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The Bill Myers Show podcast is sponsored by Klausur drilling. They've been leading the way in southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausorrilling.com. State representative of Dwayne Yunker joins me, and I want to bring him on because it was reading over the weekend. Just a insane hit piece, and it's so blatantly a hit piece. Oregon lawmakers quietly hire their family members with taxpayer money and little oversight, and guess who is at the top? of it. Why, that would be Dwayne Yonker. Hello, Dwayne. Good morning, Bill. And I saw that and I let you know that I was looking at this, and it's, it is so obvious that it, by the way,

apparently only Republicans hire their, their family members to help be legislative aids and things like that. We know that's not the case. It's a really interesting, shall we say, omission, isn't that right? Are you seeing? Well, yeah, it was amazing that I was on top of the list, even though my wife makes the less amount of everybody because he's only very part-time. But I was still the hit piece. That was the main part of the whole hit piece. And obviously they were focused on me, and we know why they're focused on me. You know, and I know what it was.

I mean, I'm a big target. So it comes along with having a voice like myself, you know, that I'm. have out there. Could you tell us, though, how it actually is structured these days, because what Herman was telling me that in the history of the legislature, they ended up putting pay equity in there a few years ago, which really boosted the cost of a lot of the people that you would hire, and it used to be a lot less, but the legislature passed a law and changed that. I don't know when that happened. Could you maybe enlighten us a bit? Yeah, I don't know when the pay equity It was done before I came to office two years ago.

So what happens is you hire an employee, and they go through the state system, I think it's DAS or whatever, and they figure out what they're worth, and that's what it is. You have no negotiating there. The state pays them what they're worth. But, you know, Herman was right when he was talking about because I heard you talking. I'm giving a budget for my every two years. You get a budget, and I have to stay within that budget. So it is what it is.

I can't go over the budget, and they don't pay if my staff needs a place to stay in Salem. They don't pay for that. They don't pay for travel. So the per diem that you get when the legislature is in does not apply to your staff members, right? No, no. So I have one staff member that lives in Vancouver that is using the capital with me. And then she's been down here a few times. I think you've met her, Mary Best.

Oh, yeah. Time for me. Yeah. Yeah, I'll talk to us. She's my full-time, Chief of Staff. We just went to D.C. I had to pay for that. And my wife went, too. We all went.

The state didn't pay for that. Taxpayers didn't pay for that. It was all, you know, either out of my pocket or I have to use campaign money. That's how it works. So you can use campaign money for something like that. that. Okay. I can use campaign money that. It's so important to raise money because I don't get paid enough. I made $37,000 a year. And as you can tell, I'm working at this job all the time. It's taken away my full-time job as a relative. I really struggle right now because

I put this job first as a state representative. And what role does your wife, Gina, play you know, in this. And is it a full-time $6,000 a month salary or was it only during the legislative session? How does that work? Can you help us out? No, she, yeah, she is, you got to remember she has a master's degree. I put this on Facebook. She has a master's education, which I'm on the committees for education, and she has a business degree, and she used to be in the tech industry before we got married back in the day. So she has, she's very well, so she is my advisor. I pay her approximately, I think it's 16 hours a week right now, is advising me going through, you know, giving me knowledge.

I'm not a teacher. You know what I'm saying? I'm on education. And so what better know to have someone that has the knowledge of education that's kind of a teacher administrator at her school. And so she knows this. She knows anything about teaching that, I mean, she's been in the business for 15 years. Do you have to be present at the legislative session in order to be an aide?

Because that seems to be something that the Oregonian hit piece is making a big deal about. No, there's no requirements for anybody to be in the building other than myself. I mean, I don't have to have staff there in the office. Here's another thing is the building is empty 90% of the time. You know, if you went there today and walked around the second, third, fourth floor, there's not going to be anybody working there. They all work remote. Everybody works remote there.

But if Gina works remote, it's because there's something to do going on. The insinuation is what is coming out of this. And all the other Republicans that were part of this piece. Yeah, and all the Democrats are working remote, too. their people are not working in the building go there today go to the second floor or all the that's the Democrat floor and then the fourth there's going to be nobody working the front desk because there's an app that fords the phone to their cell phone my chief of staff works remote too she works out of her house in Vancouver okay no one's in the building there's no one's in the

building there's no requirement to work in the building I do not or any other others there does not have to have staff at the desk now I do do, and most of us... But they conflate that with something being wrong, right? That's what they're trying to do, or trying to paint the picture. Exactly. Like, there's something there. Well, there's nobody in the building.

You know, I mean, there is some in the building, but most of the staff, even our caucus staff is mostly out of the building when no one's there. And they might come in here and there, but most of them will be gone because you can work remote, Zoom calls. I do a lot on Zoom. And then, well, let's talk about the emails, too. This was weird. So I've had records request of my emails three times in less than two years.

So I don't email very, very, very often. My wife doesn't send emails at all. Only person that sends emails correspondence is my chief of staff. Every once in a while, I do respond or what I do is I flagged my emails or I forward them to Mary Beth that works for me. And she answers them all. That's how we do it because they're after me. That's just the thing. They're after me.

So, yeah, yeah, don't put anything in writing that you don't want Tina Kotech slobbering over, right? Exactly. So you have to be strategic. It is a political war. That's what I'm in. It's a political war. You know, Congress emails in Congress, they're not FOIA requested, but the state

legislators are. Yeah, so you have to be pretty careful about what he has said. I get that. I certainly understand. and this is I mean it's so blatantly an attack piece here and and the fact that they ignore the organ now this is something I wanted to ask though is there a possibility that now that there is pay equity since the legislature put in pay equity and family members are getting what let's say used to be going to let's say a Salem area office type person is there a possibility that this attack is about changing it so that you have have no choice but to hire Democrats in the Salem area to be your trusted aides. I mean, I'm being serious when I say that. I'm not just engaging in hyperbole.

I have to wonder what is the real, you know, the real agenda in play here. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what the agenda. I think that more of the agenda was the attacks on me. I mean, personally, it's the Oregonian, you know what I'm saying? I think the only reason they hit Representative Javity is because... He's a turn code now. Yeah, he's a turn code.

He's expendable. You know, I know several other Democrats that have family members working for them. I don't know what they do. And I really do... It's none of my business, really. I mean, what they do in their office is their office. That's how you run... It's like a mini business, you know what I'm saying?

and they run it they way they need to run it I mean I don't know I mean I would think that Democrats want more control but I wouldn't hire anybody

working for me because I can't I don't trust people yeah let me ask you this then do we cheap out in the state of Oregon when it comes to legislative pay I mean the actual you know the

governor and state reps and state senators what's your opinion about that well Well, I think it's really interesting that an equity officer, that one that, you know, filed those, you know, those harassment, whatever, not harassed, but... Yeah, the DEI stuff. The DEI stuff, yeah.

Yeah. She makes $300,000 some thousand dollars with benefits, and the governor makes under $100,000. I would do think that's a little odd, honestly. Mm-hmm. And I would say that... Yeah, the hired help is making a lot. more than the actual elected leaders. That is interesting, isn't it? Yeah. And I would ask the people, you know, do you think I'm worth more than $37,000 a year?

I would think you are. I think I am, too. So, you know, I work my butt off with this thing constantly. I'm always trying to inform the public, keep things go, I'm fighting. I'm a big voice. I mean, do you want people that represent you that are worth something or you want people to just get $437,000. You know, only the rich people will be able to do this, super rich. I mean,

those are the questions to ask is, do you only want super rich people or people with other ways of me, you know, I know some Democrats that also use their campaign money for paying for some of their age. You know, and I'm not trying to spend more money. I just think

this is a nothing burger. You know, same. All right. State Representative Dwayne Yonker. I appreciate you coming on. I know you're on the road, so I got you off the road to have this little talk. So keep it between the lines and be safe out there. Okay, we'll talk soon. All right.

Bill, thank you so much. All right. State Representative Yonker. It is 822 at KM.E.D. and 993 KBXG. Yeah, I was just really fulminating over that over the weekend. It is just so naked. It's like no one's even trying to be fair

at the Oregonian and the The only ones they were going after are the people that have to drive hours and hours and hours to get to Salem. Hmm. Got to love that. All right. Now we're going to have a pallet cleanser. We're going to take care of your palate and make you happy. Diner 62 Real American Quiz.

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three to five-year-olds get ready for kindergarten. And it was set in a fictional New York neighborhood. From the show's inception, one of its most loved aspects has been a family of puppets, known as the Muppets to create a cast of characters that became institutions. Now, for the win this morning for Diner 62, which socialized public television character, sorry, I couldn't help it get political, but which character or characters appeared first? On the very first A, was it A, the cookie monster?

Was it B, Burton Ernie, rather? Was it C, Kermit the Frog? Was it D, Big Bird, or E, Oscar, the Grouch? What do you say? It's one of those five. Cookie Monster, Bert Nernie, Kermit, the Frog, Big Bird, or Oscar? What do you say? I'm just going to guess and say, Big Bird.

Big Bird, good as guess as any. It's not. I'm sorry, John. Let me go to another John who has been patiently waiting. Hello, John. Hi. All right. So it's not Big Bird.

First character appeared on the broadcast debut. Was it The Cookie Monster, Bird and Ernie, Kermit the Frog, or Oscar the Grouch? What do you say? Oh, I'd have to guess I wasn't there for that. So how about Kermit? Kermit the Frog, good guess. It's not the one either. Sorry, let me go to Peggy.

Peggy's here. Hello, Peggy. We're getting down here. So let's see. So we hit Kermit the Frog. So it's either Cookie Monster, Burton, Ernie, or Oscar the Grouch. very first character debuted. Burt Nernie.

Bert Nernie! You're a way! Yeah! Burt and Ernie, first Muppets to appear, debuting in the first test pilot episodes, other characters, Big Bird, Oscar the Grouch also appeared in the first season. Bert Nernie featured in the earliest test pilots,

and they liked them, and they were taking a cue from Rowan and Martin's laughing. If you remember that, are you old enough to remember? Oh, yeah. Yeah, me too. and I was just a little kid when that was out there. A lot of the humor of Rowan and Martin went over my head, I think, at that time.

But, yeah, I saw a little bit of Sesame Street when I was a kid, too. All right. I'll tell you why, we're going to send you to Diner's 62, which is not subsidized unlike public television. Of course, public television is no longer being subsidized, and they're kind of squeaking at the moment, aren't they, Peggy? Just a little bit more. Yes, I need my pancake, Bill.

All right, hang on. It's 830 at KMED, and we'll continue this. It's the Bill Meyer Show on Pebble and your shoe Tuesday, 770-5633. If you got a pebble. I say it if you have a pebble. When it comes to buying or selling a house, you don't do KMED. By the way, my email is built at Billmire's show.com. Tomorrow, Christine Drazen is going to be here, not here, but on the phone.

Good talk with her. 8-10. Do you have a question you'd like to ask, Christine? email bill at billmyers show.com, okay? All right. Something else I was talking about. We got Matt from Grant's Pass. Matt, always good to have you on. Hey, before we get on to your question or your comment here, I had to ask you, this 50-year mortgage mortgage, that's not going to work, right? But you agree with me on that much, or am I wrong about that? But I say, if anything, we should be reducing the mortgage loans, and then that way we'll actually deflate the real estate bubble.

What do you think? You and I had a similar experience, as I mentioned, about, like, when we bought our homes, how much we paid, that whole process. And when I had a chance, when I moved to Oregon, I still had like an eight and a half or nine percent mortgage rate. And over time, I refinanced it when it got really low. But when it got down, I was able to, I think the last time I refinanced my house, and this is going back decades ago, but it was at like five and three eighths for 15 years. I bumped it down to a 15-year mortgage to, you know, reduce the price I would ultimately pay for the house. So I am not on board with a 50-year mortgage, but Bill, I can't believe people take out seven to 10-year loans for an $80,000 pickup truck. I know.

So I can't. But you see, but that's a symptom. But you see, that's a symptom, that's a symptom of the ridiculous inflation sloshing through the economy. I mean, it's, you know, that's a reaction to it. That's also government rules on car making, too, and limitation. You know, you don't have to have an $80,000 pickup truck. You know that. They don't have to be $80,000.

Bill, 40 years ago, I came up with my armchair economist. I have a few things. One of them is, how much would it cost to buy a new car if you couldn't finance it? If there was no financing, you couldn't finance it. And that's what I was getting at too here with the leverage of 30 or, in some cases, 50 years, which is what President Trump is talking about. It would be nonsense, in my opinion. But please, give me your take.

Well, my take is this. One of the things that, like the first year and a half of his first term, he used to drive me crazy with some of the stuff he would say. And then when I read his book, I realized I go, okay, I get it now. And you and I have talked about this on air. But from my perspective, he just throws stuff out there, like trial balloons. Yeah, and to see what sticks is what he's talking about. What's that? To see what sticks, really.

That's right. He's just seeing, hey, let me throw that idea out there. I guess if I was in a meeting with him in his cabinet and they were talking about, you know, I don't know, blowing these drug boats out of the water, he would throw something out and just say, what do you guys think about that idea? And, you know, Rubio and some other people in the room, maybe it's, you know, military staff would say, ah, you know, that might be a little bit much. Yeah. And then say, well, how about if we just blow these boats out of the water and we know they're carrying drugs? That would probably be okay. They're pinpricks.

It's not starting a war. It just sends a message. So, anyway, that's kind of what I've learned from him as far as, like, how he does things. He likes to throw things out there and kind of get some feedback. But, well, actually, the reason I called. Yeah, after all that, but I know you're a money guy, so I wanted to ask you here. To me, I think we should be working our economy to try to own things sooner rather than being in debt for a longer period in order to have them. That's the way I'm looking at it.

But that's me. Well, 30-something years ago, when I was a stockbroker, I would have people come in and we'd sit down and have a conversation. For a lot of them, these people were in their mid-50s, and they were taking early retirement from the local phone company. and it was the first time in their life they actually sat down and looked at their financial situation people were blown away when I would sit in front of them and actually write down the things they would tell me and then I would just hand them the paper back and they would look at it and say we're in trouble because they would have two car payment and this is California where you're keeping up with the Joneses anyway yeah they would have two car

payments a house payment a couple of kids looking to go to college there were years away from taking these early retirement buyout packages from the phone company, they were just thinking, oh, I'll just get a little side hustle, and I'll be able to handle it, and they find out. And they keep in mind, this is going back in 1993. People, they'd have to have $6,000 rolling in just to pay their bill every month. And the husband and wife were both working, now the husband who was making twice what the wife was making at the phone company, that income's now gone. scratch my head and go, God, they'd leave the office. And I go, what are these people thinking? You know? But that's, unfortunately, that's, that's kind of the situation. What's that guy's name?

The financier guy, Dave Ramsey. Yeah. I used to listen to that guy quite a bit like decades ago. He's right. He's right. So my advice to people is this, look, if you're looking at retirement, pay off everything before you do. Pay off your car. And if you think you need a new car, go ahead and buy you. buy it a couple of years before retirement, make sure it's paid off, pay off your house, pay out your car. Make sure the only thing you have are like groceries and your power bill and your trash bill and things like that. And don't forget property tax. Yeah, you know, and at some states you get a better break than others. But yeah, property taxes, just the things that you know

you have to pay on an ongoing basis to sustain. And then when you do that, then you can relax. If you've got enough money that's kicking off some interest income and you've got Social Security and stuff, it's amazing how cheap you really can live in America. It really is. I'm just amazed, though, that there's any talk about trying to extend the amount of time that we're debt serves. You know, that's the last thing I want to see our country go to, okay? Well, then my question back to you is should we have a, should we sell 50-year bonds? 50-year bonds? A 50-year bond.

Boy, are we? I don't know, do we? We're not. We haven't done it. Listen. It could be coming, though, right? Possibly, but here's the thing. The opportunity for that was when interest rates were damn near zero.

That was the opportunity. And Trump floated that of refinancing our debt for 50 years and locking in that low interest rate. What we had during Biden, because they didn't want to have to face high interest rates, that idiot, Yellen kept refinancing all of our treasury. But she did it short term, didn't she? He did it short term, because she knew this bomb was going to go off. When rates went up, we were going to have to refinance all this stuff, like, in the near term, as opposed to locking in those interest rates for the long term.

You know something? That is the classic example, Matt, of we used to have a smarter, more plugged-in elite than we do now. We just don't have the same class of elite we once did in this country, seriously, you know? Oh, my gosh. Okay, so my head's about to explode. All right. Well, okay, I want to make sure we get to what you were calling about here because I'm Bernie, but I always like it when you call in. I really do. I always enjoy talking. Let me just say this last thing on that. All right. The problem is that you need business people to run the government. I don't care what anybody says. When you have academic running the treasury and even looking at Powell, who's the Fed chair, and you look at his financial background, he does have a pretty expensive financial background, but he's an attorney by education, okay? I had a very smart CEO I used to know said to me,

if you let an attorney run your business, you'll have no business. You just, they're risk of birth. Their risk of birth. Yeah. And so this whole thing of refinancing was 100% political to refinance on the short term. It was financial suicide, and that's what they did. And I'm so angry about just that one aspect because she was doing it.

I knew what she was doing. Yeah, I get it. All right. Now then. You're talking about Will K. on Fox was doing something the other day. I think this is interesting because you and I have been talking a bit about this on the medical expenses, why it is so expensive. Obamacare doesn't work. It's too expensive. It's unaffordable. All the rest of it, it's

there. Go ahead. Okay. So this falls into my special category of what takes them so long. I can't believe it took until yesterday for someone like Will Kane. And I love Will Kane because I used to really like him on ESPN. He was on there with Stephen A. Smith's quite a bit. it. And he's showing it basically a chart, an EPS, of the insurers and how much those things have gone up in price, you know, their stock prices and stuff. I don't know why it took so long for somebody to say, hey, maybe we should start showing a stock chart of all these insurance companies and how much money, the executives and all the people, the shareholders, you know, BlackRock,

I'm sure, owned a ton of that stock and all this. I can't believe it took them this long to say, what are we doing? And look, Trump, this is another tribal. He floated at the other other day. I know. He said, hey, maybe we should just take the $20,000 we're giving to the insurance company and give it to the people and say, now go shop. And by the way, starting now, you can shop insurance across state line. Good. They finally got that passed. All right. Now, the thing is, you know, you're right. The challenge that we have with Obamacare and everything about it is that it was written by the insurance companies. Yes, it was. And you can't help but notice that the insurance companies soared and inflated out of existence of their stock prices after having

written Obamacare. You cannot ignore that. And if you do, you're a fool. From $50 to $500, $600 a share. Yep. Over 15 years. Well, yeah. Well, look, what happens? You're the ones that's directing it, and you're forcing, well, you're forcing everybody to buy your product. You have the government forcing everybody to buy it, right? I mean, think about this. You literally go to an insurance, company with your fellow taxpayers' money to pay your insurance premium. Okay, I'll just say this one more time, and I know you have other people who want to talk. Yeah. I'll just say this.

The problem for me with this health care, not insurance, health care. Nobody knew how much health care should cost. I told you this. I've said it three or four times on air over the last several years. an MRI for my neck and my skull was 4,400, almost 1,500 at the hospital, 950 at the surgeon, and 780 if I went and paid up front and then filed my own insurance paperwork. The thing is, is we never talked about what health care should cost. I had to go to the doctor once when I was a kid.

We never went to the doctor. You rubbed dirt on it and you move on, right? I went once because I got a concussion. I got knocked out playing on a swing set. I think it cost my mother 40 bucks, if I remember correctly. And that was it. What changed? What changed?

That's what I, listen, anytime the government gets involved with college, subsidizing college, subsidizing health care, subsidizing anything, it always costs more because people can raise their prices. If they, it goes back from my original comment here, right? How much would a car cost if you couldn't finance it? What could Ford charge for a truck if you couldn't finance it? If they had to sell you... Yeah, if they had to sell you a car or a truck without financing, if it had to be cash on the barrel, it would probably be one of those things where 10 to 15 grand, it would be something that you could actually fling some cash around and save up for, something realistic.

Other than that, no $80,000 truck, period. Yeah, there are structural things within the economy, input costs and other things that don't need to be as high as they are due to regulation, taxes, all kinds of things. You eliminate a lot of that stuff. Look, prices are coming down. if you look at a three-year chart of gas, for example, of crude oil, it's definitely on a downtrend. I don't know what the bottom is. You know, producers are saying, hey, you know, 60 bucks, we make profit, 55 bucks. Yeah, I know, but, you know, people aren't feeling good at the grocery store, and that's a big one.

That's why the Republicans are paying more attention to that. I got a roll here, but thank you for the call. It went longer, but, you know, I drilled you with a bunch of other things, money, guy. Okay? Thanks. I appreciate it. You have a good. All right, you too, Del. All right.

I want to make sure we get a couple more people in before we wrap it. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome. Good morning. This is Kathy. Hi, Kathy. Go ahead.

Hi. I just was noodling around. And I don't know if you addressed this yesterday, because I thought you were going to be off yesterday. The Citizen Joe guy who called in about paying if you didn't vote. Oh, Citizen Crabs. I nicknamed him Citizen Crabs, Mike Krebs. Yeah, I know he's awesome. But, I mean, if that ever did go through, it would be fantastic because you'd have to use ID to vote.

Very true. So we have to get over that part of it first. And then maybe we'll get some true voting. Imagine that. Thanks for the call. Great one. Good one. That was pithy to the point.

Hi, good morning. Who's this? Not so crazy. Hello, Jane. Yeah, hello. I was just calling the state that I know whether there's an old copper mine and an old silver mine up East Devon's Creek Road. And, well, if the governor would choose she won't, would allow us to mine those, the state might have a little more money, real money. Copper.

The copper mine, where is that now? It's up East Devon's Creek. And the old silver mine, the War Eagle, is not too many miles away from that. Is it played out, though? I don't think so. I mean, I just think that they ran out of money and ran out of time, and they just left, and they just left it setting. All right. I appreciate it.

I wouldn't know about that. Maybe some people in the mining world can let us know, because mining, of course, as you well know, is a very capital-intensive. Oh, yeah. And you have to know that you'd have enough to an assay of the deposit, and maybe most of the low-hanging fruit, so to speak, was picked. I don't know. I appreciate the call. Thank you. All right.

And we'll take one more on Pebble in Your Shoe Tuesday. Hi, good morning. Hello. My name is Sheila. Sheila. Love it. Yep. What's up?

So I'm not really sure how the Pebble in your shoe Tuesday works, but... You call in with something... A pebble in your shoe is something which is bugging you, and you would like to release the stress from it, okay? Okay. Okay. Well, I'll start with this one. So there...

Actually, he was talking about copper mining and silver mining up East Evans. Yes. When, you know, there's the company out of Canada that just purchased 196 mines, I believe, over here just in Cape Junction area, Selma, to mine the nickel. They're going to be strip mining for nickel over here. And I think that it's deplorable to do that. and on a hush-hush, because they're in all kinds of major watersheds, but Josephine Creek all the way over to the coast by Gold Beach and stuff. And I just think it's going to tear up our land.

It's going to make, there's going to be sad repercussions. Are you sure about that because mining is tightly regulated? It's one of the most tightly regulated industries there is. I don't know. That's a lot of dirt off the mountain. If you look at up there in, um... Now, is it a strip mine, though? Do you know, you know that it is a strip mine?

That's the only way to, that's the only way to get the nickel. Hmm. All right. I'm not familiar with this one, so I'm going to have to look this up. So, who bought it, do you know, off the top of your head? It is, oh, um, oh, my gosh. So you wouldn't have asked me, I would have been able to tell you. Okay.

It was, uh, I don't know, there's a company in, um, Out at Ruff and Reddy that is part owner in it, they currently mine on the east side of Ruff and Reddy on Wood Creek Mountains. So I'm not sure I can't remember the name of the place. Okay, I see here a Woodcock Mountain Cobalt Nickel prospect near Cave Junction. Is this what you're talking about? Well, yes, that's the one that's already like inactive, but I was referring to the ones that they bought the Out by Joseph Bing. Ah, okay.

I think I found what you're talking about. Homeland nickel. Homeland nickel. There we go. Okay. So I'm going to read up on that because there's more to it than I can just talk about it in a 30-second what's left at our call here. Okay. I'll look into that, okay, and see what kind of mining they're talking about.

Do you mind? Yes. All right. No, that's awesome. All right. Thank you for the call. Appreciate that very much. It's 852.

Stephen West. I'm Lisa with Kelly's Automotive Service, and I'm on KMED. Not only is she on KMED, she's here at KMED, Network and Action once again. Yeah, you know, I'm on, just upplate. Okay. Yeah, you didn't hear that. She doesn't have headphones on, so she didn't know. But I knew, all right.

But Lisa Kelly is here, and it's open for business time, and we love to talk with the folks from Network and Action. Tell us a little bit, first off, how people can become a member of Network and Action and why they would wish to become a member of Network and Action. So they can go to S-O-networking.com. com, kind of check it out, reach out, have an interview with me, and then I'll either invite them to a meeting or let them know if I think they're a good fit. And again, what's the real purpose of it, though, again?

The purpose is to get together once a month, not every week, and network with each other, learn and grow as people, as professionals, and of course to grow their business. So like today, we have our Christian meeting, and we're focusing on unreasonable hospitality. It's a book, and I've created an agenda around it, and we're going to live. learn how to take your customer service to another level, how to acknowledge people in ways that they would never even imagine. Unreasonable hospitality. I love the name of that. Can you give me kind of the basics of that? Yeah, so it's based on an 11-11 Madison, Madison, a book called from a restaurant, 11-Madison Park in New York City. And basically, it's a

fine dining restaurant, one of those ones with white gloves. And the owner overheard somebody saying, we've done all this great stuff here we've done all these things eating at all these great places but we never had a new york hot dog so he ran down the street got a hot dog convinced his chef to cut it in four pieces and serve it to these people so he took something that wasn't even on his menu and just created an experience so how can we as business owners do that with our clients and with each other so for my members how can you come together and create something special Provide something special. Yeah.

And what's really interesting about that is that, I've got to tell you, a customer service is just going to heck, especially in the big customer service businesses and things like that. It's like, oh, no, oh, no, it's the phone tree. Oh, no, it's an AI phone tree. You know, you get to that point, you know? Yeah, or, you know, you feel like you're interrupting their phone time to ask them to do something for you. I love it when someone says, no problem.

No, I know I'm not a problem. I'm your customer. Gosh darn it. Okay, let me. Who did you bring today? One of your members here. You want to talk about them. Yes, I brought Mark Saunders from Palm Industries. He's one of our newer members. All right. Hey, Mark, great to have you. Welcome. Thanks for having me. Step up right there to the microphone. Tell us a little bit about your business. So Palm Industries is now Palm Restore. We have the satin black vehicles. We just wrapped 24 vehicles. And you'll see us around town. It says Palm Restore. So restoration industry. We started on the coast in Brookings. We still have a branch there. And we service Crescent City to Cus Bay. And then over here, White Rika to Clameth Falls and everything in between. So water damage, fire damage, mold remediation, structural damage, and trauma repair. So you ended up, in other words, when the disaster strikes, you're the person who calls. Correct. All right. All right. Now, this is when I ask you, what is the worst you ever saw?

Oh, my goodness. Give me an example. How much can I disclose here? So, uh, okay, without, well, without telling them who they are. So, um, the worst that I've seen, uh, obviously, trauma cleanups are going to be are the most difficult ones for us. Those are, those are never easy on the, on the water damage side. I mean, collapsing ceilings. And then if somebody's out of town and they're gone for two or three weeks, it's the smell in there is horrendous when we come back. You essentially are the person that is brave enough to go in when the rest of us are going, just staring and like glassy eye to what's going on, right? Yeah, yeah. So we want to take that from these people and just be able to say, hey, we're going to deal with the insurance agency and get

this all figured out and just start and do that dry out as soon as possible. How many people is just you or other people? So right now we have, we have about 94 jobs on the board right now. So that gives you an idea of what we can handle for our company. So, and that's just the valley. So we have, we have a lot of people. We have a ton of box trucks. So like I said, if somebody needs us to show up in Klamath Falls, yesterday we got three trees that fell on people's houses in three different cities. So the name of it once again is palm industry. Palm Restore is what we have changed to. Hoping that people would know that we don't build mobile homes. So, yeah. Yeah. So, yes, we are a restoration company. All right. I'm going to get all your information up. So I guess what do they do if they want to find

more about this Palmer Store? Go to palmerstore.com. You can also go to Instagram. We have Palmer Store on Instagram as our handle. And there's a ton of information videos that you can watch on there. And you can call us as well. And with any questions you have, we do free assessments. So we'll come out and check it out. Very good. I appreciate you coming by here. And what do you like best, I think, about having been part of network and action or being part, I should say. Well, I can tell you, I met with Lisa last week. And by the, I think it was 9 p.m. I got an email where she was introducing me to six different people in the community that I've been wanting to connect with. But I've paid for my membership about 20 times over in the last two months. So it really works then.

It, she's giving you excellent customer service then about trying to do. She knows everybody, but I can't afford not to be in the group. So that's really the way it is. All right, very good. One more time here, Lisa, on how people can get a hold of you, and I'll put his information up, too. S.O.networking.com. All right, very good. I really appreciate you both coming in here, and we will have you back.

I have no doubt. Appreciate it. I'd love to do a segment with you just to find out, okay, you know, disaster radio, not us. Yeah. That would be fun. I'm so I'm booked for the view in about an hour, so just kidding, Bill. Just kidding. All right. Hey, got a roll here. This is KMED, KMED, H.D1, Eagle Point, Medford. KBXG grants pass. It's 9 o'clock. We'll join Fox News in progress.