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Episode Date: October 1, 2025

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The Bill Meyer Show podcast is sponsored by Klausur drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausor drilling.com. Here's Bill Meyer. I'm delighted to have you here on Wheels Up Wednesday, taking your calls at 7705633-7-0K-A-Mody. One question I want to throw out to you is that are you concerned at all about the possibility of normalizing National Guard on our troops? as much as I would love to see the dirtbaggy behavior brought to heel, and it needs to be brought to heel.

I'm not so sure I like the idea of calling out the National Guard on something like that. What do you think? We can talk about that in other things this morning, too. Before we get to the calls, and we'll certainly do this. Bob Shan says, hey, Bill, this is how we will take care of the problem around the ice center, the ice center in Portland. It says, install a bicycle lane around the first. federal building, then nobody will use it. A nice buffer.

Bob, I'm going to give you a real American salute. If you can laugh at the absurdity of it all, where's my button? My mouse isn't working. Okay, there we go. My track ball was recalcitrant. I couldn't go to the little button there. But anyway, Real American Salute. Bob, I always appreciate that. Email Bill at Billmyershow.com. also betty says um bill that guy over at the dollar store or the dollar general store and he's charged with all sorts of crimes but he's accused of trying to rob the dollar store the dollar general in merlin on merlin on merlin road yesterday morning about 830 or something like that

throwing muriatic acid on a couple of the employees that's serious stuff that stuff burns like crazy. Hopefully the employees are okay. And Betty says, Bill, the guy has to be just crazy. I just hope that the acid didn't get in their eyes and face. We used it on our bathroom plumbing as well in the kitchen. Iron in the water is what you need. It is very toxic to inhale. And she also adds, there is a difference in the Dollar General Store. There are a normal store with all the different prices of a normal store. And then there's Dollar Tree. Started out as all things a dollar and then they went up to a buck and a quarter. And one of the stores was remodeled. Betty says, I was just over to Dollar Tree a week or so ago, and their prices are getting much higher than a buck in a quarter.

Maybe we could just rename them the dollar going down in value, value store or something. I don't know. Pretty soon the buck will be a $3 store or a $4 store. I was wondering how long that was going to be able to keep that up, you know, calling it the dollar store. But anyway, we can kick it around here. 7705-633-77-K-M-ED emails of the day, sponsored by Dr. Steve Nelson at Central Point Family. Dentistry, Central Point Family Dentistry.com. Great place.

All right. Let me go to Crazy Gene. Crazy Jean, haven't heard from you for a while. How are you, my friend? By God, I'm still crazy, and I can't help it. Good for you. Good for you. We're always happy to have a good crazy take on something.

Fire away. Yeah, I got to think, and we're in terrible dead here. What the best way to end that dead? Why don't we tell tickets to the advanced intelligent races out there to come and see the stupidest creatures that have ever existed anywhere in the universe. And they can come here and they can check out the homeless people out there, going to the bathroom, and then sleeping there. And then they could watch them shooting drugs.

And then going to public school to where when they come out, they're dumber than they were when they went in. Oh. In other words, turning the state of Oregon into an open-air zoo is what you're saying and selling tickets. Well, zoos make a lot of money. I mean, and the aliens, I'm sure they got all kinds of free energy and all kinds of stuff. They could sell to buy tickets to come here and see this in event and act.

Yeah, the problem, though, is that I don't know if the aliens would have any money to give us, you know, to be able to see our open-air zoo, because what they usually have in those flying saucers, according to the coast-to-coast A.M. types, I think, is, you know, things like, you know, cow anuses or, you know, whatever it is. You know, they always core those things out. That's what they always said on coast to coast. Yeah, yeah. They'll do some probing.

There's absolutely no doubt. That's just what you get when you get an alien. Yeah, but I thought that they have taken the anal probe to the absolute maximum. You know, there's no more tech that they can use. No, no, no. They can always improve it for our own comfort and peace of mind. All right. Thank you very much.

Crazy Jean, that's the craziest call for a long time. Great. Would you keep it going in this? spirit of things. If we can't laugh at our craziness in Oregon, yeah, selling tickets, come see the wild liberal, the wild urban liberal in his or her native, well, of course, we can't say his or her because that is, you know, dealing with biological determinism, right? We don't want to do that. That would be insensitive. But in their wild habitat, and it's like you're going into Portland and, let's say, you want to, you want to draw the wild urban

liberals out and you're yelling out there, Ice agent! Ice agent! And then they pop up out of the weeds. Like, cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo! And then you can blast them. It can be like a hunting, you know, kind of like a hunting reservation. And then we're for it. Yeah, why not? Come and see it. Come and see the urban campers. Anyway, let's talk with Cliff. Cliff, you're keeping an eye on the rentals here in the state of Oregon. The new numbers came out of the state of Oregon just last night from what I recall correct okay so what's going on

House bill 3054 was targeted well it passed in this legislative session in it and it targeted manufactured parks also known as mobile home parks because a lot of the residents there have been getting their space rent increase and there are some places that the rest space rent is over a thousand dollars a month So they've instituted another rent control bill, and when the Office of Economic Analysis put out their news bulletin, it wasn't really clear on the rent, the maximum amount of rent that you can increase. All right, I have the releases. There's a couple of releases in front of me that I ended up printing out last night about this, and one of them was a correction. Right?

And did you get the correction? Hello? I haven't looked at it yet. Oh, okay. All right. Well, I'm seeing here 9.5% is the maximum rental increase that we can get in 2026. For rental facilities, 15 years or older, 30 or fewer spaces. Maximum rent increases 9.5%.

Is that what you're seeing? Correct. Okay. And, okay, so what, the 30 or fewer spaces? is in manufactured parks, or mobile home parks. So if that fits the bill with your renter or your owner, you can increase the rent 9.5%. But if it's 30 or more spaces in a manufactured park,

your cap at 6% rent increase for the year. Yes, that was what ended up coming out here. The lower maximum rental increase established by that bill, 6%, only works with manufactured home parks and floating home marinas that have more than 30 spaces. So it's a lower deal, lower rent increase allowed, if it's a big manufactured home development. Correct. All right. And then also tucked in the bill was periodically if manufacturer park needs upgrades,

like the sewer, water system, or, you know, paving or whatever, then they can go to the tenants and say, we need this improvement, and the tenants can vote on it and say, yeah, we want it, or nay, we don't want it. And it can't go outside that 6% rent increase. How do you think this is going to affect the landlord world? Because I look at 9.5% I'm thinking, boy, that is a huge rent increase. Even 6% to me is looking pretty high these days. What do you think? Usually rent increases with landlords is anywhere in the realm of, I don't know, 2,000.

have three percent to five percent. But what happened is when they passed Senate Bill 608 back in 2019, that landlord to have multiplexes, and that's duplexes and up, that if you don't keep up with current rent prices and you go to sell the property and you have below market rents, the buyer is going to come in there and look at that. and try to pencil it out, and if you have below market rents, you're going to get a lower offer on that property because when they take it over, they can't increase the rents to catch up. So it behooves you much to the regret, I imagine, of rental occupants, you know, the actual renters themselves, it behooves you to keep up with your rent increases. Is that kind of what you're telling me, Cliff? the law makes that pretty much a happen thing?

Right, and multiplexes and above. If you've got a single-family resident, that's a little bit different because more than likely if you sell it, then you're going to get top dollar on the property because you're not constricted with the rental. And then usually single-family residences that are rentals, a person buying it is going to usually occupy the property. So there's a procedure. It's called the 90-day notice that you can give the tenant in there that the new buyer is going to occupy the resident. All right. Well, the bottom line here is that there's still a shortage of affordable housing. And the one thing I don't hear

anybody talking about is getting rid of Senate Bill 100, getting rid of the urban growth boundary, and getting rid of state lane use planning. I mean, isn't that really the root of the problem of everything that we're dealing with, and we're trying to paper it over with rent control, Cliff? Well, that's part of the problem. The other is the bureaucracy with permits and fees and SDCs and, you know, that whole ball of whack. You've had other guests come on there and talk about that.

Yeah, all right. Cliff, appreciate the update. I know you keep an eye on those rental laws, and we always appreciate the update, really do. We go to next line here on Wheels Up. up Wednesday. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Hi, this is James. James. What's up?

Yeah, I'm here in Selma. And I watch the YouTube live stream videos of Portland and the different ice facilities. And they block the driveway. The driveway is like 20 feet across. The only thing the ice ask

is they leave the driveway open so cars can go in and go out. So then, and Tifa, they block the driveway. They go up the street on both sides, block off the whole road. Portland police should be spanking these people, shouldn't they? The police did show up Sunday for the first time since June. Oh. And they were there for one minute. The protesters formed a human chain joining arms, and one minute they, one minute, they were gone.

And there's four-block area, the police, there's four Lawson officers that hide out two blocks away from there. But they don't go in that area. They're told not to. Oh, it's kind of a no-go area like the Sharia law areas in some cities. Right. And what Antifa believes in is they're against capitalism. They want to take all the millionaires' money, divide it up. and vote locally

who gets it what to spend it on but that was tried back and when the pilgrims landed William Bradford the governor they can search that name William oh yeah look it up at

they ended up starving because you had the lazy the lazy realized they didn't they didn't have to work as hard and so they didn't and they ended up getting a share of the of the hard workers in the colony I remember that. I think that was in Virginia, right?

The colony, not Williamsburg, but... What's it now? The Plymouth Colony. Was that the Plymouth Colony? I thought it was the one that, you know, down in Virginia. I'll get back to you on that one. Appreciate the call there, James. Let me roll around here.

Grab a few more calls because we're having some open phone fun time. Hi, who's this? Good morning. Welcome. This is my here, Dave. Yes, Dave. Yeah, one good thing that Trump can win. is a shutdown of the government.

Either way, he wins because he did a reduction of workforce. They're not on furlough. Yeah, he's talking about more rifts right now, and I know that the public employee unions in D.C. are working or trying to fight back on some restraining orders, but I don't know how that's going to happen. I can't because Congress didn't pass a budget, and they can just let them go and don't have to bring them back.

reduction of workforce is a layoff and my understanding is depending on what state you're in you might not get unemployment if you're a federal employee possibly appreciate the call Dave next on open lines hello who's this morning Holly Martin Josephine County hi Holly how are things good on the mobile home situation that's a particularly egregious bill because people who own there are two owners with a mobile home park you have everything the land below and you have everything above, which is owned by people, and if they make it so high that these people cannot pay their rent, they're in trouble because you can't move those mobile homes. And the value of the land, when they started the mobile homes, the value of the land

wasn't very much, but when you started putting homes on it, that increased the value of the land. So you really have two owners, and they're not respecting the rights of one of the owners when they do that. It's not appropriate because they've made that land value. people, by the nature of themselves putting houses on it and renting the land for all this time. And unfortunately, the challenge where we find ourselves is that there is not, how do I put it this way? Okay, I don't know who is calling my cell phone. You got to, it's the show time. Someone from Grand Spass calling, okay?

Call the show. Anyway, the challenge that you're running to is that if you, I mean, if you have a mobile home, and you don't own the land, you don't have control of your destiny. You just don't, okay? That's why they put in rent control because they want to honor. I mean, we went through this. I've been through this before. Sure.

You have to honor the fact that there really are two owners in that situation. And, I mean, this has already gone through the court system in some areas, and they end up having rent control just to respect the fact that there are two owners. And in so many cases, you have senior citizens and so forth that have these mobile homes that have had them for a very long period of time. They're going to have nowhere to go. Yeah, I know. They don't have a place. They'll have nowhere to go.

Yeah, but does that mean, though, that the senior citizens should be held harmless from economic reality? What do you think? Not held harmless, but I think there has to be some governmental control about it. 9% is a lot of – is a huge increase. It depends on what, of course, what it was. Well, but that is government control right now. They're saying up to 9%. That is with government control.

There's government control on it right now. And they're saying six and a half to 9%. You know, I'd have to look at the mathematics of everything, but we all need to be looking at the bigger picture on that because there are two owners, not just one. And I don't think that the owners of the homes above the land should forfeit their ownership entirely. I mean, I know it's certainly much better if you can own the land, but I believe in that

particular situation, I think rent control is appropriate because of that two-owner situation. You do. You're talking about, yeah, I do. Low, very low income people over a long period of time. And letting, having them lose their homes along with everyone else is going to, you know, put them right back on the public dole anyway. Yeah, I just don't know if I'm in total agreement with you on that, Holly, because if government is worried about low-income seniors in a mobile home park, then it would seem to me that perhaps the government itself should be taking surplus land

and converting them into mobile home parks. Wouldn't that make more sense? Well, that would be fine, too, if they want to do that, but you can't move the mobile homes that exist right now. You know, especially these older mobile homes. It costs like $30,000 or some odd dollars to move a mobile home. It's not a cheap thing to do. So they're stuck where they are, in other words. Okay, got it. At least the ones that don't get hauled up onto Granite Hill Road and set on fire on the Forest Road, right?

Yikes. It's totally crazy. Now, in some ways you can get people that will come up. Some people who come up from Mexico and California anyway buy some of the older mobile homes. but generally speaking, you know. Yeah, they're useless. Okay. Hey, I appreciate the take on it.

We'll revisit this here in a little bit, okay? 736 at KMED. Stephen Westfall Roofing is growing. Now proudly serving Brookings. This is the Bill Meyer Show on 1063 KMED. Call Bill now. 541-770-5633. That's 770 KMED.

All right, we'll grab a few more calls before we talk to Dr. John Lott about where the crime is really coming from. Is there an ideological bent to it, okay? Hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome. Good morning, Bill. It's Lauren. Hi, Lauren.

What's up? Just got back from my walk and thinking about the fact talking about dollar general store and dollar store and how much a dollar and a quarter. And I flashed back to five and ten cents stores. Remember those? Yeah. You know, when I was a little kid, there were still a couple of five and ten. And then it kind of warped into everybody becoming a, Woolworth, I think, you know, at that time.

Yeah, Woolworth. But in San Francisco, it was Woolworth's 5 and 10. Oh, okay. I lived in the Bay Area in 49 to 55, 59. But anyway, yeah, $1, dollar and a half, dollar and a quarter, $5, whatever. But $5.10, that was a deal, man. Get all the candy you could put in your pocket. Darn straight.

Darned straight. You know, five and 10. I'm trying to think when did the candy bar really stop being a nickel. I mean, it happened when I was a kid. They really ended up turning into a dime, if I recall, in the late 60s, you know, at that point. Yeah, I don't remember any of that. And Penny Candy was almost a nothing burger, okay? Hey, thanks for the memory there.

Great hearing from you. Let me grab another call. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome. Hey, Bill. Matt, I got a question for you. Sure, Matt.

These cities that have this, you know, the out-of-control crime, and I used to love Chicago. I used to call it the sophisticated city full of farmers. is a great city, really one of the great cities. These used to be. I always look forward to it. Always look forward to it. Great people. But let me ask you a question. Why, is it just an ideology of not punishing criminals? Or do you think, do you think that the, you know, the mayors, the governors, the city council, the aldermen, is there some kind of a benefit here? Because it just seems to me that you would want to wipe out crime for the taxpaying citizens, I don't understand. That's the thing I can't get my mind wrapped around.

Like, why not address the problem? Well, could it be, Matt, and I'm just spitballing with you since we're just a couple of guys talking about this stuff, could it possibly be that, you know, the folks that are thinking with their heart, not their head, could it be the racial connection to a lot of the law? of inner city crime and that inherently to enforce that they can't help but see it through this through the lens of inner city racism if we enforce against inner city crime could it be something that simple you know going down that whole who is more oppressed you know that kind of ideology where that were so many of them suck from really I guess you know I don't maybe

that's the answer. It's the ideology that... Okay, let me put it this way. If it was all about... If all crime was just a bunch of dirtbag white guys, there'd be no problem. Okay? See what I'm getting at? Well, I think that's especially true if that was occurring in neighborhoods that were predominantly black. Yes. But what I'm getting at is that there is such sensitivity, such a race conscience, that or consciousness that tends to be tied into it, that they can't help but see cracking down on crime is cracking down on our community, as they say, you know.

Tell me, because these black people aren't going into mostly white or Asian, well, maybe some Asian neighborhoods, and committing these crimes. They're literally all killing each other. I know. Part of me thinks, okay, are you just saying that the crime, most of the murder, is just black-on-black crime, and they're sort of self-take, you know, they're taking care of their own problem by killing each other. And as long as it's limited to just that, we won't worry about it. You know, or just some of it. That is the way that it's been handled.

I mean, you can't help but think that way, right? I mean, you're right. Or are Alderman getting money? Are there NGOs getting money from criminals to look the other way? That's crossed my mind, too, because I don't understand. And I'm not crazy about having troops on streets because I just, Just imagine Biden being president doing this. Exactly.

And everybody on the right will be freaking out. Yeah, and they'd be rightly. So I understand this. And yet, Tina Kotech, with her actions or lack of action, along with the mayor of Portland, they're bringing that on right now, too. Hey, Matt, I appreciate that. And we're going to talk about that Harvard thing at some point, that other article at some point. I've got to go.

I'm burning daylight, but I'll be back with you. Okay, thanks again for the call. All right. 742. For over four decades. Come in soon. Hi, I'm Michael, Gage of Construction, and I'm on KMED. You know, when it comes to crime, and I want the numbers,

and I want to know the real scoop about what is going on. I know who I talk to, especially when it comes to gun crimes and other, well, actually, guns don't commit crimes, but the people who have guns sometimes do. Okay? And I go to Crime Prevention Research Center, CrimeR.org. That was founded by Dr. John R. Lott, Jr. He's an economist and a world-recognized expert on guns and crime. You are the go-to guy, doctor.

Welcome back to the show. Good to have you on. Well, it's great to talk to you again, Bill. Thanks for having me on. Before we get into, I was kind of wondering about political ideology and crime, and I'm just wondering if there's, you know, anything. Are there any new reports that are out there on crime research that we should know about? Because you're always putting news out there and, shall we say, chumming the crime waters, you know, as it were.

Anything going on? Well, yeah, well, I mean, there's a lot. One report that we just put up a couple days ago deals with the FBI data on active crime reports. You know, it's over the last year, a couple of years, I've been really disappointed by kind of the political biases and other things that have seeped into the FBI. You and I have talked about before how they kind of hid the changes in crime rates. during the 2024 election, I thought, to try to help out the Democrats. But each year, they put out a report on active shooting cases. These are cases where guns fired in public, not part of some other type of crime,

like a gang fight over drug turf for a robbery, anything from one person being shot at and missed all the way up to a mass public shooting. And over the two years, the last two years, the 2023 and 24 years, they claim that none of these active shooting cases were stopped by civilians who were legally carrying a gun. And, you know, it's just, in 2024, for example, why they claim the zero of those occurred, I think it's about 48%. And one argument that I had with the FBI people when I was working at the Department of Justice was that, look, guys, you need to divide this even further because you can't expect a law-abiding citizen to carry a gun in places that are gun-free zones, places where they're legally banned from carrying. And if you look at the rate that civilians stop these active shooting attacks in places where they're allowed. carry. It's actually about 63% are stopped there rather than the zero that they're claiming. You know, that's about two-thirds. That's about two-thirds of active shooters. When you actually

are honestly reporting them, that is something that you would think would be much bigger news in the real world, but it's not. You would think so. Unfortunately, the media court cases, legislators rely heavily on academics in doing their research, rely heavily on the FBI studies that are out there, the FBI data. And, you know, one of the disappointing things is, I mean, nobody needs to take my word for. We have the list of cases on our website as well as links to the underlying news stories so people can check the things. I just wrote the FBI last week asking them for comments on this, you know, for responses,

as well as the people at Texas State University who they hire to go and compile these cases. And the FBI wrote me back and just said no comment. And the people at Texas State University just refused to reply. A couple of years ago, when I put out a similar report, Len Kessler, the then fact checker at the Washington Post, had reached out to both the FBI and Texas State University. Again, the FBI refused to respond to the errors. The people at Texas State University, out of literally all the, you know, a couple hundred

cases that I had pointed out that they had missed, came back and said, well, there are two of them that we think shouldn't be included in this couple hundred that Lott and the Crime Prevention Research Center has pointed out, one of them was a case where a man had gone into a dentist office, starts shooting up because his wife was there. A permit holder was one of the customers waiting for service and shot and seriously wounded the attack or ending the attack. The people at Texas State said, well, you know, that was the domestic dispute. Oh, so they redefine it. They redefined the actual crime to kind of take it out of that. Oh. Right. Well, the thing is, I point out, I said, look, guys, you have 14 other cases that you include

that are exactly the same. You know, some guy goes into a place because he's upset about his wife, cheating on him, or something else. or getting a divorce, that you include, and the only difference between the ones you include and that is that a defensive gun use was used in the one you exclude, and, you know, and they refuse to respond further on that. And the bottom line here, what you're getting at Dr. John Lott, once again, from the Crime Prevention Research Center, Crimresearch.org, is that we're not being told the truth. We're not being told the truth about the criminal statistics. And I want to talk about a couple other reports that you have up on crime research, too,

because it details a lot of the issues we've been hearing about on the news recently, including mass shootings. And one of them was, how do mass killers, you have a report up there, how do mass killers pick out where they want to go and ply their crime? Has there been any research done on that? it appears you have in this report here. What does it say? Yeah, I have to say one of the most frustrating things to be with regard to media coverage is that these mass murders, time after time, after time, explain in detail why they

pick the targets that they do. And, you know, it's not random, but the media refuses to cover those explanations. So, for example, the Minneapolis school shooter that we had recently, that person went through details about why they picked the target they did. Now, the media will go and say things like, well, this mass murderer had, you know, went into great detail about other school shootings or talked at length about other mass murders. And those are completely true. but he was talking about them in terms of what he learned from them. And what he learned from them was that you need to go to a place where your victims were unarmed. Look, this guy, like all these other guys, just about it was suicidal, but he wanted to get attention.

And he knew the more people he killed, the more immediate attention that he was going to get. And so he wanted to go to a place where his victims were unarmed. He explicitly talks about that in his manifesto. And it's not just going to a place. It was the time of the day. He talks about, well, he didn't want to go in the morning when they were dropping off the parents were dropping off the kids at school or when the parents in the afternoon were picking them up because he was worried about the possibility that one of the parents might have a permanent concealed handgun.

It might use it to go and try to stop them from killing people there. so he wanted to do it during the middle of the school day what he knew no parents would be around yeah and the kids are sitting ducks the kids of the administration for the most part wow you see this is and and this is not being reported at all okay and i'm glad you are reporting it right now doctor lot i want to bring it up right now to something else that i've been hearing a lot and every time that there is a mass shooting and people there do seem to be certain people who are wound tightly right now in society And there is that copycat thing that the more you have, the more you end up getting to a certain extent. We've noted that before here. But what I do find interesting is that whatever your ideology, or if you're a left-winger, if you're a right-winger, everybody wants to point their fingers as soon as something happens, it's like, okay, he's one of yours. And then the other side when something happens, okay, it's one of yours, you're the ones, you're the problem, you're the problem, that kind of thing. Right. Is there any evidence or any reporting on, let's say, the ideology of a lot of these crimes

because a lot of times we're told by the left-wing media, it's always white supremacist. You know, that's what you hear time and time again. Oh, it's some white supremacist, some MAGA-type person. Are there any hard numbers on this kind of stuff? Where does it really come from? Do we know? Well, we collect this stuff. If you look at mass public shooters, people who have killed four more people in a public place, you know, like the FBI definition, not involved in some other type of crime like a robbery or a gangfight over drug turf, what you find is that about 80% of them have no political views.

These are just individuals who are suicidal, who, you know, people have always been suicidal, but someplace along the line, people realize that. that if they killed other people, they could get a lot of news media attention nationally and internationally. And they feel unappreciated or they feel wronged in some way. And so, you know, you look at somebody like the Sandy Hook killer, according to police, he had done what was the equivalent of a doctoral dissertation over two and a half years, where he had looked at mass public shootings over the previous 40 years and grafted out the relationship between the number of people killed and the amount of media coverage he could get in order to prove to himself that if he could go and kill more people, he could get more media coverage. He wanted to go and kill more people than the Norway killer.

So it's about attention getting more often than a political ideology, although we must say that sometimes religion plays a role. I know that the most recent shooting, that tragic shooting at the Mormon services, this was a guy. just hated Mormons, right? Yeah, right. No, I mean, those types of things, but I'm just saying over 80% have no political or religious acts to grind. Okay, so 80% of them are. Now, the 20% that do have a religious or an ideological act to grind there, pardon me, I tripped on myself a little bit, is there any conclusions that can be drawn from that,

Dr. Lott? Yeah, I'd say about two-thirds of those are people on the left. So they're, and, you know, you have, you know, if people who want to go and claim that they're on the right, but basically, you know, you have this ADL and a defamation league report, for example, that claims that none of the extremist murders over the last three years. were done by people on the left, that they were all done by people on the right. But when you dig into them, you see how they define things. So, for example, the worst of the mass murderers that they had on their list was the Buffalo grocery store murder in 2022. But if you actually read, and he was a racist, so they automatically classify somebody who's a racist as a right winner or anti-Semember.

Yeah, because only right-wingers can be racist and anti-Semitic. Got it. Okay, that's their point of view of ADL. Got it. Okay. Right. But the thing is, if you read his manifesto, and we have it on our website at crime research.

org, he defines himself. He calls himself an eco-fascist. He also describes himself as, quote, a mild, moderate, authoritarian leftist, end quote. He's racist. But he's racist because he's upset that people have kids because he thinks kids damage the environment. And he believes that blacks are having relatively more children for family than whites are. So that's the reason why he hates him. You know, he hates businesses because he thinks businesses are destroying the environment.

So he's a racist, but he's a racist because he's a leftist. You look at somebody like the Colorado Springs shooting in 2022, in which five people were killed. They classify him as a right-winger because he shot up a gay bar. But what they ignore is that the individual was trans. He had they-them pronouns that he wanted everybody to use. And that he was upset with gays because he didn't think gays. days we're giving trans individuals the proper respect that they should be getting. So it wasn't exactly coming at it from a what you would call a hard right-wing point of view.

Okay? So when you re-examine the crime then, you're looking at about two out of three from the left and about a third from the right here. And that's not to say that the right is to be excused here, but it is not equal at this point in time when you honestly look at. look at the numbers when you're looking at politically motivated? Right. If you're not going to just automatically classify somebody who's a racist or anti-Semitic as a right-winger,

you know, you think they kind of, the anti-defamation league would have noticed some of the riots on college campuses over the last few years to realize that not everybody who's anti-Israel or anti-Jew is on the right. you know, but, you know, so it's just kind of crazy. And then they don't identify or refuse to identify certain people as having a political leaning. So, for example, the Covenant School shooter in Nashville. That was another transgender shooter, right? That's right.

That's exactly right. And that individual wrote extensively about being upset about. She was upset about, quote, unquote, white privilege that she wanted to, quote, kill all you little crackers, end quote, which is basically a reference to killing whites. And yet, if I recall, she was right, white, wasn't she? Yeah, she was. Yeah. But she had gone to college and gotten radicalized. And, you know, she went on and on resenting the wealth of.

the parents and the students who were associated with the school there. She complained about the fancy cars that the parents drove and the nice clothes and the nice backpacks that the students had. You know, the Nashville police report afterwards listed a number of her views on things like gun control, for example. She was in favor of ironically of banning all guns. You know, you go through the list that's hard to see any view that she had on any topic that one would classify as anything other

than to the left on those things. But the Anti-Defamation League said she has no, despite being trans and everything else there, they said she has no clear ideology. You look at something like

the 2023 Louisville Bank shooting at Louisville, Kentucky shooting. That individual had lots of posts on social media, praising Black Life Matter, calling for defunding the police and saying how much he hated Trump. And yet they said we can't classify his political views. Boy, the more you read down your reports, the more you realize just how little truth seems to be getting out of the reporting right now. And it's important that we know this. I'm going to link to these reports here, these latest research articles on

crime research.org. Dr. Lott, there's never been a time which we've needed more factual information about what's going on because the spin coming out of the opinion, both on the left and the right, leave a lot to be desired. We appreciate you take, and thanks for being on, and we will have you back. Crime Prevention Research Center, Crimresearch.org. Thank you, Dr. Lott. Be well. Thank you for being there. MED and KMED H.D. H.D. H.E.O. Point, Medford, KBXG. Grants.