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Episode Date: October 25, 2025

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The Bill Meyer Show podcast is sponsored by Klauser Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausurrilling.com. Here's Bill Meyer. It is a delight having you here on Find Your Phone Friday. And I'm looking at the news cycle, and I have to tell you, it's like, you know, every morning I get up, you know, I'm doubting some coffee, and I'm trying to wake my weary eyes.

It was a long day for me yesterday. It was taking my mother over to a medical eye center because she has cataracts, big bad cataracts, and we need to get her sight back, right? And so she's been doing fine, so we went over there. By the way, before I even get into the news, medical eye center, I haven't been in there for years. The last time I think I was in medical eye center was probably in the early 90s when Dr. Imperia at that point put radial carotomy on me, and they don't even do radial carotomy anymore because you just don't do that.

better things to do now but my gosh what a machine that place is it's just like between the equipment and the personnel i'm just really impressed i got to tell you and after uh putting mom through a plethora of tests and talking about it and the medicare and all the rest of the things and then hopefully she'll get her cataracts popped out here in the next a few weeks although it's a little more complex i'm learning about all sorts of things like uh uh fuchs dystrophy which apparently I have too, you know, just an earlier version, mom has a later, mom doesn't mind me talking about this, I don't think, at least I'll find out. I'll find out.

Don't talk about my cataracts. Mom, you're 85, and we all love you, but, you know, some things happen, right? But anyway, we're getting that all fixed up. Anyway, so after that, it was a long day, and I went to sleep. I overslept my alarm, which I don't think I've done in about 15 years, and then made it in here, and I'm blarily looking at the news stories, and I'm just, I feel like the news cycle is on either methamphetamine or crack cocaine, some kind of wild drug-induced.

I don't know what you really call it here. Of course, this story was breaking as my show was wrapping up yesterday, but it had to do with the Trailblazers coach, Chauncey Billups. First, that's the one. That is the crack cocaine story here. in the state of Oregon. Apparently, Chonzie was a rain yesterday, along with a bunch of other people, for rigging poker games, rigging poker games, getting other NBA stars,

hey, you know, you'd like to play a poker game with, you know, with this particular NBA star, and then they rigged the games. And they had, like, x-ray machines on the table, and they were able to see what the cards looked like from the other side. as the marks, as the marks, the dupes, would come in. And then, of course, they would get cleaned out. And now, Chauncey, of course, has the assumption, presumption of indivison and all the rest of it. But I got to tell you, Cash would tell it all the rest of the crowd of the FBI.

They laid out a pretty darn good case that, well, I mean, we remember it wasn't that many years ago that the Trailblazers were nicknamed the jailblazers. with all the players getting in trouble. Now, I don't pay much attention to sports, so this is like, okay, all right, so it's a but it's a big criminal case. You got the Mafioso. Yeah, you're going to have, okay, you got to go out there and you got to get the face guy, the other NBA player, people want to go play poker with him. We got the game fixed.

Everybody gets a cut of this, and that appears to be the way it's going. 34 people arrested, including Chauncey Billups. and Chauncey Billups, of course, is on leave from the NBA, as you could well imagine, and now I guess it's next we see where this criminal case goes. So you have that story, it's just like, yeah, okay. But, you know, there is a certain case to be made about the corrosion of the United States culture these days, especially when it comes to sports. Now, like I said, I'm not much of a sports person.

I appreciate people that like sports. I'm just not one of them, right? But I couldn't help but notice as we've had this rise of all of these ways, this merger of professional sports and also professional gambling, that we were due this kind of thing, don't you think? Weren't we do this kind of scandal? And everybody's talking about, here's our sports betting thing, and da-da-da-da-da, we're doing it for entertainment only,

Oregon Lottery, of course, you know, gets involved to a certain extent of this. Betting, betting, betting, and everybody looking for the greater fool. You can almost say that about the current situation in the stock market, too. You know, everybody's looking for the latest fool that they can get a quick hit from. At least it seems that way, all right? Maybe that, maybe I'm looking too deeply into this. But do you think that perhaps the merger of sports betting, the rise of sports betting, just kind of gave rise to this kind of corrosion of sports culture.

That's one thing I would ask you this morning. And my number is 7705-633-77-O-K-M-E-D. Now, I don't know if Chauncey Billups is guilty or not, but certainly does appear to be a lot of smoke going on there. We'll just kind of leave it at that. But, yeah, that was one of our, you know, methamphetamine-induced news headline stories here from yesterday. And now we have the other one that President Trump

got a whole big serious case of indigestion over Ottawa, Canada. Ottawa Canada ran an ad. It was like a trade ad, and it had to do with, well, actually, it used the audio of the late President, U.S. President Ronald Reagan, and here's how it goes. And this is how the ad went. Trump actually ended trade talks with Canada because he's calling this a fake Ronald Reagan tariff ad. and he said that it was egregious

and we have the Ronald Reagan Foundation that is upset about the use of this too but this is the 62nd TV ad and everybody's getting all excited about and President Trump just canceled trade talks and here we go when someone says let's impose tariffs on foreign imports

it looks like they're doing the patriotic thing by protecting American products and jobs and sometimes for a short while it works but only for a short time. But over the long run, such trade barriers hurt every American worker and consumer.

High tariffs inevitably lead to retaliation by foreign countries and the triggering of fierce trade wars. Then the worst happens. Market shrink and collapse, businesses and industry shut down, and millions of people lose their jobs. Throughout the world, there's a growing realization that the weight of prosperity for all nations is rejecting protectionist legislation

and promoting fair and free competition. America's jobs and growth are at stake. Okay, that sounded like pretty much a pre-freight, a pro rather, free trade statement from Ottawa. Ottawa running this ad, I guess spending $75 million to run it over in Canada, right? And then President Trump says, Not only is he upset about this, President Trump thinks that Ottawa ran this, or at least is suggesting this, to influence the Supreme Court.

Yes, to influence the Supreme Court decision because his tariff powering is, or his tariffing power, rather, is up for review in the U.S. Supreme Court. And that's the part that just maybe kind of blink a couple times this morning. and I'm thinking to myself, all right, you try to tell me that the Supreme Court justices are going to pay attention to an Ottawa TV commercial over what the actual Constitution and the law says. I'm hoping that's not the case, but President Trump that doesn't, nope, we're not going to be talking anymore. And so just for fun, though, let's go back to the original Ronald Reagan speech. Now, I don't have time to play the entire five minutes, but I'll play three minutes of it, which I think is the pertinent part, and we'll just let it go. This was a 1980 address when he was talking about this and about trade matters, and we'll find out if it was so egregiously edited that it's a fraud or not. I don't know, but let's take a listen.

This is the first time I've heard it all the way through, too. Now, that message of free trade is one I conveyed to Canada's leaders a few weeks ago, and it was warmly received there. Indeed, throughout the world, there's a growing realization that the way to prosperity for all nations is rejecting protectionist legislation and promoting fair and free competition. Now, there are sound historical reasons for this. For those of us who lived through the Great Depression,

the memory of the suffering it caused is deep and searing. And today, many economic analysts and historians argue that high-tariff legislation passed back in that period called the Smoot-Hawley tariff greatly deepened the depression and prevented economic recovery. You see, at first, when someone says, let's impose tariffs on foreign imports, it looks like they're doing the patriotic thing by protecting American products and jobs. And sometimes for a short while it works, but only for a short time. What eventually occurs is, first homegrown industries start relying on government protection in the form of high tariffs. They stop competing and stop making the innovative management and technological changes they need to succeed in world markets. And then, while all this is going on, something even worse occurs.

High tariffs inevitably lead to retaliation by foreign countries and the triggering of fierce trade wars. The result is more and more tariffs, higher and higher trade barriers, and less and less competition. So soon, because of the prices made artificially high by tariffs that subsidize inefficiency and poor management, people stop buying. Then the worst happens. Market shrink and collapse, businesses and industry shut down, and millions of people lose their jobs.

The memory of all this occurring back in the 30s made me determined when I came to Washington to spare the American people the protectionist legislation that destroys prosperity. Now, it hasn't always been easy. There are those in the Congress, just as there were back in the 30s, who want to go for the quick political advantage, who will risk America's prosperity

for the sake of a short-term appeal to some special interest group who forget that more than 5 million American jobs are directly tied to the foreign export business and additional millions are tied to imports. Well, I've never forgotten those jobs, and on trade issues, by and large, we've done well. In certain select cases, like the Japanese semiconductors, we've taken steps to stop unfair practices against American products, but we've still maintained our basic long-term commitment to free trade and economic growth.

So, with my meeting with Prime Minister Nakasone and the Venice Economic Summit coming up, it's terribly important not to restrict the President's options in such trade dealings with foreign governments. unfortunately some in the congress are trying to do exactly that i'll keep you informed on this dangerous legislation because it's just another form of protectionism and i may need your help to stop it remember america's jobs and growth are at stake until next week thanks for listening and god bless you so there we go ronald regan from 1980 it does appear that the uh canadians took out the part that, you know, about not wanting to let, or you don't want to reduce the ability of the president to address tariff imbalances or trade imbalances. So it sounds like that,

but overall, the tone of President Reagan's speech did seem to be pretty much, you know, a free trader. And that's what I remember him being back then. I don't know. But President Trump is upset enough. He's thinking that the edited version of parts of that speech ended up that they were trying to influence the Supreme Court. I would certainly hope that the Supreme Court is not paying

attention to Ottawa television ads. What do you think? Was it egregious or not? What Ottawa did? The Ronald Reagan folks are very upset about that saying that we didn't get authorization

to use this. I know. Did you have to get authorization to use a United States president's speech, which was given to the public 40-something years ago? I don't know. You can kick it around if you wish. Free trade, free speech, we have it all here. 7705-633, and you're on the Bill Meyer's show. Murray, it's two in the morning.

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poker fixing scam. We have that. We have President Trump saying, Canada, no trade talks for you because they used a Ronald Reagan speech for 1980 to make the case for free trade. I don't know how that's going to go. And then President Trump worried

that it's going to influence the Supreme Court. Like I said, I'm hoping. I don't even know if most of the members of the Supreme Court would even know how to stream Ottawa television in order to, you know, before I make this decision, we better take... But we'll see. Like I said, strange news cycles here. Another example of a strange news cycle that I had to bring to your attention here.

And this is in Oregon Live, Oregon Live today. Portland Mayor continues to add overnight-only shelters in spite of empty beds and neighbor complaints. This is once again the response to the homelessness crisis, which, of course, I think, really, ended up starting when we said, hey, it's okay to take street drugs and stick a needle in your arm and hang out and sleep on the street. I think that's where this ended up starting it, but, you know, it's just, just me, okay? Um, Portland set to add another 280 recovery-oriented overnight-only shelter beds at a couple of locations in the next several weeks. And the neighbors, though, are very upset about this. Mayor Wilson saying yesterday, we're going to deliver for Portland,

And he says, we're going to deliver on our promises, and we're really going to focus on the turnaround that we all really want it in our city. And we have a lot of empty shelter beds. We hear a lot about that, right? You build all these shelter beds, supposedly to help the homeless, and they don't show up. In fact, there are, let's see, 20% occupancy in most of the city's shelter beds. 20% even though they have about 7,500 people sleeping on the streets. Now, Gillian Shone, director of the system coordinating the response to the homeless says, anytime you see this many empty beds each night,

the responsible approach for any of us leading this work is to take a moment to ask why people aren't willing to go inside and use these overnight-only beds? Probably because there are some rules. Mayor Wilson, though, says having several. See, this is the part which is like the crack-induced weirdness in the news cycle. Mayor Wilson in Portland says having several hundred empty city paid for beds each night is part of the plan. He says we never ever have to have full capacity because if somebody shows up at your doorstep that is in need, you have to trust that we're going to have a bed for them.

Now the cold weather is approaching and Mayor Wilson in Portland said those extra beds will be especially critical. He says, and you see all these individuals when it starts to get to be 32 degrees out, they're going to be at a place where it's miserable on the street. He says at the same time, we're removing tents and RVs from our community. And so these individuals, when rock bottom happens, it's time for us to be ready. And Wilson says they're going to have a stricter enforcing of the city's camping ban. All right, so I don't think this is bad, actually, but this is the part that maybe think that the mayor is an odd person. person. He predicts the worsening weather in the stepped-up enforcement will make people living

outside think, God darn it, maybe I'm tired of living on the street. This community really is caring for me. Maybe I shouldn't be here because it's against our community standards. This is the mayor of Portland talking about getting inside the heads of the homeless. Now, I don't know about you that any time I've observed the homeless community in southern Oregon, although I can't speak for our situation here, but I don't know if I've ever noticed, you know, like stinking and thugly, you know, talking on the side of the street,

going, you know, maybe we shouldn't be here because of community standards. Mayor Wilson can't get out of bureaucrats speak, but reading this deal about Portland saying, yeah the beds are empty but boy we're ready if they ever get filled someday even though we get 7,500 people still living on the streets and maybe they'll figure out that it's not up to community standards which I don't think I've ever heard any homeless person. I don't like being out here because it's against community standards. Heck, we have nonprofits down here that fight for the lack of community standards.

Yikes. I don't know. Hi, good morning. This is Bill. Let's find your phone Friday. You got anything to add to the weird news cycle? Good morning. Good morning. It's Vicki from the Applegatee. Vicki, take it away. You got a quick one here for news? Well, yeah, I just wanted to talk about President Reagan's speech.

Yeah. First of all, when he was in office, things were a lot different. The world has changed so much. So when you're talking about tariffs, it's kind of like a poker game. You're trying to bluff the other person. And to get what you, you know, for your country. what you need or whatever, but I think nowadays, if you didn't have tariffs to negotiate, which a lot of countries don't want to negotiate, so that's why they keep going up and up and

up. But if you don't have tariffs, how do you negotiate? Well, traditionally, the way that we thought in the United States is that you're not worried about the negotiating. The thing is, though, that we enjoyed low-cost imports, but, of course, course, you know, at the penalty of having problems with their own domestic industry, but it was also kind of necessary if you're going to be the world's reserve currency, your main export is currency. That's really the number one airport. In fact, that's still our number one

export. I'd be willing to bet you are dollars to the rest of the world here. So it's almost like you're not going to have a great domestic industry if you're going to be the world reserve currency ultimately. But... Right. But the world is so greedy now. I mean, all. all the countries are just, they, it's just all, and I keep saying this about so many situations that come up in the news and things that we talk about on the radio, it's all about the money. Okay, but I would ask you, though, is that the issue here is that President Trump is upset that they use President Reagan's words essentially against him, and I, yeah, there was some editing of that because it was only a 60-second ad, but is that, is that the reason why you

stop trade talks, though? Well, no, I think there should be talks regardless of what they're playing or who they're using as examples. But I think that's because the world is different. Reagan was very calm, very, like, he wanted peace everywhere. And I think Trump wants peace everywhere. But nowadays, you can't get it the way he got it back then. Okay, all right. I appreciate the opinion.

We'll keep talking about that, Vicki. And we'll hold the calls here for just a little bit here because I want to dig into another weird news story that has to do with the amazing reversal on peanuts. Okay, because like I said, it's fine your phone Friday and sometimes it doesn't have to all be the most super serious stuff. But we'll have that coming up. Also, Mr. Outdoors will be joining me here in a few minutes too on KMED and KBXG. Hi, this is Bill Meyer. Always appreciate you listening no matter the time. The Phil Myers Show on 1063 KMED.

20B47, Dr. Steve Goldberg joins me, and he is the chief medical officer of Diagnostics giant Health Track RX, and he's a big medical brain, one of the 100 most influential people in health care by modern health care for dedicating and advancing population health. He's a physician, respected health care innovator. Dr. Goldberg previously served as VP of Medical Affairs. Quest Diagnostics and HealthTrack RX. Before we get into Peanuts, I've got to ask you, HealthTrack RX, is that something that we the people like get an app and use, or is this a different thing? Doctor, tell us what that's all about first, and then we'll dig into the change on peanuts, huh? What do you say today?

You bet. Bill, good morning. HealthTrack's RX, as you said, is the leader in outpatient infectious disease testing. patients get access to our testing when they go to an office, an urgent care office, pediatrics, family medicine, women's health, and they present with a complaint such as, I have an infection. The clinician there will use our swab, collect the sample, put it in the box outside the door, gets picked up by UPS at 4, flown overnight to Louisville, and resulted out the next morning. And what clinicians tell us is that the next morning results help them get precise diagnoses and be very careful with antibiotics. Yeah, and that's the key because there have been a lot of problems with antibiotic-resistant infections going on out here. And I guess the claim has been, as I understand it, a lot of antibiotics being used or overused or misused in many cases.

Absolutely. Absolutely. When I started practice many years ago, resistance to an antibiotic was quite uncommon. Now, sadly, it's very common. And our test result gives the clinician information about several things, including what bug is identified and what antibiotic, if it's a bacteria, will work. So that's very important information in this age of many antibiotics being resistant. Okay. Now, we think about, hey, we'll give somebody some penicillin for something. Does penicillin do anything these days, given that it's a very old antibiotic? I'm just kind of curious. You think of these vintage drugs. It does. It has indications against certain bacteria that said there are some bacteria for which penicillin no longer works. And that's why you need information on a report that the doctor can use to then make a right choice. What are they using now for MRSA?

I hear really bad things about MRSA, you know, the flesh-eating kind of bacteria. Are they getting more and more antibiotic resistant? Well, believe it or not, rates nationally of MRSA, methicillin-resistant staphoreas, have actually gone down. Really? And we think that's related, yeah, to the pandemic. and people washing their hands more and using cleansers on their hands before interacting with others. So MERS has gone down.

That said, other types of resistance that have gone up, multi-drug resistant organisms. So those are bugs, believe it or not, that are resistant to at least three different classes of medicine, have actually gone up. So it's a mixed story. Yeah. Why is it that your doctor always tells you, now I'm going to give you this antibiotic, but I want to make sure you take all of it. Why is it so important to take all of it? That's related to a kill effect. You have to have a certain amount of the antibiotic in your system for a certain amount of time to kill the bad bacteria. Are we past the time in which you get a cold and you automatically think you need an antibiotic?

because I remember those days. It wasn't that long ago. It seemed that way. You know, you'd go into urgent care and, man, I got a... And they'd say, well, you must have a sinus infection and off you go. Are we kind of over that? We're not over that, Bill. According to the CDC, antibiotics are over-prescribed 50% of the time for respiratory complaints. And respiratory complaints are main reason why people come to a doctor. So we have a long way to go. And that's why our testing that can identify if a bacteria is there or a virus there. Yeah. For viruses, you don't need an antibiotic. And if there's a bug there, what antibiotic would be best.

Yeah. Okay. Now, see, that makes sense. So you have this health RX, or this testing health track RX, pardon me, that ends up doing quick testing overnight. I would imagine this is competitive and is it more cost. effective? Is that what happens with this kind of system? It absolutely is. We've actually done studies looking at several different types of

infection, pharyngitis, that's throat, upper respiratory GYN. If you use our testing, you get the diagnosis right the first time, and people aren't coming back for recurrent visits and recurrent treatment. Yeah, ultimately lower costs. Yes, sir. Yeah, and then, and And then looking at the battle over Obamacare and subsidies, anything that could help reduce the amount of treatment or unnecessary treatment would be pretty much welcome. Hey, I want to ask you, before we go on, and now since I have you here, do you have an opinion on this push on the government shutdown to keep Obamacare subsidies, the ACA subsidies, tax those tax subsidies going? Do people in the medical world have much thought about this or they kind of stay away from it? Just curious.

Well, I practice medicine, both primary care and urgent care, and affordability is a very significant issue for many of my patients. And the federal government has a certain support that they've done for the Obamacare program, and the concern is that that's expiring, and it could impact adversely millions of people. So as a clinician, I want people to come in. I don't want them to worry about the expense. I want them to get everything they need taken care of. Yeah, I understand that.

I understand that, except that this subsidy was always designed to expire. It was like a temporary COVID thing, but maybe what it's really an indicative or an indicator of Dr. Goldberg is that the insurance system is still broken, insurance system medical world, the way we pay for all this, wouldn't you think? Bill, that's, if you will, beyond my scope. Okay, all right.

Yeah, what I tried to do. I don't want to get you out of your lane. I'm sorry, I just thought I'd ask, you know, you're, okay, I'll set that aside. Let's talk about something that you do feel comfortable, Beth. How about that? And that would be peanut allergies for decades now. I've been hearing everybody say, don't take the peanut butter sandwich to school. You'll kill fellow kids with peanut allergies and allergies.

and allergies, and I just don't ever remember having seen many peanut allergies back when I was a kid in the dark, dank 1960s and 70s when I was a kid in school. What happened? Where did all of this come from, and why are all of a sudden, we're turning around saying, hey, it's time to give peanuts to babies? What do you say? I'd love to hear more about that. You bet.

Well, we're talking because there was a recent new study that showed that peanut allergy continues to decline, and that's great news. Okay, good. So let's go backwards. Back many years ago, a group of clinicians got together and put together a consensus statement that basically said, do not introduce peanuts, peanut powder, to children until age three. and what happened was that decision was associated with the higher rates of peanut allergy that you described. So an innovative researcher in 2015 said, I don't believe it, I'm going to do a study.

And they did a study where they took two groups and gave one early exposure to peanut powder, peanut butter, and look what happened. And five years later, those that got the early exposure had an 80% reduction of peanut allergy, 80%. Wow. That's a pretty impressive. That's an impressive drop with giving the kids early exposure, isn't it? Yes. So then what happened, the folks that write the recommendations got back together in both 2015 and 2017 and said, we're going to change our recommendation.

Early exposure is fine. early exposure mean? That means if a child does not have an established history of allergy, like really bad eczema, for example, you can at home at some time between four and six months, take about a teaspoon of peanut powder mixed with water or smooth peanut butter and start giving it to your child a little bit at first, maybe one to two times per week, and then see how they do. Certainly if they have a reaction, you want to to see the doctor, but in most cases, that won't occur. And if you do that, there's less likelihood of allergy in your child. That's really the results from that original study. And then

this recent study looked and continues to see reduction in peanut allergy in folks after those original studies, both versus those before. Well, this is good news. Okay. Yes. Yeah. So we're We've dropped peanut allergy by almost 30%, what's great. Now, we have room to go. Not all parents do this. Not all pediatricians recommend this. Not all allergists recommend this. So talking about it is a good idea.

All right, very good. Are there any other allergens that could be subject to a similar type study? Because apparently this was a well-done study, and it has been able to, well, I mean, it's backed up. It's backed up quite strongly. Are there any other allergens that you're aware of that might be revisited also? And let's say that if you have earlier exposure to these allergens as a child, that you'll be in much better shape as an adult. Well, I think there's the general concept now that exposure, when young,

and someone without established allergy, is more likely to be a, safe occurrence. So we'll likely see this more and more in the months and years ahead. I mean, it makes sense because when it comes right down to it, we were blessed with pretty darn good immune systems for the most part, right? And if you don't train it, then it may act, it overreacts as an adult, let's say, if you're not exposed to something early? Yes.

And good point there. again, you want to make sure that you're not someone who has, for example, bed eczema or demonstrated egg allergy or some other, we'll call it immune-mediated allergy process, big words there, but that's something identified by an allergist. So if you're not in that bucket, early exposures like they're going to be okay. All right. Is this also transferable the results of this kind of study, Dr. Goldberg, could you also transfer this to the, I don't know, maybe even the exposure

to regular environmental germs? Because for a long, long time, I've noticed this bigger trend that, well, he used to go out and play in the mud and the dirt. You got dirty a lot more often. And we didn't have the prevalence of antibacterial soaps and various other things. Everything, you know, has a clean wipe now

and we're going to wipe everything. is that's in some ways possibly causing more problems in which a young person's immune system never gets properly trained. I mean, along with the peanut allergies and various other things. I don't know if the two are an equivalent or not. Any thoughts on that? I would say, Bill, my general recommendations would be as follows. Handwashing is incredibly powerful. Okay.

And I would think about making sure our kids wash hands before I think about using bacterial static soaps. And I also would think about trying to minimize, if you will, manufactured food or heavily processed food. And I think those are a couple key rules for parents with young children to do on a regular basis. That is really interesting. So you as a physician are saying, hey, get away from the manufactured food or the highly processed. Boy, I'll tell you, that's a tall order for a lot of families because, from what I understand, 70% of the United States food supply is heavily processed right now. You've got to do some work, don't you? We all have to do some work, and that number is what I've read as well.

It's high. So that means when we can, fruit and vegetables, that means when we're using processed food, that means things that have to go through certain activities before they're put in a can or a package and you consume them. If you do use such foods, make sure there's not high in sugar or salt or stabilizing ingredients. And there are some soups and other things that you can consume that you'll do fine with as long as they don't have those features. All right, very good. Hey, just out of curiosity, so you want to give the kids some fruit. You give them the actual fruit, not the fruit roll up, right? That's the good translation.

That's the way to think of it. Bingo. Okay. Good going. Dr. Steve Goldberg, once again, Chief Medical Officer of Diagnostics giant Health Track RX, Kind of like the Amazon Prime of this. And by the way, what's your website so people can find out more about you? www.

www.healthtrackrx.com. All right. Really appreciate the talk and peanut away, but give them a little more exposure as a child that will help us all. And let's hope we get a little less of this. Do you think over time we'll see less of these warnings on everything saying, hey, by the way, contains soy or contains, you know, nut, peanuts, or prepared with peanut machines and things like that.

We'll be seen less of that over time because of what's been happening? Well, I think the health secretary feels very strongly about certain foods and certain dyes and concern about food and health in children. So I think we'll make incremental movement. But as you said, with high percentages of folks having certain diets, it's tough to make moves. And fresh stuff is often more expensive. So I think making little steps is a more reasonable way to think about it. Dr. Steve Goldberg, I appreciate the talk this morning.

Be well and keep diagnosing. All right. Thanks again. We'll talk. You bet. Bye-bye. Bye-bye now. 656 at KMED and 993 KBXG, the Bill Meyer Show.

Here, Jenny, you've got a food drive going on this weekend. Maybe a little Halloween fun. Is that what's going on? How are you? Yeah, it's a harvest festival, sort of Halloween, but not scary. Okay. Okay, so no scariness. All right.

Hey, the news cycle is scary enough, right? We don't need to scare the kids. It's true. We don't have scary. Now we're just going to have fun. Wet rain or shine. It's Oregon, so where are your rain boot? Yeah, and where's this going on?

It is at the double-e quarter horse ranch, 109-8-4 Meadows in White City. My daughter, Kim E-Walt, is hosting it. And all the activities are free for your children and YouTube. All we are asking, that every single person brings one can of food, at least, any kind of can food. It wouldn't matter. We're donating it to a local church. And it will be a lot of fun.

If it's rainy, we're going to have to have it inside the arena, so that won't be quite as much fun because it's an enclosed arena, so you'll stay a little dry. but we're going to have face painting and pumpkin painting in a jump house. Yeah, you also have some horses to look at, just curious. Yeah, you have lots of you. Okay, good. All right, yeah, because... Cotton candy, popcorn cupcake decorating, all kinds of fun stuff for the kids. And it's just for canned food to the people that are going to need it.

Yeah, what time are you starting that tomorrow? Start at 2 o'clock tomorrow. All right, 2 o'clock in the afternoon then. Very good. And this is... And it's with a potluck in the evening. All right. Now, could you pop me a quick email?

Bill and Bill and Myershow.com and I will put that information on my K&ED blog. Okay. We certainly will. Thank you very much. Thanks, Jenny. Have a great time and hopefully the rain will be away enough to have that maybe outside too, all right. Lynn's here. Hello, Lynn.

How are you? You wanted to comment on Dr. Steve Goldberg's conversation just a few minutes ago. Yeah. I'm glad to hear that peanut allergies are declining. one suspected cause of it is that some vaccines have been made with peanut oil, and then when you're stimulating the immune system to have a reaction, usually with an adjuvant of some kind, it can also make a person allergic to peanut.

That makes sense. Now, there are all sorts of adjuvants, and these are devices that rev up the immune system to supposedly get a better response to a vaccine. Right, and then whatever the immune system sees, at the time of the irritation caused by the adjuvant, it can react to. And I was just trying to find out quickly if they've been taken out. There's a pre-bunk out there that says that they were never in,

but there's also a whole book written about it. I didn't have time to look it up. Yeah, well, it would seem that if you already had a lot of generations of young children that had never really been exposed to peanuts because, well, don't expose kids to peanuts because it'll kill them, you know, that kind of thing, that sort of deal. And then you end up having peanut oil in some of the required immunizations. It could be an issue, right? Well, I think that don't expose kids was a reaction to the increase in peanut allergies.

Like you said, when we were little, nobody had a peanut allergy. And so, I mean, it's interesting that early exposure can help, but he was careful to say you can't have had an allergy in the first place. If you already have allergies, don't. Yeah, yeah, yeah, if you're already allergic to it, more exposure is not quite. going to help, but I can't help but think that, and I don't know if what a high school or what a school lunch looks like these days for a lot of kids because, A, we almost never had the school lunch that it was expensive, you know, back when I was a kid.

Right. And sometimes they did, you know, that was almost a treat. But it was almost always a peanut butter and jelly sandwich or something similar, you know. That's what I had every day my whole entire school career. Yeah, I know. And I couldn't help but think about that. Well, listen, we always had peanut butter and jelly, and then we also didn't see as many peanut allergies. So it does make sense that study that they're coming up with.

Yeah, but it may have been caused by an intervention in the first place, you know, that led to the increase. And then they're like, well, don't expose kids, which apparently didn't work. So, but anyway, and the other thing is you have to be skeptical of all studies because it's hard to find one that actually really is not corrupted. So I have no knowledge of one way or the other. Now, the doc said he had looked into this particular study, and he actually thought, I had read a note from him that said that I actually thought that this study was well constructed and well formulated. And so he's, but he was also implying that there's a lot of junk studies out there, no doubt. Yeah. All right.

Yeah, no, it was a very interesting interview. I just, and I don't know if he knows that or he doesn't want to bring up the radioactive topic, but of course I do. Yeah, everybody's like saying. All right. I don't know if I want to get in this lane. I'll just go into what I really know. And I understand that. I understand that. But I have to ask. I have to, you know, poke a little bit if I could.

Yeah. Yeah. Great hearing from you, Lynn. Thanks. And I hope you have a great weekend, okay? Yeah, you too. Bye-bye. This is KMED, KMED, H.E.1.

Eagle Point, Medford. I'll grab another call before news, and we'll have the outdoor report to a bunch more. Hi, who's this? Good morning. Welcome. Hello. Good morning. It's deplorable Patrick Bill.

DP, welcome to find your phone Friday. What's on your mind? I've got to be fast, Sam, at work. Hey, I really appreciate Lynn's input there, but my input is when that doctor was on the phone with you, on the line with you, and he said something like, we've changed our thinking on this. There's one thing he never did say. He never did say we were wrong. Well, yeah, I guess he did not. I guess he wasn't one of the people who came up with the original thinking.

He was talking about we as the medical, you know, the medical society. How about that? Well, that must be it. Yes, the practisers of the healing arts, Patrick. Come on. You know what I think, Bill, sometimes you're excessively fair. Oh, well. You know, it's a...

Fairness thing quite a little way. Yeah, guilty is charged, but your point is well taken, though. Appreciate it. I should have said, all right, okay, all right, all right, all you doctors that said don't expose the kids to peanuts. I want you all to say, after me, we were wrong, right? There you go. All right. Now you're coming in just right. Thanks, Patrick. Hey, Bill, I'll have you back. Okay. It's six minutes after seven. Fox News on the way here. We'll have the outdoor report. It's going to be a rainy weekend, a bunch more, and we'll see how that's going to play out.

Do we have a hunting season? Well, you know, I'm not a hunter either. I'd like to shoot guns, but not a hunter at this point. And at age 64, am I going to develop it? I don't know, but we'll find out. I'll bet you this is a good weekend for hunting, wouldn't it be? Yeah. We'll talk with Greg about that. Johnny Cash recorded I Walk the Line in 1956, and this...