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Episode Date: September 29, 2025

Emails of the day, Dr. Power Where past meets present including Bobb Doehr - Baseball Hall of Famer in the history sebment, into the legal analysis of the news, open phones wrap the morning.

The Bill Myers Show podcast is sponsored by Klausur drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausordrilling.com. Dr. Dennis Powers will be our pallet cleanser when we first talk about some local history and then we dig into all sorts of the news, including, yeah, we're talking about the National Guard being deployed to Portland. Portland, of course, and the state of Oregon, suing against this trying to stop it. talk about the legalities about this and a whole bunch more. How about some emails of the day?

Emails of the day, and those are sponsored by Dr. Steve Nelson and Central Point Family Dentistry. Central Point Family Dentistry.com. Some great people over there. By the way, I've received, what, two, three, I think it's three crowns that I've received over the years with them. And you know the beauty of us? Now they have an in-house lab and they can get the pictures taken with their computer gizmos and all this other stuff and have you.

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Coincidentally, I recently received a diagnosis for a serious condition and met with the local MD to review it. And we discussed treatment options. This MD told me that the next step is for me to have an online Zoom-type meeting with a doctor at OHSU, guess so, presumably to confirm the local diagnosis. I think this amounts to a second opinion, which, of course, I want to need. It also sounds like the state is stepping in to oversee the process. But after I heard about OHSU's low DEI-related rating, I get the impression that I should seek out request a second opinion from another source.

Any ideas? No ideas jump off the top of my head on this anonymously designer. But I'll tell you what, I will ask around. The one thing I will say is that if it's oncology, many of the oncologists, I'll give you my personal experience with Linda. Linda, of course, had her surgeon, was someone who was from OHSU, in fact, is now running the OHSU. If it's oncology, they seem to have a pretty darn good set up. up there. But the people that are in the oncology department for the most

part are older doctors that were brought into the system, I think, before a lot of the DEI was taking or was taking root there. So it could be kind of a hidden miss sort of thing there. I appreciate you. I'll try to find out. I'll do

my best anonymous emailer, okay? Betty writes me this morning about the conversation I just had with Joel Scouse and Bill. I read some days ago that Charlie's wife took pictures of Charlie Kirk and seems like she may have some answers. She was encouraged not to do it, but she

did anyway. Has anyone asked her questions about when she saw him? I don't know if they have or not, because it's not something I've seen reported. Doesn't mean they haven't, Betty, but appreciate your writing. Let's see. Hans writes me this morning, Bill, the swamp is boiling because SCOTIS is revisiting Article 2

powers to fire supposed independent ABC bureaucracy agency heads. They claim that dawn as being too executive by removing insubordinates in agencies that don't support its administrative policies. You see, only all the other executive branches get that constitutional privilege, but not this one. It's being sarcastic, of course.

According to the imperial bureaucrats, they must be granted due process overseen by their pack of wolves. They claim it is so overreaching, in effect. We have 350 million people here, now versus the 1,700s, he writes. If the Imperial bureaucracy branch has to approve all moves by all branches, it's just more proof of the existence of the Truman Show. Political parties don't like it, but it's in Article 2. We have three branches, not four or five.

Hans Albuquerque, great take. I appreciate your writing. The email bill at Billmyers Show.com. We'll get the latest from Fox News all the way. Dr. Dennis Powers, we're past meets president after that. is not over yet and there's till night 68 tuesday and wednesday 13 minutes after eight dr dennis powers will join us here for aware past meets present we'll get him on here in just a couple of minutes or so bismarck you went to the way in this morning and uh what topic did you want to to spin away on what do you

say good morning everyone's talking about that nicholas cage movie being predictive programming about Charlie Kirk. Yeah, the snake guy's movie with the, what, the Kirkland, Kirkland was the name of the person shot, et cetera, that kind of thing, right? But I'm going to go to try to refresh people's memories. So the MASH TV series, the TV show MASH, they always had people on there that did like one episode, and a lot of times they were young upcoming stars. Well, Patrick Swayze was a star on MASH as a younger man, and he was in an episode

where his buddy was shot and was dying, and he wanted to donate an organ to save him. And Hawkeye said, no, you can't because you're dying of pancreatic cancer. And then what did Patrick Straezy die of all those years later? Pancreatic cancer. Huh. So is that predictive programming even? And there's several episodes.

It's on almost everything you watch. If you go back far enough and you rewatch, like, movies of the future, like Demolition Man, oh, my God, everybody should rent that movie and rewatch it. Are you thinking that, in essence, Hollywood is used, from the sounds of it, as you're saying, Hollywood is used to program us for certain outcomes? Is that your theory there, I guess? Exactly. Because why would they say specifically he was going to die of pancreatic cancer? And then that's what he died in the real world. And it was Patrick Swayze as the character in the MASH episode.

It's just one of those things. So people should look it up, watch that episode, and you'll be like, oh, my goodness. Okay. Well, that's an interesting, an interesting theory. And, well, I've wondered about some of the movies that come out there, predictive programming with artificial intelligence, predictive programming involving, you know, the disclosure of... Yeah, if you guys go look up the old one with Sylvester. Mr. Stallone, the demolition man, where it was such a joke with all the young people

on their phones, and they couldn't function without the phone. Maybe there was more to it than we thought. Hey, I appreciate the take on it. Bismarck good here from you, okay? Dr. Powers, he's going to join me here in a couple of minutes, and I'm looking forward to that. We'll have a little pallet cleanser, talk about history, and then get right back into the heavy stuff, I guess.

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different areas for us, Bill. He, Bobby Door, actually, it was a sports prodigy. He was 16 years old when he first started playing in the Pacific Coast League. And then, at age 18, he started playing full-time with the Boston Red Sox, set a number of records. Basically, he had gone ahead and was ultimately appointed and voted into the Hall of Fame. His fielding was excellent, over 400 straight games without an error, lots of different areas that he led the league in, All-Star for nine years. He lost one year in 1945 when he did his duty for the armed forces. And in terms of his hitting, it was enough to where he had, it was voted into the Oregon Sports Hall of Fame, the National Baseball Hall of Fame. But

The things that really stood out about him was the fact that he lived until he was 99 years old. Holy, moly. I guess baseball keeps you young, huh? Well, you know what's so great about this one, Bill, about Bobby Dorr, and, you know, people have heard about the juiced, you know, Barry Bonds and McGuire, you know, the juicers. But he wasn't a juicer, and he was one who loved fly fishing, all the river. the rogue, a lot of different Oregon places. And the moral of the story was that if you want to live to a long, happy life, be an independent or Republican, and don't go ahead and juice up. But the other thing that really stood out is not only that there's John Schleining's Paradise Lodge

in the Wild and Scenic section, in honor of Bobby Dorman. fishing in his life, named a room for him in that one annex that you can go to when you're going down through a blossom bar and heading down the wild and scenic. The other thing was, was that his average bill, his average salary was $24,000. That might have been pretty good money back in 1930 something, but when you average it out over the year, boy, it shows you how these sports salaries have just exploded in recent years. Yeah, plus that, his highest one was 27,500, and you look at Mike Trout, for example, Mike Trout, $425 million, $40 million a year, who with different problems that he's had physically

has really fizzled out over the last four years. But the key thing, though, is that when people were talking to Bobby Dorr, he just said, you know, I played, and we had more fun. and it was a great time to play sports, to fly fish on the Oregon rivers, and it's a great life. And then you take a look at the unhappiness that's going on with some of these overpaid players, Bill. And you know what's so amazing is the fact that here, you know, they're getting paid maybe $10 million a year. And they're grousing, and they're unhappy. They want to trade.

Well, it's interesting when you look, not even just at baseball. Did you see that William's sister? I forget if it was Venus or the other Williams' sister. Oh, probably Serena. Serena. She always wasn't happy. Yeah, yeah. Serena was out of the bed.

And remember, Serena Williams is worth $350 million. So it's not exactly like a, like this is someone who is like really. super oppressed but at an event that she was at they had decorative cotton up there which is a very pretty plant right and then the first the first thing she's doing right now remember worth 350 million everybody loves there everybody's always going everywhere and so she was uh picking at the cotton picking at the cotton which was a decorative plant within the uh in other words going into like you know it's it's almost like left unsaid was as a black woman how can you have cotton plants up here as a decoration up here in the wall.

It's like, oh. Yeah, yeah, and that's so unfortunate because they start criticizing, and part of the reason is, is that there is a fear of the far-left radicals, BLM, and some of these others. Oh, so maybe, so Venus or Serena, I think it was Serena did that. So she's thinking, if I don't do this, then she loses DEI points? Oh, oh, absolutely. Oh, and also. Okay.

At $350 million, you're worth $350 million, but you've got to be worried about that. Well, yeah, and also she probably has a platoon of people who are security guards for her, checking out all the entrances and everything. And by the way, we've got to make sure that there is no decorative cotton in the room. Make sure and do that. That'll be the next thing. It's kind of like M&M's in the Van Halen concert writer, okay? And you know, it's so amazing when you go into it is that there's 8 billion people on this planet,

$8 billion. And with all these people, of course, we are much more fortunate in terms of being in this country and the things that we're able to do. But when you take a look that all of us are motivated by the same thing, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, and to be grousing about, you know, that you have to play PR instead of being able to really do something to help the entire community, all people, It just makes, you know, folks like Gandhi are really the those who stay with us forever. Yeah, people who truly – well, people who really suffered.

Okay, well, we'll leave it in that. I'll put up the Bobby Doorpost here for you in just a moment. We'll get that up on K&E.com. It's a great story about a baseball great from our past, okay? Now then, we've got to talk about what's been going on in Portland. Are you ready to do that? You know why I'm laughing, Bill? Why?

It's because no matter what happens, this little state with Salem and its brain-dead representatives always manages to come out nationally where people and broadcasters are saying they are so stupid. Well, we certainly have a tendency to step right in it, and we'll dig right in with that next on where pass speaks present. On to the present side. Dr. Dennis Powers next. Great to see you. Come on in. Hi.

Thanks for letting me stay in your guest room. This is News Talk 1063, KMED. And you're waking up with the Bill Myers Show. Back with Dr. Dennis Powers, retired professor of business law. We're past meets present. Hey, Doc, before we get on to the Oregon craziness, which is always fun. Got to do that. We have John Schlining, whose ears were burning, apparently, as we were.

talking about Paradise Lodge. How you doing? Welcome back, John. Good to have you on. Yeah, good morning. I just wanted to say about Bobby Dore. He used to stay at Paradise Lodge all the time, and he loved it so much that he actually bought a cabin just down below Paradise Lodge, where he lived for 40 years or so. I mean, he lived there. He lived his life outright, overlooking the river, just down from Paradise Lodge. Very cool. Very cool, so. Yeah, you know, John, when I had gone to numbers of times, you know, the wild and scenic, when I would stay over at DeLodge, I remember seeing the way that those rooms were being named, and that was one where Bobby Doer had to be

on our past and present. Yeah, he was a tremendous gentleman. He had always talked to anybody about anything about baseball. He was very, very kind, and just a tremendous player, of course, but just very kind. Just to mention one more thing about the Lodge. There's 17,380 acres burning all around it. It's burned all the way down to Foster Bar where it's 14 miles. It's burned. Wow. And now, I guess you're at this point, we're just waiting for the rains to come,

and it does appear that rain is coming in your neighborhood, isn't it, John? Yeah, it's raining there right now. Agnes, you know, where they had their setup for all the forest service, they just had to evacuate that, and they moved down to Gold Beach. I mean, it's unbelievable that it burned 14 miles so far. That's a lot of forest. Boy, I'll say. I really appreciate the report there, and John, glad that the lodge has been saved,

and hopefully they can save some more. And Nature's firefighter coming today, big time. They saved all the lodges so far. All right, great news. Thank you for the call, John. Appreciate the update there. John Schlining is the owner of Paradise Lodge. It's 834.

All right, Doc. Here we go. You betcha. Portland. Portland. I have to tell you, you know, it's so amazing to be listening to how national broadcasters are talking about, basically, if I could paraphrase, the idiots in Portland, far left, who were going ahead, and of course our governor, who is going ahead and saying, oh, everything is. peaceful and calm. And there's nothing here that would merit having any types of National Guard here in Portland. Now, let me ask you, as a point of law, as a point of law, Dan Rayfield, who is the

attorney general, is suing along with the city of Portland, along a lot of other people to. They're suing to stop the Trump administration from deploying Oregon National Guard troops to the streets of Portland surrounding the ice facilities for 60 days. Is there, of course, one of the things they're bringing up there is a violation of the Posse Comitatis Act. And I'm wondering if you could reference that. Do you think that that is a strong claim coming out of the city of Portland and the state of Oregon? Is there an issue or is the temporary nature of the order from President Trump's 60 days? Does that somehow assuage those kind of concerns?

How do you see this as a point of law, huh? Well, legally speaking, the first thing is that on the posse comitatus, you know, that act, which in posse conventatus really means the power of the county. It's Latin. And so in any event, it's that you cannot use federal troops or armed forces for, quote, unquote, domestic law enforcement. This goes back to right after the Civil War, where this act was really brought in due to reconstruction and the problems they were having in reconstruction. Wasn't it essentially about wanting to make sure that local law enforcement could remain local to an extent? Is that why that was about? Well, that and also the idea being was that they did not want to have after the Civil War to have insurrections that could happen.

underneath that guise in the south. And, of course, it was the Democratic Party that was embracing slavery that caused the assassination of Abraham Lincoln and caused the Civil War, just like they're doing now over immigration, you know, with the same type of thing. And the key thing here is that back, oh, just only about almost a month ago, a Clinton-appointed federal district judge had ruled that this act applied to the National Guard that came into Los Angeles. Of course, duh, like we're really surprised.

And the key thing there is that here you have Salem going ahead and doing the same thing, because the fact that this is the closest that our brain-dead Salem representatives are going to be able to come nationally and yet again be poked at and really satirized, you know, for the... Oh, yeah, no, they deserve to be satirized, but I want to focus on the law here for a moment, though, is because these are not national military troops. These are federalized Oregon National Guard. These are Oregon, or maybe across the, maybe over in Vancouver a little bit. These are local troops that are being federalized there. That's the detail. So is that the detail, though, that gets missed?

So it is not a federal troop, even though it is a federalized state troop. Is it the same as the federal government doing it? That's what I'm again. There's a lot of those type of arguments going through. My personal feeling is that what Oregon is trying to do, which is, did such a great job to let us so you go into the financial dumps as they were helping the homeless. The key thing here is that this will be overturned in the Supreme Court, and it's again a play for showing that they have been really very soundly californicated. On the legal side,

they're going to try to go for a TRO, temporary restraining order, and depending on who is going to get involved with it, we might be seeing that coming in. But like California's approach to go ahead with Bill, all of the ICE officers to demass them, the federal government and Trump really has the law on its side, really does. I do find it ironic. I mean, I imagine you probably find it ironic, too, that organs all upset about ICE agents having masks on, while at the same time you have Antifa types that are patrolling. And they're They're always wearing masks. I find that interesting, don't you?

Well, yeah, and all of these arguments totally missed the point because what it comes down to is that, first of all, the Democratic Party has surged too much to the left out of Soros and the funding coming into it, plus the fact that these people have created a monster that they're afraid of being the far-left radicals like Antifa, and they're not going to go ahead and come back to the rest of the citizens that are the vast majority of this country, which is why the Democratic Party is going to be shellacked again. And this is just not my thought. This is that of those who are close to it in Washington, D.C.

That's why it has the lowest approval rating. Yeah. Well, it might be a little bit, it may be a little bit early to make that prediction. I mean, we could be right. I hope you're right. But that being said, what I was kind of. curious about is that all of our state officials, including even some communist front groups, which is like the Oregon working, you know, working families party, you know, that kind of thing. We know how that game is played.

They're all concerned, and they express the same thing. I think the memo went out. They're all concerned about the possibility that nationalized Oregon National Guard troops or federalized Oregon National Guard troops being brought to downtown Portland over by where the problems are by the ice facility would actually cause tensions, would actually cause tensions. And I was under the impression seeing the reporting from alternative sources that the problem is already there. And in some ways, if there are more tensions with having the National Guard troops there,

that would seem to indicate there was a problem. Am I wrong or right in my analysis or judgment on that? What do you think? Oh, no, I totally agree. You know, with the analysis, of course, Bill. But on the other side, what really concerns me are the words. All I'm hearing are the reasons why common sense dictates different conclusions. But we're going to still have these suicide shooters,

and we're going to still be having suicidal antifa all throughout there until we come up with practical ways of letting these people know that they are prone to being not only arrested, but jailed. Is this really a protest against a daddy coming into Spanku? Is that really what we're dealing with here in Portland? You know, I'm old enough, as I believe you probably are too, Bill, to remember the Vietnam demonstration? Yes.

I'll never forget my entire life back in Boston. When I listened to the Chicago 7 at Harvard, and what they were doing, my friend, was railing against the government in terms of a brutal and uncivilized war. And I looked around at all these students supposedly bright, but so naive, and listening to the roars of the crowd thinking, this is the problem, and it's free speech that's used against us. Don't we love, my friend, the way that we have, you know, the far left saying, oh, it's free speech. No, you can't yell fire in a closed movie theater. No, you cannot advocate violence. But, yeah, does free speech mean that you can break the windows at ice? No.

Okay. That's it. And meanwhile, Portland then puts a lane use violation, a code violation, in essence, on ice because the lower. windows are boarded up. That didn't happen in a vacuum, did it? Well, the businesses that have moved out of Portland, including folks that I know, because one of the things when I was teaching at SOU was the fact that it was community involvement. And so myself and other business professors had gone ahead and were freely consulting with businesses as to how they could become more successful. Okay.

All businesses in Portland. Yeah, I get that. Now, the final question I would have for you about this issue here, and we'll have to see what happens in the courts. But President Trump says, using all force necessary, does that mean live ammo? That would include having live ammo, except the key thing, and I'm glad to see he's doing this, it's time to stop the words. analysis, it's time to stop these suicide shooters. They put their own riflemen on buildings

with scopes, but so they could see. So you think there are more of those ice shooters waiting to do this? But the other thing that I think to do this practically, because, you know, I've just finished, I just cannot go ahead and listen anymore to all this. wonderful reasoning as to why what Antifa is doing is wrong and all the reasons why there's political violence. It's time to stop the violence. A beautiful way of doing it was a very small little news release that was made, which is where the FBI had said in AOC's district that they had told some of the gangs that the gangs had been infiltrated. It's time to do rather than

talk. All right. Dr. Dennis Powers, retired professor of business law. Hey, doctor, before we take off, what should we know or look for in the combing indictment? Oh, my friend, I have to tell you, you know, you could see the applause that came in in terms of when that came in, because if there's any FBI director who had gone ahead, had and had taken what is the worst, worst controversy, worse than Watergate to go ahead and spy on an existing president being Trump and to be not only confidentially putting in

information to the New York Times, but lying to the FISA court so they could spy on the president administration. it's about time. And of course, the far left and the New York Times. Well, they're calling this retribution, but is it really retribution to hold someone who politicize their position accountable? I don't know. What do you think? Well, yeah, but you see on the analysis, retribution or not, what did we go through for four years underneath Biden in terms of the use of the FBI having to do with Board of Education meetings on just trying for parents to know, my friend,

exactly what teachers were telling their students on transitioning. Yeah, I guess a little to, a little, you protest too much, in other words. Well, this is the Che Guevara approach, which is deny, deny, deny. People have short memories, and what Trump went through, what the whole country went through, To have these minions start talking about retribution, it's all about the New York Times and the fish rapper media that's trying to keep their little bits of subscribers as they push for Mombani and socialism. Yeah. By the way, Eric Adams dropped out of that race this morning. I don't know if you saw that story.

Yeah, what did you think about that one, Bill? I think that is helpful, and I think that it will reduce some of the votes splitting. I don't know if that means necessarily that Curtis Slewa has a better chance. I'll have to take a look at that, though, but I think it is a more positive development than negative at this point, okay? Do you think he'll become a director nice? Could be. Could be after all that. Hey, Dennis, have you checked the price of gold lately?

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News Talk 1063, KMED. All right. Back to the phones as we wrap up the morning here. It's 851-7705-633. The Reverend David, David, take it away, front and center. You're here. Hey, I heard an interview with the mayor of New Orleans not too long ago. And what we said there is the federalization of National Guard troops is nothing new.

They do it all the time for floods, for earthquakes, something like the things. She says that the federalization means that, you know, the only thing that means is that the federal government picks up the path. But does that also not mean that the federal government is also directing the action? Well, yes, they are doing that, but they do that for floods, for hurricanes, for everything else, too. Well, the way I look at is that everybody knows that Portland has been loath to really enforce. the law and keep the peace there. Everybody knows this. Everybody knows this. We're being told to say that, are you going to trust Governor Kotech with the mayor of Portland

or your lying eyes? That's essentially what we're being, you know, asked to believe right now. And so I think that, you know, if nothing else, this will help break, this could break the cycle of violence there. Or frankly, if it does heat up, well, then I guess there's going to be a lot of Antifa people who will be brought in on charges. We'll see how that goes. That's all they can say. The worst that can happen is it could be like Washington, D.C. You could go out and walk the streets at night now. What a concept.

I know, David. Perchere the call. Good hearing from you, as always. 7705-633. Brad's here. Hello, Brad. About Antifa, speaking of which. Go ahead.

Bill, we are about to find out everything that anybody wanted to know about Antifa, but we're afraid to ask, and why is that going to happen? Because we now have Antifa designated. as a domestic terrorist organization. That opens up a whole box of tools that have not been available before. For example. And Harmeet Dillon, the assistant attorney general for civil rights, has a long history of looking into these people. Now the federal government is getting involved. We're going to find out a lot of interesting things about Antifa, and I'm guessing also where the money comes from to run this thing. Well, I'm going to talk to her. I think I can slip that in.

And tomorrow morning, Harmeet Dillon, who is the assistant AG over at, you know, DOJ, Department of Civil Rights. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. You're going to have her on your show? Yeah, we're going to have her on tomorrow morning. And I had invited her on because there was the lawsuit that the feds had filed against the state of Oregon regarding the voter rules and cleaning those up. And naturally, the state of Oregon has been dragging its feet on this. So we'll get the latest on that. And I don't think there's any problem with me probably slipping in a quick.

Antifa question too while you're at it. Okay. Bill, you are amazing. Wow. Well, sometimes all you have to do is ask, and I got lucky this time. Okay? Got lucky. Wow. Wow. So that will be 7.30 tomorrow morning. So if you wanted me to ask a specific question about that, slip it to me. Could you do that? All right? Oh, Bill, thank you so much. What a fantastic opportunity. Yep. I'm looking forward to it too. now when you have a big federal official like that booked then i also start getting nervous will it actually happen but they have promised that they're coming all right so we'll see army dillon tomorrow morning around 730 hi good morning this is bill who's this hey bill it's wild salmon hey steve what's going on um on that charlie kirk thing

yeah we had a lot of conversation with joel scousin at world affairs brief and going over the various the various theories because nothing really matches the evidence presented so far other than the fact that we know that Charlie Kirk is deceased. Okay? And so it was worth mention it.

Let me throw a couple of curves into that, okay? Okay. But he's shooting a World War I rifle that had been re-barreled because those Mousers were originally 8mm and there, he was shooting a 30 caliber bullet through it. Yes.

And we don't know what bullet he was shooting. I have experienced shooting early 30-calibur, I don't want to say, the manufacturer's bullet at elk. And they were terrible. They didn't hardly go through the skin. So we found another bullet made by NOSLAR that works wonderfully. I don't think you could conflate or make Charlie Kirk's neck skin the equivalent of a deer hide, though, or an elk? Okay, I hear what you're saying there. However, it appears the original impact was probably in the area of his collarbone.

And that might be enough if it was a poorly designed bullet to make the bullet fragment in the jacket come off. Yeah, you're right. Nothing has been presented with that, though. In fact, there has not been in an even talk of matching the bullet to. the suspect's gun at this point. Nothing has been discussed at this point. It would almost be impossible to find the bullet

because it would be the jacket and then the lead core. The lead core would be useless. It's the jacket that you would need. All I'm going, though, are the Charlie Kirk guy who supposedly talked to, and it's the hearsay once again, saying that, well,

gosh, you know, it's like it was a miracle, it was stopped by the vertebrae, and that it was just beneath the surface, which it strains credulity from my point of view, okay? Well, strange things happened, Bill. I was a surgical technician during the Vietnam War. I saw things that you couldn't believe. So when it comes to bullets and trajectories, it's hard to predict what really happened.

And on that, I will agree. But I will also say, I think my final comment on it is that I'm kind of with Joel that nobody knows exactly what happened at this point. We really don't know, at least from the evidence being presented right now. It would help to know what ammunition he was using, whether there were reloads or whether they were World War I era. Something tells me they're not using World War I era 30-odd-6, but we'll see. Talk about that tomorrow, Steve.

Thanks for the call.