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The Bill Myers Show podcast is sponsored by Klausur drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausor drilling.com. Hey, we have open phones for the next half hour or so on Pebble in Your Shoe Tuesday. You want to talk about anything involving the election today? And I don't know. Do you think New York City deserves a communist mayor? Does it deserve a communist mayor or should we be okay with Mom Dani being elected

mayor, which he probably will be the way polling is looking at tonight, should we be okay with the communists being elected in order to make sure that another communist doesn't get elected in the future? You guys have made a lot of problems,

and there's absolutely no way that he could keep all those promises. Do you have an opinion on that? I've often wondered this. It's like, okay, you guys have been flirting around me that, you Democrats, you're wanting to go full commie, just go full commie, crazed commie and all right now you got it what are you going to do oh a form of caliphate

oh we haven't even talked about that yet had we let me go with steve hello steve how are you this morning it's pebble in your shoe tuesday what's on your mind huh i'm doing great yeah i'm doing great bill just uh this is once in a while steve it calls you uh i appreciated one way or the other good to add you on uh well anyway so as far as what the little trickery that Kotech is pulling. Yeah, she doesn't give us that much time to put this on a petition to get it changed over to a ballot. You think we can pull out 78,000 good signatures in 60, less than 60 days? I think we can. I think it's a doable process if we write as soon as we can let people be aware of where these petitions are going to be to sign. And I'll even take a day.

off to go sign this thing. Yeah, it's going to have to be job number one for a bunch of us. We're going to have to really hit it and hammer it every day because she's banking on everybody going to sleep over the holiday. You know that's what she's thinking. She's banking on that. Oh, yeah, absolutely. So, the other guy that started the recall position,

I can't remember his name. What was it, Minix or something like that? Minnix, I thought. Yeah, Minnics. Yeah. Yeah, right. Bill Minnix. Yeah.

Anyway, so if we, if the people listening to your radio show are aware of where these petitions can be signed as soon as they come out and it's legal to start signing, take a day off and go sign that petition because you can't be able to pull the wall down over our eyes and get away with this. Yeah, we're going to be all over that winter if that happens. They already have the website up. I think it's no tax organ.orgia. I'll look that up again.

But, you know, they've got the infrastructure in place. They're just waiting for the go moment, you know, when the governor signs this. So I think this is doable. I think this is doable. I think this makes a lot more sense than, frankly, Minix trying to recall Kate Brown. I'm sorry, Tina Kotech. I always mix the two up. I'm sorry about that, Steve.

Well, you know, it's like we just, we tend to vote for Oregon. governors in a pattern, you know, for some reason. We'll just kind of leave it at that, Steve. Appreciate the call. Logan, it's up here next. And Logan, welcome to the show. It's Pebble in your shoe Tuesday. What's on your mind, huh? Hey, I just want to remind the Medford voters.

This is our moment. This opportunity may not arise again. This is our moment to go in and tell our local administration that, no, we do not want to pay more taxes. I'm encouraging people to turn in their ballots. I've got three. I've been doing a little harvesting in my neighborhood. And we've got to get these turned in.

I hear a lot of, from the majority of the people I hear, I would see eight of ten out of the people I talk to would say absolutely no. But then they say, but my vote doesn't matter. Well, it sure doesn't matter if you don't use it. It's self-fulfilling. I don't know if Chris Walker has the option, but this should be one of the east. easiest elections to be able to count of all of all things you should even have to put the things through the machine there should be a no pile and a yes pile and just stack them and then count them all right i don't know i don't know if she can legally do that but i mean if this this ends up being a

yes vote i want to audit the system and go in there because there's only one one measure on this whole ballot it's a yes it's one thing so it's it's they should be easily be able to stack them in a pile and count them but you have to understand the reason i think think that supporters of this are going for this is that it is a thinly voted election. They're counting on it being a thinly voted election, just like when they put tax increases in the in the May ballot, right? You know, they always do this. They put it in the primary when people aren't paying attention to school board races,

et cetera, et cetera. And, well, we'll just have to see what the voters say here. We really will. We need to demand an audit. If it is a yes vote, we need to demand an audit and let somebody go in there. I'll do it personally for free. It's not hard. You do a stack, have a couple people that are stacked.

I mean, it's the only one measure on this whole piece of paper, so there should be only one stat, two stacks. But remember, Joseph, remember Jackson County's experience when they were trying to audit the election? Well, yeah, and I get that bill, but you have several different, because you have several different factors on each of those ballots. This ballot only has one thing on it. No, no, no, I get that.

But remember when Jackson County would not let the state senator, take a look at the ballots unless they paid a million dollars to the county or whatever it was to make sure that there was no personally identifiable information on the ballot. Remember that deal a couple of years ago? I do remember that deal, but I don't know how far Chris Steen Walker. She's an awesome lady. I like her. How far her authority extends, but if that is truly the case,

and she needs to allow like a leader from our Democratic Party, Republic Party, to come down here because literally it should just be two stacks. That's what you would think, but I still, by the way, I still have people, there was some guy who wrote me over the weekend. I don't know. I forget who it was. I should have saved you, but he said, well, why is there no place on this ballot to sign your name? Because you're not supposed to sign your name on the ballot. It's all the envelope, okay?

Just so you know. Yeah, that we need to fix that. There need to be some way to, yeah, it's a rig. It is what it is, Bill. All right. Thank you for the call, Logan. 7705-633. And we're just taking calls on Pebble in your shoe Tuesday.

on KMED, KMED, H.D-H-T-1, Eagle Point, Medford, KBXG, Grants Pass. Hi, who's this? Good morning. This is Minor, Dave. Yes, Dave. A couple of things. One, my brother is going to call you after the show to see about picking up the CB for me. Yeah, I'll get in touch with him when the time comes.

I have to get it ready for you, okay? All right, that's fine. All right. I wanted to say that today's election day, and we need to turn out to say no on Proct 50. Prop 50 is a dead... Prop 50 is a deadly one when I was out of the coast on the weekend. And there were a lot of people that had no-on-fifties out there. And I'm just hoping that there's enough...

That there's enough sensibility to be able to overcome the urban areas. The polling doesn't look good for you. Some Democrats don't like it because they think that the state could be sued through the Trump administration or through a private initiative and that they could actually lose seeds. Hmm. Now, maybe you're right. I don't know. Appreciate the call, though, Dave. 770-5633. Hi, good morning. Who's this?

Good morning, Bill. It's Francine. Hello, Francine. Welcome. Hi. Thank you. Okay, I have a couple of things I want to mention. The first one, though, is this election, this is strictly for people in Medford. Well, for 15-238, yes, it's only in Medford, yes. Okay, because I didn't get a ballot, and I have to go look into that. Yeah, no, 15-238, only for residents of Medford, okay?

Okay, and also, I think that's absolutely, that shouldn't be that way, because are they the only ones that would be taxed people living in Medford? Well, it would only be affecting the hotel motel tax in Medford, only within the city of Medford, and that's why it goes to, it's not a county tax, it is the, hotel motel tax, the transient lodging tax for the city of Metford only, okay? Yeah, okay. That's why. So then, okay, but there's nothing else that anybody else would vote for then? I mean, there's nothing else on the ballot? No, I believe there is a fire district levy of some sort in the city of Rogue River,

but I think that's about it in Jackson County. Oh, okay, okay. I was wondering. I thought they were pulling a fast one on me. Okay, so here's something I would like to mention that, because I heard people discussing petitions. um there's there's you know some kind of a rule that i and correct me if i'm wrong there's a rule that says that if one of the signatures on your sheet of paper is invalid that whole piece gets tossed do you know about that yes i believe that has to do with the rules under um

they will throw out the page yeah right okay so here's my because remember they're not counting every signature they count a percentage right okay well that's yeah that that's that itself is BS, and that needs to stop. But here, here's the solution. Every, every page is just a one signature page. Oh, instead of multiple. Yeah. Yeah. It's just, you know, each person signs a piece of paper, boom, and you'll have a huge, huger stack of papers. Is that a word huger? That's an interesting strategy. So you, now, there is the ability to do single signature pages, right? And they call them individual petitions. I know you can do that. But you're talking about just taking the big printed ones. And every petition is just one page. So you print a lot

of paper to do this. So they cannot eliminate multiple signatures because of one. Yeah, that's always really bothered me. I like that. I have one. Thank you. And I have one other thing. I've mentioned this before, but nobody seems to quite get it. And we don't really have too many meetings like we have in the past where everybody's trying to talk because nobody talks anymore because everybody gets yelled at. But if we ever get to the place where people are allowed to go to the microphone and you have your minute and a half or two minutes or whatever is, they allow us to speak. Instead of everybody having their individual comments, everybody gets together. We write one big thing and each person starts reading from that. And when they

get cut off, boom, they're cut off. The next person comes up and picks it up. Can you guarantee how that happens, though, the order of people being called? Well, people would have to meet. They'd have to get together and meet, and they sign, you know, they get there. I think when you, as you sign in to have your say-so, that's the order they call you in. Okay. All right, Francine. I'll grab one more before news since I've already ran along on this Pebble in your shoe Tuesday segment, but hi, who's this? Good morning. Hey, Bill. It's Matt. Hey, Matt. What's going on?

Two things. It doesn't sound like I have much time. Hey, hey, I'll tell you what. You want to give me a call back. I have to restart my phone system because it's not auto answering. You want to give me a call in a couple minutes, and then we'll get your take. Can you do that? You got it.

All right. We'll do that afternoose. I always enjoy when Matt calls. I enjoy when you call, too. When Italian food sounds good and... Our high temperature's the rest of the week around 60. Here, KMED and Grants Pass on 105-9, K290AF, Rogue River in South Jackson County on 1067 K-294-A-S. Ashland. It's Pebble in Your Shoe Tuesday, Election Day.

If you have a statement about 15-238, anything else involving the elections, whether Proposition 50 in California, boy, that is a big one. That is huge. And let us hope that, well, I don't know. Can you hope it since prevail in California? I don't know. Well, you know, at least a fella can dream, right? Maybe I'll be doing a lot of dreaming today. 7-7-0-633.

Let's go to Matt. Matt's first. Matt got the phone restarted, so we're all ready. What's on your mind, huh? Well, I had two things. So one on this Medford thing about wanting to spend a lot of money to sort of upgrade downtown and all. Look, I don't know as much about it as I've listened to you talk about it with your listeners. but I chuckle every time I hear the commercial for it in favor of it

because here's what it sounds like hey we're going to build all this stuff and it's going to bring in all these people and when they get there we're going to stick it to them we're going to stick it to them I just I get the messages for the local but that ad I mean it's one of that like that's what they're saying something else but that's what I'm hearing so so all of them ignorant Roobes who come here to travel to Oregon. We're going to stick it to you.

Is that what you're saying? That's what it sounds like. That's funny. Hey, come on, come all. We want you to do it. I guess I'll say one more thing on that topic. My biggest issue is I used to travel for about 10 years. I traveled around the country and I used to do financial seminars.

And there were places that we went to. And the reason we went to these places is because when people traveled to come to see us, they also could go to a play if we were in New York. If we were in Chicago, they could visit the exchanges or go down to, I think they call it the Miracle Mile, and you could shop. If we went to Philadelphia, of course, just steeped in absolute history and wonderfulness. If you went to D.C., it was the same thing. Get a tour of the White House, the Capitol building. If the reason they're building all this is trying to attract people, I think they're going about it backward.

A wise businesswoman once told me, don't spend money to generate money. Generate the demand first, and as demand increases, then spend the money. money. I think Medford has an inherent problem of understanding why anybody would come to Medford of all places to hold a conference of any kind. And I think if you want to attract people, it has to be for the things that people would come to Medford naturally, maybe salmon fishing or steelhead or great hunting. But you see, the challenge with that is that that doesn't necessarily generate traffic to the downtown area and that's what they're trying to do no doubt they're trying to well you know if we end up having the you know the conference center and then we'll have people

that are going to come here for conferences and then they'll go out and fish or hunt afterwards i guess that must be the the theory at least wouldn't you say i mean it's the downtown so bad that people are avoiding it i mean i'm talking about guests people who don't live here uh well you know there are some nice things in downtown Medford, but there is the challenge of, you know, we still have the bummed them, and then we also have, you know, hotels that have been turned into, hotel motels that have been turned into, in essence, nice homeless camps, except they're, you know, they're staying behind closed doors, you know, that kind of thing. At the same time that they're building the Hilton, you know, downtown, too, they're building a

hilton. It's going to be nice, going to be a nice place. So there's a little bit of, you know, what is the vision? What is the vision for downtown Medford, I guess? It's what we're struggling with right now. Yeah, I think if Medford wasn't in Oregon, if it was in Idaho, there's more hope, but how do you ever change the bumdom and all the other stuff when the state is in control of all that? I just don't know how that changes. Okay, so what I wanted to call about was this whole thing about people saying, oh, it's going to be great if Mom Domi gets elected mayor because you can run against it in mid-term. Yeah, I was just posing it as a question. It's like, you know, do you just, you know, are you just okay with New York getting what they deserve, so to speak?

But I know it hurts the rest of us, though, I guess. But what do you think? Okay. This is my opinion, of course. This is not a reflection of anybody else. It's me. That is the dumbest thing in the world for people to think that it's a good thing that a Marxist, Islamist, becomes mayor of the financial mecca of the world. And I'm not sure for how much longer it'll be that. But maybe that's the point of making it a, what is the, what is the term they have? Well, halal for the food. For the food. Gosh, what would it be? Sharia? Yeah. Would it be a Sharia financial coming to the country? You know, instead of it being in Dearbornistan as an example. And by the way, they stopped that terrorist.

attack, that Halloween attack, and, you know, in Michigan the other day. Yikes. Thank God. Yeah. Yeah, thank God. So here, I'm going to build an image for you, for the listeners here. First of all, this isn't going to be total chaos if he gets elected like it was with de Blasio, where he shuffled $800,000 into his wife's pocket and all the other craziness that went on there. It's not going to be like that. I listened to Lindasar's source some quotes that she was giving recently. And she was talking about how this entire campaign was being mostly funded by the Muslim community in New York and around the globe. We're talking about money coming here from Middle Eastern countries to support this guy. This is going

to be one of the most closely managed mayoral ships the world has ever seen. You are going to have voices from the Middle East and other places managing everything that this guy does. This guy, he's just, he's a bearded smile. That's his only job. He will not be instituting anything. Everything will be somebody else. It'll almost be like the, what did they call it? So, in other words, this is the Islamic Trojan horse in the system.

Yeah, they know for this to succeed and for this to become ingrained in New York City. city, it can't look like de Blasio. It can't look like that because people ran from that. So it can't look like that. So it is going to be closely managed. But this money and the advice is going to be coming from outside our borders. And I believe what they'd like to do is now you've got a stock exchange in Texas. You've got one that's small in Miami. I think what you're going to see is more In fact, I heard somebody said this yesterday. There are more employees working for Goldman Sachs and J.P. Morgan and Texas and Florida now than they are in New York. So you're going to see, if they can, chase the financial institutions that we've known for 130 years out of New York just because of the taxes and the other things.

And you're going to see a Middle Eastern stock exchange called the New York Stock Exchange in New York City. I think, I know it's not conspiracy theory Thursday, but I think this is what it evolves to. I think it involves very forward thinking on a lot of people's parts, and I just think this is the direction they wanted to go. For it to get to that point, they can't let this guy go in and do a bunch of crazy stuff. It is going to be well-managed. So he will be controlled and managed, just essentially a bearded puppet. Okay, you could be right about that. I know it's not conspiracy theory Thursday, but yeah, there's a lot writing on this.

And, you know, we have to make communism, we have to make communism palatable for the masses. You have to, and so you have to go up, they have to go by it, about it carefully. And so for the people who think, oh, it's going to be a disaster, or they're going to be bums on every bus and subway, it isn't going to be like that. Okay, you could be right about that. Good call. I appreciate that, Matt. If you're waiting on hold, I'll get right to you.

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That's 720 KMED. By the way, ACDC, I just heard this morning, is going to be touring. again. I got to tell you. But the other thing is they still bring it. They do? Just astounds me. It's an 826-7705633-7-0-K-M-E-D. You know, something else I'd like to throw into the question mix as we go to the phones here on Pebble and Your Shoe Tuesday is how do you believe that former Vice President Dick Cheney will be remembered? He passed away age of 84 last night. had complications of pneumonia. Of course, he already had heart issues and various other things.

How do you think he'll be remembered? 7705-633, but we're also talking Measure 15-238 and a bunch of other stuff here too. Hello, John. How are you this morning? What's on your mind? I'm doing all right, Bill. What are you thinking? Thanks for hosting this show. I appreciate it. My pleasure. What's on your mind? Well, I just want to let you know I'm voting against Measure 15-238.

I have a couple of reasons, three of them, maybe. I don't want to see Hawthorne Park destroyed. You don't? Just for somebody's financial benefit. What would you think about, you know, Hawthorne's a little threadbare at the moment, though, and arguably taken over by a lot of homeless? I mean, hasn't it already been kind of,

I don't want to say destroyed. It hasn't been destroyed, but it's certainly been taken over, hasn't it? Well, you know, that's an administrative problem here for the city fathers and the law enforcement that if they just remove the park, you know, those problems are still going to be here because of the Bums Highway that runs up and down the creek area. Yeah, we'll be squeezing the Bum toothpaste tube. It'll pop up somewhere else, I guess. Yeah, pretty much And my second reason is I just don't think Medford needs a huge eyesore Baseball Stadium right there

It's just going to ruin the look and feel of Medford The small town field is Is going fast as it is But I mean, that would just Really turn Medford into Portland South Would you be okay if the ball stadium were over by, what is it, the Lithia Fields now is no longer U.S. cellular fields, but other people have mentioned that they think it would be better placed there on the south side. Would you agree with that or just, you don't like the idea of a stadium at all? Well, you know, I've been out to the ball field several times watching games, and I think it's fine the way it is.

I don't think we need a huge stadium. I mean, I'm sure it's a boom for some of the insiders that are in the construction business and some of the people that are going to make money on the administration of that. But I think things are fine the way they are. All right. All right. John, I appreciate your call. That's why we have Pebble in your shoe Tuesday.

And I wonder if there's anybody that's actually supporting it. Is anybody supporting it because, like I said, I understand why the city is doing. doing it. I think the ball stadium part of it is probably the weakest, in my opinion, but you know, it's what we have. We have all opinions on this. Let me go to Tom. Hello, Tom. How you doing? Go ahead. Good morning. I always appreciate Matt's comments. They're just wonderful. Yeah, me too. And, but I wanted to talk about, he was talking about capital flight out of New York. I want to talk about capital flight out of Oregon. You know, Kate Brown, when she was governor, passed the corporate activity tax.

And that has driven a tremendous amount of revenue, tax revenue out of Oregon. Businesses are moving out, Dutch brothers, a whole bunch of them. But not to be outdone. Jeff Golden is following up in her footsteps. He's introducing Senate Bill 679, which will basically put Oregon back into the Stone Age. Because what it is, it's basically any judge can declare any weather event an emergency and find anybody who's emitting carbon. I don't know if that's me or you, but I mean any business that they can blame it and go in and tax them. So I think any business in Oregon would be absolutely insane to stay in Oregon with that kind of sword hanging over their head.

Now, I have a copy of this bill, SB 679. Apparently, this was introduced in the 2025 session earlier this year, okay? So I don't know what happened with it if it proceeded, but the basics of it is that the parties that make greenhouse gases, that would mean all of us essentially, are strictly liable for damages due to climate change. And so this would be the law of the Oregon land. and provides that parties that have caused a certain amount of greenhouse gas emissions are strictly liable to harm parties for damages incurred as a result of extreme weather. So every time there's an extreme storm, then the gas companies or a Vista or somebody else gets sued.

You know, that's essentially what it means, right? Yeah, that's exactly it. You know, it's just like any judge can declare any weather event, an emergency. In fact, the bill itself is passed under an emergency, which means that people, people can't have a referendum to change it. So this is just an additional climate flight, or I'm sorry, not climate, but capital flight. We'll drive more capital flight. Yeah, who needs a, you know, an EMP pulse going out to destroy civilization.

We've got Jeff Golden here. He's out to destroy Oregon's all economic activity of any sort in Oregon. So there he is. All right. Just trying to, unintended consequences, or maybe they are intended. You just want to have a stone age here in Oregon. Yeah, apparently so. Flintstones.

Meet the Flintstones. Anyway, thanks, Tom. Let me go to Dale's here. Dale, you wanted to talk about Measure 15-238. Please. Go ahead. Yeah, hi, Bill. Hi.

My wife and I, we don't really quite understand what this measure. is I've been seeing commercials that they're saying it's not a property tax increase. No, it's not. Is that true? Yes, it is. It's not true. It is an increase in the, what you'll hear the term, TLT, transient lodging tax. In other words, hotels and motels and somebody has an Airbnb, you know, that kind of thing, temporary lodging.

The tax could go from 11%, which is current right now, to 13%. And the additional money would be, well, part of it would end up going to travel Medford, you know, the chamber operation there, that helps encourage travel, you know, to southern Oregon. And then another aspect of it would then be used as seed funding to help spur along a conference center and a hotel and also they would like to see a ball stadium too for the Eugene Emeralds. Okay. Okay, so what I understand, what we had, what my wife and I understand is that they're going to build a, baseball stadium at Hawthorne Park? Yes, in a corner of Hawthorne Park, yeah.

Part of the park will be taken, not all of it, but a portion of it, yes. So this stadium is going to be for what kind of professional or semi-professional? Yeah, a single-A ball. I believe a single-A-ball, San Francisco Giants team, Eugene Emeralds, and they're currently trying to get out of Eugene because they're, you know, they need a new stadium. Okay. So basically, this is a pretty good measure. Well, I think of all the parts of it, I think the baseball stadium is probably the weakest part of the situation.

I think there are better places to have that than downtown, but they're trying to wrap this up. They want to do the development down there, you know, by the creek side, so to speak, why they're calling it a creek side quarter. Okay. And I guess the question is, do you trust the city of Medford? to do the right thing and be wise in its stewardship. I guess these are the questions that we ask ourselves before we vote on this today. Okay. So there's supposed to be some new hotels and whatnot?

Yeah. In addition to the old new hotels that are already going up downtown. But this would be, and supposedly talks are going on behind the scenes and have been, there is a developer who was interested in doing it. It would be a huge project, it would be about a half billion dollars at today's valuation right now. That's a huge, huge deal. Okay. So the idea of all this is to increase tourism during the tourism season.

Yeah, and then to garner more hotel motel tax from the people who would be coming here. And that it's looked at as, for lack of a better term here, Dale, they're looking at this as a rainmaker. We have something here which is nice, which is fresh, which is, you know, has the, you know, the conference rooms where people can bring conventions here and all these other things, and it's a nice, shiny place to do it. And we're just, they're hoping that all the economic boats would rise from this increase in tourism for the other businesses surrounding it, okay? Yeah.

Okay. All right. All right. Yeah. Hope so. Hope that help. Let me go to Brother Brad. Hello, Brad.

How you doing? What's on your mind, huh? Bill, good morning. So the guy you're just talking to about the economic impacts of the golden bill spot-on. Yeah. That's just insane. Absolutely insane. But this is why the economic winds are blowing favorably for capitalists slash conservatives.

Democrats are not dumb people. I mean, I hear so many comments about, you know, Democrat, this Democrat. You know, I grew up with really smart, engaged Democrat neighbors. My father-in-law is a Democrat. Some of these, you know, the leftists, these people that are on the hard left, yeah, I've got some disagreements with them on policy. But Democrats love their kids. They want their kids to be able to afford homes.

They want their kids to have good education. All the things that matter to all of this are going the wrong direction, and everybody gets it. Oregon right now is at the bottom of educational. performance. And it's worse than that. I mailed you a, no, I didn't email. I texted you a map of fertility rates across the United States. The deeper blue you are, the less fertility per woman, the red zone, more fertility. Oregon is literally dying. Oregon is blue, blue, blue. It is... I would imagine that's also why they've been okay with being a sanctuary state because, you know, a more,

a more fertile population, replacement population, is coming, I guess, or has been. But you and I have discussed, you know, we discussed that article that was published statewide where the former president of Eco Northwest foremost planning institution in the state of Oregon said, Oregon schools are kaput. Yeah, and I agree. The point being, though, you're really positive about this. You're optimistic that things will change. I have seen no evidence that leftists that have brought us what we have at this point

can be hurt enough, can be hurt enough to be able to say, all right, I'm going to vote for Christine Drazen as an example. Now, I could be wrong. Well, the leftists are running out of money because Oregon has never run out of money before, and they've had 30% of their entire budget cutoff because they won't walk away from they won't walk away from sanctuary states and won't walk away from having men playing women's sports and they refuse to comply with the things that they need to to get to get this federal money. Yeah, and I great, and you and I look at that and say that this is absolutely insane,

but there are people here, I would dare say that a majority of the population returns those bozos every time. Oregon is one of the few states that has more government workers than it does private sector workers. Well, there we going, and that is a built-in constituency. You understand that. And what's happening to our government sector workers? They are getting laid off in droves because of the reasons you and I just discussed. This is an opportunity for reason and balance to return to Oregon. Yeah, but you have to have reason and balanced people.

I mean, are you convinced that somehow Oregon, in spite of its shortcomings, that reason and balance will all of a sudden just descend upon the people who voted to bring unreasonable and unbalanced and unhinged moronity, if that's such a term. We'll just make up the term, you know, to actually be state policy. Yes, I do, and I'm going to use you as the poster boy. Bill, is your show reaching more people now than it did five years ago? And you and I both know the answer is yes. You're reaching more people today than you did five years.

ago probably yeah i don't know for sure but it could be yeah all right people people are paying attention people are not stupid people understand some things work better than others and some things don't and even people that are democrats are going you know what things are not working very good in organ anymore we need we need to make a change you know maybe you're right but uh i've come to the conclusion that uh we're in an era of stupidity on the rise so um we'll see who wins on this one okay I hope you're right. But the evidence that I've seen so far is that there's way more stupid than not stupid these days. Stay tuned because you're going to see things really improve in this next election cycle.

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541 941 3736 ccb number 250730 hi this is bill mire and i'm with cherise from no wires now your dish premier local retailer. It's time to switch to dish. If you have... Give Bill a call at 541-770-5633. That's 770 K-M-E-D. It is 844. Sorry, I'm just trying to clear the phones up here, and so I was a little bit off there. Brother Brad's here. A different Brad. Hey, Brad. How are you? What's up? My good friend, Bill, how are you? I am well. Other than the... Other than people are crazy at its election day. You know, but that's the world we live in, right?

That's right. Hey, you know that I've been a member of the SLM's, the Lavinian Lives Matter. Yes, indeed. And we're a very, very proactive group, and I've got some information for you. Okay. You had on your show two, three weeks ago, it was a guy that was talking about cattle in Mexico, He's driven to the Texas border or Arizona, whichever.

Yeah, and it was about screw worm, the problem with a screw worm. Yeah. And thank God being a member of the SLM, we're very proactive on research. We've discovered that George Soros has bought thousands of head of those kinds of cattle, and they're pushing them towards the U.S. border. and a reason being that these are full, these animals are full of illegals or foreign individuals that look like these worms, and they're smuggling fentanyl into the United States. Okay, one more time, I'm not quite missing. I'm missing you with this.

Well, George Soros, you know how he funds a lot of subversive components, in our culture. He's paid for a lot of cattle that are the type that carry this type of worm. And apparently they've discovered that there's non-citizens that can look like this worm. Oh, okay, all right. Got it. Okay. And they're shoving them towards the U.S. border to ship fentanyl to the United States. Okay, so the screw worm is part of the fentanyl. That's a good one, brother, Brad. Okay? I appreciate you. You got it, brother. All right, thanks. Okay. Let me grab another one. Hi. I never know when someone's not going to be completely serious. But anyway, hi, who's this? Morning. Hi, it's Francine. Hi, Francine. This is my double dip. Okay. We'll forgive you.

We'll forgive you. What? Okay, two things. First of all, the whole thing about this, the stadium is going to take a part of Hawthorne Park. Yes. Hawthorne Park isn't that big. Stadiums are huge. What the heck are they talking about a part of the park? I mean, what is it going to be a stadium for the Lillipusian team? No, no, no.

It's going to be a lot of the buildings. It's going to be building towards the freeway. It's not just Hawthorne Park. But it's going to encompass part of that, along with a hotel and motel. It's a big deal and a lot of retail. It's going to mow down a lot of existing things. buildings, houses, things like that. Yeah, I imagine there's some.

Sure. Yeah. Yeah, that's part of it. Yeah, okay. All right. Yeah, I just think it's incredibly ridiculous. And the other thing is, okay, so, you know, I asked you earlier about the taxation, you know, which is the people in Medford going to be taxed or they voting on that. And you said, no, that's not the situation.

So, okay, so it's not about them, their personal stuff. But every one of us that lives in the area uses Medford for something or another. It's a really important center of our area, the valley here that we live in. There's so much going on in Medford that everybody has to go to Medford a few times a month, if not once or twice a week. And so we should have some say on what's going on in Medford because it's our kind of city center that many of our resources are there. You know, if it were a county-wide tax, yeah, you probably would have some say,

but this is strictly about taxing out-of-town visitors or, I guess, in-town visitors, if they're staying at a Medford hotel or motel or transient lodging tax, like an Airbnb. I'm talking about the fact that they're building this stadium thing. That's going to affect us a lot. I mean, I go to the growers' market at the park, you know, and in spite of the way how, you know, the kind of people that go to the park, there's also a lot of other people that go to the park, too. You know, I'd take my dog to the dog park there every time I go to the market.

And, I mean, it's like they're going to take that away from us. We should have some say-so in what they're doing. Well, are you paying taxes here? I don't pay taxes anywhere. I don't make it. Then shut up. I'm just kidding. No way.

I mean, you know, I'm part of the community. All right. That point, well taken, but, yeah, no, you don't have a say on this one, on this part of it at least. Hi, good morning. This is Bill. Who's this? Welcome. This is Tim from Shady Cope.

And same thing about the ballpark. I got a question and a comment. The question is, she kind of might have answered a little bit, but what are people saying about having this ballpark and going in and putting all these motels in and stuff? And gosh, I forgot my other one. But that was basically my thought or my question. Now, in the talk radio world, most of what has been coming in has been

has been not real positive. Now, I don't know, but just because I have questions about this and I don't want to be that way because I see why they're trying to do it. I think the ball stadium part of the development is probably the weakest part of the whole deal, in my opinion. The weakest part. I like baseball.

I miss the Mepford A's, the Chimper Jax, when they were in town and miss all that. But I'm just thinking, is it something that Mepford and support and these convention centers, you know, how often will people actually use that or how often will the business be used? I mean, we've got all these hotels that are empty because they're not being used. But of course, they'll say that they're empty because we don't have enough attractions, and so they think, you know, a Giants ball team here, you know, that kind of thing, and that might be a rainmaker. There's a little bit of, I guess the point is they're

asking for some faith here. If we think that, you know, you've been. build this, enough people will come to wash it all out. I guess that's really what's going on, wouldn't you say? Yeah, and I think I'd be trying to build tourism and measure to be great, but it's just you've got to be careful. You don't want to end up spending money on stuff that just may not be used. Yeah. Now, remember, the people are saying that only 10% of it would be out of the taxpayer funds,

which, of course, would be the transient lodging tax, as the rest of it would be, or is supposed to be private funding. So there we go, okay? Let me go to next line. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Bill, it's Jerry. Hi, Jerry.

I voted no on the measure. You did. Why? Here's why. Because the whole thrust of this was that they wanted to revitalize our economy, or something to that effect. Revitalize was a word I heard over and over. over in the ad. Anyway,

well, I have a suggestion for them if they want to revitalize the economy instead of building a convention center, a baseball stadium, and whatever else. Lower taxes. Because, you know what, Bill? Here's an example.

There's people who come here from California and shop at Costco and other places. why we don't have a sales tax do you believe that raising the uh transient lodging tax would be a bad effect overall i mean having a 13% transient lodging tax is not unusual in Oregon

a lot of cities do well bill like one of your previous callers here a little while ago my get feeling tells me that while they're telling us that it's or not going to have to pay for it through property taxes or anything. I think they're being overly optimistic, and we may end up paying for it. Somebody's going to end up paying for it if the lodging tax alone doesn't do it. All right.

We'll see what the voters say here, Jerry. Appreciate the call. 7705-633. We're trying to squeeze a few more in here on Pebble in your shoe Tuesday. The Bill Myers Show on 1063, KMED. 4992's Make that 4990958.

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Hi. Ten signatures on a petition sheet is okay. They don't throw the sheet away. they just subtract a number from the total. They do. So they don't throw the whole page out for that? Because I was under the impression that they did. No, they don't.

Talk to our county clerk, Chris. It's Oregon law. They're allowed to take a 5% sample. So each signature that they look at represents 20. So they subtract 20 if there's a bad signature. Okay. Duly noted. duplicate, they subtract 400 if there's a duplicate.

Duly noted. Okay. Thank you very much. Check with Chris. The law might have changed in 20 years. All right. Yeah, I don't know if I care enough about it, the check, but thank you for your take. Okay. Fill up those sheets and get them in fast. All right. Correct. Thanks. All right. It's 856. Hi. Good morning. Who's this? Hello, Ed. Welcome. On the stadium deal, if it's such a good deal, why's Eugene letting the team go?

Well, the claim is that Eugene just has all the sports oxygen in the room is taken up with the ducks, the Oregon ducks. And there's just not left over for the San Francisco Giants. And that's kind of the impression that I got from this. And they're looking at Southern Oregon as like, you know, we don't have the ducks to bug us and all the rest of it. And so they're thinking that this would be appropriate place to try it out. Okay. What do you think? no yeah that's an explanation i just hadn't heard i hadn't heard an explanation for yeah yeah that's

why okay let me go to i'll take one more call then we got to hi who's this good morning hello hey bill and drop me david how you doing i'm doing fine what's on your mind well a couple things about this measure uh 15 238 uh-huh you know there are plenty of other options for people to stay in the rogue valley besides medford So if people are looking at the taxes as part of their budget, I don't see why they wouldn't just stay in White City or talent or confessal point or somewhere else. And secondly, I don't think a 2% transient lodging tax is going to generate the revenue they need to build a half a billion dollar development. Yeah, well, it's not meant to build the whole development. a portion of it about 10 percent. So I guess they're looking 40, 50 million is what they're

thinking. But we'll see what the voters say. We'll see what the voters say. We'll have an idea later tonight, okay? I appreciate the call. And thank you for listening to email bill at Billmyershow.com. We'll kick it around wheels up Wednesday and should have a good talk again.