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There we go. Headphones are a little bit off. Everything is a little bit off, but I'm on. Okay, all right. Well, we have the data now. The test scores from public education. and they are kind of just barely edging up. That seems to be what we're looking at right now.

Oregonian, Road Valley Times, Daily Courier, all of them doing various takes and reporting on it. Daily Courier, and of course this is all about trying to just maintain or get back to pre-pandemic, pre-pandemic levels of proficiency in math and science and all in English, of course, we can't forget about that. Can't forget about the English here. And it looks like, you know, in spite of the fact that the pandemic's been over, it's just barely, barely kind of like, you know, groaning out a little bit better.

In fact, almost rounding errors. I'll take the, you know, like the report here from the Daily Courier here. grants pass 46.6 students of a percent of students were proficient last year slightly above the state average of 43 and a little bit higher than last year like 0.2%. Point 2%. I mean, these are just such tiny rounding errors. I mean, there are a little bit of green shoots. Some things have fell back a little bit. The Three Rivers showed about a percent up in English. proficiency, science proficiency at 21%. Okay. Boy, Medford School District. Slight decrease in proficiency district wide across all three subjects, scores remaining well below pre-pandemic levels in all subjects.

Ashland, of course, not surprising. Still one of the highest performing school districts in Southern Oregon, both before and after the COVID-19. Central point, some significant improvement, too. But the thing is, I still think that the numbers that they're using as, you know, the standard to try to get to, at least, you know, the statewide average. You know, if you can't get to at least the statewide average, you're thinking, okay, there's a real big problem. But when you're talking about statewide averages that are still like 40, 42, 44, 5% proficient

after millions and millions and millions and millions of dollars get poured into education one could arguably say that we still have some challenges here. I was looking at maybe see if I can pull up that Rogue Valley.

Okay, I had the Rogue Valley time story, but I know that there was a bill that was passed last session that is supposedly trying to fix a lot of the educational problems, but most of it doesn't kick in for another three or four years, you know, it's just said to, you know, so we're going to hear the stories in the school district's going to, are going to say, hey, we're a little bit better here. Oh, we're really

sorry. We're a little bit worse on this, especially like Medford 549 C and this and that the other. I don't know how else you can still look at it as yet another indicator that if you want to save the children of the future. You get on the school board, you do everything you can, you fight for reform from the Oregon Department of Education. And you try to get real reform, really good curriculum, and really good policy into your government schools. Because we're talking about government schools. That's saving the kids of the future. But everybody talks about, well, you know, it takes, it'll take a, you know, a few more years, three or four years.

if you have a child in the school system, you don't have three or four years, or you don't have five or six, or, well, it took decades to get here. It's going to take us decades to dig out of this. You know, and they're right. It probably will. It took us a long time to get to the point where 99.5% of the people that come out of the teachers' colleges have been trained on bad curriculum, and they don't know what they're doing. And they're hard left activists for the most part to think that, you know, underlying their teaching job is the need to bring out and produce throat punching Antifa political activists. Now, I'm being a little sarcastic and engaging in a bit of hyperbole. I mean, I get that, but we've all seen the issues.

We've all seen the issues of what's been going on in public education. And yes, I know there are good teachers in it, too, that are fighting their good fight. but you look at the stories about the well this is like we haven't even reached pre-pandemic level as if pre-pandemic level was a good level the schools were still overall when you look at the educational ratings piles of poo with rare exceptions you know okay ashlin ashlin and it's not just like there's something in the water in ashland ashland is a very area throwing money at the school district they're great very affluent families for the most poor too yeah I guess suppose it does make a difference I'm not trying to say it's just all

money but money and and family structure is not nothing either I mean that's another way of looking at this so I guess the takeaway is that if you want to fix the children for the future in the public school system you you start working on it right now But if you're trying to save the children of the present, the report cards that are coming out of the various school districts would still seem to indicate that maybe you should have it out now or have the kids out now, have some kind of alternative. And I know it is an incredible burden because essentially you're having to pay

for the existing system. At the same time, while you're trying to take care of your children or your grandchildren to make sure that they have a particular future. I know that my nephew and niece living over in Roe Griver, they have a little bit of outside school, but for their six-year-old daughter, they're doing a lot of homeschooling. Both of them pretty smart people,

mother especially, very good, and they're doing a lot of homeschooling, and they have her in some private religious education too, and it's work, and it's a sacrifice. But I've got to tell you, kids as smart as a whip, there is a difference. There is a difference there. So, I mean, they've decided to make that choice right now. And I know it's a big sacrifice, but yeah, the reports are still indicating coming out of the Oregon Department of Education

and the report cards and everything else that it's still pretty sad. And I don't like, I don't like saying that. I'd like to be able to say, you know, I remember the image of the yellow school bus, go off there. We know everything's going to work just fine. Now, I know that there are other issues involved with this, too. There's family structure, and, you know, not everybody was in a single household when I was growing up. We had nuclear families and things, and nuclear family, of course, good unit, and it helped a lot. It really did help a lot. That's broken down. We've decided that the best use of women's time out there is to be a cog in the corporate business structure.

You know, that's because this is under self-actualization, I guess, or whatever it is. There's all sorts of things you can look at. But I don't see how you can look at the report cards coming out of Salem with anything other than, all right, man, we've got to keep working on this, get on the school boards, do this, reform, reform, reform, yada, yada, get the woke out of it. But also get your kids out of it right now if you're trying to save them with rare exception. I don't know. How could you look at it any other way? Well, anyway, we can talk about this, but how many times have we gone through this subject, too?

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21 minutes after six, of course, the lead story here in Southern Oregon, as far as I'm concerned, Southern Oregon test scores not yet at pre-pandemic level. Not that pre-pandemic was great. And so, you know, we're talking five years. even after five years it's still not back and you know five years it's almost like half of someone's K through 12 experience you know how do you fix that I don't know if you can fix it maybe I don't know if you I don't Patrick's here Patrick I know you're calling on something different here can you sacrifice can anybody who can get out afford to sacrifice their children

in the public school system. I just ask you that before we go on to your topic. I just want to throw that at you because I know you have, you know, good opinions on things, too. Children are the most important, and it's a little tougher when you're a grandpa. You're not the parent. You don't get to make the decisions. Yeah. So that's where I'm coming from, but I was really been planning to call you for a long time about this subject,

but you brought it up today. So related to what you're talking about, you have these PSAs, I guess they are on KMED, join parents against child trafficking. PACT, DOS City, for $5 a month you can help us. And we teach children about the signs of child trafficking. When have you been hearing that? That must be something which is heard on the stream. What plays on the stream is not always what is playing on the terrestrial signal. So I may not be familiar with that.

Right now, I'm only getting the terrestrial signal because I don't know, God doesn't like me. I can't get KMED on my phone anymore. Okay. All right. So this is on the terrestrial signal. I'm not familiar with that. I'm not aware of that unless it's a PSA. Sometimes it's filler, if that's what might be going on.

That could be. All right. That could be. So they're telling you that you need to join parents against child trafficking, and you can, for $5 a month, and they teach the kids about the signs of child trafficking and sexual trafficking, and I'm saying, where are the teachers? Well, maybe child trafficking is not part of the curriculum. I would say that's correct.

Okay. Now, and by the way, I'm not trying to throw the teachers under the bus, because there are a lot of different mandates. There are many masters, so to speak, that are that are sticking their fingers into a public education right now. You have federal requirements. You have state requirements. And frankly, you have some local requirement, but I have to tell you the way things have been constructed here in Oregon or currently constructed, boards don't have nearly as much power as they once did

because they're just supposed to be rubber stamps for the Oregon Department of Education policy, I guess, which in my opinion is probably not that good, given the test scores and the results we're getting. I'm sure you're right, and I plan to help with that organization, parents against child trafficking, but I really see these teachers, like you're seeing, falling short, and failing the kids. And probably resisted, or not, I should say resisted, restrained from doing better in many cases, I would think because of state policy. I mean, look how long it took, look how many years. years it took. How many people came out of the system not being able to effectively read

and comprehend? How long before we figured out that this whole language way of teaching reading, which is when you would tell everybody to, I guess looking at the basics of this, looking at the word, and that's how you learn how to read rather than getting the building blocks of phonics and sounding it out so that you could figure it out on your own for the most part, how many people have been ruined? How many kids have been ruined already and almost have to be re-educated in order to learn how to read. But it took us like ages to do it. It's like we always end up going into these fads.

Everybody goes into these fads. We were taught phonics when we were kids, weren't we? I mean, that's how I was taught to read. You know, you sounded out, like the building blocks. And it worked. I don't get it. I see that as liberal teachers coming along and wanting to make a name for themselves, saying, oh, hey, I've got a great idea, new math or new,

the whole language or something like that so that they can feel like they've made an impact. Yeah, let's teach them in a way that, yeah, let's teach mathematics to them in a way that when their parents take a look at their homework, they have no clue what BS they're talking about on the sheet. That's what it is. I can guarantee you that truck drivers didn't start that. Teachers did. You think so?

Yes. All right. Oh, Patrick, I appreciate your call this morning. Thanks for picking it up. Okay, you'd be well. Thank you for being there. All righty-70-K-M-E-D. There are some other stories that we have this morning.

Let's see. OPEB. Oregon to lose an additional $400 million in federal climate grants. Ooh. 400 million, among more than a dozen Democratic states losing federal funding after the Trump administration terminated nearly $8 billion for those states this week. Department of Energy, of 321 grants, 19 awards in Oregon.

Anywhere from a 1.2 million to 250 million. Cuts including Warm Springs Power Enterprises, so that's on Native American Reservation. Portland General Electric PGE and Daimler Truck North America. Why would climate grants be going to a truck manufacturing company? I don't know. Is it maybe encouraging the electric truck? I don't know. But whatever, in total the state is losing about $405 million.

Okay. Here's the thing we're right back to it, that out of every $3 that the federal government has been spending and still continues to spend, out of every three, $1 borrowed. Now, I know this is a problem for progressives. And frankly, it's a problem for Republicans, too, because everybody's in favor of spending money. but we're at the point we're up against a wall and not being able to continue forever to borrow one dollar out of every three that are spent. I don't think you could do that, and neither can the federal government. So that's just the way that goes.

Other news this morning, let me see if I can, I wanted to get this story out there. I saved a couple of clips this morning in the news that I thought were pretty darn interesting. It has to do with the shutdown and how everybody's talking about. Well, the Republicans are saying it's illegal aliens. Democrats want illegal aliens to get free health care, et cetera. And the Democrats are saying, no, that's not the case. And have a couple of these right now. First cut I have is Democrat Senator Gene Chaheen,

and she was on Fox and Friends recently. And you want to tell me, the host really owned her, I think, after this one. Let's see. Okay, why am I not hearing anything? Okay. I haven't heard anybody in my party saying that illegal immigrants should get access to the health insurance marketplace. I'm so glad you said that actually I have some tape of your Democratic Party members saying this on the debate stage.

So they've all said, and let's play the clip. A lot of you have been talking tonight about these government health care plans that you've proposed in one form or another. This is a show of hands question and hold them up for a moment so people can see. raise your hand if your government plan would provide coverage for undocumented immigrants. They all raise their hands. Senator, that's literally every member of your party from moderate to more progressive that have said that in the past. Yeah, needless to say, you need to have much of a comeback on this one. There was another one, too, and this is involving, this was a CBS reporter on CBS Mornings,

talking to Elizabeth Warren, Senator Elizabeth Warren, and got a little testy, really. Publicans say what you're really fighting for is taxpayer dollars for, as they put it, illegal aliens. I know that's not strictly true, but there is a provision. Oh, excuse me, not strictly true. It's not true directly, but it is a flat out lie. It is a flat out lie. The way that they frame it. There is nothing in Medicaid. There is nothing in Medicare that permits one undocumented. immigrant to get $1 of assistance.

Senator, if you'd let me finish the question. Of course, I'm sorry. In the Democratic counteroffer, the proposal for funding, there is a restoration of Medicaid benefits for certain non-citizens that it had been taken away in the big, beautiful bill, as the Republicans put it. Republicans don't think those people should be getting health care on the taxpayer dime. I'm not asking on the merits. Politically, putting that in there exposes you to this talking point, this lie is

you put it why put it in there why is it worth it no what's happened is that what we're saying is that whenever hospitals give care what is going to be the level of reimbursement and the republicans said it's going to be a low level the democrats said we just want to go back to the level it was before because you're going to bankrupt hospitals you're going to put rural hospitals out of business the republicans and the democrats plan nothing changes the number of undocumented immigrants who still get care if they show up bleeding and unconscious at an emergency room. Okay, and she went out a little bit there.

I'm a little short on time. I had to revisit this by a little bit later. And, okay, so this is talking about what Elizabeth Warren is talking about is what happens when an illegal alien shows up because there are laws going back to Ronald Reagan's era, really, which require that hospitals have to have to take care of people for the basis. emergency care. So I'm not convinced that she's absolutely wrong in this case. I know I'm just supposed to be a team player and just say the Republicans are golden and happy and the Democrats are evil. She may be telling the truth, but she's also kind of shading it in my opinion because

there certainly has been a lot of push to roll back the Big Beautiful Bill acts because, let's face it, the state of Oregon would essentially take Medicaid funding that would be for reimbursement to hospitals. And the way it has been described to me is that they end up then taking other state money to end up backfilling illegal alien health plans. And that's the way this has worked. So it's, yeah, it's not like the money coming from the federal government went directly into the gullet of the illegal alien health care network if there is such a thing. But the Medicaid money coming in, which is Oregon Health Plan, allowed the state or enabled the state to take what other dollars it had and put it to where it would prefer because it tends to like non-citizens

more than its own than its own citizens and residents. At least that's the way it is, that priority of love kind of thing. So Elizabeth Warren is not necessarily wrong. I'm going to have to try to find out. I'm going to reach out to Cliff Benson's people today and try to get to the bottom of that because I think what Warren says is an interesting point. And if they're concerned about bankrupting hospitals, that is a thing. That is a real thing. You already know how provenance financially has been a dead hospital walking for quite some time. We've talked about that quite a bit. And a lot of it is due to indigent care. So they're not necessarily right, but not necessarily wrong either when the Democrats are complaining about some of this.

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waking up with the Bill Myers Show. 637, proud to have Jackie Gingrich Cushman on the program this morning. Yes, of that Gingrich family. Jackie, welcome to the show. Great to have you on. Good Good morning. Thank you so much for having me on. I really appreciate it. Hey, I really want to find out more about this Adams Memorial Foundation Board that you're a part of here. But before we get into that, how's new doing? We might at least catch up with the family business. Absolutely. He's doing fantastic. We talk quite a bit. He is very excited. His wife has been confirmed by the Senate as ambassador to Switzerland and Lincolnstein. So they are heading over the middle of the month. And so he's super excited about spending some time. I'm in Switzerland.

In Switzerland. Okay, well, you know, I imagine it's nice this time of year. Probably colder. Exactly. Right colder. I was more to visiting. You know, how does that work? You know, is there like a, you know, a nice big ambassador's residency or something?

I don't know how that works. I've never, you know. Absolutely. So every, yeah, so every posting has a different residence. Obviously, they haven't seen it yet. They haven't been there. But when she was posted under Trump won to the Vatican, they had a beautiful, beautiful residence with lovely gardens.

We look forward to checking it out. Okay. I wanted to, I'm glad to know, and thank you for catching us up on that. Pretty good news. I wanted to work on your day situation here on the Adams Memorial Foundation Board. And I guess the goal here is to, is it to write a wrong of all the various memorials around the country, that there's still no memorial for John Adams, our second president? Am I right about that?

Or is there something else I'm missing? It really is crazy. if you think about it. I mean, I don't know if you remember the book that David McCullough wrote, but a couple decades ago in the HBO series, but it really is amazing that we have totally overlooked our second president. And you're correct. We are here to fix that. Our mission is to build a memorial to Abigail and John Adams and the family in Washington, D.C. Why hasn't anything been built up to this point? Because practically, well, of course, I don't know. Maybe not every president has a memorial. I don't know. I've never really counted

the mop. I mean, you can help me out. Yeah, and not everyone has one. There are quite a few that have been done relatively recently. I'd say, you know, in the last generation we have Eisenhower that was done relatively recently. FDR has been relatively recently. But, you know, if you look at our founding fathers, John Adams

and Abigail, who was an amazing force, a very smart woman, and definitely he viewed her as his peer and intellectual equal. You know, he's the one that nominated towards Washington to be commander in chief. That's right. one that suggested Thomas Jefferson write the Declaration of Independence. And he's the one that

argued on the floor of the Second Continental Congress the most to declare our freedom. So I think he's been overlooked quite frankly because he's between Washington and Jefferson. That is a tough place to be. Yeah. And if I understand correctly, Jefferson and Adams fought like cats and dogs most of their lives too, didn't they? It goes right down to it. Well, they did. Yeah, they were friends, you know, their friends originally, and they both served overseas in different foreign postings and were friendly there. But when they came back, you know, we have to, we have to remember that at that time, George Washington with our first president, obviously, then John Adams. But the way that our structure of government was set up, the person that received the most votes was president. The second person was vice president was for Adams, Adams and Jefferson. And they were in different parties. So during that time, it was, it was very, they were very, very, very tough election and the second election for Adams, which he lost. And you're right, it took a long time. for them to reconcile and to rekindle their friendship. Yeah, so I guess for a while kind of frenemies, right?

You know? It wasn't tough. You know, people talk about how tough our politics today, you know, how tough it is, which it is, I'm not saying it's not, but it is no harder than the 1800 election between Adams and Jefferson where all kinds of things were said and written about both of the candidates. Oh, my gosh. You know, they would call each other whoremongers.

I was just, you know, things like that. It's stuff that even today, we're kind of like, what? We'd be saying what, but, I mean, political news and comments back then, you think they're brutal now. It ain't nothing compared to the so-called good old days, wouldn't you say, Jackie? Exactly. We forget about that. And the other thing that happened is John Adams, he viewed his greatest accomplishment

as president as keeping us out of war with France. So he's been a delegation against his own party's wishes to France to secure peace. That news did not come back until after the election. So it makes you wonder if people had known that he'd actually say. secured that piece, would he have won? Yeah, had there been better communications like today? Well, it just would have been on truth social today instantly, and then he would have known, right? That's exactly right.

All right. So, anyway, is there a place that the foundation here is thinking about that would be good for a John Adams Memorial in D.C.? Why might come to mind? Absolutely. That's a great question. So it needs to be somewhere prominent, right? You can't stick them in a closet. Earlier efforts kind of resulted in a place and that was.

appropriate for Adam. So we currently have legislation that has passed out a committee in the House, which is fantastic, and it would allow us to build on the reserve of a specific site on President's Park South, just south of the White House, kind of in the tree line, which would be a lovely, it would be fantastic because he was the first president that lived in the White House. So it's very appropriate that his memorial would be near the White House. And then you'd have this great north-south corridor of the White House. Adams, Washington Monument, and then the Jefferson Memorial. So it really would be a fantastic location.

Yes. How much they think of what it cost? Any estimates? We have estimates that we're kind of rough ballparks now looking at, you know, what recent memorials have cost and kind of the area that we're looking at, et cetera. And we're estimating $100 million. So we are currently rate, I know, you know, everything is expensive these days. So we are currently, we are raising private funds.

through the foundation, and you can find it online. You can search for adamsmorial.org. And we are also working with Congress for appropriations at some point. So we're doing both, but we're really excited about the incredible progress that we've made recently. Yeah. When I was looking at your foundation's website and what, you know, Kevin, your rep, who reached out to me, say you were looking to talk about this, I had no idea that there wasn't an Adams Memorial. Well, first thought to me, well, there must be an Adams Memorial, right?

second president for crying out loud. And it wasn't like there's a lot of scandal. There wasn't a lot of scandal in that particular administration. Was there? It wasn't like a teapot dome sort of thing with later presidents. He was there. He was, I mean, to your point, when we talk up to people, the first thing, they said, oh my gosh, you're right. There's no, there's no, there's no more, why is that? And the second thing is, you know, why was he overlooked? Let's do something about it. He was just, he was, you know, he was New England. He was very focused on his work between Washington and Jefferson, two very attractive, debonair men. And I think he just got lost in the process, but this is a family. He and John Quincy both served as president. They never owned

slaves. They were anti-slavery. John Quincy spent 17 years in the Congress fighting against slavery. I mean, this was an amazing family who served our country and really viewed our founding as a family project. What do you, as someone on, you know, the chair of the Adams Memorial Commission. What do you think are some of John Adams' biggest accomplishments that maybe the regular folks have just kind of glossed over or forgotten about, really? Oh, absolutely. So the interesting thing is he and Abigail had a network of friends and thought leaders prior to the revolution. So even in the 1760s, he was already writing thoughts on government that were really thinking about the three branches of government. So

they really kind of set the stage for enabling us to become a nation. So my father, because my dad and I talked about this, obviously. He views Adam's greatest accomplishment because Jefferson was, right? It was a hard election. It was a hard vote election. But his greatest accomplishment was actually the peaceful transfer of power to another political party. That was really the first time that had happened, right? Yes. And there was always, you're right, because I remember I would read a history that there was always this concern like, yeah, yeah, you're supposed to give it over to the people who are your political rivals, but will it really happen? Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, right?

Exactly, and he did, he did, which was amazing, and it proved that our country was much bigger than the personalities involved. That's really great. So, to find out more about this, and I guess you're trying to raise private funding, and do you have some big whales that are maybe putting in some seed funding? Just curious, got to ask. Absolutely, obviously, I'm not going to divulge any donuts, but we are working with people all the time. We've made great progress. I would love for people to go to the website,

not only good, which is always great, but also we have a monthly book club that is free. It's a virtual book club. So we're reading books and we have authors on that talk about the books on the Adams family. So a large part of this is also just raising awareness of what the Adams family contributed to our nation. And also, you know, the more you learn about what happened, at least for me, the more I get inspired about how bright our future is. Oh, good. The Adamsm memorial.org, the Adamsmorial.org, is where you can go to find out more about it. And there's a lot of information, things that I'd even kind of forgotten. But, you know, one little factoid, you know, there were always that rivalry between Jefferson and Adams that colored both of their lives. And, you know, they lived in each other's heads, really. It's what ended up happening. Now, wasn't it, was it Adams that said Jefferson still lives or was it Jefferson saying, as he's dying, Adams still lives. Do you remember who died first?

Absolutely. So you're right. They both died on July 4th, 50 years after our nation was founded. And Jefferson actually died first, but Adams didn't know that. So Adams is the one that said Jefferson survived. Jefferson, yeah. That just amazes me the coincidence after all that rivalry and the fighting of the revolution and everything else, and they die the same day.

and yet on our nation's birthday and yeah absolutely right unbelievable yeah just tied uh you know tied at the hip of you know i guess intellectually in many ways it's just a great story and it's about time that john adams get a memorial absolutely and so really appreciate you coming on jackie gingrich cushman what a deal thank you for the talk right absolutely thank you so much for having on i really appreciate it indeed and once again the adams memorial dot org thank you jacky it is a 12 before 47 KMED. Appreciate you waking up here. Friday morning on the Bill Meyer's show. For over 100 years, Gravely has built mowers that stand the test of time, rugged, dependable, always ready. Backed by an industry leading warranty, a Gravely Zero Turn is an investment in years of reliable performance.

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It's going through my Ron Wyden moment. Anyway, coastal farm and ranch. Let me go to Minor Day. Dave, part of the early morning risers club, always going to have you on quick one. What's up, huh? Let's hear it. Yeah, the state of California passed the thing that they would cover all medical for illegals for insurance, right? Yeah.

And they allocated $3 billion for it, and now they have a deficit of $12 billion. $12 billion just from that. Well, it's, you know, providing free health care is extremely expensive. I don't think anyone has to think too deeply about that. Newson's now trying to draw back on that by making the illegals pay, has some skin in the game, and they've frozen that particular part of health care for illegals. They're not taking any more in, but they're also telling the people they have to start paying premiums. Boy, okay, or what, I guess is what I would say.

Well, they don't get your insurance. Oh, okay. So then they just show up in the emergency room. Isn't that what happens? Well, if they show up the emergency room, a hospital can turn them down if it's not emergency. They don't have to accept them. Okay. They only have to accept them if it's life-threatening.

So Elizabeth Warren is kind of correct when she talks about this battle between the Republicans and the Democrats are, you know, we're arguing about how much to reimburse the hospitals for for illegal alien care. She's probably right about that to an extent, isn't she? She's probably right about that, but see, if they get, if they get the money given to them from the federal government, they can allocate other state money that would go to other programs. Yeah, so it is backfilling. It is backfilling sanctuary states one way or the other. There's no way of getting around it. Hey, Dave, I appreciate the call. Thank you very much. I also appreciate Tom. Tom is in the talent area. And, of course, maybe I should just start calling you Dr. Tom, okay?

Dr. Tom. How are you doing, Dr. Tom? I don't like that one. Just Tom's fine. Especially since you had to go through all that woke training to get the license renewed. You're telling me about that a while back. I don't have much respect for licenses in general. But anyway, I wanted to say about John Adams.

Two weeks ago, I went to Kevin Christman's studio. And he is building, and he completed it, a seven-foot high statue of John Adams standing with his wife, Abigail. No kidding. And it's seven-foot tall. It's the detail. Look on the wall. He had pictures of all the different pictures of John Adams and his wife. And from that, he built, made this statue.

And it's absolutely incredible in detail and life. likeness and so forth. It was so beautiful. I come from a, you know, family of sculpture, people have done sculptures, and I know what great work it is. Oh, Kevin Crispin, Kevin is an amazing sculptor, sculpture rather, and or sculptor. I want to say sculptor is the actual act. Sculpture is what they make. Okay, got it. I'll get that right. Yeah, and he tells a funny story. you know, he was working on those for months, and then one day his dog came in the studio and he looked at the statues, and he started barking at them because in fact they were people. That's really good.

So if it passed the dog test, you know it's really good. Hey, I'm kind of curious, though. Is the John Adams and Abigail Adams' Christman sculpture, is that finished yet, or still the work in progress, do you know? Well, you'd go through stages, and he had the complete clay statue, and then it's going to go into metal. But at this point, we're able to see the complete clay statue, and quite a story how it goes. He was building for the John Adams Academy in California, which basically that school teaches classical education, strong emphasis on the Bill of Rights of Constitution, you know, all the things, but really solid in academics, history, math, and so forth.

When they tried to get a John Adams Academy happening here in Oregon, Pam Marsh and Jeff Goldman specifically block that ability to have the John Adams Academy schools here in Oregon. It's just a terrible thing that they did to the children of Oregon, particularly since you began the day with talking about how bad the test scores are. Yeah, and it's so sad. And, you know, it brings me no joy, Tom, to come on here and bring news about that, okay, the accomplishments of the students, the test scores are not that great. They really haven't improved. And also, the main point, though, is that the goal has. been just to regain to where it was before the pandemic, which wasn't exactly roaring success,

even at that time? Yeah, exactly, and so forth. Yeah, the state of Oregon, you know, it's been corrupted by the teachers' union and so forth. They're more interested in getting their freebies and pennies and so forth than educating students. Yeah, but if you were to talk to a typical – But if you were to talk to a typical teacher, though, in the district, do you really think that's the only thing they'd be focused on, or that if you talk to an individual teacher, you know, I don't want to put a, you know, a tar or tar, an entire profession in the state with... Yeah, but you have to look at it.

You know, the main things happen with the teachers, the schools that teach the teachers have been taken over by basically communist, so they're educating teachers to be common. And so they really don't know better. It's like the board of Medford, they don't realize, you know, the city planners don't realize that they're communist and they're pushing the 2030. And the teachers don't either. And what's happened is that because the teachers lobby is the strongest lobby in Oregon, nothing passes or goes through the, you know, law passed or whatever that doesn't clear what the teachers. union because they basically control who gets elected and who doesn't. All right, so let's look at it and let's take it to its obvious conclusion, given that the teachers union, and you're right, is one of the most powerful public employee unions out

there. If they wanted better curriculum or they wanted a better outcome from those children, there's probably no better group besides parents that could demand that and make it happen because otherwise Democrats wouldn't get elected by them. Well, that's certainly, it's all part of this whole kind of like, I don't know, a fungus where it's all kind of supporting one another and so forth. But what's so, it's really going on. And, you know, we have this whole visualization of life looking through the lens of communism.

And it sounds wonderful, communism sounds wonderful, sharing and cooperative and group activity and so forth. But you get down to the details, it's totalitarianism. Well, you know, our culture has really, even our pop culture has promoted a lot of that, I would dare say. You know, that's communist values. And I know you're going to say this is kind of a stretch, but I don't know if you remember I was doing a Diner 62 quiz a few days ago, and it was about the Partridge family, right? even the pop music of that time, you know, late 60s, early 70s, hippie-dippy generation, taking care of business together, people who share and, you know, all that kind of thing is just,

wow, man, it's just, it's like I was listening to pop music and realizing that there was a communist manifesto messaging in partage family music, and it was a, you know, big hit song at the time, you know. Well, it definitely sounds, you know, it's a very appealing, the idea that, again, I, you know, share the wealth. Jesus and Mark both said share the wealth. Mark says, do it with the gun and the ripped. Yeah, and Jesus says you do it out of the goodness of your heart, out of your Christian heart, and that's the big difference. All right. On that note, Tom, I appreciate it. Oh, I had more to say. Oh, you did. Okay, I'll give you another. We just kind of waxing poetic this morning since it's early, but go ahead. I'll give you one more point. Okay, about the immigration,

You know, the basis of fighting immigration and so forth and promoting it and so on really goes back. The essence of the upstream is, do you believe in having a country or not? Do you believe that drawn a line in the sand that says on this side, we're going to have a limited government, that people control the government, the other side of the line, the biggest gun wins. That's why we have borders. and there's a real strong anti-border philosophy that comes from communism and the globalism and so forth. They kind of merged into one, globalism, communism, technocracy. They've all merged into one, and they all are against borders.

Yeah, that is something, one of the big reasons why I broke with the Libertarian Party a while back. Because I looked at that and just said, you guys are just full of nonsense. on this, although I, you know, I saw a lot of what else was going on. Hey, Tom, thank you. Glad you got it on, okay? This is KMED, KMED, HD1, Eagle Point, Medford, KBXG Grants Pass. Well, Fox News coming up here in just a minute. Mr. Outdoors is on the outdoor report. I think it's the opening weekend of deer season, and it's the first day at Deer Camp and all the gang is here. Shooting the bull, but never shoot no deer. I don't know if that's what's going to happen. I just remember there was a song out a long time ago.

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