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Episode Date: October 27, 2025

AI can predict your death time? Brent Franson is the creator of Death Clock, the new longevity smartphone app that predicts when you might die and helps you live longer. More calls follow including Mr. X with more on the PAC NW powers issues.

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Welcome. You were asking the question about whether Jeff Golden and Pam Marsh really want to, you know, solve anything and the governor and cutting down on the electric power supply that we have coming in, all these things kind of woven together. You know, well, I'm just wondering if they have thought it through to the point where the culture of scarcity that state power policy has been all about. Cliff Benz was talking about that on the show the other day, too. If, you know, at one point, if or when people die in the cold and or the heat because you

don't have affordable, plentiful power like we have had in the past, you know, do they realize you could get to that point, or is there always this assumption that technology will end up saving us from what technology has brought us or, you know, the political process has brought us, too. How do you see it? Well, it seems clear to me that they're deliberately leading us over a cliff. And what I've always noticed with liberal solutions is that their solutions, when they come in, you can't reverse them. In other words, like, for instance, they tear down the boardman coal fire power plant. Who's going to put it back together?

It's not as if you just mothballed it and let it sit there for a few years while you see if it works out, right? Yeah, and so it got me since we were talking Bible a little bit today, which I approve. There is a verse in Isaiah back in the Old Testament, Isaiah 3. where God says, oh, my people, those who lead you, cause you to err and destroy the way of your paths. Now, that's supposed to help us figure it out. And I'm with Mr. X. I think I understood. I'm always listening with one ear sometimes, always sometimes. And wasn't he saying that we need to get together and sue these people? No, actually, what he was saying, we have to be part of the political process. I don't think he was talking about suing, because remember, you can sue somebody

in Oregon, but what judges will you be going up against? Uh-huh. Yeah, a judge is appointed by progressive governors, largely, you know? Well, that's right, then the public put a process, because what they'll probably do, you know, after they get us, get rid of all of our electrical sources, they're going to probably try to do what California does. And of course, Oregon wants to be California so bad they can taste it. Down there, they've outlawed generators. Oh, they outlaw generators, really? That's what I have heard. Holy, boy, talk about forced scarcity, man. Well, thanks, DP. For scarcity. Yeah, we're not going to have power for you, and you can't generate power either.

Wow, I must be internal combustion, I'm imagining. I appreciate the call. Thank you, deplorable Patrick. Yikes, 12 minutes after 7. Hi, it's John at Walburn's weapon. Here's Bill Meyer. It's interesting. We're talking a lot about death and life, and gosh, what would it take to extend your life?

And last hour we had the authors of the Bibliot Diet on. They were talking about ways that you could improve your ability to hang around on the planet for a little while with some diet and changes done. And I thought that was pretty darn interesting. And now we have the other side of the equation. How much time might you have left? We never know, but there are some people putting artificial intelligence on the case of that. Brent Franzen, rather, is the creator of death clock.

It's a smartphone app. You can get it. You put it on your phone. And then you use it for predictions on when you might, well, pass and shuck the mortal coil, and it would help you live longer with some suggestions. Brett, it is great to have you on. Good morning, sir. Welcome. Great to be here. Yeah, this is, you're kind of perfect for Halloween week. I can't tell you because this is not really spooky stuff, but what gave you the idea to say, hey, I'm going to

come up with a smartphone app, but I'm going to be, well, predicting when you are going to take off the way it's looking like the way you're behaving. What gave you the idea? I mean, I think I realized how bad our health care system is at preventative health. It's terrible. It's a sick care system. It's great if you break your leg or you get diagnosed with cancer or something, but it's really bad at preventing us from getting disease in the first place. And I've got young kids. And so I thought, you know, I think AI is up to the task. And so we trained an AI on 1,200 longevity studies. You answer 29 questions. And it predicts two dates. The day you're going to die based on your current health. But also, how much longer it thinks you can live? It predicts a second date if you try to be healthier, and then we try to help you live longer. As an example, you put the, you answer the 29 questions, and then let's say, okay, all right, you're going to die next week, and then, okay, what happens if I lose 40 pounds, right?

That kind of thing, and then you can re-input it, that kind of thing? Yeah, exactly. So you answer the 29 questions. It predicts the day we think you're going to die. It'll never say next week. Oh. But then it does a calculation saying, hey, if you change some of the ways that you're living your life, it makes a second prediction.

And then you can get blood work. You can, you know, if you actually use the product, you can get blood work. You can upload health docs, and then the prediction just gets more accurate. Oh, okay. All right. And is it something which, does it cost something for a full report of some sort? I haven't had a chance to download it yet, but I'm intrigued by it. Nothing else.

You can take the survey and get your death date for free. And then if you want to trial the product, I mean, what the product actually is, we're trying to basically build an AI private doctor, so the best preventative health care in the country is done by private docs. You can trial it for a few days, and then it's about $100 a year if you want to use it. And that includes blood work. Oh, includes the blood work. When you have a independent laboratory, you send off your dealer, do you to go to a local lab to get it? go to a local labs. You can schedule at a lab core request and you can get the labs that includes a longevity report, a set of recommendations for supplements, cancer screenings, a whole bunch of

different things. It's pretty comprehensive of the functionality. Now, we want to make sure and talk about the right website for this because there are a lot of people who will put out like death clocks and they'll have like a little Grim Reaper kind of thing on it and put this in and they'll spit it out. Where do people really go to find your stuff? Yeah, it's a good point. We have a lot of copycats as well. So it's Death Clock AI on the App Store, Android. You'll see on the App Store we've got about 15,000 reviews and a 4.8 rating, or you can go to DeathClock.com. But yeah, you want to be, you want to be cautious. There are some, basically some fraudulent companies that are copying what we're doing. And so you want to make sure you find the right one.

DeathClock.com or DeathClock AI and look for the one that has a lot of reviews. Yeah, what did you find out? Because apparently I would imagine you took your own advice. And you probably used your own app. And then what did it tell you at first and have you made any changes in your life? Oh, I have followed it to a T. So I'm 43. And I feel like I'm pretty healthy, but I went and got on my blood work. And it's not that great. I have high cholesterol, high blood pressure, these things that were surprising to me. And so I've been following it to a T. I got a CCTA scan. You can get a CT scan to look at plaque. Yeah, yeah, what's, what's a C-C-T-A? I'm not familiar with that one. I've never heard that. A C-C-T-A would be a scan that actually puts a little dye into your blood, and you can tell you it looks at four different types of plaque in your heart, as opposed to a CT scan that just looks at calcified plaque. And so I'm grateful to not have any plaque in my heart. I just started

taking a supplement called Berberine that death clock recommended. And so, yeah, I follow it to a T, and I've gotten my life expectancy from 78 up to about 84. I just started taking berberine about two months ago because I'd read some research about that. And so I picked up some of that. How do you take it? I know they say normally you take it like a half hour before you eat your meal or something. Do you do it that way or do you just take it with the other vitamins, which unfortunately I am doing? I haven't gotten disciplined enough to think, okay, I'm going to eat in a half hour, you know, that kind of thing.

No, I take mine with the rest of the vitamins after my meal. So this morning I had a chia pudding for breakfast, and then I take about half a dozen vitamins, and I just added berberine to the mix. But on the vitamins and supplements topic, you want to be careful. Most vitamins and supplements don't have any research to back them, and they're no good. So there's about a half dozen that are great, and the rest should just be tossed. Okay, now you're telling me, though, you're eating chia pudding, like chia pet. The seeds that were on the chia pets back when I was a kid, that kind of thing?

Yeah, chia seeds with some protein powder, some granola, and fresh fruit. Yum, I guess. Is it? It's good. Yeah, I mean, the chia doesn't really have much of a taste. So it's, you know, we drizzle a little local honey on it, which helps for allergies and the granola. You know, if you're having a meal that's good for you, it's never that good, you know, cheese and carbs. ice cream, the things that taste really, really good, they're often that good, not that

good for you. So you want something that's semi-neutral. So you're kind of putting on the hair shirt a little bit, right? But you're, you're serious about this, right? Oh, yeah. Glad to hear it. What has been the most interesting thing you have found out ever since coming out with the death clock, the death clock smartphone app? You found out anybody talking with you, how they're improving themselves? What happened? I think what's, what's been most interesting thing is we have people who have private doctors, they will take, and this happened with me, they will take the longevity report that's generated on death clock to their private doctors, so somebody who they pay $1,000 or more a month, and the private doctor will say, this is better

than what we've been doing. I agree with this set of recommendations. Let's start doing this. I mean, for me, I started taking a low-dose statin because of death clock, but my doctor said, hey, I agree with the analysis here. Let's get shown a low-dose stat. Very interesting. Do you think that the private doctor is where we're headed? And the reason I bring this up is that I'm seeing what's happening with Medicare reimbursement rates just plummeting. I'm just wondering if it's going to get to the point where, you know, if you're on Medicare,

you're going to have trouble as time goes on trying to find a doctor that's any good to take you. I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong thinking that. I think it's just the economics. of being an insurance-paid doctor are pretty tough. You have to see a lot of patients, and so you only have an average about 15 minutes per patient. I always joke about my doctor, my primary being my imaginary friend. You know, you see them maybe once a year, that kind of thing.

Yeah, and so they're in it to help people, but they just don't really have the resources or the time. And so I think as it relates to preventative health, we're on our own. Private docs are not the answer. There's not enough doctors, and they're too expensive. They're not, huh? Okay. That's what we're trying to do with death block and say, hey, How can we create a preventative health platform that can help people at scale, that's affordable?

That's really what we're trying to do. We call it the Life Lab once you're in the app. It's not all about death. Well, it's really cool. Another thought-provoking take on this one. Death Clock is a smartphone app. Now, is it only available for Android? And so Apple, people, you just got to die or what?

What you're doing? No, no. It's available on Apple and on Android. Then once you have an account, you can use it on web as well. So, yeah, Death Clock AI, Deathclock.com, Apple and Android. Okay, deathclock.com. Hey, I appreciate the take on it. And thanks for joining in this morning, Brent. Good talking with you, okay? Be well. Thank you. Thank you. 724 at KMED, 993KBXG. Like I said, a couple of guests in a row here talking about various health ways.

One people, some people talking about it biblically, another person saying, hey, let's look at all the ways that we can help you also. I just think it's really interesting. 725-750-750-5-633, and you're on the Bill Myers Show. At Drake's Paints and Supply, we know your color because we know our community. Fuller's company, Pure Talk. This is News Talk 1063, KMED. And you're waking up with the Bill Myers Show. By the way, we had a listener email me asking questions about Creekside, Creekside Quarter, of course, a week from tomorrow that election will occur.

And then we'll find out if Medford City Council will have the ability to raise hotel motel taxes to help grease the skids for the Creekside Quarter Development, half-billion-dollar development in Medford. It's like seed funding. And this person asked me a question. I don't know the answer to it. And it has to do with, okay, this supposedly just starts the development. How about how does the ball stadium get financed?

And I don't really have the answer to it. And the website doesn't really for Creekside to explain that either. and so I asked Councillor Nick Carr to come back on the show at 8 o'clock. We'll grab him for a couple of minutes and get that question answered, and he was kind enough to come on, all right? So I'll just want to let you know. I have that comment, all right? It is 7.30.

And let me grab Kathy. Kathy's in Grants Pass. And Kathy, your son works for Bonneville in some capacity, right? He's an electrical engineer, yes. Good, good. Does he have all those of his eyebrows? He has. He does. Okay, so he's a good electrical engineer.

He manages the building and repairing lines. And they only, it takes like three or four years to get a new line approved through all of the regulation. So it's only when an emergency comes and they have to repair something that they can do it right away. And he says the grid is 50 years old and it's in really, really poor shape. it's all sailing and if you can get solar but he tells me that Bonneville doesn't come south

except they have one line going to Coup Bay and we get our powers from Utah which is coal power so if you think you're driving an electrical vehicle and saving the planet you're burning coal to run your car Well, I know that back when the EIA, the Energy Institute of America, you know, the government agency used to, they used to put out a clock that would show where the power was coming, and you would see a lot of that coal power stuff, and then they change the way they do it.

I think they're hiding it now. But we had hydropower coming down from Portland, so there must be an inner tie up to the Bonneville project in some form, isn't there? No. Now, I believe they're sending it to California because California pays way more than we do here. And it goes to Montana and that's your action. Okay. But it does not come to southern Oregon, so when your power goes out, don't blame Bonneville power. All right. I could swear that in the past there was some mix of, some mix of hydropower on our. on our grid down here too.

I'll look into that, but I appreciate the rest of what your son's also saying, though, how difficult it is to, A, get a new line put in, and B, the incredible age of what we are dealing with right now. And I thank you for the call, Kathy, 7705-633. And let me go to Ed. Ed, we talked to you on Friday a lot about these issues here, the official state policy of Oregon. And by the way, I wasn't able to get the information up on the website on Friday because the website was down during the transition to our new company. And so I will do that today. But, Ed, you wanted to add a bit to what we were talking about with power policy?

Well, yeah, and it was an interesting thing here, Patrick said, you know, we want to sue. No. The bottom line, it has come time, okay, for people to. to educate themselves to a point where they get mad and get mad with a purpose. And what we have in Oregon is one of the most intrusive, ridiculous pathways that have been etched in stone legislatively. And by the way, this has been an intentional policy put in place by state legislators. Well, it goes to your what you're talking about, carbon.

All of this stuff is interrelated. but it comes back to a centralized, simple foundational point. And what we have is a state legislature, Republican and Democrats, that over time have allowed and approved of these states. And that's why you see all of the older Republican candidates. Everybody is going along to get along. But the reality, the foundational principle of the Oregon legislature was etched in stone by saying that we want to reduce our country.

carbon output to free, I think it's 1994 level. Yeah, 1995 was the number I saw, but yeah, pretty close. Yeah. Well, it's right in there, the mid-90s. Let's just call it to midnight, okay? Well, the question is, all of you people in talent that might be hearing this, all of you people who want this to usher in this wonderful thing, well, this is based on a principle at Oregon is supposed to lead the way for the rest of the country.

let's do a logical deduction on that lead the way to what and well lead the way to energy scarcity ed it's what it is that's right there you go bill so what does energy scarcity give us energy efficiency and energy um how to say production and creating our society now we remove that and what do we have we go into chaos we go into no productive power of anything. And the reality is if you've got to count on electric heat or electricity to charge your car, you know, you were talking a few moments ago about hydropower entering the system. Well, that was the climate dams.

The climate dams produced enough power for 70,000 homes. Yeah. In fact, it was used as a peaker plant before it was torn down. When there was an extra demand for energy, they would get power from those dams. and now it's gone. Well, these people sit there and, oh, we got to remove the dams the largest dam removal project in the world, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But they did that without considering the need for additional input into the grid.

So now what we have is a group of people that are making arbitrary, ridiculous decisions to move ahead with projects that are damaging our society. we have to take a square one and educate ourselves. The CO2 production in the world, okay, is nothing compared to the natural CO2 production coming from underneath the ocean and underground volcanoes, all of these things. And to this day, you've got to ask yourself a logical question. Where do they monitor CO2 levels for worldwide CO2? At the output of a volcano in Hawaii?

That's right. Monola Observatory. That was the, and they changed it from a theory of building this thing so they could monitor the output of CO2 over the volcanic activity of monoloa, and the reality was they changed that to a global sniffer that they could say that CO2 is too high. Well, yeah, it's essentially being used as a cudgel with which to beat humanity over they head. That's what it's for. That's right. But what we have to understand is that our legislature in Oregon is taking a stand. They want to lead the way for the rest of the country to this new world. Well, if the new world is full of chaos, do we want our legislature to lead the way or force us to lead

the way? No. And so the answer is, though, is that we have not been part of this process. And you have talked about how we have not, and part of the process is not suing, because if you sue, you're suing against, and you're going to be dealing with corrupt, in my opinion, potentially corrupt Oregon state judges that have been appointed by progressive governors, who believe in this process. The other part of that, Bill, is the very simple understanding that if you sue for the wrong reasons, then you don't win. Okay, that's, that's just the simple reality. You have to understand what they've done. So I need you to help people understand how to react properly to this head.

Well, I'm trying to do that, though. Okay, as you know, my conditions have changed. I've got to, I know, I have limited time to be able to do this anymore. But for 12 years, we've thought. We've had incredible conversations, and we've transferred a lot of information. it's time where people have to take and start educating. I know that, but what is the process, Ed? Educating is one thing. You've got to do something, though. It's not just being aware.

We can't do anything about awareness right now. We have to go beyond awareness of our problem, okay? Well, Bill, it comes along like they did it with us. They did it with us through incremental steps, okay? They did took incremental steps on every level for years and years, years and years. And the reality is we have to start communicating to our representatives that we want to turn this around that is not necessary for a small state like Oregon, a small populated state like Oregon, to lead the rest of the country into a nonproductive

nightmare. We don't have to do that. There is no need. There's no rational need. All these people that have jumped on board with the CO2 train and sitting back with the, oh, whoa, The world is coming apart because we're turning up our thermostat to. Who are they to tell me how warm I want to be? Okay. Who are they? And the reality to it is they don't have to deal with it like that because they sit back and make themselves as comfortable as they want to. And what we have to understand is it's sitting back and under.

So in other words, the real global warming needs to be underneath the feet of the legislators. and the governor. When you look at, you know, okay, where... No, no, what you're talking about, though, is getting angry and commenting and doing it often and flooding the zone. Are you not? There you go, Bill. That's the thing.

You have to get angry enough to make the comment correctly. And you have to look at this. We have a participatory system. And where do you go to make the... What will you do, then? Where do you go? I mean, certainly you can tell your state. state rep to do it. I know as an example,

state rep, Dwayne Yonker is not going to have any problem with this, okay? He would agree with you. But then you have, you know, you have the, you know, Jeff Golden and Pam Marsh and all the rest of the people who are down this merry pathway. What do you do? Well, this is the thing. What we have to do

is start, we have to overwhelm the comments that are going in because they use this consensus based process, you know, which makes use of everything that they're teaching, through the university system as a state agency. And it goes back to the Hatfield School of the Wall. I get it. I don't care about that right now, Ed.

I know, we know how deep this is. Where do you go to comment? That's what I need. I did that. I did that on Friday, Bill. I gave you this stuff. You said you were going to post it. Okay.

No. No, but we're on talk radio right now. Where do you go? Where do you go on this stuff? Okay. Where we go is exactly what I said on Friday. and for people that didn't hear it or want to post it, you'll post it. The Pacific Power has a thing called the public input process.

Thank you. And it literally explains itself as you go there. You can start making comments. But what I urge people to do is read the existing past comments and look at who they're from. And when you start reading this stuff and understanding who's making. these comments, you understand that they don't speak for you. And a consensus-based process is literally unconstitutional if there's prior laws that exist or existing laws that say something different. They are intruding and your silence is your consent. So if you don't make the right

comment, if you don't educate yourself in order to make the right comment, so the first step boils down to understanding that part of it. That's what I'm trying to say. If you get to that point and you can... Okay, well, the thing is, Ed, I'm going to tell you right now, I talk a lot of the things. I don't want to, and I'm going to go to the website there. This idea, though, that I'm going to take my day and educate myself about this,

I don't think most people are going to do this. You know how daunting that sounds when you say that. You need to get here and educate and educate yourself, and it's like, you know, people, people aren't going to be you. You know what I'm getting at? I get... Okay, I understand that, though, but let me, let me ask you a simple question, okay? And the answer is going to be obvious. But what is more daunting? Trying to get through a week of cold weather without power or educating yourself so you can make the right comment. And if you have to do

it peace meal, do it five minutes a day. Do it 10 minutes a day. Take a few minutes extra and then go, you know, if we provide the pathway, I think people could read it and try to understand it. Okay. Why don't we just settle at that, okay? Hey, Ed, I got to go, but I appreciate that. And by the way, I don't mean to be hard on you, but it's just like I need actionable, you know, people are listening and they're asking the same question, like what, what, what, what, where, you know. So.

Well, that's what I'm saying. What I'm saying is one of the first steps, this is what happened with me, though. I'm just going through the steps that happened with me. When I started tearing the system apart and I started understanding what they were doing, I got mad. I got mad that these people were sitting in the background, manipulating and using a system against me based upon silence as your consent. Yeah, and while we can't be silent, that's all there is. Ed, I promise to get this up today. The website is working, okay?

So we'll kind of add a quota to what our talk was on Friday. I'll put it up on Friday's post and also do it on Monday's post too, all right? Thank you, Mr. X. Holy moly. Yeah. Now, by the way, I'm not being hard on Ann, but I'm being hard on him just to try to get to, hey, this is where we've got to go. Use the, at least, not only with our political representatives, but also in the public comment portion of the Pacific Power website. And that's what the information will disseminate today, okay?

744, and we'll be right back, happy to take your call, 770KMED. This is the Bill Meyer show. all roofing is growing now proudly serving brookings gold beach and the entire southern or boy we just got loaded phone lines this morning i'm always happy to bring you on fred's here fred coming up in a few minutes we're going to have a city councilor member nick card who's on that uh that creekside quarter pack and you want to ask a question i'd love to hear go ahead uh bill am i on yeah yes you are Okay, this is Fred, and I just wanted to bring up something.

I remember a while back, and I'm sure you remember, too, that talking about the Creekside thing, you got a phone call from some gentleman that he said he was with the Shriners. Do you remember that? Yeah. Actually, I actually think it was the Lions Club, but they had to do with land donation. And that was answered. Yeah, the land for down at Hawthorne was actually purchased. from Pacific Power. This was not

from the Lions Club. Okay? Oh, okay, because I thought, boy, I haven't heard any more about that, and I thought it was the Shriners for some reason. So I called the Shriners Commission in Medford, but nobody ever got back to me about it, and that's why. No, I think it was being

confused with the land donation for Prescott Park, East Medford up on Roxy End. Yeah, and that came from the Lions. I think that was partially from the Lions Club, if I understand correctly, but it is not Hawthorne. So there is no issue with whatever they want to do with Hawthorne Park. Okay? Okay. Well, thanks for clarifying that. Oh, you betcha. Let me go to Francine. Francine,

welcome. What's on your mind? Well, okay, Bell, so let me preface my comments here by saying, this is not some kind of a, you know, I know how to do this. This is not a how-to as much as a why not. There's a lot of people I know that could look into this and deal with it, I'm sure. I lived in a trailer for like nine years, okay? And aside from all the aspects of living in a trailer, one of the things that I thought was absolutely amazingly wonderful was the alternative 12-volt system. And my trailer would sit there and I would have 110 power coming to it all the time. And then when the power went out, I still had light. I had a refrigerator that worked on either 12-volt 110 or.

or that kind of thing. Basically, what I'm wondering is, why can't people... Okay, why can't your phone's giving me all sorts of electronic noise, Francine? Try one more time. Is this better? I hope so. We'll see. Okay.

In other words, the batteries were just being charged with 110 while you're hooked up. They're constantly being charged. My batteries, the trailer when I bought it, was like almost 20 years old, and the batteries are still working. And they're just getting a constant. I don't know if it's a trickle charge or whatever. But I have some alternative power. And the other side of that is all of our electronics,

they all have these little boxes on the power cords that are turning the 110 into 12, sometimes 9, but usually it's 12 volts. So basically, you know, some really smart people, I'm sorry I'm not one of them, you know, But some really smart people could come up with ways for us to be able to get by when we lose power and stuff like that. I know that it won't help with people that need their life-saving equipment, but that's when you turn on your generator or whatever. Yeah, yeah.

Now, there's ways around this. Yeah, well, yeah, there are ways around it. The point is, though, should we have to be investing in ways around it? That is the question when you actually have your leaders working at cross-purposes and forcing people to have to. work around it to keep reliable and affordable energy going, right? Well, I understand that point, Bill. However, the truth of the matter is, yes, we do, because they're not taking care of us. And they're really resistant to do their job and take care of us.

Okay. Would you be willing, as Ed is, though, to get involved in that public commenting push on Pacific Powers, public input process? What I would say to them, as far as I'm concerned. Well, what are you saying to me? I'm bringing up the idea of something that people can do to take steps to take care of themselves. Okay, well, obviously, you're not angry enough, though. You need to actually, no, you actually need to be reaching out to Pacific Power and saying your contract for this area here is to provide plentiful, affordable energy.

not finding different ways for me to live with with scarcity or to or to backup my 12 and and we all have to have uh jackeries or 12 volt backup services for our home you know okay but I'm going to tell you right now the 12 volt backup it's not something Pacific power is going to do for us this is no I know and I wasn't claiming that I wasn't claiming it the thing is though the point of having Pacific power is to not need that I understand but let's let's even pretend that, say, Pacific power was really good. But then we had a big horrible storm that knocks everything out. Then you still can have light. Okay, well, that's different. No, I mean, you know, emergency is fine, but, you know, what we need to stop are the self-generated emergencies.

That's what we're getting at here. I don't disagree with that, Bill. And I don't know if you remember, but I've often gotten very involved in some of our local activism. Yeah, no, no, I know that. That's what I was focusing on with Ed, this. morning, okay? Hey, I appreciate it, and thank you for your call, as always, Francine. Ron's in GP. Hello, Ron. Go ahead. Yeah, good morning. We have an existential threat to our military basis because they rely on the grid for their power. Well, they usually have backup power, though. They have backup power. That's temporary. So now what I'm suggesting is that President Trump put all of the mothball and or sources of

grid power into a trust and that they hold those developing sources in trust until a private company can come in and take over and provide a means to fill the need as needed as we've had in the past instead of this communist crap where they're trying to make us live in a small smaller box yeah what i don't understand though is if he has the legal authority to take private property, which, you know, like even Borman Cole, it's been mothballed and or dismandled. Yeah, but it's an existential threat to the military, and if the military goes down, how does America defend themselves? Okay, well, you've got to work on the legality of that aspect of it.

Thanks for the call, though, all right? 770-5633. I'll grab one more call. Yeah, we've got a lot of phone activity this morning. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Hello. Hey, Bill, it's your friend, Brad.

Yeah, Brad, go ahead. So, yeah, if you like taking 550 megawatt coal-fired plants offline, if you like tearing out hydroelectric dams, you're going to love power rationing, especially power rationing that isn't controlled by you. It's all controlled to your electric meter, and you don't get a vote. No, I understand that. I certainly understand that, and I'm not a fan of this. my point being though is this this is official state policy which has been driving this and that's where people have to you know you have to fight your own state in this particular case you wouldn't think you have to fight your state to actually do sensible things but in this case I'd

be wrong yeah cell Escavel when he was in the legislature when they were shutting down that when they when they reduced the particulate emission standards exactly so they would have to shut down the boardman plant. Sal Escoville predicted all this, and he says, if you keep pursuing this policy, you're going to run Oregon out of power, and by golly, Sal was exactly right. All right. Appreciate the call there, brother Brad. It's 757 on KMED. Nick Carr, we're going to call him up, get a couple of questions answered on the Creekside Quarter Development, and some people ask me some questions I can't answer, and so we'll try to go to some sources here, okay?