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Episode Date: November 20, 2025

Open phone talk on Patrick Wood talk and more - Kevin Starret joins from Oregon Firearms - Guarded optimism on gun purchasing rules. More of your calls follow.

The Bill Myers Show podcast is sponsored by Klausur Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausor drilling.com. KMED. A lot of people writing me about the talk with Patrick Wood, and I'll just mention a couple of them. One person who doesn't want me to mention names and things like that says, Hey, Bill, those flock cameras are extremely beneficial and not as sinister as one might.

I won't speak for our local police or. anyway, but you should have someone on from the department to explain them. Okay, all right. I just might, okay? I appreciate that. Dennis writes in a bill, excellent treatment of data centers from the Epic Times. Of course, it's totally in line with what Patrick Wood was talking about.

Article very informative, considering America's electrical grid is perilously in dangerous condition, seriously in need of an upgrade. And on the Epic Times, it's exposing the dark side of America's AI Data Center Explosion. Thank you very much for that. Scott from Jacksonville writes me, Bill, open up your critical thinking skills and stop being deceived. There is no Mars and no outer space. You and I will have a difference of opinion on this one, Scott. I know that you are, you're kind of a biblical, well, you've mentioned this as a biblical Earth, and I'm not a fan of that theory, all right? I'm just not, and I'm sorry, you know, it's, I guess my, I guess my, I

guess my faith, I guess my faith must be wrong, but, you know, I do believe that there is something out there. I don't think that we are just, you know, locked in a little hologram of some sort on a, on a flat plane. But maybe I'm wrong, and if I'm proven wrong, I'll be happy to say I was wrong when the time comes, okay? KMED, KMED, H.D-HD-1, Eagle Point, Medford, KBXG, Grants Pass. We'll catch up with Fox News and a bunch more for conspiracy theory Thursday. Some good news on at least potentially good news. on firearms ownership in the United States, at least in Oregon, at least before the TechNate takes over, if we're going down Patrick Woods talk, and a bunch more, all coming up along with your calls.

When it comes to your roof, getting started shouldn't be complicated. Tonight, 53, Friday, 55 Saturday. Eight minutes after eight, Kevin Serra joins me here in a few minutes after the Kim Commando Digital Update. And we're going to have good conversation, some good news, potentially about what is going on with firearms ownership here in the state of Oregon and also Governor Kotech the other day doing this a ceremonial signing and saying, oh, we're going to, our society would be much more safer because of the Senate bill that I have signed. I'll ask Kevin's opinion about that. By the way, since it is conspiracy theory Thursday, got to have a good open phone segment and we will do that after I talk with Kevin Starrant this

morning. Okay? That's going to be open phones for the rest of the hour. And then we can talk about what Patrick Wood was kicking in here. Does what he's talking about with. the technocracy, he believes that the technocracy is just rolling into power. And we're thinking, you know, we're going around and voting for presidents and senators and all these other people. And meanwhile, the, the technocrats kind of laughing at us. He's just like, those poor ignorant rubs out there. We're going to be the real power, you know, on this.

We can talk about that a little bit later, okay? Now then, gold, about 40, 80 an ounce this morning. It's been kind of boring. It's kind of a boring deal this week. He was kind of sitting there consolidating after that meteor, go up to about 435, 4,400, you know, in that neighborhood, and then it dipped down a bit. And then Rourbeck just kind of building a solid base here from the looks of it.

Silver at about $51 announced this morning. And you know the interesting part about the gold and silver? You know, who's buying it? Big money. Maybe the little people are selling, apparently. You know, the people who aren't selling it are the big banks. For something if they were criticizing all these years, they're not selling their gold right now. In fact, the central banks of the world are continuing to add to it, with rare exception, maybe Russia because they have to sell some of their gold reserves to pay for sending missiles over into Ukraine, you know, doing things like that.

So why do you think the big money, the big important money, and the biggest bankers are buying precious metals right now, while a lot of the little people are selling? Hmm. Maybe they're looking at it a longer time frame, maybe realizing that some of the shakiness in the Fiat Center, even though it's looking okay right now, the Fiat system, it's kind of okay for right now, but the cracks are starting to show. I don't know, but the one thing I can't tell you, though, is that when you're looking to buy and sell, and whatever you're looking to do, talk to the recognized experts about it because it's where I've been trading gold and silver for years and years. And that's Jay Austin Company, Golden Silver buyers, Fortune Reserve.com. Very busy there because a lot of people are kind of looking at what the big boys and girls are doing and going, hmm, all right. You know, the price goes up and then everybody sells their silverware and then are they looking at this the wrong way?

or maybe you're looking at 4,100 gold and just say, hey, I'm going to get out. And that's all it's going to do, and that it's going to crash back down to $50 against something. I don't know. But call them at 482-3715, 482-3715, get your appointment. It's very busy down there. But these are the people that will help you one way or the other. Scrap gold, scrap silver? Yeah, you bet they can help you with that too.

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Actually, have some guardedly good news on firearms ownership, and wanted to kind of catch up on. what was happening with expungements and more. But apparently there is something about Governor Kotech, which has been in the news. It was being reported by K2, picked up by other places, that she had a ceremonial signing of this Senate bill, Senate Bill 243. And Kevin, she says that in this story that it would stop devices that create weapons of mass casualty. Okay. math annoyance okay all right okay now the thing is what you're telling me though is that

this was being reported as a news item but it actually happened before earlier than then this week well this morning that story popped up on my news feed from coin you know one of the portland a i generated fake tv stations like it was a news story but that bill was part of the last session. And the Senate president and the House Speaker signed it on June 30th. Okay. The governor signed it on July 24th. Oh. So, you know, I didn't realize that and didn't catch it the first time, apparently, because there was a lot of stuff being signed, you know, back at that time. So I missed that. Well, but yeah, why would you? I mean, now, this story, the story I saw in coin I didn't say anything about it being some kind of celebration or another signing.

There's, of course, the obligatory picture with the cackle of hens, the who are moms demand action, you know, these old bitter cat ladies. It would no disrespect and tend it to my feline friends, you know. Yeah, because I have two cats. I'm a cat guy, you know, apparently. Oh, I'm going to still talk to you in spite of that. All right, thank you. You know, the thing is, is as we know from this recent mess with the, with the, um, the no tax petition, the governor has a limited amount of time to sign bills, and that depends

on whether they're in a round of session, but she, of course, waited until the last minute to make it as difficult as possible for signature gatherers to get the job done. But the bill was signed in July, and when I looked at this story, and I thought, does this make any sense at all? And interestingly enough, and I didn't see if it was reported elsewhere, I saw the coin story. within the coin story, which has a byline of Amy Plant, I don't know if Amy Plant is a living human being or is a bot of some kind. She links to the bill, actually the history, the Oregon website, the legislative website, has information on the bill, all its versions, and its entire history

with who voted for and against it, the dates that happened, and when it was signed by the Senate president, the House Speaker, and the governor. So one would think that a diligent reporter, okay, oxymoron, I get at that, would have taken time to have looked at the bill that she linked to if, in fact, she is actually a person, and just scroll down to the bottom to see what date the bill was signed. And if, in fact, there was some kind of ceremony, which I know nothing about, that some mention of that would have been made. But I think I have no idea. This should be a lesson to anybody who still has the slightest faith in the cartel media that you can trust nothing that's reported by 12-year-olds with iPhones. Yeah, well, I would agree with you, especially maybe with the younger reporters.

I actually know of two or three truly diligent reporters here in Southern Oregon. I do know of some that actually do commit journalism now and then. Okay, so it is capable, it is a capability out there of doing it, but generally speaking, probably the recent journalism graduates are not in that club, though. Some of them are kind of the old school ones back when, you know, the newspapers were, you know, big deals and some of them are still working and doing good work, in my opinion. But, you know, there are some astonishing reporters out there. I mean, Matt Taibi is a perfect example, but the people who work for local quote news outlets in Oregon,

are almost universally abysmal. And as I said, if there was a second signing ceremony on Tuesday, maybe. Well, you know, it wouldn't surprise me, though, you know, Governor Kotech, though, maybe she's thinking she needs to, you know, to have some good press other than just dragging her feet on the tax bills, you know, that kind of thing. And so, okay, well, we'll just sign Senate Bill 243 again ceremonially, ceremoniously, right?

This bill was so good, we signed it twice. Yeah. It could be. Or maybe, maybe this is what happened. This is conspiracy theory Thursday, after all, Kevin. Perhaps Governor Kotech wasn't really there, and that was a bot. And they, in danger to being... It was an auto pen.

Yes. Governor Kotech's auto pen. And so they figure, okay, well, we got to do this for real, you know, so I'll just kind of slide in the... Well, you know, but here's the thing is that, you know, you saw the story, and you had no reason to question it. You know, and I, of course, looked at it and said, wait a minute, I know that Bill was in last session, which you couldn't possibly have just signed it now. Yeah, it's right, in your wheelhouse. But yeah, I should have caught that, too, and I didn't.

So, sorry. But when you think about how many people, and I fully expect that I to be hearing from a number of people asking me, what is this all about? You know, what happened? What new bill got signed? Because, you know, people are not constantly just paying attention to the details of this nonsense. But I do think it's just another indication of how little faith you can put. I mean, this is, unfortunately, why we have to be kind of happy in some respects about the rise of the alternate media, some of which is wonderful, you know, some of the stuff that is available now

if you look for it on substack. But even the stuff that we see posted on X, which to a large extent is clickbait garbage, but at least we get to see some actual video of some real stuff, and we can start to discern for ourselves, you know, where we can see a guy in a frog suit shining a laser at a police officer next to a video of Ron Wyden saying everything's fine in his pumpkin patch, you know? I'm going to tell you there.

Well, you know, the nonsense and the absurdity of Oregon continues. I wanted this shift with you, but Kevin, thank you for correcting me because I saw that, and I didn't connect this like, Okay, why would she be signing it right now? That's right. The session was like several months ago. Duh. All right.

But anyway, we'll set that aside for right now. I'll bet you that was a K2 or coin TV bot. It probably was. And I'll bet you they're probably employing a lot of this right now. Well, I've seen this happen before where a story gets published that's like wildly out of date. And you wonder like, okay, so, you know, I have family of work in television. I know what it used to be like. that there were people who were like checking things and that just garbage didn't just go out.

But it's pretty amazing that some of the stuff you see, which is just so completely wrong. You know, it just, as I said, if there was some ceremonial signing, which I once again heard nothing about, it would have been something to point out while mentioning that, yes, in fact, this law has been in effect for some time. Okay. Let us go into what is going on with, at least when it comes to people who have had firearms owners who have had their records expunged. And one of the things that you were complaining about and digging into, and they have been lawsuits filed about this, or that people would have expungements, legal expungements,

and then the Oregon State Police would not recognize that. In other words, the judges would say, all right, your gun conviction or your problem, whatever it was, is now gone. It's off the record. And what would happen, though, is that the state of Oregon would not recognize it coming from judges in the legal system. It's very, very odd. Has there been any development in that recently? Yeah.

What's happened is, I guess, about a year a little bit more ago, an attorney from the Department of Justice got this idea that he was going to reinterpret the law and went to the state police and said, look, we're not going to recognize expungeance anymore. No changes were made. Not a single letter of the law was changed anywhere. But we're just not going to recognize it, just like saying, okay, we don't care what the law says. We don't care what it reads, but we just don't care. And we're not going to do it. And as a result, the state police started saying, well, if you have what in Oregon, I believe, is called a set-aside, we will no longer recognize that as a qualification for you to have your rights restored on a firearm. And for years, it was people who had their rights restored, were legally purchasing firearms.

And, in fact, you are told at the time that this set aside, what some people call an expungement, that that takes place that you may now legally say you've never been convicted of a felony. Sure. Now, those records are not supposed to be, they're not eliminated, but they're not supposed to be generally available. So how the state police got them is still a bit of a mystery, but a lot of people are being denied. And as a result for the last, oh, eight or nine months, a whole group of Oregon gun rights attorneys have been working on this and looking at it. And some of them had clients who had their rights taken away. And in some cases, those individual clients would sue. And in every case that I know of, they won the state, the judges said, no, your rights were restored to are allowed to purchase firearm.

Right. But the state police still had this policy of doing this. And so they can go and do a background check and they'd still get turned down, right? Precisely. And the potential ramifications of this were enormous. It went well beyond gun rights. How so? If, in fact, the state no longer believed that an expungement meant that your felony conviction disappeared, then anybody for generations who sat on a jury, with having said, I wasn't convicted of a felony because they believed they weren't because I had an expungement, that jury pool

could be tainted, and almost any trial could be overturned. Oh, my gosh, that's right. They could go back and then look at everybody that served on the jury. So, oh, this person had an expungement, so they're still convicted. And we had them on the jury, right? Exactly. Oh, man. Boy, what a nightmare that would be.

Impossible. Absolutely impossible. So this group of attorneys have been working together, and they've had a bunch of clients who have individually had their rights restored, but that was not applying across the state. And so what's happened is they were actually crafting a lawsuit, and we had, we've had multiple discussions about this. And I suggested that maybe with the change in the federal administration, we could avoid a lawsuit by just reaching out to the Trump administration and asking them to, because the state police were saying, oh, the FBI made us do this. And I think the FBI was

saying, no, we didn't have any to do with it. But anyway, there were attempts to reach out to Pam Bondi. Those were not successful. And then subsequently, an attempt was made to reach out to her meet Dylan. And soon after that, one of the lawyers got a phone call saying, yeah, this is, this is not right. And then I think yesterday, I saw an email from one of the attorneys who said that he had been contacted by Natalie Fisher, who's the attorney for the state police in these cases saying that, now this has to be very careful here, because, you know, when you get a whole train of emails and text going back and forth, that the state police were actually reversing previous denials. Now, what I want to be careful about here is that the question we had

was, okay, are they going to go fix all the people they screwed in the past? And that particular comment from that attorney indicated that, yes, in fact, they were. Oh, I believe now he was referring in that case to one specific person. That was a little unclear in the exchange. So there may not be a broad going back and fixing where the state police screwed gun owners, right? That remains to be seen, but there certainly is a, we're certainly moving ahead on this, where they're starting, interestingly, the Department of Justice Attorney who first came up with this airbrain scheme, my understanding, if he's left the state, I don't know where he went, but, you know, good for that, yeah, yeah, all right. But clearly progress is being made here. That's good. That's good. Now, I don't know if you can answer this or not.

I know neither of us are lawyers, but you talk to even more lawyers than I do, okay? Is this something that can be handled administratively where you would then go to the OSP, let's say, and say, hey, you know, you screwed me a couple of years ago. I was trying to buy a firearm and I would have an expungement. You wouldn't recognize it and you denied me. Now, can we fix this? Or do you have to do it through the legal process rather than an administrator process? There shouldn't be any legal process required.

The law is the law. The law says you can purchase a firearm. Okay. The problem is the state police firearms system, which should be named, you know, the firearms universal delay and deny system, you know, FUDs. Yeah. Their job is to create as many problems as possible. But the law is on our side in this case. And so while I can't in any way predict what would happen, it certainly seems to me that anyone who has been denied in the past as a result. of this is in a position to go back and apply again. Obviously, that would, I mean, it seems to me you should just be able to contact the state police and say, fix this, right? That's your job. Right. That is never going to happen.

But it seems to me, and once again, can't say how this would turn out, and not a lawyer, and I don't think a lawyer would know for sure, is that they should just go make an attempt to purchase again. And then if there's a subsequent denial, then they're in a position to immediately, I mean, You can absolutely challenge a denial in court. I'm just hoping that people are not going to have to spend thousands and thousands of dollars to get something that already belongs to them. Exactly.

Exactly. All right. Well, keep us in the room on this. I like to say that a lot with people like you that are deeply involved in such things. So guardedly optimistic that we're seeing some light for people who did all the right things, follow the law, and yet we're screwed over in the firearms purchasing situation anyway. And this is... Yeah.

I mean, remember, it's still Oregon State Police Fix Unit. They're not cops. They're civilians. They answer to Kotech. They're a nightmare. You know, so I am up, you know, cautiously pessimistic about this. But, you know, for years, the state police have been a real impediment to people trying to exercise their rights. And they've really had, I mean, at one time, they basically just stopped answering the phone.

They put as many roadblocks in the path that people. trying to get their rights restored as possible. It's like dealing, you know, you're probably old enough to remember the old phone company when it was a monopoly, and it was like, we don't care, we don't have to. Yep. And, but it does appear that this is on the road to being fixed, and with any luck, you know, 10 years from now, when the state police finally get the message, people will have one less impediment to their rights, assuming they're not hammered by measure 114. All right. My final question, question on this one is that, why we had the OSP doing it because there's a federal NIC system that is very easy, and you just,

you know, you just use that. Because many years ago, the state police went to the legislature and demanded the right to do this. And since then, they've done nothing but complain about having to do it and that they don't make enough money. And some years ago, I actually sat in a meeting with the head of the state police and Senator Kim Thatcher where I said to them, where they were complaining about this responsibility. And I said, you asked for this. now why don't we reverse it why don't you join me and asking the legislature to change it to turn this this job back over to the feds we're not only to have fewer problems but they don't charge

anything and the response from the state police was no way dude oh not charge come on that money goes in us right okay yeah all right and and of course as long as the osp is doing it there needs to be more tax well purrs and tax fattened employees brought into to work this. Well, and if they even do it, because you have to know it during COVID, when all employees went home, they weren't doing anything. And the state, the head of the state police said, well, we equipped them all with cell phones. And then, this was in a hearing in the legislature, and then it had to mention that the cell phones

really didn't connect to anything. So this system was utterly useless. Oregon, you know, every time I talk to you, it's an interesting conversation about about why we just need a higher-quality class of elite running things, okay? That's the way I'm looking at it. Well, look, what we're really good at, according to the state bureaucracy is we're really, really good at signing people up for SNAP benefits. We have one of the highest percentages of people on food stamps of anyone in the country. That's a success one.

My favorite talk from Salem this week was with – was with – state rep Yonker, state rep Yonker talking to me about the leader or the person who's in charge of the Oregon Department of Education who was talking in a meeting this week and saying that her number one goal. Now remember, we now know, yes. Of course. Yes. Yeah, a diverse workforce. No, it's not because the kids are reading at a 50th in the nation in fourth grade and then they can't add and subtract and use and have math skills, nothing like that. No, the problem is that there aren't enough brown people, you know, working? Well, we are number one in one thing.

What's that? That's drug-affected births. Okay. Oh, okay. I thought you were going to say fodder for talk radio hosts, but anyway, thank you, my friend. We'll have you back. All right. Take care. Thank you, Bill. Take care. Kevin Starrett, Oregon Firearms Federation, Oregonfirearms.org. 7705-633. It is Conspiracy Theory Thursday, and that means it's open phone time here. Have had it. We've had a lot of interesting theories going on this morning. Maybe you want to weigh in on them, huh?

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Talk Radio Gold. Let me go to Vicki, Vicki Westbrook, Jackson County Republican Party. Vicki, I am so frustrated. I go to no tax org.org. There is nothing from Jackson County, all met for these tax petition signups. And it's like, who's running that show over there? why is that you know um you know jody flex doing a great job i think she's she's like me and gary down here in jackson county yeah i know gary's working his tail off on this one but why is there

nothing on the site there now i know you have it on the uh j c o r dot gop site and that's fine that's good and i and on facebook i post it everywhere on facebook so um i don't know i we have a spreadsheet i put it in there i i will tell you i don't have time to take my spreadsheet and put it in her order, which is different than mine, but I put it on the spreadsheet that they gave us. Okay. So the information can get out there. All right. People can go to my Facebook page. It's V-I-C-K-I-E, Phillips, Westbrooks. My Facebook page, I'm public, and I'm posting every day and updating Jackson County. All right. Is there anything going on today that you're aware of? Yes. There are a lot of places that are open. I try to steer people to the

Jackson County Republican Party office today because we have two other petitions besides the gas or transportation petition, whichever one you call it by. We have the end vote by mail, which everybody wants to get rid of. And then we have the vote before tolls petition, which Tina wants to put toll booths on some of our roads and charges to drive on them. Okay. So nobody else really has those. We have those.

We're inside. I've got lots of volunteers. They're short time for waiting. So 10 to 4, you're open. That's at 112 north front. It's like Manzanita and Highway 99, right? Yes. Did you get a sign back up there? I know that the banner got blown down. It's a new office for you all. It did. We're working really hard on that. We've got sandwich boards out in the divider of the road. Yeah. And then right on the sidewalk. So we do have sandwich boards. So people look for those. Maybe just go and get a big blow-up elephant, okay? Just put it out there and say, here, you know, with an arrow, all right?

I know. All right, so it's not, so it's not you. You're trying to submit it over there, so it's the no-tax Oregon clowns that aren't doing it or getting it in there, right? You know, I just don't, they're doing, I'm sure she's overwhelmed. I'm sure she's got more work than she can possibly do. We all are that are working on it. All right, all right. I know the big push, super big push is going to be Saturday, right?

That's going to be a big one. Saturday. All right. Vicki, go to j-c-o-r.g-O-P. Josephine County seems to be plugged in on that site for whatever reason. But, yeah, everyone's... All the Republican parties are involved in this one in both of their sites. All right.

Bicky, thank you for the call. And let me head over to David. David, you want to the way in on stuff we've been talking about, too. Go ahead. Conspiracy Theory Thursday. Go ahead. Yeah, Bill. It's a preconceived outcome thing.

This evening from 5 to 7 at the Ashland branch of the Jackson County Library Services in Ashland in the Greshel room, which is downstairs in their basement, they're going to have what they call a listening session, but it's really to feel out what they want to do, and people really need to know about this. the Jackson County Library Services is coming back for it at us again. For what? They want to build new libraries, remodel existing libraries, and even completely replace some of the new libraries that we just got built. What are they afraid that someone may have some money left in this town?

Well, it kind of tags onto what Diane's doing. They want to have, like in Central Point, where the foundation, the first floor is the library, and the second front. floor and the roof is the annex for the central point city hall. They want to get out of that and build a completely stand alone on their own land out where they have more control and they can utilize the facility, as we've seen in the past where it's just a bum tell and stuff. And so I really need people to show up the camp from five to seven at the Gresham room in the Ashland Brants of the Jackson County Library Services, their website is JCLS.org

slash strategic plan. So it's strategic planning. So they're sharpening their knives and they're getting ready for a feast again. All right. Appreciate the take. I know there's a lot of meetings going on tonight. I know City of Medford is doing its Main Street redesign. And I believe that's out in West Medford.

but I'm going to have to get the details on that. We have Diana Anderson, who is working tonight at the Central Point Library, but she's actually accomplishing something with the, you know, the gangrene and trying to stop this technocracy that we've been talking about this morning. So there's a lot of places to go tonight, all right? Appreciate the call, David. 7705-633, and what do we got going on here? You must have it.

Lucretia, take it away. Give me a good cogent take this morning on the issues that bind us, huh? Well, it's just that, yes, so it's just that Patrick Wood isn't some conspiracy theorists. I mean, it's so obvious this is the direction we're going. You look back at, you know, the Western Heritage, something I've called up and talked about before, the very conservative group saying that what's happening is they definitely have plans to shut down all our dams. Yeah, and shutting down, and it's about collapsing the current economic system in order to bring in the different order, right? Right, Club of Roman searching for a new enemy to United us.

We came up with the idea of pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine, and the like would fit the bill. Then you have Paul Eric that worked with John Holdren who said we're going into an ice age in 1970 because of all the particulates in there. I mean, while they're spraying the particulates in there, and it's dimming the sun and we're getting the crop production. And now we have Elon Musk talking about while we need satellites that are controlled by AI to control the amount of sunlight here. What could go wrong? Right. But let me just get to the diet, they're going to put it on, but I just want to say Pollard, that a massive campaign must be launched to de-developed the United States, you know, to bring in line with realities of the economy.

Now, but wait a minute, I thought we voted for making America. Erica, great again. I know. And we're strong, too, said we've got to get us off all that high meat, use of fossil fuels, appliances, air conditioning, suburban housing. Why do I get this impression that the elite of the tech native, they end up getting their way here, are not going to be going with a meat-free diet and living in a 400-square-foot habitrail?

The meat you're going to eat is bug. A girl that looked up the diet, really amazing. women with the research, she said the diet is going to be 10% of your diet is only going to be any fruits or vegetables. You're going to have just seed oil, no butter, which we know is vital. Well, that's a great way to then reduce the population, the blessed population. Okay. Lucretia, good take. Thank you for that. Let me go to next. Gino, you're next on conspiracy theory Thursday. Fire away. A lot of riff here. First of all, it's not a conspiracy theory. It's a strategy. And the strategy was laid out in the book of Revelation. It's further exemplified by Marx's

19 when Marx was 19 years old. He wrote a poem in which he pledged to Satan that he would destroy all creation. And his theory of Marxism slash communism slash socialism slash collectivism is all based on forced. You will do as you are. You will do as you're told. Yeah. Yeah. So what we deal with in this society is what a friend of mine calls, irony deficiency. We can't see it. Another thing that happens is people don't believe it. When I tell someone that there's a strategy to destroy them and bring them down to this level, they go, oh, no, do you know, that can't be true. And my friend calls that to not see menace, they don't see it. They don't see it. They don't see it. Okay, I think I'm done there. Denial, not seeing menace. It's not a theory. It's a strategy.

Got it. Good call, Gino. Appreciate it. If you're on hold, I will get to you in just a moment as we continue because it is wide open for Conspiracy Theory Thursday call. Fall is a great time of year. 8.55. Two or three minutes left in Conspiracy Theory Thursday conversation. And let me go to Cliff. Cliff, you were talking about another IP initiative petition sign up place. You saw it in Central Point, right? Correct. It's on East Pine, close to the corner of Hamrick and East Pine, which is close to... Is that close to Costco, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. It's where you turn to go to Costco if you're coming off the freeway. Okay. All right. Now, there's no guarantee that that tent's going to be there today, but you saw it there yesterday, right? Out there, yes, Dave, the little pop-up tent, card table.

They had to sign out on East Pine, sign up for the no-gas tax. Now, the point be, I just want to make sure I understand that this is for today, the huge push. And like I said, the huge push in this break is in this deal, rather, is for Saturday. And that's when they're doing most of it. You can go to j-c-o-r.g-gop, and you will see probably about 25 different places that are doing this. The concentration is going to be on Saturday. We're talking about the people that are looking to sign up right now, okay? Right, yeah.

If you don't want to, you know, if you don't want to get in a line on Saturday, then by all means, go to the Republican Party headquarters in Central Point, Mazzanita 99. They call it Front Street now. Or if you're driving on East Pine, take a look on the south side of the street. There's a big empty lot there. All right. And with a pop-up tent was at.

All right, very good. Hey, thanks for the tip on that one. Logan, tonight, City Medford, having their meeting on Main Street. Can you comment outside of this meeting? Because I know a town, normally it's like, you know, so what, if you have a meeting. But give me the details, please. Well, they are asking for our input specifically. So they want the public to arrive, and, you know, they're going to ask for public input on what they want to do downtown.

530 to 7 at the Jackson County Library. Okay. 530 to 7. Medford. 530 to 7.30 at that one. Okay. Now, is Main Street the only thing on the agenda? Well, for the most part, yes.

But at the same point, if we can show up and get them to listen to us about Main Street, you know, people want to shine up with, show up with no Creekside signs or things like that. We think we just got to get their ear for the most part. All right. Show up. People want to say no to this Creekside and complain about this Main Street. We'll show up and complain to their faces. Okay, hang on, and, well, don't hang on, but give me a report, okay?

We'll talk a little later. Sounds good, Bill. All right. 8.58 and change, I'm going to try to squeeze in one more conspiracy theory call. Hopefully it's worth me taking the effort. Hi, good morning. Who's this? This is Jane. Go ahead.

What are you thinking? You're going to wrap up conspiracy theory Thursday today. Okay. You're going to tie it with a bow. Okay. You're going to tie a bow on it. Give me your take. Okay.

Patrick was talking about how they're taken over. Isn't that the reason they're trying to force everyone to use computers instead of phones and the Internet? So you're thinking that maybe you'd be safer then, or the people who will inherit the Earth or the non-computer connected? Is that what you're thinking? I'm thinking that the people that aren't hooked on the computers or the Internet but I stand a better chance of fighting against the takeover.

Yeah. So if you're going to fight the machines, don't use the machine is what you're claiming that. Yeah, you use machines. You've got a good chance of being marked out and you're in trouble. Well, on that much, you could be right, all right, right? Gene, thank you for the call. You wrap it up. Nice little pretty beau.

We'll talk to you tomorrow. Okay, 9 o'clock, Markle, Van Camp, and Robbins. They're all coming up in seconds.