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Episode Date: November 15, 2025

Morning headlines and commentary leading us into the H1B visa dust up with Trump and Ingraham. What is H1B all about? Hannah Davis from FairUs dot org explains and analyzes this issue.

The Bill Meyer Show podcast is sponsored by Klauser Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausordrilling.com. Here's Bill Meyer. Great to have you here on Find Your Phone Friday, 7705-633-7-0-M-E-D. We've got a lot going on this morning. I'll squeeze in the calls as best as possible. Let me just give you kind of a rundown.

We're going to be digging a little bit more into that H-1B dust up this week that the president had with Laura Ingram, because it is something which is kind of driving some chatter within the Magal world here, that, well, we don't have talent and we have to import 600,000 Chinese students. Of course, how many, of course, are required to spy for communist China as they come over and go into the Oregon State University system, et cetera, et cetera. Well, who knows? Who knows? Maybe we're not supposed to ask uncomfortable questions, but I wanted to find out more about how this H-1B scam actually works.

The way, what I've been able to find out is that it's mostly a lottery system, and yet we're kind of sold this bill of goods that it's about the best and the brightest, when in reality it's about essentially replacing American workers and maybe replacing American students first. So I think it's a big deal. It's a big deal. So I'm going to talk with an investigator, in fact, the chief of investigators over at the Federation for American Immigration Reform. And her name's Hannah Davis, Investigations Manager there. And we've talked with the fair U.S. people quite often. I just want to find out, you know, what really happens about this? Is there some sort of a quota?

You know, a lot of times the immigration laws and rules are kind of murky from the outside unless you're an immigration lawyer. And I'm not one of those, so I thought I'd talk with Hannah about it. Tim Martin will join me from the John Birch Society. I have to tell you, you know, back in the days of the William F. Buckleys and the National Reviews when National Review came out, boy, the goal was to actually destroy groups like the John Birch Society, true conservatives out there, true America first, before they were really talking about America first, because, you know, the whole idea was to go to that neo-conservative internationalist kind of point, and that's what really controls. republicanism in the United States of America for a long time and President Trump arguably has been part of breaking that up but

now of course the government's back in business if you want to call it that money losing businesses always but still back in business but both sides are blaming both sides for the shutdown and what can be coming next I'll talk with Tim about that from the birchers we have some

really good news out of the state of Oregon and I'm glad to be able to report this now it may not be good news for the city of Medford, okay? But it is good news for property owners, and I'm going to talk with Brian Hodges from Pacific Legal Foundation. He was the lead attorney on the Oregon case, on the Medford organ case that I was talking about here just a few weeks ago. U.S. Court of Appeals did issue a decision with COGAP enterprises. And essentially what happened is that co-gap, which owns some of this land by Stuart Meadows, this family, this family, business and they own land by Stuart Meadows and the city of Medford was trying to force COGAP to pay almost three quarters of a million dollars for a new road and a bridge in order to serve other people's future development even though what COGAP was trying to do out there by Stewart Meadows was not going to be increasing car trips because you know they the city of

Medford, along with the zoning rules and the state rules and all the rest of it, okay, you're creating more card trips, and so you're going to help contribute to the, you know, your fair share, I love how they always say that, fair share, though, to the infrastructure. Now, I understand that. But essentially, the Court of Appeals ended up coming out and saying, hey, you as a property owner are not a piggy bank for the city or the county or the state, really, to mulk to pay for everybody else's stuff. Okay, so we'll talk more about that.

Brian, the lead attorney on that, Brian Hedges, or Hodges, rather, he'll join me at 7.30. So I think that's great. Last night, I also shared a great song. It's on my Facebook feed, the Bill Meyers show Facebook feed, called Copco Road. Captain Bill Simpson wrote it, and he wrote the lyrics and did his AI singing thing again. And I got to tell you, I think it's the best song he's done. And it's a song about the destruction of the Klamath Dam.

telling the story and more or less exposing the fraud as it continues even though we're still seeing all the happy talk happy happy talk fish coming back fish coming back fish coming back yeah fish coming back but you know the part that they don't talk about with all the happy talk oh look at this salmon it's coming up to see that's actually salmon from three four or five years ago when the dam was in place now do we actually have really great breeding beds. I forget exactly what they call those, but, you know, the places for the salmon to lay their eggs with all the clay and the silt and all the other garbage, which has been blasted out of the dam and down the river. So anyway, we'll play a little bit of that song, 8 o'clock

with a cabin go. I just think it's great. It's getting thousands of views already, and people are watching it. I put just a picture of the, in fact, I put a picture of what Copco Lake looks like now after the water was all drained out of it, and it is pretty ugly stuff. All right. Anyway, I'll talk with Captain Bill about it because this is kind of a side project. I know normally he's the wild horse guy,

but he's also paying attention to the Klamath, too, because he lives right by it. 18 after 6, 770K immediate to join in. John Fetterman was hospitalized with heart problems, and apparently he fell, hurt himself a bit, and had some AFib, and, you know, he does have some circulatory. issues there.

I thought it was kind of funny when he said, hey, if you thought my face was ugly before, because he fell in his face, apparently. But you think my face is ugly now. Look at it after this, but it looks like he's going to be okay. Secretary of State Marco Rubio, another national headline announcing Trump administration has designated four European Antifa groups as foreign terrorist groups, foreign terrorist organizations. And so I guess they're going to get a little extra love if any of their members try coming into the United States. Now, another worldwide headline, you never would have seen this one coming.

A totally unexpected development, massive corruption involving top government officials in the energy sector of the Ukrainian economy has led to the resignation of two of Zelensky's top allies in the government. You never would have seen that coming out of Ukraine, right? Oh, no, no, no, you know, the Burisma and the Hunter and the big guy and everything. No, I don't even know how anything like that ever happens. But still, that's an interesting international headline, as it were. Branch Pass Daily Courier reporting on the Medford City Council, what they were talking about this week. And they directed, according to their story here, M.M.A.A.L. story. The directed city staff members to draft a list of potential costs so that the city councilors can figure out if it's even monetarily possible to build a downtown minor league baseball stadium.

Yeah, the voters ended up passing 15-238 the other week. The big question that the city faces is whether it's even possible to build a stadium that meets major league baseball standards for minor league stadiums without draining the city coffers. Of course, we've been wondering about this right from the beginning. But now that we've passed the seed money, I guess now we can find out what's inside, you know, kind of like that old Nancy Pelosi deal. Mayor Michael Zerosensky says, can we actually get a stadium at the price I believe we can afford? I don't think we've answered that question. Yeah, and some of the people that were questioning 15-238 thinking, yeah, yeah, can we build it? Maybe we figure out if we can build it first before we ask for the money, but, you know, reasons.

the majority of the cost of the stadium, according to city attorney Eric Mitten, will be coming from the city and not the team. Gosh, I wish I could get the city of Medford to build me a new studio. Do you think I could do that? I think I could pull that off? I think we could have a little urban renewal taxing district. Now that there's anything wrong with my studio, but, you know, if we're going to have the city of Medford with the taxing district,

Taxpayers pay for Major League Baseball. I mean, certainly what's wrong with me getting a new studio, a new camera or something like that? I think I could do this? Could we use tax incremental financing, like urban renewal? We'll renew this area by the airport. I'm being a little sarcastic, but, yeah, sports is an amazing business model in which you get the taxpayers who don't either play football or watch baseball or anything else to pay for the place so people can. I do find that really, really interesting. Anyway, back to the Daily Courier story.

The city has postulated where those funds to build the stadium might come from, urban renewal money emerging as the frontrunner. So they take a snapshot of property taxes in an area and then all the property tax increases generated after that snapshot then go into urban renewal projects. That's how they do it. That's the tax incremental financing that I was just mentioning. which means, yeah, that that is money that would have gone to the city of Medford for its other services.

So, yeah, then that means the city of Medford raises its fees in other ways to make up the difference. I think that's kind of what we could assume might be going on. But that's okay. That's okay. The yes votes won. Everything's fine. Nothing to see here. We'll keep an eye on that story.

Thank you, Derry Daily Courier for that. Oregon Live, boy, I tell you, Oregon Live does not like immigration and custom enforcement. Every day, there's another ice story here. There's a couple of them here. One of them that they have is Newport. I told you the other day about how Newport is being looked at for an ice facility. And we're going to fight, Newport says. Declaration by Newport City Manager Nina Vedder at a city meeting.

corroborated days after speculation that ICE wanted to put a detention center there whether ICE will move forward with plans to create a possible detention center in Lincoln City still kind of murky Vetter the city manager of Newport saying Wednesday the Texas company that at first proposed leasing land at the Newport Municipal Airport for federal operations has withdrawn its letter of interest but city officials vowed to push back against any ICE development

Got to love that. The part that kind of surprises me, well, is something we ought to all be asking. It's like, okay, if all of your people around Newport and Lincoln City and out there in the coast, if everyone's legal, what are you worried about? If there's no illegal aliens, there's nobody to arrest, right? Yeah, I imagine not. Gosh, there was another. Oh, speaking of ICE, this is also in Oregon Live once again, because they love ICE. federal immigration officers randomly ran license plates of cars in the Beaverton area last Saturday.

They were driving around there and they would have various cars going around them. And so they'd run the license plates. You know, the ICE cops would be doing that. And so they were looking for names and birth dates of registered owners that they then plugged into a Department of Homeland Security database to find out if any one of them was in the United States unlawfully. And so they found one. They ended up stopping a 24-year-old guy driving a red Chevy Camaro on Tollaton Highway, Route 830 last Saturday morning, according to court records.

Well, a federal judge this week finds that ICE, the detention of the asylum seeker, was unlawful. Not based on the randomness of his stop, but his status, and they ordered the Tacoma Immigration Court to hold a bond hearing for him by Friday or release him. So they just took the state information, they did the information from the state motor vehicle database, and they ran it and it said, oh, okay, this guy pops up as an illegal alien. So yet another example in which we coddle the criminals here in the United States. But I'm sure he's just, would be referred to kind of like the Maryland man. He's just an Oregon man. Just an Oregon man.

He has a family here, just here to better his life. And the fact that ICE was able to find him with the public records seems to be a real problem. And so the state wants to find a way to shut that down, to shut that down. Everybody else could look at the records, but not the federal government. It's going to be an interesting battle we see coming up here, wouldn't you say? Well, it's not coming up. It's already here. This is the Bill Meyer show on Sanctuary City Friday. Maybe we should start renaming it that.

25 after 6 at KMED. Hi, I'm Lamont from Orleans, and I'm on 106.7, KMED. 27 after 6. Tom from Salat, one of the early morning riser club commenting the Hall of Fame kind of guys. How are you doing this morning, Tom? What's on your mind? Just fine, Bill. Thank you.

Great info there. I just want a very simple point, but I just wanted to point out where all this immigration business and ice and so forth coming from. What's going on is a word. worldwide movement to bring in as many, quote, immigrants into all the different countries as possible to basically remove any sense of a country. In America here, it's to bring in a lot of people who have no idea what the Bill of Rights is about individual liberty and so forth. The idea is to homogenize and dumb down the voting population.

Yeah, well, it's, if you don't mind me interjecting here, Tom, it's also about making sure that you have no sense of place or of belonging. It's about that, too, that the native-born populations, the populations that may have been here for quite some time, are pretty much disenfranchised in their own land. I think that's part of it, right? Exactly. Exactly. It's to ratchet down the sense of any idea that a country is legitimate. It's to erase the borders and make Greece the skid for the new world order. I know that sounds very conspiratorial, and I'm a day late, but that's really what's going on. And you look at what's happened to France, England, Germany, Sweden, you know, all these countries in Europe. Yeah, well, look at how England is no longer for the English. It's supposed to be for every other third world immigrant that wishes. And what has driven a lot of this is that what happened for a long time, you know, it's the idea that America, well, remember, this is what was being pushed for the last 30, 40, 50 years, that America is just an idea.

It's an idea, not a place, not a place, not a, place with soil and with resources and with people and with the systems that have been working those various resources and have built a society over you know a lot of work and well the idea the idea and and that it's the idea that's been destroying us really yeah so you end up you know on streets of London you know people being attacked by swords and machetes and what have you I think of And one of the things I think about is down California where a government organization decided that, you know, they were going to have a Christmas party and so forth. Well, a husband-wife, Muslim team really took offense to that.

They came in and shot them all up, you know, and this is years ago. But it's the whole idea that, you know, that a country is not a valid concept. And it's also the idea, though, that all cultures are. the same. That is a multicultural point of view. All cultures are, are worthy of, you know, of respect, that sort of thing that, you know. So what we got going on is this mind manipulation. You know how people were told to take the COVID shot for grandma. Well, kind of the same things going on with immigration. You know, oh, these are poor people. We got a lot of men. They're equal, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. They're using mind manipulation for

for people and playing on their sympathy to welcome all these people from across the globe, but, you know, might turn around and shoot you or stab your, all these mosques and Muslims, you know. And sometimes even our own leaders appear to be doing, are making decisions which are against our best interest. Take the dust up this week with President Trump and Laura Ingram on Fox about the 600,000 H-1B visa holders coming from China. At the same time, this is our main rival that we are told time and time again. So, go to cut to the chase, this is all about bringing down America as a country. That's what all this mass immigration is all about. It's to bring America down.

Now, a lot of people might say, well, that's a good idea. But if you really look at the endgame or where they headed, no, this is like a new world order technocracy, say digital money. Yeah, digital ID, too, on top of that. Everything like that. All right. That's the idea. This is where immigration is that.

They don't want any country in the United States, this last country that could really stop this New World Order March to tyranny. So they're working overtime to bring us down. Well, I don't wish that to occur. And I know that people who elected President Trump did not want this to occur either. That's why we're going to explore this issue here just a minute on the H-1B. I want to understand this better, because I think I know what I know, but I may not. And so we're going to delve into that situation because that is happening here right now.

600,000 people from China is not a small number here, Tom. Okay? Exactly. It's all part of it. So it's a program. It's not just happenstance. Yeah, and I don't want the tech bros determining the makeup of the United States here in the future years, which seems to be what has been doing or performing a lot of this decision-making for us. Okay, they got a roll, but thank you for the call, as always, Tom, 632. We will get into that, that situation here coming up with the investigation manager for the Federation for American Immigration Reform. It will be after news on KMED.

Oregon Truck and Auto Authority is the Rogue Valley's Spray-on-bedliner leader for 20 years running. We are excited. Plus, the experts in charge. charge. The Bill Myers Show on 1063, KMED. 636, so proud to have Hannah Davis on from the Federation for American Immigration Reform. She's the Investigations Manager, and even after the Trump administration comes in, you still have lots of investigations to do, don't you Hannah? Welcome back to the show. That's exactly right. Thanks for having.

Okay, I wanted to focus in on a dust-up that President Trump had with Fox News host, Lori Ingram. And they were talking this week about H-1B visas and the H-1B visas and Laura Ingram making the case that, hey, this is about bringing in additional Chinese and we're going to be reducing American workers. And if you want to make America great, we should be not doing stuff like this, not diluting it. And then President Trump started, you know, talking. They were going back and forth in a conversation about, well, we don't have the talent. and 600,000 China nationals, Chinese nationals are coming in on student visas here. And I want to find out, first off, how does the H-1B visa work, and then we'll get into the China thing specifically?

Sure thing. Yeah, so the H-1B visa is a lottery system. It's for high-skilled foreign workers with exceptional merit and ability. Think people with bachelor's degrees are higher, typically going into theoretical or technical fields. You know, the majority of H-1B visa holders come from India and then China. The tech industry, roughly 60 to 70 percent of everyone they hire or their new applications are in recent years, H-1B visa holders. And so what they do is they apply to this lottery-style system.

And what Trump was speaking to Laura about was potentially changing the way the system works because there's so much fraud. As the program has grown, it's drifted substantially from, its original intent. And it's now used to essentially displace American workers while at the same time benefiting the employer, because the employer can pay these H-1B visa holders below their occupations median or their prevailing wage. And so what Trump has proposed is basically going to a wage-weighted system rather than a lottery system, which is going to be based on expertise and salary levels. And he thinks that could get rid of the fraud, but at the end of the

day, it still doesn't fit his America first agenda. It still leaves people who are Americans who have high expertise and exceptional merit and ability to the wayside. They could do those jobs instead. And I think that's the rub that Laura was getting at. And that's where, you know, everybody is talking about this now. There's members from both sides of the aisle that are against H-1B visas, whether it be Bernie Sanders or Marjorie Taylor Green recently introduced legislation to phase out the H-1B visa. And then even on the state level, Florida's governor, DeSantis, he directed the Board of Governors to stop importing H-1B visa holders and instructed universities to hire American

graduates. And then there's people like Elon Musk, who are naturally for it because he came to the U.S. on a H-1B visa. But he even recognizes that it needs reform. But this reform that Trump is, you know, peddling around isn't really putting Americans first. And I think that's the main issue here. Okay. How many of these do we get per year on average?

And has it been changing? Have the numbers been changing over the years? Can you give us an idea on this, Hannah? Yeah, there's a yearly cap of $65,000. But if the applicant has a master's, 20,000 more can apply. Some organizations are cap-exempt. So that makes things get a little tricky. For example, the Biden administration approved about 400,000 H-H-1B visa holders last year.

Okay, so if we are supposedly capped at 65,000, how does President Trump then propose 600,000 Chinese nationals coming in? How does that work with the 65,000 cap? Is that part of the exemptions that you're discussing or something different? Chinese students come in on what's, well, all international students come in on an F1 visa, not an H-1B visa, but the two are so intricately connected. know, he wants to bring around 600,000 Chinese students to the U.S., because apparently he doesn't want his colleges to, quote, go out of business, unquote. Oh. We already accept around 300,000 a year of Chinese students.

But what happens is these Chinese students, they graduate, and then they go into this OPT program, which stands for optional practice training. They receive lower pay, once again, benefiting the employer. They have a few years of employment, and then it's a stepping stone to other words. work visas like the H-1B. Oh, okay. So that's why you say it's connected. Now I understand, so they're not technically coming in on H-1B visas, but they will be

feeding the H-1B visa arguably in a few years once they complete the training and schooling, right? That's what we're looking at. That's exactly right. And so what Trump is doing right now is he's claiming we need H-1B recipients to train Americans to do certain jobs, but at the same time he's giving over half a million university spots to the second largest source country for H-1B recipients, which is China, our main geopolitical rival, it's strange logic, for sure. And I say, how about our universities train Americans

so we don't need H-1B visa holders? You know, we don't need Chinese students getting degrees here in the U.S. to train Americans. It's backwards logic. It doesn't put Americans first. And it's a huge national security risk. I mean, just, you know, there's a China national intelligence law passed in 2017 that requires all citizens to cooperate with the Chinese Communist Party. And we see that in effect. You know, we're taking away spots in schools from Americans and giving them to future Chinese communists. It's wrong.

And they commit acts of espionage, and it's extraordinarily dangerous. Last year, eight Chinese students were charged with espionage for taking photos of military equipment. Just in March of this year, there was a Chinese student who was charged with espionage for trying to recruit spies and stealing, tech industry secrets. And so it's a real issue. It's a national security concern. And the two visas do play off one another very, very closely. Boy, so it would seem to me that essentially you are importing the enemy, a geopolitical enemy, in essence, are we not?

And trying to expand this. It doesn't make sense to me at all. That's exactly right. I mean, and Trump on both the H-1B visa holders and the Chinese students is very wishy-washy. I mean, earlier this year, Trump stated he was going to revoke Chinese student visas due to espionage concerns, but now currently he's changing his tune after a recent meeting with Chinese leadership. And people are calling them out. I think Nikki Haley recently took to Twitter and says it's a huge gift to China and a threat to the U.S. And she's exactly right. Yeah, I know this is not your wheelhouse, but I could, I think it would be safe to assume that this is about getting a trade deal, a new trade deal done with China.

and maybe a bone, throwing a bone to the Chinese communists, figuring with immigration? I think that's exactly right. Okay. Interesting stuff. All right. Now, we're told that these are the best in the brightest, H-1B. I'm reading stories that this is not really the case in what we're calling the best in the brightest are kind of like the mid-level drones in the Chinese and India societies.

Is there any way that you could comment on that? that this is just, you know, the people that aren't really to make it in China, you know, they come to the American university system and try to get jobs here. What do you think? I mean, even if that's true, even if that's true, I mean, we should be throwing bones out to Americans who aren't the best and the brightest. You know, we shouldn't be passing the buck over to China and saying, hey, we need you guys to come in here and fill up our jobs and fill up our universities. So, and, and with H-1Bs, again, he's been pretty squishy about this. It was just recently in September, he imposed a $100,000 fee for employers for every applicant that they

accept on a H-1B visa. It was expensive enough that Walmart stopped hiring H-1B visa holders, and then he justified that decision by saying that it was a large-scale replacement of American workers, that the H-1B visa program is riddled with fraud, and then, you know, now, you know, he's saying bring in the talent, but we have talent here in the U.S., you know. And then going back to the students issue, I mean, these Chinese students typically cluster in big cities around elite universities that American students clamor to get into. And these American students are competing with wealthy foreigners who can pay more in tuition.

And so it essentially subsidizes the university gambit. They pay a good amount in tuition, but that doesn't mean that that's what's best for the nation. We need to put Americans first, whether it be on the university side, and especially with the H-1B visa side. There are people in the medical field in the tech industry that are Americans that will do those jobs. And it's a big game. Like I said earlier, the H-1B visa system, people like to hire these people, regardless if their skill level is as high as they may tout that it is because they get to underpay them. It's kind of like the same thing that happens when migrants go into the agriculture or the hospitality sector under the table. They get paid less.

It benefits the employer, and at the end of the day, it puts American citizens to the wayside. Hannah Davis is the Investigations Manager at the Federation for American Immigration Reform. Hannah, is there a visa? I mean, we're always talking about getting the best and the brightest talent. I remember reading something, and I don't know if this is true or not any longer, but isn't there already a specialized visa for truly superfluous? superior, I mean, truly the biggest brains of the world. It's kind of like the Einstein's or the Elon Musk's of the world to come in, and it's not the H-1B.

Isn't there another characteristic or another name for a different type of visa if you're really talking about getting the best and the brightest to be here? Yeah, I believe you're thinking of the 01 visa, which is for individuals with extraordinary ability in fields like science, art, athletics, business, education. So, yeah, it does exist. Most people just end up coming through the H-1V visa program, though, and it creates issues like we see right now. Do you know how many of the 0-1s that we get? Is that something that is released? That I do not know.

I'm sure it's released, but no, I'm not privy. Okay. I would be curious to know I'm going to have to look a little bit more into that because if we're talking about the truly unique best and brightest, that should be the way they're coming in, not sort of like this mass importation of Indians and Chinese. Wouldn't you say if we're really talking about what we need? Because you're right, we do need good talent.

There's nothing wrong with having good talent. But there's a lot of good talent that's gone to waste in the United States. It looks like over the last few years. Maybe they think we can't crank it up soon enough. What do you think? And that's exactly right. And I do, I'm pretty positive the 01 visa has a lower cap, a lower threshold amount of people were allowed to admit

every year. And so that's why most people probably jump on the H-1B visa train because there's a lot of exceptions like we spoke about earlier. And at the end of the day, people come in through that way. And some organizations are cast-exempt. So it creates a lot of fraud. But you're exactly right. I mean, both programs need reform. And I'm more so someone who leans towards Marjorie Taylor-Green's introduced legislation where she wants to phase out H-1B visas to keep the hospital, the medical field H-1B visas around for the next 10 years and then face them out completely as well, and rely on American talent, rely on Americans going to good universities, not competing with foreigners, with, you know, CCP money in their back pockets, and to really put

Americans first and instead of back-burnering them like we've been doing for years now. Speaking of that immigration issue with the Chinese nationals being like, hey, this is a really nice H-1B visa you have. if it'd be a shame if something happened to it, you will spy for the CCP, right? You know, that situation that you were describing and a lot of industrial espionage, I would imagine. And also ripping off of intellectual property,

which is another conversation too. But I remember a story in which China had actually set up police stations in some of the major cities. I remember New York was one of those in which, you know, they essentially were acting like, police on some of their immigrants? Is this maybe where the spying ends up happening, you know, when you end up having these fake Chinese police operating on U.S. oil? Yeah, and I believe a lot of those Chinese police little patrol units were situated in sanctuary

cities where a lot just gets to fly under the radar. I don't think it's inherently connected to a specific visa or specific form of Chinese immigration to the U.S., but I do think that the more Chinese students we have in the U.S., the more that the Chinese Communist Party is going to be involved, whether it be making them, you know, take photos of military equipment on military bases, or making them recruit spies or sitting in on lower level government meetings, things like that, infiltrating their way into the government, they're going to have to report that information back. And it does make it easier if there's presently Chinese Communist Party members in the U.S. to receive that information. So the more we have Chinese students, the more we're going

to have CCP involvement in the West. Or you could get elicited relationships with a, well, a sitting congressman or senator, something like that. It's all sorts of ways you can play this. I don't think we need to go into the details for sure. Hannah Davis, Investigations Manager at the Federation for American immigration reform fair us dot org hannah we appreciate your work you can read up on what we've been talking about and a lot of other immigration issues that are still in play right now at fair us dot org thank you so much thanks for having me 651 this is kmED but hurry deadline for pickup is november 28th you're hearing the bill mire's show on 1063 kmede 653-7-0-5-6-3 for you a little bit of open phone time

if you wanted to weigh in on one particular topic but how do you read this this dust-up over H-1B should they be reduced or do you think President Trump is right when he says that we need the talent that we don't know that we don't have the homegrown competitiveness you know there's a case to be made

for both sides, don't you think? Really? I'm looking here at an article. Now, I don't know this is necessarily a sign. I mean, we already know. You already know, we all know that there are big challenges with our educational system in the state of Oregon. We're near the bottom of the ratings. We've been there for quite some time.

Now, OPB was reporting the other day, and I was looking at this. Oregon Department of Education report is showing small declines in 2010 and 2011 of public school enrollment, but since 2020, Oregon public school enrollment has dropped by more than 37,000 students. This is as the population of Oregon has sort, right? And so public school enrollment is down. Part of this, they do think private schools and homeschooling.

Private schools and homeschooling because people are saying, you know, all right, we'll get on the school board and we'll try to save the education system for the future students, but to save my kid right now, I need to get him or her out. The state doesn't really know where everyone is, and of course they want more information. I'm sure they'd like everybody to be registered with the state for your permanent record, that sort of thing. They do note, though, in this story, Oregon's birth rate has been declining for years. It trend that school districts and even universities have been paying a close attention to, COVID-19 made it worse.

But the other thing, though, I thought was interesting that OPB brought up in this report is that there are a lot of students that are just avoiding the government school system, period, dropping out early or getting GEDs and doing other things here. They talked about a student named Dale, who is part of the Class of 2025 student project that OPB was. doing, Dale lives with his grandma in Lincoln City. And around seventh grade at about the time when COVID-19 was going, making all the schools go to remote learning, Dale was starting a new school. And he says, I just never really wanted to be there. And so he left school. And he said, I'd rather learn life skills, trades, and do other important stuff that would actually get me somewhere

in life. So they say he's reporting, they report that he's working, doing a little bit of everything, working on septic tanks to painting and maintenance work around Lincoln City. And it wasn't just Dale, he said. There were a lot of kids affected by it. So, in other words, our response to COVID and doing the Licksbiddle thing for the teachers union has forced a generation of kids out. They're saying, hey, we see nothing here. And then at the same time, the university system in Oregon is so woke and anti-male.

It's like, do you really want to be a conservative or just mainstream, regular testosterone-fueled male going into the feminized Oregon University system that hates them? Maybe not. I don't know. 7-70-0, KMED, let me go. I think this is Francine. How are you doing, Francine? Welcome. It's on your mind.

Good morning, Bill. Yeah. You know, this whole new world order that's coming down on us, they've been working it for a very long time. And the whole the goal is to have a smaller population under the rule of communism where the elite

of course, don't have to deal with that kind of step. They're the rulers. And if you recall, sometimes during Obama's presidency, there were all these so-called rumors, which were not really rumors, about Chinese troops training up near the Canadian border. And there was Diane Feinstein, I think it was in 18, 2018, who had the Chinese spy chauffeur.

And, I mean, it's just, it's ongoing, just a little bit here and a little bit there, just on and on and on and on. So having the Chinese, I mean, I think I don't understand why President Trump is doing this unless he's in on it. I mean, I don't know. I don't. You know what? No, I don't believe he is in on it in the way that you describe.

I believe that he's looking for a trade win, and I think that he is so hyper-focused on getting a trade win. When I talk about a trade win, I'm talking about, you know, a trade deal getting something renewed here with Chairman G that he's willing to throw. this as a bone. And I do believe that there are people that are surrounding him in the administration. Some of the people are going, listen, you know, there just aren't enough Americans that can fill these jobs. This is the same thing, though, that we've been hearing for years and years and years. But, excuse me just a moment. I'm sorry. Just a second. Then I'll let you finish it. But the thing is, though, when they say that there aren't Americans available. I think you and I and most everyone knows. No, it's not available. Americans

have not been available at the price that tech bros wish to pay. Hence, enter the H-1B and the immigration system abuse. Okay? I think it's part of it. But I don't think you like President Trump's getting paid off on it or buy it or like he's getting his special globalist check in the mail or anything like that. I don't think it's that. Well, yeah, I don't think it's about a payoff per se. I think he's just kind of going along with the with the game with the flow because he knows it's inevitable and so why not you know what I mean but but okay oh so you're saying tell his supporters one thing right one thing yeah I'm here make America great we're going to get these people out yada yada yada yada and then behind the scenes okay we know how it's really working yes

bring in 600 000 Chinese communist students right is that what you're saying he can't be that he can't be that stupid and then here's you know back when during his first term I had some hopes that he was, you know, everything that he claimed to be, or almost everything that he claimed to be, and that he cared about the things he claimed to care about. And, and he stood up for the, quote, unquote, anti-vaxor people, you know, like, you should not be forced to get a vaccine, blah, blah, blah. And the last thing he did at the end of his term was get his vaccine, I think he got it on TV or something if I'm not, a lot of people, a lot of those people did. And, and urging everyone to get their vaccine. And that right there was like, boing.

You know, it just told me a whole lot about who he is and what he's willing to do. And like I was saying the other day about, you know, our own people running for governor and how everybody wants to be governor and nobody wants to make room to make it so we actually win. You know, he's not thinking about really what's helping to people. He wants his achievements to, you know, go down in history as being great and magnificent. And it's all about his ego. And the country suffers behind it. And so in some ways, I mean, you know, the whole No Kings thing and everything, I understand why those people go there.

And sometimes I look at them and say, yeah, you're trying to be acting a little, like, you know, he's got, you know, the royal dust up as you know what. Okay, well, hey, the thing is, though, is that there is pushback now. And I'm actually glad to see that. There is starting to be more pushback. Yeah, and I'm glad that Laura Ingram. I'm glad Laura Ingram needleed him on that because it needed to be done because maybe his own staff people aren't willing to do that or aren't able to. That could be what's going on, too. I agree.

I really appreciate you having had her on this morning. Oh, Hannah, yeah, Hannah from Federation for American Immigration Reform. All right, thanks so much. Well, hey, if Laura wants to come on, great. Of course, the fact of the matter is that Laura Ingram is a nasty piece of work if you've ever worked with her behind the scenes in the talk radio. world. And I know people who have. So that's fine. But that also made her the perfect person to then ask President Trump, okay, this is not make America great yada, yada, yada, because you don't care. It's kind of like Honeybadger.

Anyway, hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome. Have you on. Hey, Bill. Stephen, Sunny Valley. Hey, Steve, what's up? Well, the first thing, it's obvious why he's doing this. It's because he was surrounded by tech bros on the stage at the last big conference. And the tech pros want it because it's cheap labor. But I say, let them all come in. Just give them a mandatory substance piercing and put them on trans hormones.

Okay. Send them back. You know what, what, turn them into Oregonian students? I mean, what? Is that what you're trying to do or what? Yeah, yeah. Get all of these young, innocent Chinese students over here and turn them trans and send them back to China. Okay.

Yeah. Well, they don't really go for that agenda. in China, which tells you a lot, doesn't it? It speaks volumes. Yeah. All right. Thanks, Steve. I appreciate the call, and we'll continue this conversation.

John Birch Society. You guys, I have a little trouble with frogs in the throat this morning for some reason. John Birch Society joins me after news, Hannity updated a bunch more, and there's still lots of finger-pointing going on in the wake of the government shutdown that is now over. But are we going to get back to normal? Thank you.