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Episode Date: October 21, 2025

Dr. Powers has Where Past Meets Present profile of Edenvale Winery, the latest lawfare reporting, What about the Comey and Bolton indictments? Other news and open phones, KMED AM talk, too.

The Bill Myers Show podcast is sponsored by Klausur drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausor drilling.com. And we'll grab a little open phone time before Fox News. The entire hour, I'm just always about five, six minutes behind. I don't know what that is. Well, time. Time's only relative, right?

Holly Morton here. Hello, Holly. Good to hear from you. What's on your mind today, huh? Good morning. Well, I was just reflecting on the ultimate irony. of the title of, you know, of no king. Because originally kingdoms were people who were taxing citizens

in order to provide protection and so forth. Currently, what we have is that Democrats are the ones taxing, particularly in our state. And people like Trump are trying to reduce taxes by reducing spending. And people like the commissioners that we have now, Andreas Fleck and so that team are trying to reduce tax to the citizens in order to make their lives more comfortable. So I'm just trying to figure out what is the big beef.

You know, they talk about immigration and that kind of thing, illegal aliens. That create much greater taxes for the citizens. And it seems like it's the very citizens who are complaining about poverty and that kind of thing. And, you know, I just wanted to speak to that because I know fair U.S. made it very clear that illegal immigration costs Oregonians about $1.2 billion a year. And a lot of this due to extra education costs and, of course, social welfare costs too. And not saying that there are some jobs that are also being performed by that, too. I'm not questioning that.

But our policy does have a cost to us. At the same time that they're talking about taxing us even more for everything else because they can't afford it because of the services that we're providing right now for the existing folks, I guess, Holly. It gets a little irritating, yeah. And it's just anesthetical. The whole thing is antithetical, and they're blaming the various people who are trying to solve those problems for the problems themselves.

And every time I hear it, it makes me want to scream, because ultimately, the taxation problem that we have in our state of Oregon is definitely pushed by the Democrats. and their whole process and their... Well, the problem is that it's not even controlled by the Democrats, though, Holly. You know, state spending is really controlled by the unionized workforce, really. Union politics is so powerful, which, of course, is, you know, largely a Democrat, you know, in this state. It is a... But the legislation...

Yeah, very powerful. Very powerful. Yeah, very powerful control of that. And it's just kind of like we've joked before that, that if the teachers union really wanted the schools improved, that they could probably force that change if they really wanted to improve. But then it's just always about more money. Yeah, my teeth hurt too. About weekend.

And we're all picking up the tab for it. We should be supporting those people who are trying to reduce. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. You're supposed to be happy that we're supporting them, Holly. Happy, happy, I tell you. Thank you for the call. Hello, Brian. Yes. First of all, Bill, I'd just like to thank you for your questioning of Matt Furlock when he was on earlier today. I just wanted to let the public know that I've been at the growers' market every single Saturday for the last month, setting on my booth to hand out literature that explains the facts and the truth about indivisible and about this whole recall.

The number one thing I hear from women, especially women with children, as they walk up to me, screaming and yelling at me, that they sign the recall because Chris Barnett destroyed the library system in Grants Pass. Which is one of the biggest pieces of nonsense. That's some of the most nonsensical non-thinking that I've ever heard. Now, how do they draw that Chris Barnett, who is actually part of the, Well, actually part of the team that was negotiating to get a decent... He's the one that fixed the problem in the last month.

Okay. But he was not even a commissioner when this whole library thing came up and the 4-H thing came up and OSU and all of that. And he was not even a commissioner, but they're using that as a tool to remove him and get signatures to recall him. Yeah. That's very upsetting, for sure. but as you well know, lies are protected speech. Yes, and that's their number one way of getting people that are unaware to sign their petition or recall post. All right, point well taken.

Thank you for the call. I'll grab one more. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome. Hello. Hello. This is David.

Yeah, David. What's on your mind? Hello, hello. Hey, yeah, I was in Ashland on Saturday. I have to go over there twice a week for work. And I take pictures for new homeowners insurance policies, which is a disaster for two major insurance companies and also do drive-bys of houses and free foreclosure.

Anyhow, Saturday, around 11, I moved to downtown Ashland, and for six blocks, I bet there was 1,000 people. Okay. They were four deep on the sidewalk coming out into the street, and my windows down, and they're waving there, hey, you know, no Kings Day. And I put my hands out the window, and I clapped my hands, and it got them excited.

And I yelled out, I said, Trump is president. He was duly elected, and I voted for him. He's not a king. Oh, my goodness. All of a sudden, then people were kind of moving towards me, old people, yelling, F you, F, you, get the F out of our town. And I just kind of smiled and waved and made my way through town. So it was incredible.

Oh, okay. So they were not looking for a dialogue, in other words. No, no, no. And the last thing I said was, hey, celebrate that diversity. That even got them matter. Anyhow. Good for you. I'm glad you had an entertaining No Kings today.

Now, when I went downtown in the Metford One, I thought it was several hundred. I didn't, but I would expect it to be very, very heavy in Ashland. I would have no doubt about that. Maybe I was just there at the wrong time. Maybe there were thousands, but according to the photos that I saw, and what I saw, to me it was several hundred, but maybe it was bigger earlier. That could be. All right.

Yeah, yeah. All right. Appreciate the call. Thanks. I'm glad you made it through with no paint scratching and dents in the doors or anybody pulling you out and beating you to death. Okay? We're glad they didn't happen. True, all right.

Chuck Fox News here in just a moment. Dr. Dennis Powers, where Passmeet's present. We'll have that coming up. If you're remodeling your house, start with the foundation. Millet Construction offers. Here, KMED and Krantz Pass on 105-9, K290AF, Rogue River in South Jackson County on 1067 K-294-A-S. Ashland. Street-fighting man, rather. Dr. Dennis Powers.

I don't know. Were you out fighting in the streets on No Kings 2 on Saturday? Well, actually, you know, I talked to some people afterwards, and it was very lukewarm in Ashland. Really? Yeah. Because I had another person reported that it was like four feet deep in, four people deep, rather, as he was going through downtown. And that was earlier, maybe it was the 11 o'clock, maybe it was the early part of it. Everybody was getting really hot and sporty and all agitated, I guess. And when were you there?

I think it also has to do with, you know, I've been swarmed in previous ones because one was on a Saturday a couple years ago. And on that one, my car was totally surrounded by demonstrators, just coming out of Lithia Park, and I quickly had to go ahead and a couple of them were just looking at me like, wonder where this person is. And so I flashed an okay sign, and then they smiled and they just waved me through. Yeah, it's interesting. My experience at No Kings, now I was there about noonish is when I was. went through it at that point. And I was not reacting to it one way or the other, but I was

driving the van again. So I'm kind of recognizable when I'm driving that around town, instead of a specific vehicle. And there was one person in the no, in the crowd, rather, of No Kings 2 that flipped me off. And I think they must have recognized me, or maybe they saw it on Facebook or, you know, something like that. But that was about it. I just kind of waved, you know, as I got flipped off, but that was it. One of the things that really struck me, though, is in spite of the 17 million that was put in by Soros, along with other gamers who were trying to overthrow this country, what was interesting was the use of American flags. There is a person living within the neighborhood who is a Marxist. There's no question about it,

and the fights with people a couple blocks down. Are they trying to change up the messaging, though, by bringing American flags rather than flying Mexican flags and waving them back and forth to people? Oh, yeah, as a matter of fact, the first thing that this person did at that house was putting an American flag out, and I just started laughing as I drove past it.

You know, the way that Marxists are going, especially when you throw in, you know, all of the prime people who are really trying to get power back, and to use the American flag when they've gone ahead and supported destroying Tesla dealerships when they've going ahead and having this, like here in Salem. Well, you know what it is. It's embarrassing. Dennis, it's not no kings, too.

What it is is that they just don't like Republicans, and it's like it's no Republicans is essentially what it is, no Republican presidents too. And I didn't see a whole lot of protests going on when President Obama pulled out his phone in his pen, you know, those kind of things. I didn't see a whole lot of protest when Joe Biden was signing the executive orders telling everybody, hey, you either take the untested jab or else you're going to lose your job, right? And that ended up getting thrown out by the courts. But did you recall anybody marching in the streets from these groups then? I don't think so, but I could be wrong. Well, I'm slightly, I'm supporting and slightly different in terms of anti-Republic, and this is anti-country.

I think that the House leader was quite correct in saying this is anti-American, because when you connect with the dots with all of the types of rebellions that go on, where the subject seems to change, but it's always the same thing. it's against this country and that is what we're dealing with and we're seeing it more in this state because we've been californicated yeah well let's say what you will uh... the uh... there has been some pushback against president obama's remember his goal was to completely transform america transform the united states of america and needfully transform i think was the term that he was uh... was using at that point

and uh... expensive medical care Expensive power, because carbon, expensive everything, I guess. But anyway, why don't we... I agree. All right, let's set that aside. Let's have a bit of a pallet cleanser. And let's have a glass of wine. Eden Valley Orchard.

That is today's history. And then we'll get back to those grubby political things here. What's the story? I mean, it's a land claim back from, what, 1853 is where this came from, right? That's correct. And today is certainly different from yesterday. But you're right, 1853 Land Grant, where it was picked, which is amazing, was just between the two very small settlements that then existed, Ashland and Jacksonville. And Jacksonville was just a year after the gold strike.

But there's some really key names here, and it's still there. It's a beautiful place to go to. It's an incredible area. in 1885, although this is like a hundred and what, 60 years ago or so, you have Joseph Stewart who bought the land. Guess what, Bill? Is this the same Joseph as Joseph Stewart State Park, that guy? It is.

Okay. Also, what I was going into was the fact that he bought it from, guess who? Peter Britt. Oh. And when we talked about Peter Britt, and I said he's one of the ones that truly stands out of all the people that we've talked about or others that we have both talked to. Peter Britt was more than introducing pairs and stocks to this of Wetherman, all these different things. He was quite a landowner, which must have come from his photographer duties that he did

with clients who were wealthy enough to go ahead and hire him. Oh, well, back in those days, as you know, photography was an insane. expensive business and hobby. You know, in those days, the chemicals and the labor involved, it wasn't like you just hit the button on your phone now, right? Oh, very true, especially given the fact that in those days, earning a living as a photographer meant you had to be really good because everyone else was farming. But then when we got into it, following Joseph Stewart, about, oh, I'd say about maybe

20 years plus, he then sold it to another large, almost larger than life person being Gordon Vorhees. And Vorhees, which was raised, although raised in Kentucky, the key thing here is that he had married Helen Burrell. And where that name really stands out is this is the Burrell family that we know so well. And that's how Helen Burrell and Vorhees, were coming into Medford, if you will. Yeah, these were big founding fathers and daughters, I guess, or mothers of our era, right, of this area? Yeah, and you see, when we really build, when we look at what happened, Walter Burrell became acquiring additional lands, and that was his partner of Colonel Voorhees.

but they increase the acreage to 770 acres by selling orchard land. That's how they finance to their wealthy friends. But then we come into what really, to me, is the peace to resistance, which is about 100 years ago, they built the house a four-column mansion, seven bedrooms, seven bathrooms, six fireplaces, libraries, sunroom, numerous rooms, gables. It's an incredible house to see. and to walk through. And then what happened then is that it was in the Vorhees family for three generations,

and then it was then sold. But then about, oh, 25 years ago, the Vorhees mansion was sold to the Jackson County Pear family of the Roots, which is Sobroso. And this is where it becomes very meaningful to me, of course, because Anne Root, his wife, was actually a student of mine about 25, 30 years ago. And she was incredible because she was at that time driving in from Cave Junction. She was president. She was raising a child.

She was doing a lot of different things. And when you talk to her, you just say, Anne is going to go somewhere. So what they did both the two of them was that they went ahead and got involved with the fundraising for the holly. And there was an incredible, Bill, an incredible concert that Jim Volusci put on at Edenvale that I was fortunate to hear about to go to. The property itself is on the National Register of Historic Places. Beautiful place. Yeah. Oh, and you're absolutely right, Bill, because what's also happened is that from the fruit

those actually the carloads of pears and apples that were being shipped out, let's say, 100 years ago, you know, now you have the sounds of jazz, winery, tasting rooms, tours, and the sounds of jazz now fills the air. Now, Sobroso, you know, had made these paris, and it was a beautiful business decision. Yeah, who owns that now? Is that tip? I want to say tip-top. It's owned by Treetop.

Tree Top, that's it. Yeah, Treetop. It was sued, but it was sold to Treetop. You know, Bill, what was interesting about this is that one of the employees mentioned to the owners, you know, we're throwing away the coal. You know, this is the part of the fruit that's thrown away, you know, when you're going ahead and making it, let's say, into applesauce. So they said, we'll go ahead and make that into baby food. And then Treetop, you know, bought it in 2008. And, of course, that's a huge, it's actually a cooperative, but dried apple products, cereals, and things like that.

And so, you know, it's just an incredible story to me because of the community that Eden Valley goes ahead and puts on community events along with the fact of it's there. where you can go through and tour is a beautiful place. And also Eden Valley is the biblical Garden of Eden going back 175 years ago. Very good here. Doc, we'll get that all up there. Yeah, the post today for history, our local history point is Eden Valley Orchards by Dr. Dennis Powers. Dennis, I always appreciate that. You want to hang on for another segment?

We've got to get back into the dirty stuff, though. Okay? You ready for that? I'd love to. I'm waiting. Both of them are fun. Okay. All right.

Yeah, we've got a lot of doidey political. news that we got to get into. And we'll do that next on the Bill Myers' show. Stephen Westfall Roofing is growing. And you're waking up with the Bill Myers show. There's something, Dr. Powers. A lot of what we talk about ends up being that, you know, what's the latest on lawfare and lawfare response. I guess that's really what we're talking about here. It's so much of the news surrounding the Trump administration here. And what are the top stories grabbing you besides, you know, who's been indicted now like John Bolton? And How serious is what he's charged with?

Could you kind of break that down for us here? Yeah, this is viewed upon as being of, let's say, the three charges that we know about, including Comey, is that this particular one stands alone in the fact that it's very serious, not to say that the other two aren't, but the reason is, is that Bolton, goes ahead, and on dissemination of classified materials, here he was a National Security Advisor. And he was like, wasn't he like writing almost like his diary entries and sharing it with family members and such?

Oh, absolutely. And not only that, he goes ahead and he writes a book that's published in the judge in that a few years ago said, Mr. Bolton, I've got to warn you, although it's not before the court on this one, that this is, you are disseminating classified materials. He was even worn by a judge. And then Bolton... Well, was he like sharing this information with his family members? Like, here's a chapter of my book, or is that how it was, you know, disseminated?

He shared it with the public. He wrote a book. So even past that, which makes it worse, is just like with Hillary Clinton, with her 30,000. and emails that she got away with murder on again in terms of trashing her server, Bolton goes ahead and his computer is hacked by someone who, and then they're seeing the information coming up in Iran. So what Bolton has done was absolutely ridiculous. He was trying to do the Pentagon Papers to a certain extent. And that's why they had to raid his home. And Bolton was not only a critic of Trump. He was a critic of this country in terms of the way it was conducting its Army, Air Force, and Navy. Well, we are certainly allowed to be critics of how things

are being conducted, but we're also supposed to take care of classified materials. How serious do you believe, I mean, what is he really facing? There's what the prosecutors are charging, and then there is the real way that this gets dealt with in our politicized world. Do you have any thought on that? Yeah, the problem is, if you take a look at say, Biden-appointed judge that's going to be overseeing this. And, you know, thank goodness I am retired because if you're practicing law, you just can't go ahead and call it as it is. You know, five decades. You know, I saw how judges would go ahead. They're thinking about election. I find out also the worst people in Congress are the ones that used to be defense attorneys because then you take a look at their biography and you find out

right off the bat that they're appointed by Obama or, you know, by Biden. And they're good, great fundraisers. And I find some attorneys are really better than judges. What judges have, seriously, I'm not going to go after judges. What I see, though, is that they have the courage to make a lot of instantaneous decisions. Okay, but back to my question, though, what do you think he really gets hit with, in your opinion? Looking at the strength of it. Okay. There's two things here. He, I think, is going to be convicted because of the severity of his distribution. He not only held classified information bill, he went ahead and disseminated it. And with Trump, at Mirolago, he didn't disseminate it.

They were just using it politically. I think it's more likely that Comey, for example, might get off before Bolton does, because Bolton's dissemination really is what you're trying to preserve and not allow. Why do you think that he did this? I'm asking you to get into the mind of a defendant here because did he consider himself rather untouchable after what had happened last time around, or was there something else driving it, in your opinion? Sure, he thought that the chameleon would go ahead and be elected.

Oh. He probably went ahead and said, uh-oh, I'm in trouble as soon as he found Trump was elected. Oh, absolutely, because you can even see it now, Bill, the reason is, my friend, is because the fact that you can see the way these people who are out here demonstrating against this country are still in shock because they thought they had this country right by the trousers. Yeah, locked up. Okay, yeah, so I guess the ship of state, the cannon continues to roll on the ship of state, right, rolling back and forth, the loose cannon. Hey, let me ask you, that Supreme Court case that was heard the other day about the Voting Rights Act and in which we had the wise Latina bringing up the situation, talking about being black almost as a disability when it comes to voting, did you hear that? Are you aware of that, a predator's story? I was kind of shocked to hear that coming from a sitting Supreme Court justice,

but nothing shocks me these days, really. How do you see it? Yeah, I heard it. I kept thinking about it. I said, how in the heck did she come up with that analogy? And the only thing I can come up with, she was trying to make a point using the Disabilities Act, which is totally irrelevant.

Okay. So it's just one of those things where I'm just surprised to hear that coming from a sitting the Supreme Court justice. I would have thought that, you know, maybe your first year law school that would have been smacked down, just the logic of it, but I could be wrong. Well, he was a great fundraiser for Biden. Oh, okay. You know, she had, you know, she did well in terms of law school and things on this line, but she was an active radical. Do you see that case being successful, though, and what were they trying to, what were they asking for in this Supreme Court argument? Well, you've got to take a look very quickly two years, actually two and a

half years ago. There was an Alabama congressional map. And there, five to four, this is what's important, five to four decision. We had John Roberts, of course, on that, that upheld the fact of Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act, because the five to four decision, including Kavanaugh, being the D5 said that in Alabama, their congressional map likely violated Section 2 in the Voting Rights Act by diluting the voting power of the state's black residents. Oh, okay, and so if their success, but anyway, this case that went up before them is about overturning that or affirming it from the lower court? Okay, to answer that, what happens is,

we now look at Louisiana. It came through, and the lower court went and held and held that there was a violation of Section 2, which means is it likely to dilute the voting power likely to dilute. But isn't the real question, should we be drawing up voting districts based on race? Isn't that really the issue? It's coming up in terms of that concept, but in terms of the legalese, it's much more narrow. The problem then was that then Louisiana, to continue on in the case, went ahead and came up with a district that really allowed a black congressman to be elected. And the push then, I guess the implication being that there's almost like a quota system, right?

That we have to draw up the districts so that if we have blacks, they can only be represented by a black congressman, white congressman, that kind of thing? Well, it's a question of what percentage, what likelihood, which is an issue that says that you really should be able to come in within 10% of, what the population is between black versus white in terms of a voting district. But you see, the problem now was for Louise is to get back to that, is that what happens is that then the lower court says, no, no, no, no, it violates. You still haven't done a good job. They come up with a second district for a second black congressman, that then the whites go ahead and say, wait a minute,

And what about equal protection? Because if you look at the demographics, first of all, this likelihood that the Voting Rights Act is going into, it's still going to protect all of the civil rights of every... Yeah, but this is about redistricting because it's about how race is used in redistricting, right? Exactly. And it could impact the ability of... I guess it could reduce the ability to challenge redistricting maps, right, in which they're going to say, hey, it's up to the states, they redistrict the way they wish to, more or less, right?

Is that kind of... Well, what I'm thinking is... What's happening is that this is the case that is up on the Supreme Court, where there's several things going on. One is, you know, what do you do about redistricting where you have race involved? And on that particular question, if you look at right now, black population is what, about 13, 14%, and yet they have 16% of all the congressmen and women in Congress. That protection in the 1965 Act on voting districts... It would appear to be making it well.

It seems to be making, well, some people, all people are equal, but some people are more equal than others, is what you're implying here in this lawsuit. Especially with the far left animal farm approached everything during this crisis. Yeah. All right. Well, we'll just keep... The other thing is the extent to which you can redistrict, which the Supreme Court would rather just allow the lower courts to do, and the way that they could do this would be to go ahead and strip out this voting district language in Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act, and everything has supplies.

All right, well, in my business, in my benevolent dictatorship here, Dr. I would still just repeal everything about the Civil Rights Acts of the 1960s because it's essentially a faulty constitution that's been put on top of everything else. But no one's listening to me on that. Oh, but I agree with you because very quickly there, they have thrown out affirmative action, which was a similar concept for contracts and things on these lines. They have also thrown out the fact that, listen to this, Bill,

the far left was getting away with saying, you being any state that they didn't like a voting district on, you've got to get the approval of the Justice Department. Oh, well, once again, what about separation of powers on something like that? The Justice Department is not supposed to be involved with your district thing. All right. Well, that came in in terms of Lyndon Baines Johnson in 1965. Yeah, yeah, the judicial supremacism, all right. You know, all the rights are there.

They should have them. do have them. We don't need that language in the voting to hear. Well, let's see how Kavanaugh goes, because he was the swing vote. I remember you and I talking about that two and a half years ago. Yeah, I know. We'll see if he continues down his political, bisexual,

judicial bisexual rulings there. Hey, caller, you've been hanging on here for a while. Did you want to talk with Dr. Powers about something, or are you off-topping? What's the story, huh? No, no. Bill, it's your friend, Brad. Good morning. I really enjoyed what Dr. Powers I was talking about on the wine facility for the roots.

Your friend Brad actually built that for him 20 years ago. And that big white metal building and all that when they were just getting into the wine business, they were wonderful people to work with. Tim and Ann were just the best. But here's something that Dr. Powers will find interesting. That whole building sits on a four-foot lip because they wanted the ability to back trucks in. So they built the whole building at low. dock height. So if you can imagine, we had to put 3,000 yards of rock in to build the building

on top of, and we put that whole 3,000 yards in in just two days, Bill, can you believe that? Boy, that was a lot of truck work going in and out of there, wasn't it? Sure. It was all local people. We used Hughes Brothers that we bought the rock from. We used my friend Don Marshall to run the cat, but we put that whole lift in 3,000 yards of compacted rock in in just two days, if you can believe that. Man, there was some additional color on your Eden Valley, in your Eden Valley story there, Dr. Powers.

All right, thank you. Good work. All right. Hey, thanks, Brad. Appreciate the call. Doctor, good talking with you, too. I'm turning into a pumpkin, but we'll talk again next Monday. All right, you good with that?

Take care, and you have a good one. Best to everyone. All right. Thanks so much. And may lawfare not touch you, okay? That's the benediction that we will give you for right now. All right. It is 845 at KMED, 993 KBXG.

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A couple of things that Just totally personal I just wanted to mention this morning I had some people You know old vintage electronics tend to find their way home Through my Vanagan and me When you know people

Hey I got a lot of ham radio gear here You'll say Bill and I don't want it You want to go through this and so I did And I want to let you know that if you are someone who would want a CB, a CB radio and an antenna, I've put together two, at least maybe three little kits out of these ham radio parts and CB gear things that were given to me a few days ago. And I wanted to make sure they went to people who could use it for emergency communication. And so these are actual CB radios with magnetic mount antennas so they can be portable,

plug it into a car. I know it's vintage, it's old school stuff, but they still work, okay? And if you wanted to get one of those, and I have three available, absolutely free, I'm just putting them together, cleaning them up, making sure they work okay. Just email bill at billmiershow.com, okay? And I'll see if we can just do that. Just trying to move stuff along and keep things that work from the landfill. I am not a fan of the landfill economy.

If something can still be used and has some use at it, I will. pass that along. Absolutely free, by the way. I'm not charging anything. My labor is free for you, okay? Email, bill at Billemeyer Show.com. And in the process here with Markey Broadcasting West having purchased us a few weeks ago, and finally, I guess it closed maybe a day or two ago, I'm not exactly sure about this, but KMVU, Fox 26 is moving into us. There's been all sorts of stuff going on. And what has made this exciting and kind of a lot of work though, is having to go through the engineering area because new servers are coming in. They're going to be putting all sorts of stuff.

And so I've been going through equipment. You can't believe how much e-wasting I've been doing these last few weeks as Marquis has taken us over. And I think it's this great thing what's going to happen. It's just a lot going on right now. But I was going through paperwork, and I'm finding old stuff, old paperwork here. And I came across a bill from 2003. and it was from an engineer who worked here back at that time. So we're talking 22 years ago.

Tony Howell was her name. She's no longer with us. She's no longer alive. She passed away a few years ago. She was a great person, wonderful woman. And she was engineer in those days. And it just showed to me how much things have changed. This is from 2003, and it's a cellular phone bill.

and maybe we have forgotten just how much cell service used to cost around here. So here's an AT&T cell phone bill from May of 2003, and her monthly bill was about $318 a month. In 2003, we're talking 2003 for a phone bill, a cellular phone bill. it vary between $3.20, $3.30 a month, et cetera, et cetera, just the monthly service for AT&T digital back at that time was $69.99 a month. That was just the service. Okay, so you paid $70 a month in 2003, which would probably be the equivalent of paying, what, $125, $140 today if you were to adjust it for inflation. It's been a lot of inflation since that time. And so $70 just for the basics. You get $3,000. nationwide calling, ooh, yeah, nobody thinks that's a big deal, but in 2003 it was a big deal. And now, you did have unlimited night and weekends, but if you called during the business day, it was 35 cents a minute.

Every minute that you talked for business or whatever else, 35 cents a minute, and, yeah, 35 cents a minute, each text message costs a dime back then. and you think about how we just text message now and email and do all the rest. We don't even think about it back then, you know, at that point. And by the way, AT&T was not unusual. It was a big carrier around here. It was not like it was unusual. I'm sure U.S. cellular had similar plans, though.

So $70 just to have the cell phone at that time. $0.10 for every text message you did. Okay, you got free nights and weekends, but you can't do any talk during the business hour, during business days, forget about it. And like I said, $318 was her bill for, yeah, and Scuba Steve looking at me, and she had a flip phone. Yeah, it was probably one of those flip phone Motorola's, you know, at that point. Remember you had the flip phone Motorola that was about the size of an orange can or whatever

it is. You could put it on your belt, but that was considered portable at that point. Nobody would tolerate a cell phone plan like that today. but think about that how much that would be that $300 bill would probably be the equivalent of $500 today if we were still billing to the same equivalent so yeah some things have gotten better some things have definitely improved and gotten less expensive electronics and electronic services certainly are part of that but even if you are upset about how little you're paying right now because you still think it's too much well that's what we have Cherise for hi this is Bill Meyer

and I'm with Cherise and I'm on KMED. That's a rotary drilling company. I've got to half cut it off, all right? It's a 55 and change. By the way, gold and silver got thwapped a bit on Friday and they just came right back roaring, right back roaring today.

We're like at 2350 on the gold and silver. Last time I checked was over 52 or so. Yeah, so even though there was a little bit of, of a profit taking or moving some money out, man, it just came right back. Mr. Slammy came in, boom, slammed it down, and then, boop. No, we're still looking at this as being something you've got to do. Talk with our friends at Jay Austin and company Golden Silver Buyers if you're still looking to either buy or sell. Personally, I'm still thinking long term.

I'm still more of a stacker than a seller at this point. But one way, you talk with a recognized experts and they're going to help you on. By the way, don't go to those Gold Show road shows that they have. Boston has shopped them, and they pay more. So if you're looking to sell, sell with them, okay? 1632 Ashland Street and Ashland, 6th and G in downtown Grants Pass, Fortune Reserve.com. That's Fortunereserve.com. Todd's here.

Hello, Todd. How are you? You're going to help wrap up this morning? What's going on? Speaking of CBs and antiquated equipment, I was listening to your program when you did your last broadcast on the AM frequency 1440. Yes. And I want to commend you for all the years that you kept that running. That was a beautiful signal.

And you used to talk, I don't know if you were exaggerating. You were probably serious that a lot of that equipment dated from the 40s. What does one do with a powerful AM transmitter? Do you sell it to third world countries or sell it for copper? What do you do with it? Boy, well, what ended up happening is I took out usable parts that could be usable for other stations within our company, you know, still on A.M. And there were some things that could be used, capacitors, some coils, stuff like that.

The vast majority of a 1947 transmitter, though, is, unfortunately, it's electronic waste. I hate to say that, but it is so inefficient, even though the old transmitter kept us on the air. Our solid state transmitter at that time, that was a couple of years ago that it went dark, and we took it dark, had finally failed in the final few weeks. and so we were on the 1947 backup, and the amount of power that it took to put out a 5,000-watt signal was probably three to four times what our solid-state transmitter was. That was another question.

I was going to ask you, what off the top of your head? What would it cost to have run that AM, just your electrical bill for a month? Well, we were running it at a kilowatt for the final couple of weeks, and we were probably triple our normal power bill from just having our 5,000-watt main-day transmitter at that time. That just showed you, because, you know, you're... If you ever watched these old tube transmitters, and I even showed a bit of that on Facebook,

you know, you got these big filaments and huge power draw just generating heat, and it wasn't doing anything to get the signal out, but that's the way it was. But, hey, that was state-of-the-art in 1947. Well, my house has a beautiful, state-of-the-art, 1963, new-tone, radio, intercom, and phonograph system. Seven vacuum tubes, and it still works.

Still works? No kidding. Wow. And if you ended up having the, what do they call that, gosh, if we ended up having a EMP or whatever it is, that intercom would still work, assuming you had power. And your Volkswagen. Yeah, and the Volkswagen. Yeah, the Van de Goode will work there. Oddly enough, though, I still have one part of that transmitter that I did save from the e-waste, and I saved the oscillator from the old Gates transmitter. It's the original part that actually generated the 1440 AM signal, and it had a couple of crystals in it, and it was a high voltage little box,

and if you send me an email, I'll send you a picture of it. I still have it, and I got it working again. And you could turn it, I turned it into like a little teeny, low-power home broadcaster kind of thing. I, you know, run the tubes every now and then. And I kept the, I considered it the heart and soul of the old AM 1440, and I still have that, okay? Yeah, that was a good, that was a good broadcast, you and Dr. Powers signing off for the last time. It brought a tear to my eye. Yeah, well, you know, 90-something years there, and it was great, but, yeah, the days of AM radio is certainly numbered,

and there are not many of them left there for sure. But Todd, I got a roll, but I thank you so much, okay? Appreciate the call. And Markley, Van Camp, and Robbins are coming up here in just a moment. Good to be some great talk. And we'll continue with Pebble in Your Shoe Tuesday coming up tomorrow morning. KMED and KMED HD-1, Eagle Point, Medford, a marquee broadcasting West Station. It's 9 o'clock at KMED.

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