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Episode Date: October 2, 2025

10-02-25_THURSDAY_6AM

The Bill Meyer Show podcast is sponsored by Klauser Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausor drilling.com. Here's Bill Meyer. Good morning and happy conspiracy theory Thursday. The first one of October 2025. Join the conversation at 7705633. 770 KMED.

Email Bill at Billmyershow.com. Read them. I'll try to answer as many as I can, but I am a staff of one. You know, we play that one-man band pretty hard, you know. We'll work it hard. Anyway, how you do it this morning? One of the strangest stories, one of the strangest stories that I have seen come out of local journalism. You know, I've had a couple of days in a row of really weird stories.

Of course, there was the weird crime story yesterday. We were talking about the dirtbaggy behavior with a criminal throwing acid on the Dollar General employees over in, in the Merlin area, a 72-year-old guy, and by the way, this is still alleged, but, you know, everyone's kind of complaining. They're saying, yep, he did it. They find the acid on the guy. So I guess we're thinking that is pretty close to a done deal, probably a plea deal, I guess, will end up happening out of this. I don't know. But then, the Rogue Valley Times has a story this morning, which just has me, which has me scratching my head. And it's about a Medford criminal defense attorney facing invasion of privacy charges and he's still representing clients and apparently

he's in the uh well you know he's in the uh public defenders world medford criminal defense attorney zachary light is who they were talking about in the um in the r v times deal buffy pollick writing about this and apparently he was arrested august 21 by osp charged with 19 counts of federal a felony, rather, invasion of privacy, and one count of unlawful use of a GPS device. He's out on $35,000 bail right now. He was arraigned in Jackson County Circuit Court Tuesday, Tuesday morning, 19 felony counts. Now remember, this is first degree invasion of personal privacy. Patrick Green bringing this.

They had to bring in a judge from Clameth Falls or Clameth County to do this because all the other judges in Jackson County they had to recuse themselves from this. You can understand why, because they all would have cases with Zach Light representing clients before them. So they all backed away from that. But Patrick Green ends up bringing the charges, the DA, against the attorney. And the court records showed that between October, like I said, it's a fascinating story. Court records show that between October and November of 2023, this attorney, Zach Light is allegedly video recorded a victim named in the case, and it appeared to be a female,

if they're talking about, in intimate settings. So you can pretty much read between the lines and this one. Light is charged with creating a total of 45 videos recorded on 22 different dates, according to an affidavit. and he also placed a magnetic GPS tracking device on this woman's vehicle without her knowledge or consent. And the affidavit states the victim confronted light regarding the videos and he admitted to recording her and gave the victim a USB drive containing videos, spy camera, and a GPS device.

Now this is an officer of the court. This is an attorney, you know, in the public defender world here. and one of Light's most famous cases that was, he remember Susan Monica, the pig farmer murderer? Remember that one about 10 years ago? Yeah, he represented her. And by the way, I didn't realize this is one of these things kind of got lost in the shuffle.

He faced earlier invasion of privacy charges around that time that he was representing the pig farmer murderer, Susan Monica. This is an odd story. two that came out. Investigated by the Oregon State Bar in 2015, Light pleaded guilty to a loan count of invasion of privacy because he placed a, well, for placing a camera in his minor stepdaughter's bedrooms. In other words, his underage stepdaughter in the bedroom with the intention of filming her without her knowledge or consent. Now, according to the court records,

the minor stepdaughter found the camera and it had footage of her in a state of undress. that met the elements of second-degree invasion of privacy. Second-degree? Isn't that kind of... That sounds like it was undercharged, in my opinion. I don't know. Of course, I'm not a legal guy. I'm just kind of sharing the legal news with you.

So, you know, this is someone who is underage. Normally when we're taking pictures of underage people and they're in stages of undress and area, like, you know, if you were to go in the bathroom or go into a locker room and do something, like this, you're usually in big, big trouble. But Light was convicted and sentenced to five years probation order to stay away from kids and complete a sex offender treatment program. The state bar suspended his license for seven months. And 30 days, all but 30 days of the suspension was

stayed by the bar, ordered that he not represent children in a professional capacity, not have any contact with the victim without prior permission. So there's been a bit of a history. with his one particular attorney. And so it is a, you know, I'm just kind of scratch of the surface there, but it's an interesting story in the Roke Valley Times morning. Now, during the arraignment, Buffy Pollock writing here that a light appeared calm and collected, hearing presided by the Clameth County Circuit Court judge, Kelly Critzer, because everybody else ended up getting recused from this one.

following the hearing, there was a woman who said Light had been appointed to represent her in a criminal case. She became really emotional and loudly addressing the courtroom demanding a different lawyer be appointed. Light tried to calm the woman down who expressed frustration with her charges telling her she could request to be represented by a different attorney. Well, the other challenge with this is that as you may or may not know, though, we have a real problem having enough public defenders here in southern Oregon as is and one of the major criminal defense attorneys is finding himself in a bit of hot water and yeah putting GPS devices doing the secret recording one could argue that there may be a problem they're liking to record people without them knowing it you know and shall we say delicate situations delicate personal situations not good so

I don't know where it's going. It's just something we're going to have to see, but he has been arraigned. So I don't know what is going to happen with the public defender's office. How is he going to be able to defend a lot of these people with these kind of charges hanging over his head? I don't know. But still, great story in the Rogue Valley Times. Man, Road Valley Times, that is something. 770-K-Maddy. If you know anything, maybe some people involved with that, just let me know. Wouldn't mind this. It's day two of the government shutdown.

Now, I know if you're a government employee that is part of the shutdown. Of course, there's nothing better than knowing that you are a, you know, that you're not really needed. You are not a critical employee. And I get that. You know, I understand that's not a real comfortable feeling. But it is day two. and I think Democrats pretty much own this one. The priority of love is just completely on display or at least the corrupt priority of love,

you know, the way I figured it's been looking out of here. Democrats can't help themselves. They really love those Obamacare subsidies, and that is really a lot about subsidizing illegal aliens. They cannot get away from this. And it's now they're claiming that, oh, that's not true. That's not true. Essentially, what these Obamacare subsidies ended up doing, most of the sanctuary city states and sanctuary states like Oregon, from the way it's been explained to me, ended up funding, you know, they would take that money and they would kind of fund illegal alien health care through the back door.

So Oregon Health Plan didn't necessarily have illegal aliens on it, but there were other programs that would be funded, you know, maybe through, you know, some of the public clinics like the La Clinicas of the World. world, you know, that sort of thing. And so they would just take state money and put it in in different ways. And so everybody's complaining. That's why they're always describing it as health care. Well, we're shutting down the government because Republicans won't pay for health care. Now, you know, in the left-wing world, health care usually means it's transgender surgeries, abortion, and, of course, health care for free for illegal aliens who aren't supposed to be here. So that's where it goes. Could it go on for our a week or two, maybe more, possibly.

Talk is that it might break down sooner rather than later. We shall see. All right. What else do we have going on this morning? Oh, another lawsuit. This is being reported up in Portland, K2. U.S. is suing four Oregon counties, not Jackson County, not Josephine County, but what they're going after is Multnomah, Washington, Clackamas, and Marion.

These, of course, are the sanctuary, you know, the big illegal alien hotbeds of controversy up near the Portland area, okay? And what the feds are saying, they're alleging noncompliance with federal immigration enforcement. No kidding. And they're claiming that these counties are ignoring federal detainers since Oregon House Bill 3265 enacted September 2021. Obviously, you can tell they're trying to, the feds are trying to set up a conflict. then with state law and try to squash this state law. Now, what the counties are saying is that we are following Oregon law. The rub comes that when ICE issues a detainer, it's an administrative procedure.

And what these four counties, these four specific counties, Multnomah, Washington, Clackamas, and Marion County are doing, what they're doing is that they're saying well these ice detainers these are not coming from a court in other words we have if we if it comes from a court we'll pretend to pay attention but since these ice detainers are not courts they are administrative procedures we are not going to do anything to help that we're just going to ignore you right now the federal government is arguing that oregon's refusal to allow federal officials to investigate prisoners to find out whether or not they're actually American citizens, whether they're allowed to be here,

and also investing them for investigating for potential deportation, has hindered efforts to locate individuals who have committed serious crimes, including rape, sexual abuse, manslaughter, burglary, assault, sexual assault, drug trafficking. And these individuals are already subject to removal under the Immigration and Nationality Act. This is what the lawsuit is saying. they're saying hey we get federal law already says this and these four counties specifically are saying no we don't care and so this is setting up quite the conflict they're also going to be in court

those are going to be in court Friday on the um see i'm missing that story right oh here it is i know i just had it misplaced here another immigration story it's all kind of connected here for that matter. In Portland, we're going to have a federal judge looking into this whole situation with troops in Portland. To anybody's guess, Oregon Live is reporting here, it's any guess what a federal judge in Portland will do when the city and stake seek an emergency court order to stop President Trump's deployment of troops to Portland.

Now, the options include the outright blocking of the troops. This is what the federal judge could do, allowing them to come in with or without restrictions are simply waiting until they actually arrive in order to do something. And the legal experts they claim are facing a legal uphill battle if no troops are on the ground. Also, if the government makes it clear that they'll serve in a limited role of protecting federal property and officers when they arrive. And I would agree with those legal experts there, just from my everyday Joe legal expertise, that you have federal property, arguably, which has been under siege for more than 100

days. Videos are out there. And I know it's not like it's constant turmoil, but it does get in the way of the federal agency doing its job. I don't think there's any way that you can argue that there hasn't been some issues there. And of course, they're fighting about the masks. They're fighting. It's very disruptive. Things have been very disruptive around there. And yeah, you can't, or I should say, no, really, you can't stop the genuine protest. But A lot of what's been going on there after a while arguing, arguably, is violent crime. If the feds bring the National Guard in, by the way, they're talking about National Guard next week. It would be next week before the troops would actually arrive.

The story is they're just going to be surrounding those particular facilities. I think the city of Portland and the state of Oregon would have an easier time fighting it if they were going to be just overall patrolling the streets of Portland looking for dirtbags. But, you know, if they were patrolling the streets looking for dirt bags, they'd be way too busy. So they just have to concentrate on the dirtbaggy behavior, you know, going around, you know, the people doing the vandalism, the people who are making the threats, the people who are, you know, making it difficult for ICE to do their job. So we'll see, but there's going to be court time on Friday about that. Oregon Public Broadcasting reporting that Oregon lawmakers are pushing for a change to tsunami and earthquake preparedness.

There was a hearing Monday on emergency management and veterans. These are a couple of Democrats that are calling for this. David Gomberg and Paul Evans said Oregon's lack of preparedness showed during July's tsunami advisory. The two Democrats are calling for changes to the natural disaster response. now Gomburg has a district out Lincoln County so he's out on the coast right that that sort of thing some coastal parts of Lane County and he said he was being out to dinner with friends on July 29th when an alert went out about a potential tsunami what I found interesting is that my wife and I got those warnings from Lincoln County but our friends who are visiting from out of town didn't get the same warnings so they're complaining that it doesn't sit there and light up all the phones. Light up all the phones. Evans agreed, noted that people may not get an emergency message

because their phone is off or they don't hear a tsunami siren. Okay. And they're complaining here, $300 million over 10 years to build satellite training facilities to ensure our full-time folks, our volunteer and part-time response folks, have a capacity to keep their skills, as opposed to having to depend on a delivery system right now that's having a hard time doing it. So they're claiming they're spending all this money,

but people aren't getting the alerts. There's a part of me, though, that's saying, how far should they have to go to light everybody up? Should everybody be forced to be plugged in? I'm thinking, you know, if there's this complaint about, well, they can't always hear a tsunami siren. build another tsunami siren then those are cheap those aren't that expensive it's almost as if what the what the two state representatives from the coast are complaining about is that we're just not automatically hitting everybody's cell phone also the assumption that everybody has to have a cell phone in order to be it to be informed you know it's kind of that same well that same sort of situation we suffered here during the olme uniform fire. Everything afterwards was about, well, we wouldn't want to put EAS alerts out on broadcast because that's too broad, you know, that sort of thing. Yeah, we want you to sign up for, you know, get your Everbridge account, right? Remember those conversations and controversy that we've had back and forth about it? So something tells me that they're looking for yet another way just to automatically pry open your phone and just say, hey, you have a cell phone. We're going to get you, you know, good and hard with it and you won't be able to ignore it.

And there's a certain part of me after a while it says maybe a citizen has a duty, maybe just to take care of themselves a little bit and make sure that they can be as informed as best as possible. And it seems to me that if all the other people around them are getting the tsunami alert and a tourist and a tourist from New York City somehow doesn't get in there, you think there's any chance that the tourists wouldn't notice that there's something going on when everybody's heading for the hills? I know that's very low-tech, but maybe we could discuss that. But once again, it sounds like what these two Democratic representatives are running to do is spend a lot more money. Now, I'm going to talk with Court Boyce about some other things, but he's also a state rep on the coast. On the coast, Curry County, maybe he has a take on that, too. He may have been in that meeting. I don't know.

We'll also talk about the fire response, how that's been going with the Moon Complex, too, in a bit. This is the Bill Meyer show. Getting ready for an autumn road trip? Click on the track. Hi, I'm Matt Stone with Stone Heating and Air, and I'm on KMED. Conspiracy Theory Thursday doesn't mean every call is a conspiracy theory, but let me go to Brother Louis. Hello, Brother Louis. How are you doing in the South County? Hey, pretty good. I just got back a couple days ago from a long, well, a month and a half in back east. I come up with the ultimate conspiracy, actually.

What's that? That's the conspiracy to keep us divided, confused. Fused, fearful, and angry. Oh, you just noticed that. Okay. Yeah. I'm just having fun with you. No, I've been noticing that a long time, but I decided that conspiracy theory Thursday deserves it.

I'd mention that. I'll say more about this if you get busy. You know, I don't have to stay on very long, but that's something I've kind of really come up. I was with my family, and my family is totally divided, perfectly divided. There are Trump lovers, and there are never Trumpers and progressive liberals and, you know, know, serious conservatives in my family, and it's a huge family. And the main thing I learned is you don't want to take either side if you don't know for sure who you're with. Oh, I know. You really tiptoe around those things. Did I ever tell you, now I've talked about

this on the air, but my sister, my sister, I'll call her up. And immediately, I don't, I never call her up to talk politics ever because she's a hard, hard progressive. And just, and kind of delusional about it too. And she says, I'm so disappointed in you that you voted for a man that is trying to kill my children. She has three children from three different guys. And each and every one of them is either gay or LGBTQ or on some sort of the LGBTQ spectrum. There's something there, everyone. And Trump is trying to kill my children. And how? And then she just start screaming at me. It's very difficult sometimes. It's all I can say. And don't you think that that's very convenient for people that want us not to find our

common ground and get united? Two point. Yeah. That's what I'm feeling about it. And look, everywhere I look, I see evidence of that, including the people that I don't know that I talk to, you know, especially those, because then I tip to, you know, back in Michigan, I talked to a lot of different people. and over a period of, you know, six weeks, it was amazing. It was amazing. I always got polarized. I always got labeled the wrong.

I'm on the other side. No matter who I talked to, I was on the other side, according to them. Yeah, well, there are major differences of opinion about, well, frankly, if government was in its constitutional cage, though, we wouldn't have much to argue about because they wouldn't be doing a whole heck of a lot that we would disagree. Wouldn't you agree? on that? Yeah, you know, I used to be progressive liberal, absolutely. But now I'm much more interested in just the last 10 years or so. I really got just shoved out of that whole thing because they went so far.

Yeah. Well, we're all diving for the control stick, you know, every four years, especially, and every two years in there. You know, maybe give me a call. I do have a bit of open phone time. Seven o'clock will have a little more time if you wanted to expound on that a bit. okay all right i'll think about it i'll call you if i'll call you if i feel inspired all right if you feel inspired i'm always welcome to hear you're always welcome here uh brother louis francine is here too

good morning francine welcome what's on your mind today huh morning well i want to talk about the idea of the sirens being you know putting more sirens in for people to hear because there's yeah there's a couple i just wanted to catch up couple democrat uh folks on the coast they were upset about this because they're saying not everybody's cell phone is going off but uh you know hey, we're supposed to set up accounts and all the rest of it. You know, at some point, you know, where do you go? I mean, should everybody be grabbed and thrown out of bed by some robotic alarm connected to, you know, to tsunami central?

But there's so many problems with that. I mean, for example, I turn my phone off at night. Yeah. You know, I don't want to sit there and be bathed. You know, I don't live under a tower or anything like that. You know, I'm kind of rural, so I can get away from that stuff. And so at night when I'm sleeping, I turn my phone off. And, you know, and it's not going to pop on because somebody wants to send me a text.

Also, my phone doesn't always, I don't always hear the notification. You know, I don't glue my phone to my body. And, you know, and I'll walk away. I'll be out. Now, see, you're a smart one, though. You're a smart one. Congratulations. Well, thank you, Bill.

All right. You know, but I know, if I heard a siren, if the siren woke me up in the middle of the night, I would get up and turn on my phone or my computer or something to see what's going on yeah see that's the way i'm kind of looking at it too uh tsunami sirens are relatively inexpensive and it's low tech really it's not complex that's that that's the ticket to low tech the thing is too people that don't have uh you know there are some people that don't have cell phones and computers they could turn on a radio you know i mean there's there's but you just need to get people's attention and the phone doesn't always do that all right good point thanks for making it

Francine, 770563, ooh, knock my coffee over, fortunately, and has a sealed top. Let me go to Crazy Gene, or not so crazy. Hello, Gene. Morning. Hey, how are you doing, Bill? Doing fine. What are you thinking today, huh? Well, I'm taking to Donald Trump just proclaim silver as a strategic medal.

Yes. A medal of war. So with war coming up as the fee-up money systems of the world collapse, there's going to be infighting of over who caused what and what's left. Yeah. Let's see. Let's see. Silver is also nicknamed the devil's medal.

Did you know that? Well, I have no trouble with the devil. It seems like I've been dancing with him every night. Whatever. It's probably going to be hitting 50 for the way it's looking right now. 50 bucks an ounce for sure. All right. Oh, yeah, for sure.

I think the sky's the limit. I think it could go up to several hundred dollars an ounce. It tends to be the most volatile of the precious metals, though. So, I mean, it can have amazing runs and also amazing crashes, too. So just, you know, keep that in mind. Just to buckle up. That's all I would say, okay? I've got it tight as I can get it.

All right, good for you. Not on your head, though. Don't buckle up your head. We don't want to see that happen. Oh, that helps too. Me. All right. Take care, Gene.

Okay, bye-bye. Stay crazy, my friend. And we have state representative. Gordon Boyce is going to join me here in a couple of minutes. We're going to catch up on the moon complex fire because, boy, I'll tell you, that's, I know, know it's still burning. It took a little bit of a dousing the other day, but I don't think it's out right now. We'll have that latest coming up. Fox News. I'm Terese Crowell. Deadline for pickup is November 28.

Good morning. This is News Talk 1063, KMED. And you're waking up with the Bill Myers Show. State Representative of Court, Boyce, Curry County on the show. Court, you're up there on legislative days. What has been happening other than the fact that $4.3 billion in new taxes passed to bail out the ODOT and bail out the DEI programs at ODOT, I guess. What's going on? Welcome. And, of course, good morning, Bill. Hey, you remember eight years ago you come over to Brookings and spoke at our timber rally, put the fires out, you know, the whole Czechobar era.

So thank you for that. It just come to mind. And, yeah, I'm on the emergency management vet. committee. And, yeah, I represent Coos, Apakus, Cury, Olive Curry, and a little bit of Douglas County. Now, I know that you were on Lars the other day, you know, right about the time they were talking about this, but OPB was covering this part of story. I'll catch you up. And I know you know about it, you know, briefly because you were there, which is like, what a perfect time they had you come on court. It was great, okay? But, thank you. It had to do with

representatives Gomberg and Evans claiming that because they were more or less complaining that they had tourists that were there with them when they had that July 29th tsunami alert now they're the people who lived in the area their phones went off but the tourists did not and so they were kind of decrying this and you know like my wife and I got these warnings from Lincoln County but our friends visiting from out of town didn't get the same warnings and you know they always seem to be kind of concerned that not every cell phone lights up from everywhere no matter what when it comes to emergency manager they're always

trying to go to the cell phone to the cell phone and they claim that well not everybody hears the the sirens and I'm just thinking well wouldn't it be cheap to put up more sirens maybe I'm wrong about it what was your experience in Curry County I don't know if you had one or not any thoughts on that you know the the sirens wore out after 50 years but I do agree with you that the sirens are probably the most efficient and effective way to go. You know, Rep. Gomberg said something interesting. He said, we've had 97 earthquakes off the coast of Oregon in the last year and a half. But he also, you know, Rep Evans also said, you know, we don't

have any money. And so, you know, I respect both those guys for modern Democrats. I get along with them both well. And I think this is something that we have to dig into. properly. But if it has a billion-dollar price tag, it's just, I have no interest. Is that what they were talking about? Were they talking about a emergency response system that was going to be that expensive? Seriously? No. They didn't actually come up with a figure, but they are playing the groundwork. Okay. Yeah. Now, I don't know. Maybe I'm thinking that sirens could be relatively inexpensive, but maybe I'm wrong about that, like everything else, because I know when I was a little boy, Logan's Ferry Heights, you know, near Pittsburgh,

you know, one of those things, and there's a little burgh up on the little mountain top there. And when that siren went off, we knew something was up. It was either the volunteer fire department had to come, and it just seems that there's not a lot of wanting to go with low-tech simple, easy to maintain stuff, and everything seems to be, okay, how do we get plugged into cell phones more? Is it just me, or is that seem to be the general response here from so many people? I'll have my crew look into that. I think that something that's affordable and something we can build on over the years. And so, yeah, being on the coast, you know, my mom was right down close to the ocean,

and it's, you know, I read an article that was somewhat, I believe, trustworthy a few years ago, basically said Oregon is for a major tsunami, 30% chance. next 30 years. Yeah. And they use the 300-year figure, and I can go with that. But, you know, you just, you can overreact. Yeah. And the other aspect, though, is that the focus always seems to be on the complex rather than

the simple, I guess, is what has bothered me. And I'm hoping that cooler heads will prevail. And there are ways to keep people informed about that. If not everybody's hearing a tsunami siren, then that means. Okay, maybe you build a few more tsunami sirens in various communities. And I would have to think that's a lot less expensive than coming up with some big state program. I could be wrong, though. Who knows, you know, these days.

You said the complex takes the lead over the simple. Welcome to Salem. Okay. Glad to know that. Hey, by the way, is your overall gut saying that this is going to make it? I'm talking about a repeal to the $4.3 billion. their tax increase, the gas tax increase and everything else. You think that will make it to the ballot for next year?

You know, our next battle line is to try and get that before the voters. And I think we've got a good chance. It would be a year from this September, excuse me, a year from November bill. And the people voted down. They're starting to get it. I'm more optimistic about working. I've been a long, long time. We're back since Dennis Richardson was elected in 2014, just a great number.

man. Hey, from your lips, though, if you're feeling more optimistic, that's great. Where are those green shoots? Tell me where those green shoots are, court. Help me. Talk me down. We're going to get a Republican governor elected, and we need to start now. We need all the non-affiliated voters. We need the independent.

Is Christine Drazen running for that? Is she going to run for that? Do you know? I'm sure nudging her. I think she's our best chance. And, you know, she gets some criticism sometimes, Bill, but I've worked with her now three years, and she's just an incredibly high integrity person. She is very bright, and she loves Oregon, and, yeah, it's our best chance to win.

So I'm really, really encouraging her to run. Do you think that, do you think Christine's able to, now I don't want to get you in trouble with your caucus? I know how these conversations can go, but there's always that part of me that if it's, that I've never thought that Christine was particularly tough when it comes to dealing with the Democratic. Democrats, you know, Democrats play hardball, and, you know, Republicans tend to, well, negotiate surrender, you know, usually. Maybe I'm being unfair about that.

Not being unfair, but I think the record, especially the last three years, the way she goes toe to toe with the other side, I mean, she just always responds very timely, very logically, and I think she's tough as heck. I'm actually a little surprised as I got to know her better. I ran for governor in 2020, just so I can talk about wildfires. And she is, I just have full support for her. Bonham's going somewhere back to Washington, D.C., through the Trump administration. That's a brilliant person as well.

And so, yeah, I got my fingers crossed that Christine Drazen will make that sacrifice. So very hopeful. I don't know though she's being incredibly quiet than everyone. The one thing that I do think would be helpful is if we don't have, like it was four years ago or three years ago, remember, 17 people? 17 people ran at that time. On our side, when I ran, it was 19. I said, don't be impressed, you know, but everybody has to call. Yeah, the thing is, though, it made it so difficult for, you know, it's not that I don't mind a nice competitive, competitive primary for the, for the GOP.

nomination. But, you know, 19, 20, whatever it is, it gets to the point where nobody has any oxygen in the room. There's no oxygen in the room for anybody to rise. And then by the time someone ends up getting the nomination, then they have an even tougher time, I think, try to get statewide votes. A little more, a little, I'm just hoping it's a little more concentrated next year. That's all I'm going to say. Okay. Yeah, I'm home for two or three candidates, Max. Yeah. I wait for the last minute because nobody. was talking about fire, and you see what's happened since then, since 22, what happened in the 2020 Labor Day fires.

I know you're on top of that, which I really appreciate. State rep got court voice with me this morning. Rep. Boyce, I have to ask you, though, I know you're going to be leaving legislative days a little bit later today and heading back to Curry County and kind of monitoring what's going on with the Moon Complex. And could you give us an update what's going on? I'm glad to know that the lodges like Paradise Lodge.

and others have been saved. But the fire is still going, isn't it? Oh, yes. The rain doesn't impress me at all. I'm happy and grateful, certainly, Bill. But I had to give them a little ground Monday because as good a job as they have done. They kind of indirectly took a day off. And I said, no, the fire's not out.

Get back up on Bear Camp right now. Wait a minute. Hold on, hold on. You're telling me that on Moon Complex, they took a day off on Monday just because it was raining? Well, the reason I said indirectly is because they're not, they're using, they use the excuse, the things were a little slippery, and the hell, there wasn't, excuse me, there wasn't that much rain. And so, yeah, I had to give them a little piece of my mind because it's still burning. And to your point, is it growing, not much, Bill. Oh, good.

We got a long way to go. Yeah, all I was saying, though, I'm thinking when it's raining, it is a great time to be able to take advantage of the water coming down and do the digging and the cutting and everything else that needs to be done. But, yeah, if it's too slippery, that's a problem, I guess. I didn't think about that. It wasn't. You know, that's why I was agitated because just a little bit of relaxed attitude could have brought, yeah, not smart. All right. And so do we have any populated areas that are being threatened by this, or is it just still, you know, out in the hinterlands at the moment?

Pretty much. Agnes just put back on a level two fire evacuation. So we're good shape there. We just want to keep Bear Camp Road, that's an escape route for us. It's also where some of our visitors come. It's just a very important roadway. So it jumped Bear Camp in a couple of spots. And I warned them on that a month ago, well, two weeks ago anyway.

And so, yeah, they've done good. They've protected all of our lodges and buildings. And I think this would have happened five, six years ago. I don't know if we would have been able to protect our lodges, even as far upriver as Black Barbell. I'm glad that they were able to protect those lodges because you know darn well that the agenda people. You know what I mean when I say the agenda people, the same people that don't want any grazing, the same people who don't want any timber. They're also usually the same people within the federal system that don't want any kind of lodge or any sort of man-made anything, no matter how old or historic it is out there on the wild and scenic.

Fair enough. You know they don't want that. Yeah, they believe burn is better, or at least they will try and jam that philosophy down to well-intentioned people, and it just makes your head spin. We've proved over the years that that is destroying valuable watersheds and forest and wildlife, incinerating wildlife, and the smoke that goes into the valley. You know, we feel pretty bad about that, Bill. Is there a resolution, or do you have, do you know if Curry County has the same kind of resolution that Jackson does in? which there is no prescribed burns during fire season. And I bring this up because you know that there's a burn plan on every square inch of public land. And the moon complex got a start from lightning. And a lot of times what burn plans have had in the past is that the lightning

strike happens, you draw a box around it and you let it burn. You know the let it burn policy. You know, the fire bosses will do that. Is that what happened with moon or was it something different where it was just in rough area? Could you explain that to me? Just curious. The landscape is the most rugged in all of North America. They did not really do the big box there. Okay. And we were watching. We were watching close for that.

Now, there's two reasons that first that, you know, it isn't practical up there because of no roads. They did work very hard to establish lines. And then Friday on the 26th, yeah, it exploded. And that wasn't their fault. I mean, inevitable east winds. Okay. So the check goes. So stuff happens, in other words, right?

Yeah, you remember the check-go went 18 miles and 43 hours when it decided to race towards the coast, towards Brookings. It's just a miracle that we didn't lose that community. Yeah, agreed. We have state representative of Cordboyce with me. Cord, I appreciate the update on that. Someone may have a question for you. We'll see, hopefully they're on topic. Hi, good morning.

Who's this? You know, it's Brother Louis again. I don't really have a question. I appreciate this conversation. but um oh were you gonna call were you calling back then was what you were i was calling back on my other issues okay well once you hang on i'll i'll get to you we'll get you on topic here in just a minute brother louis all right it's it's life without a call screener here court you know how it goes we just take them live without a net as it as it goes here good to hear from you what is coming up next here

though now that uh one legislative days are over are we just uh are we just relatively safe until the next session what is the the process moving forward right now huh Well, I would just really encourage people to get involved in stopping with a citizen's initiative, the tax increases. Now, we were successful in getting it down from almost $15 billion over a 10-year period to the 4.3, which I think is still going to be a little bit extra. That's obviously a huge issue. We've got to do things for pro-family, pro-business aid. We don't even have a good inventory system bill of the business, the small businesses big that are actually leaving our unemployment rate is staggeringly about 5.3.

percent down. We've lost 2,800 jobs in the, you know, the last 14, 15 months. Yeah. It's, you know, it's real carnage. It's happening economically, and it's due to policy. There's a lot of policy that Oregon has not run itself smartly, unfortunately. It's all part of it. I appreciate you being on the case here, though, Court, and we'll have you back, and you be well, and you go out there and you help and put the fire out, okay? Right. God bless you, Bill. Thanks a million. All right, thanks for the call, Court. State Representative Court, Boyce.

It is a couple minutes before seven. KMED, KMED, H.D. H.D. H.D. Eagle Point, Medford, KBXG, Grants Pass. I want to get the brother Louis call. You wanted to expound on something when we started with him a few minutes ago. It's conspiracy theory Thursday. I'm going to let him run.