Bill Meyer Show Podcast - Sponsored by Clouser Drilling www.ClouserDrilling.com - 11-21-25_FRIDAY_ 7AM

Episode Date: November 21, 2025

11-21-25_FRIDAY_ 7AM

The Bill Meyer Show podcast is sponsored by Klauser Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausordrilling.com. Here's Bill Meyer. This ought to be interesting now about in Congress right now. They're having a House debate on the floor about putting an anti-socialism measure out there. And they don't want to necessarily define what. This is about Mom Donnie coming to see President Trump today.

but the reason they don't want to define socialism is that they said, well, you know, that programs like Social Security and Medicare and SNAP benefits and food stamps would be defined as socialism. Yeah. I've been telling you this for years. Okay. I guess. All right.

All right. We're going to go back to the hunting and the outdoors for right now. There's a lot of crazy stuff going on here. Mr. Outdoors joins me. Greg Roberts from rogueweather.com. Outdoor report sponsored by Oregon Truck and Auto Authority on their way drive in Medford. Don't ever call it socialism. It's a benefit, Greg. That's all you have to do. It's all we have to do. You know, when it's the government doing that, and it is, and the debate,

all I can think about is Denholm Elliott in trading places with Dan Aykroyd and Eddie Murphy, and they're on the train, and he's playing a priest, and he says one of the most epically funny lines ever. is a fine thing. Taken in moderation. Take it in moderation. Yeah. There we go. Chargolism is a fine thing.

Take it in moderation. And, of course, when we're dealing with government people, truth is something which is great, once again, in moderation, right? You always have to. Pretty much, I mean, between that, and then what I was hearing, you know, Sean railing about in his minute and what those Democrats did,

you know, let's think about it this way. if Trump was truly what all the protests said he was, a king and a tyrant, I think a king and a tyrant would have acted pretty quickly and totally in the law to extract the immediate justice of seditious treason. Because what they did is exactly that. I disagree with you. I disagree with you on that. I really do.

Okay. What, by the way, is the punishment for seditious treason? Well, it's death, especially committed by somebody in the military or in the government. Yeah, it is death. It is death. So he's telling the truth about it. I'm not questioning that. My issue, though, is that it is already built into military law, that you are, in fact, you are required to disobey an unlawful order.

Exactly right. That is true. And they go through it, period. periodically over and over again your whole time in the military, and if you're being deployed for a military action, it is definitely reviewed again. So what are they talking about? Well, they say they're vague, but in reality, they're not. They're stating the case that every single thing Donald Trump says, every order he gives is illegal. That's actually what they're trying to say. Well, but they aren't saying, but they aren't, but they aren't saying that, though.

They aren't saying that. Okay? Yeah, you're right. They're trying, they may be trying to allude to that, but it's like, hey, and frankly, there is a lot, a lot of freedom. The, what do they call it, there's a debate clause or whatever it is in the, in the rules and the Constitution pretty much, they can talk about whatever they want to, even if we don't necessarily like it. And I wouldn't like any Republicans being told to shut up about something by a Democratic president either. So these are sort of the things we have to tolerate. But I had a feeling what they were alluding to had to do with the bombings, which I do question.

I do have questions about that because if we have narco-terrorists, stop a few of the boats, show everybody what it is, and I think everybody would shut up, and then we wouldn't care, okay? Yeah. Yeah, and okay, granted, there's probably some blurring of lines there doing what they're doing with the boats. but on the other hand, they're not messing around, and this is going to be done in a very different kind of way. That said, once again, Tom Clancy winds up being a profit, because things he talked about over 40 years ago that got turned into a movie, clear and present danger, we're watching it play out in real time right now. Yeah, we'll certainly see about that.

hopefully he doesn't end that way. All right. Now, Greg, of course, is Mr. Outdoors at rogueweather.com. It's Friday. We've got to let it go of a little bit of this stuff, a little distress, get in the outdoors, talk about some of the things. Anything to do this weekend? You got to see?

This weekend, not so much. Although I will say right now, obviously, when we're seeing the thin layer of fog that we have here in Medford may have in Grants Pass as well, that pretty typically means you're not going to be seeing any kind of significant stormy weather and we are not. The real question that we're still efforting, I love that word, efforting as forecasters across the board, regardless of where you are, is where exactly are we looking to see storm

impact arriving because it's kind of starting to look more and more like pre- Thanksgiving travel, meaning Tuesday, Wednesday specifically, probably not going to be an issue. Going back home looks like it could be a major issue. It looks like there is going to be a series of storms hitting us that right now the timing would have the start of it be next Friday, Black Friday, and then going on through about the 3rd of December, which is the following Wednesday, it does definitely appear we're going to be seeing another round of storms coming in. I mean, still also trying to figure out exactly how impactful that's going to be going to be looking at some new stuff today from NOAA prediction and National Weather Service prediction, because sometimes, you know,

they actually will say two different things, even though they're pretty much right down the hall from each other, if you will. Okay. So this weekend, that was going to be pretty calm, right? Calm weekend. All right. Not much to worry about then. Any hunting season in force right now? Yeah, there still is. I mean, obviously we're winding them down. You've got the late archery season going on out in the Rogue and the Evans Creek units. And pretty typically, it's this hunt for archers where you see some incredible bucks get taken that managed to get through the rifle seasons, but the rut did kick

on there at the tail end of the rifle season, and that activity is still going on for the deer, although I did see a couple of posts in the Hunting Oregon group yesterday, where guys were stating they think that most of the

rut activity right now is happening at night, and that probably shouldn't surprise anybody, so archers are definitely going to be wanting to see the storms returning, the muzzleloader hunting seasons for both deer and elk out in the cascades, it will be for deer, and then here in the rogue unit, which is where I was trying to get to. Rogue unit, muzzle loader season will start tomorrow and then go

through Black Friday. Yeah, the muzzleloader hunters definitely also want to be seeing weather because it will definitely increase their chances for success with more active animals. So we still have that, and we definitely still have the fall western bear season going on, which goes on through December 31st, and there are just so many bears out there on the landscape. It isn't even funny, and with the lack of snow up in the high country, bears are still moving around even at the 6,000-foot elevation points and even higher where you find them like Crater Lake National Park or up on Mount Ashland. But, yeah, and black bears also are not hibernators, they're nappers.

And so when things improve, the sun is out, bears will be active. And down here on the valley floor, the only bears that ever go to a den are females who are going to give birth. Otherwise, they're up and active on the valley floor year-round. Yeah, I know my sister-in-law lives out in the Roos area off the Applegate, and lots of bears, lots of bears, all the time. I would say Applegate probably has more bears per square mile than just about any other spot in Oregon. From a bear's point of view, Applegate River drainage, the main Applegate, Little Applegate. Those are both just pretty much perfect places for bears. It's got

everything they love in abundance, and therefore we get bears in abundance. Okay, fair enough. Now, Van, where is the snow level right now and going to be over the next few days? Is it just going to be up at the Crater Lake kind of level or what? Yeah, if it was going to be snowing easily above 5,000 feet, maybe even closer to 6, that is pretty much. where it looks like it stays until we get to Wednesday, Thursday next week. Of course, Thursday Thanksgiving. And then we'll see where things look. Looking at the data that NOAA climatology was predicting about possibility of heavy snow event, they have a slight risk for the cascades from the Canadian border all the way south into Northern California to Highway 299, and then south of

299, the Sierra, and then they also include the mountains in northwestern California, so Coast Range, Marble, Salmon, Trinities, all of that by what they had produced yesterday. Slight risk for heavy snow, again, starting on Thanksgiving and going through Wednesday, December 3rd, and looking at how they drew that map, looks like they expect snow levels are probably going to be somewhere in that 3,000 to 4,000 foot range. Okay, something to watch for the travel course. I never travel on holidays, though. Never, ever, ever.

It's always here. You know, I have in the past, and then, you know, especially when I got into working at Mount Bachelor and doing the ski racing thing, a lot of winter. our time travel, but none of it was for the holidays. Yeah, I don't mind to travel, but I never get on the road. I never go camping when everybody else is trying to do the same thing. I try to avoid that kind of thing. All right.

Hey, Mr. Outdoors, Scott from Eagle Point, you know, he's one of your super fans here. Yes. Scott, you're here. You had a question or comment on what's going on in the outdoor. Go ahead. Yes, hey, Bill. Hey, Greg. Hey, I've got some experiences up on.

Red Blanket Road there with White Owl. Just kind of sitting like you do. Greg, you know, nice and quiet, doing you know, relative hominoid research and totally got Barnstorm one

sunny day. Any comments on that area and the, you know, wildlife conservation areas up there? Yeah, what you're talking about up there, Red Blanket Road, especially. very well known. It seems like everybody in prospect knows what goes on out there and what he's

talking about, Bigfoot activity. And that particular family group, they're what I call grumpy. They will behave in a very hostile fashion towards humans. So I much prefer my more gentle, hippie type family group that I interact with. That's how you actually describe the bigfoot's? Grumpy and hippie, okay. Because they definitely, the one thing that is true, they have, for lack of a better way to put it, they do have their own personalities, they have their own family vibe, if you will.

And like I said, mine are really easygoing, even the people who stumble into them by accident, just never report anything overtly hostile happening to them. That group that is on Red Blanket Road, though, up there in prospect, they also roam through Union Creek. They get through the west side of Crater Lake National Park. There'll be encounters with them well up Highway 230. They, yeah, they definitely do not like people, and they will do everything they can to drive people out of their territory where they happen to be at. Yeah, they don't want to share it with you at all. All right, very good.

Hey, Scott, appreciate the call. And we'll continue this here in just a moment. Outdoor report sponsored by Oregon Truck and Auto Authority on Airway Drive and Method. Greg, why don't we switch it now to the next phase of, I guess, the Department of Government Efficiency, which is to go out and spend a billion and a half to shoot the barrails. You want to go in that direction here just a moment? Yeah, absolutely, because of all the stupid things I've ever seen our government do. This is one of the stupidest, and it just infuriates me why they're doing it.

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731. We're continuing the Outdoor Report, this time unofficially, but we're going into the amazing program announced recently about shooting barred owls. It's going to be about a billion and a half dollars spent. I don't know if that's a billion and a half a year, Greg, or what is it? Do you know the specifics on that? Go ahead. I think what they did, it wasn't in a year, it was to fund efforts, but they didn't really specify a time frame because, you know, part and parcel to that is the other sickening part of it, and that's how I refer to this as sickening, that they want to eliminate a half a million bardelles out here in the Western United States. This is a total payback scheme, if you will, a protection scheme for the spotted owl, which has been selected by Mother Nature to be taken out by a more superior owl.

Well, yeah, that's kind of what I was getting at is that we are going to take taxpayer money and shoot the winners so that the losers make it. I don't quite get it because, and you know, and the spotted out, of course, was used as the stalking horse to absolutely decimate and destroy the Southern Oregon economy when it came to timber. That's what it was used for. Southern Oregon, Northern California, Washington, all up and down the West Coast. Is there anything in the Endangered Species Act that says that natural predation from a superior

species is to... Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. And here's the thing. The Bard Al is the second most widely distributed. bird, an owl, that is, in the Americas, only the barn owl has a bigger range. If you have forests of any type, whether they're the hardwood forest back east or the more coniferous

forest out here, barred owls are going to take up residents. They have been naturally expanding their range. I am seeing the word invasive used to describe the bard owls. Now, let me ask you, though, is the bard owl an invasive species from overseas? Absolutely not, because if you're going to use that moniker on the barred owls, you probably should drop it on the Canadian geese that we now have an abundance in the Rogue Valley. You should drop it on crows, which were virtually unseen in Oregon, before the late 1970s, and now we have crows in every part of the state. crows came in naturally the exact same way the barred owl is the only thing that's different here

the barred owl wound up killing off the spotted owl remember back in the timber wars there were all these jokes about spotted owl errone and all of this kind of stuff sure do spotted owls taste good well if you're a bard owl yes they do so that that's what happens they kill them and eat them really yep oh yeah okay And I first got wind of this because I was out big footing with a group one night. I was taking them through my best encounter zone at that point. We're walking down this road where you never run into anybody in the middle of the night, and all of a sudden we see headlights coming at us.

And I think that's extremely odd. I've never run into anybody back here at this time of the night, which was about 1 o'clock in the morning, pickup comes up, and all of a sudden this guy comes to a stop and he gets out of his truck because, well, he's pretty shocked to see six people strolling along this Forest Service road. Yeah, you just don't see people out there normally. We were doing. Yeah, we get that. Yeah, don't normally see much people. Well, I told him what we were doing, and then he told me what he was doing.

He was a biologist, and I think it was with. U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, and he was doing an owl survey. And I told him what was very true at that point about that spot. I go, you couldn't come to a better spot. We have 10 different species of owls very active in here. And the first thing he wanted to know is, does that include barred owls? And I said, oh, yeah, that includes barred owls. We've got barred owls by the dozens in here. Well, then we start talking, and then he said, we're going to do a pilot program to see if eliminating the number of barred owls helps the spotted owls. Okay. Now...

And they came back into this spot, and I'm not going to give it up exactly by name, because it still is a Bigfoot encounter zone for me. It's just not as good as it once was because of other activities that took place up there. But I knew when they came and they started killing the barred owls because all the owls knew was we've got people out here killing us. All the owls left. It turned into a dead zone. Oh, that's really something. So once they started killing them, they knew. And they, okay, all right, well, they're not stupid animals. We know that. took off. Now, my thing is, is there anything unique about the spotted owl that makes them a necessary ingredient to the forest ecosystem? Is there something that is so special about

the spotted owl that we should be really upset that barred owls are killing them? Or is this just a neighborhood squabble, so to speak, in nature? I'm going to tell you no, and then I'm going to prove it. Okay. And the proof, everything they have done, quote-unquote, fighting fire here in Jackson and Josephine counties since 2000, because in their process of, quote-unquote, fighting fire, what they actually did was completely destroy hundreds of thousands of acres, a prime spotted owl habitat, completely destroyed it. How was that? How was that? Because we burn out. We go big box. We let these fires take off and burn. Well, I know that's something that Jackson County has really tamped down, though,

with their... Well, okay, but damage is done. Too late now, that barn has completely burned to the ground, almost literally. Now, you look at the sage grouse. The sage grouse from BLM gets its own air tankers, gets its own engines, gets its own ground crews. We had a fire happening. in Cave Junction, threatening homes, and ODF was begging for the air tankers, single-engine air tankers sitting on the ground in Lakeview, to come help in Cave Junction, because they had the little Insta, Port-a-Mix retardant tank system set up there at the Cave Junction Airport, and BLM refused to release the aircraft because they were needed for protection of significant sage grouse habitat.

You never... Hold on. We are sacrificing potentially human habitat for sage grouse habitat. Are you serious about this? Serious. As a heart attack. Boy, you know, I don't even know how you react to something like that. Like, who needs fired, I guess, is what I would be asking.

No, no. It's the insanity that overran all, basically, if it's a federal fire, fighting agency, the insanity that overran them. That's what you get. Okay, well, we have that with sage grouse, but nobody does that with spotted owls. And then the other thing they don't do with the sage grouse is go and burn hundreds of thousands of acres because we're going to go big box and we're going to do this. And then they torch off thousands upon thousands of acres more of prime spotted owl habitat,

marble, gearlet, habitat, it was all complete BS. So it's our interference, essentially, is what you're saying, which is causing so many of the problems. We were told about the spotted owl in the effort to save them. Well, mankind can't interfere with Mother Nature. We've got to shut down all these evil loggers. No, just so in the future, we can burn all that habitat up instead of logging it, And a naturally more superior bird owl will arrive.

That's all the barred owl did. I hear all this talk now about they're invasive, and they almost make it sound like people went and collected barred owls and put them in. You used them for fishing bait, and some got out, right? You're like the two each of them. Yeah, that definitely is not true. The barred owl just did what the barred owl does. So this whole program now, to eliminate 500,000 of them, at the price tag you're quoting,

and I just spaced it because now I'm all worked up over there. Well, I saw it was like $1.5 billion overall has been allocated. As our dear friend, Garth Harrington, would say, that is complete bovinous excritamus. Uh-huh. Yeah. All right. Let's move on here. I had Michael write me during the break.

He's a Bigfoot question for you. He says, can you ask Mr. Outdoors if Bigfoot keep warm by making fires? Thank you. And thank you, Mr. Outdoors, and he says, happy Friday. Yeah, thanks, Michael. Same to you. And no, negative. They do not use fire.

In fact, their reaction to fire is pretty much the same as everything on the landscape, absolute avoidance of it, because they know it's a threat to them. They also know it's going to bring increased human activity. and humans like to do things like drop water and retardant out of the sky and run bulldozers knocking over trees and ripping out brush. So, yeah, their whole thing on fire is just avoidance. You know, very few things naturally in nature are going to seek out fires as any kind of an element for warmth.

And plus, they know far more about how to be able to stay warm effectively on the landscape than we, quote-unquote, superior intellect humans ever will. Well, you know, the lack of natural hair and fur like a Bigfoot would be a problem for us, okay? Let me grab a call here for you. We'll take a couple before we send you off here to your holiday weekend. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome.

Hey, there, Greg and Bill, this is Todd. I know this won't surprise either of you. 20 years ago, I was a ranger at Big Basin Redwood State Park in the Santa Cruz Mountain. But one day, we got a call of a guy wandering around with a suppressed rifle. So, of course, we corner the guy, not in uniform or any kind of insignific. And he identified himself as a U.S. Department of Agriculture guy that he was in there shooting ravens to protect the marbled merlet. And we told them, well, first, you better talk to us before you get put at gunpoint when you start wandering around our park with suppressed. rifles. Yeah. Yeah, the first thing to tip me off, you know, the agencies will hide a lot of what

they're doing from the public, especially if they think they're going to get a lot of backlash, but what they don't do, total non-communication to other agencies. And in this case, specifically with the park, to say, hey, we're going to have a guy on the ground, and his mission is to take out Ravens, there would have been communication with you. So, yeah, finding this guy, and then he had no identification. He had nothing stating he was with the agency he claimed to be with. That doesn't surprise me, you know, crackpots are going to do what crack pots are going to do. But, yeah, that was a pretty well-fleshed-out scheme.

No doubt about that. All right. Hey, appreciate the call. Let me grab another one here. And I just lost the call. I hit the wrong button. Call or get back in hold of me, okay? 7705-633.

Okay, well, actually, maybe we'll just take that one. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome. Hello. Hi, Bill. Hey, Greg. Hey, hey, you know, you just, you know, Scott, you know, we can't have multiple calls on these segments, okay?

I'm sorry, buddy. Okay. Oh, it's the size of the L. The size of the Al, Greg. Okay. All right. Yeah. I just want to make sure, Pete, we don't want to get to the point where people call back two, three times on a, on a segment, okay?

We don't want to do it. You know, one other thing, if we're kind of waiting to see if that other caller gets, back in. That may have been Scott, though. You and I've been talking about all morning off the air. What's that? Oh. My daughter is on Thanksgiving vacation officially right now. When did Thanksgiving vacation start the week before Thanksgiving? I have no idea. I mean, for crying out loud, just last week at the beginning of the week, there were school districts in this valley that had both Monday and Tuesday off, and my daughter had both Monday and Tuesday off. which was, you know, kind of mind-blowing to me.

But this whole thing about the whole week of Thanksgiving off for school, what I remember about Thanksgiving vacation, and I know you experienced. Hey, it's the same way with me. You got off for Thanksgiving vacation Wednesday, after school Wednesday, the day before Thanksgiving. That was it. Actually, in our case out here, it was always noon on Wednesday. Yeah, you're right. It was a short day on Wednesday, but that was it.

Yeah. And that was it. And you got Thanksgiving Day itself, and you got Black Friday. And that's why I had always said, whoever it was that developed the Black Friday sales that would make perfectly logical people otherwise go stand in line at 2 o'clock in the morning for a deal, totally ruined the best sleeping day of the year. Because when I was growing up, that day after Thanksgiving, you stayed up all night with the family, you were playing games, you overdosed on Turkey, and then you you had your trip to fan coma that would last until, you know, 10, 11 o'clock in the morning on Friday, and it was a nice, slow, easy wake up, and it was a great day, and it was a wonderful day, and then Black Friday came along and blew that thing clear out of the water. Oh, well, times change, I suppose. Now, Black, now, I don't think Black Friday is as heavily attended as it wants. I enjoy Black Friday. I like to get up because I tend to be an early riser normally because of my job thing.

And so I'll get up there, and I don't normally buy a whole lot, although I did get a nice ladder last year during a Black Friday. And I love my ladder. Don't get me wrong. It's one of those nice foldable kind of ladders that they had there. I think it was a Home Depot special or something. But whatever it is, I don't see nearly the traffic out on Black Friday that there once did. Well, and that's all Internet. Yeah.

Because now on the Internet, Black Friday deals can appear at any time of the year. And people are now more routinely also shopping for Christmas presents throughout the year. Yeah, exactly. Becky has one more question, and then we'll cut you loose here, Mr. Outdoors. And an owl question, where are the environmentalists? Why aren't they screaming their heads off for killing the bar downs? It's not the environmentalist in this case because the whole spotted owl thing just literally is blowing up in their face. the animal rights groups where's the animal rights groups where's the humane society of the

USA in short where's Wayne Pothel this is the kind of thing they're supposed to be against this is the wanton slaughter of a bird who did nothing wrong just being a bird acting naturally now now the thing is though wouldn't the birds though wouldn't these birds still be doing what these birds would be doing and that is keeping down uh you know keeping down the rats and rodents and things like that? Well, yeah, I mean, that's part of what they do, but, you know, I mean, honestly, if we could just teach the wolves to eat wild turkeys and mice and rats and nothing else, they would be hugely beneficial because in spite of the sheer volume and numbers of owls we have on the landscape, they're not all rat and mice killers. In fact, I would probably guess the majority of our owls that we have flying around in the skies or, you know, per square mile probably exist more on insects or other smaller birds than they do on rats and mice.

Very interesting. Ows eat an amazing diversity of things. All right. Appreciate the call. Hey, we'll see you Wednesday of next week, okay? Yeah, I was just like, oh yeah, and speaking of which, because next week, a week from today and a week from tomorrow are the final two free fishing days of the year in Oregon, so we're certainly going to get into that. All right. Thanks, Mr. Outdoor. See you then. Take care. You got it, Bill.

11 before 8. Kind of an extended outdoor report. But now we're back into your calls. It's open phones. Find your phone Friday. 7705-633. We can kick it all around next. And know that this holiday season, taking a moment to say thanks, is priceless. Happy holidays from the Markey Broadcasting Family, because local and family matters. You're hearing the Bill Myers Show on 1063 KMED. Now Bill wants to hear from you. 541-770-5633. That's 770 KMED. 751, 7705-633.

We can talk about the outdoors if you want anything actually on your mind this morning, but I was raising the issues of Democrats out there talking about, hey, you can disobey unlawful orders. And I noticed that Republicans are getting really upset about this. I'm not one of them because, to me, I think that military people are implored. In fact, it's pretty well known. and it's out there in the uniform military code of justice. I don't know if I got the actual name of it, you know, correct in there, but unlawful orders, it's okay.

In fact, you have a duty to disobey them. Now, maybe they are trying to allude that President Trump is doing some illegal orders. Well, so, so what? If they're eluding, so what? Maybe it's just a good idea to remind that everybody should be paying attention. and if something is illegal, you don't do it, and you don't have to follow the order. And maybe we would have a government with fewer yes men and yes women. I don't know.

I really do see both sides of this thing. And as an example, I've said before, I don't like the idea of blowing the drug boats out, not because I want drugs coming in here, but because there's no proof of it. And just because we know doesn't mean it is. Because then all it can be is that, hey, we know that. was a CIA spy boat over here, and then China goes, boom, blows it out of the water. And then in international waters, and we're just supposed to say, oh, okay, is that all the is to it?

Have the Coast Guard, grab a couple of them, sees him, put him out there, open it up, and show everybody what's going on there. And then I think most of the controversy would go away. But the fact that we just blow it out first and don't attempt to stop anything. And I know, I think it was Elaine, it writes me, and let's see, Elaine who wrote me, let me see if I can find that. Yeah, so the Coast Guard chases narco boats, and if they catch the crooks, they arrest them, charge them, go to court, and the judge lets them go. There wouldn't be a word said by the media and the drugs keep flowing. Very effective.

Okay. You know, Elaine, in other words, because it's a lot easier and quicker just to blow things up, we do. That's not supposed to be our system. What we choose to do to others could be then used against us. It's a precedent, that sort of thing. It's a, well, you know, you just made it clear that international law, international waters no matter, no longer matter. In fact, I've even said no problem, okay, they're speeding in here with drugs and they're within our territorial waters. You blow them out, fine.

But we're not doing that. We're doing it in international waters, okay? sometimes I swear that because it's Trump we turn our brains off to some of this stuff and I don't want to do that let me go to Gary Gary you want to talk about the owls here real quick go right ahead morning good morning Bill yes I have a very large piece of property with mature trees and I had two family of two family as owls that would communicate at night from the two different spots where they nested. And I would find their upchuck.

Yeah, it's like those pellets, right? The pellets that come out, right? Yeah, they're about the size of your finger, and they'll eat the mice or rat, and then they'll upchuck the hair and the bone. And so I can identify what they've been eating. What do they eat in your neighborhood? mostly it looked like the skull of mice for the most part it makes sense sure and uh anyway they

were really beautiful and uh one comment that uh that was made earlier about uh ravens uh one day i was out, and these two ravens attack one of my owl, and that really tick me off because I love my owl. You know something, Gary, the ravens or those blackbirds, are some of the nastiest creatures, and I don't know if there's anything that you can legally do about them, but I look at them as truly invasive species, and they are invasive when it comes to the people. of the neighborhoods. Nasty, nasty birds. And I can't say enough bad things about them. Yeah, these two ravens, they attacked them out in flight and dropped them to the ground, and then each one grabbed a wing, and then they flew off with him.

Oh, boy. But yeah, and from that on, I was shooting ravens. I don't care what the law is. Yeah, now, I don't know, are they considered invasance? Is it something that you're allowed? Now, you can't do it in the neighborhood, like within the city limits of where I live. You can't do anything like that. No, no, I'm out in the country. Yeah, all right, well, good for you.

Hey, thanks for sharing the story on the Ows thing, all right. 770K&D, and it's a little open phone time here. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Hello? Hey, Bill, it's well, Sam. Steve, take it away. A little QST.

The Care Ham Radio Group is having, sponsoring a test tomorrow. So if anybody is getting ready to get their hem radio license, we're doing it at the auto body shop there on. McAndrews. Yeah. It's not of McAndrews. Well, it's off of McAndrews. Well, yeah, it's off of McAndrews, but right over the bridge, really. Yeah, it's our auto body.

There's a classroom back there. So anybody who's been studying and wants to take the test, there's, I think, $14 fee that you have to pay, but that's kind of the way everything works. And you guys had a conversation yesterday about having communications that people aren't monitoring. Ham radio fits right into that. And we're going to have another class starting in the spring, probably, February. If you're interested, you can sign up at carehamradio.com. I appreciate that.

Also, sign up for the test tomorrow if that's your intention. Very good. Thanks. Wild Sam and Steve, thank you for the call. 770KMED. Hi, good morning. Who's this? because I found out there are a lot of people you have to take orders from for the next six to eight years of your life that are pretty dumb and you got to do what they say

and and there's a lot of people who are kind of on the edge and easily pushed over like the guy who shot up the baseball practice and got Scalith or the guy who traveled from California and tried to get Kavanaugh after what Schumer said about unleashing the whirlwind. That's right. And all of these young people, they are very enthusiastic and very naive.

And it's hard to know in the moment what order is lawful and what's unlawful. And yes, I had to memorize those catechisms when I was in Naval Aviation Officer Candidate at school about, you know, banning in your post and sleeping on century and following unlawful orders. Yeah, do you think, though, that, you know, the, Democrats that were talking about, you know, disobeying unlawful orders, and it's okay for you to do that, they were being very careful in what they were describing. And, of course, Rep. They never did say what was an unlawful order. No. They left that up, just like Kavanaugh with unleashing the whirlwind. I mean, Schumer.

And these young guys who have been fed on anti-Trump for the last decade and have Trump's arrangement syndrome, embedded in their vein, they're going to take in, and not only that, let's get a handle on history, how did the Marines get started? Have you ever wondered about the halls of Montezuma? Oh, yeah, they were going out, taking out the Muslim pirates at that time. They were taken out pilots, pirates, and they were ordered to do that by Jefferson. And they were in international or foreign waters when they did it. And essentially, it's kind of like bomb and drug boat. I don't think that is quite...

I don't think that's an equivalent, all right? I don't think that's a moral equivalent. They were attacking American shipping. They were attacking American shipping. They were doing it off North Africa. That's where they were bombing the drug boat. I mean, the pirates off North Africa, not exactly American coastal waters. Now, they spot it out.

Everybody talks about the lie that created this. But how did that get started? It got started when the families that owned most of the old-growth redwood lost their fortune, the Bernie Madoff, and they had to accelerate their harvest plan. I wasn't aware of that part of the conversation. So once this family that had been harvesting these redwoods at a very respectable rate for generations, accelerated their plan, and all of the people in Portland,

Seattle, and San Francisco found the spotting out. And what happened then is it destroyed Northern California and Southern Oregon small towns, and they turned a mess and every other vice because they didn't have

good paying jobs anymore. And it is destroyed an entire region of the country and somebody needs to be held accountable for that. Somebody has to take responsibility for it. Don't know if that ever will happen. Appreciate the take. Thank you.

770KMED. Hi, who's this? Hello. Are you with me? Yeah, hi. Hey, Bill, this is Brad with SOM. Hey, how you doing this morning, Brad? What's going on?

Hey, Matt. I got some really good info because you had Greg on. He's always talking about Bigfoot. Yeah. A buddy of mine has property up at the Applegate. He put a bunch of game cameras up. and he called me. He says,

you'll never believe it. It was. I caught, I think, two big foot. And he says, okay, so what's the story? He said, well,

I got out of my computer, and I was able to, you know, make them bigger. It's one of them were just like Kotech, and she was walking with a guy that had an ODOT vest on.

Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Well, I think there's some kind of connection there. Political skullduggery in the forest. All right. Thank you, brother. Let me take one more. We'll check in news with news, too.

And they're going to get into a medical discussion here for a little while. Hi, good morning. Who's this? All right. Hi. Hello? Yes, Gene. Go ahead.

Okay. I've got a few statements to make. Okay. Go ahead. Do you remember during the Democratic. grain of not that many years ago, the American people were told they were not allowed to say certain things, which was really the First Amendment. So that would be...

Are you talking about hate speech laws? Is that what you're referring to? Or hate speech? I'm referring to the fact that if you say anything derogatory against the Democrats, Or you question the election, FBI sticks on you. And you'd end up in prison. So, and as for the barn owls, they want to wipe one species out for another one that nature has decided to take out on our own. You're fat in nature there, baby.

Yeah, well, I would just say something that many Democrats have liked to throw in our face consistently, and that is follow the science. How about that? Their science is stupid. Okay. Appreciate the call. Hi, who's this? Morning.

Morning, Bill. You absolutely cannot shoot a raven. If you don't know the difference between a raven and a crow, you ought to break out a bird book. Okay, so what is the difference between a raven and a crow? Can you help me on? About an ounce and a half. That's it, huh?

Well, ravens have a giant thick top, top of their bill, top of the bottom of their bills way thicker than a crow, bigger bird, wedge-shaped tail, totally different voice. But now you shoot a raven, they'll take your rifle and you to jail. Really? No kidding. Absolutely. Federally protected. Always have been. Okay. Now, Ravens are these the ones that we think of that are nasty in our neighborhoods that attack everything from cats to every other bird in the neighborhood? Well, crows will do that too, but no, Ravens are a whole different animal. He can shoot all the crows you want. Ravens, nope.

No, no, no, no, don't do it. All right. Appreciate the tip. Thank you very much. KMED, KMED, HD-1, Eagle Point, Medford, KBXG grants pass.