shirt around the front and left side on impact. Now, Chris Martinson explains in the latest video, and he's got real. a real shooter. He's got real detailed ballistic information. He says when a 30 out six from a high angle comes down, there is

a ballooning of the flesh around, you know, because of the impact of the absorbing 2,000 feet, foot pounds of energy into the body and that it blows up all the skin around it and would blow up, you know, get his necklace to rise up and the microphone

to rise up. And of course, the slow velocity pulse, bomb gun doesn't explain that. There's not enough velocity to cause that. That's the... Yeah, you don't have enough of a shot. There's not enough of shockwave then to do what we was observed. That's right. Okay. And so that's why Martin's view of the shot coming down and going into the body, you know, and it does explain ballooning out of that. And of course, there's a video of the exploding microphone, and I completely discount that. If you had a bullet coming out of a marker, how would you aim at

property, and it would come off your chest and go straight up into the head and into the skull, and that's not what they say they found. It would be in the brain, not just under the skin. Now, you can't aim a bullet or determine where it's going to be. I just don't buy the exploding microphone, and that's a lot of it based on the ballooning of the shirt around to explain that. Okay, so the Jeff Rance video, you're discounting that, the Palm Gun theory, right? Not necessarily.

Not necessary. It doesn't explain. It doesn't explain the ballooning of the shirt. You see, every one of these theories has a flaw until we find out exactly what the wound looked like, how deep and what the bullet was found. Every one of them is contradictory to the hearsay evidence of what the doctor told Andrew Kughey, every one of them. Are autopsy reports in Utah considered public record like they are in some states? There is an exception for privacy on certain aspects of it, you know, for gruesome, you know, photos and other things.

And that may be what they're hiding behind on this. But yes, generally there is a public records law that it should be able to, you know, get an FOIA and get this report. But it may be limited to not pictures, but maybe, you know, written information. But that would be great if you had written information about the bullet, size, size, weight. and they wouldn't do ballistics there, but certainly the FBI should be doing ballistics, and they aren't saying anything about a bullet. Do you find it interesting that we haven't heard any reporting at all about the medical team that was involved in the hospital either?

Do you? Or is that standard? Well, right now I called Timono's Regional Hospital, you know, to find out who the doctor was. They won't tell me. So there's a lid on this, Bill. nobody wants that doctor to be, you know, hounded by the press, of course, you know, to talk about what he saw. Yeah, I get that, but, you know, at the same time, if the medical team were to say, you know, what they observed and it matches the so-called standard story, I wouldn't see the problem with it, but I guess, well, I know, the JFK assassination had the entire medical team of the Parkland Hospital, talked to the press, describe the wound, et cetera, and so it's not unusual high-profile political assassination to do that.

That's why I'm wondering why this is there's such a clamp down on the crucial information that would put to rest all of the theories except for one, at least, whichever one is correct. But that's why in the world for a brief, I didn't come to a full conclusion. I'm still waiting like Chris Martinson for the conclusive information, where's the bullet and what does it look like? because there's no way that any of us can claim to really know. We know Charlie's dead. I said that right in the beginning of this. I said the one thing that, the only thing that I'm really sure of is that Charlie Kirk is dead. Although, there are some journalists that are out there trying to say it was a fake death.

I know, yeah, and I just don't buy that at all. Yeah, I would have to see a lot of evidence about this, although one could make the case. In the first place, as Chris Barton said points out, who's a doctor, there's all kinds of evidence that there was massive shock to the nervous system and heart by the reactions of the arms, the jerkiness of everything, and that it wasn't, he was killed almost instantly. And when he toppled over, it wasn't the bleeding out that happened, you know, even though he did bleed out, of course. Now, you had Zinn who was there, too. What do you think about Zinn going up there, you know, the elderly man or the older man, who ended up saying that I did this. And that kind of

had got me scratching my head, too, before they ended up going on the search. This, this, yeah, he was clearly trying to protect the shooter and just divert police resources away from seeing the shooter. So this does speak to a conspiracy. Zinn said, you know, I was trying to protect the shooter, meaning he was sympathetic to the killing. And if, if Tyler Robinson isn't the shooter, and I'm almost 90% suit and he isn't the shooter, that brings, up a whole bag of worms in terms of how did the round, you know, get expended in the rifle? Did they fire it beforehand? Are they going to drop it in the evidence thing as something masses the rifle, a pristine bullet?

You know, there's all kind of, how did they fake his, you know, text message, confession to his gay lover? And there are some anomalies there that people are questioning. This doesn't sound like a 22-year-old gamer. You know, talking about terms such as squad car, things like that. You know, I have, I know quite a few 22, 23-year-olds. That's a term that never, that never ends, that enters their thought process. But then it would be a cop car or police car, but not squad car. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Yeah, the squad car, you know, car, you know, one atom 12. You know, that was a squad car era, but not now for sure. And then there's the anomalies of the video, the surveillance. video there, you know, he's running across the roof and you see the shadow on the roof, and then the shadow disappears as he goes across the white section of the roof, or it blips, it starts out, and then it disappears. And then you see a guy walking in the background, and he's walking on a sidewalk, and he disappears. This is a manipulated video. And if we have a manipulated video, that, of course, raises even more questions about why there

would be a manipulated video then that's right that's right so uh this has a lot of questions that are going to be unanswered it's a very murky story and uh we're going to keep watching it and uh i'm going to keep hounding the utah medical examiner's office till they give me an answer yeah and so we so we don't know if a medical examiner's report though is public record or not we don't know that right now or we do well we don't know that it's a public record but we don't know if there's an exception for privacy on the photos and other things. But they won't be able to hide this forever, I don't think. And nothing would actually make me happier than to have, you know, the standard narrative

that this Tyler Clown ended up doing it, right? I would like that. But the evidence and video of what had happened there doesn't seem to match the evidence so far. Is that a, or it doesn't match the narrative, or it doesn't? Yeah, absolutely. And the biggest contradiction, of course, is a 36-od round, you know, even if it were a lightweight, 150-grain bullet, you know, not having an exit wound. Just at a flat trajectory like that, entering in a low-left side of the neck, just doesn't make sense.

In fact, not to get too graphic, but would not a 30-odd-6, even a lightweight 30-odd-6 round entering his neck, wouldn't the shockwave, in essence, have probably taken a lot of the neck away? Yes. Yes, exactly. And it would have really blown, I mean, you know, I've seen, you know, deer and other things with a large portion of the neck blown away by a 36-out round, and it would be just, it just doesn't fit the scenario. Yeah. And our bottom line here, and like you said, in World Affairs Brief, you don't have a conclusion, and I don't have a conclusion either, but what does seem clear is that nobody can really have

anything conclusive right now with the evidence presented. That's right, and that's why it's incumbent upon the government authorities in Utah and the FBI to be more forthcoming about the bullet and about the entry, and that was the key, you know, to solving the JFK murder was the book by David Lifton called Best Medical, best evidence. It was on the best medical evidence and how when he arrived at Bethesda Naval Hospital he'd already had his front of his throat opened up where they removed the frontal bullet and removed other things and the brain was gone

and he'd already been autopsied before they'd delivered her over to Bethesda and the guy who took the x-rays of JFK was walking across the balcony and the mezzanine when Jackie Kennedy came in with the official casket, which obviously It was empty. All right. I mean, just incredible cover-up that they did in that mortar. But then my question would be, if there is a cover-up on Charlie Kirk, why?

You know, who benefits from such a thing? Yeah, yeah. That's a real question than I have. I mean, he was ineffective. And, of course, there's a lot of conspiracy theory about Israel doing this, and that the man in the brown shirt was an Israeli agent. I've looked at the pictures comparing him to this Israeli security agent. I don't see a match. You know.

I think there are much more subtle ways of taking care of Charlie Kirk rather than an out-and-out assassination. Absolutely. And it becomes so high profile and it becomes, it just backfires all over, you know, as it has. I mean, look at the backlash against the left, you know, who it's criticized Charlie Kirk after this shooting. It's, for whatever reason, if they're going to assassinate, you make a martyr out of him, and that's not the, and that's part of the reason why they killed JFK. Yeah, he was going to shut down FBI covert operations, but remember that JFK's far-leftist legislative agenda was dying in Congress, and it passed immediately after they killed him. The murder effect really works. Yeah, there is something, too, that Charlie Kirk is arguably more powerful now as a force than he was prior.

That's right. That's right. Joel Scalzin, World Affairs Brief, highly recommend it. And every week, I can't wait to see your email come in. How much it costs, by the way, since I've taken so much of your time this morning? It's $48 a year. It's only about a dollar a week, so it's not very expensive. But, you know, I know people are used to getting everything free on the Internet, but, you know, it takes a lot of time and effort to do what I do,

and I think a person should get paid for what he does. And I also appreciate the fact that you have looked at many of these, In fact, all these theories, really, in kind of the ceiling, here's the strength, here's the weaknesses, and, you know, and not having a dog in that fight of, you know, leaning up, putting your thumb on the, on the scale. Yeah. And I think that's useful right now. Joel, thanks for having joined the show. Always appreciate the talk, okay? Be well.

Pleasure. Pleasure, Bill. Thank you. This is KMED and KMED HD-1, Eagle Point Metford, KBXG grants pass.