Bill Meyer Show Podcast - Sponsored by Clouser Drilling www.ClouserDrilling.com - 10-14-25_TUESDAY_6AM

Episode Date: October 14, 2025

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The Bill Meyer Show podcast is sponsored by Klausur drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausor drilling.com. Here's Bill Meyer. Good morning. It is Pebble and your shoe Tuesday at time that you can kind of let the cortisol go. Let it go, relax a little bit, maybe take a little lashwaganda. I've been reading about all these herbs and things together. It's supposed to help you with being calm and cool and collected.

I don't know. I think I'd like to, you know, whatever President Trump is having, I think I'd like to have some of that, whatever is in his, his concoctions. I don't know if he takes any, McDonald's hamburger and a Coke, right, Diet Coke, that kind of thing. Twelve minutes after six, hope you are doing well. But if you have something on your mind, go ahead, this is a good time to check in. We've got to have a great talk this morning. Lisa, I hope it's going to be a great talk. Every time I book somebody on the show, I'm hoping it's going to be a good talk.

But Tony Lyons is going to join me, and he is Sky Horse Publishing. He ended up putting out a lot of books that were not, shall we say, received by the mainstream very well. Skyhorse Publishing. He was printing the stuff during COVID that was true, but the system did not want you knowing much about it. Everything including the real RFK Jr., various other books. And now he's part of Maha Action. He's also an attorney and, like I said, president of Skyhorse Publishing. And we're going to be talking about the changes of the, in the rewriting of the rules over at the CDC.

We're going to have him on in about 20 minutes. I'm looking forward to finding out more about that. Herbert and I are going to be talking. Naturally, we always do a nice political talk here about what's going on in the state, including the increasing drama over in Portland, and everybody trying to say these are not the Antifa that you're looking for, kind of like taking the old Star Wars sort of thing. And everyone is just talking about how everything is, it's just all wrong. The impression that people are getting about Portland is just all wrong.

And this may be why. Now, this is an article from OPB. This is an article from OPB. And it's on their front of their website this morning, Oregon Public Broadcasting. Right-wing influencers shape nation and Trump's understanding of Portland protests. And they're talking about Benny Johnson, a pro-Trump social media personality, telling his followers that he had arrived. The Trump administration is here today. Ain't going to have any of this.

Benny says this is going to be a rowdy day. Then the influencers pack into SUVs, and then they follow Christy Nome. This is last week when she was in. And it's fascinating that the reporters on OPB, Oregon Public Broadcasting, are decrying how right-wing influence. influencers are shaping the impression and the news that's surrounding Portland. Oh, so it's only supposed to be Oregon Public Broadcasting and its cadre of left-wing social media influencers. They're the ones that are supposed to be telling the stories and only the story. They're the only ones who are to be telling the story.

I do find it interesting. It's like they kind of say the quiet part out loud. Look at all these right-wing influencers that are around here telling people of what's going. going on. They're shaping the narrative. That's our job. Oh, they're not believing us. You're going to believe us of your lying eyes that, you know, that sort of thing.

Like, well, remember Ron Wyden yesterday. Ooh, pumpkin. I'm sitting home. I'm over here in my southeast Portland neighborhood. And, you know, and everything is peaceful except that, ooh, pumpkin. Uh, anyway. It just gets a little bit exhausting. So anyway, that's what's going on.

OPB is very upset, very upset that you're not going to OPB to have the Oregon Public Broadcasting way of looking at the world and shaping things. That's the way it is supposed to be. So anyway, we'll be talking about that too. Grants Pass got a new Pierce Impel Fire engine. Price Impel Fire. You know, K-O-V-I reporting this one was purchased through the city council's budget. I have no doubt it was overpriced.

I've been reading a lot about the whole world of firefighting. The firefighting world, we're probably paying two to three times as much as we really should be for what a fire engine goes for. It was quite interesting. They're talking about how the fire department or the fire truck. industry is a very small industry or it's very kind of insular one of those kind of things and um what has been going on is that there has been a series of buyouts over a number of years in which uh you have one company one or two companies to keep getting bigger and bigger and bigger and you have fewer places that you can go to get a fire truck and the prices are

reflective of that if you think you're getting hosed no pun intended when you're going out and buying a Tesla cyber truck, wait until you go out and try to get a, you know, a new fire truck, what, half million dollars, maybe even more, probably more for that. Oh, by the way, I'm not blaming the city of Grants Pass. It's just the way it is,

but I just couldn't help but notice that you know, everything has to be a million dollar vehicle now because it is the fire laddies after all and you only have one or two places you can buy it from. I do find it interesting, though, that we have a federal trade commission.

It's supposed to be looking out for really weird monopolies, but they don't seem to do much about that. I don't know why, but I will get on that. I will find that story. I read it a few months ago, and I think I put it in my file, my stack of stuff somewhere, but I will definitely find that. To join in, 7705633-770 KMED. President Trump doing a victory lamp yesterday, all three. 20 living Israeli hostages return to Israel. A handful of the bodies have been returned here so far.

President Trump heralding, now a golden era of the Middle East. I hope he's right. I hope he's right. It would be great to see us not having to be reporting on the death and destruction. I'm not really taking a victory lap yet at this point. I don't know if you have an opinion on this one. I'm just looking back at the history of what has happened for so. many decades.

Oh, we have peace in the Middle East and then war breaks out. Oh, we have a new peace plan. We have the Cap David Accords. We have this and now we, you know, we have the Abraham Accords and everything. You know, maybe President Trump is going to be able to pull a rabbit out of the Middle East hat that has never been able to be done before. I will remain guardedly optimistic.

And maybe the reason that this one will be more successful than others, I'm just leaving out the possibility for success is that he has structured it with a lot of business involved. And I know some people were kind of irritated that, gosh, there seems to be a lot of talk about development and, you know, kind of like crass, dirty businessing kind of things. But I think, honestly, there's a possibility that the interlocking business deals and the plans for redevelopment, although it might not be the way that a lot of people would have gone about doing it, it may provide a lot of incentives that might otherwise not be there to keep people pulling in the same direction. At least I'm thinking that might be what's going on.

Do you have an opinion on that one way or the other? My default position is that they won't be able to hold it together, but if there's anyone that I think could hold it together, it could be the deal-making in this particular case with a lot of interlocking business deals and many different countries, rather, and companies involved in this. Donald Trump could probably keep it together. But like I said, my default position will be guardedly optimistic, but I don't know, looking at the history.

I hope he's able to hold that together. So that's kind of how I'm looking at it this morning. 7705-633. Schumer countdown or shutdown continues. Speaker Johnson warns we're barreling towards one of the longest shutdowns in American history. Warning coming from Speaker Johnson just a few hours ago.

It says unless Democrats drop their partisan demands and pass a clean no-strings-attached budget to reopen the government and pay the federal workers said nothing's going to change much. Congressional leaders have been locked in a standoff. They could vote again today, but all the votes have been going down so far.

Democrats are demanding that Republicans make concessions on health care. This is what you've been hearing. Because it's all about health care. It is always about health care. Don't, well, just like that, this one drop, I forget where I got it. Don't take my health care away. Yeah, everything about it is.

Don't take my health care away. But as Dr. Orient said yesterday on my show, what's really happening is that the expiration of these Obamacare subsidies is really demonstrating how broken the system is. And that's going back to the other article. we were talking about not only with Dr. Oriette yesterday, but K-O-B-I talking about it last week in which there's this woman out in Gold Beach,

in which because of the ACA expirations, the ACA's the Obamacare, Affordable Care Act, because of the expiration at the end of the year of these tax credits, she goes from $250 a month to $1,250 a month. That is serious. That is serious, and apparently she is a, you know, an American citizen of modest income.

This was supposed to be all temporary. Well, you know, it's like trying to get rid of a temporary government benefit. And so the Democrats, frankly, are making hay here. And yes, they are right. There are some people that would be hurt by this. And yes, the Republicans are right that it's also about backfilling Oregon's budget so that it's able to spend money to give free illegal aliens. health care, free health care to illegal aliens.

We do this through the back door. So, you know, instead of taking state money in helping the woman from Gold Beach that was in the K-O-B-I story last week, we want to make sure that illegal aliens are able to get their treatment. That's what we seem to be. You know, once again, it's getting down onto that weird priority of love. You know what I'm getting at, in which we love everybody except our own people. you know that's it you know there's it is that's really what it is we're loving the wrong people

and we think that people who just happen to be here who have come here illegally and are living here illegally and doing all the rest of it well they they deserve just as much love as everyone else i'm not saying you want to be cruel to people i'm not saying that you don't take care of emergency room care like we've written laws about but for crying out loud you know come on can we start pulling and actually take care of our old people of our own people first so the Republicans are telling the truth and yeah the Democrats are telling the truth here so which truth should be winning out should we just uh you know re-approve these subsidies for just a little bit

a lot of money not sustainable but um I don't know we seem to find a lot of money for all sorts of weird things in the federal budget even under Trump too lots of inertia in that budget making process so a few questions on my mind maybe you have an answer or two share them with me if you could it's a pebble in your shoe Tuesday, 623 at KMED and KBXG. By the way, happy birthday to my son, Will, Will, Will Boat, Willie. I call him Willie.

Actually, I have to call him Will now because now he's a man. 27 years old, and he's about a foot taller than me. Well, wherever he got that height, it wasn't from me. I think he got it from his mom, but one way or the other. Good kid. Doing good. Talk to him last night. He's talking about coming into town at some point if the weather

holds up he's living in that bend area maybe moving to prineville in a little bit but work in the pet store work in the pet store with his uh his half sister and they're doing that in the prineville area seems to be doing really well really proud of him pulling it together pulling it together was selling cars he was doing good at selling cars but he he likes this better i think possibility of his uh his own business as time goes on it's 24 after he's six, whenever's on your mind, you can share it next on KMED. And I'm on KMED. 26 after six, it is Pevel in your shoe Tuesday.

Vicki's in the Applegate part of the early morning risers and commenter club. How you doing, Vicki? Welcome back. Good. I'm doing great this morning, and I'm so glad we're going to have some sunshine for a minute. Yeah, yeah. Well, you know, I was actually kind of enjoying the rain, and it kind of gives you that little snuggy feel, but I won't mind a few days of sun. That's good.

Yeah, I, yeah, my yard and everything, I mean, it was like a swamp land in my yard, so I'm kind of glad I just planted grass seed not too long ago, so it's like, no. Hey, hey, could you come over to my yard and plant grass seed in mine and try to get rid of the Bermuda? Could you do that? Sure. Okay. All right, I'll be, I'll be standing by, okay? Anyway, what did you call about here, Vicki? Well, you know, we were talking about illegal, alien health.

care. Yeah. And my opinion about that is, is that if illegal aliens are being able to go to the welfare office or through OHP, there's a record of them. So obviously, if they're illegal and they're getting benefits, there's a record that they're illegal and getting benefits. So instead of taking, you know, making us pay, like, gobs of money. need to get, you know, three stitches and have to go to the emergency room, why don't they go down

the list of the illegal alien people who are on health care and take care of them first? Get them off, and that would open up a door so that we could afford health care. I know that you're saying reallocate that money, and I understand. that but you have to understand but like I said though Oregon has a warped sense of the priority of love they love the foreigner they love the person who is not you know supposed to be here more than they love their own people that's generally speaking the way this state works and it's not that I'm saying want to be cruel to illegal aliens it's not what I'm talking about by the way the amount of money that they're spending on illegal health care well the amount of

money that they're spending on illegal alien health care in the state of Oregon is not a small amount of money. It's in the neighborhood of, in fact, I was reading, I think it was not Capital Chronicle, it could be taxpayer alliance, but they were reporting that it's actually more than the budget for OSP. Oregon State Police doesn't get as much money as illegal alien health care in the state of Oregon. Maybe that's part of it. If they can kill two birds with one stone, They can provide health care to illegal aliens why, you know, draining are, they've wanted to get rid of the police from the beginning. So maybe they're killing two birds with one stone. Yeah, it could be.

I never thought about it, but the reason they're not doing what you were suggesting and reallocating that money is because they love the, they love the outsider more. I don't know however else to put it. That's the way the state and policy tends to roll. You have to define love. Is love like, oh, I care about you, or is love, I want you to vote, I want you to do this. You need to do that if you get benefits. You need it's... I think the answer to all your questions is yes, okay?

All right. All right, thank you. Vicki, I appreciate the call. Thanks for checking in from the applicant. Let me go to Tom, Thompson, Talent, South County. How you doing this morning, Tom? Go ahead. Just fine.

Yeah. And regarding the previous, not only being squeezed out of health care, but what about housing? How, you know, Oregon has a housing crisis, and how much is that being subsidized? And I do find it interesting that at the same time that Oregon has a housing crisis, one of the big things that is being discussed is, of course, putting in the baseball stadium that would knock down somewhere between a reported 50 to 100 homes here in southern Oregon. They may not necessarily be the bestest homes, but they are someone's home. But, you know, I guess it doesn't matter.

Yeah. What I wanted to talk about, there's a great article in Lou Rockwell today. I really recommend people visit that site often. Yeah, I do every morning. Every morning it's one of the first sites they take a look at just because there's good thinking there. Yeah, there really is. And, you know, they don't always agree with one another. You have some very – so it's really kind of stimulating to read the different perspectives.

And so it's not like a doctrinaire, this is the way it is, and so forth. It's a libertarian website, but really they have some very opposing views. So you have to kind of put on your thinking cap to sort through it. And today, one of the articles is America, we have a problem. Propaganda has reached every corner of our daily lives by Gary Null. And he goes into how we've been lied to about all the wars. going from the sinking of the Maine to 9-11 to the COVID. And I think he also talks in that article, if I recall, I just glanced at that.

Was this the article in which Gary was talking about how often much much of the information is hidden away or considered classified about wars, even the recent wars, war on terror, Middle Eastern wars, things like that. because the idea is that the the court historians, you know, the Howard Zins of the world have to get their story straight and push the government narrative for a number of years, so that way we're no longer even questioning, you know, what happened, whether it is 9-11, whether it's the global war on terror, whether it's the Vietnam War, whether it's the Kennedy assassination, is this the same guy that you're speaking of? Well, he does touch him on all of those and so forth. It's something that I've observed, you know, since the 18, well, about 1970, I realize that the government's a nonstop line organization. And, you know, and I see a lot of this great division between right and left, both sides are being lied to consistently and constantly and so forth. You take something like a global warming.

These people are not that are pushing that we have a climate crisis. I don't think most of them are evil. They're just brainwashed. Well, it all sprung from the 1970s take on. There are too many people and people are bad. It all sprung from that. And they were looking at this Club of Rome getting together on this one with their papers. That was where all of this really, you know,

got started in the 1970s people are bad, you know? The limits of growth in 1972 by the club of Rome. And then you had Paul Ehrlich with his population bomb, and it's all part of this whole agenda. There's not enough. And the only, of course, the only way that we can save in us and civilization ourselves is just turn all your power, money, and tension over to the government. The government's going to save us.

And the government being the primary lying mechanism in our society. society, it's like, you know, well, we're going to put all our faith and trust in the mafia. Yeah, and by the way, it's still lying to us today. In fact, you have to know that something is not really truthful in the news until it's been officially denied by the federal government most of the time. Yeah, exactly. So if people don't realize, if they don't see and understand that, that can be deadly, can kill them. I mean, safe and effective and so forth. And what it boils down to is that as a civilization, as a population, we cannot make rational, common sense decisions because we don't have the proper information.

It's all, we're so manipulated. Yeah. And until we become more unmanipulated, we are still continued to make bad decisions about policy. Now, there are some bright shoots, though, some green shoots coming up there. going to talk with Tony Lyons, who's the director of Maha Action coming up, Tom. And it has to do with the CDC doing that quiet rewrite, rather, of the COVID vaccine guidelines. Okay. Oh, that'll be interesting. Yeah, so we're going to talk to him about that coming up. So there are green shoots. It's not just all doom and gloom, but boy, I have to tell you, a lot of people got

canceled and destroyed during the process to get to here, though. That's for sure. It's a 635. More on that coming up on KMED. It's all. You know what that means. Medford. This is our moment. Vote yes on Measure 15-238. Paid for by Creekside Quarter Pack number 24432. You're hearing the Bill Myers Show on 1063 KMED. By the way, the Creekside Pack people who are going to come down and talk today, we originally were going to have them at 830 or so this morning. That has been rescheduled.

They've asked him we're going to be doing that on Friday morning. Friday morning, I believe, is when they're going to be coming in studio, and we will talk about that. And, of course, that'll be after the town hall, 530 till 7 at the RCC building, you know, downtown Medford. They're going to be doing that Thursday night. So I think we'll have a lot to talk about with them as these ballots get ready to go out. Okay. Now then, joining me right now, Tony Lyons.

Tony Lyons is the director of Maha Action. And he's also the president of Skyhorse Publishing. And he's an attorney. And I guess, I guess, Tony, these days, if you're going to be a publisher, You better be an attorney, too, shouldn't you? Right? Welcome to the show. Yeah, I think that's a very great point, that if you're a free-speed publisher,

you believe that people should have access to real information. You're going to have to take some risk. Do you think that, you know, before we get into the Maha situation, I wanted to talk you more about that, though, is it fair to say that the First Amendment and the Second Amendment are kind of on life support at this point in time? And I know we see some occasional wins, But, you know, when you see government, even out of government officials that I like, that are talking about, hey, you know, we've got to crack down on hate speech.

We've got to work out, oh, this is insensitive. It's like, that's not supposed to matter, but we've seemed to have forgotten. And I'm wondering if you have an opinion on that as an attorney and a publisher. Yeah, my feeling is that the world is better off when people can just say whatever they want. And then you hear, you know, the full spectrum of ideas. And then you have the ability to make a decision for yourself. And if you hear sort of a curated version of the fact, then it's really hard to have any kind of freedom because you just don't know whether that's complete. And so, you know, I'm always on the side of just maximum freedom of speech.

That then people can, you know, see when they think something is hatred, decide for themselves. They can see when they think something is true and not just be kind of led down a particular rabbit hole in any direction. Tony, you wrote a lot of books that were very controversial or published many of them, including RFK Jr.'s book, The Wuhan Cover Up, and the terrifying bio-weapons arms race and various other ones. What was probably ultimately your biggest seller so far out of all of these? Could you share that? I think, you know, the real Anthony Fauci sold 1.4 million copies in all format. You know, it's funny that you bring that up.

Somebody from the AP contacted me, and they were saying, you know, how did I feel about publishing misinformation like the real Anthony Fauci? And I said, you know, what makes it misinformation for you? Is it just that you disagree with it or that you, you know, have you even read it? So it looks to me like they didn't read it. They don't have any sense of what's in it. the lady who I was talking to didn't know that it had 2,194 citations in it, that nobody had ever sued about any of the allegations in the book.

You know, so that's kind of where we are, that a major newspaper will say, oh, it's a crazy anti-vaccine book and it's, you know, spewing out misinformation with no interest whatsoever in telling me or even making an argument for what in it is incorrect. And that's just a fascinating thing that major newspapers can do that routinely. Well, I'm amazed at how incurious many journalists are. Is that just something the way that they're coming out of the journalism schools maybe? Because you think that before they're asking about information, that maybe they would take a look at the source themselves, just saying?

Yeah, so what I said to her was, you know, look at those citations and find one that you think is wrong. That's what an investigative journalist does. They don't throw around words like misinformation or, you know, anti-vaccine or conspiracy theorists. I mean, all of those things are just an excuse not to look at the information and not to engage in real dialogue so that we can get some sense of what's true and what isn't. Tony Lyons with me, of course, President of Skyhorse Publishing and Director of Maha Action. What is, you know, Maha Action all about? What is that now that we're going to get into that story here?

Now we've got the prelude. Yeah, Maha. Yeah, Maha action is really interested in figuring out how we can limit the delivery of toxins to the citizens of the United States. You know, that we had a government that's kind of colluded with a bunch of big pharma, big ag, big food companies, and allowed them to do some things that they really shouldn't do. And it's, you know, it's not a question of more regulation. It's a question of less corruption that in a free market system, companies that harm the public would have to be. to pay for that, and companies that do a better job would get a benefit. Okay.

When you're talking about toxins, can you be more specific about this? You know, you hear that, and sometimes my eyes glaze over, you know, about these kind of things, right? Yeah, yeah. So, for example, you know, if you're giving somebody a vaccine that has borax in it, that's a known toxin, that's a bad thing. And the public ought to know that this specific vaccine has borax in it. If you're giving somebody some kind of food that has mercury in it or aluminum in it or, you know, other metals, you know, people have a right to know that. So, you know, the Maha movement wants to have more radical transparency because that people really know the true story of the

decisions that they're making so that they can make better decisions. Something that I've been interested in here for a while, Tony. And I don't know. Do you dig into the PIFAs, into the PIFA chemicals, the forever chemical problems here? Because I've been reading that there is such a huge problem

with it right now, that it's almost like some people are kind of throwing up their hands, not knowing exactly where to go about this. The Forever chemicals, a lot of it from the Teflon-type fire-retarding chemicals and things like that.

And they end up having real endocrine disrupting kind of characteristics. Is this the kind of stuff that Maha action is looking to take on to? Just curious. Yeah, I mean, we really want to look into all of those kinds of things. And, you know, we're living in a toxic world. There's no way you're going to get rid of toxins, you know, from the entire system. But what you can do is limit those toxins. So, you know, disease comes from toxic overload, not from just exposure to toxins.

So it's not about going back to some sort of natural world, where there are no toxins in anything. It's a question of lowering the toxic load on everybody in the United States, so fewer people wind up getting chronic disease. Okay. Could you give us an example, though, of the overall toxic load that I guess I'm trying to go for some specifics. I know it's more than just vaccines, though, is what I'm guessing at, right? Sure, sure. So, you know, if you, you know, it could be mercury in the flu vaccine that was recently taken out. So most people thought that it had been taken out 20 years ago. Yeah. I remember that. Yeah. So, you know, in the multi-dose flu vaccine was a big dose of mercury that was just really damaging and harmful to kids, hundreds of studies on that. So, you know, that's a big, big piece of the puzzle. It's a lot of progress to get that problem solved. But the same thing is true with pesticides on fruits and vegetables, you know, that if you're careful there, you then can, can, and have less of it, which means that some of the time they're still going to be pesticides on it, but you can do better.

And if you buy products, you know, and it's like you said, it could be any product. It could be flame retardant, like you were saying, on furniture. So you should research all of those things, and you should try to have as little exposure as you can. But you're still going to have some, but we can all do much better. Tony, you were talking about how this is not about necessarily increasing regulation, but there's a part of me that wonders if this is something, and I'm not a fan of getting the feds involved in everything, but there are certain issues that I can't help and wonder if maybe the federal government is a better kind of source for such things, because one of the articles I was reading was talking about, like, because I've been really interested in that forever chemical sort of thing, how there's a patchwork. quilt of of kind of rules and regulations and uh some states have gotten uh pretty good at at wanting to try to keep those out of the soil and out of the water and others like down in the south uh mississippi as an example is just kind of wide open and so this is where they get

dumped you know biosolids and things is this something where maybe the that uh you know the trump administration does need to have a one size fits all kind of thing when it comes to the pollution world. You know, I would think that it's always better if you can get the government to be involved in helping with transparency. Sorry about the background noise. I'm in New York City. That's okay. We're good with that. But basically so that so that the public knows what's going on and can make better choices. But sure, you know, if companies are dumping toxic chemicals, you know, they should be prevented from doing that. But the biggest problem is where the government is working with these big companies, where the, you know, in public-private partnerships where the companies are then

funding government agencies. And then you've got this level of corruption that makes it so difficult to actually regulate them. So it's like all the people that left the CDC recently and they're all working for Pfizer and Merck now, that kind of thing. It's the revolving door, that kind of thing. So they're all, right, they're all saying exactly what they're supposed to say, which is that the new administration is dangerous, because the new administration fired them, and because the companies that they're working for are going to lose money because of what the new administration is doing to protect the public. Ah, okay. Yeah, so you think it should be one of those things where maybe when you get out of the FDA or the CDC or any other federal agency that you're not going to

work for these agents, for the ones you were regulating for maybe a decade or more? I don't know. If you can do that or not, that's possibility. Yeah, it's very, very hard to do that. I mean, they have rules in place now, but they're just not effective. And, you know, the same kinds of things that have happened for the last 20 or 30 years keep on happening, where, you know, you can see these kind of spreadsheets of people who work for the FDA, the CDC, you know, other government agencies, they go right into the companies that they were regulating.

And that just is a recipe for corruption. Tony, how big of a win was the CDC rewrite of the vaccine guidelines? Could you kind of give us an idea how big that was? It hasn't been making a lot of noise, but this is probably big news, isn't it? I think it's going to be a process, but what you have now is a situation where the public is curious, where they've seen that there have been things going on that should not go on, that there's been an incredible amount of lying and deception from the government, And that now we have people there who disagree with each other, who disagree with the things that have happened in the past, and who are open to new ideas.

And then that, I think, alerts the public that these kinds of things aren't settled, that science is always in flux and that we're always trying to do better. And the idea that we had for the last 10 years or so was that the science on all the material issues is somehow settled, like Dr. Fauci said, and that we should just follow what that is. and that's not science and that's not good for anybody and now we have people who recognize that all right how do you join maha action and what will you find there and what's the website why you to wrap that up it's yeah it's mahaaction dot com you can go there and volunteer you can join our substack um which is the uh maha report and uh and then follow us there and we have big events all around the country and we're just trying to get the word out we We have a, every Wednesday at 4 p.m.

We have a Zoom call with thousands of people on it, and government officials come on and they tell what's going on there and explain things that have been misrepresented as a media. So there are, you know, lots of different ways. Big battles going on, still happening, but I'm seeing some green shoots, and that's good news. Tony, I appreciate your work, both as a publisher and attorney and also now working with Maha Action.

We'll have you back, okay? And get your steps in, buddy. All right, you take care now. 652, KMED, 993, KBXG. This is the Bill Myers Show. Oregon Truck and Auto Authority is your work truck and van headquarters. Drilling.com. This is News Talk 1063, KMED, and you're waking up with the Bill Myers Show.

Since this is Pebble in Your Shoe Tuesday, I'm always happy to take your call. 770KMED. It is open phone time here for the next half hour or so. So if you wanted to, gosh, anything, it is either on your mind, either positive. It doesn't have to be a pebble in your shoe, but especially something that is irritating you. I understand you want to get that out there. I was reading this article, and actually there's a couple of things. I'm trying to tie a couple of things together here.

And you know how we're always talking about how we, how do we read? the so-called other side. I think most of the people listening are probably of a more right-wing or conservative persuasion. Not all, but, you know, but how do you reach the other side and how do you kind of like breakthrough? How do you break through the mental fog that seems to control so much of what happens here in the state of Oregon? The control structure is very, of course, left-wing, as we know. And what got me thinking about this is, um, I I was reading the Oregonian yesterday, and they were talking about the emergency naked bike protest. The emergency naked bike protest for ice.

They were all getting stripped down, and they're doing their naked bike ride, and it just struck me as I'm looking at the pictures of one of these young women who was in the naked bike ride, I suppose. and she was putting the little sparkles under her eye and it was in the Oregonian website and so I shared that on Facebook yesterday and I couldn't help but connect that thought process that overly compassionate big-hearted empty brain approach to life

of this young woman with what I would see with young women over in Europe how many years have we been seeing the young women in Europe that would be going out there holding up their signs welcome migrants welcome migrants we're welcoming migrants and they're going on a welcoming migrants and you know and usually this is right before the big spike in sexual assaults would be happening over in Sweden and Switzerland and and all these other things and and you just

see this thought you could just see the thinking of this young woman in portland as she's getting ready to strip down and i'm going to i'm going to make a difference here and we're going to take down ice because once again it's that it's this corrupted or inverted sense of of love and compassion and there's even a guy on my facebook page last night that was saying oh well what's wrong with her showing her love and compassion what do you think is wrong with this and so i just respond to him and said, well, I mean, here's another dude with his testicles in a lockbox, probably thinking that he can make it with this, you know, sparkly-faced girly in Portland, probably. And I said, well, so I guess you're holding up your migrants-welcome sign too

and thinking that there is nothing wrong with stopping ICE, with doing this. And unless ICE is able to do its job, unless we actually have. have an orderly process here for having visitors and or potential new workers and immigrants come in. We don't have a country. And yeah, it's the same look that I saw over in Europe, the European people.

Oh, welcome migrants. Welcome migrants. Oh, no. Why is everybody raping us? You know, they were taking, like, you know, you know, Pakistani people. Oh, it's their culture. Okay, well, the culture requires that we let them rape us. yikes you know i get it gets it gets a little bit nutty how do you how do you cut through

something like that and ultimately i wonder if it has to do with uh with genetics if um and i'm not talking about this in a in a eugenics kind of thing where you know you start breeding things but i was i was reading the story about this now i'll get to your calls here just a moment but this story kind of connected it to the sparkly face girl and the thinking process of liberalism. I couldn't help it. And I was reading about the Jim twins, and this was on a website, how stuff works, that in 1979, the world learned the incredible story of Jim Lewis and Jim Springer. These were identical twins that were separated at birth, right? And they reunited when they were about 40 years old. They were both born in Ohio in 1940. And the

brothers were adopted by different families. And amazingly, they both ended up being named Jim. They grew up 40 miles apart, but they never knew the other brother, twin brother existed. And when they finally met, the similarities between the two of them, remember genetically identical twins. The similarities between the two of them were incredible. Both men had married a woman named Linda, divorced her, and then remarried a woman named Betty. Both of them, both brothers. Each had a son. both had named him James Allen. And as children, both of them had a dog named toy.

Both of them raised separately, 40, 50 miles apart. They never met each other. They shared interests that were very specific. Both enjoyed woodworking and math, hated spelling. They drove the same model light blue Chevy and even smoked the same brand cigarettes. And the strangest thing of all, both families vacationed in the exact same three-blocked stretch of beach in Florida, but their paths never crossed. So the gym twins.

And it was kind of showing how strong apparently the genetic predispositions to behavior may be more so than we think. And I'm not saying that, you know, you can't fight that, but are we fighting? Are we fighting genes when it comes to political orientation? I've kind of wondered about this because I see that same. like I said, we started to repeat it and beat the dead horse or the dead bicyclists. But, you know, the empty-headed stare of welcome migrants in Portland and the welcome migrants over in the European Union as the rapugees end up started having their way with the, you know, the populace in here. And maybe it is something where there's like a gene for big-heartedness and empty critical thinking.

I don't know. I just thought it just raised it. Maybe that's a, you know, a real battle. You start wondering if the gym twins were identical, maybe this is why, you know, that's happening too. But anyway, I know it's a kind of circuitous way to get around to, you know, what we're fighting these days, but maybe you can't fight the genes. I don't know. Hi, good morning. K.M.D., who's this?

And what did you feel like talking about? Welcome. Hi, hi, there. This, Chris. Hey, I'm pebble in your shoe thing. I was just down in L.A. over the weekend. and went to the Reagan Museum, which was really great, but it was the lack of customer service from a young girl. But I walked into the place, and you go to the docent there to get your ticket.

She says, well, do you have the email? I said, yeah, I have it, but can you just look up my name? I don't want to get my phone out and take 10 minutes trying to find the email. And I give her my name, and she goes, well, I don't have anything here. So I said, okay, here we go. This is going downhill fast. So I get my phone out, pull up the app. She scans it because that's what the only thing she knows how to do.

And she, oh, look, here you are right here. And I said, no kidding. And then she hands me the self-service guided to her electronic device. Just here you go. And I'm told to walk away, go through the door. By the way, I have to ask you, did she thank you for your service? No. No.

No. Okay. No. Didn't do anything. Just anyway. Then another dose is there. and he sees I have the electronic device, and then he has a roll of stickers. It's a dot.

It's about an inch diameter, and they put it on your chest. And he goes, what's this? Is this a laser-guided, but gun drops down out of the ceiling, and they can shoot me if I do something wrong? No, why was it? I don't know. I think it had something to do with I had the device, and maybe if you walk out with the device, And maybe if you walk out with the device and you have that thing on, it sets an alarm off. Because I walked around, I went to the airport with the thing on, forgot I had it.

Did you ever get to the bottom of what was going on, why it was so bad? Just as the individual young girl, you know, I had, she had to do something that was out of what she's used to do. It's, to me, it's just customer service. You know, and then another older docent came over, and I said, well, how do I work this thing? What do you do? I think they just assume everybody knows how to do everything when you go into these places, I guess. But I just irritated this little girl. Yeah, well, don't you miss the days when we actually used to take a pesky human who was knowledgeable about the museum,

and they would take people around and. No, no, no, don't get me wrong. they are there. Oh. And they were really, really good, but you can't do that. I just chose to do the self. I didn't even hardly use the thing because most of the displays I was familiar with in on it. And, but anyway, I just want to say it's just customer service and it's the age gap.

Yeah, customer service and not understanding, yeah, the challenges. Okay, it's good point. Thanks for sharing your pebble. Well, that's a big one there at the Reagan Museum. Let me grab another call here. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Hello.

Hi, Cherry. Hi. I was a little picked off because I got audited and I went to my appointment and they were closed. What, yesterday? Yeah. And I thought, well, it's Columbus Day. Are they, you know, whatever. So I got, we've got a coffee and they were finally open.

But that's not why I called. Basically, I saw a movie. I saw the naked gun in my birthday suit. Oh, okay. Now, this is the new one, the new one with Liam Neeson, right? Yeah. What did you think about that? And I always wonder when I see the trailers,

if the trailers were the funniest parts and the movie doesn't really make it. But what do you think? I kind of liked it. It wasn't great, but it wasn't bad. and it had some cute quips and a lot of chemistry between Pamela and him. By the way, you know they're an item now. They're dating. Really?

Yes. That is a strange coupling. I never would have put those two together, frankly, Pamela Anderson and Liam Neeson. But, you know, Viva. That's like putting Marilyn Monroe with John Wayne. Yeah. I mean. Exactly.

So he's so masculine. He's so typecasted into other things. But he did a great job. I was very surprised. It was pretty funny. It was clever in some ways. Yeah. My problem is, though, to me, naked gun is still Leslie Nielsen.

I don't. I don't think anybody can surpass that level of bumbling lovability, you know? Yeah. And don't call me Shirley. Yeah, exactly. Ah, right. By the way, I still keep that movie in my DVR, the airplane, you know, the airplane movie. I keep it there.

And anytime I need a stupid laugh, I go to that, okay? Thanks, Jerry. 7705-633. If you were on hold, I would get right to you. It's pebble in your shoe Tuesday. Let's get into it here. And I'll get you all set up here on KMED, KMED, H.D1, Eagle Point, Medford, KBXG, Grants Pass. Chef Salad, so fresh in color.