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Episode Date: October 8, 2025

L.A. detective Nils Grevillius joins the show, we talk about the repeat offender criminal problem, Logans Law needed? D62 quiz, Open for Business with Lisa McCleese Kelly Network in Action - two more members talk it up!

The Bill Myers Show podcast is sponsored by Klausur drilling. They've been leading the way in southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausor drilling.com. Just delighted to have Nils Gravelius on. He is an L.A. based private detective. And Nils is an interesting cat. He conducts all sorts of investigations. Doesn't matter where you are.

Doesn't matter what country you are in. In fact, what, you even do investigations overseas for people. Isn't that right, Nils? Welcome back to the show. That is correct, Mr. Meyer. Yeah. Good to have you on. By the way, you just call me, Bill, if it's okay.

Okay. All right. Well, I didn't want anybody to confuse you with Bill Clinton, but go ahead. Okay, that's good. Hey, tell us a little bit about your practice, first off, because even though you're licensed in L.A., you work practically everywhere. And what kind of cases do you tend to do? Is there anything in particular that you specialize in?

well bill it's like this uh i am hession to the bone so if people people hire me i work for them i steer away from cheating husband cases you don't do that okay all right well i rarely do insurance companies want to pay my premium so i don't do a lot of insurance claims but uh how about cold case homicides It's kidnapping recoveries, recovering stolen property, conflicts of interest, nothing too serious. Okay. Sounds pretty heavy duty to me. And you got your start as a soldier. Could you tell me a little bit about that?

Because it's an interesting switch from being a soldier then and getting into the, well, I guess, clandestine service for the private sector, so to speak, right? Well, I, you know, I started as a scout in the infantry. I used to work in the DMC in Korea when I was a young person, and then I got recruited to counterintelligence. And from there, I worked for the civilians. And then I got recruited by the Pinkerton Service. I was a special agent, the Pinkerton's, and decided to go out on my own in the early 90s. Okay. Out of curiosity, what is it that attracted you to the private investigation world?

And then maybe we'll get on to some other stories. Well, Bill, you'll hear this from some homicide detectives if you put a couple of drinks and then they'll be honest with you. There's a very thin emotional membrane between their emotional makeup and many of the people that they investigate. And I'm the same way. if somebody employed me at a bank, say at Wells Fargo, Bill, I just sit there all day bored out of my mind and wondering how I could tunnel in over the weekend. So this is a little bit better for me.

So there's a case to be made then that, well, that's the joke that the differences between police and the crooks emotionally are not all that different. And to catch a crook, you have to think like a crook, as it were. I think that's a fair summation. In fact, probably the very first detective ever, V-Docke in Napoleonic-era France, was in fact a criminal who became the head of the Sirete. But we digress, don't we? Yeah. What is your overall impression of criminal justice today?

And we seem to have a lot of tension in the United States these days. you know, you even look between the federal and local authorities, you know, what is law in order? You know what I mean? Law and order. What is law and order? I mean, that would be like asking what a woman is, Bill. I think we're being experted to death in this country, and I'll give you an example. Recently, we had this Mr. Federico in testifying before a legislative body, I believe Congress,

about Logan's law, his daughter getting murdered by a career criminal, a 30-year-old man who should have been in state prison but wasn't. Yeah. And experts, when I say experts, I mean psychiatrists go about undoing all of their prior learning, and they have removed the term psychopath from the DSM because of the negative connotations of identifying a criminal as a psychopath. What's a psychopath, Bill? A psychopath is a man or a woman who has permanently and forever surrendered their conscience. They have no conscience, and it cannot be put back into them.

And that is where we are failing in our penal system. We don't differentiate between the petty criminal, the young kid who's done something stupid, the drug addict who needs treatment, and the hardcore psychopath. Back to your point here with the hardcore psychopath, arguably the murderer of Stephen Frederico's daughter, which was, like I said, this father anguished talking before Congress the other day. And not only what is it just an incredibly nasty crime, but the fact that the perp had done this, well, 39 arrests, more than 25 felony charges, and yet he was on the street. This is to your point, I guess, really where we're going. Yeah, exactly. This is where we're at. Thirty-something years ago, there was a case in Northern California and Petaluma involving a young girl named Polly Class.

I remember that. Who was abducted and assaulted by a man who was a career criminal, not dissimilar from the character in this. Alexander Devonte Dickie is in no way different from Richard Allen Davis, career criminal, Psychopath, highly disordered individual with a propensity to reoffend. Yet the legislators create systems that allow judges to just release them. They rely on psychiatric opinions. And the problem with psychiatric medicine bill is there is no metric for malpractice. Psychiatrists won't allow anybody to provide a metric and won't allow enforcement.

within their own regulatory bodies. Otherwise, it's more of an art and what is the interpretation of the artists, so to speak, rather than a clear divining line of what is success or what is failure in a treatment program. That's precisely correct. You can see the same thing in large church bodies with the problem of offending clergy. The churches rely on psychiatric opinions, psychological opinions of quote-unquote experts that they paid for to give them what it is that they want. Yet we go after the clergy, we go after the church, we go after the criminal, et cetera, but we never take a hard look at the psychiatrist who issued

the opinion. Now, I have friends who are psychiatrists who cannot be fooled by psychopaths. They can't be hypnotized by these people, okay? But they are in the minority in their profession. I've talked with another L.A. area Psychiatrist, her name is Dr. Carol Lieberman. I don't know if you've ever come across her or not or talked with her at all. I have heard of her. Yeah, I've heard of her, yeah. And she was talking about, you know, dealing with career criminals.

I don't know if you have an opinion on this. She said one of the biggest issues in her practice was that, and of course she does a lot of, she calls herself the terrorist therapist or something, right? Yeah, that kind of thing. But point being is that. that the treatment or the psychiatric treatment these days is usually we get you in and start giving you drugs when what could probably be more effective is to actually, and you have dealt with criminals all these years. I don't know if you can weigh in or on this or not Nils, but she said that what is really needed is more talk therapy, but yet talk therapy is the most expensive way to provide it. I'm wondering if that's why we're having such a problem in our sentencing in our criminal justice world

when you have the psychiatrist saying, oh, let the poor deer out, Nils. Well, talk therapy isn't effective on psychopaths, Bill. Psychopaths use therapy and psychiatric treatment to sharpen themselves up and make themselves into better criminals, that's all. Oh, okay. Well, I'll bring that up to her next time I talk to her someday. all right now now the the man or woman who's got problems addiction uh trauma etc talk therapy could be effective i'm i have no opinion on that other than that sometimes it works uh you maybe not who knows right but i know a psychopaths it never works it just makes them better at what they do yeah uh what has your dealing been with psychopaths in in one way or another any particular

crimes come to mind that that you've been up well Sure, sure. I've documented this in my professional memoir, the last lawman, which is coming out in June of 2026. In Pasadena, California, we had a career criminal, a one-man crime wave, and some people like to talk about white-collar crime. Well, crime is just crime bill. This man was a mortgage broker who would boast of having the highest rate of first month default of any mortgage broker. Los Angeles County. He thought that was cute and funny. Men like him brought this nation to its knees, economic knees in 2008, 2009. Anyway, he had a victim that he had robbed, and then later he raped her. And then I arrested him along with police officers on the rape. And in the county jail, he tried to hire the Mexican mafia to kill his victim and her children. Wow. He had several felonies prior to that, and lots of drunk driving charges and never did more than five or six hours in jail. He was a one-man crime wave.

That's an example of a psychopath. No conscience of any kind. He's out now living on the public dime and attending UC Irvine. Often when I've talked to police officers, they do discuss that it seems like about 90% of the crime is done by 10% of the perps. Would you say that's about right? That's about correct for property crimes. That's about right, yeah. What about when it comes to the really intense, the big personal crimes, the rapes, the murders?

That's one percent. That's the apex level predator, as some would say. That's the very tip-top of the criminality pyramid. serial arsonists, serial rapists, serial killers, MDSOs, many, many arsonists are MDSOs. MDSO stands for mentally disordered sex offender. People don't associate arson with rape, but the MDSO arsonist derives erotic gratification from the fires that they set, from the fires that other people set, from watching the response to the fires, things like that.

That's incredibly thrilling to them. That's like porn hub for them. Going back to the story, which we had just mentioned briefly here, the push for Logan's law, which would be a federal law, I guess, over, you know, dealing with repeat offenders since what you have talked about is it's so many of the worst of our crimes are dealing with repeat offenders. Is that something that would be appropriate on a nationwide basis, in your opinion? Well, it's probably bloody necessary. We have too many local localities where the criminal class has equity in the ruling party, like here in California.

The criminal class has equity in Sacramento. And I will say that our professional politicians travel around with men like me with machine guns to protect them from their constituents. Kamala Harris is flying all over this country with a six-man squad of California. highway patrol officers protecting her on the public dime, even though she is no longer a California state official. She wouldn't have it any other way. Somebody might harvest her and her family. Nils, let's just break it down because politics is connected with our crime wave.

I don't think there's any way of doing it, the response to it. Is the worm turning, so to speak, and we're at the point where even in the, you know, the left-wing states such as Oregon, Washington, California, and others, that the residents are rising up and demanding that, hey, they want their communities to be safe too, and it really is time. In other words, we're going to, we always tend to lurch back and forth on crime fighting. You know, we get really harsh, and then we back off because then we think we can talk our way out of problems. But you think is it time?

There's no institutional memory in our stupid political media bill. Just 30 years ago, they passed the three-streaks law in California after the polyclass murder. And immediately liberals within our stupid political media here in California started trying to deteriorate that law and characterize it as racist and unfair and that sort of thing. Well, same thing happened here in Oregon, too, with Measure 10, or Measure... Actually, I forget which measure was, but there was a measure about essentially for the career criminal for the three-stress. Greg's kind of law. And yeah, every time they start weakening it immediately, every time. Well, okay, so unless and until we pass ballot reforms like voter ID, ID to register, ID to

vote, that sort of thing. We can't trust the elections we hold at the local county or national level in blue states. It's my belief that they're stuffing the ballot box here in California and have been for more than 20 years. just read a story This isn't a 70-30 state This is a 51-48 state I don't know if you saw that story coming out of Maine the other day

But apparently there was an Amazon delivery And there were a bunch of ballots For the mail-in ballot That I got ended up At mail-in election They ended up getting delivered to someone's Amazon reception And I thought that

Well, of course Why not? I mean that's a great way To manage elections bill Think about it And who always fights against meaningful reforms. Yeah, we know that's the context of it. Who's benefiting from it? They're the ones who are going to fight these reforms. Indeed. Hey, Nils, I really appreciate it coming on here. So anyway, Logan's law might be something to be looking at it a bunch more. And if someone wanted to

hire you, what would they do? Because like I said, you'll investigate anybody anywhere around the entire world, not just in California. Well, I'm naturally in the phone book. I'm on Twitter, on X, formerly Twitter, at Detective Niels. If they're just entertained by the entire prospect, they could look for my book, The Last Lawman, coming out in June of 2026 by Post Hill Press, and I hope to be on your show again to introduce it, Bill. I can't wait. By the way, could I sign up for it right now and get a, like a pre-order type thing?

It isn't ready for that yet, but I'll have somebody alert you when it is. All right, great, because I'd be happy to get you back on. thank you so much for the take on it. And happy sleuthing there in the L.A. area. All right. You stay safe, young man, and watch your lane. I certainly will. Nils Gravilius, private investigator. 28 after 8, this is the Bill Myers Show. Access your stored items in Talk 1063, KMED. This is News Talk 1063, KMED.

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Yeah, you hear the two-terms. Kind of used interchangeably. but they're both problem people, okay? There's no doubt about that. But I'll tell you, I'll try to touch on this. And remember, I am not a psychiatrist or anything like that. But it's usually about the emotion. Psychopaths tend to be very calculated and they manipulate people.

But the thing is, they absolutely lack true emotional connections. They just don't. Just no emotional connections, but they may fake it or be able to fake it. That's part of it. It's about the manipulative process. Now, sociopaths kind of, how do I put it this way? Short attention. No, impulsive.

Impulsive may be a way of a shorthand way of looking at it. Sociopaths very impulsive. And they may have emotional attachments unlike the sociopath, or unlike the psychopath, rather, unlike the psychopath, rather. But the attachments that a sociopath has are, you know, kind of shallow. I hope that understandable, or it helps a little bit, okay? But we'll talk more about that if you want. It is 832.

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Let me go to V. Hello, V. How are you doing this morning? Morning, morning. Now, D, or V, rather, I am playing the theme from Route 66, which I don't know if you knew this, but it premiered on CBS today in 1960. Holy moly, 65 years ago.

First episode of Route 66 took its name from the Tulane. highway running from Chicago to L.A., right, and completed in the late Depression. Big major route across American Southwest. The program had a pretty simple premise, a couple of two young men's, young men, rather, Buzz Murdoch, George Mahars, and Todd Stiles, Martin Milner. And they drove across the country in an inherited Corvette Chevy. Chevy was one of the big sponsors doing odd.

And they were looking for adventure and getting odd jobs and looking for the girls and all the rest of it. Buzz and Todd were really on a journey in search of themselves, according to the show's creators. So, needless to say, Route 66 was different from every other show on TV at that time, V. For one thing, it was shot on location instead of in a studio. By the time it was all over in 1964 and its run was up, how many states did Route 66 film in? Was it A, 5? Was it B, 8? Was it C, 10?

Was it D, 15, or was it E, 25 states? How many states did Route 66 go through? I'll say five, Bill. You say five. I'm scared of half. I'm sorry, it's more than five. I know that. All right.

Thanks. All right. Let's even go to Tom. Hello, Tom. You're on here. Welcome. Hi, I should know this, but I worked at a town on Route 66. Okay, well, it was 8, 10, 15, or 25.

How many states did Route 66 end up filming in over the years? I'm just going to guess eight. You're going to say eight. Was it eight? Nope. Nope. It's not that either. I'm sorry.

I hit the wrong button. I wanted to make you a winner, Tom. I was pulling for you, but no, it's more than eight. Let me go to Walter. Hey, Walter. How you doing? Pretty good. Ten.

15 or 25. How many states did Route 66 ultimately film in? 15. 15. You're just going up the deal. No. Sorry. So we're at either 10 or 25. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome. This is Dan. Dan. 10 states were 25 states. How many states did Route 66 film in? 25. 25. Yeah. The show's cast and crew at the end of it had traveled from Maine to Florida, from L.A. to Toronto. they taped 116 episodes in 25 states. And the real Route 66 is probably the most famous

when John Steinbeck called it the Mother wrote in his book The Grape of Raths. Of course, Nat King Cole's version of Get Your Kicks on Route 66, still familiar. And in 1993, they had a peppier... I don't know if you remember this one, but there was a pepier, less gritty remake of the show. In fact, about the only thing they had in common

was the Corvette, but it went off to the air after a few episodes. It must have really sucked. That's why I didn't know about it. Anyway, yeah, you couldn't beat the original. Hang on, my friend, off the Dider-62 with you. It will have another one of those in a day or two. 20 before 9, this is the Bill Myers Show.

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We will have some open for phone time. About 8, 9, 10 minutes or so. Just hold your horses. We'll get right to you, though. I know it's pebble in your shoe Tuesday. People are going, hey, I've got to get it in. I got something that's bugging me. Right.

I've got a thing. But right now it is, at this point, it is open for business, open for business. And we have Lisa Kelly. Lisa McLeese Kelly once again and network in action. We haven't talked to you for what, about a month, month and a half. I was gone for a while. Yeah, where were you? I was in Europe.

Oh, that's a nice place to be. What's it like in summertime there, huh? Well, it wasn't quite summertime, but it's at the end of the season. It was very nice, and I got to see my grandchildren, and that's why I go. Oh, okay. Well, that's great to know. Tell us a little bit about network and action, and it's kind of a reintroduction at this point. Okay.

So network and action are three groups that we have. We have one in Medford, another one in Medford that's Christian-based only, and one in Grants Pass. And it's where small business owners get together once a month. We learn together. We grow. And I do a little bit of coaching with them. And they do some networking. And they build some deep relationships.

Yeah. And the deep relationships ultimately are about increasing your business effectiveness too. Yeah. So it's about growing your business, but it's about growing as a person and a business owner as well. Because, you know, being a business owner is very lonely. So you need peers to help you with things that you never even knew that you needed. Yeah, you would talk to me once about a stat that entrepreneurs sometimes even

take their own life because they just get so frustrated or maybe like, it's only me and nobody understands. Yeah, we have a high rate of suicide for entrepreneurs because we're trying to do everything, right? So you're a technician at an automotive shop and then you open up your own automotive shop and now you're a bookkeeper, a manager, a compliance, your HR, you're, you know, you're having to deal with licenses. I mean, it's crazy. You go from knowing what you're doing to, oh, my gosh, what did I get myself into? Exactly.

I get that. And that's what network and action is about to sort of ease that, those challenges and work through it and make connections. And by the way, you don't look, you don't look like that kind of stress at all. So I just want to let you know. Thank you. There are some days that I'm kind of there. No, but we'll just, well, who did you bring in today? I brought in Michelle Milicki from Rogue Organizer and Prince Sisson, who's a financial advisor.

Okay, so Michelle, why don't you step up to the microphone and just, we'll just kind of go in. Tell us a little bit about Rogue Organizer. Something tells me that I can use you, but if you look at the studio here, but what's your business all about, huh? I'm a professional in-home organizer, so I help people with their home offices. if they're sharing a bedroom with a home office or an art room. I help seniors downsize if they have a house full of things and they need to move to maybe senior living or assisted living or maybe they're trying to move in with a family member.

How do you approach organizing for the most part? How do you do this? Because like I said, boy, if you were looking at my garage, I need you in the garage. Do you organize garages? I absolutely organize garages. Yes, I help you park your car in your garage again. I don't think I've ever parked my car in the garage.

I help people by helping them make the decisions. They get decision fatigue and they need to know where their things can go. That hangs up a lot of people. And I've already done all the research and I have a lot of answers for them. And if I don't have the answers, I help them get them. Okay, very good. What has networked action, networking and action done for you? How has it helped you out?

I like to partner with the community when I'm donating my client's items. And Lisa has helped me build relationships with a lot of non-for-profits in the community. with her vetting me and they know that I am in network with network in action they trust me. Yeah. When you go, when you get together with your fellows in network and action, are you trying to organize their lives too? Absolutely. Everybody I'm talking to, spread in the word, get rid of your stuff. You know, that is and yet I suffer from that. You know, I could use this someday. Do you deal a lot with that? Absolutely. Everyone could deal with it on every level. Every time I go home from somebody's house, I'm organizing my stuff more

because they just want to get rid of it. Oh, I'm glad to hear that. So you are into letting go of the stuff, aren't you? Absolutely. All right, so rogue disposal likes you, huh? Absolutely. All right, glad to know. How did people get in touch and find you? Rogueorganizer.com. Okay. That's my website. All right, rogue organizer.com. Yes. Okay, great. And I know we're kind of doing a little round robin here at this point. Nice talking with you, Michelle. And we have, we have Brent Sisson, Brent Sisson here. And you are a certified financial planner. What's the name of your, of your business here? Yeah. So I work with a local firm here called D.A. Davidson. We're based in, been primarily based in Northwest for every 90 years,

but kind of slowly growing nationwide as well. How do they get in touch with you? How do folks get in touch? Yeah, best ways to call or text me at 541-608-4-381 and, you know, have a conversation just about, you whatever, wherever they're at in life financially. How long have you been doing it? Yeah. So interestingly enough, I was a pastor for about 15 years. And in that time, I had been working in the Dave Ramsey world as a leading financial peace university classes.

And so I've been doing that for a long time and then changed careers about five years ago over to doing what I do now. You know, that's so funny because I thought there was a vibe coming off you. I'm just going to tell you that. Are you trying to say I have a radio face? No, no, no. I'm talking about the vibe of a pastor. So in some cases, then, you are, in essence, then, trying to, well, bring the financial flock, I guess, to a better outcome. Sure, yeah. I mean, at the end of the day, it's about, you know, helping people in my job.

You know, my biggest goal is to help people find peace in what they're looking to accomplish and really, and get, on a plan, you know. Biggest mistake that most people make when it comes to financial. I mean, going back to, yeah, totally, going back to it, I think the biggest thing is just the lack of a plan. You know, so many people, I call it whack-a-mole finances where you've got stuff all over doing different things and there's no, like the arrows are not pointing in the same direction.

And my job is to come along the side in a sense, you know, help organize, I mean, even going to when the shell does, help organize people into a plan long term. So, yeah, Michelle is working on organizing the things. You're talking about organizing the assets. Yeah, sure, absolutely. You know, that sort of thing. And inflation, even though people are talking as if the inflation has been vanquished, price of gold and silver, things like that would seem to be indicating otherwise that there's a little concern.

What could be done in these days to work on the inflation issue? Because even though the official rate of inflation is down, This is just my opinion there. CPI is down, but when you're looking at the overall cost of living, I can't see is necessarily there. Federal government always tends to cook those books a little bit. What do you think, huh? Yeah, totally. I mean, like I was speaking with the client yesterday, and he was just looking at buying a brand new truck, you know, which right now, the space he's looking at 70 to 80,000.

He's like, man, I remember when it was 25,000 to buy a brand new truck. But, I mean, so it me, it affects everyone. I mean, I think the biggest thing just personally is having, if possible, having flexibility in your budget to absorb the cost of that. Avoiding debt is a great way to do that because, I mean, debt's an asset to your income. And so you want to keep that, again, that flexibility. And by getting rid of debt, help absorbs that. From an investment perspective, I think the biggest things I see is, you know, people like being incredibly conservative with their stuff. And that may make sense.

But a lot of times, you know, it can be helpful. to diversify a lot of that to help, you know, outpace the inflation in some areas of what, you know, you've been blessed with. Yeah, you know, when you're being ultra-conservative in a Super Bowl market, a lot of people probably missed out then. Yeah, exactly. Like, I mean, you know, if you were to look at the market over the past, you know, three years specifically since 2022, I mean, it's been a home in. And, you know, so for a lot of people, too, It's interesting because you'll see some people say, hey, let's go more aggressive. And I'm like, well, let's hold the vote on that a little bit because that we might need to, you know, we don't know when the next downturn is.

On the flip side, you know, you get people that are already down there and they're like, well, let's, you know, let's just leave it as is and kind of I don't want to lose it. And that can be, you know, are not devastating, but really difficult to a financial plan over a long time. And how can people get a hold of you again? Yeah. So the best ways to call or text me at 541-608-4-8-4-8-1. How has networked in action helped you? Oh, it's been fantastic. I love the community has been, you know, just the, I think the community, the fellowship

together has been a blessing, but then also, too, just from a business perspective, having my name out there and making connections with people's been awesome. All right. Great. Great meeting you, too. Yeah, thank you. And the best to you. Brent Sisson once again.

And Lisa, before you all take off, I appreciate you coming in on Open for Business because we always like to keep people in the community apprised of these kind of things. To find out more about you and network in action, best place to go. S-O-networking.com. All right, s-o-networking.com. And interesting times that we find ourselves seeing a lot of drama, a lot of things going on in the news. We're here to keep the businesses humming. That's right.

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This is what I keep thinking. We now have no neighborhood swimming pools where kids can easily run. ride their bikes to swim inexpensively in summer because they built Rogue X outside of town. Now they want to build a monstrosity in town that will benefit a small percentage of the population while making life less enjoyable and more expensive for many. Make it make sense is what Lynn says. Lynn, I appreciate your writing. The email bill at Billmyershow.com. We'll continue to talk about that tomorrow. We get a chance to vote on the tax increase

or the ability to do the tax increase. Hello, Steve. How are you doing? Welcome. I'm doing good, Bill. Hey, I got about a minute and a half. Can you make a good point in that time? Real quickly, we live in an arms race of us against us, basically, on many scales.

In terms of farming, the biggest issues are water availability and the cost of electricity, which goes into all the other inputs for farming. terms of fertilizer and equipment and everything. AI is a huge user of electricity, so the more we push to AI, the more expensive everything else becomes, because it's costing us for that input.

And there are some solutions, but they're far off. I mean, for electricity, fusion is what the proponents claim. And for computing, it's room temperature semiconductors. Oh, semiconductors that don't need massive cooling and electricity for cooling, in other words. Well, it's not semiconductors, it's the material that doesn't have any resistance, basically.

Oh, is that, you know, I have read something that graphene is being bandied about as a possibility. Well, yeah, just like fusion reactors are being banned. bandied about. In the meantime, we all have to survive because we don't have that stuff. That's why electricity rates are going up. And water is just a huge issue for computing because they have to cool all those chips and all those systems. Yeah, they're jumping out ahead of society right now. We're going to say on that story, Steve. I appreciate it. The email of Billmyershow.com. You'll talk more on Wheels Up Wednesday. you then.

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