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Episode Date: November 13, 2025

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The Bill Meyer Show podcast is sponsored by Klauser Drilling. They've been leading the way in southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausurdrilling.com. Here's Bill Meyer. Well, once again, for two Thursdays in a row, we actually have a conspiracy theory Thursday version of the Outdoor Report, sponsored by Oregon Truck and Auto Authority on Airway Drive in Medford. Mr. Outdoors is here, Greg Roberts, from Rogue Weather,

who is here because you've got to do some elk hunting and you want to do it tomorrow. Isn't that right, Greg? Welcome back. Yeah, I have to do it tomorrow. It's the last day of the Cascade Rifle Elk season. It kind of looked like my season, unfortunately, was going to be over on Sunday. And then, all of a sudden, well, you're going to get one more final chance, which will be tomorrow last day of the season.

And the nice part, at least, for where we left it on Sunday, we definitely had figured out where some elk were that it did not appear we had wolves. in the area also. So that's where I'm heading back to tomorrow to see if, you know, I can get lucky and catch up to them. It's basically just going to be me, and that's a real tough thing to pull off elk hunting is when you're solo. Now, if you end up bagging an elk, how do you haul it back?

They're pretty big animal. Well, I am going to have a companion because, you know, really, honestly, nobody should ever be out hunting alone. Agreed. Sadly, we've got a guy up to the north in the Mount Hood area that looks like there's been a tragedy. We're probably not going to see him alive again. But in Douglas County, we did have a hunter who got lost in Southern Douglas County, and they started the search for him right away because people knew he was missing right away, and the next day he rescued himself by getting to a road and then walking out on it and walked right into searchers looking

for him. Well, that's good. Now, what about those, I'm seeing more of those like hiker-type beacon sort of systems in which you can buy them. They don't seem to be all that expensive these days. No, they're not. And that's something that, you know, definitely hikers, hunters, you need to have something like that with you, especially if you're going to be going across terrain that you're unfamiliar

with. That won't be the case for me tomorrow. I'm going to be in an area that I'm extremely familiar with. I mean, it's one of those spots that you could put me in in the dark, and I would still be able to navigate myself pretty well out there. Yeah, throw you out of an airplane with a parachute, you land there. Oh, this way, right? Well, you know, if I knew I was landing in this particular spot. Okay. I guess that's one of the other added benefits of doing all the Bigfoot research and wolf investigations that I've done. That area up there around Butte Falls, especially to the north of Butte Falls towards Lost Creek, and then up in the Cascades, going all the way up to the crest of the Cascades, Blue Rock Road, out to the north, following the boundary of

Sky Lakes Wilderness, in Sky Lakes Wilderness. There's not too much. much of that area that I have never been into, and most of it have been into fairly frequently. So, you know, I'm not most people going out in the woods, though. Most people going out in the woods sometimes just have no idea of where they're at, really. The other thing that I have that is a huge benefit, and I totally recommend this, whether you're a hiker, hunter, or mushroom picker, get on X. onyx works what is onyx

hold on hold on Greg what is onyx is like oh n y x what is that oh nx oh n x it is an app you get that you load onto your cell phone and it's a map feature it will show you

whose property you're standing on you will also then be able to look up names of private timber landowners and see whether trespass is allowed and under what conditions, and also down with the Jackson Travel Management happening up in northern Jackson County, especially Butte Falls area and around Lost Creek Reservoir, you know, combining that with Onyx, you know immediately where you're at and where you can be hunting on private timberlands. And a lot of people would probably look at it and go, well, that's

BLM. Well, no, a BLM road takes you to it, which was the area we were hunting Saturday night and Sunday morning before we discovered wolves were also in there. You know, so little things like that go a long way. And ONEX is not expensive. I have Anex Elite, and it cost me $32 a year. That's actually not bad. Good to know. You know, I wanted to, how are we looking at it for hunting conditions the next few days? really windy this morning, really warm, because it must be the front coming in. And what are we going to be looking at? And then I want to ask you another hunting question here a little bit later.

Well, in terms of the fact that we're hunting for elk right now, the warmth is probably a good thing. If it gets really windy, elk tend to go down into draws in areas where there's a lot more cover from the wind. And they will also just kind of hole up in those deeper areas. unfortunately where I'm headed to on Friday, has several of those that I know, and the trick with that will be cruising right on the break of the ridge above and then looking intently through binoculars down below, and you're looking for elk bedded up or elk just kind of meandering around down there. Heavy rain will also make elk bed up. Heavy rain, oddly enough

for deer, actually seems to be something that draws them out of cover. but elk just decides to take a snooze okay we got that now so are we going to be getting a lot of showery activity with today's wind or is it more or less a lot of just dramatic wind without a lot of rain what do you think well i think that's kind of it depends on where you are the coast western josephine county maybe even grants past two this time around probably a lot more in terms of the shower activity or periods of rain i still think this is going to be a periods of rain. Well, what's the difference between showers and periods of rain? Well, glad you asked. Showers are more isolated. They look very cellular on the radar signature. Rain covers a much broader area, but it can move through, and I think it's more going to be that periods of rain where we see the rain coming out of the sky over much wider areas. I don't think we have in. snow issues to worry about even in the Cascades until right now it looks like when we get to Sunday morning and then we may see snow levels down around 5,000 feet and we definitely now are

going back into a very active storm period that frankly looks like is going to last through the Thanksgiving holiday weekend but as we move closer to Thanksgiving holiday weekend we also get colder. So just kind of watching the data and where it looks like we're probably, we're looking, snow levels 3,000 feet could possibly even get lower. Valley floor? No. Not expecting that yet. Okay. I'm amazed at the differences in the, you know, you always talk about the microclimate. By the way, I'm talking with Greg Roberts River at Rogue Weather. And I was up at Gold Hill Nuggett Butte and got that, got that old, that vintage China diesel generator, got the, got the, got the radio, plummed in it works great I love it

this is something I've wanted to do before winter because you know what happens in the winter you get the snow the lines go down and gosh it could be really nasty in some of those higher level power availability kind of issues and so anyway I'm up there and it was just calm

and beautiful and everything else and then I come into the valley and it's like it's like a windstorm everywhere I was going but there was nothing up there at 3,000 feet 3,500 feet I couldn't believe it what the difference just going a few miles in this area. Well, because in this case, Nuggets actually, there's a wind shield. It's keeping the winds from getting into Nugget. And we see that all the time, especially when you have Southerly

winds. What will happen is you get the winds, they kind of downslope off of the Siskus too. And then Medford, down through Ashland, you've got really windy conditions. And I'll be talking about how windy it is, and people start saying, well, I live out in Sam's Valley, and I don't have any wind. Yeah, got nothing. Gold Hill, and I don't have any wind at all. Yeah, you're not exposed directly, and you don't have downsloping off the mountains helping. Okay, well, that explains a lot about that. Now, the next question I want to go to has to do with your elk hunting, because you were mentioning wolves.

And I was reading Buffy's story over in Rogue Valley Times about the, you know, that the cattle ranchers, between Butte Falls and Prospect, say that they're getting a huge increase in the number of cattle being killed by the gray wolves, and they're getting pretty brazen out there. Would you concur with what's going on out there? What do you think? Yeah, actually, and unfortunately, again, we've got northeastern Oregon as a model, and this is exactly what we saw happen out there. We're now seeing the same thing here.

You know, and yes, the presence of the wolves, and there are. There are quite a few of them out there, unfortunately, here in eastern Jackson County. When all of this first began back in the 90s, you know, the government truly believed and voiced the opinion many times that in Oregon, they did not expect wolves to go west of Highway 395. But you always said they were already here. That's what you were saying. Yeah, they were already here. And then, well, obviously somebody forgot to send the memo to the wolves about 395.

because they almost immediately went west of $3.95. And now I can tell you there is no part of Oregon except maybe the cities in the Willamette Valley that has not at least seen wolves transit through. That includes the city limits of Bedford. We have had Wolves transit through the north end of Medford, Coker Butte Road area, the hills up there on the east side of town, those neighborhoods up there on Roxanne and then down towards Baldy. Wolves have transitioned

through those areas. There is currently a lot of report of wolf activity happening pretty much right in and near the city of Eagle Point. Eagle Point's a funny thing, too. I mentioned this yesterday and a live I did on rogue weather. People will call things 20 miles out of Eagle Point, Eagle Point, because the Eagle Point Post Office handles their mail and their address says Eagle Point, but they're 20 miles away from Eagle Point. So getting a report of Wolf activity in Eagle Point, the first thing you have to investigate is, where is this person really? Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

But my question for you, though, is it time to delist, to delist them? Oh, it's been time to delist for, geez, a decade. at least because when you look at what the original goal of the wolf reintroduction plan was, we've met it, more than met it, and now we've got issues happening in California, which nobody back in the day in this wolf recovery plan ever dreamed wolves, Alaska, Yukons, that is, would be present in California. Now, I have always maintained, plenty of others have seen them, we had wolves here before they were officially wolves, and the wildlife agencies did their best to convince them. Oh, yeah, they said you were crazy, conspiracy theory,

all that. You saw a coyote, and there were those of us who knew that, no, we absolutely hadn't seen them. So what happened? Why didn't they seem to be proliferating on the landscape? Well, number one, when you've got all the official government agencies trying to convince you, you saw dogs or coyotes, there is no obvious attention. The media doesn't report on it, and people were shooting these things. And so wolves were definitely giving us a wider birth because they weren't officially wolves. And when people had the opportunity, they shot them. Yeah, shovel shot up, right? That kind of thing. Then the other thing that happened is the explosion of use of game camps. And that is still a relatively new.

development, but almost as soon as people were getting game cams out in portions of Oregon, including this one, people started going, uh, that doesn't look like a coyote, and they'd show it to the wildlife agency and be told, no, that's a really big coyote, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, because you rarely had anything to give size and scope dimension to it. Okay, I get it, but that's changed now. Hey, Greg, could you hang on just for a moment? I want to hold you over for a couple minutes on this because I wanted to continue on this wolf thing, because I had a question about maybe how to work this angle because, yeah, it's this whole, this concept that as a cattle, as a cattle rancher, you're just supposed to feed the wolves.

I don't think is going to be sustainable, as they say, and I want to ask you some more about this. I know you've been involved in this for a while. 730, I'll be right back with Greg Roberts, you know, outdoor reporting more here on KMED. Did you trust your drinking water on it? You're hearing the Bill Myers Show on 1063 KMED. 734. Back with Mr. Outdoors. Greg Roberts at Rogue Weather.com with the Outdoor Report.

We've been talking about the wolf situation. Greg, the reason I was bringing up Buffy's story in the Rogue Valley Times and talking about delisting and all the rest of it is that I was wondering what ranchers could do to protect themselves better. And I was reading some fascinating stories in, looking at these pictures of guardian dogs. And guardian dogs raised to just do one thing, and that is to guard the flock, whether it is sheep, whether it is cattle, great Pyrenees, some of them. In fact, there was even one set of guardian dogs that had a cat that actually partnered with the guardian dogs because the cat had better eyesight out far distance, and they were able to see the threats like the wolves coming in before, and then the dogs would realize.

that, oh, okay, the cats see something, and then they get to the point where they can smell it, and then they're able to protect these ranches and flocks and things. Is this something which would actually work for some of these ranchers, or are these free-range ranches where you're not fencing them in? I don't know how that works, and I'm sorry to be a little ignorant about how that, or profess my ignorance on it, but do you know? No, that's okay. And here in Jackson County, we have one ranch in particular, the Milmar Ranch up on the

Prospect Butte Falls Highway. It is owned by a member of the Jackson County Wolf Committee, Ted Birdsy. Ted is the one rancher, I know for sure, that has deployed guardian dogs to help protect his livestock right there, right, directly at the ranch headquarters, because you brought up a key thing. Out on free range, no. Unfortunately, we don't have a lot of success, if any success, actually I'm aware of, of guardian dogs working with cattle out on free range. In Northeast Oregon, with sheep, which is a little bit different, yeah, there's been some success with guardian dogs helping repel wolves. They are not a 100% guarantee. Ted has had losses with cattle to wolves while he's had the guardian dogs. Sadly, he also has had losses to wolves of his guardian dogs. That's the other drawback to it.

Oh, really? Okay. So the dogs end up being taken out. Okay. Yep. Wow. Now, ranchers are compensated for proven losses to wolves of their cattle. That is a big part of what the Jackson County Wolf Committee is doing.

It's been doing that since its inception in 2016. We helped get money back to people who have lost livestock to wolves. There are funds set aside from Oregon Department of Agriculture, U.S. Department of Agriculture. So there are funding sources there that trigger that. People need to fill out their loss report. It gets investigated. And if it's determined it was related to wolves, then they do get financial compensation.

In fact, here in Oregon, they are just now changing how that program works. And A, more money for losses, and B, the type of losses are being expanded. Now, guardian dogs are actually covered for loss when they're killed by wolves. But it had been actually an inadequate amount, because especially with Ted's, first-hand experience with it, with others' firsthand experience. The amount of money originally being paid for a guardian livestock dog did not come anywhere near close to recouping the rancher for the loss of that dog. They are very expensive, highly prized dogs. Exactly. Highly trained dogs. And you have to then go replace the dog that was killed by the wolves, and then you

pick up more expense, getting that puppy first of all, and then training it. And so, yes, the amount of money for the loss of a livestock guardian dog was increased. In fact, it actually was increased when the dollar amount for the loss of, say, a steer was not. Can you legally shoot a wolf that's going after your cow? Depends on what part of Oregon you're in. In northeastern In Oregon, you absolutely can shoot a wolf if you see one actively trying to kill your livestock down here in Jackson County? Nope. Why not?

Every time you can legally kill a wolf here and you really better be able to prove this is if you get attacked by it, which that guy who was trespassing picking mushrooms near Gold Hill. Oh, yeah, I remember that story. Yeah, he clearly hadn't done his research about how wolves attack humans. And as soon as that thing hit the news, I knew it was 100% as our good friend, Garth Harrington, would say Bovinus excretemittes. True. Now, why is it that you can't shoot a wolf attacking your branch?

Because of the federal endangered protection levels that it has, and this is another thing that happened. Once wolves were declared, quote-unquote, official, I think most people would probably think, about shooting a wolf, especially a collared one, because your chances of getting away with it in reality is really small because there's layers of protection around known wolf use areas that most people would never know of. And frankly, I'm not going to get into. Okay, so delisting is really, it really needs to be done for our area. So it must be, you know, it's delisted in northeast, but it's listed down here is what it is. Okay. So within the state, you get these uneven levels of protection, and Oregon has that, Washington has it, and California is universal 100%, but California did do something pretty interesting, you know, to deal with one particular problem pack of wolves that were, if they were killing, they were killing cattle.

They could not find any evidence they were killing deer and elk. They were killing cattle. So California just went in and removed four members of the pack, and unfortunately for them, and they're getting a lot of blowback for it. They made a mistake and took out a pup, which is not something that is typically done when you're removing wolves from the landscape, killing them. Oregon, we've never had that happen. But unfortunately, California, on their first removal hunt, yeah, they experienced

that all right hey great thanks for the wolf talk i wanted to ask you about that next week you know what i want to what you do uh maybe uh kick it around with me is uh i'm reading about uh just an amazing amount of money that's going to be spent now per year to kill the bardelles okay so this is the that it makes me just live it i know it it is an insane amount of money i think i think it was like a billion and a half a year i think is what they were looking at and They tested that to see if that might prove to even be effective in two spots here in Jackson County. And one of those right smack in the middle of my Bigfoot investigation area, and we ran into a guy from U.S. Fish and Wildlife one night out there where we normally don't see anything but Bigfoot, the native wildlife, and the woods in that spot used to ring with the calls of owls. And I started talking to him and found out he was doing an owl survey.

Then he came right out and admitted what he was doing. He was looking for an area that had both barred owls and spotted owls in it because they were going to remove, quote-unquote, some barred owls to see if it would benefit the spotted ow. But you see, it's ridiculous. It's obvious that the spotted owls just are not, they're not aggressive or they're not the superior owl. That's what there is. The barred owl is. And now the government agencies are saying.

things like it's invasive. The environmentals are saying it's invasive. Oh, stop it. It's not. Okay. All right. Well, we'll pick that up next week. All right. But hey, thanks about it. Go out hunting. And I wish you luck on that. And I know the weather will be better for you for tomorrow.

Okay. Thanks so much. And the other thing we'll get into when we talk about that is the dramatic impact it had when they did go in there and shoot barred owls because it wasn't just the barred owls that we're like, oh, every owl species, that's become an owl dead zone. All right. We'll dig more into that next Friday on our normal time for the Outdoor Report. We'll see you then, okay? Be well.

You got it, Bill. Greg Roberts at Rogueweather.com, Outdoor Report, Oregon Truck and Auto Authority, the sponsor of that on Airway Drive. In Medford, it is 742. We'll catch up with a quick Fox News and more of your calls here. It is Conspiracy Theory Thursday. Happy to do it. News, brought to you by Millette Construction.

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me over the talks we've been having over the last few days. Patrick writes, Bill, that was a great interview with John Bacon yesterday about the Gales of November, Edmund Fitzgerald. You know, that one stirred my imagination to Patrick. Anyway, says, I just ordered the book. D.P., glad you like it. You're going to enjoy that, all right? Dave writes me about Christine Dresen, the talk with a candidate Christine Dresen, who was on yesterday.

Of course, she's running as a Republican for governor, Senator Drazen. And Dave says, Bill, Christine used the words, explore and look into, she should already have a 10-point plan for the governor's office and a 10-point plan to drive the legislature. Drive those top problems, she should simplify her plan. Make her plan be on the lips of all voters. Wheels up. Dave, I appreciate the email.

Ron also kicks in here. Bill, really enjoyed your guest who talked about. the USS Tang Submarine the other day. Yeah, that was Tom Clavin. Yeah, Tom Clavin. And I think I gave the book of ways I don't have it here. But it brought to mind another submarine story. It's about the sinking of the USS Scorpion, a nuclear sub, which happened in 1968.

Public was led to believe that the sinking was due to some mechanical problem. Wasn't it with a torpedo? I see to recall that. But it turns out that the sub was brought down by a Russian torpedo. Cropido fired from a Russian sub. This was at the height of the Cold War, and the public likely would have clamored for revenge had the truth come out. This could have been the start of World War III, so the truth was kept buried. Whole story is written by an investigative reporter Ed Offley, and his book is called Scorpion Down.

The book lays out all the facts and evidence that led to the obvious conclusion. It's a chilling story of a massive government cover-up. As a side note, I was a young engineer in 1968 working at Mayor Island Naval Shipyard. We were building fast attack subs, so I was familiar with the subs of that era. Our conclusion was that the sub was most likely hit by a torpedo. Now, I'm a little confused. Maybe I'm mistaking the Scorpion for another one, Ron, but wasn't there another sub that, maybe I'm thinking of a different sub that was missing for a while,

but ended up getting hit by its own torpedo. A malfunction of that. I thought so. Jan weighs in with me. Jan March says, Bill. I'm just curious, this is about Christine Drazen again. But as I recall, the last time this person ran, you weren't a fan. Of course, in your interview this morning, I understand that you have to be somewhat neutral.

Always be neutral and fair about something like this, Jan, I don't want to put a thumb on the scale, especially in primaries. But isn't she the one who listed her address as Canyonville the last time she ran? No, that was a different Christine. So make sure that we don't make that mistake. That was Christine Goodwin. Christine Goodwin, former House rep, okay, that was the one running and trying to take on Noah Robinson ended up being beat in that election. But anyway, she continues, I totally agree that Oregon needs some conservative leadership badly, but I'm not sure it's her. I loved Chris Dudley when he ran and would vote for him again, but I heard after he lost that he'd moved to California.

Yeah. Well, you know, he was speaking at the coastal conclave, or, you know, they get together for the Republican Shrimp Fest. And, boy, they're all trying to get them to run, Jan. Also, just want to thank you for what you do every day for the people of this valley. Well, thank you very much. It's kind, but I'm glad to be here. Matt weighs in. We were talking about mortgages, the 50-year mortgage, right? 50-year mortgage. And Matt said, I heard a great idea that the 50-year mortgage will actually be used by house flippers because it's cheaper per month than a 30-year mortgage. You could be right about that.

But he raises something, which I'm intrigued by. How about a portable mortgage? You take your current low-raid mortgage to your new house. This would unlock the housing market immediately. I love that idea. What kind of change would be done with that? Yeah. So, in other words, you have, let's say you have two,

$250,000 on your mortgage for, you know, your house or whatever it is, 3%, you know, you got that two, three years ago, that you end up moving that money. Well, the banks wouldn't like that, right? Isn't the whole idea to churn the fees or do something like that, Matt? That's the only question I would have about it. Let's see. I like the idea, though. I really do.

And Chris writes from Grants Pass, Bill, live in Grants Pass. River Valley Church has been expanding exponentially. They have been taking over other churches and now the Flying Lark Building. I drive by that location every day and have seen the amount of contractors doing upgrades. Now they have a new expensive sign with a reader board. They also have a kids area. With all the money to buy and renovate these million-dollar properties, they provide no outreach to help the community.

I called their office the other day to ask if they would provide assistance for people who are behind on bills. You know, rent, water, electricity, gas, anything. that would help those that are doing their best. The response, no. They give nothing to help. This is not a church. It's a straight-up business model. St. Vincent DePaul will help once a year for people's water bills.

You Can will help with rent assistance when they can get funding in power. The church is a mega monopoly around here, and yet they do nothing for the community. Someone should check the financials, who is behind the board, who they donate to, and how much the church board gets paid by whom they get their funding. Well, Chris, you know, you can research that. It's public records, but, you know, is the, are you required when you run a church to do that outreach? I don't know. I guess it's a matter of what they're called to do.

I don't know how that church is run. Of course, I live in, you know, in Medford, but thanks for writing. Maybe somebody else will pick that up if they think something is untoward, or is that you just don't like it. I don't know. Anyway, back to the phones. It is conspiracy theory Thursday. Hi. Morning.

Who's this? Hey, it's De Portable Patrick Bill here to annoy you further. Oh, you never annoy me. Nobody annoys me. Even Lucretia doesn't annoy me. I mean, it's just, well, a little bit, but, you know, we've come to an understanding, okay? She's not trying hard enough. Okay. What's on your mind? The other sub, I was in sixth grade when the thresher went down.

That's the one I was thinking of. I'm sorry I was, I was mistaking it. It was the thresher. That's what I was thinking of. Okay. Captain William S. Harvey, 129 souls went down, and it was a brand new nuclear sub, and it was our latest and best. And I think it was on its first sea trials. It was really a bad thing. And it was a high pressure leak in the engine room, which caused them to lose power.

and it just was over pretty quick. It took a long time for him to find it. It was in 12,000 feet of water. Oh, yeah. And it was squished flat as a pancake, right? You know, that kind of thing, that implosion you get? The pictures I saw were like scattered pieces, which is probably both could be true. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, that's, you know, the silent service, I think about that. And I don't have claustrophobia, but I could understand people feel. claustrophobic in a in a sub for sure but you know certain people can serve yeah you have to have a special personality no doubt but you know from what I understand it's just as horrible is I think the worst part about being in a sub that's damaged like that is knowing that the implosion could be coming but when it finally happens it's so fast you're probably it's like with a microsecond or so that that it ends up you know collapsing and then you're

dead before your nervous system even understands what happened, that kind of thing. That's what I'm told at least. I think that kind of condition could happen, and like it did with the Titan sub. Yeah. It was a different, it was made out of composite, what do they call it, carbon fiber, and the thresher was probably just steel, and it happened more slowly. I'm thinking so they probably had like a whole second to live rather than a 20th of a second. Fair enough. Well, thanks for that DP. Good hearing from you.

757. Conspiracy Theory Thursday, you got a call? Get in here before Fox News coming up. This is the Bill Meyer show. Store closing commercials are supposed to be loud and in your face, so don't miss the store closing. And you're waking up with the Bill Myers Show. Shade before 8KMED, KMED, H.D. H.1. Eagle Point, Medford. Paul's and Williams. Paul, good to have you here. And you wanted to add to the Thresher story here. And like I said, I was mistaking that for the other sub, Scorpion.

but go ahead tell me yeah uh if i remember correctly uh the pressure they said and we don't know what the government tells us for sure but that it was the valves on the ballast tank that froze and they couldn't close them so they could purge the uh ballast tanks and they went beyond their crushed depth now how they found that when they found the ship or stuff i don't remember but that was the threshold, and I was in San Diego working with the Navy at the time. Of course, I was not in a position to get any information. I was just a do a lunch bucket worker guy. Yeah, sure.

I have great admiration for that service, because you've got to be, I really, you have to be a special individual to do that, in my opinion. The Navy requires the enlisted people to have a minimum IQ of 120 on a submarine corps. No kidding. Yeah. Which is not super high, but for an enlistful. Unlisted guy for a regular sailor army guy. That's, that's, uh, they're, they're asking for quite a bit, and people have to get along

with each other. Uh, it takes a special person to do it. Yeah. And you certainly wouldn't want, um, I guess being a super hot head, easily triggered, probably not the best service for you, right? The team would not be made up of trendy Aragua types at all. Yeah. You want a piece of me?

Probably not, right? You don't. Right now. All right. Hey, appreciate the call. Thanks for sharing that experience. All right. Well, check in Fox News here. And we have Jack Cashel, who's going to join me on Zoom here in just a few minutes. And we're going to talk about these congressional investigations into the J6.

You know, where did that story of the beating, you know, the fire extinguisher beating and all these other. You know, they're digging more and more into this. What does it mean? Where is it going? And Jack writes a lot about this. We'll kick it around. I'm Matt Jordan. Join me for Fox 26.