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Starting point is 00:01:17 Cherry, how you doing this morning? You didn't call Eric Peters this morning during the wheels up, but you had a car story. I got to hear this first off, okay? Oh, my God. Well, in 1957, my dad bought an I-SETA. Now, the I-SETA was a BMW car. It's the one that has the little tiny motorcycle engine in it and a clamshell front, right?
Starting point is 00:01:39 And it would open up, right? Like a swing open. That's right. And it was very tiny. And I was very tiny, too, at five years old. And he put me in a clown suit. And all I remember is being squished in that little seat with Daddy going, well, it's going to be okay.
Starting point is 00:02:01 We're going to get lots of candy. And I didn't. I had to do a trick at the guy's door. I did do somersault. So your dad shoves you in the BMW I Seta in a clown suit, right? And you're thinking you're going to clean up on Halloween, right? Oh, yeah, yeah. So the first door we go to, the guy, I can say trick-or-treat.
Starting point is 00:02:21 And he goes, well, I want a trip. And I go, what? And he goes, you got to do a somersoll across the whole of my living room. And maybe I'll get, I didn't even get a treat. To a five-year-old? He says this? Man. Now, you then immediately toilet paper at his house, right?
Starting point is 00:02:41 Well, I hate Halloween. And I close up. I don't have candy. I just have razor blades. You know something? I'm not a big fan of Halloween. either. But I know there are a lot of people. I looked on my block out there. There are some people that have the huge
Starting point is 00:02:58 skeleton, you know, sculpture type things going on out there. And they just go all in. Not for me. Not for me. Now, listen, I called, not for that reason, but I saw a movie that I've never, I won't, I'm scared. Basically, I can't sleep now. It was with Demi Moore and Dennis Quaid in the movie Substance. Substance. It's an Academy Award for that movie.
Starting point is 00:03:28 And I thought, and I think it was on Netflix or something, I wasn't able to watch it, but it's recently come on the DISH area. Okay. And, oh, my God, I've never, the photography was incredible. The acting was, oh, my God. I mean, it was. It was something I will never forget, and I probably may not watch it again.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Okay. Now, this is once again substance, Dennis Quaid and Demi Moore. Okay, so this must be a little bit vintage, right, a few years ago, right? It was last year. Oh, last year. Oh, I didn't know that. Okay. Well, thank you for the review, though, but if you want to get scared, that's a thumbs up from you, right?
Starting point is 00:04:11 It's exceedingly scary, but it's very entertaining. It's not. It's very watchable, and I loved it. I loved every second of it, actually. All right. And thank you so much for that. And also the imagery of you in a clown suit in a 1957 Iceda. Okay? Yeah. Thanks. Thanks, Jerry. Captain Bill Simpson, he'll join me here in a couple of minutes. We're going to talk about acupuncture. I know this is a weird. You're going to really enjoy this. I think you're going to enjoy this story coming up.
Starting point is 00:04:43 This hour of the Bill Myers Show. sponsored by Fontana Roofing. For roofing gutters and sheet metal services, visit Fontana Roofing Services.com. For 95 years, PAR has been the Pacific Northwest trusted source for them. NetSuite.com slash Kim. Here, KMED and Krantz Pass on 1059, K290AF, Rogue River, in South Jackson County on 1067 K-294-A.S. Ashland. 19FRA, Captain William E. Simpson, ethologist, is joining me right now. for Wild Horse Fire Brigade. How are you doing, Cap? Welcome back. How are things in Northern California? Good morning. Well, thank you for having me. It's sunny, and it's a beautiful day right now, so can't beat it.
Starting point is 00:05:29 You know, I'm going to continue to poke at you on what is the real condition of the Klamath River that we're hearing about all the fat, happy, flapping fish that are heading up there now and that the river is cooler now because the dam is gone. And I'm just a little confused about this because you were reporting earlier that there is big mess and big dirt and everything else going down there. Has that changed? Has the rain brought more silt into the system? Or how do you evaluate it? You're living right by it all the time?
Starting point is 00:06:03 Yeah, my ranch is across the street basically from across the road, I should say. It depends who you talk to. You know, doubt the mouth of the river, of course, conditions are different where the Urock tribe is than it is up here, 186 miles away. And then the conditions in the vicinity of the dam, let's say, between I-5 Corridor and Copco Village, the conditions there are different than in other places, for instance, upriver from Copco Village toward the Oregon border. So it's complex. You know, when people talk about this, they cherry pick their data. They'll pick data from above Cropco and show fish that are probably not fluvial salmon. There are landlocked salmon up there, you know, up there by Clement Falls.
Starting point is 00:06:56 And then close to the mouth of the river, I'm sorry, close to the mouth of the river at the ocean, you still have the fish that came out of the tributaries before dam removal that are now returning. So when the dams were here, it takes like three years, four years at sea for the baby fish to go out there, get fat, and come back. And so the idea that fish are spawning post-dam removal in a majority of the main stem, I don't think is valid. I think that what we're seeing right now is our cohorts returning, you know, it's a year two. So it's just the beginning of the cohorts that were here prior to dam removal that are returning. And those fish were spawned in the tributaries below Iron Gate Dam. And so, you know, starting next spring and the following year, we're going to be seeing those cohorts returning.
Starting point is 00:08:01 And, but what's going to happen as far as the impact of dam removal on returning cohorts won't show up because there's a delay. It's a three-year cycle, roughly, okay, you know, some come back in four years and some go up other rivers. And, you know, some fish come from other rivers into our river. So it's a little messy scientifically. But there's, you know, it's a moving target. But I would say generally speaking, there's a lot of. remediation work required in the below Iron Gate, you know, dam because of the incredible amount of clay sediment that was allowed to leave instead of dewatering slowly over a
Starting point is 00:08:44 couple of years like they did up at Elwha Dam. Now, see, what you're mentioning seems to make much more common sense. So just because we have fish returning, those are fish returning, that were actually alive or were given birth during the dam period. And that's what you were saying, right? I just want to be clear about that. Yeah, right. Yeah, you have a three-year cycle.
Starting point is 00:09:06 So the little baby fish, you know, the egg and the gravel patches, and then the ones that don't get dead that make it all the way out to sea and then don't get eaten while they're out at sea come back. And it usually takes about three, four years for that cycle. Okay, so you have to look at the fish that they're seeing right now coming back in that spawned into tributaries, you know, shafts, the Trinity, et cetera, rivers that go into the Klamath. Those fish, they hatched when the dams were present and went out to sea.
Starting point is 00:09:42 So we're not going to see what's really going on until we get into the period when the cohorts would have been hatched and went out to see post-dam removal. Okay, yeah, because we're going to see how many spawned, survived, who made it down through the bad water, right? That's certainly something we have to consider, right? Yeah, yeah. And then the success rate of returning fish that are trying to spawn in the, you know, in a situation right now where the main stem is still plugged up with sediment in many places.
Starting point is 00:10:17 You know, you could talk to fishing guides like Mr. Kutski, who grew up fishing on the river his whole life. He started when he's 16. He's in, I think he's in his 70s now, and a professional guide and did a lot of guiding below Iron Gate Dam all the way down. And he went down the river the other day, and if anybody can smell a fish, that's the guy. He doesn't, you know, if there's fish, he knows. And what was his opinion going down the new Klamath or the new, you know, post-dam Klamath? What was his opinion about the health of it?
Starting point is 00:10:51 Well, he went down, I think, a few weeks ago, and he said that it didn't look good. And there was very few fish. And the fish, by the way, that do show up, I think, in many places are fish returning from the tributaries. You know, there are fish up in these tributaries that do come down, and they get into the main stem. They come onto the I-5 freeway from the off-roads, you know, and head out to sea again. So, you know, the bottom line is, it's very complex, and it's easy to cherry-pick. Okay, so withhold judgment there. it's really going to take two, three, four years to really know how it's looking, right?
Starting point is 00:11:31 Exactly. Okay, all right. I wanted to expound on something you sent me the other day, and you have an interesting science background, and it had to do with acupuncture and the RF soup that we live in. Now, we live in a highly microwave society this day. When I say microwave, I'm just talking about, you know, high frequency, radio frequency, energy, everywhere. I mean, when we were growing up, you had AM radio and you had FM radio and you had maybe UHF, TV, and VHF. But we had very little exposure to it. And it's different now in the
Starting point is 00:12:09 in the times of wireless internet and 5G, 3G, 4G, you know, all the rest of it. Cellular communications practically everywhere you go, licensed and unlicensed links. It's an amazing thing. But there's an interesting study or question being raised about, about, I just forgot the name of it, acupuncture, acupuncture, and RF energy. And I was wondering if you could tell me a little bit about that. It's fascinating. Right. So after my car wreck, I had a drunk driver come over out of his lane on I-5 and into the R lane on I-5 and hit me head on.
Starting point is 00:12:50 And it was a significant accident, 160 mile an hour impact speed, the combined vectors, you know, because I was going about 75, and he was evading police doing over 100 and a pickup truck. Yeah, when did this happen, by the way? When did that happen? Back in July of the year 2000. Okay. And so, you know, allopathic medicine couldn't do very much, you know, and because that had a phenomenal. amount of soft tissue injury. You know, I had no airbags in the vehicle I was in, and the doctors, I had a team of
Starting point is 00:13:27 doctors that were really good people because I had a lot of medical insurance back then. I was running an internet company. And so they said, yeah, you should be dead. There's no reason why you should be sitting in my office right now, because when you hit your seatbelt at 80 miles an hour, the impact is like getting kicked in the chest by a horse. Sure. You know, it causes your pulmonary artery to explode, and you bleed out internally because you hit that seatbelt, that chest belt, so hard. And then when you hit the chest belt, your head keeps moving forward at the same speed as it was, as the vehicle was going before, because all you've done is stop your body and your head keeps moving, and you sever your spinal cords.
Starting point is 00:14:09 So you basically, there's two ways you die in an accident when you hit something that hard at those speeds, which is why now the race car drivers have that little. that special little tagline going to the back of their helmets. They're trying to keep things moving. But be that as it may, you're connecting some problems with acupuncture these days at RF. And I guess you were using that for treatment, right? I just need to get to the meat of this. You don't mind. We're going to get to the point here really quick.
Starting point is 00:14:39 So, yeah, so I went in and I had a team of doctors, including an acupuncturist. And I started thinking I'm laying there with a bunch of needles. in my back. And it dawned on me that I was just like a human antenna. So I'm, I'm, then I went home after that acupuncture session, and I looked at the freer resonance of a 38 millimeter acupuncture needle. And it shocked me to see that they, you know, the freer resonance, in other words, they, and they, they, they're inductors for energy out of the atmosphere at the frequencies that are in the RF smog. And, you know, so we're talking. You know, 3G, 4G, 5G, all of those frequencies cause those needles to induct energy into the meridians.
Starting point is 00:15:28 Because the actual length of the typical acupuncture needle resonates or is the same. It is sympatico then with many of the RF frequencies that we are bathed in in our daily lives, right? It's just out there in the system. Well, that's right. And there's a German scientist, his name is Spiegel, Dennis Spiegel, who found that there's, in fact, so much energy out there now that you can harvest it just with an antenna. You don't have to plug anything into a wall or anything,
Starting point is 00:16:00 just with the antenna and some, you know, diodes and things. You can actually harvest the energy out of the free air and charge batteries. That's how much energy there is out there. So when you're talking about super low voltage, microvoltages in a human biofield and in the nerve channels and things where we're, you know, inserting acupuncture needles and so forth, when you start introducing that kind of energy, there are negative effects and there's some peer reviewed. There's, you know, a lot of what I discovered back in 2012 when I was researching it even deeper was. was that there's very little known about the impact of introducing these frequencies, although we do know it, that we even without the antenna, it greatly increases oxidative stress. So let's think about this then, because I know many people that will go and get benefits from acupuncture treatments,
Starting point is 00:17:02 and it makes a lot of sense. You know, we're working on balancing some of the meridians, you know, we're using, you know, ancient Chinese techniques, et cetera, or Asian techniques, I think, would be a better way of putting this. And it's not in the conventional allopathic, but there are people in the alopathic world that go and get acupuncture too. The question is, is there any evidence that the RF smog, which can then naturally resonate when you're being poked with little antennas when you're doing your RF or your acupuncture treatment, if there is a bad effect or potentially negating the good side of acupuncture if you're doing it around a lot of radio
Starting point is 00:17:43 frequency energy? That's what I'm curious about. Well, there's a study a guy named Rubik in 2002 determined that RF, I mean, I'm quoting, the RF induction at resonance is like 1.974 gigahertz, which is the freer resonant frequency of a 38 millimeter needle, could disrupt ion channels, you know, the sodium and potassium of myan shells and desynchronized biofield coherence and induced oxidative stress. So the thing is that, okay, acupuncture has been very effective for thousands of years, but as you pointed out, over the last, you know, 20, 30 years, we've introduced a whole bunch
Starting point is 00:18:25 of new kind of energy, and acupuncture needles originally were made out of different substances in steel. You know, stainless steel didn't come along until well after acupuncture. had been practiced for thousands of years. You know, they use bone and other things and wood, you know, bamboo needles. It was all kinds of different needles used. But when they migrated to, and they used billions of these needles a year, by the way, that's the most common length, 38 millimeter acupuncture needle,
Starting point is 00:18:56 the aggregate of the evolution of the technology migrating from other materials into metals in the acupuncture by the clinicians, and then the advent of RF smog, those two things together have now changed the whole, I mean, the whole world of acupuncture is now impacted, and we need to take another look at this because clinicians don't realize this is like the frog and the boiling water.
Starting point is 00:19:26 Well, yeah, well, think about this. Think about this, okay, you got the acupuncture needles in you, you got your little RF antennas, then you take your iPhone, You got it in your pocket or whatever it is, and it's always pulsing and signaling the, you know, the tower and this and that, the other. It would be interesting if there is more of a deleterious effect or a bad effect, then we may know, and people may wonder, well, you know, gosh, the, you know, it's not helping me out the way it once was because you're getting pulsed RF, you know, induced in the body via the needle, you know, the needles used. And again, we don't need to have the phone in our pocket, Bill. What Dennis Siegel found is that you can go out in just in the open field in near a city
Starting point is 00:20:09 and harvest energy right out of the sky and charge batteries. You don't need to have. Now, you bring up a point. Now you're talking about even greater energy fields, even closer, you know, people in the waiting room for acupuncture texting and talking or the people next door or whatever. So the point of this is, you know, I developed the technology that would change how those needles oscillate. In other words, the freer resident, you know, I have a technology. What do you do?
Starting point is 00:20:40 You put an RF choke on them in some way or something, radio frequency choke? No. No, no. And the idea is not, I'm not giving away the proprietary secrets. So I spent a lot of time. In other words, patent pending, all right? Yeah, yeah, well, definitely. But the thing is this.
Starting point is 00:20:59 You know, and now I talked to one clinician the other day, and boy, his eyes opened up wide when I filled these beans in his office. And I said, look, you know, I said, you can't be sticking those needles in people anymore because you're inducing. And like Rubik, that study from 2002 said it induces oxidative stress and interferes with ion channel. Which is exactly why you're not going to the acupuncturist to have. more oxidative stress? It's supposed to relieve the body of its stress. Right, right. Yeah, so
Starting point is 00:21:32 what I gave him a freebie. Now, the first thing I would do with a clinician is I would go into the office and measure the, you know, how much energy is in a meter of airspace. Oh, yeah, yeah, you can do that. What I would suggest, though, is that maybe some, let's say, some clinicians might consider building more of a Faraday-type cage. around the treatment center in order, at least where they're doing the acupuncture, in order to make sure that you have no stray energy fields going into the body. Right. What do you think? And that was what I told him.
Starting point is 00:22:10 I said, in the area where they have the table where they're going to have to construct a Thursday cage, or there are new paints out there that do act as a Thursday cage, you can just paint the wall. Oh, okay. And, yeah, in Europe, it's so bad. RF towers, cellular are so bad there's cancer clusters around these cellular towers. Well, the fact of the matter is, though, I know we were having these battles when there were battles over, you know, putting cell phone towers in schools and all the rest of it. The thing is, that battle has been lost. We have to deal with the reality of what we're doing right now.
Starting point is 00:22:50 People are not going to be giving up their wireless communications. We pretty much know that, right? And that's fine, and then they can deal with cancer. I mean, you've got to pick your poison, right? Okay. So, as they say, but, yeah, so they're, in Europe, what they're doing is they're just painting the outside of the houses with this paint. And it does shield the home, inside the home, it's RF-free. So this paint.
Starting point is 00:23:14 Yeah, and your iPhone doesn't work either, right? Yeah, nothing works. No, it doesn't work. So, but anyway, I'm just curious. Were you able to download that music? No, it didn't quite make it yet. What we will do, or did it? Oh, wait.
Starting point is 00:23:32 Okay, I'm almost out of time here. It did come up. All right. Okay, it's just three minutes. Yeah, I don't have time to do that, though. I'm running out of time. I can play a little bit of this song. Are you going to put this up on Wild Horse Fire Brigade?
Starting point is 00:23:45 No, we're not. I was going to debut it on the program today, and I kind of told followers that. Oh, okay. Well, it's 837. I am turning into a... Well, why don't you hang on just a minute? People will do want to come back, okay? I'll rewrite back.
Starting point is 00:23:56 Okay. Okay. So, another, is this another wild horse song? Another wild horse song you're going to make us cry? No, it's not a wild horse song. It's different. And it's a female singer. I got a computer female thing, my poetry.
Starting point is 00:24:11 Okay. So Captain Bill Simpson, poetry, we'll have a little fun with us. A pallet cleanser next on the Bill Meyer show. Stephen Westfall Roofing is growing. Now proudly serving Brookings, Gold Beach. Benny. This is the Bill Myers Show on one. No, 6-3, KMED.
Starting point is 00:24:27 19 before 9, back with Captain William E. Simpson. We normally talk Wild Horse Fire Brigade kind of stuff, but we kind of took a little detour this morning. And you ended up writing a new song, and it was really interesting when you did the, you know, the Wild Horse song. What was it, the Wild Stallion? That got just thousands of views. Actually pretty much went viral out of that. And so you've been composing some more. Isn't that right, Captain?
Starting point is 00:24:54 Yeah, I took one of my articles, and I created a female voice using AI to sing it because I can't sing, which is, you know, it's tough being a songwriter and you can't sing. But anyway, yeah, I just dropped it in and did some arrangements and came up with a song called Torn Apart. And it's kind of about the human condition, and I think it applies to all of us today living in the modern world. I'm going to play a little bit of this, maybe just through the first chorus, because I'm just running out of time this, segment all right but what I'm going to do is that since you sent me the file I'm going to post it on my podcast page okay I can make a podcast page on bill myershow.com and I will put that up when I get off the air and then people can download and listen to the rest of it how about
Starting point is 00:25:40 that would that be cool yeah that sounds great okay for people appreciate it yeah that's what we'll do and here's a little bit of it so torn apart so you're taking your poetry and doing some good with it, I guess, huh? Correct. All right, here we go. I rode up the mountain this morning alone, watched the sunrise to pave the stone, felt the silence, whispered through the past, and heard the truth between the lines we built. our cities high and wide but somewhere our hearts got left outside we traded stars for neon signs and called it living but lost our minds we're torn apart nature and man we've drifted so far from where we began
Starting point is 00:26:50 rain now we're chained to the wheel and we don't feel the pain there's a voice in the wind calling us back to the star but we're torn apart nature and then torn apart they say it's progress they say it's right but it steals our dreams and it dulls our life we chase that dollar Torn apart, and that's just the first part of it. I'm going to put that and post that up here. Give me about 10 minutes here, Captain Bill. I'm loving where you're going here. You're almost talking about the human condition and where it's sort of the wash of the technocracy taking over and beating the humanity out of us,
Starting point is 00:27:43 the humanity and nature. Is that kind of where you're going with this? Yeah, I mean, you know, and it's not too late to turn back. So there's a lesson, too, here in the song, and, you know, I think people will find it emotionally driving. I think people will, you know, I've got a whole meaning to the song written up, what it's all about. And I can send that to you, too, to go with your post. So I'll shoot you that right away. Yeah, shoot that to me right away.
Starting point is 00:28:12 And when I get off the air at 9 o'clock, we'll make this happen, okay? I'll get that up. I really appreciate it, Bill. Thank you. Yeah, I think it's, you know, it's, we need more, more songs like this because I know that I'm in the technological world. You're in the technological world to an extent to, and we all have our tools. But it's almost as if we're not being asked whether we want to go this way. It's just, it's almost presented as, well, this is just all there is to it.
Starting point is 00:28:44 You are going to accept this. You are going to take the artificial intelligence. You are going to integrate it, and this will be in and of your life. And you're – it's almost a protest, I guess, isn't it? In a sense, it is. And again, you know, if you're heading down the river and the rapids, you can always swim to shore and hike back up to where you were. Okay, very good.
Starting point is 00:29:09 We'll get that up there on – actually, I can't do it on KMEDE.com. This will be Bill Myershow.com, which is a, link that I have up there directly to the podcast page. We'll get it up there in just a few minutes, okay? Thank you. All right. Thank you. Captain William E. Simpson put his latest song up there. It's 846. From the KMED News Center, here's what's going on. Judges on the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals have voted to rehear whether a temporary restraining order should block National Guard troops from being deployed in Portland. Previously, a three-judge panel from the Ninth Circuit ruled troops should be allowed as the full case goes to trial. That decision has been vacated,
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Starting point is 00:31:49 It's the Bill Meyer Show on KMED, Southern Oregon's place to talk. 9B49-7505-633, and glad to have you here on Wheels Up Wednesday. David, morning. What's on your mind? This, David? Yes. Yes. That paint that he was talking about, I'd like to put, this, I, this, I, RF really affects me. When 5G came on, 4G3, I can tell when somebody's using it near me, my whole face gets burning almost. You know, it's interesting you bring this up, David. I don't have that issue, but it is a, it is demonstrable. It is well known that there are individuals who are much more sensitive to the RF exposure than others. Most people, and it may have to do with maybe
Starting point is 00:32:40 some of the natural residences of your body. I don't want to get off into the weeds on something like that. But, yeah, there are some people who get it more than others. In fact, there was an article, I didn't mean to interrupt, I'd just want to finish the thought. There was a woman who I, no, actually a man who wrote a book called The Quiet Zone. There are some people who are so affected by the RF soup that they move into areas. There's an area in rural Virginia. Yeah, I read about that.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Yeah, which because of the, where the, where the. Space telescopes are located. No RF, no radio, no broadcast facilities are located around it, and it's actually doing a booming business for people trying to escape that, people like yourself. Well, not to get off the weeds too much, but my mother could actually hear the frequency of an earthquake, earthquake, in the ground. I'm kidding. Really? I can, too.
Starting point is 00:33:32 That's incredible. I was in a room once, and I heard this thing, and I thought, oh, great, an earthquake coming. when climate falls had an earthquake, you get years back. And pretty soon the windows in the room were vibrating and shaking. But anyway, my hearing is, I wish my sight was like my hearing, but this paint, what about windows? Is the paint a translucent or something? I really don't know.
Starting point is 00:33:59 You might want to touch him with Captain Bill over at Wild Horse Fire Brigade to find out more about that. I really can't say. I can't say, but thanks for bringing me. bringing up the issue there. Yeah, what would you do? I guess you'd have to paint the RF proof paint over the window, too, you know? I have no way of contacting him, but except by phone. Oh, okay. Well, if you can't send me an email or call me after the show, maybe I'll, maybe he wouldn't mind me giving you the number. I don't know. I'll talk with him, okay?
Starting point is 00:34:27 Let's go to Francine. Francine, you're on. Welcome. What's on your mind? Well, just off the subject real quick, I was going to say for the gentleman that just called, there are also fabrics available that you can buy to make curtains for windows. So just he should look into that. Or we could just put tin foil on our heads, couldn't we? Well, we could you do that too, but it's much nicer to be able to actually open the curtain once in a while to see what's going on in the world. I get it. I get it.
Starting point is 00:34:55 I'm having fun with you. You know that. Well, I know that. Okay. So this is a comment about the movie Cherry Cherry talked about. substance, I think it's called? Yes, she thought it was really scary, but it was really good. I saw that many months back, and all I can say is why.
Starting point is 00:35:18 Why? It was disgusting. Oh, really? So we have a difference of critique here, huh? Oh, my good. Yes, yes. I mean, you know, no offense to Territory, because, you know, everybody has different taste, but I found the film to be absolutely disgusting in a big, why did they do this? Why would Demi Moore, who supposedly, you know, she's a really big star, why would she do this? All right.
Starting point is 00:35:40 Well, you know what this means now? We have to have you and Cherry Cherry in a mud wrestling match to come up with who's right about the movie, okay? Well, it's not so much who's right. You know, things appeal to people differently. It's like the person you fall in love with doesn't work for somebody else. You know, it's kind of like that. I love your call, as always. Thanks, Francie.
Starting point is 00:36:01 Let me grab another one here. Hi, this is Bill. Good morning. Hello. Bill? Oh, yeah. I didn't hear the buzz. Paul and William. Hi, Paul. How was life and Will. When World War II, Lucille Ball was reported to have picked up some radio signals because of the fillings in her teeth. It acted like a crystal set. Yes. So I suppose this sort of stuff has been going on since there's been radio waves.
Starting point is 00:36:25 Yeah, exactly. Of course, AM broadcast much lower in frequency in those days than what we're talking about with cell and wireless communication today. But yeah, you're right. I remember reading that story about Lucille Ball, and there were people that would have there be a little conducting in the metal fillings, you know, the metal fillings, and it would act like a germanium diode of the day. You're right. Oh, what's out there? We don't know. Yeah, yeah, weird stuff. Thanks, Paul. Let me grab one more. Hi, KMED. This is Bill. Who's this? Hey, Bill's Wild Simon. Hey, Steve. What are you thinking? Yeah. Being a ham radio operator, we talk about, you know, Faraday cages quite often. In order to make a functional fairy day cage, you have to close off all the holes that are larger than the frequency you're trying to deal with.
Starting point is 00:37:15 That's right. So painting a room might lower it some, but you'd have to fill, the door would have to be sealed up with. I mean, it'd be almost. impossible. You know, and that is the point, though, I think that what they're talking about, like the gentleman that Bill was talking about, the study with RF on the influence on the needles for acupuncture, I think it's the idea of reducing the exposure, and it would be next to impossible for most people to eliminate it entirely. I think that's where he was going to. Well, just for the treatment period, if you were going to make a place where there wouldn't be any RF while you were doing the acupuncture, it would, it would, it would.
Starting point is 00:37:57 It would require an extensive engineering to make that happen. Yeah. Yeah, you're in essence asking to make a quiet zone in your home or in the office, what have you, right? Yes. And one of the TV stations is putting up like a 5 million watt. I think it's 10 gigahertz transmitter up on Mount Ashland. Mount Ashland? 10 gigawatt?
Starting point is 00:38:22 I don't think so. Yes. Well, it may be 10 gigahertz, but. I know the guy, the engineer, that's working on it, and it might be five or six, but it's huge. And they're saying they're doing that because it will eliminate the need for antennas. Okay. So we'll all have antennas in our brain. Yeah, really.
Starting point is 00:38:50 I was throwing that in there. Hey, could you send me an email with that engineer's number? I'd love to talk with him and find out more. Do you mind? Well, you know who it is. Oh, I do? Yes. It's the guy with the PRA.
Starting point is 00:39:06 With the what now? PRA. Okay, I'll have to get back to you on it. For some reason, you're catching me flat-footed on this one. Talk to me off air, okay? We'll do that. See, now you're already getting the start on conspiracy theory Thursday a day early, okay? All right.
Starting point is 00:39:26 All right. Hey, thanks for that, Steve. All right. Ran out of time. We'll do our Diner 62 Quiz and Halloween giveaway tomorrow instead on Conspiracy Theory Thursday. It feels more appropriate, doesn't it?

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