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Episode Date: October 9, 2025

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The Bill Meyer Show podcast is sponsored by Klauser Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausordrilling.com. Here's Bill Meyer. 11 minutes after seven, glad you are here. This is Conspiracy Theory Thursday, and I always enjoy it when we can have someone that is talking about, maybe not just conspiracy theory, but just evidence of conspiracy going on. But he's here to help you battle your way out of it, too.

Chris Hoare joins me. He is a disaster response in telecom national security spokesperson for SAT-123, S-A-T-1-2-3, seasoned entrepreneur, career-spanning tech, satellite communication, emerging technology. From the training floors in London to early digital marketing in the United States, he's helping build and support businesses with practical, reliable communication. So we are all good with that. And joining us from England this morning. How are you doing this morning, Chris?

Well, it's afternoon for you. Isn't that right? Welcome, sir. Yes, thanks for having me on, Bill. Appreciate you getting me on the show today. Hank. Tell us a little bit about, you know, what you actually do in your business, because it seems like if I want a super secret satellite phone, I go to you, right?

Yeah, look, satellite phones have been around for about 30 years now, but they've typically been the purview of the wealthy and privilege. When they first came out, they would cost $5,000, or more, and you're paying $30 a minute and so on. So only the rich could afford them. But the prices have come down over the years, and we've been doing this for 20 years, Bill. And today you can get a satellite phone for free with activation.

You pay just about 80, 90 bucks a month, and you get 100, 150 minutes and something like that. But satellite phones are fantastic because they do not rely on cell powers. They work absolutely anywhere on Earth. And Bill, only 7% of the country is covered by cell service on a good day when everything's working. So most of the country does not actually have. cell service. This is the same reason that the U.S. military and first responders throughout the country use satellite phones because they know wherever they need to go or there's a disaster

going on. Power and cell phone service is not going to be an option. Now, what about the actual satellite phone network? I've always wanted to ask somebody who's involved in this. Does it end up going through the same nationwide network as the cell networks? Because we know right now that the federal government through AT&T and the various other digital choke points around the United States of America, they're basically plugging the, you know, their fountain there for the surveillance state. Is that something which is different when you have a satellite phone, or if you're maybe doing a satellite phone to satellite phone? I'm talking about privacy, encryption, things like that, that kind of stuff. Yeah, no, it's a great point. You're

absolutely right. You know, if you're using a cell phone, first of all, it's watching you, it's listening to you. It's recording. It's storing all that data. It's tracking you everywhere you go, and it's archiving it, just in case the authorities want to see what you were up to last week or last month or what have you. The satellite phones are very different from that. If you're talking about

a satellite phone to satellite phone call, it does not go anywhere near the ground-based infrastructure used by the cell phone companies. It's completely independent network. And the satellite phone itself, it doesn't require cell towers because it talks directly to the satellite.

So you're literally going from one cell phone to a satellite, then down to another satellite bomb. And that gives you definitely a vastly increased level of privacy and security. Yeah. Now, if you end up calling somebody in the regular cellular network, well, then naturally you're taking your chances with that kind of thing, right? Just naturally. Yeah, you know, you're going to go from your cell phone to a satellite, then back down to a cell tower, and it's going to connect you that way. But if you want to stay kind of off the grid, then certainly you and your friends and organization and family can all have satellite phones and you can communicate with, again, much more privacy and security without all of the tracking that every single cell phone comes. You know, Chris, it's kind of funny.

I was thinking back when cell phones first came out, what, 30, 35, 40 years ago, you first started really seeing them come out. And you would have the elite saying, I'm calling you, Chris, from my cell phone. I'm calling from the car. kind of thing and we were supposed to be really impressed and it's like everyone's got one now the only way you can impress someone is to say I am calling from my satellite phone you know and then ooh and then a satellite phone on my satellite internet because I think you're doing that too of the Starlink too is also part of what you're offering right yeah we've been that's correct yeah there are many satellite internet services Starlink is one of them began it's another there are many

of those. But yeah, we represent all of those. Essentially, it's that one, two, three.com. What we do is we provide you with alternative communications. Some people have that for backup in case the cell networks go down, the power goes down. And other people just have it as a matter of practicality. Because look, a lot of people have second homes or homes out in the country where they go hunting, fishing, so on. And there is no option for cell service or landlines or anything like that. So a satellite phone would be the only option. I wanted to have your comment here. I noticed that as part of our partial government shutdown, that the CISA agency, the cybersecurity and infrastructure

security agency, has also been furloughed at that time. Was that, is that something to be of any concern when you hear about the cybersecurity folks being said, okay, you can come back when we get the money again. What do you think? It's something we should all be very concerned about. It's like, look, worldwide, in total, millions and millions of cyber attacks on companies on individuals, on governments all around the world. This is an ongoing situation that's only getting worse, though, I'm afraid.

And CISA is definitely one of the first lines of defense here in the U.S. to basically monitor cyber attack activity and then also to alert and assist, whether it's local, state, or federal government or corporations, in fighting back. And so that's a real, you know, a real critical part of the front line of defense. And cyber warfare is an ongoing situation. Look, if you want to attack a country, the cheapest and easiest way to do it, the lowest-hanging fruit is to attack their infrastructure.

And these days, our infrastructure runs completely, you know, on the digital platform using the Internet to connect itself and using server farms. And all of those things are under attack constantly from nation-state actors, such as China, North Korea, Russia, Iran, who are dedicated to disrupting this country and stealing all of our data. So maybe a little pound-wise, well, petty-wise, pound foolish then, for the time to shut down in a particular agency. All right. You're giving me great confidence right now.

Yeah, no, look, it's one thing that should never be taken offline. You know, we are vulnerable at the moment, much more so than ever. And believe me, our enemies are very much aware of that. We've seen vastly increased scanning activity since the shutdown. These guys pay attention to U.S. politics because they're always looking for a way in. And when we're weaker, they are far more prone to attack. They're going to be a lot more successful. Chris Horr once again, and he's a disaster response telecom security guy,

spokesperson for SAT, 2, 3. I'll put that information up here. I also wanted to ask you about another interesting story, and this had to do with a SIM server farm that had been there. busted up. I think it was over New Jersey. A couple of weeks ago, the story just kind of came up and then disappeared. And this was going on around the United Nations, and it appeared to be Secret Service ended up breaking that up. Could you explain that and why that was important? And I'm surprised why that story just kind of vanished, because I thought it was sort of a big deal.

Yeah, no, I appreciate you bringing it up. This is something I'd be talking about a lot in the last 10 days. What we had essentially was an organization had put together a network of over 300 SIM servers. And these are servers that can run anything from a couple up to hundreds of SIM cards at one time. And when you connect 300 of those servers, you can actually flood a cell phone network and essentially take it offline. It's like with the amount of servers they had and the amount of SIM cards they had, they could generate up to 30 million text messages, minute on the network where they were located. And that literally floods, the cell towers, the backhaul, the switches, the control planes, so that they will then start rejecting all calls and all text messages.

It's the same, they call this a denial of service attack. Yeah. It's prohibited denial of service attack. And we used to seeing that with websites, you know, that's been going on the long time. But this is kind of new and certainly you should be concerning because if you can do this in one area, And luckily, this didn't happen because the Secret Service moved quickly. But if you can do it in New York or around the UN building, you can do it anywhere. And if this were a coordinated attack across the country, that could cause absolute chaos.

And, you know, we need to remember that whilst we might feel safe in our cities or our homes, wherever we live in this country, we are as vulnerable as anyone else to these kind of things. And recently, just in the last few months, we saw the entire country of Spain taken offline by what I think. certainly believed was a cyber attack. Well, yeah, they're claiming it wasn't a cyber attack, though, that it ended up being what, they weren't able to get all the renewable energy pulling in the same frequency. That sounded a little flaky, I thought, but, you know. Yeah, look, I mean, I don't have any proof except for what is going on every single day around

the world. You know, it seemed highly unlikely that this story that was put out by the Spanish, all the authorities was legitimate. You know, a lot, look, nobody wants to admit they've been hacked and nobody wants to admit they've come under attack and they've fallen to that attack. But, you know, the chances of one control switch taking down a whole country, you know, seem far stretched to me. But, look, even if they're right, we have seen the last two years a huge increase in the

amount of cyber attacks on our infrastructure, including the power grid, including water supplies including air traffic control and uh we need to be paying attention to that chris i don't know this is something you could comment on philosophically but we've always been told uh we the sheep so to speak have been a condition that everything has to go into the into the cloud we want to do paperless billing we don't want paper and checks going because money and checks course that can end up going to terrorists or bad guys doing strange things but But I get the impression that, you know, from the cybersecurity angle of things, that there's probably more money to steal with the online world and in the cloud than there would be, you know, in the physical, it would be a lot more difficult in the physical. I wonder if we've kind of convinced ourselves to, you know, to go to a less secure way of conducting business.

Any thoughts of that? I've been kind of curious about that. Yeah, because look, I mean, let's face it, if you want to rob a bank in Midtown, Manhattan, you have to be in Midtown, Manhattan. That's, you know, in the old days, right? But today, you can be sitting in Shenzhen, in China, and you can all concentrate the attack on the U.S. financial system in the heart of Manhattan and steal billions and billions of dollars, you know, or take down systems that control our financial networks without leaving your couch. You know, that's the reality of it. And, you know, this will be fine if we'd paid more attention to cybersecurity, if we put more money of resources and development into securing the Internet. But at this point, Bill, the Internet's over 50 years old.

And like anything that's 50 years old, people know what the problems are, what the flaws are, and how to get around things. If you think of a 50-year-old car, it's pretty easy to steal. Sure. You know, cars today are very different. And so we haven't kept up with the reality of the digital security world, unfortunately. Is there a way to recode the protocol of the Internet to make that more secure? Or is it something that would be incredibly difficult to keep legacy systems going? I mean, given the fact that with the Internet itself is here to stay,

and it really is just a connected group of servers around the world and fiber, there are always to secure data. But what we see, you know, unfortunately, the biggest problem is that we see people have all their eggs in one basket. You know, companies will use one data center or one company to host all their data. And if that company goes offline, so does their data. that company's data gets, you know, that data set it gets hacked and the shut down, then all the companies that rely on it get shut down, too.

We need to be moving much more towards a distributed system, and there are companies out there who are working on that. We can also use the blockchain for added security, but these things are minimal compared to the way that most governments and most organizations that companies store their data. So I think it's, you know, the technology is out there, but, you know, it's not mandated that people do this. And if you look at the power grid and how vulnerable it is and the financial system,

how vulnerable that is, you know, we should be paying more attention, and there should be legislation that requires increased that at a level of security to all of our infrastructure here in the country, in my opinion. That's very interesting. You know, you talked about distributed servers, and I'm kind of wondering, and I'm not a high-tech. Well, I mean, I read about high-tech, but I'm not a techie like yourself, let's say. Is that almost the equivalent of – I'm going to use an analogy.

I don't know if this is appropriate or not when you say distributed. You know how you have a computer server that has a raid, you know, a raid drive, which you have multiple drives that can be hot swapped out if one drive goes bad and then you pull it out. Is that kind of the way, you know, the infrastructure? So that way it's – everything's not just on one hard drive, so to speak. I know I'm using an old term, but, you know, I'm just wondering if that's what you're talking about when you talk about distributed storage around the country? Yeah, I mean, it's similar.

You know, what I'm suggesting is there are companies that allow you to host your data simultaneously at multiple data centers owned by different companies, even in different countries, so that if one goes down, the other one is already, you know, up and running. Oh, okay. So you talk about full copies, full duplicates then of your info. Look at, yeah. Even going as far as there are companies that I'm working with that are then also storing that data on the blockchain so that if all the server farms go down, all the data centers go down, the data can then be retrieved from the blockchain and put back up onto a different, you know, a different data center. So these servers are a different data center. But you know how it works, though? Nobody will really toughen this stuff up until they lose everything, right? Yeah. No, that's the thing. It's like you don't buy the insurance.

until your house is burned down. Exactly. Exactly. Hey, what will you find when you had to sat one, two, three? I'll put the information up on this. It's an interesting, it's like, boy, I'll tell you, if I wanted to go out in the middle of the desert someplace and get communicated, boy, you can get me set up.

You can hook the brother up, you know? That's absolutely right. Yeah, you'll find satellite communications such as satellite phone, satellite internet units. And then we also, of course, have portable solar power generators, Faraday bags in cases to protect your data from being stolen while it's literally in your phone's in your pocket

all of these kind of things. You know, we've been in the business over 20 years and it's at 1,2,3.com. We offer not just free satellite phones when you activate with us, but free Starlink units when you activate with us. Okay. Again, we think that this kind of technology

should be available to all American families, not just the wealthy. Yeah. Do you think it's one of those things where the government, our federal government, wouldn't necessarily like us all on satellite phones? Well, probably not, you know, because it's, again, it's much harder to track you. You know, if you have a cell phone in your pocket, the government can tell where you are at all

times, where you've been, where you're going, and they can listen in, and they can watch you, they can activate your camera and so on. But the sat phones don't have, first of all, they don't have cameras in them, so you don't have any of that. They also can't be tracked unless you call 50-square-mile radius, you know, tracking. that's the closest you could possibly track a satellite phone, too. And this is why these are the same exact systems. The Oridium Network is what is used by the U.S. military has been for over 30 years.

And you can have that technology, too. So, yeah, they probably wouldn't like it, Bill, but you're still legally allowed to own them. So we'll keep giving them all away with activation proof on as we can. Yeah, well, they want gun control, and next it would be phone control. Yikes, but hey, fight back while you can. Chris, I appreciate it. Great talk on the cybersecurity issue there. And by the way, a final question I'd have for you, that SimFarm thing, that was about essentially faking up like there were hundreds of thousands of cell phones all try to do the same thing at once, right?

That's what that thing that the Secret Service broke up was all about, right? I just want to make sure I understood that correctly. Yeah, they were literally kind of creating a fake network of people who were all trying to send text messages at the same time. And look, this wasn't set up by a couple of guys with a grudge against the U.N. This was set up by, you know, a well-funded organization. You know, you can't just walk into a T-Mobile store and buy 100,000 SIM cards, you know. So you need to have a relationship with a carrier. So this was a well-organized effort.

It was a well-funded effort. And in my mind, this is probably a dry run to see how, you know, what happened when they set this up with a precursor to doing this around the country. but, you know, just an opinion, but we've got to, we've got to take these things into account. Chris Horr, once again, at Security Spokesperson for Sat 1, 2,3. Good talk. Thanks for being on the show today. Be well. You, Bill. Thanks, Bill. Cheers. Thank you. 729 at KMED. One of each K4 VIN, 202, 982 MSRP 24-185.

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this Friday through Sunday at Coastal. Hi, I'm a mom from Orleans, and I'm on 106.7 KMED. It is 736. This is an hour of the accents. I was earlier talking with a gentleman from England, and now another great

accent, I think my favorite accent, that's the Australian accent, and that would be belonging to Andrew Coppin. He is the CEO of Ranch Bot, and you're hanging out, what, South Texas is where you and your company are located, Andrew? Welcome. Yeah, good-a-bill.

Good morning. Yeah, I'm now an Aussie living in Fort Worth, in Texas. Very good. And what I was reading about, and you're one of the people that was available to discuss this, has to do with cattle. And, gosh, we just came out of coastal farm and ranch. Of course, they do ranching and cattle, doing all sorts of other things. You're involved with this industry, too.

but what it's about is trying to help run the cattle ranches and the sheep ranches and all the rest of it at lower cost. And it's kind of like you have, it's almost like an electronic sheep dog. Would that be a way of calling the ranch bot system here? And then I want to get into the screw worm topic if you don't mind. Yeah, it's like a sheep dog, but you don't have to feed it. and, you know, it works 24-7-365. Yeah, we're remote monitoring and control companies that look after a lot of ranches around the country

providing updates to ranchers on water ecosystems. Have they got water? Are their pumps on? Are their pipes full as the water flowing? Have they got leaks? So they don't have to drive around and check things. And as a result of that, you know, obviously we've got a lot of interaction with ranches in southern Texas

and across New Mexico. in Arizona, and at the moment, of course, they're all, you know, rejoicing high cattle prices, but concerned about New World Screw-on potential. Yeah, well, the challenge is, yeah, they're rejoicing high cattle prices, but, you know, the, well, the solution to high prices is high prices, solution to low prices is low prices, unfortunately. You're kind of boom and bust here, I would imagine. I will talk with folks that raise cattle here in Southern Oregon, and they're talking

about how difficult it is to make that that side of farming and ranching pencil because of the labor and the you know having to hire a lot of people there's a lot of hands on you're given the inoculations you're doing all these other things and it sounds like this is what you're working with your company to to enable them i guess fewer people to be able to run run more cattle on the farm would that be fair yes uh yeah well i've never um we look after about 12 thousand ranchers and I've never met one with time on their hands and I've never met one with a bottom on the to-do list, you know, ranching, you know, that ranches get up before dawn and go to sleep well after it dark. It's just one of those lifestyle jobs. So is it, is it one of

those things with, if I had my ranch bot ad or what app or whatever it is, it says, hey, you know, these cows got through the fence, you better get someone on it, that kind of thing. Is it that granular? Is curious? Yeah, they can tell if the cattle are drinking or the, they're not drinking, they can tell if the pumps are on or off, and most importantly, they can know if there's leaks in their water ecosystem. Oh, okay. If it's raining and what the weather's doing, a whole bunch of different things, but it's all about saving ranch's time and money.

Yeah. Could you tell me a bit, though, I wanted to shift now to the news, which got me kind of amazed here. You know, when you hear the flesh-eating screw-worm term, it doesn't sound particularly appetizing, right? But I love beef. So what kind of a threat is this to the United States cattle supply? Because they're making a lot of noise about this down around your neighborhood, you know, South Texas and a Mexican board. Yes, sir.

Well, I mean, there's no threat to us eating beef. That's one thing, sure. So we don't need to worry about that. Okay. But, you know, obviously what has happened is, you know, we've had to shut the border for cattle coming in from Mexico. In a typical year, we import about a million head of cattle from Mexico. Mexico into the US. So all of that supply has been cut off because the screw worm is, you know,

is in southern Mexico and there's concerns about importing it into the US. So we've shut the border down there and now, you know, we're, obviously there's a lot of work and vigilance going on to try and prevent screw worm crossing the border. But obviously when you're talking about a fly that they're born, I mean, that's challenging to be able to, you know, shut it off. Unfortunately, there's no wall that's going to stop an insect. flying or being bought in through the wind. So lots of good work doing to try and keep an eye on it, to make sure it's not here, to prevent it from coming into the U.S. cattle herd.

Of course, if it does, we're going to have to manage it carefully, and we're probably a couple of years away from having a full-time solution of eradicating it in entirety. All right. What does the screw worm? It's a fly. Is it like a big house fly? What does a screw worm look like? It's curious.

Yeah, I mean, it's a fly. and it plants its larvae into animals and then the larvae, you know, drill into the why it's called screw room is they drill into the flesh of the animal and infect that animal, which ultimately leads to, you know, poor health and of that beast. So, you know, it's not a particularly friendly little bug, but the best way that we've cured and how the US cured it in the past was to release hundreds of millions of infertile flies and effectively breed them out of existence.

Unfortunately, the facility to do that is, whilst it's been funded by the federal government, it hasn't been built yet, and it's probably a few years away. So in the short term, what we have to do is isolate cattle that get it and eradicate the screw worm, you know, on a case-by-case basis. Is there any kind of, I'm trying to think what would the term be, like a sheep or a cattle drench that could actually protect from a screw worm infestation or is it, is nothing hitting it right now? There's some great research going on across many of the, you know, esteem universities and establishments in conjunction with the USDA to look at vaccines and other things that would prevent screw worm and would shut it down quickly.

but unfortunately, like so many things in science, they take time to evolve and to check and to double check to make sure there's no unintended consequence. But certainly there's very smart people, a lot smarter than me, working on solutions for prevention. Obviously, prevention is better than cure and, you know, trying to find a way to bring this sort of nasty little bug to hail. Yeah, I was reading that a screw worm infestation can kill a cow some cases within a couple of weeks. That sounded incredible, but is that true? You can kill a cow in two weeks? Yeah, I mean, if it's left unchecked and the cow was not attended to,

it can be pretty aggressive in the scheme of the larvae expanding and growing, you know, whether it's cows or horses or dogs or anything, No animals are sort of particularly safe from the bug, but obviously the most concern is about the beef cattle herd because at a time when we've got, you know, all-time demand, and we've got the smallest herd we've had since the 1950s. Which is why, of course, the beef prices are very high right now, right? That's part of the reason why. So we don't need any less supply, you know, and the concern, I guess, is, you know, what if another

million head of cattle weren't available to be sold into the supply chain. You know, obviously it could have a further impact on raising prices. Whilst most people think that's unlikely, it can't be ruled out. Okay. Is there any way to treat it? Like, you can't give it an Ivermectin shot or something like that, you know, like for some diseases that might be on the hoof? As I said, they're trialing different solutions to it right now. But obviously, he's tracking around looking at millions of heads of cattle across the country to work out if they've got it or not to apply medications is expensive and time consuming.

So the preference is to just eradicate the fly altogether in the process that I mentioned earlier. But yes, look, everyone's looking at all possible angles to how do we prevent it? And if they've got it, how do we eradicate it fast and efficiently so that we're not bringing more costs and time burden upon ranches? Well, I'm glad to hear that. By the way, I'm talking with Andrew Koppan. He's the CEO of RanchBot. RanchBot, of course, is technology involved in monitoring what's going on in these big ranches.

By the way, is it only big ranches or do small ranches before we take off? I just got to be curious. How does it scale in your world? We have a lot of small ranches that people that aren't there every day that still need to keep an eye on the cattle drinkers and troughs, you know, Arvacare's drinking, and then obviously we work in big ranches, across the country, including in your beautiful part of the world in Oregon, where, you know, we look after, you know, median acre ranches that have got, you know, vast challenges about managing

water. Yeah, well, hey, water is worth fighting for. We know about that, for sure. And this is the final question. I'll put all your information up, Andrew, and I really appreciate this. But how tired are you of people asking you about Nicole Kidman just because of your Australian roots? Well, I think Keith Kevin's playing in Fort Worth

tonight, so I'm sure there'll be a decent crowd there for him but, yeah, no, I don't keep up with the social pages, but I'm sure they'll work out their differences in due course. Okay, so no one's been hassling you in Texas like, okay, you're from Australia, you tell me about Nicole, like she's your best friend or something like that.

No, we're not that close, so they're more inclined to ask me about Damien Brennan. know, the Saddle-Bronk riders and the Aussies in the rodeos these days. Ah, very good. Andrew, great talking with you, getting a chance to meet you. And I'm glad to know, though, that they are taking the screw-worm thing seriously. This is not like something where they're asleep on the job, in your opinion, overall. Absolutely. No, the best minds and everyone, all the ranches, USDA and government officials are all working to ensure that, you know,

we do everything we can to prevent this from becoming a major issue. And so, you know, we're all hopeful that that will be the case. CEO of Ranch Bot. That's Andrew Kopp and Andrew Good Talk. Thanks for being on the show this morning. I appreciate it greatly, okay? Thanks so much. All right.

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That's 770 KM. Oh, I have to laugh, by the way. Taking your calls, sure, anything on your mind because it is Conspiracy Theory Thursday. Probably every day is these days, I guess. But Richard writes me, the email bill of Billmyershow.com. Bill, I heard you talking about the screw worm.

I thought that referred to what the Medford City Council, Mayor and others were doing to the citizens of Medford, but no, just a nasty bug, though pretty much the same thing. Richard, you make me laugh. I'm giving you an email of the day just because you made me laugh. Emails of the day, sponsored by Dr. Steve Nelson, Central Point Family Dentistry.com, rather, right next to Mazadlon Mexican restaurant. By the way, if you need a water pick, any kind of special toothpaste or brushes, and let's say medicated mouthwashes, all that kind of stuff, they have a little kiosk there at there. You don't even have to be a patient, just walk in, they'll sell it to you at their cost.

They want to make sure that you have healthy teeth, so they don't turn into teeth as they get lost. for the years. I don't want that, okay? Central Point Family Dentistry.com. 7705633. Dave, you have a theory about the shutdown, the partial shutdown of the gummen. What say you? Yeah, this is, David. I wouldn't say, this, back in August, I got an order to review my cases for a pardon. And now that the government shut down, the Office of Pardons is on furlough. Oh, so the Office of Pardons is not considered to be essential. Oh, it's too bad. That's right. So the Democrats probably wanted to slow down my pardon. And secondly, I have an answer to the question you asked last week. Is there any holy places? So I prayed on it,

and I asked that question. And Jesus told me, as a thought, that I need to build upon so that I can collect rainwater, and that this will kill the desert I live in by greening it. Okay. This is the conspiracy you've come up with today, right? Well, one's a conspiracy and one's an answer to your question. Oh, oh, oh, a sacred. My place is going to be a holy place because Jesus says, I'm going to build a pond in time. when this pond gathers the water from, you know, God letting it rain here and collecting the rainwater,

that this will be a healing, and it will green this desert I live in. Huh. Okay. So you will have the only official Christian land, right? And see... Well, I won't be the only one. Well, the one I was bringing this up about it is because, last week I was talking about how, or actually a few days ago, I was talking about how... Oh, but I won't need any permits. Okay, but Moniquea, Moniquea, the volcano in Hawaii. We have the folks that are native Hawaiians that are all bent out of shape, and those observatories have been up there 50, 60 years, right? And provide a lot of money for the economy, et cetera, and they're saying, well, these are our sacred lands.

And what has become irritating to me is that it seems that only so, called quote unquote scary air quote indigenous people can have sacred lands right see that's what i was getting at and why is it only uh only tribes and and native uh and native born hawaiians or you know culturally uh you know significant hawaiians have sacred land and everybody else is just an interloper somewhere it's like when do we get sacred land is what i want to know dave help me out So that's what my land is becoming sacred. Okay. Just that with Jesus' help, I'll get a pond build.

Yeah, I want to be able for us to have a Christian sacred land. It could be out there in the forest. And then we're able to say, hey, listen, you clowns, I want the BLM to shut down this section because we're doing our Christian ceremonies on this sacred land. How about that? And why can't we do that? Well, I'm not talking about shutting it down. Jesus wants me to grow.

Okay, all right, okay. No, I don't want to go off into your nice little fantasy land here. I want to talk about actionable stuff. We have everybody that they want their sacred land, and they want it locked away. Well, if they're going to play that game, let's have Christian land locked away. What say you? Well, what I say is, we open it. It's for our use.

It's already open, Dave. It's what I'm getting in here. It's like everybody else is saying, hey, this is our sacred land. We don't want observatories, and we don't want people on this hiking trail, you know, out in the BLLM. Let's declare that the Marble Nathouse is sacred land, and we have to shut it down. That is the sick. Now, see, there's the soundbite. Thank you, Dave.

7705-633. That's what I'm getting on. I'm only having a little fun with Dave at his expense. But anyway, hi, good morning. This is Bill. Who's this? Good morning. This is Kathy.

How are you? Hello, Kathy. Welcome to the show. Hello. So I'm from Hawaii. I had the lease on the restaurant at Pohokaloa that's on the road up to the observatory and been around for a while and talked to a lot of, had a lot of dear friends that actually worked on building the observatory. And I will tell you that in our entire time there, we rarely saw any, quote, unquote, native people going up there to pray, ever. And I'd love to see the money of who paid them to be up there protesting when that happened because it was ridiculous. But the way to stop them from closing it down or whatever is, well,

It's their ancient Hawaiian way to go up and pray. So you need to do it in the ancient Hawaiian way. You can walk up to there. You can be as sacred as you want, but you do it in your sacred way. In other words, you go all the way. You're not going to take your cell phones. You're not going to get in the Subaru and head up to the 13,800 square foot. You do everything the native.

way. Everything. Yes. Hmm. Yeah. So that was just my, because it's just ridiculous. And if you could have seen, and I know that people can do it because Polakala is 100,000 acres of training facility for the Army, and we would get groups from all over the world.

And the guys would be sitting there watching the Super Bowl. And these all studly built guys would come in and go, what time is it? I go, can have a glass of water, give them a glass of water. And then about I don't know. An hour and a half later, they're back, and they have run all with the 7,000 feet from Pawpola to the summit.

And they run down and go, can I have another glass of water? Pretty tough people, huh? I know it can be done. Yeah. Very good. You know, that's an interesting thing, but, you know, I get irritated at the spirited laydown. It's like all you have to do is say, well, we were native people. Well, we were all native people somewhere at some point in time.

And it just gets, it gets to be nonsensical after a while in which this, this is just an idea of, yeah, some people are just, well, it's like animal farms. Some people are just more important than others, I guess. Yeah, and it changed. I mean, that was, I've been here 30 years. So it changed in the, like, 90s, and it just got to where there was. was no give and take anymore. I mean, I used to sing with the Hawaiian chorus.

I took, you know, Hawaiian studies in my music career at university, and it's just not, it's not available anymore to Howley's. It's just not. The very fact that you bring up the term Howley's is concerning, because that, in essence, is a slur. It's a white slur, and it's just continued, it's considered very, very common, very commonly used there. to, yeah, when I was growing up, there was Kill Holiday Day.

And it was every Friday, and I became a very good runner to get from the bus to my house. So, you know. I used to be married to someone who was, who grew up in a Hawaii as a white girl, and she describes pretty much the same kind of thing. Yeah, I remember that. Yeah, but it wasn't everybody. It's just like now. It wasn't everybody.

It was, you know, people, there's bad people and good people. good people. Yeah, I know, but only Whitey can be, but only Whitey can be racist in this culture for some reason. Yeah, yeah, right. Appreciate the call. Thanks for setting me straight on that one, okay?

770KM.D. I'll grab one more here before news. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Hey, good morning, Bill. Morning. Michael here, just what's more sacred than having no taxes on your land? So, I mean, you're talking about

Christians getting sacred land saying, and I was like, first of all, you can't really define Christian anymore. Secondly, like, who's the biggest, one of the biggest landowners on planet Earth doesn't pay taxes on that land because it's sacred land. So I don't know. I just kind of throw that out. Yeah, okay. So that's true. If it was truly sacred land, Caesar could not touch it, correct? I got no idea how they got their tax-exempt thing, but I'm saying if it's not sacred land, then why are they getting no tax? Why are they getting the tax break everywhere? And it costs us all money.

I'm a Christian, but whatever you could get and find that, first of all, I don't even, I don't consider the Pope of Christian right now. Yeah, Catholics would disagree with you on that, but... Well, that'd be their problem, because I could just go down what he's saying. His words out of his mouth. Sorry, I'm not out of his book. Yeah, well, yeah, like I said, that, you know, I could tell you stories about the mixed marriages that I've been aware of over the time.

but Michael, fair enough. Yeah. Maya condios, okay? It is 8 o'clock at KMED, KMED, HD1, Eagle Point, Medford, KBXG grants pass. Just how clean is your watch?