Bill Meyer Show Podcast - Sponsored by Clouser Drilling www.ClouserDrilling.com - 11-24-25_MONDAY_6AM

Episode Date: November 24, 2025

catching up on the morning news headlines, then a talk with Curtis Houck from MRC newsbusters about the high tech, academia, and Wikipedia and Wikimedia collude to keep the kids indoctrinated and censoring the Right.

The Bill Meyer Show podcast is sponsored by Klauser Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausordrilling.com. Here's Bill Meyer. How are you doing this morning? Yes, the Monday before Thanksgiving. My favorite holiday, I just, there's something about Thanksgiving that just absolutely drives me happy. I mean, that's just the way it is.

I enjoy Black Friday. I don't know if I don't know if I'm going to bother with Black Friday this. year, though. I have usually been famously slavish to going out, grabbing a cup of coffee and going out and seeing what's going on. It's that, you know, they start the Christmas sales. What? I think it's after Labor Day, right? Isn't that when the black, it seems that way sometimes. The Black Friday sales start after Labor Day and then Halloween really kicks it. I don't know. We'll see. I might keep up the yearly tradition. I don't know. Every now and then you find a great in-store, that sort of thing.

Like, I ended up getting my ladder, like I'd mentioned last week, last year. And I've used that ladder a lot here. But anyway, I hope you're doing well. It's great weekend. Great weekend for No-tax.org.com, you know, that one, or dot org, pardon me. The no-tax site, the one trying to turn back the, which I think will be successful in getting this on the ballot to turn back the gasoline and the whole big bailout for ODOT, the big transportation. the big transportation tax system and thousands upon thousands being signed here in southern

Oregon. I was talking with Gary Clark, who was the point person for Jackson County. Saturday, Linda and I went over there by Hobby Lobby when they were doing some signups. And big crowds there, and he said just that in the last hour or two before we came there, we had about 5,600 is what he thought that was going on. And we're getting similar reports from the other sites, Jackson, Josephine, County. And, you know, we're a smaller part of the country. But, you know, it's interesting how Governor Kotech has finally, and I mean finally managed to unite Republicans and Democrats and independents. Yep, a bunch of independents and non-affiliates were signing up, too. Gary was telling

me about how they were doing some signups around Ashland a few days ago. They were doing a little little bit of that. And somebody walked up to them and it was kind of like a stereotypical granola ashland type is how it was being brought up. And this guy pointed at the guy's hat, you know, the Make America Great Again hat. He says, I am not one of you. I am not like you. But I'm signing this thing. And so he walked right over and signed the petition. And then they asked him, Well, why you're signing is, is because it has to do with my pocketbook. Yes, even the progressives, even the Democrats are understanding that, yeah, this is going to cost people a lot of money. So great job this weekend.

All the volunteers that have been working on this from all accounts, it was a very successful petition signing issue. So very good. Glad to do that. Glad to do that. Now, there was another story yesterday, not nearly as happy. We had an officer involved shooting in Medford, Rogue Valley Times. reporting about this. Medford cops shot an armed and suicidal person Sunday morning, person stable, so didn't die. And so that's good. And police aren't talking about a whole lot more,

but during an encounter on Mallard Lane in northeast Medford off Crater Lake Highway, it's where it happened. And it was, you know, early on Sunday morning. And so Jackson County is doing that, to doing the investigation on that story. But anyway, back to the great news, though. Besides the story, though, of the great sign-ups here, I have to then take it to one story, the story that had to be scratching my head at first and then laughing as time went on,

and that had to do with the meeting between Mom Donnie and President Trump. And it, we got a little bit of sound from it. And it's worth hearing if you hadn't heard it over the weekend. I just had a great meeting, a really good, very productive meeting. We have one thing in common. We want this city of ours that we love to do very well. And I wanted to congratulate the mayor.

He really ran an incredible race against a lot of smart people, starting with the early primaries against some very tough people, very smart people. And he beat him, and he beat him easily. And I congratulated him. and we talked about some things in a very strong common like housing and getting housing built and food and prices and the price of oil is coming way down. Yeah, it's kind of a strange exchange, not that the president was being strange about it, but it was not the way I think that people were predicting this one.

Unless it's one of those situations where President Trump, and likely this is really what he's doing, is playing Mamdani like a, like a, go, violin, you know, that perverial kind of thing. There's a part of me that, you know, you were saying nice things about Mom Dani. It's like, oh, you know, we're going to cooperate, this and that. How's you going to go back to the Democratic Socialists of America and say, yeah, yeah, the guy's evil or something like that. But anyway, Mom Dany did have a little talk on that, too. I think both President Trump and I, we are very clear about our positions and our views.

And what I really appreciate about the president is the meeting that we had focused not on places of disagreement, which there are, many. and also focused on the shared purpose that we have in serving New Yorkers. And frankly, that is something that could transform the lives of the eight and a half million people who are currently struggling under a cost of living crisis with one in four living in poverty. And the meeting came back again and again to what it could look like to lift those New Yorkers out of struggle and start to deliver them a city that they could do more than just struggle to afford it, but actually start to live in it. And I've been called much worse than a despot, so it's not that insulting.

I think he'll change his mind after we get to work you together. Yes, please. Okay. Very disarming, I suppose. And then finally there was the, was it the fascist thing? I think that's what this one is about. Are you affirming that you think President Trump is a fascist? I've spoken about.

That's okay. You can just say yes. Okay. It's easier. It's easier than explaining it. In other words, just stick to calling me a fascist. I'm used to that. It's like, okay, fine.

move along I just love that the one thing though is that this may be kind of screwed around with the midterm election strategy for the Republicans because what were they doing all this time everyone was just talking about

mom donnie the Connie I mean how many times did Sean Hannity say that mom Donnie the commie and moving forward what are we going to be moderating the tone whereas it's still going to be mom Donnie the commie but he'll be a little bit defanged and he's talking about

raising taxes in New York City but there's no evidence that Kathy Hokel the governor there is going to let him do it so I don't know is it a lot of storm and fury about nothing maybe we talk about that okay so we have that story

going on another amazing headline coming out of the Oregon Health Authority that I just couldn't believe the the religion is very strong in the Oregon Health Authority.

And maybe you know what I'm talking about. Maybe you don't, but I'll share a little bit of that coming up. Hi, this is Charlene at American Industrial Door. 21 minutes after 6 joined the conversation at 7705-633. CDC on its website last week. We had just mentioned this for a little while, talked about it. And we're going to talk more about it with Dr. Jane Orient MD from the Association of American Physicians, AAPS online.

We're going to talk with her about that about an hour from now. It had to do with the announcement on the CDC website, which has been boiling through the medical establishment. And if you don't mind, I'll just kind of recap what the CDC released last week. The claim that vaccines do not cause autism is not an evidence-based claim because studies have not ruled out the possibility that infant vaccines caused autism. Studies supporting a link have been ignored by health authorities. HHS has launched a comprehensive assessment of the causes of autism, including investigations on plausible biological mechanisms and potential causal links. No doubt this is the news coming out of the CDC now that RFK Jr.

is the person in charge, and there's a willingness now to look at potential cause. Now, when I was talking about the religion before the break here, this is the story that got me over the week. I think this came in late Friday. The West Coast Health Alliance stands with scientific evidence. Vaccines are not linked to autism. That is all they said. This came from Oregon Health Authority. The West Coast Health Alliance continues to strongly recommend vaccines to protect our

children, noting that rigorous research of millions of people in multiple countries over decades provides high-quality evidence that vaccines are not linked to autism. The Alliance is deeply concerned about inaccurate claims to the contrary, recently posted on the Federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention website. Autism is a complex neurodevelopmental position, a condition rather, multiple contributing genetic and environmental factors, suggesting it stems from any single cause such as vaccination misleads families who deserve accurate guidance. No.

The CDC did not say that it was only vaccines that cause autism. But what they said that they're, what they said was claiming that there is no link between vaccine and autism is not scientific back. There is no evidence of this. because anything which would tend to prove that there was a link between autism and vaccines was conveniently ignored and it has been for decades. Anyone, everyone has known this, anyone that tried to talk about anything connecting vaccines to autism

was considered loon for the longest time. And one of the worst aspects of this is how they would say that, okay, well, because the measles vaccine was not a problem and then the mumps vaccine was not a problem and then rebella vaccine was not a problem well combining all three together it means there's not a problem there's all sorts of ways that the system

has has kind of put their thumb on the scale you know even when parents would say hey you know everything was fine then I gave my baby you know the MMR and now the autistic or non-responsive

and there's just too much of that, which has been going on for too long. And, yeah, are there genetic predispositions? It probably are. Probably are. But the point is that RFK Jr. is wanting to go down the rabbit hole and go where the evidence leads. And also, not just automatically start off with, you know, vaccines don't cause autism. And especially the part that really irritated me about the Oregon Health Association, and the West Coast Health Alliance coming out with this report over the weekend

is that they know that even inside most, if not many, of the vaccine packages. You know, they have a little white sheet in there that talks about the information about the vaccine. Quite often, autism is listed as a side effect, a possible side effect of the vaccines. And yet the West Coast Health Alliance is saying, no, no, there is no, no scientific evidence that vaccines are linked to autism. Well, okay, are you lying then now, or are the pharmaceutical companies when they actually put something in the white paper, you know, the box, the thing inside the box that says that autism is a possible side effect.

Okay, who's lying? All right? It gets exhausting, but I'll talk with Dr. Jane Orient MD about that. It should be a pretty interesting talk about it. things, okay? 7705-633, 770-K-M-E-D. What other headlines we got going on this morning? Multiple international airlines canceling Venezuela flights following the U.S. warning.

Okay, looks like a splendid little war maybe coming there. Who knows? Epic Times. A.I. Toys pose unprecedented risk to infants and children. Toys embedded with artificial intelligence chatbots. That's a thing now, huh? I don't have any grandkids of toy buying age here. Let's see.

New advisory group, advocacy group, fair play, warning parents against buying AI toys for their children during the holiday season. The advisory endorsed by 150 child development and digital safety experts in organizations. Watch out for that. Miko Gabo, Graham Grock, let's see, Smart Teddy, Follotoy, Royby, Luna, the robot dog. Top toy maker, Mattel also plans to sell AI toys marketed to kids as young as infants. Yeah, I think, okay, if you want to get your child something safe, just get them, I don't know, something like piece of wood by spanky drawn, you know. That's the safe one, right? That's the safe one.

No batteries needed. Piece of wood. I suppose there is a danger like with that in which the child can then use it to hit some wood with it. but then that'll prepare you for a life of a political frustration. But anyway, I digress. Let me go to the phones here. Hi, good morning. This is Bill.

Who's this? Welcome. Good morning. Good morning, Bill. You know, you're bringing up the issue of lying. And I think lying is such a major, major, major issue here. I don't care whether it's about the clam of dams, about global warming, about what's going on. reform policy and certainly vaccines. There's a great article on Lou Rockwell today called

COVID censors mending fences poorly. And it's all about, you know, the massive, massive amount of lying. And the trouble about all this official line that's going on is that we cannot make as a society good decisions when we have all this misdisc, uninformation rolling out from official sources like the media and the government. It just, it hamstrings every rational way to make decisions. And so we have, you know, drag queens with the children, and it just goes on and on. You said something too earlier about how this co-tax transportation tax, the tax is all about supporting that. I disagree with that. I think what's going on here is she's trying to stuff the budget so they can keep their woke program and all their anti-carbon.

Oh, no, I will agree with you. That's part of it because, you know, it wasn't exactly like there was any threat of cutting the woke transportation projects. That never happened. They said, we're going to fire the snowplow drivers. That's, you know, in other words, you know, you hold them up with a gun to the head saying, all right, hey, either do this, give us all this money so we can do all the carbon reduction. stuff or else the snowplow or snowplow drivers get shot you know that kind of thing right yeah exactly so i i just i just you know so if what they're doing thing yeah the lies are are are continuing you're

right about that uh tom but i'm not but what i was getting at here when it comes to the to the vaccine thing okay you have the oregon health you're you're talking about lying i think there's something a little it's a little bit deeper or more complex than a lie i just don't want to say i don't believe that you have doctors at OHA that are all of a sudden just coming out and saying, you know, we have to lie about this because, look, the CDC says something different now. No, no, it's more like the line is systemic. And what happened with COVID and all the way along the line, they found out if you go to the heads of organization like the AMA or whatever, and you poison the top group, then it percolates

down from there. But this poisoning has been going on for a long time. This is a mantra. Okay, this is, when it comes right down to a vaccine policy and has been for a long time, is the equivalent of a secular religion. Vaccines cause health, right? That is essentially what we have been living with for many decades now. You have people suffer from a drug deficiency.

You know, you have a headache. Exactly, exactly. The headache is because of a drug deficiency. The reason you have a heart attack is that somehow nature didn't prevent. provide you with naturally with enough statin, you know, to see what I mean? You know, it's always a shortage of that. Exactly. It's not the inflammation that's causing the heart attack and the arterial sclerosis and that sort of thing. We always tweet symptoms here. So I'm with you on this, but vaccines in the medical world probably the number one top religion, secular religion

that there is. And as a people, I think, become more unchurched and, uh, less spiritual and more secularized when it comes right down to it. They're looking for God someplace, and in the medical world, vaccines, of course, have been their God for quite some time. Yeah, government's God, the medical establishment's God, the newspapers are God. You don't question God. You know, that's just exactly. But I'm what I, you know, if you see through one lie, one lie, for me, it was the Vietnam War.

I saw that as a lie way back then, and I knew it was a lie to my core. And once I had that view, I started looking out at everything else is going on, and I just saw how disgusting our government is. Well, it's kind of sad that you, it's kind of sad that you have to start when you hear an official government report and having to automatically disregard it at first until it is really, really, really proven true. That, unfortunately, is the world that we've been in now, and for quite, some time. It's nothing new, really. We're just being, there's just being a little more overt about it, okay? Yeah.

Not hiding. Voices like yours are so essential because if you can start to hear the truth, then you start to be able to see it in other areas and so forth. But I tell you, unless you realize that we're aware in the ocean of lies, that you, if you don't see that and understand that, then you can have a very poor ability to deal with reality. Point well taken. And I try to deal with reality is what we're trying our best to do. And by the way, this is not what I was saying this morning here.

By the way, thanks to the call, Tom. What I was saying was not about throwing every vaccine under the bus. Because, you know, medical doctors are saying out there, there are some diseases in which the vaccine benefit outweighs the risk in certain cases. but many that they do not. And it is also ridiculous to say for the OHA to come out there with the West Coast Health Alliance

and say that vaccines are not linked to autism. Well, even the vaccine manufacturers will mention vaccines as having autism as a side effect in many cases. So, okay, I don't know, it's a bizarre world that we live in. What are we supposed to believe? Hi, good morning.

This is Bill. Who's this? Morning, Bill. Hey, Steve, Sunny Valley. How you doing there, Steve? What's up? I'm doing pretty good. Hey, I get a lot of far-left people on my Facebook feed because I was involved in a little race called the Kinetic Sculpture Race for about a decade or so, and it has a lot of the artistic crowd in it, and a lot of them are very far left, and they write long misses that are TLDR for the most part, but they are all against Mom Dami for meeting with Hitler. But that's what I was wondering if that was the whole point of meeting with him.

What do you think? Yeah, I think so. And they are, they hold Mondami as, you know, he's pretty much the head of the Democratic Party, right? I'm a socialist party right now. And he met with Hitler, and now their hope is lost, and I just couldn't help but last about that. Yeah. And, of course, I find it fascinating that anybody in all hope is lost by getting together

and talking with people that you supposedly hate or hate you. I don't get that. All right. Steve, thanks for the story. Thanks for letting us know from behind the scenes, all right? 635. We'll catch up on the rest of the news here. Then continuing on.

Curtis Halk is going to join me from MRC NewsBusters. Got a couple of interesting studies going on to delve into. As your family and ours gather for the holidays, hearing the Bill Myers Show on 1063, KMED. Great to have Curtis Halk back. He currently serves as the managing editor of NewsBusters. A couple of years as a news analyst in the Media Research Center's News Analysis, News Analysis Division. And he is just plugged into what is going on here.

Curtis, it's great to have you back. Welcome, sir. Always a pleasure. Good to be with you. A couple of reports that MRC's Free Speech America put out late last week, and there's all sorts of connections. And I know that a lot of people are thinking, okay, President Trump's in here, all the woken of the culture is being rinsed out, but essentially these two reports are out there indicating that there is a lot of work to do when it comes to and now, I guess really what we're talking about, the state university systems essentially

being the pipeline of hard left-wing activism, right? There's more evidence and even donor sheets and slips and receipts. Tell us all about it, if you could, please. Yeah, so Wikipedia has a kind of subgroup. It's called Wiki Education. It openly recruits professors to put students to work using, you know, and editing Wikipedia articles. And so you imagine what could go wrong in that? And of course, we found that Wikipedia, this Wiki education group is still embracing DEI programs. And as part of that, we found that, you know, Wikipedia, the site itself is effectively blacklisted conservative outlets from being used as citations on entries. And as we saw during the confirmation fights, introduced a very skewed view of Trump nominees. Because whether we like it or not, Bill, people are still using Wikipedia for their information

because it's right there at the top of your Google thing, Yahoo, I don't know if Ask is still a thing, but it's there at the top of your search. And so people are going in there, and people who may not be as in tuned with the news, maybe going there to just get a feel of who somebody is or an organization is, and then we find that it is all kinds of nonsense.

And then we also found that there's, courses hosted by Wiki Education, so they're not only putting students to work, but they're embedded in a number of courses, including this is my favorite, queer of color critique airing this fall at UC Berkeley. Oh, okay. The class speaks to expand knowledge of topics related to marginalized sexual communities and cultures, and then there was a Wikipedia page just signed as part of the class called LGBTQ slang.

Well, whatever that means. So you're embedding, you're pushing Wikipedia pages on students, and you're also getting them involved on the editing side of things. So you're almost educating, yeah, you're educating the next generation of editors over at Wikipedia. You're setting the rules and you're then using said pages as material in classes. Yeah, another one I've noticed here over at Skidmore College, queering religion, right? Yeah, right. Yeah, of course, it excludes this long. Isn't that interesting?

Yeah, yeah, quite interesting about this. Now, when I'm kind of curious about who actually owns Wikipedia, I've always wondered about it and never looked much into it. The one thing I do know that if you are a controversial figure, you almost never get to edit your own page, from what I understand. It's always the left editing the page for you on your behalf. What happens with that? How's that work? Correct. Yeah, it's overseen by a group called the Wicked Media Foundation.

If you go on Wikipedia, you may get asked to donate money. There's a reason for that. Jimmy Wales is one of the guys who, he kind of more or less overseas Wikipedia. There's been some disputes over the years. You know, when you go to the Google kind of AI search function and underfunding is primarily funded by donations from readers and other sources, which that's incredibly vague. Boy, boy, I'll tell you, there's a loophole driving, you know, wide enough to drive a bunch of communists through, okay?

Or at least Arabella maybe, some Arabella funding, although I'm told that Arabella may be on its way up. Oh, yes. No, no, no. That was the story last week, Arabella in the 1630 fund. They're just moving assets around. They say they're shutting down, but they're basically moving everything around to this. I think sunlight or sunflower. So it just pops up the same, the same work pops up under a different name.

Because we all now know the name. Uh-huh. So now they're just like, no, we need a new name. So then people don't, you know. It's too synonymous now. Okay. I've got to change it up. All right.

So we have Wikipedia, of course, being a pipeline of left-wing activists who will then control this. And you're right. I think most people, a lot of times for something basic, they'll go, just look it up on Wikipedia because it's about as easy as it gets, right? Right, exactly, in the way it's presented. I mean, just like in a previous generation, you would go to your encyclopedia of Britannica. But, of course, in Wikipedia, because it's not only biased, it can be edited fairly easily, you can get all kinds of things.

Now, given that you are with MRC, managing editor of news busters and such, Are any of the sources on Wikipedia other than perhaps maybe you folks actually allowed to be used as sources when they edit, when they edit papers, or when they edit entrants? All kinds of problems, and that leads me to the other thing that came out earlier this month from our team. You know, one site that is used a lot is Al Jazeera. Al Jazeera has been cited nearly 140,000 times on Wikipedia. That's an interesting choice. I would say it's one of the more trusted sources on Wikipedia. Isn't that interesting?

Yeah, sure, sure. Of course, funded by the Qatari government. All right. People need to understand that. You know, it's 100% of right-leaning sites blocks that we took a look at, whereas they only have had issues or raised issues with about 15% of liberal sites. They have a bunch of different categories, as you would expect when someone tries to use them as a citation. Generally reliable, green check mark, no consensus unclear or additional considerations apply.

Marginally reliable. So still not bad. And then you get into three. Isn't that interesting? You have two good categories, and then you basically have three bad categories. generally unreliable, deprecated, and blacklisted. Now, let me take a wild guess that news busters, media research, anything connected with your organization would be considered, like, the worst of the worst? Yeah, so we've got, yes, so Breitbart News, bad, Daily Color bad, Fox News, talk shows generally bad.

New York Times, though, checkmark. That's interesting. Yeah. We're generally unreliable, which is kind of fun. Well, when you're trying to inculcate the kids in a state religion... They were like the least bad. Oh, you're the least bad? You're the least bad?

Generally, yeah. Generally, unreliable. Generally, but still bad. All right. But, you know, it's one of those, I guess, we're the broken clock, I guess, in the eyes of Wikipedia. We can be right a few times. even though I do think what's really interesting about what we do at NewsBusters Bill, and you know this from talking to us for so many years, which is when it comes to our number

studies, our minutes and seconds, our minutes and second, you know, it's about running, it's like running a marathon, it's running a 400-meter race. It's very much a straight-up, it's not subjective, you know, those kinds of things. If a certain word has been mentioned, we'll do far less studies. the word either has been mentioned or hasn't been mentioned. Progressive has either been used or not used to describe someone. But in this case, you know, it's all about the vibes. And somehow people think, Wikipedia must think we're just making up words

and making up numbers as we go along here. Yeah. Speaking with Curtis Howe, once again, managing editor of Newsbusters, another story which was out last week that this report that you folks ended up covering, was Apple News doing an engagement. incredible full-week blackout on every major right-leaning outlet. And I'm kind of wondering what was going on and why this occurred, do you know? Right. Well, yeah. I mean, this one's particularly interesting. We took a look at its top 20 stories.

And during the previous week, November 8 through the 14th, they picked articles from NPR, watched the post, NBC. Fox News Digital was missing, even though Fox News is the most visited website. Third most visited website in America, New York Post, Daily News, not mentioned. You know, folks need to understand one of the biggest misnomers that we run into that we talk to with supporters, donors, family members, so on and so forth, is people think when they go on to Apple or Google News, it is somehow, like, uniquely news, like it's a journalist division. And what they're doing is they're aggregating. They're taking articles, pulling articles, and just cross-posting them onto their feeds. And who decides what Google or any of these other services, you know, is there like a...

And that's where we run into the issue. There's people at Apple. There's people at Google, AOL, MFN, Yahoo, that all do this, that they curate news. And there's not an awareness of conservatives. You're not an awareness of providing a look at a different set of. sources. We looked at 140, they found 140 articles there on Apple News. 93 were considered left or lean left by the one group, all sides, which we generally think is a good arbiter of saying, you know, who's liberal and who's not. They say we're very conservative, but

like we don't dispute that. We are who we are. Well, you kind of wear it like a badge courage. There's no problem with that. But let's see you're honest about your point of view. And I don't think there's anything wrong with being honest about your point of view. I do wish that major media outlets would quit trying to pretend that they're straight down the middle all the time. Yeah, the only article that we found, the only outlet that we found in our study period that was not considered left or lean left that Apple had to, including a right-leaning news source, was they had 10 articles from the Wall Street Journal, which they put as center for news reporting, and if it was something from their opinion pages, it obviously was

lean right. You know, that's really interesting because I don't really look at the Wall Street Journal as a particularly conservative group, do you? No. No, and I'll just, in the thing that we concluded our article with, was for Charlie Kirk's shooting, the article that they used was The Guardian. and you're like, wait a fact that the Guardian is like the openly partisan labor party paper in the U.K. That's right.

And why would you go there for coverage of an American assassination? Hmm. Interesting. I mean, again, it just goes to the news judgment and how it's like these people are not actually journalists and they're not actually fair arbiters and judges of character when it comes to what they pick for their news articles. So I would tell folks, you know, with Apple and Google News, it feels like it's easy to do to just go there for your news, but go straight to the source. This is, again, why it's so important to follow your favorite radio show and podcast, and you go straight to the source itself because otherwise you're going to get too much of a colored view. There's other places like rounds news, which are much better, but just simply going through big tech, the very people that censored us back.

during the COVID era, I don't think you should be going to them for news. That's just me. So be clear, though, that nothing has really changed all that much, okay? They've given Trump some money. They've showed up as an inauguration. They said, we're sorry, you know, okay, good for you. But they're still going to behave as they have behaved in the past, maybe just being a little smarter about it, a little more subtle about it, necessarily?

Exactly. Or maybe they're just trying to wait. Trump out for four years and hope that a Democrat comes back into power. Yeah, that's probably more of what is really going on here, Curtis. Curtis Halk once again. By the way, when it comes to Wikipedia and the Wiki education, the Wikimedia and all the rest of that group, is there any talk about, of course, I don't know, does Britannica or do the old, the world book encyclopedia, the things that we used to have? Is there any real online version of that today, which is easily accessible?

And I don't know what they've done with those things. I haven't looked up, Britannica. Is there a Britannica these days when you're looking for an encyclopedic kind of information? There is. It's just Britannica.com. That's all it is. You could try and go there. Unfortunately, they are a subscription site.

Oh. You'd have to pay for it, but nonetheless it is, it still exists. as part of Merriam-Webster. But if it's part of Merriam-Webster, is it truly, you know, neutral in its approach? I can't even imagine Britannica.com is all that neutral, is it? Exactly, you know, and I definitely think that it is true. It's just a state of affairs of the world that we live in. You thought the Encyclopedia Britannica 40, 50 years ago, was a pretty reliable,

just kind of dry but purposely dry source. because that's how you kind of keep it level set, but now I think like everything else that's been infected, Merriam Webster now, you know, tries to include all parts of woke ideology and words of the year,

new words being added to try and appeal to the kids when I think that's kind of not the point of sites like that. The point of companies like Marion Webster is to teach the basics, you know, be a source, to be a the source, in a dictionary for people to look up the big words when you read a George Will column.

There you go. All right, dude, why? All right, Curtis, 6-7, 6-7. That's all I can say. Whatever that means. I still don't know how to use that term properly from the young... I know. It's not like Riz or RAD.

Like previous slang terms had a meaning to something else. All right. Well, I'm going to kind of revel in my irrelevancy, you know, to some... such matters, okay. But I really appreciate you coming on, Curtis. Curtis Halk, once again, managing editor of Newsbusters, and these reports over at Media, Media Research Centers, Free Speech, America, on the Wikipedia, Apple News. And let's see, the website for that is, want to make sure I get those correctly, that would be MRC, free speech, America.orgie, for that, right? Mm-hmm. All right. And you also, newsbusters.org, and we're on an app now, Apple and Android.

All right. Very good. Curtis, always good talking with you, and thanks so much. Be will. Take care, Bill. 655. This is KMED. 6.58's in change. We have some open phone time here. Get things rolling here. It's going to be a short broadcast week, of course. Wednesday is going to be wrapping it up. And then Turkey time for me, Black Friday on, well, Friday for that matter. And then back to it. So you get something to say. Jump in, all right? reading a bunch of stuff going on this morning. Yeah, we're going to be talking more about the vaccine issue here.

Dr. Jane Orient MD at 730. Interesting story in the Grants Pass Daily Courier over the weekend that I was perusing here. Daily Courier talking about that Canadian mineral exploration company says it's remaining optimistic about the potential for nickel mining in Southern Oregon. They ended up doing some new tests over in Cave Junction. Chris Bristol's story saying earlier this month, Homeland Nickel, based in Toronto, said samples on what the company is calling the Josephine Creek property, confirming the presence of lots of nickel,

key ingredient in stainless steel and electric vehicle batteries in concentrations that warrant further testing and analysis. This is five miles west of the city of Cave Junction. And the company has state claims on thousands of acres, and it's hoping that it will, interest investors buoyed by the Trump administration's pro-mining policies, which are more concerned about China's dominant role in the global nickel market than environmental issues. Of course, what will be really interesting is they also detail in this story.

And it's worth taking a look at. I'm just going to touch on a couple of the bright parts here. Environmental groups are, of course, just coming unglued about this. Rogue River, a Rogue Riverkeeper, they write in this one. issuing a statement this week, warning of new exploration threats stemming from homeland nickel's interest in strip mining and the effects such mining could have on watersheds. These threats are not new to the area, but they are popping back up at a rapid rate due to the Trump's policies, okay, even though the Biden administration was not completely anti-mining.

But interesting how they look at this. I'll be curious, though, how the environmental world that is wedded to don't do any anything anywhere at any time, which I think is kind of their policy. No, a tree is only good for burning in the summertime. And it's even better if it's being burnt, it's better being burned by a collaborative, preferably a left-wing collaborative being paid by taxpayer dollars. You know, that kind of thing. I being a little sarcastic, so please forgive me.

A little artistic license here early on a Monday morning. But where do they think that, where do rogue riverkeepers in the other environmental groups, where do they think the critical minerals come from? So it's only that we get critical minerals from some African nation with absolutely no environmental controls, rather than doing it here and doing it safely and doing it with our regulatory status. You think that the goal of having mining today

is just to poison Cave Junction? I would be reasonably okay. this is Oregon for crying out loud. But the idea that nothing can ever happen and yet that green and sustainable energy utopia will come some other way. Well, we'll just find the information. We'll find those critical minerals somewhere else, right? Is that what the rogue riverkeepers are all about? I don't know.

at some point we're going to stop ignoring those religious cellets too i shouldn't say ignoring but hey listen everybody has to live here you say you want your sustainable energy etc guess what you need nickel you need chromium you need uh you know all the various other rare earths rare earths rather and uh and critical minerals this is the reality if you want to do this or don't you not really want to do it or do you just really just really just just want to, uh, to lock our area up and keep us poor and hot in the summer and cold in the winter. I don't know. I, I, I don't exactly know where they're, um, where they're coming from. KMED, KMED, KMEDE, HD, Eagle Point, Medford, KBXG grants pass. We'll catch up on the

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