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Episode Date: November 25, 2025

Morning news headlines and opinion, and then Dr. GILDA CARLE discusses the GOP ignoring of men...how to fix that strategy. Her latest Book Real Men Don't Go Woke: The Book They Would Not Publish. The Truth That Must Be Told

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this morning I wanted to this is the weirdest it's such a strange corporate lawsuit to come out right before Thanksgiving and I was reading this last night on Newsweek I didn't even know Newsweek still existed but apparently it does. Campbell's Soup, the vice president of Campbell's Soup is mocking poor people who

buy its food. It was a secret recording, right? And this all started with an employee discrimination and retaliation lawsuit in Wayne County Circuit Court. This happened in Michigan. A former security analyst is accusing Campbell's Soup that he was fired for reporting inappropriate conduct by a senior executive, and this is a lawsuit out there now called Garza v. Campbell's Soup Company. So I'm thinking about this as you get ready to, you know, get the goodies for the Thanksgiving feast, right? You know, what do you have to have, right? You know, well, if you're not making your own gravy, you start with a can of Campbell's mushroom soup or something similar to that, right? That's pretty much the deal. But anyway,

The lawsuit against Campbell's Soup raising serious questions about the executive there, but also the thing is, though, what this guy, what this vice president was talking about Campbell's Soup. And it ended up being uplaid, Garza alleging the executive delivered an hour-long tirade, criticizing the Campbell Soup company, disparaging the employees and customers, making racially offensive remarks about Indian colleagues to local four news, ended up airing this in Detroit. Of course, they had to bleep it. And Bally, the executive that they're talking about,

is heard saying, we have S word for F word, poor people who buy our S, question mark. Who buy our excrement, I guess. I don't buy Campbell's products barely anymore. It's not healthy. Now that I know what the F word is in. minute. He also referenced bioengineered meat saying, I don't want to eat a piece of chicken that came from a 3D printer. The recording lasts for like an hour and 15 minutes.

He was ranting about coworkers, the Indians who don't know anything like they couldn't think for themselves. And anyway, this just went on and on and on. What a great time for this to happen. I don't know. Can we short Campbell's soup company? Is that a separate company or part of a larger multinational? Of course, I don't know if this will make it out there. I just thought that was a very interesting story with a Thanksgiving twist because just about everybody buys Campbell's soup at one point or another,

even if it's just mushroom soup for the gravy for Thanksgiving. I don't know if they're bioengineered mushrooms or not. It's a 16 minutes after six. by the way thank you for all the kind words uh my mother's doing just fine ended up going to medical eye center yesterday and uh spent a few hours there she was going in getting uh the right cataract popped out pretty big one and uh now we're into the drops four times a day and it was over there at 430 this morning getting them in there and she uh it's amazing they were so thick she has to have another one done too but she was talking about the depth of

color. I can't believe how much color is coming out of the TV. She had television on. And I said, yeah, you didn't realize what you've been missing all this time, right? And it's like the colors are coming alive again. And I think that she can see things better. It's set for a distance is how the lens is being set up there. We'll probably have to get some cheaters for her, some readers for the close-up work. But still, so far, so good. And it seems to be healing really rapidly. And my gosh, it hasn't even been 24 hours yet. Boy, that place is a machine. I'll tell you.

It's just like a conveyor belt of people coming in and out and out there. Very professional. Very professional. Well done. All right. Not so professional could be the Oregon Department of Human Services. There is a story that I was reading about on O-Live and various other places. Everybody's covering this one right now.

It has to do with the death of a five-year-old autistic boy. It was out on the coast. a county boy. O live reporting that the lawyer for Joshua James McCoy estate sent a letter to the state this month that they're going to file a lawsuit. And they're talking about what they describe as the state's negligence, mishandling of complaints about the boy's welfare. Five-year-old went missing about a year ago. His mother, Angela German, told authorities she woke up from a nap, only to discover he was gone. The boy had autism, didn't talk much, didn't like to wear clothes either, she said. And so they found the boy's body four days later, about two

miles from home. And it was hypothermia and exposure that ended up killing him. The point being, though, is that German was subject to complaints, all sorts of complaints to child welfare, to state child welfare officials. And everybody was alleging neglect. And DHS reviewing its handling in a November 6 letter to directors of the DHS and Oregon Department of Administrative Services, a lawyer James Healey calling the finding a self-serving conclusion, the death was not sudden, it was not unforeseeable, it was tragic and preventable. It was a culmination of six months during which the Oregon Department of Human Services got repeated, escalating reports of severe neglect, and they didn't do anything. So that's what they're doing. So

So the thing is, the estate is suing, which really means the father is suing. Now, check out what was being described in this situation. The state's review of actions about Joshua's home life, this little five-year-old boy, squalid conditions and concerns about the well-being. alcohol use, filthy home, food on the floor, human feces in the home. And they left him in there. Now, apparently the father does not live there or did not live there. But he is part of this lawsuit. A caller complained that German failed to meet the boy's needs

and that German drank heavily left the child unsupervised. So they're going to sue. Looks like they're going to sue. The estate's going to sue, which means the father is going to sue. you know the irony of this is that according to state law if the estate wins the mother who did all the abuse would get half the loot what you think about that may the father suing saying i don't want this to happen again but if they sue and win and i'd be kind of curious how they how they couldn't win given that there are lots of documentation about the state of of Oregon not taking the kids away, the abusive mother or the mother or the alcoholic, the one who has all these problems, she gets half the money.

And there's a law that might be in need of changing. Okay, you're going to sue and we have an abuse thing and what another. And we, uh, so in other words, we're going to sue the state because you didn't take my child away from me. That's essentially what this lawsuit will end up saying. But of course, the father is saying, hey, they would not give the child to me. Of course, I don't know if the father was a good father or not. I really don't know.

I don't know the people involved. But it sounded like that was a household in pretty big crisis, and they didn't do anything about it. State didn't do anything about that. And at the same time, I'm sure that there are people within the Department of Human Service that would say, what? What? You didn't want to do all the vaccinations for your child?

Seize them! I think I'm just kidding about that, okay? Speaking of alcohol, have you noticed the last year or two that there seems to be a growing war on alcohol? And this is as we're getting ready to have Thanksgiving, sit down for a nice meal, maybe a glass of wine, maybe you like beer, whatever it is with your turkey, whatever you would like about this. Linda and I have both been talking about this a lot, that we've noticed that there is a growing war on alcohol. It's like somebody is afraid that somebody's having a good time someplace. And I got this news release from Mike Marshall at the U.S. Alcohol Policy Alliance.

U.S. government is expected to eliminate from its dietary guidelines the longstanding recommendation that adults limit alcohol consumption to one or two drinks a day. This could be a major win for an industry threatened by heightened scrutiny of alcohol health effects. That's from a Reuters report earlier this year. But Mike Marshall is the CEO of the U.S. Alcohol Policy Alliance. And he says, Bill, I'm reaching out to you and your organization to publicly endorse the United States Alcohol Policy Alliance recommended guidelines on alcohol consumption ahead of the release of the dietary guidelines for America this December. Recent press reports suggest that instead of incorporating the growing scientific consensus

that no level of alcohol consumption is risk-free. The forthcoming DGA update may instead rely on vague language echoing the industry's drink responsibly message. If that occurs, our aim is to ensure that the media and the public have access to a clear science-based alternative. Your endorsement would help amplify these evidence-driven recommendations and strengthen the public health conversation. Please submit this form by December 1st. Thank you for considering this request. Now, this is the U.S. Alcohol Policy Alliance. Their push is that nobody should drink, period.

And I can't help but think that maybe they're feeling a bit emboldened because President Trump is a teetotaler. he doesn't drink. He doesn't drink at all. Of course, his father was a raging alcoholic and a big problem, so he never drank. But I've noticed that ever since Trump's re-election, I'm getting more of these type of things. I don't know if they're looking at this as a possibility of maybe they're feeling the tide turn and that it's time to, if you're thinking about having a drink, oh, no, no. And notice how the doctors are always asking now, every time you go in for the wellness check. How many do you? drinks a day do you have any of your business you know he's what you want to say back to them

really and so what u.s. alcohol policy alliance and a lot of the other what can we call them the modern day carry nations remember carry nations from the the old prohibition type movement you know back in the 1800s maybe this is what is going on and now you're and you're getting this information right now from a guy that doesn't drink much i probably have five six drinks a year. That's about the extent of it. But I also don't like nebnosers that are trying to get into us, especially when they give us clear-based, science-based alternatives, science-based everything. This whole culture of scientism is if for some reason we're supposed to be ruled and everything about public policy is supposed to be someone with a lab coat telling us what

we are or shouldn't be allowed to do. In other words, we have no agency, no control of ourselves, it's up to some scientist to tell us what we should be doing at all times. So I guess I get irritated by that, more than just about anything else, that they're supposed to be the lab coat in charge. We don't elect lab coats. But you know, the way that people talk these days around us, you think that the lab coats and the administrators were the ones in charge. But yet, the lab coats, I guess, are the ones talking, oh, boy, you know, we need to change it so that there is never any alcohol should ever be allowed because there is no sign to take. Hey, what about the blue zones? For all these people, including these

pointy-headed lab coats from the U.S. Alcohol Policy Alliance that are saying, oh, there's no such thing as any benefit to alcohol. What about the blue zones? You know, the blue zones where they have some of the healthiest people in the entire world? And you know something almost all of them do? They drink every day. Yeah, they have wine with their meal, with their pasta meal, their Mediterranean-type diet or whatever it is. You know, it tends to be one of the things they talk about a lot in the blue zones. What about them?

I guess that's different. But still, there are a bunch of people out there that I swear are upset that someone is just having too good of a time out there. And this is not me advocating for tons of drinking because I don't do a ton of drinking myself. But I also have no judgment with you drinking responsibly. I think drinking responsibly is a perfectly good enough rule, don't you? This is the Bill Meyer show, KMED, 993, KBXG. So that's kind of a pebble in my shoe this Tuesday, this whole idea that they're trying to push the change to that no alcohol

is ever thought about as beneficial. I just don't believe that is true, at least according to just common sense and experience over the years. Fall roofing is growing. now proudly serving Brookings, Gold. Hi, I'm Steve Potter, Body Shop Manager of Lithuibati and Paint, and I'm on 106.7, KMED.

And it's a shade before 630 on Pebble in Your Shoe Tuesday. We'll have some mobile phone time here a little while. But coming up, Dr. Gilda Carl is going to join me. And she's the author of Real Men Don't Go Woke, the book they would not publish the truth it must be told. And as they go through the Republican losses in these elections that just occurred not too long ago, It's starting to think that the real problem that they're starting to face and will the Republican Party take a look at it is that they don't reach out to men.

Men still tend to be the ones that do most of the voting for Republicans. They didn't really do a lot of that. What's going on? We'll talk with Dr. Gilda about that here in the next few minutes after news. Also, a Fox business news update. See how things are going today. I'm Matt Jordan. Join me for Fox 26.

First visit. We're in Center Point and Grants Pass. You're here in the Bill Myers Show on 1063, KMED. Dr. Gilda Carl, Ph.D., author of Real Men, Don't Go Woke, the book that they would not publish, The Truth It Must Be Told. Gosh, you've been all over talk shows, news and talk shows, and gosh, you've been on Fox. You've been everywhere. In fact, you were even MTV's Love Doc, right?

Isn't that the story? I was. Yes, I was. And I never thought I would be talking about politics. But how can we not? How did that change? I'm curious, when did it change for you that all of a sudden, you know, the love doc ends up talking about that? Well, you're the political doc now, too, to a certain extent.

Well, this is so interesting. I was on all the talk shows. And I remember years ago in New York, Joy Behar said, you know, the talk shows are going down because I was on every one of them. And she said, you know, to stay in the news, you really have to talk about politics. And I said, Joy, I am not a politician. I'm a healer. And I never in a million years figured I would do that.

But then I noticed what was happening to men, our men in our society, four times more likely to commit suicide than women. Testosterone going down. The white chromosome is thinning out. They're depressed. They're lonely. I said, I can't go on without talking about this. I had written one book called Don't Lie on Your Bellows. back for a guy who doesn't have yours when I was the love doc for MTV. And, you know, the women

kept calling me and saying, but I gave him everything and he still dumped me. And I said, that is the problem. You cannot give away your whole soul. But they weren't listening because I was telling them to not lie on their back for a guy who doesn't have their back. And yet, how could a guy have a guy have their back when the guy doesn't have their own back yeah and then i got i got really serious i said i have got to write about all the research i'm doing and all of the things that i am seeing so that's when it changed for me yeah i was reading another substack the other day yeah i forget who put it out there but it was kind of going down your theme and it was talking about how they broke the boys you know and did oh my god did they ever you know we have found

I am the spokesperson for the International Council for Men and Boys, and I am always being called upon to answer what has happened to our men. Well, men are behind women in 12 different arenas. We have PhDs doing this research, and this is what we've found. They're behind in health care. They're behind in domestic violence. They're behind in education. I mean, every single sector they are behind in.

And nobody's paid attention until, more recently, when we have seen men committing suicide. And then it's gone down to the boys committing suicide. And nobody could believe this. However, when I did a book signing, poor real men, don't go woke. The, we had, you know, we figured, okay, there'll be 10 people at the book signing, 20 people. This is what's typically at a book signing. Suddenly, I was mobbed with people. And when I told everybody that the suicide rates have climbed dramatically for men and for boys now, they looked at me like I had three heads.

And then the next day, after all the books sold out, everybody went home. to their families, blah, blah, blah. I got a phone call from one of the attendees. Her girlfriends, her best friend's son, had hung himself. He was only 13. She said, while you were talking about this, this happened in our own community. And this is something we have to look at. Why are they committing suicide?

Because they're being told they are toxic and they have to be woe. In other words, lose your spine, lose your voice. Don't speak up and just shut up, and we'll take care of you. That's not the way it goes. What do you think is the origin of that, Dr. Carl? Because, you know, I'm looking at, I look at woke, really, when it comes to what woke is. To me, it almost looks like what feminism looks like when you have an overabundance of feminist tendencies, and it's just what women do, you know, to a certain extent, because men and women are different.

We do have differences, Viva, a lot of difference. Thank God for that. Yes. Thank God for that. But woke is when men lose their sense of masculinity. And they're afraid to exercise masculinity today because they're told they're no good. They're going to be canceled. And they are in turn canceled, castrated, turned out, put out to pastor, as though they do not.

count. Yeah, but does that, but what is it in modern day culture that supports masculinity, though? What is it? What values it? I can't think of anything in the modern American culture today that actually has a place for men. Am I wrong? Well, because they have misconstrued being masculine with being toxic. That is such a misnomer. You know, a guy is not supposed to cry. That's what all the women are saying. He can't display his emotions. So what's he supposed to do with his emotions?

Hold them in, and I use it as an example in the book, Will Smith. He held in his negativity and his emotions and his anger for years until boom. The corp popped and he lost it when he slapped Chris Rock. Well, I've wanted to slap Chris Rock occasionally, too. But, you know, who has it? Well, you know, but you know what? The moment you raise your hand, then the argument is just over, forever. Right.

It's over. What we, as a civilized society, is supposed to be able to do, and I use Sun Su as a basis for all of my remarks in this book, we go to communication rather than combat. That is essential. don't raise fisticoff. But, you know, that's not the way I think men are wired, though. Well, there's toxic, and there's anger. I mean, we have to show a disconnect between the acting out angry vibe. Anger is a wonderful measurement for all of us.

It shows us something's not right. and we have to make some corrections. It's a normal process of being human. But the point that all of a sudden you're rioting and you're throwing things at people and ignoring humanity is toxic. But they, some people, many people and a lot of women have labeled just your ordinary guy

walking out the door in the morning, toxic because he's masculine. And that has no point. place in our society you know there is a movement that is called that is recognizing that young men are going their own way is what they're saying which means uh yeah going away from um going away from women which also means going away from family formation so we better figure this out and figure it out pretty quickly huh doctor oh i so agree with you yeah i i talk to men on ticot where there's a lot of men and a lot of them are have concealed identities

Zorro-1-2-3 is not exactly somebody I can say, oh, well, tell me about these issues. But they do talk, and they are revealing some very interesting things. They are angry. They are, suddenly, they become aware that women are after them for their wallet, not for their soul. And they're angry and they're upset. And a lot of men say, I don't want to be involved with a woman anymore. Well, that's not an answer. I am telling men today that there's a differentiation between real men and real women and the mean girls.

And what I am doing in my private practice is talking to men and having them differentiate between acceptable women in their lives and women who are not good for them, who are after only the material from them, do for me, give to me, and I don't have to put out. at all. I don't have to give you anything. Just serve me. And that is not realistic. Dr. Gilda Carl once again. And she's with the spokesperson for the International Council for Men and Boys, rather, author of Real Men Don't Go Woke, the book they would not publish. The truth that must be told. We'll put your information up here, Doctor. You know, not only is this, not only is this a cultural issue that you're talking about, but it has more than leaked into politics. And in fact, I wanted to get your opinion on what had happened with all of these recent big GOP election results

because it comes right down to it because it's well known that men tend to be much heavier supporters, rather, of the GOP, than women, even at this point in time. Not saying women don't, but it's kind of like the Democrats or, you know, the female party and Republicans, the boy party, so to speak. Mm-hmm. That's what has happened. And unfortunately, well, we watched Trump. This was a magnificent win for him. And how did he do this?

He used these innovative strategies, podcasts and Elon Musk and targeting men with registration, voter registration drives. And they were preserving positive masculinity. He won on that. He won the male vote. Up until now, until that time, we did not see a male voter the way we saw a male voter with him. But what has happened, I think Republicans got lazy, got very comfortable, and they ignored the male voter. And then we saw 84% of women under 30 voted for Mom Donnie as the mayor of New York City.

I don't know where this is going, but apparently women bought the Mangami smile, the characterization that everything is going to come to them for free, really? And it's interesting to me because as I look upon this situation, women are the ones who are looking at many women, and I'm not saying all women, but many women were looking at men as the providers and the gifts. and the walking wallet. Well, even if he is giving, well, even if he is giving the money from someone else's wallet, right? Speaking of Mom Donnie. Yeah, right.

Well, that's, we will see how successful that works. Because nothing, you know, you and I are mature enough to recognize that. Nothing in life is free. Everything has a price. And if these people think that they're just

going to lie back and eat grapes, well, Mom Donnie gives them whatever they want, they are going to be very surprised. But doesn't that play into the way that women are naturally wired? And when I say naturally wired, women, if you were to compare women and men on a basic, I think you would agree with me that men were generally more risk takers and women were generally more risk-averse. And you can understand why, you know, why white people would be that way.

Doesn't that naturally flow into the makeup? Well, it does if it's not extreme. I mean, everybody understands the hunter-gatherer and how the women contribute something to the household. Right. But a lot of the young women today are saying, I don't want kids, I don't want family, just do for me, give to me, take care of me, without any retribution to the guys who are, are breaking their behind trying to make a living and trying to satisfy these women who are impossible to be satisfied. And then at that point, then, we have more women that, or fewer women that want to have children.

Men want to have children now. I find that very, that's a fascinating thing because that's a big change, isn't it? It's fascinating. I'm so agree with you. Yes, it's so interesting. But the young men see the value in having a family in having their priorities, in having their progeny and raising children, the young women don't want to do that. They just want to be taken care of without contributing anything. That's not the way life works. Does social media have any

influence on this kind of behavior? Social media has everything to do with everything. I saw this post on Instagram, and this woman said, oh, the male suicide rates are so high. and another woman chimed in, they're not high enough. That was bad enough. 7,000 women also liked that post. Wow. Boy, that's kind of like taking that old seeing that a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle to an extreme, huh?

You got that right? But 7,000 women, the people at the International Council for men and boys did not believe. leave it after I found that. They said, oh, let us see that. And they couldn't believe it. They just couldn't believe. 7,000 women want men dead. And they're vocalizing this. And they're talking about it with such animosity. Oh, and they vote. And they vote. Oh, good grief. Yes, and they vote. They're empty. These women are empty, and the men are hurting. I'm sorry, but this is what is going on today. What would you suggest then as far as a way to, to heal the nation, so to speak? You know, this is a, this is a big, big problem. It took a long time to get here,

Dr. Carl. I think it did. I'm so glad you asked that question. What did it take to get here? We are now seeing the remnants of the men left behind. And they are, they're just lagging behind everything because they've given up, not unlike what we've seen with the Republicans, giving up thinking that they can float on their laurels on their past, on their, on their past wins as they did with the Trump election. And I think they have forgotten that they cannot sit around without continuing their aggression to win elections. It's that simple.

Have all of these Republicans gone woke? The Republican men? Oh, yeah, they'll take care of it. I don't have to do anything. Sure. Trump won. Okay, we know we can win again. By what?

You have to have effort in there. Is part of the way of not going that woke way, almost the way President Trump interacted with Mamdani the other day when, And remember when they were asking him if, well, is he still a fascist? Remember when one of the reporters asked him? Is he a fascist? And then Trump said, just go ahead, call me. I've been called worse than that.

It's easy if you just call me that. And, you know, it's kind of like, I don't care, right? What do you think? Is that the attitude to take, that sort of deal for everyone? My origins are from New York, so I know Donald Trump and I've seen him ascend. and I know he is, he's funny, he has a great sense of humor. Absolutely. And at this point in his life, names don't mean anything to him.

He wants to see action. And if you provide action and success, then he's all in. But he, his meeting with Mom Donnie, I thought was the most brilliant choreography. I was thinking he played him like a violin, the proverbial. violent. Like a violin. Of course, Mandani ran back afterwards and said, oh, yeah, I think he is fascist.

Oh, yeah, I think he is a desk butt. Oh, the Democratic Socialists of America are p-oed at him right now, though. You went to see Hitler, right? They sure are. But, you know, a lot of Republicans were pissed off at Donald Trump also. Because he didn't meet with him. Well, the other part about this is that it kind of

blows the midterm election strategy, right? You know, oh, my gosh. You got together and you're paling around with her, right? You kind of pulled a rug out from underneath him, I guess. Right, exactly, exactly. You know, I think there is a part in our culture that loves to see fighting, continuing and continuing and continuing. What Donald did by setting up this meeting together with his arch enemy is he let him know.

Yeah, I'll back you. But you watch the steps, and they got, they did a lot of work before they met the public. They got a lot done. And I think Mom Donnie had understood that he is not in charge. It is ultimately the president of the United States, who is. So what that looked like, I mean, just from the visuals, was Donald sat there and health corps. and Mom Donnie was his little fight who was going and doing what he promised his base, but how much of that he's able to accomplish is still up to the big boss.

Oh, yeah. And I think Donald Trump made that very clear to him. The other aspect of Donald Trump, you know, watching that, it kind of struck me as far as Donald Trump's personality, President Trump's personality, is that I think President Trump actually enjoys a little bit of getting together with people who actually openly defy and oppose him, right? You know, rather than if Mom Donnie had come in there and kissed his butt, he wouldn't have respected that, I don't think. Right, right. Well, his whole thing is I am going to play chess and I am going to win because I know what I am doing. doing and I know how to move these knights and these kings and I can move them all as I

choose and I know I'm ultimately in charge just his his the way he walks the way he talks and the way he stepped everybody into his foals and then says and this is the way things are going to go if he had not been successful we would not see all these crazy murderous leaders of other countries coming in to see Donald, they are all coming in to kiss the ring. Why is that? Because they want to be part of a very special union that Donald Trump had. So I think there's just, okay, I guess we're out of time. No, no, no, we're not, that's okay. I'll get another minute here. No, I'm with you on this. What I'm curious about, though, is, you know, we can't all be President Trump, though.

And so, you know, President Trump, of course, grew up in a relatively gilded cage to a certain extent, you know, so they're, you know. Well, he did and he didn't. He came from Queens. Queens is, look, I grew up in New York. I know the arena. And Queens is not exactly Manhattan. It's Queens. And he had to fight. He had to fight off the mafia who wanted a piece of his access. had to fight he had to be a street fighter and yet he had the money and he had the fame and he was all over the media having his he was on on tv at the same time that i was on tv so we knew each other and um it all the people who were on tv at that time knew each other and we watched him and he was as much entertainer as he is politician and he and he also how he used to word. And he also understands people, too. I think that's something I do admire about him.

But, you know, and that's great for Donald. And, you know, his strategy is fine for his strategy. For the overall cultural challenge, then, how do you, though, lift up the other boys of the world or get them to the point where we're back to a more balance between the sexes at this point where we can meet on the ground of respect on both sides of this, huh? I deliberately hit that question in real men don't go woke. The answer is in women, giving men the space where they can express themselves without being put down, cut out, canceled, and all the rest. We women have got to provide safe spaces so men are not fearful of opening their mouths and speaking from the heart about how they really feel. feel. My book has made major changes in men, one man, a PhD who had been fired for speaking out, said to me, thank you so much, Dr. Gilda, for speaking because I can't. Now, how is this in 2025? How is this possible that men who are bright and contributing to society

feel that they can't speak what is really in their heart? Well, I think I know what is dangerous. But you well know, though, that academia is dominantly female. Most of the corporate America is getting to the point where it's dominant. Yeah, college education, getting the college world. Lagging behind it. That's absolutely right. So is it, so is it any wonder, though, that a guy feels that I can't talk here. There's no way, you know, I'll be shouted down. Yeah. Well, that's the thing. I want to hold on to my job. I want to hold on to my paycheck and I want to be able to support my family. Sure. So I'm going to shut up. But what does that do to a human being? Look, you're feeling, everybody has feelings. You either act things out like a real toxic

maniac, like the P. Diddy's or Weinstein or those people, or you communicate. Or you act things in and you internalize. And that's when you look inside yourself. and you find, I am so depressed, I am so lonely, and this is where we are headed with our rising suicide rates for men. Four times more likely than it is for women to commit suicide. Something is definitely wrong. Let men speak. It's okay if we don't agree.

Let men speak, and we talk out our differences. Maybe that's the emphasis, though. Do you mean? Yeah, cashing that out. and I appreciate you so much coming on talking about this. It's Real Men Don't Go Woke, the book they would not publish, The Truth It Must Be Told, and it's by Dr. Gilda Carl, Ph.D. Now, the International Council for Men and Boys, that's, let's see, I think that website is

men and boys.net where you can find out more about that agenda with some suggestions. Do you have a main website, too, for your own practice? Yes, Dr.gilda.com. All right. R-G-I-L-D-A.com. A pleasure talking with you. I appreciate that. I agree.

What a wonderful conversation. Thank you so much. Be blessed. Thank you very much, Dr. Gilda Carl. Be well. It is a couple minutes before seven. This is KM-E-D, K-M-E-D-H-D-M-E-D-H-M-E-G-H-B-G-G-E-G-G-E-G. This is the Bill Myers Show on 1063 KMED.

All right, we're going to check Fox News here in just a moment. Catch up with a few other things with Hannity. And then Captain Bill Simpson. We're going to talk a little bit more. He's part of a documentary now, The Wild Horses. And that song he was talking about that we played last week, Copco Road, it's now zooming. It's becoming incredibly popular, and he's put out an album.

He was putting out an album, raising money for the wild horses and various other things. It was touch in with him a little bit. Now, tomorrow we're going to have at about this time, 710, Mr. Outdoors, it's going to be the special Thanksgiving Day, you know, pre- Thanksgiving Day edition. We'll talk about everything else, although the weather down here is relatively mild. It doesn't seem like it's going to be a particularly big dramatic travel time for us, except when you're going up north, it'll get a lot rainier. But we're going to have to talk about this with Greg tomorrow. the FBI has released Bigfoot's official file just came out. Yesterday they released this.

And the FBI's Freedom of Information Volt ended up just spitting this out. It's a 22-page Bigfoot file documenting the 1976 to 1977 exchanges prompted by media coverage of the evidence of Sasquatch. So they were all getting into it then. and Oregon's Bigfoot Information Center sent around 15 hairs on a piece of skin to the FBI and so the FBI tested the sample they said it was from the Deer family but of course the Bigfoot people are not buying this

but yeah article today on Popular Mechanics.com the Bigfoot official file no doubt Mr. Bigfoot himself Greg will have a lot to say about that tomorrow all right we'll catch up on the national here just a bit had any update and then Captain Bill joins me of you too.