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Episode Date: October 28, 2025

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The Bill Meyer Show podcast is sponsored by Klausur drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausor drilling.com. Here's Bill Meyer. Delighted to have you here on Pebble in Your Shoe Tuesday. Pebble in Your Shoe Tuesday is a time for you to release the cortisol and just distress. You call something is bugging you instead of just sitting there and fulminating on it and stewing. Just let me know.

And maybe we can talk about a potential solution. I'm not sure about a solution that Jeremy told me about yesterday. I was running around town and ran into a Jeremy gentleman who works for an internet company here in southern Oregon. And he pulls out his phone. He says, hey, Bill, what is it with over on Highway 62 that there seems to be about 120 of those yellow reflector things being stuck to the sidewalk and to the center? and to the center, you know, concrete section, you know, the berm in between the lanes, you know, where they ended up doing all this work, probably millions of dollars or at least hundreds of thousands of dollars of work in order to put a super wide sidewalk out in front of the Rogue Valley Mall on Highway 62, that nobody uses or rarely does get used. And everywhere you're looking, and he's right, I had not driven out by the mall for probably the last couple of weeks or so for whatever reason. and I hadn't noticed it, but yeah, they stuck a whole bunch of those kind of like reflective sticks.

I don't exactly know what they call those things, and there seem to be about, you know, a hundred or more of them. Is it that much that everything has to be looking back at you and are people unable to see the concrete in the middle of the road or are they not able to see the sidewalk? Does anybody know, is that like a new code type thing in the road construction world in which we automatically assume that nobody can see anything? I don't know. Maybe it is just one of those minor pebbles of aging. Maybe they realize that the southern Oregon is aging, and hence we have older drivers, and then we don't know how to be able to recognize a curb. or maybe it's about making sure that the bums on the bicycles are able to see the curb and not wreck. I don't know, but I thought it was an interesting question.

I didn't have an answer for him, but Jeremy, hey, thanks for saying, hey, take a look at this. Have you seen this? No, no, I had not. We have a person called, speaking along that kind of line, blinded by safety. Bill, I wonder if there is something odd in the genetics of drivers in Southern Orleans. who refuse to dim their headlights at night or those who think you can't see them unless they drive around with their brights on all day. Does one even have control of headlights with the newer cars?

Maybe this is how a diamond-on-wheels virtue signals. How I long for the old days when drivers were just considerate. Blinded by safety. Thank you, blinded by safety. You know, it's even more interesting about that blinded by safety is, you know, there's a very strong possibility that they're not even using high beams against you. Those high-intensity discharge lights that they put in all the new cars,

especially that seem to have the angry violet blue hue to them or whatever it is, do seem to be designed to sear lines into your cornea. There is something about that. So it may not necessarily be high beams, but you are right in that a lot of the control of headlights have been taken over by automatic, automatic ons for a lot of. of the vehicles. And I would also add that many of them just automatically turn on just driving lights, just driving lights. So it's always on a high beam. In fact, that's what the driving

light usually is for most cars. They're high beams, but they're high beams on lower voltage, not to get too technical with you. They don't use the low beams for the driving lights. They use the high beam, but they turn it down and maybe they're not turning it down enough. But thanks for bringing it up. You see, that's it. Pebble in your shoe. And I can say, well, this is what I can tell you right now. But anyway, 7705-633. Let's take a look at some of the top stories here. President Trump in Japan right now and cutting trade deals and liking the new prime minister.

Everybody seems to be getting along just fine. And we'll be hearing about another half trillion dollars of investment in the United States economy coming from our Japanese allies. So more on that. Stay tuned, okay? Here, a little closer to home, this is an interesting story in Road Valley Times, Buffy Paul. writing about the story of Liam McPartland. I don't know if you recall this young man who was struck and killed June 5th. June 5th is where this happened in rural West Medford.

And they are going to, at least the Jackson County District Attorney's Office is planning to reopen this case. And what happened is that 17-year-old Liam McPartland, the family is saying that evidence was overlooked and misinformation was in the the original accident report. McPartland struck by a motorcycle the evening of June 5th when he was making a left-hand turn onto, well, it's old stage, old stage road near Madrone Trail Public Charter School is where this happened. And so how things got screwed up, I'm not exactly sure yet, but there were witnesses that had called 911, just a few moments before the crash happened.

And they were reporting a motorcyclist that was driving erratically, swerving back and forth and tailgating while trying to pass him. And then just a minute or two later, the caller slowed down and signaled that she was about to turn when the motorcyclist roared past her outside of the lane and then struck the 17-year-old Liam McPartland, who ended up dying at the scene. And by the way, Liam had the right-of-way. And it appears that what happened is that the motorcyclist wasn't wearing a helmet, according to a Buffy's story, as I can read it.

and he had a swollen eye and he was in bad shape and they didn't really take, they couldn't take a breathalyzer, but for some reason they didn't take a blood sample either, even though he did say, yeah, I have been drinking, but I wasn't impaired, you know, that sort of stuff, but there seems to be a lot of evidence that things have been screwed up. So Jackson County, D.A. is going to reopen that case. So I think that is good. That's good news. It's not going to bring Liam back, unfortunately, but we'll see where that ends up going. Morgan Live has an interesting story, too, that I think is, hmm, is this going to be a growing trend of stories? There was a do-gooder named Irene Gilbert. She's a retiree from LeGrand, had a lot of time on her hands, and she has been involved in trying to, to get this power line being stopped, a 300-mile power line that is, you know, going over five Oregon counties into Idaho. It's one of Oregon's largest transmission projects in decades, according to Oregon Live.

But this summer, after 20 years of planning, permitting, and lawsuits, they finally build this transmission line. They're now starting this. But Irene Gilbert, like I said, she's community activist. and she repeatedly challenging this Boardman to Hemingway project and she wasn't ready to back down and now she has discovered what she considers a switcheroo and I'm wondering if this is going to be a growing kind of story in the near future the lines co-owner remember this is that big 300

300 mile power line and we needed because as Cliff Pence was talking about yeah, the grid is old, the power lines are old, we have a lack of capacity, and yet everybody's wanting more power, right? You're supposed to put your car on the power line here, too, for that matter. But what Irene Gilbert is now saying, she found out that the lines co-owner, Pacific Corps, no longer intends to sell the power to its 805 customers, but to a private industrial user. Most likely a data setter.

Yes. So we can create more AI cat videos and things like that. Yep, a data center. All this work, all this money and all the power may be going to a data center. So much for helping our

power problems, apparently. Oregon Live writes to Gilbert, a longtime state employee with a fierce determination and a for interpreting inscrutable government policies. The utilities move doubly concerning. Not only would massive transmission towers, clear cuts, new roads, damage fish and wildlife habitat, remove farmland from production, yada, yada, yada,

the standard environmental bent. But the shift also allows a private data center to benefit from the line over residential rate pairs. Now, what will be interesting is to see how this plays out because Pacific Corps has eminent domain, has been given or granted the right of eminent domain to take your property if they needed for this power line. The only problem is that to take it for a power line is fine if it benefits the public in general, not to benefit one or two major corporations with data farms. See what you're getting at? So stay tuned. I think that should be a interesting story as we see this hashed out. It's like, okay, who's really benefiting? Are we going

through all of this and taking people's line, people's, you know, people's land so that open AI gets to benefit from this or invidio or some other, you know, high-tech bro, that kind of thing. It's not the general public. We shall see. Okay. 770563-770KMED. Another big story. I'm hoping they get rid of this government shutdown pretty soon. I don't think it is helping anyone at this point. I know that both Republicans and Democrats are thinking that, oh, yeah, this is, yeah, it's going to help us in the midterms.

No, I don't think it's helping anybody at this point. But the largest federal employee union is now pressing Democrats to end the shutdown. American Federation of Government employees has more than 800,000 workers, and they are now telling the Democrats, knock it off, get us back to work. Yeah.

Maybe they were thinking that having a bunch of welfare recipients get sporty starting this weekend. Maybe the Democrats thought that was going to be a winning strategy. I don't think it would be, but, you know, who knows? Team chaos, maybe team chaos thinks that having more chaos is a helpful thing. And Republicans are thinking, well, and all the people will see that they are hurting so badly that they'll start voting for more Republicans, which I've never seen any evidence of that. happening, at least in the state of Oregon, but that's our strategy, too, really, for that matter. Oh, but anyway, so there's a few top headlines.

Another interesting story that I want to talk about here a little bit, too, is what's going on with Chairman Xi in China. Chairman Xi in China, there are rumors that he is weakening, that the grip on power is weakening, and what could that mean? Interesting story, I'll share some of that here in just a bit. But it is pebble in your shoe Tuesday, so if you got one, hey, let me know. Hi, good morning. This is Bill. Who's this? This is this, Grono, Jay.

Oh, yeah, Jay. What's going on? Well, I do a lot of home remedies. I'm in the health food and stuff like this. Aren't we all? So I was just going to give you a little suggestion over the radio. Okay, well, just get right to it, Jay. Thanks. I never had jogged it before. So I looked it up, and it's a fungal infection. Okay, yeah.

And that's very tasty right now this time of day to be talking about. Great. What's your solution? Tried vinegar. That burnt real bad, had to wash it off. And then I was like, well, you know, I got some rosemary all there. I put about a sick of drop to that on there. Oh, that would burn, wouldn't it?

Real good. And then I watch that off. Now I've got a 120-year-old sack of penis now. Okay, all right. We'll kind of let that go, all right. Jay, I appreciate the call. Disgruntled. Stay disgruntled.

Yikes. Dave, I hope that you have a good call. Good morning. Welcome. Yeah. First off, your website's not working for me, so I can't listen to the show. But on Friday, I... Well, hey, just go to...

go to Facebook live for the time being, Dave. We're working on the website. I don't have login credentials for it, and I'd mentioned this on Facebook last night. I think this is all part of the transition to the new company, and not all the keys to the kingdom have yet to be transferred. So we're working on that, okay? Well, I understand that. All right.

So Thursday's meeting that I had with the county commissioner or the county supervisor and the fire warden and me and my neighbor. Now this was something that you've been working to get that road opened up at the back of the old Iron Gate estate said because you've been saying, and I would agree with you that it's been a danger to only have one way in and out of the neighborhood, right? Right. So we talked to them, and so far they've said that they haven't gotten a response out of KRC, anything. So, but what I need to do is we need to prove that we've had access. There's two ways to go for access. One that it's been driven on by us for seven years under the law. That

gives us a right away. Or if it's listed in the county records, and you can't look that up by the internet, I had a friend try. Yeah, my point is, though, I'm just trying to figure out how it got to the point where KRRC doesn't really own the right of way there, but yet they have shut this down. Did they shut it down on a basis of public safety concerns because of all the dam work, the dam removal work that have been going on there? I'm still trying to understand why they did this in the first place. It made no sense to me, Dave.

Well, they were supposed to open it up at the first year when they completed the dam removal, but they haven't done it, and we found out something. I found it out from the fire warden and the county supervisor that they were going to give the new bridge to the county, but instead they're holding on to it because they need to transfer fish from the current of the old fish hatchery to the new fish hatchery, because the fish won't go upstream, and so they're now deviating from the plan. Oh, so they have to train the fish to think of that as home?

Yeah, I guess. Yeah. But, you know. Maybe that's why we're getting all that magic fish coming up there that doesn't seem to make sense, given the turbidity and the cloudiness of the water at times. But that's just me. Yeah, right. So I thought that was pretty interesting.

And anyways, so I've got to go dig into the archives of the county because I know we have access because the law here states you have to have, well, when this development was formed and failed, they had two roads in here. Yeah. Well, I'm kind of curious about, I'm kind of curious about have the people in the neighborhood just thought about just cutting the locks on the gate? Well, there's a barrier that you would need a, in between where the old boat ramp was at. Okay, I was just wondering if there was any possibility of some civil disobedience. It's just like, you know, there seems to be a right of travel on that road.

I suggested it to supervisor, Jeff Harris and the fire warden, which, excuse me, I don't remember his name. You know, it sounds to me like Sisku County government. You know something, Dave? Is it just me or does it sound like Sisku County government is very loathe to challenge anything about KRC's doings in Clameth County? Is it or in Sisku County? Is it just me or what? Jeff just got elected and he's like to do you. Okay, I'm losing your cell phone now.

All right. Keep us in the room on that, Dave. Just pop me an email if you find out anything more about this. This has been more than a pebble in the shoe for people in northern California in that area. The shutting down of land and this kind of lickspiddle laydown to the interests around the dam removal. The dam's gone now, and they're still acting as if there's huge power. They, you know, involved at this point, they've been screwing it up anyways. Yeah.

All right. Dave, appreciate the call. Thanks for sharing your pebble in the shoe on KMED. This is the Bill Meyer show. Madford This is our This is Randall with Advanced Air and I'm on KMED

630 Coming up Kevin Starrant and I talking about some Oregon politics and what might be happening with the Measure 114 lawsuit A little conversation about that and also this push to have open primaries

It's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard and we have supposed Republicans that are signing on board that are signing on to this. We'll have that. Dr. Jane Orient MD will join me from the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons. She's posing the question on her latest Health Watch Post,

and she keeps up on this, that she's concerned that doctors who service Medicare, who actually work as Medicare doctors, are going to find themselves in even more financial pinching, and will we get to the point where you won't be able to, yeah, you'll have Medicare, but nobody will take it. that will have fewer and fewer doctors willing to take it, and we'll dig into that medical issue, too. State Senator Berchiger, we're going to be digging into the high price of beef. That'll be coming up.

And Chris Kirby, Chris Kirby calls me up. She's running for Josephine County Clerk. Okay? Why the heck would you want to do something like that? Something crazy like that? Well, let's see that. Oh, speaking of crazy. You've got crazy Jean or not-so-crazy Jean on Pabble on your shoe Tuesday.

Hello, Jean. You've got to provide some comic relief or what? What's going on? I'm going to make everybody nervous and upset. Oh, well, fine, fine, very good. I'm glad to hear that. It is Pebble and your shoot Tuesday. So what is it?

What is it? But I've heard that the book of Mary Maglund, which they have found parts of, proclaimed that Jesus had more than one wife. He had three wives, and he had children by these wives, which means there are children of Jesus walking this earth. Now, if true, that would be absolutely amazing. What is your evidence of this, though? Well, just the ancient writings, and the people that translated them

and tried to translate the different languages and what word means what. Yeah. And they found out that this is, in fact, happening. Well, the one thing I will say is that if Jesus had, if Jesus of the Savior had three wives, three wives, rather, three wives at the same time especially, and that would make him a Superman in my view, because I don't, you know, I've had difficulty, you know, keeping one woman happy, okay?

And, you know, the thought of anybody keeping three, four, or more happy is that you are truly a Superman, if you can do that, okay? Well, well, he was Jesus, and he must have earned that title somehow that he was a very special man. Yeah, that could be, and the other guy's going, yeah, okay. All right, now that, you know what's going to happen, though, that everyone, reading their Bible right now is going to think you're back to being crazy, Gene. Well, well, they can take whatever they want. All I'm reporting is evidence that I have heard covered by other people. Okay. Well, very good. It must be true. Thanks for the call, Gene. Have a good day. Okay. 633. No, don't call and yell me about that, okay?

Everybody's opinion is their opinion, all right? It's not my opinion. All right. We'll catch up on the rest of the news here. And then, oh, the hot, steamy Oregon pile of politics. And Kevin Starratt and I talk about that next. Getting ready to refinance or sell. News Talk 1063. KM.E.D. You're waking up with the Bill Myers Show. I don't know if playing that theme from the riflemen in the future will be classified as a hate crime in the state of Oregon or threatening behavior. But for right now, we play it loud and proud. Kevin Sterrett rejoins me from Oregon Firearms Federation, Oregon Firearms.org.orgonfirearms.org. So Kevin, welcome back and we got a little more than a week or two, I guess how long before we see the lawsuit, your gun lawsuit heading up to,

is it the Supreme Court or the, I forget where it is right now. You can re-explain what happened with that. Okay. So the state lawsuit against Measure 114, which is actually initiated by gun on those of America. You'll recall our lawsuit was, again, was in federal court. That's right. This lawsuit is in state court and is now before the Oregon Supreme Court. Measure 114 for people who, you know, losing track was declared, this is the measure to end gun sales in Oregon. It was declared unconstitutional by a judge in Harney County. The state immediately appealed. Of course, they did. With the appeals court, Rich said, no, it's absolutely constitutional. was kind of interesting. One of the things they said, you know, one of the elements of this measure is that it bans almost all ammunition magazines. And the appeals court, I watched the proceedings there. It seemed like they were asking some really insightful questions. Like they were saying things, well, wait a minute. Because the state's position was we can ban magazines because they're accessories. And one of the judges said, well, I don't think they're accessories. I think they're components. And I thought, well, that was an intelligence.

Yeah, that really was because it's difficult to have a firearm without a way to load the cartridge into the firearm. Right. But then when they reached their decision where they said that, in fact, Measure 114 was constitutional, I specifically said that magazines most certainly are arms, but we're going to regulate them anyway. So anyway, that was appealed, of course, and now it is before the Supreme Court on November 6th. So that's where it sits. And because the lawsuit in this case was based on, wasn't based on the U.S. Constitution, was based on Oregon's Constitution. So if we, if we meeting gun owners, lose at that level, then I think the only thing that can really happen is if this Ninth Circuit ever chooses to move, you know, that the, our federal lawsuit, we lost immediately with that judge.

Karen Emmergo, who also said that, you know, we can't have any National Guard in Portland because everything's just fine there. Yeah. You know, woman who... And by the way, supposedly 5 o'clock today, her order is dissolved at that point. You're like, it's over by that time, so we'll see where that's going. Well, you know, here's a woman who works in a building that's been turned into an absolute fortress who was ferried back and forth to work by armed federal marshals, telling us everything's

fine in Portland that apparently has, you know, never looks at a news source. worse. But anyway, you know, our case was she found it constitutional. So, of course, it was immediate appeal. And now it's sitting in the Ninth Circuit and where it's been for several years. And I believe the Ninth Circuit will, has no plans to act on it at all. So come November 6th, the Oregon Supreme Court will hear the case. And I don't think they have a deadline for coming to a conclusion or a decision. But I think it's unlikely. that they're going to reach a decision that allows concesses to continue. And yet, you know, we have all these decisions coming out of the Supreme Court about Bruin and everything else,

that the Second Amendment is a personal right, et cetera, et cetera. And the Supreme Court continues to smack its states that are saying, hey, listen, when we said that it is a personal right, it's an individual right, rather not personal, individual right. states like Oregon and Washington, California, and others, especially appear to be doing absolutely everything to ignore that court reality. Is that a fair assessment of what we're looking at out here on the West Coast? Well, it's not just the West Coast. I mean, it's courts nationwide. It basically just extended a middle finger to the Supreme Court.

And the Supreme Court said, look, here's how we decide these cases. And it was very clear. You know, it's parameters for deciding Second Amendment cases were not. all ambiguous. And yet the lower course have just said, well, we're going to ignore you. This is what Karen Immigate did. She just flat out ignored the Supreme Court. And this is why when I look at, you know, the outcome of court cases, it seems to me they don't really mean very much because our understanding of, you know, how the American system works is that once the case gets to the Supreme Court, they're the final decision maker on whether or not something

is constitutional. Yeah, they are the decider, not the Ninth Circuit, not the federal district courts, nothing like that. The Supreme Court is the Superior Court. That's why, well, that's why it's called Supreme, I think. Right. And it doesn't mean they're always right. It just means that there's no way of appealing it after that. But apparently, you don't have to appeal it. You can just ignore it. And there's been, there have been no ramifications for the lower courts that insist on just ignoring it. I find that kind of odd, you know. I mean, you're the Supreme Court, and granted, we have members of the Supreme Court

who are technically vegetables, you know, who cannot define what a woman is. But ultimately, they're the final deciders of these issues, and it doesn't seem to make any difference, the lower force, because this is how the left operates, you know. If the left doesn't like a law, it just ignores it. And when the left is in control, where we see, like, in Portland, the laws can be ignored. People who are obeying the law can be arrested, prosecuted, and have their lives destroyed, while people who are breaking the law are protected. And so it's kind of really, it's kind of anarchy, I believe, out there.

Yeah. It seems that I've detected, I don't know if you detected recently, but there is a different tone that's been coming out of coverage of what's been going on. with ICE as an example in Portland and I think it is because you know all of a sudden they're talking about oh isn't it horrible

for the residents here having to put up with the noise of the protesters and the and the gas and having to have gas masks and all of this you know this kind of you know complaints you know about this and it seems like but for the longest time there's been like dead stone

silence about what's been going on in Portland right and is it is it just because they're probably going to have the national guard troops there, and so they have to collapse and make it look real, even though they lied about it through omission the last few months? The entire way they've approached it is, you know, over the weekend, the police came and dismantled the camp that Antifa built, which had propane stoves. Yeah, but they could have done that 120 days ago, right?

Well, yeah, precisely, and that's my point, is that now we're all of a sudden we're concerned about residents and nearby houses, and we're concerned about people violating all these zoning regulations and, well, isn't it odd that we're just about to have the courts decide on whether or not the national argument? I mean, it's so blatant, so cynical, it's so obvious, it's so transparent. And as soon as the decisions made by the court, and of course, you know, the local attorneys are going there and say, look, everything's fine. There's nobody out there. It's just there's people doing salsa dancing. It's peaceful and loving. And Ron Wyden said it's peaceful and loving. And Maxine Dexter's here. Oh, but you forgot about the, ooh, pumpkin, you know,

for Halloween. You forgot about the Ooh Pumpkin comment, though. So the whole thing is a obvious, cynical, transparent effort to make it look like things are fine, which would simultaneously require any observer to look at what else is going on in port. And you can open up, you know, the webpage for the Haredonian, and it's just, it's nothing but a sea of murders and stabbings and car takeovers. And so, no, the city is completely out of control, but this implication, oh, well, we had one square block of issues. And look, we've cleaned it up. Everything is fine. Well, rest assured. And I see a lot of the people who've been down there protesting on behalf of ICE are saying, oh, look, we won. You know, Antifa's gone. Well, no, not gone.

They have a storage facility next door. They have apartments across the street, and they'll be back as soon as the court makes its decision. You know, if a national guard are not deployed, I guarantee you that there will be people shining lasers in people's eyes again, and female reporters will be getting attacked, and that you can take that to the bank. I got the impression that President Trump wants to break the back of Antifa, though. Would you agree on that, kind of the feeling I'm getting out of this? Sure, but the courts are going to decide whether or not he's going to have the ability to do it. And let's say that, you know, the courts in this part of the country have not been very supportive of any efforts to, look, we have a woman who lives across the street.

The housing across the street is subsidized housing. There's an older black woman living across the street who sued because she said every night these rioters are, it's an endless sea of noise. And, of course, bosses means that there's gas coming into my apartment. Yeah, yeah. And Portland Police Bureau will do nothing. about it. They do nothing. Well, the court of the police bureau are actually protecting these people. And so she sues, right? She sues and so, look, enforce the law. And the case is immediately dismissed by guess who? Ellen Rosenblum, who now, after leaving the job of attorney general, gets this gig as a judge

where she has to work one day a year and doubles or triples or quadruples or purses pension. And the case just gets thrown out. And the people who live there, who are just residents who are prisoners now, they're citizens of the city. So you've got this wimpy, effeminate mayor and all those leftist friends at the Augustina Lutheran Church saying how every resident of Portland is welcome, even if they're not documented, except if you're an actual resident of Portland whose home is filled with gas. Yeah, we don't care. We don't really care about you. We don't care about you. Because our police have been deployed so that they can stand and protect and for rioters.

It's, and it's not like this, this stuff is debatable. What's, what's bizarre is, look, politicians have always lied to us. We expect that. We expect Robert Wyden and Dexter and all this people who lied with us. But in the age of live video feeds from multiple sources, it's become more and more insane to see people like Dexter and Wyden lying and saying everything's fine, while the video feed right next to them shows what's actually going on. Yeah, it's very much like the CNN reporter talking about the

mostly peaceful protest with the flames burning on the screen next to him, right? Up on the... Exactly. And when you look at, I mean, I was just reading a story, I think it was probably in, I don't know, because we'll have it a week or OPB, it's probably OPB,

where they were talking about at the ICE headquarters, after a clarinet player was arrested. Like, like the person was arrested for playing the clarinet. Not a rioter who had a happen to have a clarinet with them, or maybe didn't even, but maybe who played a clarinet in another life, that's how these people described. So the cartel media is totally in the

tank for this stuff, right? Yeah, but I've noticed a different tone, though, even from the cartels. Is that because they get the, they get the message that Daddy's coming, or am I wrong to assume that? I have not seen that tone change at all. I mean, this clarity story was today. And, I mean, look, you're looking at this, I'm looking at this story today. Well, I was looking at a 16-page analysis about the problems with the people there. And they've never talked about that, ever, from what I could tell over the last few months of this, of this carnage. I hope you're right, but I think it's going to be temporary. I mean, you know, there's this story today in the, in the Oregonian about this Portland City Councilor, the fire started at

her house, right? Oddly, she's described in the story as a black Latina, and I don't know why that's necessary. I don't know what a black Latina is. I don't know why it was... Well, you have to find out where you are on the intersectional scale as to whether we're supposed to care about this person. Remember. But in this whole story, there's a fire at her house. So immediately, the implication is that it was a hate crime because she's a, you know, a progressive black Latina and a progressive black Latina kind of town, right? Right. They all hate her. Right. And so the press releases come out from members of the Oregon legislature. are heavily implying that, you know, this was, this was some kind of right-wing thought.

And, of course, the fire department said, well, wait a minute, we actually have no evidence of that at all. But it actually started, this fire, her car wasn't firebomb, it started in a shed next to her house. And then there's these old big references to the fact that, you know, she lives on a block with a lot of homeless people, right? Okay, so we had the homeless people set it on fire, and she's trying to blame it on right-wing wackos, right?

Oh, of course. Oh, okay. And I think it's Casey Jama, you know, the Democrat senator puts out a press release, like, implying that we're going to provide her security, right? I hope it's not from the Portland police, but we're going to provide her security when no one ever draws the conclusion that, well, maybe it was somebody in a homeless person cooking in her shed. So the media, I think, is still heavily heavily tilted. Okay. So I saw that one green shoot in the Oregonian that never had anything sympathetic to say about the residents around this. So I see that one green shoot, and I was kind of thinking, oh, maybe they're seeing the error of their way.

No. All right. Look, I mean, every news outlet from time to time slips up and commits an inadvertent active journalism. It happens. But if you look at the overall tone, it's still very much trying to defend and cover up. and lie about what's actually going on in a city where murders and burglaries and robberies are just out of control. Yeah, Kevin, I wanted to take it back to Measure 114 here in just a moment. Should we be preparing ourselves or girding our loins for essentially a shutdown of the gun industry in Oregon?

Do you think it's going to play out that way? Well, I do, and you can't, it's dangerous to predict what a court will do, but I look at the makeup of the court and I look at the makeup of Oregon. and I look at the makeup of how our judges get into office, which is all a giant scam. You know, judges don't get elected. Oddly enough, well, I'm a week yesterday, ran a story where they basically said it's good that they don't get elected because the voters are too stupid to elect judges. Oh, yeah, so we have stupid people who get elected as a governor then doing it instead.

All right. Yeah, that makes sense. It's hard to imagine that the Oregon Supreme Court, which is made up of bar-left activists, is going to come to any conclusion other than measure one. 14 should be enacted. But what if lightning strikes, right? What if they actually reach a conclusion that is in some way in line with the Oregon and U.S. constitutions? Highly doubtful, but it could happen. In the end, it probably doesn't matter because we still have a legislature, which, as we saw in the last session, is absolutely determined to do everything they can to end Second Amendment

rights in Oregon. You remember they had a bill that would have essentially shut down every gun or because it created requirements that virtually no one could meet. So if the measure doesn't pass, rest assured that the Broadmans and the Prasanskis and all these other pinheads will be back, and they will pass more legislation to essentially gut the right of the people to protect themselves against the criminals who they always make damn sure get out of jail in 45 seconds. Hmm. Do you believe, I'm just asking, we're speculating here at this point, is confiscation next? Like Canada? I don't think confiscation is next, certainly not on a national level. I mean, Canada's confiscation, that's been going on for 30 years. It's not going to happen on a national level because much of the country's moving in the opposite direction. You know, keep in mind, almost 75% of the United States now is constitutional.

carry. You can carry a concealed firearm without a permit. Yeah, and we used to have a pretty good concealed carry, a permit license or law here, which has been chipped away and chipped away and chipped away for quite some time. Yeah, and now it's largely becoming meaningless. Is confiscation possible in Oregon? Well, I don't think it's going to happen on a big scale, but certainly, look, they just passed the law last session that said all of these aftermarket specialty triggers are now contraband, right? Now, there's no grandfather. There's no compensation, meaning you own something that was legal yesterday. It's a crime to have it now. You cannot own it. And there's no legal way to dispose of it. There is no question that that is an unlawful taking under the U.S. Constitution,

but they did it. So if they could do that, and of course, if 114 passes or pass, you know, Yeah, then you're currently owned magazines right now become illegal if you take them out of your home. It's like, what? Not just the magazines, but virtually all shotguns. And this is that people keep forgetting is that the shotgun that grandpa kept in the corner of the bedroom or something that your kids go ski shooting with, that will be a crime. And so, of course, those will be subject to confiscation. It will be selectively enforced. So on some scale, I don't think it's possible.

I think it's actually quite likely. Hmm. We may be entering a time in which gun laws may finally start getting ignored. I don't know. Well, they are largely ignored in the inner cities. Here's the comical part. So, so Karen Emmergut, the judge who found this to be constitutional, her position is that it's perfectly okay to outlaw magazines to the law abiding because you. You do not need them. Meanwhile, I never recall having a bill of needs, do you? I don't, well, yeah, it's kind of what's happened in the last decade or so. But keep in mind that the magazines that she claims are only used for mass murders, which is a lie. The woman is a moron, okay?

Those magazines are totally available anytime to any criminal. And if you're a hood rat and don't mind getting in the car in 84, you can cruise into Idaho, buy them by the case with totally legally cash money, no kind of regulation. Yeah, no questions asked. Go ahead. No. Drive them back to the hood. Meanwhile, if you're a law-abiding Oregonian, and you have almost, you know, Midway, which is a supplier of firearms parts, is now refusing to ship magazines that have. have welded base plates because they're afraid that it might violate Oregon law. So if you're a law-abiding Oregonian, you are denied the ability to have the tools to

protect yourself and your family, while we've made damn sure that it's very, very easy for the criminals to access whatever they want. I can see many travels to Idaho in our future if this keeps up, Kevin. Like I said, it's all speculation at this point. But, yeah, if 114 really does get in, you know, enforced as it likely might, this is something to keep in mind. But that's okay. We do have our Republicans and Democrats getting together and agreeing on

some things that I'm sure will make life a lot better in Oregon. And that includes the latest one that I was telling you about. Sherry Helt and let's see, former Governor Ted Kulengoski have got together and there are two of three people who are trying to push a initiative to once again have open primaries so that Democrats can choose. the Republican candidates here that get to run in Oregon. Wouldn't that be great? Well, I want to correct something you said, though. You said that Democrats and Republicans have gotten together. Cherry Hill is a far left. I mean, she ran and got elected as a Republican

because the sick of fans in the legislature covered for her. The woman has always been a far left Democrat. I mean, she's at and a provable liar, okay? The woman is a, I mean, a mandatory Baxter. She's pro-bork, anti-gun, had a website while she was running for a bully commissioner that said, Trump is unfit to serve. And when we confronted her about that in a meeting, flat out denied it while we were looking at it on our phone, okay? This is the woman who was just recommended to the ethics commission by the Republican caucus. Okay, why would the Republican caucus take such a compromised Republican and get behind her? Explain this to me, please.

Why the Republican Party chair defends Cyrus Devati when he was voting with the Democrats all the time? And having the dancing drag queens coming in to the state legislature. Because they are utterly rudderless and they've been convinced after decades of being smacked around that the way to win is to act like a Democrat. I don't know if you can win, you know, in some parts of Oregon, you can win as a conservative. But overall, I don't know if you can win by having conservative values. But they don't win by having Democrat values. So it seems like it would be worth a shot, I would you think. Yeah, yeah, at least.

And if you're going to lose, lose honorably rather than lose over a lie, I guess would be the thing to do. Anyway, so, all right, I will make sure that even though I see an R next to Sherry Helt's name, that it is not it is not appropriate okay point well taken pro abort and all the rest yeah it doesn't sound like most Republicans here in this state Kevin I have look at who the front runner for governor the Republican governor candidate is now okay so we had a gal Daniel Bethel who was running for governor then Drazen comes along as we all knew she would sucks all the air out of the room she's a liberal woman just like the other last governor's race we had three liberal women running for governor

Now, chances are. I mean, Drazen already has massive contributions. One of the first ones she got after she announced yesterday was from Big Pharma, you know. And that is the Republican standard bearer in spite of the fact that, I mean, she votes with the Democrats regularly on issues that would outrage most conservatives. And yet this is the person that even Bonham, when he left office and his office had to be filled. He didn't get to fill that office. But, already virtually anointed her. She's in the House after having basically snaked the seat away from James Heave, a genuine conservative, who she kind of pretend was a Democrat, she immediately gets moved from the House to the Senate, knowing she's going to run for governor.

Why? For one reason, Bill, because if she's in the House, she cannot raise money during session. But if you are in the Senate, the rules allow you to raise money when you're in session, right? So I demanded that I'd be appointed, anointed to the Senate seat, a seat I have no intention of paying attention to because I'm running for governor, but by God I can raise money, and if I was in the House, I couldn't do that. Okay, well, I'll tell you what, when I'm looking forward to, especially in the new year, since we're almost at the end of this year now, we don't have many, just one quarter left here, is that it would be to make the Oregon Republican Party a true opposition party.

What do you think? Is that a good goal for 2026? It's a Cicissippian, I can't even say it. No, forget it. You know, when you look at the whole makeup of this has been going on for generations, like, why is the Republican Party in Oregon so utterly rudderless? And it's hard to really figure it out, except remember, look, you remember when Herman Bartziger endorsed Betsy Johnson and the, the Republican, party, sort of officially, unofficially censured him. Now, I didn't agree with Herman on that, but I didn't think it was in a rational position. You know, I thought, I thought. Yeah, he was playing wingman trying to split some votes away. It's what he was doing. Yeah, I mean, I, you know,

he and I disagree with that, but it certainly wasn't a position that was irrational. I mean, it was either that or a treason, right? So it kind of made sense. So the party immediately comes after him. Yet when two Republican senators, Hansel and Finn, openly, offered a law to make two other Republican senators criminals because they served as party leaders. Those guys got a free pass. Now, that tells you something about the Republican Party in Oregon. The Republican Party is a rudderless blob, and the Republican caucus are virtually all in the tank, with the exception of one or two people like Dwayne Yonker, who's constantly swimming upstream against college. Look, Jeff Halperch, which, was

a House rep who was in the running for the bottom Senate seat, the one that Drazen just got. Right. After she left, he was the House minority leader for about 30 seconds before he said, I can't work with these people anymore. And he said, I don't want this position. Then he starts campaigning for the Senate seat, which he's been campaigning and raising funds for a year. He gets snaked out so that Drazen can get in there.

When he could have, you know, she only took the seat for the money, okay? he had he been given the seat, could have run in the next election as the incumbent, which would have been an advantage. But she snaked him out of that, not that he deserves it, really, but the whole thing, it's all about the stupidity of the party and her ambition, and nobody ever moves ahead anywhere because all they want to do is when they don't want to implement any good policies. If the Republicans said, we're going to start having child sacrifices, but that's Republican policy, the rest of the Republican caucus would get on board because, by God, that's what the Republicans now want.

Yeah, because, you know, we can't do anything to clean up the Democrats. Democrats are what they are, you know, a corrupt major party here that's in control, supermajority control. But what we can do, what needs to be done is to clean up our own house here in this particular case, because you're right. It's, you know, the people who should be getting praised and elevated instead are shunned and ostracized. And it's exactly, it's an inversion of reality here in the Republican Party of Oregon, okay? Kevin, I appreciate the update on this one. We're going to keep an eye on the

Supreme Court decision. That's certainly going to be a big one, you know, the state Supreme Court and so much. And keep us in the room, okay? Thanks again. All right. We'll do that. Take care. Oregon Firearms Federation, Oregonfirearms.org on KMED and KMED HD-1, Eagle Point, Medford, KBXG grants pass.