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The Bill Myers Show podcast is sponsored by Klausur drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausor drilling.com. That's 770 KMED. Brand Funk, American Treasure, as far as I'm concerned. I've got to tell you. Harry-chested caveman rock and roll, and I loved it when I was growing up. Let me talk with deplorable Patrick.

How you doing this morning? D.P., good to have you on. Hey, good morning. having a great morning listening to your program. Well, thank you. Thank you. What's on your mind? Totally interesting.

And anyway, I have two items here that are old, old media, and one of them I did a little looking into it. I got my hands on an old reel-to-reel tape. Oh, yes. Yeah. Yeah, real-to-reel tape. And we were talking earlier this hour with J.R. Biolick, who was written this book about, you know, lost history. And then we ended up talking about the Internet Archive is where we were going with something like that. So back to how do you preserve history? Tell me a bit about that.

Go ahead. Well, I did look into it. Now, this real-to-reel tape is, I guess it's from a recording studio or something, because it's, one foot diameter. It's an Apex 456. Now, is it one foot or one inch? Do you want to make sure? I'm talking about the diameter of the reel. It's like a foot. Oh, okay. How thick is it? Is it like a quarter inch, half inch, one inch tape? Well, just, I haven't pulled it out of the box yet, but I think it's half inch tape. And crude notes came with it, but I started looking into it and you can, there is a company in Arizona that you can send it to, and for not unreasonable amount of money,

they'll take it off of there, but... Yeah, they'll play whatever's on it and then give it to you in a different format, right? For a certain amount of money, they'll review it and tell you what they think, and then you can go ahead if you want to, but they do caution you that those tapes can deteriorate while they're sitting there. Yes, they can, and in fact, a lot of times, even in the old recording studios like Abbey Road and various other things, they'll have to bake the tapes at a low temperature to reactivate some of the adhesives that would hold the oxide onto the tape,

because otherwise you try playing it, it would just all come off. You just lose the music. Yeah. Come apart, I guess. So the next thing is, and I want to ask you for your advice, I have a very rare booklet, 40 pages. It's a Bible study type subject. It's very important.

And I think I got the last one off Amazon. What I'd like to do is reproduce it. And I could like spend a lot of money talking Lynn Martin into doing it, or maybe my daughter. But is there a better way than just sitting there and keying in everything? I mean, I know you can go to a Xerox machine, but that might be one emergency effort. but would you think optical character recognition would be useful?

Oh, I would agree. OCR optical character recognition is much, much more sophisticated than it once was. I think that if you could, I don't know if a Kinko's or some other group could do that. Of course, scanners are pretty inexpensive these days, and then you do that with your computer. I'm no expert at this, though, so I might be a little flat-footed. We'll leave it to the Southern Oregon jury to come up with a better idea. Yeah, it would be a big effort to have somebody sitting there keying everything in and reproducing it, but it would be worth it. Well, it'd be faster than using a stone tablet like we were joking about earlier.

Yeah, a lot of carving with a chiseled. All right, D.P. Thanks for the call. Let me go to Wild Salmon. Hey, Steve, how are you doing? Go ahead. Yeah, I'm doing okay, Bill. How are you guys? Well, you're having a good morning. I'm having a good morning, always. You know, weirdness in the world and weirdness in history, too. What are you thinking, huh? Well, okay, from the scientific record, we had an ice age that started 100,000 years ago, and really only began to subside about 10,000 to 20,000 years ago. During that ice age, the ocean level dropped 400 plus feet.

And if you think about humanity and what it was like, it was very cold at the edges of the ice age. shelf. Sure. And so humanity would likely move to the warmest climate we could find, which would be closer to the ocean level. And as the ice shelf began to change about 20,000 years ago, we know that there were floods that happened, the Bonneville flood, which is in the area of Boise, where the alluvium is 800 feet deep. And in eastern Washington, the badlands all were caused by a Columbia River flood. And so we know that the Earth has changed dramatically over time. And the beginning of the Ice Age was probably slow.

The end of the Ice Age was probably pretty fast. So we lost a lot of humanity's records when the ocean came up. We should be looking at somewhere around 300 feet deep in the ocean for records, at least cities or, you know, structures based on what we know happened on the earth. It's a very good point. Steve, I appreciate you raising that. A lot more on the earth has gone on than we know about today, at least, right? Appreciate the call.

Hey, if you're on hold, I'll be right with you here, 7705-633. And just kind of enjoying the conversation this morning on Pebble in Your Shoe Tuesday. This is the Bill Meyer show. This is Charlene. Adam. The chance of rain late Wednesday and Thursday. All right. 14 minutes after 8, and it's pebble in your shoe Tuesday, which means I'm happy to go to your calls.

And I just want to, we're just going to hit him as they came in. And first up, we have Gene. Hello, Gene. You want to talk Epstein briefly here. Go right ahead. What's your point? Well, the Democrats didn't release the files, but they're sure yelling to get him released now. So is there anything in the Epstein files that you can actually believe?

leave or have they alter everything? It's an open question at this point. I guess we'll see what we see, and then we may have a better idea. But right now, yeah, I can't answer. It's just pure conjecture or opinion on my part, but you're thinking there's something to hide? Oh, I think that the Democrats of Alder, you're not going to find any Democrat politician listed in the file because they've had too many years to alter it. Well, we'll find out if they come out and they vote for it, then maybe you're right.

We'll see, Gene. Okay. Thanks for the call. 770563. Let me go to Jay. Jay, you wanted to give me a heads up on why travel Mepford gets its budget boosted right now, in spite of the fact that there's nothing to talk about for maybe several years. Can you help me understand that part with the stadium and everything else?

Go ahead. Yeah, so I spent 10 years as the finance director for the City of Grants Pass. I know grants passed better than I know Medford, but there was a state law that was implemented probably almost 25 years ago now that says that if any city, after that date that this new state law went into place, any city or county that increases their rate, they have to share a certain percentage with tourism promotion. Well, it actually says with tourism, but it doesn't necessarily have to go with tourism promotion. So I could see it going to, in fact, they could have taken all the money and put it

into building the stadium. But I don't think you have to have a lock of having to give it to travel Medford specifically, do you? Well, in Medford's case, I think you do because that's how they provide their tourism promotion services. So the tourism industry, back when this law first went in place years ago, the tourism industry said, well, if we're going to let you tax more, you have to spend a certain amount of those revenues on promoting our industry. And so in grants pass, I don't remember what the exact percentage is, but it's around 30%. So grants pass has increased their tax rate a couple of times over the years, including just about two or three years ago. Grants Pass did something similar. And a certain percentage

of that increase has to go to whatever service or whatever. process that they used to promote tourism. Yeah, and I agree. I wasn't aware that the law had specifically tourism promotion because there are all sorts of things that could be used for. I'll look into that because I am familiar with the law that you talked about, but I don't have it sitting in front of me, but thank you, Jay, for explaining a bit of that. All right? Thank you. Yeah, so my guess is without seeing the terms of the measure itself, my guess is they're doing that because they have to, not necessarily because they want to, although there's Maybe some of them want to as well, but they are obligated by law to a certain percentage.

I know that the money has to go for tourism, but does it have to go to tourism promotion? That is the question. But point well taken. Jay, thank you very much, all right. Let me go to, Mike. You had a question on the stadium, too. I don't know if I can answer it, but I'll try. Maybe somebody else can figure it out if I can't.

Morning. Good morning. I've enjoyed the dialogue regarding the stadium, and I strongly oppose it. My question is, I just saw that the Medford rogues are spending a significant amount of money to tear up their grass turf and install real turf. And they struggle, but they are supported by the community. I don't believe there's enough people in Medford of the Valley to support bringing a bigger baseball team here. But is there any guarantee that the Eugene Emerald would even be available to move to Medford in five years? I don't.

If they did come, what happens to the poor Medford rogues? they'll be out of business. Yeah, well, I don't know what the answer to that is. This is still a work in progress, Mike, truly. And I think what I might start doing is inviting a Medford City Council. I know right now they're just trying to get good solid numbers and what it would cost to do the ball stadium. And if they can really afford to do it.

This is a big question. They're asking the same question like what you're doing right now. All right. Well, let's hope that it doesn't happen. Thank you. Okay. All right. I appreciate the call, Mike.

Lynn's here. Hello, Lynn. How are you? Morning. Hi, good morning. A couple quick things I wanted to talk about. Sure. One, the phonics discussion, 35 years ago, I had been a CASA. By the way, if you don't mind me bringing this up what I talked about at 6 o'clock, I was expressing my pebble in my shoe because I was reading this article from the Willamette week, and Christine Pitts is saying that the reason that we have no kids to be able to read or, you know, bottom of the barrel in public school is because we don't have top-down management of the school checking up on them and that we're not into the science of reading.

And I just, my eyes glaze over when I read that. But now you can pick up where you're going so people know what we were talking about, okay? Yeah, so about 35 years ago, we decided to become foster parents and had an eight-year-old little girl in our home who didn't know the letters made sounds, didn't know how to read, didn't know any of that. and she was in special ed over at Orchard Hill. And I went to talk to the teacher about it and said, well, what about phonics? And she says, well, we find that these children just can't learn with phonics. Well, I thought that was complete BS. I went out and bought a cheap phonics text of Samuel Blumenthal.

It was super boring. But I sat down with her for 15 minutes a night, and in 30 days she was reading. It's not rocket science. It really isn't. And so anyway, I just want to make that point and support you. And Mississippi, I think, has brought their reading scores dramatically up there, putting to shame all the other states. And they've reintroduced phonics. It's not hard.

Yeah, but they don't want to call it phonics, right? Because all of a sudden, it's almost like saying that we don't need the high priest or high priestess to be able to dispense the science of reading. Yeah. You hear that kind of... Now, you were a substitute teacher at one point, too, weren't you? Yeah, I did that for about five years. Yeah. Most of the kids could read somewhat, but that big issue there that bothered me was they don't make the kids memorize their math facts. So you've got high schoolers and honors math who have to use their calculator to know what eight times six is.

Oh, that is such nonsense. And, of course, there was this real anti-wrote learning. Well, we don't want rote learning. We want you to understand the new math that parents can't even comprehend. And, you know, it's kind of out of the system. And the thing about Roat Learning is that it put the basics, it embedded it into your consciousness. So that way, as you got older, you were able to understand the concepts. Isn't that really what it was about? Right. And this is what has fostered the explosion in classical education.

There was a woman, she was a contemporary at C.S. Lewis, her name was Dorothy Sayers. And she wrote an essay called The Last Tools of Learning. And she talked about how small children, they're just natural memorizers. And especially if there's rhythm or rhyme or song, they soak up everything. So what you ought to be doing in education is filling their minds with lots and lots of facts. It doesn't matter if they understand them. Just get it in there. And then as they mature and are able to handle it, it's already there.

And then they learn to work with the information. And that's the type of education that produces people who can think for themselves, read for themselves aren't dependent on, you know, some expert or something. So, yeah, and this is why if there's a classical school that's opening, people are beating the doors down if they can afford it. I know that we have Knox Classical Education in Southern Oregon in this area. Is that the only classical school? Yeah, there were parents tried to open up a classical public charter school, and Pam

Marsh and Jeff Golden got together and quashed it. So that's been very difficult to get a public charter school. going well you know what's going on there they're concerned that uh the classical education would show up all of the well the science of reading type people it totally does it's amazing all right good call as always lynn 7705 633 it's open phones on pebble in your shoe tuesday if you're on hold i will get to your call just a moment we have kim commando's digital update coming up and i'll get right to your call and a good conversation this tuesday this hour of the bill myers show is sponsored by Fontana Roofing. For roofing gutters and sheet metal services, visit fontanarroofing services.com.

The purchase of a 290AF Rogue River in South Jackson County on 1067 K-294-A-S. Ashland. All right, it's 828. Mozy up to the talk bar, and we'll get some more folks in here on Pebble in your shoe Tuesday. Let me go to Guido. Guido, what's on your mind today, huh? Go ahead. Wanted to go back to this lovely city here of Mepard. Okay. You know, we had the aquatic center built for way over budget. We did the downtown, you know, Main Street. Now they want to spend millions again to study changing it.

Yeah, hopefully to put it back as it were. Now, I know Thursday is when the city council is going to be taking more comment on that. But to me, the obvious thing is to just put it back to what made sense. but that's me. Yeah, I mean, it was a stupid setup just from the get, but they wanted to state money, so they had to do something with it. And down now, they want to tax the people coming into town, the hotel tax. Yeah.

And, you know, they're not famous for handling the money very wisely. Well, how would you define it as wisely, though? Because I'm sure that, you know, the hotel, the hotel, are happy to have taxpayers, you know, pay for their stuff to help their business out. I get that, but... Yeah, but it's not going to the hotels and the motels. It's going to the government. Okay.

It means that their customers are paying more for their visit to Medford. Ah, very, very interesting point. Guido, I appreciate the call. 770-K-M-B-D. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome. Hello. Bill is Brad. Oh, hey, Brad.

Yeah, go ahead. Go ahead. Thanks. Yeah, hey, good morning. So I think, you know, to help folks understand better about this Creekside quarter and how improving the chamber, improving travel Medford improves Medford, Eli Matthew is on there, you know, the head to go under there, and he can maybe, you know, explain why they think giving them more money makes Medford better for everybody else. I don't want to throw rocks at the deal just because it's of questionable success.

My point in this thing is, is the question I would ask, Bill, does making this possible improvement, does it make life better for all the people that already live there, right? In other words, if you go up to Portland and you go around the motor center up there, people love to go and watch the trailblazers and the other events there, but nobody wants to live there. So what are the impacts of putting, you know, let's wave a magic wand and build all this out. What is the impact not to the folks that are going to visit? What's the impact of the people that already live there or maybe live within a mile and a half of there?

What is it going to do to their living situation? Well, my issue with this is this, but, you know, sports tourism is held out as the panacea for everything. Yes. You know, that is my concern, sports tourism. And the other part we have to remember is that tourism are dollars that are extra. You know, it's after you've taken care of everything else. Now, do you think that we have that much of a magnet that this will just attract, I guess what I call the stupid money, people with nothing else better to do become spending?

Maybe that's, you know, what we're supposed to do. because we're not supposed to do anything really productive any longer, I guess. And I'm sorry to sound negative when I say that, but you know what I'm getting at? You can understand. Well, so the argument of tourism is it makes it better for the business community. They've got more people to sell food, two services, two things. Yeah, but it's usually low-dollar jobs, is it not? But, well, but does tourism make things better for the people that actually live here?

Because they're the ones they're going to wind up funding this whole thing. yeah i know but is it but is it is not the tourism industry i'm not knocking it but generally speaking isn't it relatively a low dollar type of uh economy if you're talking about the people that are working within it generally i'm i'm not an expert economist but if you had to ask me whether i agree or disagree with what you just said i would probably agree yeah because are you going to make more building it than you are actually running it see what they're getting at construction yeah they'll be fine you know out of that

Yeah. Well, the Oregon and I grew up in, we had such a strong resource-based economy that we had plenty of money to buy houses, build schools, build anything we want. We didn't need any tourism dollars. I mean, maybe there were some tourism dollars, but we didn't care. We had such a strong economy with jobs in our local cities that we lived in. We didn't care about any of this kind of stuff because everybody had plenty of money to do whatever they wanted. Yeah, point well taken. Appreciate the call, Brad. 633-3-3-7-70 KMED. I'll take two more, and then we'll have to wrap it for this time. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Hello. Well, this is Ed, Bill. Hello, Ed.

How are you, Bill? I'm fine, Ed. Well, I've got a giant bubble in my shoe. I sent you some emails, and it's all related into the sports tourism, the idea of all of this stuff, the ridiculous stuff. idea of supporting a stadium in downtown Medford by Hawthorne Park, all of this stuff. And it all goes back to education. So your key thing that you were talking about today was the education and how it's done. But the principal, and this is so complicated, but yet so

simple. It's a social engineering concept and construct. And what they've done, is implemented a control factor to dumb down the population, which is by it's acceptable to them to have the low reading schedule or low reading results from what we have. You look at the idea of a successful program is the outcome. Now, if the outcome for years is going downhill and it's wrong and it's, not doing productive things, well, wouldn't it be wise to change that? But it's the structure that the Oregon Department of Education has in place through these consensus models, through all of these things, that creates a way to keep

the social engineering principle at play. So if they dumb everybody down, oh, you only want to have an economy based on tourism. Well, you know, that's, but it's true, though. You're right. You're right. If you have a citizenry who can't read, it can't do higher reasoning, you know, number 50 in reading stats, you know, for fourth graders right then. They'll buy the idea that sports tourism will be the economic savior. Well, Brad just said a few minutes ago when he called about when they had a resource-based economy and they had money to buy houses.

They had money to do this, money to do that. And they had monies for schools, too, for that matter. Yes, that's right. Every aspect of their direction is wrong. But now what I sent you earlier was a breakdown of the Oregon Department of Education, how it all works, how it's all interrelated. But who is on the theory of all of this stuff? And the biggest thing is, oh, they're real active incline issues.

Well, even Bill Gates is saying it's not a problem. Oh, but we're still thinking it's a problem, though. We're still down that rabbit hole, Ed. You know that. That's what I was just going to say. Climate-friendly, equitable communities enforced by the governor with the agency power. That's right. And then that goes back to the idea that every aspect of what you had here was implemented through legislative action.

That we have to reduce our CO2 emissions to pre-1994 levels or something, something in the mid-90s, 92 levels or something. Yeah, and ultimately, since I'm running short on time, if we're not willing to take on that piece of BS, which it is, then all you're going to get is sports tourism instead of anything actually productive for the Valley, right? And the reality to it is it perpetuating, because if you can't read, you can't argue against them.

That's right. They keep everybody at bay by going down this ridiculous. policy changes, and the control of it, and the control is not American control. It's a commoner collaborative control, and it's just so frustrating. Yeah. Let me talk to you all fair about this, because I don't have time to flesh it all out right now, but I haven't read what you said yet. Okay? We'll have it back, and hey, all sorts of others. I'll take one more call. They're going to have to wrap it on this this morning. It's been a busy pebble in your shoe Tuesday. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome.

Good morning, Bill. David and Phoenix. Yeah, David. Can you give me a quick one here? I'm just short on time. I'm sorry to... I sure can. My pebble is this was all preventable. I... After the horses left the barn one more time, we're all complaining and carping about this. We had our chance. I asked people to vote. No. I couldn't even get people to go out and vote. I voted, but apparently a lot of people couldn't. So that's my pebble in the show. I mean, after the fact, when we had something we could do about it, we, now we're all going to complain about it.

It really bothers me. Well, I know. We're complaining about it, but I think the people who are complaining about are the ones that voted. I voted no. Yeah, I voted no, too. Okay? All right, my friend. All right.

Thank you. But see, now we're having a deal with the refuse of this, okay? It's 838 at KMED, 993 KBXG. Oregon Truck and Auto Authority is... Good morning. This is News Talk 1063, KMED. And you're waking up with the Bill Myers Show. Delight having you here, it's 843,

and every now and then on Tuesday, we talk with Lisa McLeese-Kelly of Network and Action, and we find out what is going on there and some of the new people that have come in here for Open for Business. Lisa, how you doing? Good morning. By the way, you sound really good on Homeless Joe Coffee, you know?

Thank you. How's that working out, by the way? What, the Homeless Joe? Yeah, yeah, the homeless Joe. Oh, it's the best coffee ever that you will taste. It is so good. And you're helping people get a room for the night, a meal. You're helping them just by drinking coffee.

It's a really great deal. You know, it's interesting that the Trump administration is working on changing all of this housing first kind of thing, and which he's going to require that the state of Oregon, if someone's going to want to stay, they can't just get a house. They have to go in for treatment, too. And I'm wondering this will end up helping places like gospel. rescue in various other. That would be great. Yeah. Gospel Rescue Mission Grants Pass is an amazing place.

All right. Well, tell me a little bit more about network and action for those that have not heard from you, the last 10, 12 times you've been here, okay? So network and action is a business meeting that we come together once a month. It's networking and mastermind. We have business owners and high-level professionals. We have a different agenda every month. And our goal is to help them grow professionally, personally, and of course, grow their business. Now, you brought to some members in this morning, right? I did. I brought the Rob show with me.

So we have two Robs. Okay, so this is, fortunately, they're here personally. They were on the phone. It would be a lot harder, you know, to deal with this one. But I wanted to direct this over to Rob Hamilton, who may be out of camera, camera range. I don't know, but Rob, it's good to have you here. Good to be here. Rob, you are the senior business partner at BBSI. Can you tell us a little bit about that? You bet. So BBSI, Barrett, Business Services Incorporated.

Been around since the 50s, and basically we've evolved into a company that provides, wraparound services for small businesses. So things like payroll, HR, risk and safety, business consulting, recruiting talent acquisition. The whole idea is a set of integrated services. Is it almost in some way it sounds like a super, almost like a super HR slash payroll, kind of like, all right, you're working on this side of the business actually getting business will actually help you with the nuts and bolts. Would that be a fair? That's completely the idea. So a lot of small businesses go into business. You know, very high percentage go out of business in their first few years.

of operations simply because they can't handle kind of the administrative stuff that we do. So we do all that stuff so they can focus on growing their business. Yeah, what is most impactful for your clients, you think, of what you offer. I will say across the board, although I think all of our services are wonderful. And you're beautiful, too. And thank you. And the world is beautiful. I would have to say our HR consulting simply because I think most small business owners

have a big heart for their employees, but they don't really know. the mine field they're starting to walk through when they start to have employees. So I think HR consulting and compliance. Could you give me an example? I mean, you know, the HR, the pitfalls that someone is, oh, I'm just going to hire someone because they're my friend, let's say. Well, that's a huge pitfall right there. That's a big quick sand pit. But, you know, a couple of big things that, you know, from the standpoint of breaks and paid time off and when they have a family emergency, an employee has a family emergency. There's all these leave programs you need to navigate and integrate.

And if you do it wrong, you can get in trouble even by having a right heart for your employees. So our professionals help navigate and help employers navigate those types of situations. And follow the law, which could be very challenging and confusing. Very challenging and confusing, especially in the state of Oregon. You know, I mean, I think we all have the right idea when it comes to trying to make sure employees are treated fairly. but in Oregon, it's difficult, and that's one of the reasons we're around is to help that. Tell us a little bit about your experience with Network and Action. Well, network and action, it's, you know, for us being introduced and seeing small business owners

and having them become aware of BBSI is kind of important things. So we've looked at a lot of different networking groups, and we're involved throughout the Valley in a lot of different networking groups. Networking and action is that perfect blend of being able to talk. about your business, being able to learn about other businesses, but deeply enrich relationships with the members that are there in a no-pressure kind of way. It's a great combination of all the elements that make a good networking group work, but it's relaxed, and it's deep, and you get to know these people and care about these people. And I would say that's really what differentially

it's network and action. Of course, Lisa has a heart like that to begin with. So that combined with the structure of NIA, it works perfectly for us. You know, Lisa, he could be your PR guy. You know that. Rob, good point. And what is, how can people find out more about BBSI? Well, BBSI, you can go out to BBSI.com, or you can drop by our office over on Cardinal Avenue. You can give us a call at 541-7-something.

Gosh, darn it. I should have that number of memories. 7-72-69. There you go. I don't know my own telephone number. Give us a call. Go out to our website, drop-by. We'll come to our Christmas party on December 4th from 3 to 6th over at our Cardinal Avenue location.

You're invited. Good enough. So come on over and get to know us and we'll love to spend time with you. Thank you very much, Rob. And joining me next year. Oh, so we're taking that out. Okay, good. Okay, all right.

Well, we're going to go from one Rob to another Rob here from Network in Action. This time, though, you're Robert Reynolds. You're the CPA. You're the one who keeps the numbers in the right place. Go ahead and step up there. Tell us a little bit about your business here. if you don't mind. Yeah, that's right. I am a CPA. I've got over 10 years of experience. Prior to starting my own firm, I was working at Deloitte, which is one of the largest accounting firms.

Huge. Yeah, in the country. I was over on the East Coast living in New York City, working out of the Stanford, Connecticut office. And I moved over to Southern Oregon just under a year ago. So from Connecticut to here? Right. Yeah. What's your experience been like? Just curious. What's your impression? I love it. I love the air. Love the scenery. And I have family here, which is what brought me back. I actually went to high school in Cave Junction. And with my experience as a tax professional and combining that with the needs of this community, I think it's a perfect fit. There was a lot of need when I got here. There was a CPA who was ready to retire, and I ended up buying the practice, and I took over officially in June. Very good. And do you still have people that just

sometimes don't think about calling the CPA first, and then they walk in with like a cardboard box and just dump it on your desk and say figure it out. Does that stuff really happen, or is that kind of something from the movies? Yeah, that's all part of educating the clients. And, yeah, I do get some folks who sometimes bring in a bit more paperwork than they need to. But that's part of my communicating with them and telling them, no, I don't need every single receipt. I just need you to summarize it for me so that I can, as long as you have the receipt, that's all that's needed. What's it been like now that you joined a network in action for you?

How has it helped you? Oh, network and action has been great. I really appreciate Lisa's advice and help, and I appreciate the community that she has brought together with these business and action meetings. And I've actually personally, my experience, I actually went to my first meeting in January, and I got two really great clients out of that first meeting. Just the first one. Yeah, and I just went as a guest. So you're paying, it's paying for itself right away. Oh, yeah, for you.

For sure. and I joined Fiscily in July. Okay. That's great to know. And when it comes to this need, so you're a CPA, for those that don't know, it's a certified public account, but what do you actually do? What are the basic services that you're offering for clients and how can people find out more about you?

Because I know you're not just one, you're in two locations here. Right. So I have an office in Cave Junction, and I have an office, my main office is in Grants Pass. All right. So you're a Joe County for the most part. Yes. And my specialty is tax. I know CPAs can do a lot of various different things.

What I focus on is taxation, income taxation mostly. I help individuals and small businesses. And I like to focus on those clients who want to do the year-round tax planning and tax strategizing more than just a tax return-only type clients. Got it, okay. Although I still am taking those tax return clients. What kind of changes have you had to come up with here now that, well, okay, the big beautiful bill keeps going, but I don't think Oregon taxes have gotten any less complex for businesses, have they?

Well, it hasn't got less complex. I would say that some things are beneficial to business owners, such as the pass-through entity, elective tax, which allows business owners to deduct the Oregon taxes that they pay on their federal return. But that's going away at the end of this year, unless the legislature actively renews it, which we're not really sure where that's going to say. stand. And then, of course, there's the corporate activity tax, which all we businesses love.

Yes. We love it. And we love the transit tax being doubled. That's what you're here to figure it all out, right? Well, the, yeah, corporate activity tax, all those different types of income taxes that are part of it. Yeah, that's part of my purview. So small farmer, small business owner, farmer, just looking for the guidance, you'll help them out, and how do they get in touch with you? Yeah, sure. So my office, you can reach me at 541, 479, 1071. and my website is robert reynolds cpa.com well welcome to the area great to have you here thank you very much thank you very much the rob and robb show and now back to lisa for the wrap up here

and how do they get in touch with you in fact i had somebody who reached out to me yesterday and it was looking for one of your uh guests that we had on a few weeks ago and i had lost the notes it was the person who was looking to declutter remember that yes i'm michel mileyki from rogue organizer ah that's who it was Yeah. Okay. And I lost that. Well,

Rogueorganizer.com. Okay. Find her there. Well, I'll get that information off to that person. But if they wanted to get in touch with you over a network connection, what do you do, huh? Find out more. SOM networking.com. So just go to SOTworking.com.

And I'll tell you that I also own Kelly's Automotive Service, and we have been with BBSI for 12 years. Don't think we've been in business without them. All right. And Rob, you need that tax planning business owners. You need the tax planning. Don't just wait until the end of the year because now you're, losing money. So call these professionals. The idea is to figure it out how to structure yourself in the year, you know, prior to it. So that way you're, you know, reducing your impact or your

liability earlier rather than trying to fix it in the mix afterwards. Okay. Thanks, Lisa. Thank you. Great seeing all three of you on Open for Business. It is 853 and change. Now then, we have a leftover, Diner 62, Real American Quiz that, well, it got kicked out by the wreck of the Evan Fitzgerald. We were talking about. talking a lot about that last week. So I saved it. This time it's about the Aminaville horror, the real-life deal. So it's kind of like it almost could have been Halloween.

But if you haven't won this in the last 60 days, give it a shot next. 7705-633-770, KMED. And let's see if we can make you a winner at Diner-62 next. Just how clean is your water? Here's a note from Grantspass.com. Hi, I'm Michael, Gage of Construction, and I'm on KMED. Just having fun with the Diner-62, Real American Quiz. By the way, they have the hot, open-faced sandwiches are back.

Boy, they're delicious. The pot-roast sandwich served with mashed potatoes and brown gravy or the hot turkey sandwich with mashed potatoes, gravy, and cranberry sauce. Lovely. So let us talk the Amityville horror. But anyway, hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome.

Yeah, familiar to Bill. This is Gregory. Shady Cotee. Hey, Gregory. On the tragic evening of November 13th, 1974, Bouch DeFeyo Jr. kills his family with a third. 35 caliber Marlin Rifle. The gruesome murder shakes up sleepy Long Island town of Amniville

and leads to decades of horror storytelling, okay? Defeo told several bar patrons at the time that he was not the culprit, initially blamed the killing of his family on the mob, but he confessed the next day. He claimed that the voices from the house made him do it. Defeo was reportedly a known LSD and heroin user. Ronald DeFaio went on trial for murder, October 14th, 1975, his attorney argued for insanity, but Defeo was convicted.

How many people found dead in his house? Was it A, 2, B, 3, C, 4, D, 5, or E 6? What do you say? I'm going to pick the number 5. You're going to pick the number 5. No, it could have been less. It could have been more. We don't know, but thank you for trying, Gregory.

Let me go to the next high. Good morning. Who's this? Going what? Hello? Yeah, hi, who's this? Hello. Oh, hi, this is John.

Yeah, John. Two, three, four, or six? How many people were found dead in that house? Oh, how about three? Three, was it three? No, it wasn't. Hi, good morning. Who's this?

It's Jack, Bill. Jack, it's not three. It's not five. It's two, four, or six. What do you say? Let's go with six. Six. Yes.

You're a winner. He killed his entire family. Everybody. From a seven-year-old all the way up to mom and dad, oddly, no one in the neighborhood reported hearing gunshots, and there were no signs of struggle in the house. And Ron claimed he gave his family barbiturates, slipped into their dinner before shooting them. And during his trial, experts testified long delay between the family eight and when they died, making it unlikely that the drugs caused them to remain asleep during the shooting.

The claim about drugging the family was part of his shifting story about the event. So there we have a little bit of murder history this morning. Jack, off the diner 62 with you. Hang on. It's going to be great.