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Episode Date: October 6, 2025

Mr. X looks at the Oregon judge order against Trump, we keep talking about that and more with Dr. Dennis Powers, plus the history of Roller Derby here for a bit of a, well, palate cleanser, plus your ...calls.

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Starting point is 00:00:18 Bill, am I on air? You are on air, my friend. Good to hear from you. How are things? Oh, my gosh. I thought you were in a commercial break. That's okay. I saw you.
Starting point is 00:00:27 I know your number. There are certain people that I know. know their number and because just have instant recall and here you are welcome oh i forwarded to you a couple of items of interest regarding this uh judge's decision about trump and the national guard and you know how i think and i i went immediately one of the emails i sent you has the actual decision as written by the judge okay and by the way it is a four it is a 14 day temporary restraining order, correct? That's right.
Starting point is 00:01:02 That's exactly right. And I would say that there's two possibilities here. This is, one, it is a move by the administration to determine at the Supreme Court level what type of power organ actually possesses to fight them. I'm having great difficulty conceptualizing a legal doctrine. that would prevent bringing National Guard to a one square block of a city that arguably the city's not interested in doing much to protect. What do you think? Well, I look at it and I analyze who the judge is.
Starting point is 00:01:44 Okay, the media is making a big deal out of, you know, Trump appointed her. Trump appointed her. She's going to do it. No, no, no. Mirkley and Wyden ended up helping her get in there. That's what it is. Okay. Well, that's what I'm trying to say. And if you go to the actual analytics of it, I sent the second email I sent you, has the list of federal judges for that district. And if you go to her, if you scroll down, and this is worthy of note for everybody to consider, look at her mailing address, Bill. And when you scroll down to it, and this is the thing, a proof is in the pudding, okay?
Starting point is 00:02:23 her address is the Mark O. Hatfield School of Law within the university system. Tells you everything you need to know, doesn't it? That tells you everything you need to know right there, okay? Yeah. Now, the second part of it is, is that you look at her decision. She starts off her decision, and then the first, I think it's the first paragraph, she makes a statement that our constitutional democracy. Well, okay, you can phrase it like that, but a judge,
Starting point is 00:02:53 should not. In fact, a judge should be disbarred for using the term constitutional democracy because that's not the United States definition. That's exactly right. And so you know her concept of law goes to an administrative thing based upon an environmental concept and the concept of administrative procedures through the consensus process because the Mark O'Hackfield School of Law is the one that teaches that throughout the whole thing and relies upon it for environmental type things. So I look at it and, you know, we're in a state of nightmares right now across this country.
Starting point is 00:03:36 She goes through and basically she is illustrative of the need for the decision and the need for the National Guard to be deployed. But then she reverts to other aspects of this. argument that make no sense because the reality is they're there to protect federal property. And the ongoing thing and the inner relationship nationwide by their own university system through the collaborative governance aspect, it's a network. And the Antifa people are well within all of this stuff.
Starting point is 00:04:14 And it's all a large syndicate, basically, an organized area. And would you recommend here? Now, I'm going to talk to Dr. Powers about this, but what do you think would happen if President Trump just ignore the order? Well, the reality to it is there's a possibility that it's a setup so the Supreme Court can make a final decision and say, look, you're wrong, Judge. But what we have to do is start pushing for the observance of that. And like you said, like what you just said, if he just ignored. or the order, because the order itself starts off on a false basis. We don't have a constitutional democracy.
Starting point is 00:04:57 We have a representative republic. Yeah. We have a representative republic. We have a representative republic. It's not a matter of 50% plus one means that you get to crush the other's point of view on something. All right. That's all there is to it.
Starting point is 00:05:12 That's exactly right. But, you know, the perception of what goes on in Portland, you know, she, She is literally defining it within that decision. No, I urge you, and everyone read her decision, read her words. How long is it that? Because my time to read in the order right now is pretty limited during the show. Should I wait until I'm off the show? You wait until you're off the show.
Starting point is 00:05:35 Okay. But there's a couple of key paragraphs in it. I could highlight and send you a couple of paragraphs. But the reality to it is it's something that everybody should get in the habit of reading and understand what we're facing, what trouble. is facing. You know, they talk about rebellion. Okay, rebellion takes many forms. And then they talk about the armed, you know, the decision about armed rebellion. Well, okay, how many times have these people been armed? The ICE agents that got shot at, okay? The people that got shot at through this
Starting point is 00:06:09 network of people. The people in Chicago, by the way, who got boxed in with vehicles and attacked over the weekend, too. You know, arms doesn't necessarily mean firearms. There are all sorts of ways to arm yourself to attack people, all sorts of ways. Well, that's exactly right. And there's all kinds of ways to plan and ensure that that rebellion is taking place. And if you look at the actuality, Oregon, California, and Washington a few years ago, created, and they stated this, that it was a compact that they were creating. Well, they can't create a compact without congressional approval. Oh, no, we just do it anyway, so they pick and choose who they ignore and where they wish to follow the law.
Starting point is 00:06:53 So, yeah, we're kind of a lawless way, Irma Gutt, just because she is a Trump appointee here, Ed, and I'm going to have to wrap on this comment. Obviously, it is not to be respected in this particular situation, and I think it's about time that this get on the emergency docket for the Supremes to knock this down where they probably will, okay? That's what I figured on. Well, I would lay odds that the Supreme Court will knock it down, and it will ultimately be a setback for the left in a hole. And, you know, they can sit back to, oh, we won a great victory. No, you didn't win a great victory. You just illustrated the need for what he's doing.
Starting point is 00:07:32 Yeah, for the ultimate victory here. All right. Hey, Ed, as usual, I'm going to give you a real American salute for having actually dug into the legalese here, okay? Thanks a bunch. All right. Thank you, Bill. Bye-bye.
Starting point is 00:07:46 I'm going to take a look at that. When I get off the air, I don't have time to read it all right now. But I will. I will. KMED, KMED, H.D. H.D.1 Eagle Point, Medford, KBXG Grants Pass. And we're going to have Fox News coming up here. Also, Kim Commando's digital update. Dr. Dennis Powers, who, of course, has a great legal mind, too. We're past meets present.
Starting point is 00:08:03 I'm sure we'll have a lot to say about this and more. And, of course, we'll also have the local history, which is a nice little pallet cleanser before we get back to the not-so-tasty stuff from Portland. If you're remodeling your house, start with the foundation. Millet Construction offers a no-pressure, thorough inspection of your homes. That's oracle.com slash Kim. Oracle.com slash Kim. Hear KMED in Krantz Pass on 1059, K290AF, Rogue River in South Jackson County on 1067 K-294-A.S. Ashland. Dr. Dennis Powers, retired professor of business law at Southern Oregon University, and not an AI bone in his body.
Starting point is 00:08:42 It's all real human intelligence. How you doing this morning, doctor? them back, the damn yon. I really like that, Bill. A real human. Are they around? Yep. Yeah. There are all of us. You know what it's like when you try to actually, especially when you try to call a government agency of some sort, and then you hit the AI answering system in the phone tree. It's like, oh, no, oh no. Or call Pacific Power, too, you know. That is so, so true because it's impossible really to get a real person in terms of any real. complaint. And you're absolutely right. And AI is really a big problem as to how do you control this genie that's out that can be used for very bad purposes. On the other hand, though, it's kind of fun to see them using artificial intelligence to put mariachi bands behind Hakeem Jeffries and all the rest of it and big sombreros. That was a lot of fun. You have to admit
Starting point is 00:09:39 that. That's fun. That was a lot of fun. But, you know, I couldn't even find it. You know, Until finally, I was able to talk to a publisher of a newspaper outside of Southern Oregon, who gave me a link that I was able to send out to various people. It was hilarious. Oh, yeah. And people having a little bit of fun on the net at the left's expense. Nothing wrong with that. But, Kate, let's have a little fun as we do our history first.
Starting point is 00:10:09 We always want to do a little pallet cleanser, and then we'll get right back into the grunge in just a minute, okay? but this is the history of roller derby, and politics is feeling like an out-of-control roller derby at the moment. You know, people, you know, punching each other, throwing them down on the wood and stuff. But this actually started what in the late 1800s in. When did they come to the Rogue Valley here? You actually are digging into that in today's history profile. Well, you see, this is, do you remember telecasts of the Roller Derby when you were growing up in the West? Yeah, roller derby and then big-time wrestling, too.
Starting point is 00:10:46 You had to have that spectacle at least once a week, too. Absolutely right, because as a matter of fact, I remember it back on the East Coast in New York City, New Jersey. And it really came out and was due to Leo Seltzer, a Portland Oregonian, film publicist. Really intriguing, Bill, because he was... one who had organized the dance marathons. All during the Great Depression, they had a lot of those marathons, 30s, 40s, 50s, right? Even through the 1950s, right? And that was...
Starting point is 00:11:25 But you write here that he thought that all of those cash prize dance marathons and the Depression were boring, right? Yeah, he did. And what was interesting is that his main concern was that he was a film publicist. And so what he did, though, was in with the sports writer, Damon Runyon, and that's one that's in the Broadcasting Hall of Fame, he, being Seltzer and Runyon, Bill, created a structured game with more contact with skaters and then created the roller derby, although you had had roller derbies going way back to almost 150 years ago,
Starting point is 00:12:12 and in any event yeah you were talking here how they had a roller derby in New York City 36 skaters and I guess the winner and another skater died shortly after the contest right because it was pretty rough really rough back
Starting point is 00:12:28 in the day you know it bill what's interesting also was that they died shortly it was a six day race and they had $500 in prize money back then yeah and that would be like one and a half years a two years of salary, so it was really quite a motivator.
Starting point is 00:12:46 And in any event, we had Seltzer, who then went ahead and started up the dance marathon. He also then started up as the father of the roller derby because of the fact that he really, he was brilliant, and his son, Jerry, who apparently had also lived for a time in Ashland, but In any event, they were just very brilliant publicists. And so when Jerry took over from his dad, which was really in the late 1950s, he took it to great heights because he syndicated the Roller Derby Telecast, and that's what I can remember seeing. Yeah, and this was all, and this all started from people in Portland and Southern Oregon.
Starting point is 00:13:40 and that essentially came up with the roller derby craze, really? That's right. That's exactly right. But then in the 1970s, you had the rise of baseball, TV, and other sports. But Jerry then closed the business in the 1970s. But Jerry, this was really a very incredibly successful family because Jerry began the first computer ticketing company, which became Ticketmaster.
Starting point is 00:14:11 Oh, man. And when he died in 2019 at age 87, he not only had stock, but was a senior vice president. But then what happened, though, was that when he had closed the business, because he had seen, you know, the trends that were coming with baseball TV, etc., then what happened, though, is that immediately the women's flat track derby association was formed. And there's now some 450 geographical leagues, leagues primarily in the United States over six continents. And we have one here in Southern Oregon, no way. And that's where we come into it again because the Southern Oregon Derby website, S.O. Derby, I came through it through a friend of mine who was one of the prime organizers of this league. And she is the general manager of a very well-known prestigious theater here in town. And I said to myself,
Starting point is 00:15:14 now, this is kind of intriguing because it's, let's take a look at that. So anyway, the Southern Oregon Derby, it's skater run, skater own, a nonprofit league. It's the first one in the Rogue Valley, started as I mentioned in 2009. Games are purchased and held at the Medford Armory. Tickets are purchased through its website. It has a short schedule, but what's interesting is that SOD, the Southern Oregon team, is four and three. The rules is the fact that you have one skater called the jammer that tries to lap all the defenders, and these jams last two minutes, and as you go around people, you score points. So scores are generally over 100 points.
Starting point is 00:16:06 Bill, you're going to love this and the listeners too because you'll find names in there because I've watched these games it's not, these are on So this is when you're not playing bridge you go out and watch Roller Derby, right? Oh, and then I also get prepared for KVD.
Starting point is 00:16:23 All right. But, Bill, I got to tell you some of these names. There's Naughty-Moddy, there's Cablamo, there is Killer Taco, Uh-huh. There's Madame Morticia. These are their names.
Starting point is 00:16:37 Yeah, this is essentially big-time wrestling on skates, isn't it? I get to tell you, these are women. And, you know, actually what I just loved what I was going through it is that they hit, they block, they trip, they shove, which is okay, they bully through. But on the other hand, I started laughing to myself because I just said, Bill, well, this is a place where the dates for our governor, me going to the women's room to change. Well, you know what I would love to see, though, honestly here. And we'll post this up there because it's a fun story of the origin, the Oregon origins of the Roller Derby and everything else
Starting point is 00:17:18 and how they're still going today here and how you can find out more. But I was just imagining what it would be like here if you could do legal decisions based on Roller Derby performance. And so I think about Governor Kotech taking on Pam Bondi on skates, roller derby, you know, kicking, biting, whatever it could might be, and who might win that particular derby, if we could, in the legal realm? Well, seeing the way our governor handles things, she would probably hire to crack block the, you know, the federal administration
Starting point is 00:17:51 because the lies that they are doing, the lies have made Oregon a laughing stock across the country because I'll check in. But on the rollerblading, it's a fun thing to watch. These are ladies. These are women who are very athletic. They train. And, you know, I've watched, for example,
Starting point is 00:18:12 women wrestlers here at SOU, and they're really nationally ranked. These, this is the fact that women who are into sports against other women without having the handicap of, of some male who can't succeed with men. Oh, so they actually make sure that women's roller derby really is women's roller derby.
Starting point is 00:18:35 It's all female. I should have made that clear. It's all women. Okay. All right. And it's a great story. And folks, go to their website. Okay, we'll do.
Starting point is 00:18:46 S-O-Durby.com. Doc, I appreciate it. Pallet cleanser over. Time to, well, re-dirty the pallet right now, I suppose, because there's a lot going on here. And I imagine you have plenty to say about the legal doings of the weekend. Would that be fair? Coming up. Oh, for all of us, you bet you're my friend.
Starting point is 00:19:02 All right, Dr. Dennis Powers, where past meets present. That was the past, kind of the present, and now more present next. Hi, it's John at Wellburn's Weapons, Southern Oregon Suppressor Headquarters. Come check out our 72Sold.com. Good morning. This is News Talk 1063, KMED. And you're waking up with the Bill Myers Show. Now we go over some of the legal news and views, things going on.
Starting point is 00:19:26 Dr. Dennis Powers, who are past meets president. Hey, Doc, hey, did you hear the Grants Pass School Board? Remember that case? You were always talking about Alliance Defending Freedom. Oh, that's an interesting one, Bill. Yeah, yeah. And Alliance Defending Freedom, of course, was defending the two, what, schoolteacher, principal, former people in the Grants Pass District there.
Starting point is 00:19:48 Daily Courier ended up covering that story on Saturday. and it was a pretty interesting read, and it was Rachel Seger, who was then assistant principal at North Middle School, Rachel Damiano and Medart, a science teacher at the school. This was that, you know, that I Resolve campaign that got them sideways with the school district. On the trans issue. Yeah, and so, yeah, and so this ended up now, I guess apparently we're getting very close. there's been a settlement made. The Grants Pass School Board is okay to settlement in this lawsuit. The part that I found interesting, and nobody's commenting on this yet, though, because I guess
Starting point is 00:20:30 the whole agreement is not out yet, but part of the settlement is that MedArt has been forced to resign or is forced to resign or give up her job in order to complete the settlement. I found that interesting, but I don't exactly know why that is part of the settlement right now. And I don't know if you have any particular insight or not, but I thought it was an interesting story you should know. Oh, and I had the same question, Bill, when I read that article, and you're right, because it really just said that as part of the settlement, that she needed to resign, although when the lawsuit was first brought, both have been reinstated. right uh from this out of control approach having to do with trans and southern Oregon you know uh dash dash Salem uh and in any event it said that the that she said that she was doing this but she couldn't come in further because she was waiting for
Starting point is 00:21:33 what the final settlement offer uh and the agreement is when they signed off so we're all waiting for that i i wonder if it's one of those things where the school district is like okay, you're damaged goods now, here's a million dollars, go away, and then we're going to go back and do what we want to do. I don't know if it's that simple or not. I'm just engaging in conjecture. No, completely. But you know, you're right in terms of the arguments going back and forth,
Starting point is 00:21:59 the Alliance defending Freedom, which is really standing up for us against the tsunami of negativity that's coming from Salem, and it's weeped its way into Southern Oregon. was into this, and I know that they are really taking up the cudgel and as the ACLU alternative Alliance Defending Freedom, as to your point, I agree, and I think that part of it on the other argument was saying, hey, she can come back, and there's nothing you can do about it. So let's talk about how you want you being the trans-arguers are going to go ahead and settle this. And maybe they just don't want any trans-arguers there. I don't – I mean, I'm just – it's the only thing that comes to mind that could be the only reason we don't want anybody that's going to disagree with ODE's policy. I, Bill, I agree with you, and I'm going to give a slightly different read into the mix because she – who then is going to, when she was there, she would be getting lots of biased pressure
Starting point is 00:23:14 that come in from the far left. This is a Marxist revolution that's going on throughout the United States. You know, when you connect all the dots, it's Marxist. Okay, well, let's take the Marxist revolution away from that one because we don't know what we don't know about this because the entire settlement is yet to be announced, but we'll get back to that when it does. How about that?
Starting point is 00:23:33 Yeah, well, actually, Bill, that's what connects. all the dots in terms of anti-Tesla, you know, when they were burning up Teslas with the way the attacks are on ice, with the assassination of Charlie Kirk, when you connect all these dots, and then you see how Southern Oregon has changed over 30 years, underneath Salem with its national fabrications that friends of mine who will call me up and say, is your governor are really doing this? I said, yeah, she's covering because the fact she wants to get to Washington. Pretty much. So it's overall, I think, really something that everyone's got to stand up for, not words, but stand up with deeds. So let's take it into what happened over the
Starting point is 00:24:20 weekend, because as I see, the timeline was pretty interesting with President Trump, and the goal was to, okay, we're going to bring federalized Oregon National Guard troops into Portland, and then on Friday, Judge Immergut. Now, of course, they're always saying that this is a Trump appointee, but it's actually a Ron Wyden or Jeff Merckley-friendly appointee. Is that a fair assessment, first off, first and foremost, before we move along? Excellent point and excellent assessment. Okay, all right.
Starting point is 00:24:48 So we know it's Ron Wyden's judge, Jeff Merckley's judge, says no. Okay, so we're not going to allow Oregon National Guard. So then President Trump says, okay, we're not going to take. Gorgon, we'll go to California. So any twosom-newsum gets really upset at that point. And so he's going to fight that. And then apparently there was also talk about bringing Texas into, Texas troops at some point. Well, you know, if you don't want California, Texas will do some shopping around. You know, that kind of thing. You know, Trump is amazing with the way that he comes up with different ways to try to accomplish public safety.
Starting point is 00:25:29 And as to Merckley's choice, it was on a TRO again, is all they wanted. Yeah, and this doesn't mean that it's over, right? It's a temporary restraining order 14 days. That's it, right? Yeah, and they're appealing that. That's being appealed. They're going to continue because the equities in this are so much in terms of preserving law and order. it's not just this combatos
Starting point is 00:25:59 that legal argument that we did that federal troops cannot be used for state purposes the counter arguments coming in to the Supreme Court is protecting federal structures when the state is not yeah and that's the main issue what I'm getting at here and so let me just I'm just going to lay it out to you here doc it's pretty well known that that in order to enforce law there wasn't being followed, you had Ike back in the day, ended up having federal troops. He didn't go to
Starting point is 00:26:31 National Guard. He had federal troops going to enforce desegregation at the time. And now, is that where, now did we do posse comitatis laws after that? I don't know what the time frame was that that came in and would just federalizing or just taking federal troops and putting it to providing security around the ice facility. Would that be violating? Posse Comitatis. What do you think? Well, Posse Comitonitis goes way back to just after the Civil War. Okay. And what's interesting there is that where our civil war, way back in the 1860s, was due to the
Starting point is 00:27:09 Democrats with Abraham Lincoln being a Republican having to do with they wanted to keep slavery, we're now having here to fast forward to right now modern times, where the Democrats are doing a civil war because they cannot give them. a power and if we connect the dots, it's the reason why we're having this problem. So on the legal side, the equities and the arguments that the administration has, especially with the supremacy clause, and this is in a legal approach, it's one of those ones to where the Supreme Court, unless the far left has been able to nudge them out from the way they were demonstrating against the semi-recru, this is a civil war. It is Marxist.
Starting point is 00:28:00 And in any event... But who has the stronger hand in this particular case? We know that this is essentially soft civil war through legal means, right? Who do you think has the stronger hand? But you see, Bill, it's not only to me in working with you, it's not only just legal, it's political violence. It's the assassination of Jews. It's assassination here in the United States. This is a Marxist revolution. It's exactly what happened with Fidel Castro. Now, the key thing is, what can we do about it? Well, I think that the senator from Louisiana was really good in terms of when he said, what you're going to have to do is make their penalties, such as get rid of this no bail rules in these Marxist states, you need to go ahead and put on
Starting point is 00:29:00 penalties, like when you have a judge from Biden that gives eight years to an assassin against Kavanaugh, because the fact he is a trans in transitioning saying the poor boy, we need to help. Yeah, the poor boys misunderstood. It's the thing where we have to stand up and fight. It is nothing, and it's hard to do. Okay, but still, back to my earlier legal question, though. We know that presidents in the past have actually taken federal troops, not National Guard, rather, federal troops,
Starting point is 00:29:39 and put them on the streets of America to enforce an issue here. Is there an issue to taking a federal, federal charge? troops and protecting specifically federal property and federal property only that is not being protected by the state properly. What say you? Okay. So your issue on a number of ones that are coming in, not to minimize it, is on the use of federal on federal rather than National Guard, which could be authorized, which is also
Starting point is 00:30:11 defined as federal. But on that issue, in my estimation, it doesn't make as much of a difference as to whether it's federal. It's an argument used by the Marxist. That's the argument being used in lawfare. But on the other hand, as to the overall look, I really see that the Supreme Court is going to uphold as this ability to bring them in to protect federal structures.
Starting point is 00:30:41 Okay, so you're thinking ultimately that Trump has the stronger legal hand on this, in your opinion? Well, once you get past these district court judges, but here's the reason why these district court judges are doing what they're doing. It's not just the fact that they're Biden appointees. They are fearful of Antifa. Yeah, well, that certainly may be part of it. And, you know, my friend Ed ended up noting that the judge immigrant, who is, of course, federal judge. Is that a district judge or what is that? I don't know the actual court.
Starting point is 00:31:16 than it's coming from. I should be more knowledgeable on this, but that's what you're for. Keep going. Okay. But she lists her address as the Mark O. Hatfield Law Center, right? Which tells you that this is not
Starting point is 00:31:32 a conservative judge in the first place. Can we agree on that much, right? Oh, you're absolutely right in looking through the weeds to see who is peering back at you. And these are people that believe and what a misnomer. Progressive? No, it's not progressive. You know, men can undress in
Starting point is 00:31:54 women's bathrooms and all the different things? Yeah, but can this then be hurried up? Can this, can this challenge then? Because everyone's going to appeal what's going on in Portland. We've got 14 days. What happens between now and then over the next 14 days? What are the legal options for the Trump administration? How do you believe the Kotech administration who, you know, really doesn't, I don't think really wants peace to descend on Portland and certainly doesn't want ICE to be able to conduct the business. Well, yeah, that comes as naturally as breathing here in the state of Oregon, okay? So I'm not going to argue your point there. On the legal lawfare battle, what happens, what are the options over the next 14 days here as they get ready? What goes on?
Starting point is 00:32:40 Both sides will continue, period. And Tifa, in Bowden-Bond. KOTAC will continue. The police will continue not to support the protection of ICE headquarters. I mean, this is totally unlawful as to what they're doing. Will higher courts or will the Supreme Court, in your opinion, agree with the Trump administration on this or not? Okay. On that one, it's always a bad. Yeah, what they're doing, what the lawfare far-left Marxists are doing is arguing the facts. Start right from the beginning. The police chief in Portland is going ahead and mimicking the same type of thing.
Starting point is 00:33:27 Oh, this is peaceful. We have, you know, they have photo ops, marathons, running past. The whole thing is a marathon because these Oregonians want to get to Washington. The bottom line, to me, though, is that the Supreme Court will uphold the general right and that TROs are not appropriate. And I believe that even with Newsom, or Nuscom, going ahead and bringing a lawsuit that he's saying to do against the use of Federal or National Guard or however we want to call. call it in Oregon, he doesn't have the standing. It's just all politics like Schumer.
Starting point is 00:34:13 Okay. So when we look at, when we listen to all the, all the noise and the drama, the noise and smoke and drama that is going on here, I don't like the idea of normalizing the idea of troops having to defend federal facilities, but I'm certainly seeing the need for something like this. It would be nice not to have to normalize, but this is being driven from, from state neglect or state policy you know state doesn't want ice really being able to do it's a its job effectively we understand that part of it but as long as it is not patrolling the streets of portland you know that's see this is how they always bring it up doc they're patrol no they want to take over the streets of portland no we want to take over this portion where the trouble is
Starting point is 00:35:02 by a federal facility and i think that that would be constitutionally permissible It's as long as it is limited to where the trouble is. That seems to me to be the way to look at this, is it not? I agree with you on it, except one caveat, my friend, having to do with patrolling. That's used because the far-left Marxists want to go ahead and stop the picking up of criminal aliens, including those who have gone ahead and just came across the border underneath Biden's lack of will and is his politics to try to pack the voting registrations. And by the way, a lot of the definition of that.
Starting point is 00:35:48 A lot of other illegal aliens they weren't necessarily looking for are getting picked up because of, you know, Holman's actions. It's like you're making it tough. The more we start sweeping, then we find more people than we thought. You know, it's kind of backfiring in many ways against the less. You're right about that, but what we have here is a fight for the soul of the country, and if the quote-unquote progressives fight, it's just about keeping power, and it's anti-country, and that's what we're seeing when we connect all the dots, and you're right.
Starting point is 00:36:23 I like your conclusion. The only question is, is on the definition of patrol, what is patrol if you have eye, members who have information because the local police are not helping them at all. As a matter of fact, they get boxed in. They're saying your problem. The whole thing is horrid when you look at really what the objective is. It's not for this country. But the definition of what is a patrol when you need to go out and pick up a gang member who has been released from jail 25 times and has come across the border 10 times and is out on bail to commit another horrific crime, what is the definition of patrol? And that's where the far left is coming from. And this is where something which will
Starting point is 00:37:15 likely be decided then in the Supreme Court. Do you think this one makes it to the emergency docket, doc, or not? You know, on that one, I'm not sure, because the lawfare by the Marxist is one that has to do with complaining and marching against the Supreme Court as to what they're saying on these TROs. And naturally, and, of course, Supreme Court, you know, you can say that it's an independent court, but it's as political as anything else, though. They read the papers and read the news and everything else, and so that pressure can't help but have some influence, in other words, right?
Starting point is 00:37:56 Yeah, and I think, Bill, it comes down to just plain pure survival, because to us, allow protesters at two in the morning outside the Supreme Justice's house to bang on the drums and throw out firecrackers, and then to also allow them to have a trans who has murder in his or her heart, whatever the pronoun is, to go ahead and murder Kavanaugh, and then to give them eight years, no, when we connect the dots, it is a civil war. Yeah, and it's a very dicey situation. So even the Supreme Court may be very careful on this. All right. Doc, we'll have you back back. We'll have you back next week. We'll talk more about this. I think it is a, you know, these are certainly living in interesting times. But I think that the crap that's going on on the streets of Portland right now will be ending at some point because it has to. All right. It's one of those things.
Starting point is 00:38:56 Good conclusion, my friend. Yeah, it can't be tolerated in this tolerant state. We tolerate the wrong people for sure. Dr. Dennis Powers, retired professor of business law, we'll have you back again. Be well. Thank you. Take care. DennisPowersbooks.com, by the way. It is 851.
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Starting point is 00:42:00 By the way, Dr. Steve has, while you weigh crowns. And if you've never experienced that, it's a lovely thing. It is a beautiful thing. All right, all right. Central Point Family Dentistry.com. Jim writes me, hey, Bill, correct me if I'm wrong, the continuing resolutions the Democrats aren't voting for us. The budget that was passed by the Democrats in Biden makes total sense to me. Trump hasn't implemented the budget, only the BBB.
Starting point is 00:42:26 Very true. But, of course, in order to implement that CR, they want the BBB neutered, I guess, here, Jim. Okay. Susan writes me, Bill, when you play the Johnny Carson intro music the other day, it took me back to such a special and often tough place. As a very young woman, I worked as a nurse's aide on a hospital medical floor, rather. meant lots of feeding, turning, vitals, helping in bathrooms, and so much more. Also worked the desk and took off orders.
Starting point is 00:42:55 But anyway, you know, I would sit up in my bed a lot of times light a cigarette and turn on Carson. Nothing compares to Carson today. I watched Jimmy Kimmel exactly twice and never again. I feel lucky to have had Johnny Carson to decompress after a long day. I appreciate that take, Susan. Appreciate your call or your email, rather, okay? Keith writes me about the ball stadium. We were talking about that last week, that last week with Fred Herman.
Starting point is 00:43:23 It says, Bill, when the communists take over, the ball stadiums are where they will lock up everyone. Empty the malls, rogue X, vacant buildings. I hope not. Dale Casey writes it about Hawthorne Park. Good morning, Bill. A baseball park of that purpose would do nothing but become one huge bottleneck for city traffic. And the drivers on the freeway would tend to have more accidents on the viaduct due to Gawkes. city officials and council would really be showing their short-sightedness, if not ignorance, should they build such a ballpark at that location.
Starting point is 00:43:54 The Harry and David Fields would be a better location, however, it would cause problems for another freeway interchange. I spent years trying to get on to South Pacific Highway from South Stage for as many as six times a day, and it was never a picnic. The interchange was sorely needed way back in the 1970s and 80s. And we had John, right me, we were talking about. talking about test scores and the point of view I was taking from this the other day is that the other test scores edged up in some cases Medford 549 C just you know went down a little bit overall if you want to save the kids now you got to get them out I don't like saying that it's just reality but John says I agree that the best course of parents or for
Starting point is 00:44:36 parents to take is to get the kids out of the public school the way I see it it is of modest improvements in the future test scores happen the educators will use this as proof that something is being done right. In all likelihood, these current scores were tweaked to show a little improvement as future scores will be adjusted to look better. Using the COVID lockdown as an excuse is just an excuse. Until the preponderance of liberal teachers retire or are shown the door, nothing of much consequence in public education is going to happen.
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Starting point is 00:45:29 And, of course, we're going to have a pebble in your shoe Tuesday tomorrow after today. Ken writes me, hey, Bill, judicial watch talking about impeaching judges. Hey, I like the idea, Ken. Because it does take two-thirds of the Senate to agree to remove them. And maybe you can look at impeachment as the punishment, maybe. We can talk about that tomorrow. See you then.

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