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Episode Date: October 30, 2025

Frank Xu joins the show. He is Co-Chair Chair of Chinese Americans for the Constitution (CAFC) - Group is fighting PROP 50 in California which would destroy GOP congressman in CA. Open phones, D62 and more wrap the show.

The Bill Myers Show podcast is sponsored by Klausur drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausorrilling.com. It's not just a big deal here in Southern Oregon for Measure 15-238 for the city of Medford residents. It's also a big deal in California, especially the areas outside of the big power centers. There's Proposition 50, and Governor Gavin Newsom is, and I'm referring this, to the voters, and it could just completely up-end congressional representation here. We have a lot of listeners in Modoc and Sisku County in the northern part of California.

So I wanted to talk with Frank Zhu. He's the co-chair of Chinese Americans for the Constitution. Frank, it's great to have you on. Good morning, sir. Hi, Bill. Thank you for having me on. Tell us a little bit about Chinese Americans for the Constitution, first off. What are you thinking?

What are you all pushing, huh? Sure, sure. So we actually started, we just started after Newsom announced the proper 50. And we believe that as an American of Chinese descent, we have the responsibility to tell all the Californians that this is not the right way to amend the Constitution because proper 50 is just to amend the Constitution that's completely against the wheel of the Constitution itself. and against the will of we the people. Californians have voted twice back in 2008 and 2010 to say that, okay, we voters don't trust you guys, vote politicians. So the redistricting should be power should be on voters,

the individual citizen redistricting commission, not by your politicians. And the propensity basically says, no, no, no, no, give me this. so-called temporary one-time exception, and we will draw the maps for you, and that's completely against the will of the people. Now, I think about Congressman Doug Lamalfa, who represents parts of Siskew County, I think most of Siskew County, maybe some other counties, I'm not exactly sure where the district goes, but under Proposition 50, Gavin Newsom and Democrats essentially

would redraw the district to the point, and am I characterizing this? correctly, Frank, that what would happen under Prop 50 is that Democrats in California would then take a part of the San Francisco Bay Area, which is very unfriendly to Republican citizens of these northern counties, and then kind of muddy up the district so that it's impossible for anyone other than a Democrat to win it? Is that what is designed with Proposition 50? Oh, yes, yes, absolutely. So, uh, The map is definitely gerrymandering. It was rated F by a national organization who is monitoring the gerrymandering.

F is basically no path, and it's completely part of the map. Just as you said, it gays, it Mendel mixes the inland and northern counties with the inland and northern counties with the, coastal cities and just try to eliminate more Republican seats. Oh, yeah, and these different areas have nothing in common with one another. They're, I mean, yeah, they're in California, but there's nothing tying them together. It's not the same type of population at all, and yeah, it's just, man. Yeah, they don't care. Actually, Governor News has made it very clear, says, hey, he wants to do the gerrymandering.

He gets five more seats for the 2026 election. Oh, that's what this is about. 2026 midterms. This is about, okay, so that's why Proposition 50 is so important right now. Okay. Yeah, yes. So right now, California, you know, we have like 52 congressmen, and only nine of them are held by Republicans. So after the Propheant 50, if it was passed, then only four Republicans.

cities are safe. But, yeah, but that also means that five more for the Democrats, and we're getting very close then to upsetting that balance of power in Washington, D.C. That's what this is all about. That's the only reason they wanted to amend the Constitution. I was reading that people have been going after you personally, have they, Frank? You know, actually, and that you're having, you know, and here it is. we're hearing about how the Democrats in California are so inclusive and friendly and, you know,

and we like, we like minorities, especially minority voters here. It's been a little different for your experience as a Chinese American in this group. Yeah, only if you agree with their agendas, you know. So, as I said, I think we have the responsibility to tell the California voters that, you cannot disrespect constitutions like that, because we had the first-hand experience. You know, in China, the Xi Jinping just amended the constitution, so-called amended the constitution to eliminate the term limit and see what they are having right now. They have a dictator.

Yeah, yeah, he's now leader for life, right? Yeah, for life, for sure. So, but for the, for those radical leftists, they said they are. you know, anti-racism? But no, they just directly told me and told some of my other fellow Chinese Americans go back to China. And that's something racial slur. They're against. So Democrats telling you this. All right. The polling doesn't look good for this, though, right now. I know you're fighting to put down Proposition 50. Who's voting for this? Is it just Democrats? What about women and men? How are men and women breaking down on this?

Yeah, the latest PPC polling doesn't look good. I don't think it's separate voters by men and women, but for Democrats and Republicans, I believe the Democrats are 84% voting yes, and the independent are 55% voting yes. And the only trick, you know, in California is they just say, hey, this is the way to fight President Trump, you know. Oh, so that's what they're – this is basically just an anti-Trump and anti-Trump in getting rid of his congressional minority, which is pretty slim, right? Or majority. It's a very slim majority right now, just a few seats. Exactly. Very slim. And I have to say, California Democrats are very sneaky. And quite many voters, unfortunately, you know, they suffer the unaffordability of living costs in California,

and they still think fighting Trump is their highest priority, which is unbelievable. Yeah, by the way, I wanted to ask you, Frank. I'm speaking with Frank Zhu, who's the co-chair, rather, of Chinese Americans for the Constitution. Frank, how is Gavin Newsom, Governor Newsom, able to still have any political support whatsoever, given the cost of your power there, which has been part of his gang-green agenda of reducing affordable power and replacing it with a lot of chaotic and expensive renewable energy right now? How does he even manage to keep that support? And you know he's going to run for president. You know he's going to do that in three years, no doubt. Yeah, yeah, no doubt.

And the reason is, you know, for me, it's also concerning because I came from a background of the, you know, in China, you know that? So in China, the newspaper, the media, you know, they unanimously advocated for the Chinese Communist Party so that many people living in China thought, you know, they're still thinking that China is in a good shape, but actually it was not. It is not. So the same thing is happening in California, you know. So the Democratic Party controlled all the newspapers and controlled the educational system, you know, from K-12 to the colleges. And they just keep repeating lies after lies, you know, from diversity, equity, inclusion, from anti-racism, and from rewriting the history of America. and that actually changed a lot of innocent minds, and that's indoctrinating. So you're told a lie long enough and often enough, and it ends up becoming the truth in your mind.

It's not all that different here in the state of Oregon, too, maybe to a lesser extent, but, you know, they may be friendlier lying about it in Oregon than maybe California. I don't know, Frank. But, right, so you guys are going, so you're all going out and going door to door, trying to convince people. It's like a grassroots thing because you're only down to the last few days, right? Yeah, yeah. We, that's completely grassroots. And we actually have a little bit over 150 volunteers. And we have already delivered 65,000 door hangers and try to convince the voters in the middle and let them know, don't do that. It's going to be an attack to democracy to our Republican country.

Good luck on this, Frank. Is there any way we can help you? Do you need funds at this point? Do you need door knockers or door walkers? What do you need? Yeah, thank you. Thank you, Bill, for the offer. And yes, we still need funds.

We will still have a deficit. But if any of the listeners want to help us, please go to our website, www.ca4C4Constitution.org to help us. Thank you. Yep. C-A-F-C-A-F-O-R Constitution.org. Chinese Americans for the Constitution know on Proposition 50. Final question I have for you, since you did come from Communist China.

I was reading an epic times the other day, and I was, in fact, I even talked about it this morning in which they're saying that Chairman Xi is actually not nearly as strong as state media is pretending to be. and they talked about what happened, a big meeting, about 10 days ago, in which I think it's called the plenum. They called the plenum meeting, and that most of the generals that were supportive of Chairman G. were purged out of this, and these were generals that were very much hawks on reuniting with Taiwan, okay? and that they've been replaced with people who would be somewhat more moderate. Are you aware of that? Have you kept track of that story or not? Just curious.

Yeah, I'm aware of that. But I have a very different explanation about that event. You do? Yeah, what do you think? I probably would believe that Xi Jinping has the absolute control over the country and over the army. and the fact that these generals were purged, it's not because he's not going to invade Taiwan, but actually he is very close to invade Taiwan, and he's going to purge every single general who is not going to go along with him, but, you know.

In other words, you think this is a head fake, in other words, so to speak? It's not a fake. It's just how the power was. back in China because it's a dark box, and everyone can just guess. And my guess is she has the absolute control of the country, and his next step is going to invade Taiwan. All right. So if he wanted those generals that may have supported them in the past gone, it's because he wanted them gone, is what you're saying?

Is that it? Right. Got it. All right. Well, I appreciate your take on that, and thank you very much. Frank Zhu, who's the co-chair of Chinese Americans for the Constitution, and I'll put that information up. Thank you so much. Best of luck on defeating Proposition 50 and Governor Newsom. Godspeed, sir. Be well, okay? Thank you. Thank you, Dale. It is 828 at KMED, KBXG.

Hi, this is Bill Meyer, and I'm with Sharia. The Oregon Association of Broadcasters and this station. News Talk 1063, KMED. This is the Bill Meyer Show. It is 830, conspiracy theory. Thursday, busy time. By the way, tomorrow and Monday, Christa Gall will be filling in for me while Linda and I do a little traveling. And I appreciate him being around to do that. Brad's here too. Brad, you want to talk about education funding? Go ahead. I did, yeah, Bill, so we've got a real problem. State of Oregon wants to increase funding for schools, but they've got a real problem because, number one, 80% of education is funded by property tax revenues and commercial property tax revenues are cratering. Also, the other thing is

is that school attendance is dropping. They expect school attendance to drop 22% in the next five years. But, you know, here's what Don Volum, who is the son of one of the founders of Techronics had to say in an article in June, he said the combination of high taxes, poor services, and poor schools isn't a winning one, and that's where we are, Bollum says. You put those pieces together, and you have a place that's not desirable for people if they're starting or running a business. This is the son of the man who was the co-founder of Techronics at one time was Oregon's largest employer who is now leaving Oregon. So we've got a big problem, Bill.

Yeah, and is there any way to get out of that problem other than desert the public system? Yeah. Well, you know, putting more money into public education isn't going to produce a different result unless you improve the quality. In other words, let's just say that you started pumping a water into your gas tank instead of gasoline. It doesn't matter how much water you pump into that gas tank. You're going to have the same undesirable outcome. Yeah, well, nothing has changed, though, when it comes to Oregon's curriculum and political bent and agenda toward education. All I can say is that, you know, get on the school board, Brad, if you want to try to change the future, but if you're trying to save your kid right now, get him or her out, okay? There's an easy way. The top education official in the state of Oregon is the governor. All we need to do is change the governor, and things can improve rapidly. All right, point well taken.

I don't think that Christine Drazen's the one that's going to accomplish that, though. I disagree with you on that, you know? I really do. Brad? Oh, Bill. Bill. I don't think, I don't see any better number. She lost by 4% last time, and that was with a wingman, all right? That was with Christine Drazen trying to, not Christine Drazen, but the Betsy Johnson.

Yeah, Betsy Johnson there trying to siphon away a few votes. So what has changed? There's a lot that's changed. I think we've got the best opportunity that we've had since Chris Dudley to change the occupant of... Chris Dudley would be a better choice. And I'm serious, you know, many mouse against Anderson Cooper. I'm sorry. You know, it's hard for me to...

I don't know, Brad. I don't know. This anointing of Christine Drazen, I think, is going to come back to bite us in the butt. Well, you know, she's got the best chance of any Republican in Oregon and getting it done. Chris Dudley got way closer. He did, but Chris Dudley had a different set of dynamics working for him. And this election is going to be a lot different bill. You know, that $1.5 billion that Kamala Harris burned through,

the Democrat Party is still trying to pay off. They still have, I mean, she went through $1.5 billion in 107 days. They are really hurting for donors this election cycle. No, well, I hope you're right about that, Brad. They've always managed to pull that off. We'll say, I hope you're right. Hi, good morning. Gene, what's up?

Okay, Patrick, Deployable Patrick, thinks that they ought to get rid of Halloween. Maybe he should check into the history of how Halloween came about. Okay. And the history is they put on a mask. and everything in order to chase the evil away. The same reason that they used to put boys in boy babies in gowns that normally would be a girl is to keep them from coming near the boys. Okay.

I'm not familiar with that, but I thank you for your call. Take care, Jean. Hi, this is Bill. Morning. Hi, Bill. Glenn R. Shambone, Phoenix. Glenn, what do you think? Yep.

Oh, I'm thinking about the SNAP benefits. I was talking about that last hour. This is a big deal. Is it not? Oh, yeah, but it's not a new deal. No. The history of it is we have always fought about SNAP, rolled in the aisles of Congress,

hitting each other in the nose. big cities want the money the farms want the money and it's all and frankly the walmarts of the world want the money too okay yeah it's big part of the bottom line now i have people though that work within the chains that are telling me right now they're being told hey there's going to be less of us working saturday because we know there's not going to be as much business with less snap money flowing into the system so that's a big deal and they also said do not stop anybody's shoplifting food they're stealing food let them run do not do anything about that and And I don't think that's right at all, but how do you see it?

Well, it's not right. That's for sure. But where we're really in trouble is our federal government needs to get off their rear and get this settled because the damage they could do to the economy may be startling. Because we've done this before, you know, way back in time that I was there, the abundant food program, boy, and that turned into a war here in Jackson County. But it settled itself when the economy went back to a normal flow. And that's what we need right now.

We don't need people at Walmart stealing things. But I'm going to assure you, though, Bill, if people are going to be a sissy because they're on food stamps or on the SNAP program, and there's other similar programs, that's not the case. If you're really concerned about the morals of this, go in your backyard and start growing a huge garden for next spring. and I think you'll be very happy with SNAP after that experience. Oh, yeah. I'll get you with that. I'll agree with you on that. I guess the point being, the point being, though, is what concerns me is that we have a land

that has about one out of every six people unable to technically provide for themselves, and to me that should be a larger concern, shouldn't it? Oh, yeah, it should definitely be a concern. This is always a day-by-day issue. The long-term, what you're talking about, the very long-term being able to provide for yourself and your family, is a big issue. And it has changed drastically in our history. Appreciate the call, as always. 7705-633.

Actually, hold the calls for a minute because I'm going to reach out. A past chair of the Josephine County Republican Party wants to explain what happened with that meeting. I don't know if she was there last night or not. we'll do that. Joseph Rice is also blowing up my phone. He'd probably want to talk about this at some point. You know, I don't even want to get involved in this. From the KMED News Center, here's what's going on.

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Okay, first though, Holly Martin, former Josephine County Chair, Republican Party chair. And Holly, you know, I'm getting both sides of this whole thing about the, you know, one side of this group is saying that they have, that they

voted to recall Joseph Rice last night, the new chair. And then the other side saying, this is a False statement retracted. Well, frankly, I don't care about either of this right now. And because I don't have a dog in this fight other than the fact that I'm tired of seeing the circular firing squad. What is going on here? I know you did not run for chair.

You quit. So tell me what you're thinking. How did this happen? Let me explain the way a party works. In the Republican Party, the body of the party is the ultimate authority of the party. So what happened in this case, when we got a new chair, several members of the party, many members of the party, became unhappy with the direction the party was going. And so they called a special meeting of PCPs in order to talk about it and to discuss recalling the current chair, the chair that we had. And there was quite a bit of obstruction.

Obviously, the people who were in support of the chair tried very hard. to keep that meeting from happening. But ultimately, the meeting was called with the, assist with the ORP and many people within the ORP, a meeting was called. There was a quorum. Um, the, the, the, uh, Joseph Rice, who was the chair, um, and the group of people who supported him decided they did not want to participate. They were trying to obstruct. They tried to keep us from getting the, the room that we would use. They, they tried many things to keep it from happening. Every time We sent out notice that there would be a meeting. They sent out notice there would be no meeting.

So it went back and forth, and finally the meeting did take place last night. There was a quorum, and 98% of the people in attendance chose to recall Joseph Rice. And so he has been recalled by the body of PCP. But the party itself, the party structure does not recognize that, though, is what I'm being told on the other side. The party structure is the PCP. The party structure fully recognizes that, and the central committee fully recognizes that. And that will, you know, the fact that people decided not to show up was very unfortunate. The fact that they attempted to obstruct the meeting from happening created more and more support for the recall, because that's not the way

things are supposed to happen. Within a Republican Party, people are supposed to communicate, express their ideas. There should be votes. And for some reason, they decided to obstruct that. Now, I wasn't really involved so much in starting this recall. However, as I started to see the sentiment, I did get involved. I could see a lot of people were not happy. All right. So what happens next now? What, I mean, isn't the, isn't it up to the Oregon Republican Party, though, to make a decision in one form or another of who counts on this or not? The PCPs and the local party will choose new leadership. That's how it's going to work.

There'll be new elections. There'll be new leadership. I know some of the people may decide they don't want to continue who are in the party now. I don't know. Okay. Well, does this new leadership have keys to the building, though? Because that's the other thing people were telling me that the locks were changed. Yeah, they will have keys to the building, and it isn't about a building.

It is what the body of PCPs feel is the best direction for the party. All right. That's how the executive committee and the chair function at the pleasure of the body of the party. And the numbers spoke very loudly last night, 98%. And even if they were to say, well, we're bringing all of our people in, and we're going to redo this. The numbers spoke very loudly, and it's very unlikely that this will be overturned. All right.

Well, I'm sure that, no doubt, Joseph will reach out, and he's going to give me his take, too. So there we go. Oh, boy. Circular firing squad, eh, Holly? I know. Well, hopefully this is coming to the end of that, because there's a very deep bench of wonderful leaders within the party. I'm not going to be one of them.

I've retired, but I'm very impressed with the people who have come forth who have a vision and a direction for the party, and I have every confidence that things are going to get themselves straightened out, and we'll be back on track shortly. All right. I hope you're right. Okay, thank you, Holly. Holly Morton, past chair of the Josephine County Republican Party, 846. Diner 62 Real American Quiz. Let me just, where is my diner 62 queen? There we go.

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Oh, hey. It's V. Hi, V. You want to play Diner 62? You know it. Okay. You got it. Hey, it was this week, Tuesday in history. October 28th, 1919, Congress overrides the presidential veto of the Volstead Act, and we ended up getting prohibition, even though President Woodrow Wilson ended up saying no to it, all right? Now, the movement for prohibition started in the early 19th century, and Americans concerned about, well, our morals, they started forming the temperance society, and by the late 19th century, they become a powerful political force. They formed the Prohibition Party in 1869V, and later they campaign on the state level in calling for national liquor banning and abstinence.

December 17 of 1917, rather, the 18th Amendment prohibiting the manufacturer, sale, or transportation of liquors. It was passed by Congress, sent to the states, and then it got ratified, and then on we go. So the Volstead Act passed nine months later, so this is where we ended up getting us, despite a vigorous effort of law enforcement, agencies. The Volstead Act failed to prevent the distribution of alcoholic beverages. We all remember that. All the gangsters were doing it and everybody wanted their drink. Now, yeah, the Prohibition Party, V, still exists today. What animal do they use as their mascot? All right? Do you know what it is? It's either A, an owl, B, a deer, C, or rooster, D, a camel, or E, an eagle. What is the mascot for the non-drinkers, the Prohibition Party.

What do you say? Well, I'd say Camel because, you know, they wanted to be so dry, like the desert. Yes. Through the uprights, you have kicked that ball. Yes. Finally, huh? Yep, the Prohibition Party remains America's oldest third party, the first political party to permit women as members. Thomas Nast, who has.

as a cartoonist for Harper's Weekly, created the elephant to symbolize the Republican Party and a donkey for the Democrats. He settled on the camel for the Prohibition Party since that animal drinks only water. So your instincts on that. That was perfect, okay? Yep. Thank you. Hang on, V. We're going to send you to diner at 62. We'll have another one of those when I get back from vacation, maybe Tuesday, okay? If you've been injured in an accident, you've got Reed Law firm on your side. I'm Shane Reed. Dot Fox. Hi, this is Mark from Jay Austin, and I'm on KMED. 853, a few minutes left of conspiracy theory Thursday, if you wanted to join in, 770563-7-0 K-M-E-D.

I would say that if we are at that point where Snap goes away and people start stealing and robbing the grocery stores blind, I would go back to the COVID thing. Not that I want to go back to any kind of a COVID deal, but private security on the outside, and then a few people at a time go in the store you shop and it's like you know you set up maybe you're allowing 40 people to be in the store at one time and then you have to go out through you know the one place and and then check your receipts but I kind of like Matt's way of looking at this too maybe you just ban the use of the of the shopping cart right

ban the use of the shopping cart that ends up happening so that people just don't rob it blind because you know there's going to be a certain percentage of the people on benefits and even maybe people who aren't on SNAP benefits who will say, well, hey, they're already telling everybody. They're not going to stop the shoplifters, right? Could you see some of the sportier types doing that? I could. We'll see.

Say, 55, there is another story going out there that we haven't mentioned yet. Did you hear about Ted Cruz, Ted Cruz, that press conference yesterday, when he was talking about wanting to recall Judge Boresburg, do you hear about that? I want to play some of that audio for you. Interesting. Judge Boseberg put his robe down, stood up and said, sign me up to be part of the partisan vendetta against 20% of the Republicans in the Senate. That is a dereliction of duty and a violation of the judicial oath. And I want to thank Chairman Grassley and Chairman Johnson for pursuing.

suing this tenaciously like a dog on a bone, we are going to get the answers of every person who signed off on this abuse of power, and mark my words, there will be accountability for these zealots who wanted to corrupt the Department of Justice and corrupt the judiciary in order to try to attack their enemies' list. Boasberg apparently signed off on the ability of the investigators to spy on Ted Cruz's cell phone. Yeah, in spite of the fact that it's completely against the rules. And you have to start asking yourself, if the judges in D.C. would sign off on having Ted Cruz's cell phone spied on. What do they look at when they see someone like you, if there's any kind of suspicion about someone like you or me or anybody else?

that you may know or love, right? And in case you forgot about Judge Bozberg and some of the stuff that he's been accused of of doing or some of the stuff has been more controversial, he's a FISA judge. As a FISA judge, Bozberg approved at least one renewal of the FISA warrant against former Trump campaign advisor Carter Page.

Now, this became a big deal because the Inspector General Michael Horowitz found that there were huge errors in omission in those FISA applications, those FISA warrants never should have happened. And in spite of this abuse by the FBI, Bozberg largely kept it secret around the warrant process, and he did not sanction the FBI agents or DOJ attorneys. By the way, when Bozberg ended up saying,

hey, go ahead and spy on Ted Cruz's phone, you'll get those records from, I think it was at AT&T, Ted Cruz was supposed to have been informed of that. And from what I'm reading, that Judge Bosberg made sure that 18th, he didn't tell Ted Cruz about this. This is in the wake of what happened on January 6th, right? And Bowlesburg, of course, has given several accounts of, well, bouts of heartburn to President Trump, too. You know, he was involved in some of these cases recently. Also, following the exposure of the FBI behaving badly,

in Crossfire Hurricane, Bozberg issued corrective orders to reform, and he required the FBI to submit to annual compliance reports rather than actually imposing any kind of penalty on him. All sorts of things. Blocking releases. By the way, he sentenced FBI lawyer Kevin Kleinsmooth, who forged the email to justify spying on Carter Page and Trump, of course, to 12 months probation, no prison time. So he would appear to be rather light touch on. the deep stator types there.

So that's why Ted Cruz, of course, is hot and bothered about that. Anyway, I hope you aren't hot and bothered for the rest of the day. I'm going to go on vacation for a day or two. We have the Krista Gall Show filling in for me on Friday and from Monday. I look so forward to talking with you again on Tuesday. My email, Bill at Billmyershow.com. Take care.