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Will Reichman gave me a copy of it, a friend of mine, called Against the Machine. Now, against the machine, and it is talking a lot about how and why we feel so disconnected because our culture is so unmoored to reality. And our reality, our societal reality, was the Christian underpinnings of society. This was the, these were the stories, these were the myths, these were the societal glue that held us together. Paul King's North Book, I think, is absolutely excellent. I wish he lived in the United States only because it would be easier to probably get him on

than to talk to some guy over in a peat bog in Ireland. But I think I'm going to try to reach out to it. But, you know, it's this when you have a society that collapses and loses its social story, it's social underpinnings, its moral code, its moral direction, you end up getting in a world where you end up, okay well here is a obvious guy but he claims to be a woman in the end you're supposed to just sit there and go

oh okay you know this is the lie you're forced to believe because well there's no longer a moral code even when it comes to our own biology even and you and you just get this this atomization of individuality I guess

or individual to the extreme I guess I thought it was really something let me get this because people are asking me about this against the machine Paul Kings North against the machine on the unmaking of humanity and that the point is the machine that we are living in right now the society is about unmaking our very humanity even our biology and a lot of this is because of well the technocracy you know you have the you know whether it's Peter Thiel

whether it's Elon Musk and say, well, you know, we can't live here anymore, so we get into our rocket ship, but we expand. Everything always has to expand. We have to go out in the outer space, and then we'll find the better home. No, this is our home. Crying out loud, let me go to Gene, but I'll take your calls. I didn't want to get off on this, but just seeing that Supreme Court story, nope, they will not even begin to revisit same-sex marriage. Nope, can't touch that hot potato. But Gene, how are you doing this morning?

What are you thinking? Well, I'm thinking we're very confused, and we don't know really where we are or who we are. If you are in a society that can't even figure out the difference between male and female, your society has already collapsed. You just haven't swept it away yet, okay? Oh, yeah. We're hanging on the threads. I mean, try to keep them tumbling down any farther. that we already are, and I'm afraid our hands are slipping.

I hope not. I hope not, but anyway, Kings North is going out there and talking about how this is what happens because the underpinning of Western civilization, the Western civilization was ultimately Christianity. It was not the Enlightenment. The story was the Christian story. Appreciate the call there. Not so crazy, Gene. Let me go to the next call. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Hey, Bill, it's Lynn. Hi, Lynn. How are you? Good.

This is great because I was thinking about some of these lines when you were talking about capitalism and how corrupt it's become because of our loss of morality. But Paul King Solver, the fascinating guy, did you read about there his history where he was an activist and an atheist very involved in Greenpeace until he realized it just nothing was making any difference at all? Yes, I did read about that. And it does talk about it in the beginning of the book, his early deal. So he's converted to Orthodox Christianity, which he's despaired of the public policy.

He doesn't think that will help at all. And I think I don't 100% agree with him, but it is true that we need a massive return to Christianity to Christ. And it has to be because people believe it's true. And what he is talking about, though, is that we are. essentially living in the wreckage of Christianity right now. And I would agree with him on that. It's like, yeah, you know, we celebrate Christmas, but you're really not supposed to believe too much about that. You know, your public school will talk about, you know, gosh, we're going to play some songs here, and gosh, they're really beautiful. They're religious. We want to make sure

and warn you about that, Lynn. You have to be warned the trigger warning of a religious song at the Christmas concert, okay? Or the holiday concert. Yeah, 100%. I mean, I watched these ads on TV, and it's Santa. and the snowman and all of this, and I think, you know, so many people now, we have generations of people who don't even know what Christianity is, and I think, why are you even celebrating? It's like, what is the point? That's a day off. It's a day off.

It's a day off. It's a day off. Yeah, and it's about getting good stuff. And so there's no other faith like Christianity, and humans are inescapably religious. You're going to worship something, and the natural order. of things is paganism, where the goal is human glory, develop human capacities to the greatest extent possible, and if you have to, you know, destroy a few people on the way up so much. And that's the way Rome was. It was all about glory. People got statues for winning

in battle and conquering and things like this. And Christianity is the only faith that begins with repentance, with a broken heart over human sin, and a dedication to a savior who's says forgive uh forgive them they don't know what they're doing i wanted to take it back to something i was talking about this morning because you know that um it had to do with uh the social welfare i think exactly forget exactly how we uh how we got into this but uh i forget i think it was tom who called and we were talking about the way charity had been taken care of in the past and in earlier iterations of our capitalistic system that the so-called, even the so-called robber barons to a certain extent, were encouraged even by the Christian underpinnings of the nation to do

good works with their wealth and not just focus on the next quarterly profit statement, that kind of thing. Yeah, we have the Carnegie Libraries. We have all kinds of charitable foundations that have now gone fully left in our or corrupt, but many of them were begun by these wealthy moguls who made their money in railroads and other things. And, yeah, from the very beginning, who is the guy that came to America from France to find out what the secret was?

I'm trying to blank on his name, but he wrote about the pulpits of America being aflame with righteousness and how there were so many charitable organizations. Even in the 18th century, you know, right when we were getting started as a nation, that was not like anywhere else in the world. And he marveled at this. And I can't believe I can't remember his name. Yeah, I'm trying to search my brain for it right now, too, but I know who you're speaking of.

He wrote on the American culture in the situation. But that was the Western culture, too, though. Right. Well, different religions create different cultures. So you can look at cultures all around the world, and the religion or the idols they worship, And they create a certain kind of culture. Hinduism creates a culture where people who are in trouble or are poor, they deserve it because of their bad karma.

So they're left to die on the streets. The Muslim culture abuses women, rapes little boys, and they're a tribal political ideology that intends to take over the world, at least the most extreme forms. You can look at culture, and you can tell a lot about the religion. and the only culture that's developed to these ideas of freedom and liberty in the context of morality because you can't be free if the people aren't moral, it's Christianity. But what happened, I think, since the time of our founders, is that, okay, because the founders were, of course, I think, I would dare say, either deists or students of the Enlightenment. Yes, they were, but the vast majority were also Christian.

Agreed. Agreed. But I think what was happened is that they were kind of taking it. a balanced approach, I think, in the formation of the United States, the way this is work. Because even they talked about is that you can't have this kind of liberty unless you have a moral people. So they recognize that the nation has to have its moral code, has to have its, it has to have its stories.

You see them getting at? Yeah, we've lost our story. We've lost the meta-narrative, as they say these days. Yeah. And so... But the Christian story is the most wonderful, joyous, hopeful story, no matter... how dark it is. And what we need is, and there's signs of it. One of my clients who's become a friend called me up not long ago and said, where do you go to church? She's been away from church

for 30 years. And a lot of things contributed to her wanting to go back to church, but Charlie Kirk's murder was kind of the final straw. Bible sales at Evangel in Medford are up 37%. There's just a lot signs that people are like, this isn't working, I need answers. Yeah, and essentially living in the debris of Christianity, it's not working for our society. For the United States, it's not working right now. And we're heading toward tyranny. I mean, the French Revolution put reason on the throne in the churches and look. Exactly. Exactly. Reason, what they call reason, except that, you know, reason in this particular case, you know, Kings North talks about it in this book, how you cannot divorce reason from emotion, even though they claim to, because essentially you end up getting

like this, I'm not saying this, I'm just paraphrasing, kind of an autistic culture in which, okay, you're all really smart and you're doing all the right things, and then, but it's your technocracy, it's divorced away from real humanity, from the real, you have to have both. You have to have the thinking and the emotion, you know? Logic and reason is a tool, and Satan is probably the most brilliant logician out, you know, in existence. So reason is not enough. In fact, sometimes the most humble people who are not educated but who have walked with God for many years,

they have wisdom and grace and power that these brilliant scientists, they don't even know what a human being is. They think a human being is a, you know, meat robot on a stick. And all we need to do is download the Internet into our brains and we'll become superhuman. And frankly, those are the Elon Musk's and the Peter Thiel's and the various other people. That's their point of view, you know, in which it is the Internet. pure logic. Well, obviously we're just meat robots, and we're not human. There is no

soul. It's just our experiences and whatever is in the brain tissue. And we can evolve. We can control our evolution. And you know, this is Nietzscheism. This is always going to devolve in genocide and disaster.

And again, it's really hard to look at reality if you don't have faith in a God who's in control of history, because it's really too frightening, frankly. Yep, indeed. But anyway... God, you can look at it.

Yeah, so have you read this book or just, you know... No, but I read a substack, and it's very fascinating. Like, a young friend of mine turned me on to him through Barry Weiss. She interviewed him maybe a year or so ago. And, you know, he... The reason he's out in the boonies in Ireland is because he doesn't have a lot of hope for the future of Western civilization. Yeah, he's hiding out, and he wants to, you know, work his, you know,

wants to grow his wildflowers and get a garden and kind of stay away from it. And so I'm hoping that I can reach out to him through his substack then. I'll see if I can get him on. Yeah, he's a fascinating guy, though. I mean, I don't agree with him. One of my issues with Orthodox Christianity, which Will converted to, it's a beautiful faith, but it's not evangelical, and it's really not at all about culture. You just, you know, you live out your faith, and any impact on culture is indirect.

I don't think that's enough. Yeah, we can quibble. We can quibble on those things, but what I am hearing from him is making a lot of sense. That's what I say. All right. He's really great, and nobody is thinking like him, so he's worth reading just for that alone. Thank you very much, Lynn. Good hearing from you, okay?

And by the way, even though I have not talked with him yet, Paul King's North, and Against the Machine is the name of the book. It's like Kings and then North. Paul King's North. Interesting guy. KMED, KMED, HD, HD, Eagle Point, Medford, KBXG grants pass. Service is the difference with sweetwater sanitation. Sunny in the day.

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great author, so much more, over at Dennis Powers Books.com with where past meets present. Hey, doctor, welcome back. Good Avenue. Always a pleasure, my friend. Today we are talking about just an amazing artist here in Southern Oregon, Southern Oregon Roots, and that would be Bill Phillips, William Phillips. And, in fact, I even brought in a book of Bill Phillips, of William Phillips, into the sunlit splendor, the aviation art of William S. Phillips,

and I'm holding it up to the Facebook Live. And the way that, well, his artwork is just absolutely incredible. And I'm wondering if you could share a little bit of his story. Just great stuff. It's a wonderful story. Very quickly, before we go into it, it. Veterans Day being tomorrow, and of course, Bill Phillips is a veteran. The Living Memorial Sculpture Garden outside of weed is having its ceremonies. We profiled it last

week. And that is tomorrow at 11 o'clock. But on Bill Phillips, which is really interesting, is the fact that he was born in Van Nuysville, California, in 1945. Instincter. drawn to art. And for Bill, he also had a love with flight, because when he was just, let's say, 12 years old, he would go ahead and spend his afternoons at the Van Nuys Airport watching the Air National Guard F-86s, and I remember those saber jets taking off and landing. So, of course, after high school, he enlisted in the Air Force. He was assigned later to the Portland Air Force Base because it had fighters, more advanced ones,

and so he bummed rides and everything, Bill, that came along. If there was a military plane, he got on it if he could, right? He did. He would wrangle reassignments and all different types of jet fighter airplanes. And then Bill spent one year in Vietnam. Vietnam, where he ran security and ambush patrols but didn't have dangerous contact with the Vett Kong. But after discharge, he goes ahead and attends SOU, Southern Oregon University, majoring in

criminal justice. He intended to enter law school. But what he kept going, because, you know, this is built to me, what's incredible, is these profiling is with people who have these passions. And yet they go ahead and they take care of their bills. They work in a way of working so they can get their bills paid, help their families, and then when they have the chance, head into their passions.

So what he was doing was self-teaching himself to do different types of painting in terms of also shadows. But then what happens is that he's 26 years old, and he decided to hang four of his World War I aircraft paintings in the Red Barron restaurant at the Medford Airport. This is the one that's up in that second story landing outside of the restaurant. And I can remember going through, and there's a little corridor where some of his paintings are being held up and hung.

But right before he'd hung his third painting bill, a stranger comes by and asks if they were for sale and bought all four for $100. And so this was the litmus test that said, you know, I can go ahead and make a living, but I need to be able to get my bills paid. So his wife was working with the school district, and he became a fireman, which means that's 24 hours on. 48 hours off. Is it, would he paint in the 48 hours off then? Is what he did? Yeah, yeah, he would. And I have friends of mine who are firemen.

It's a real, you know, all of a sudden, you go from wondering what to do in your off hours, you know, paint, contract, or whatever it is, to where it's absolutely risky and frightening when you're called to do a fire. and, of course, fire departments can really differ as to what they have their men and women doing in the off-fars to a certain extent. But in any event, Bill continues on this three-year self-education program where he would do everything and read everything and try old master styles and techniques. And it seems like he settled on, and I think when you look at Bill, at his, his paintings, at Bill Phillips's paintings, his style. Luminism is what he's going after, what you say in here.

And it is true because he uses, it's the light and it's the shading. It's the light that's really the star of his style, wouldn't you say? Yes, that's an excellent point because it goes back to the 19th century. It's landscape painting. It focuses on light and atmosphere in terms of subtle renderings of light. Bill Phillips is not only exquisite in terms of the aviation flight city documents, but also when you head to his website, which is on the script and post that we have, you'll see a number of different paintings that are exquisite that have to do with landscapes

and different types of non-aviation flight. But what happens, though, is it wasn't really until he was 30, where he had a big break and he was accepted as a member of the Air Force art program, which allowed him to focus on aviation art. But then what you have is that from there it snowballs, you know, commissioned paintings for the U.S. Air Force Academy, a one-man show at the Smithsonian National Air and Space Museum. He painted for King Hussein of Jordan, who commissioned a series of painting. I did not know this, Bill, but he also did the artwork for U.S. postage stamps. Oh, really? I didn't know that.

Yeah, I had no idea until I started really digging into this. He also has awarded a term as an artist in residence at the North Rim of the Grand Canyon, And this is very, very prestigious. He lives in Ashton at his artist studio. But when you go ahead and you look at his website, William Phillips.com, you see a real talented person who was able to have a life that was not one of starvation, but he just had to work much harder than the average person, especially those demonstrating in Chicago,

when he went ahead and did all these wonderful paintings, primarily the ones that he's known for, is actually not just built the various aviation pictures that he has, but also in terms of landscapes, sunsets, sunrises, lots of different things. Well, I'm just really impressed with his artwork, and one of my book treasures, like I mentioned, is the one that I brought in, which is just, I mean, just can't tell you how beautiful it is.

And you don't have to be a lover of aviation art to just go, it's just beautiful. The one I have is into the sunlit splendor. And it's just, I can't say enough good things. I'm glad you finally profiled him. Is this the first time you ever talked about, Bill? I think it is out of all these years. The first time we did here, we had, I had to work on it over a few months as we were coming up with the others that we were doing.

is what I always wanted to do. We had, I had a lead from a listener, but I really couldn't get to it because of all the other ones that we were doing. And then when you look at his website and you see that the diversity of what he's doing, you can see it's really a talent. And he has really built up there with painters that we have really profiled before, like Eugene Bennett, who is incredible. You know, we came into Peter Britt, who is really one of the icons.

Yeah, and I have a lot of admiration for artists because, of course, I don't know if I told you before, but I'm colorblind. I have trouble with reds and greens, and I would be the wrong guy to do interior designing. But I admire, and I can barely scrawl out my signature, but I have such admiration for people who are able to take what they see. see and put it to canvas, it just is really, really just an amazing skill to me, and I am in awe of those kind of individuals. Well, you know, we have the same feelings on this, because I do too. And, you know, the ability of people to continue to self-improve, like painting, and it's very seldom are you able to make a living at it, but then to watch this talent.

Yeah, and Bill was able to make a living at it, too. Big time. I'm glad. He did, and you know the key thing that I've been seeing and doing this for all these years with you, it's those who feel a passion. I mean, we always come across individuals, like I remember a contractor I had who wanted to be a rock and roll musician. And so we actually tried that for four or five years. And then he said, you know, I enjoyed it. I couldn't make a living. I had a family, so then I went ahead, and I became a contractor, and he was doing a very good job as a contractor here in Southern Oregon. But living your dreams is the hardest thing to do, you know, and think about what you've done with your various interests that you have,

and then you've been able to really settle in to what you've been doing for, oh, you start off, as I'm recalling, in terms of music. Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, the reason I'm in radio today was because of music back in high school, I think ultimately, and then as a young DJ and everything else. So I'll tell you what, great story. We'll share that here in just a bit here, Dr. Bernard Daylight. We've got to talk about the latest law fair. Okay. Are you ready? Okay. Really something. Yeah, let's go on a wild ride. That'll be coming up more on that with Dr. Powers next on the Bill Meyer show. If you're looking for a new vehicle that is the epitome of driving excellence, a great place to start, is Mercedes-Bed health-owned service not provided by Dish?

You're here in the Bill Myers Show on 1063, KMED. Dr. Dennis Powers, we're now here for the Lawfare portion of the program. Hey, Doc. Supreme Court ended up rejecting any talk of revisiting gay marriage, the gay marriage decision from 2010, or was that 2015, I forget. 2015, yeah. They wouldn't even touch that one. Is that, I think it's political. I think it's political.

There's no way they want to touch that hot potato. Do you agree with me or not? Well, they've taken on a lot of political hot potatoes that we will take a very quick look at in terms of political issues. But I think they kind of craft, I think that the court at that time more or less created a right to that out of unconstitutional cloth in my view, but I could be wrong. They did, and it was our chief justice that went ahead. It was a very close decision, five to four, Bill. And in any event, it was one to where they have so much on their plate like birthright citizenship that they could take it up again.

Actually, you could see it was one they really were saying as a group, let's get into that another time. Okay, got it. Now, my favorite story, though, Epic Times over the weekend, New York Attorney, Attorney General, rather, Letitia James, asking a federal judge in Virginia on November 7th to dismiss her mortgage fraud case saying that it is the case of selective prosecution. Now, I kind of chuckle at this because wasn't this what the Trump case was when it comes to it? Yeah, and whether it's Comey or whoever it is, to go ahead and to use this argument of vindictive prosecution is very ironic. they are jug shopping. They are, unfortunately, with Leticia James, she's coming into a Democratic appointed district court. And what's going to happen is that all that she has to do is to get into this

friendly confines saying vindictive prosecution. And what we've seen before, Bill, which is really to dismay is the fact that district court judges and to an extent federal court of appeal judges are just really saying, I don't want to go ahead and really rule for the administration on this because I'm going to have Intifah outside of my doorsteps. So whether we want to admit it or not, politics does have a play in it. Now, I want to then redirect then. I think it's fear. Yeah, yeah.

I wanted to redirect then into when we had, what was it? judge an immigrant ended up, was a judge immigrant that ordered the Trump administration? Was she the one that ordered the Trump administration to pay the SNAP benefits, to order them to pay them? No, that was another one. Oh, okay. But immigrant, immigrant was there, Trump appointee, who you can say and see, being her location in Oregon, is certainly going to very quickly go ahead and rule any way that she can't. Yeah, but how can it... Okay, but seriously, how can any court order a president to pay... Oh. You know, any, I mean, any of them, now I know that, what was it, uh, Catanji Brown Jackson ended up staying that deal about paying SNAP, but, you know, once the money's not

there, if the money's not appointed by Congress and Congress is shut down, what are you to pay with? What? Is Donald Trump supposed to write the check himself? I start wondering if this is the way these people are thinking. On that issue, I couldn't agree. more, and it's not an immigrant case, it's another one. But on the other hand, this Democratic judge at the district court level was ordering really for political purposes, because one of the things you're seeing about judges that they're very, you know, they're human. They make mistakes. They also want to get promotions. And how are you going to get a promotion? Well, you rule for who you think will come in an office, like hopefully Trump will not.

be able to have a successor in three and a half years. Oh, so this is putting down a marker for the future then, right? Like, hey, I backed you off when you needed it, right? But you know, my friend, it's worse than that because this was totally orchestrated. See, law fair is orchestrated with the far left Communist Party. It's orchestrated. So isn't it suspicious, my friend, that you have this government shutdown up to then all of a sudden the lawsuit is brought in about a week ago, you should pay snap for the poor. And so you get it into a friendly little jurisdiction that says yes. And we'll put an injunction on that says, Mr. President, you've got to pay all the snap, including the illegal immigrants that are all on it. This is a

civil war, and when people get into the details where the devil is, they are going to get out and start voting, because that's what happened last Tuesday. People were sitting back there snoozing, and the far-lefted source came in and just snapped off exactly these illusions. And this was all orchestrated, so the Supreme Court, my friend, went ahead and said, oh, the injunction is wrong. And didn't we tell all of you to quit these damn injunctions? Yeah, I didn't hear that, but all right, so, Doc, final question I have for you this morning, though, has to do with President Trump's tariff programs. They were heard last week in front of the Supreme Court. And, I mean, I've read at least most of the law, the emergency law that he is citing for the tariffing power.

I also can read the Constitution where the tariffing power is vested, all revenue raising is vested in Congress, not in the president. and it appeared to me that the justice is almost all, with maybe the exception of, I don't know, of maybe Gorsuch, maybe Gorsuch and who is the other one I thought might have been leaning, Clarence Thomas, we're kind of maybe leaning there. But what is your overall take? Because I think he's going down on this particular decision. What do you think?

Okay. Here is where the concepts or the devil, is really in the details. One, Congress, as you point out, underneath the Constitution only has the right to regulate foreign commerce and institute taxes, too. Did Congress delegate this power? And can you really delegate a power legally? Yeah, they've given up on the fact that they can delegate certain powers.

It's a certain constitutional law subject by itself, but they're not attacking on that, although they'll probably throw it in as one of their many types of specifics. But then three, that means that the only one that could come in on this particular argument is the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, or EPA. Now, that turns on the fourth, a very important concept, is just on the word regulate. In there, Congress delegated to a president, the power, to regulate, not to tax, but to regulate import. And what happens here is that that means that on this specific language,

what would happen is that I think you're right. I think this is going to be a problem. Yeah, I'm not saying I'm happy about whether a terrorist or good or terrorists or bad. It's a tool out there. But I was always concerned about him going in this direction for that. reason. But of course, there's always the possibility that the Supreme Court looks at the economic disruption that could come by voting against the president. Might that be the strategy here of the Trump administration? Yeah, Bill, two things on that one. Good points.

The first thing is the fact that this is not on all tariffs, and that it's just on this act and it's possible that our chief justice might go ahead on the Affordable Care Act where he really said, oh, this wasn't a tax and really wrote a really cheesy decision to uphold Obamacare. That's an alternative. But on the other hand, given the fact that they go ahead and say no, I need EPA, that is imposing on new tariffs. Several other tariffs, the number of ones will stay in effect, that come underneath different other legislation. Congress has been busy. Steel, aluminum, that's a different section, a different act.

China called Section 301 tariffs, which is a Trade Act of 1974. There are other different ones that go there. But the key thing here is that it focused the litigation, the devil's in the details, bill, on the reciprocal tariffs, which was this baseline of 10% in most countries and then country-specific rates and others. There are other EPA tariffs, such as what people have been making a big deal about, the 40% tariff in Brazil originated goods, that on that, they're not being directly challenged. So it's going to be a mess. But on the other hand, it's not what is being put on.

on the drive-by-fish wrapper media, all tariff, it's more complicated and more detailed. Do you believe, though, that President Trump's tariffing authority, as he's used it, though, will be restricted and or eliminated in this case by the Supreme Court? I know betting on the Supreme Court's always a tough one, I know. But, you know, it seemed pretty obvious where they were going, but I could be reading this totally wrong. Well, I think you're reading it right, Bill, because when you look at all the other cases that have been coming down, having to do with drag shows, and the SNAP programs, trans identification on passports, all these things are dealing with thanks to Far Left Kami, Obama, Mandami. Yeah, but they had given him, the Supreme Court has actually given him a lot of wins, right? Well, they have because they have followed the law, because what's happening here is with this lawfare, as a civil war legally, and we're seeing it in terms of riots. There is a civil war going on, and my message really is, you know, and I talk, and I'm lucky, Bill, like you do, I talk with others out of state, and they say, what in the hell is happening to Oregon? I said, well, you went the way of California. We've got to really wake up fight.

and get out the vote. Yeah, oh, that is for sure. But we'll just have to see. I think that I'll be curious to see how Supreme Court decides on this. Now, it could be several weeks, though, before they come out with a decision, right? Yeah, it could, Bill. And on the issue of timing, as you're pointing out, it could even be towards the end of the year, but this is expedited, and so you would think it might come out sooner than that,

and we would hope so. But this is part of the Civil War that's going on that started beneath a bomb and bomb enforced it. Yep, still going. All right, Dennis. Hey, we'll talk you next Monday. Appreciate you coming on, all right? It's always my pleasure, and it's you have the best, both you and Linda. All right, you too.

We'll talk next Monday. Dr. Dennis Power is retired professor of business law on KMED. This hour of the Bill Myers Show is sponsored by Fontana Roofing. For roofing gutters and sheet metal services, visit fontanarroofing services.com. Braistorming continues at the... We make insurance easy. News Talk 1063, KMED. This is the Bill Myers Show.

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frankly. Yeah, Verizon is just way dominant over AT&T. If you have U.S. cellular T-Mobile boost, any of those, they're all on AT&T. And the coverage here isn't that great. And it's just the way it goes. So you just got to go where the coverage is for sure here. So you said that if you mention my name, you'll what, get an anti-radiation sticker. I want to make sure I get this right here.

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You can even put them on your microwave. Okay. Now, I'm a little curious about this because I would have thought that if you put anything that would be an anti-radiation sticker would make it next, would make the phone not work that well. Is that other case? It blocks the EMS, I guess. Yeah, well, okay, so it must be maybe it's directional, keeps it from going to your head. Maybe that's the important part.

That could be it. I don't talk on the phone next to my head. I always put my phone on speaker. Me too. I feel like I'm safer that way. Yeah, me too. If you come in the store before Thanksgiving and just come talk to me, tell me what your situation is. I'll give you a little sticker, EMF sticker, just for, you know, coming in and talking to you.

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Hey, appreciate you being on, open for business, Charisse. Be well. Thanks, Bill. Thanks again. It is 855. Cision and performance. Choose Stephen Westfall Roofing. There's 60 today. Hi, I'm Michael, Gage of Construction, and I'm on KMED.

856 in Change, and I think we only have time for one call this morning. We'll have more tomorrow on pebbling your shoe Tuesday. Wild Sam and Steve, you promised you were going to talk about what Lynn and I were talking about, I think, about the cultural debris of Christianity left over, or the debris of it left over. What are you thinking? Well, there's a lot of influences that have always taken place over individuals, and we all have to make choices to quote King Solomon to everything.

There is a season and a time and a purpose for everything under heaven. Once you start out as a kid, you end up as an adult, you're 60, you're 70, pretty quick, you're 80, and you wonder what the heck is going on. Jordan Peterson, I'm sure most people know who he is, wrote a book called We Who Wrestle with God, which is about the Old Testament and all the characters that are in the Old Testament, not all of them, but many of them. C.S. Lewis, another famous author who wrote about Christianity, and all I would say to people is you're going to be old someday.

Are you going to just go off and not exist, or in the area of religion, are you going to go to heaven, or are you going to go to some other place? Well, that talk I had with Lynn about King's North's book, though, you know, against the machine, is certainly talking about the way people are feeling right now because the Christian story has been somewhat vanquished,

has it not? you know, the societal underpinning? Especially young people have been terribly affected by this because they have no purpose. You know, the machine has pushed people away from relationships and marriage and children. And I think there's a bounce back happening, at least if you listen to the news and the Charlie Kirk, you know, Turning Point USA thing. And I think that people are looking for some purpose in life. And you can find it, but you have to look for it. And in terms of each individual, it's up to you to choose what you do.

Now, there are people out there. There are forces out there. All right. Hey, we'll have to pick it up again tomorrow, Wild Sam and Steve, okay? We're just out of town. Out of time, rather. And out of town also. Markley Van Cabin-Robbins coming up after Fox News,

which is next. We'll see you tomorrow on Tuesday.