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Episode Date: December 5, 2025

From License Plate Readers to global conspiracies, it is all open phone calls and conversation for Conspiracy Theory Thursday.

The Bill Myers Show podcast is sponsored by Klausur drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausor drilling.com. That's 770 KMED. The bulk of our calls coming up after the news break and more about that. Yeah, well, it takes a quick ones if you don't mind. 8 o'clock at KMED, KMED, HD1, Eagle Point, Medford, KVXC grants pass. Boy, that was an interesting talk with recourse systems.

Hmm. So surveillance, license plate readers. that anonymize the data, the data rather, and encrypted. Of course, there's a part of it still wonders, just because we can have license plate readers, should we have license plate readers? Maybe we can talk about that. This is Conspiracy Theory Thursday, after all.

And what is something else we can go? Oh, yeah, they supposedly have caught the pipe bomb suspect. I don't know if I believe that. I don't know if I really believe it. It's Conspiracy Theory Thursday. So, okay, maybe they caught the Patsy, or did we find, did we find the Patsy that after all these years just magically appeared? I don't know, it could be. It could be, sometimes I am so cynical.

Everything that gets reported in the news, it's kind of like you've got to run it through the Bolstein detector and let it stew a little bit, and then maybe the truth comes out. Hello there, Crazy Gene. You're a perfect person to start off open phones on conspiracy theory Thursday. Thank you for the compliment. My God, it makes my day. I'm glad your chest swells with pride. Let's hear it. Yeah, I call up.

Have you ever heard about the Archons and the Demiurge? No, I can't say I am. I'm not too much into that stuff. You should be. Why? It's very important that you are. But anyway, the Demiurge is a God who is, well, very substantive as far as as intelligence level and his ability to do right.

and the Archons are his servants. And they, well, they enslave us, and they feed off it. They feed off lower emotions. Oh, is this the Edina Chrome theory that the Alex Jones folks that always talk about? Well, that's probably close to that, yeah. Oh, okay. Well, and that's the case we need to watch more comedy. All right?

If we watch more comedy and we're laughing more, then they have nothing to feed off of us. How about that for a policy? Well, if we could laugh, but how many of us are laughing with the economy collapsing? Okay. Shut up. I'm just kidding, all right? Yeah. I always keep a copy of Airplane, the movie, from 1980, just for that reason.

So I just need to laugh, silly. That way, there's no adenachrome to feed off of me from the Archons or the Jason and the Argonauts or whoever that is. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome. This is Minor Dave. All right, Dave, take it away. Before I get into my conspiracy, I'm going to make you laugh.

Okay. A fisherman calls his wife at home and says, I'm coming home with the case of the crabs. Okay. Is that a dad joke or not? Well, it's not really a dad joke. It's not like a knock-knock joke or whatever. Okay, well, how about me? I'll give you a dad joke, okay?

What do sea monsters eat, minor Dave? Seamen. I know. Fish and ships. Fish and ships, get it? Fish and chips. All right, yeah. All right, go ahead.

Now, my conspiracy theory is I went into my doctor's office, as far as I know, I don't have a copay with them. But when I went to pick up some inhaler from my emphysema, all of a sudden there was a copay when I'm not supposed to have a copay because I have the federal drug card for, that, and then I've got a car, the state insurance, they call it the partnership here. Yeah. In California, sure. Okay. So you had to pay a copay. You're not supposed to pay a copay.

And why is this important? Well, it's important because I'm not supposed to pay it because I don't have enough to be a matter. Do I buy the drug or I get food? Oh, okay. Boy, maybe it's because they know you're going to be. Maybe it's because they know you're going for a pardon now from President Trump, and they want to, maybe they just want you to go on.

Yeah. Who knows? Yeah. How about that for a theory? By the way, we're still working on your pardon stuff. Other people are doing it too, okay? We haven't forgotten about you. Well, I appreciate that.

All right. Thank you, Minor Day. Your phone's cutting out a bit here. If you're on hold, give me a minute. I'll get right to your call here. 7705-633. It's a wild time. We're wrapping up the year, getting here the last three weeks of it.

conspiracy theory Thursday 770 KMED. We've heard it all. That boulder was hidden in the grass. Monday Saturday. Here, KMED and Krantz Pass on 1059, K290AF, Rogue River in South Jackson County on 1067 K2994 ASHland. Yep, this is when I'm live without a met, and it is Conspiracy Theory Thursday called Open Phone Conversation on just about anything on your mind. And Vicky's here. Vicky, you were reporting a. wolf attack. I'm probably going to be talking more about that tomorrow with Mr. Outdoors because I kind of had him call you. Did he get, you can get in touch with Greg? You just talk about that

a bit? We had a wonderful conversation and thank you so much for putting me in contact with him. He is awesome. Great. And how's your goat doing the one that was attacked? Well, as of yesterday, he's still with us. He is still touch and go, you know, but he's, seems to be, he's a tough little goat, and he's holding on, but I just wanted to let everyone know that we did have the fishing game officers come up yesterday. They did an assessment. They believe it was coyotes. Then we had an ODF officer come up and take pictures of rootbears injuries, although it's

been four days, so they've closed up a lot compared to what they look like last Sunday. And his conclusion was that it was coyotes, too. So they're thinking coyotes, not wolves. Oh, okay. A hybrid dog, you know, with wolf in it. I guess my conspiracy is that we, you know, have been outdoors people all our lives, well, not my life, but most of my life and my husband has been, you know, would be all his life.

And we still believe that it could have been wolves. And there was a website that you can go on when you ask Google wolf packs in Applegate, Oregon, the valley. And it comes back and we have, Grouse Creek isn't too far from us, but I guess the grouse pack is outside of Butte Falls, but it also said that there are. activity in the Applegate area. You know, Vicki, I think an interesting way of looking at that conspiracy, and like I said, this is just conjecture on my part, but you know how it's like during COVID, no matter what happened, you know, somebody had a reaction to something, whatever it was, it was never the vaccine, and so maybe authorities are kind of primed to, gosh, you know, no matter the way

it looks, well, it's coyotes, or a wild dog, it's never a wolf. I don't know, maybe that's... Right, and I think part of that, I think you're absolutely right. I think it would be, like, major panic if, especially people that live out here, know that wolves are, you know, running amok. Yeah, yeah, wolves in bunkum, you know, essentially that's it. Hey, keep us in the room there. I'll talk more about that with Greg tomorrow on tomorrow's show, okay? All right?

Yeah, well, make sure you thank him for me. I think we just had a wonderful conversation, and we talked about pretty much everything under the sun, and I just really enjoyed it. All right, I'm glad you did. Thanks so much, Vicki. Vicki from the Applegate, Bunkum area. And let us continue here. And so I knew he was actually here this time, so I had the Brad theme, our little Slovenian polka. What are you thinking there?

Hey, a couple of things. First of all, I really enjoyed one of your interactions with the guy that follows license plates. Oh, you talk about the guy with a license plate, or do you like Dr. Fruit? I forget. Yeah. You know a way to solve that. What's that? Duct tape on your license plate.

Works for a while until you're pulled over by the cops, right? But on a serious note, thank God for radio. Radio is my lifeline to at least keeping somewhat knowledgeable. But the reason it called, it's a sad stat, but I've checked it twice. there there's been a national study on feasibility of real estate investment on the commercial level and they measured 81 cities in the nation you know where portland landed 81 80 80 80 okay so one above next to the bottom what was the bottom city i'm just curious do you remember you know i that's a great question though i i didn't get that

data. But point being, I talked about my brother-in-law as a real estate expert does a lot of consulting. And he says it's bad in Portland. Real estate values are nose diving. And it is sort of a, well, it's a self-reinforcing kind of trend. You know, one company leaves and then another one leaves because, you know, the vitality is drained from the community, from the area. It is no, the juice is gone. Interesting, as we analyze this, there's a direct correlation between liberal management and economic success. And it does appear that is the case.

Thank you, Brad. Good hearing from you, 770KMED. Kim Commandos Digital Update coming up at first, Logan, hey, Logan? What are you saying? Hey, Bill, I live over here off of Columbus in the ghetto, and we have, I believe, the high highest concentration of those flock cameras are over here in this area. Actually, right off Columbus. I happened to ride, it was riding my bicycle by,

where the guy was putting one up yesterday. Someone had mentioned they never see him, doing it in the darks the night. He was putting one up, but it wasn't yesterday, last week, during the day. And as I rode by, I said, stop working for the devil, you know, but it's a, I don't know if someone's brought this up yet, but I just want to bring up one day, a real famous man said this, I won't say who, but it says that those, Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. So we need to stand up and fight back against this.

I encourage people to show up at Medford City Council meetings next week. The Jackson County Commissioners meeting show up Wednesday morning. Let them know. Now, how many of these are in Jackson County property, though, because I think most of it is actually in the city of Medford when I was looking on the flock map? That's correct. The majority are in the city of Mefford. I know for a fact, the one they first put up in Mefford, the very first one I've seen up, a couple years ago off of Columbus. It's approximately at Columbus and almost to Jackson Street. You'll see it on if you're heading south on the right side there. And then they just install a new one right there at that intersection, right by the Santos Center. And then on the other end of Columbus, by Stewart, you come up just a block near Mount Pitt, Winchester Street. and there's one on the left side of the street. They're all over this area. And the bottom line is, you know, I get it.

If I was a police officer, if I, for instance, I know they use this technology in many areas to catch murderers, kidnappers, and everything. And it's a great, it's a great tool for that. But when is enough enough? I mean, I don't know if people have seen these movies Minority Report. It talks about, you know, a thought crime. You know, where are we going to go with this? How, when, when does it stop?

You know, are we, why don't we just, if we just want safety, why don't we all just walk around with a camera on us that just feed up to the, up to the satellites, you know, so then they can see what's going on everywhere, of course, I guess we all have a phone in her pocket, so maybe I got a little ahead of myself there, but. Yeah, yeah, I would say, oh, wait, in response to that, a point well taken. We'll see what they think here, because it would, it would require the citizen. rate to say we choose not to, all right? We choose not to. And, and yeah, you'll get pushed back from law enforcement, no doubt. 7705-633. And call in, it's open phones, anything it happens

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Let's hear it. Go ahead. Yes, that and virtually. Okay. So on the autoimmune, just how much money we're spending on two different drugs for people with autoimmune disorders. Gee, I wouldn't even know where to guess, but I'll just say in the billions. How about that? 13 trillion, Bill.

13 trillion? Trillion. Are you sure about that? It costs 13 trillion. My gosh, we're only, I think, GDP. is, uh, is, I know, well, I think that's worldwide, but, oh, you're talking worldwide. Okay, which drug is that, by the way? I think that's worldwide, but I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I would check the math. It sounds, it sounds a little high, but I'll, I'll, I'll just go with you for

right now, okay? It comes from Dr. Anthony Shafee, and it turns out he had a client that was a, um, their patient that was, um, Esmo, and she could not eat anything but meat. or she would have seizures. And so she was doing spices, and he said, well, why don't you try just eliminating the spices and see what happens? Within one month, four autoimmune disorders all disappeared. And so, you know, he teaches because what he was taught, even the Salisbury steak and other reports, plants really don't want to be eaten.

They do not. They put out poisons so that they kill off those things that are eating them. It does make a lot of sense. That kind of goes into, though, the blood. Did you ever read the blood type diet, Lucretia? Yes, but that's not real. I don't know. I think there's a lot to be said.

No, I think there's something there that, you know, the blood types did evolve as food sources ended up changing. And that's why they even say, If you have type A blood as an example, you're not really great or suited for meat eating because of low stomach acid and you're really more built for being a vegetarian as an example. Now, I'm type O. I'm supposed to be like the eat meat eater and no carbs. What about you? Absolutely.

No, the more we do the carbs, even so many women that are sterile and have to try to go get, you know, to help to get pregnant. It's from the carbs they're eating. It just, the insulin actually causes the blockage of fertility markers. All right. All right. Now, I don't have forever a lot of time, so I make sure, I want to get to your bird flu thing, and then I got to go, okay?

So the bird flu, yeah. I want everybody to remember, virus means poison. Virus means poison. That's exactly what it means. Poison, systole, and the cell breaks down. It forms these what they are calling viruses, but it's a cell that's been broken down. Anyway, it means poisoned. When I used to fly back and forth to Hawaii, you could see the ocean all the time.

After 2011 and 2010, 9, I was noticing there was always a fog over the ocean. It was just like, where's this fog coming from? You couldn't even see the land flying from, you know, San Francisco into Medford. What do you think it is here? Quickly, please. Well, what David Keith says they're going to spray is. is carbon monoxide, and, yes, it would cause all these extra lung deaths and for people and plants and it's bad on trees.

And I see the sky is just being weaponized with this weird fog, you know. Well, I'll tell you what, now, I would look at that sky and probably think that it was a marine layer of fog, but I might be silly here, that's all. Yeah. Okay. Thank you for the call, Lucretia. 770KMED.

Let me go to, when we got that. It's Brother Brad. Hello, Brad. How are you doing this morning? A different brand. Yeah, Brad, number two. Bill, good morning to you, a great, great segment with your economist about the collapse of Portland. Yeah, Eric Fruits knows his stuff, even though the Democrats don't like to read his stuff, because it goes against the ideology, the state religion.

But please continue. Right. All right. Nobody wants to hear you tell them that their policies are killing the patient. Nobody wants to hear that. It's not, yeah. Portland is literally the, I mean, it's the source of infection that's killing the rest of the state, and we've got a really good example that just got published with the closing of the imminent closing,

or well, they're calling it a transition of the hospital in Ashland. So this hospital has been in business serving the people of Ashland since the early 1900s. But in the article, if you read it, the CEO, he says they lost. millions in the last year. Now, think about it. This is a town that only has 20,000 people in it, and they lost millions in this hospital. But later in the article, he explains why. It's legislative impacts that have been implemented, and they're reading the T leaves. They're saying, you know, this isn't going to be getting any better for a while, and they're doing triage. Here's something that a lot of people don't know. One of the most important services at this

hospital provides our services for birthing and mothers. Yeah, the birth center is closing. And they just had to do the same thing over in Baker City and Baker County clear on the other side of the state. And what that means for those mothers over there, Bill, is now the closest services that they have for birthing and OBGYN are in LaGrand, 45 minutes north. And can you imagine making a 45-minute trip in the wintertime in eastern Oregon, with a pregnant woman that needs to have a baby.

Can you even imagine that? Now, here, you know, the problems, though, with Ashland Hospital, with Asante, with Providence, though, are, well, it's very complex, all right? But you want to know, if you were going to focus on one thing, though, it's that our economy does not produce enough wealth to be able to have people pay their, their, medical costs. It does not produce the wealth. And this is like state policy. There are greater economic, macroeconomic forces in play. I was

doing some research because I read that article this morning. And I've been talking about how Asante and Providence of course has certainly been circling the drain. We've known about this. They're still losing money. All we're talking about with Providence as an example is how much less money might be lost at a particular

quarter. You're familiar with those stories, right? You've been keeping track on this. No doubt. But what we're looking at here is that the vast majority of people in Southern Oregon are on government health care in one form or another. And I was looking up the stats on this one. Jackson County has 42% of its residents on OHP, on Oregon health care, all right? Josephine County, 45, 48%, almost half are on the Oregon Health Plan. all right then when you add in medicare this is medicare i'm talking about the you know the federal medicare you have uh let's see 23% in jackson county and 28% in josephine county that are on

medicare you add those two together in jackson county about two out of every three people brad are on government health care and in josephine county about three out of four people are on government health care. And why does this cause a problem? Well, because Medicare pays the hospitals usually just about break even, maybe break even on a service, maybe a little bit less, that sort of thing. Oregon Health Plan pays about 60 to 70 percent tops. Everyone, the majority of the people that are getting medical care here in Jackson and Josephine County, Brad, they make the doctors and the hospitals, they lose money on them. And so if you are maybe that one-third or one-fourth in Josephine County who are working

and are getting their medical care through private insurance or employer-provided insurance, we're being hosed and overcharged massively to try to make up for the two out of three or three out of four people that they lose money on every time. And that's why, you know, it's like you try to get a private insurance program here in Oregon and you'll pay $1,200 a month. And it's because they lose money on the state stuff.

The reimbursements are ridiculous. And we're not making enough wealth to actually pay for stuff. We have a lot of people that are riding, A lot of people are riding in the back of the health care wagon, and only a few people, one out of three people in Jackson, one out of four in Josephine County, are actually pulling the wagon and paying, okay? Those numbers are stunning. Those numbers are stunning. They are. Well, it's an economic policy.

This is practically economic policy, and it's not just us. There are places out in eastern Oregon that more than 50% of the people are on OHB. And remember, it loses money on every patient going into a hospital, so it's got to be made up someplace. There we go. Yeah. Well, Tom Gessel, the CEO of Asante, addressing this, he says, this is only going to worsen with further reductions to Medicaid funding, which is what you just talked about. Right. And he says, with smaller communities like ours, he said, these are the changes that we have to make.

Now, can you tell me that Tena Kotech and the people that are in controlling authority, which is definitely, Democrats in Oregon. That is the Democrats in Oregon. Remember the whole state policies that we're supposed to go to state-provided health care. They're not paying Oregon Health Plan stuff on time and or properly. People lose money on their patients. They don't want to take them. What's it going to be like with everybody on OHP? What do you think? Oh, my God. It's going to be a disaster. And in that article, this is a quote, he says, legislation implemented in Salem has put

hospitals in an untenable situation. That's a quote. That's a direct quote from him. And you're right. Measure 111, which nobody talks about anymore, measure 11 expands health care to everybody that makes their way inside the state of Oregon, citizen or not. You're exactly right. It's going to be a disaster. Yeah. So think about this stuff, folks. But ultimately, at the heart of it, our area, and the state of Oregon doesn't produce enough wealth to be able to pay for this. So, Where's it going to go? Let me go to... Got you know, I may have lost Gino.

Gino, please call back in. I'd love to get your call there. Thanks for the call here, Brad. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Hello. Hello. Hi.

This is Sam Carl. Have you been a good boy? No, I've been a very bad boy. In fact, give me some call on my stocking because the coal will at least keep me warm. Hi, honey. It's Cherry. I knew it was you, Cherry. You don't fool me.

What's up? You did? Oh, no. No, that's not good. All right. Anyway, okay, so you've got to see the materialist. It's such a good movie. There's no heads that get lopped off, no legs that get put in a refrigerator.

Oh, come on. If someone's not getting killed by a sniper, Linda and I are not in favor of this. I mean, there's nothing to see. No, it's really a good movie. It's got Chris Evans, who's Captain America, and Dakota Johnson, who's the daughter of Don Johnson and Melanie Griffith. And it's kind of a love story, but it's very good. She's a matchmaker.

Oh. Single. All right. Well, any movie that's actually trying to celebrate family formation, I have to say then, I got to watch that. The Materialist, again, right? Yes. The material, yes.

Now, listen, there's one other series you've got to watch. It is not, it is very, very. intense, called the mayor of Kingstown. I see that one always being pushed, but you like it? Oh, my God. That is such, I think that's the best prison series I've ever seen, and it's got Edie Falco in it now. All right, I'll take a look, but I'm usually not a fan of prison drama,

but I'll get back to you on that. Cherry, Merry Christmas, if I don't talk to you in another day or so, but keep it up, okay? All righty. 770563 open phones like I said it's all over the place on conspiracy theory Thursday Steve before the news break I'll get to you and then we'll get more people's calls on hi Steve okay just a quick one you've covered two main stories one is the collapse of the state of Oregon and the other is the cameras and they're related because the companies that put

the cameras up are private companies and they pay the police department to be able to have them up. So that's one reason why they're so prolific. Hmm. They essentially get put up at no cost. That's right. And the camera companies get a piece of whatever action the cameras developed. Now, you know, I guess the question I should have for the RICO guy then was how does he get paid if everything is all encrypted so it's more privatized. I wonder how they get paid then. Good question. Thanks, Bill. All right. Thank you, Steve, for that. 770 KMED. It is open phones. Have added on Conspiracy Theory Thursday. Completed Electric Plus completes all those

electrical jobs. News Talk 1063, KMED. This is the Bill Myers Show. Hey, it's all comers. Open phones on conspiracy theory Thursday. Always interesting. And let's go to, hey, Chris, you had an interesting thing you were responding to something I was saying this morning about, I guess, the propaganda from Pacific Corps. Go ahead. Well, I want to know what that was all about, but I had my own inroads in that conversation. I mean, it seems like not putting you on spot, it seems like you could say lesbian on the air,

but you can't say lesbian to someone in the community. Oh, okay, well, that was just me just engaging in a little opinion, though, but it appeared to be a, this is about Pacific power wanting to hand over control of your air conditioner, and so they ended up looking, it looked like a happy lesbian couple on the front of it, enjoying winter. But I could be misinterpreting it. But that is sort of the power structure of Oregon, though, isn't it? Yeah, well, that, yeah, from the governor down, but see, I engage a little opinion of my own at the, at the Rogue Community Center, because I volunteered, and then I decided to withdraw my volunteering because of the face of the organization,

in my opinion was lesbian. I don't like that stuff thrown in my face, but they want to rub your nose in it, and you're supposed to, like, willingly accept it. You know, kubaya. Oh, okay, well, the reality is that, you know, lesbians do exist, though. When you talk about, you know, in your face,

what did you say, did you go into the center and then say, hey, I don't want Dykes here? I mean, what, you know? What did you do? No, you just talk to someone, and it's the whole me-to, movement, you know, they just, when they address, when a woman addresses you that you know that's a lesbian, you don't even have to ask. You know, the way they talk to you, the way they

look, all the telltale signs, you know, it's just like, okay, well, they don't like men. Okay, well, all right, why were you thrown out, though? Or I guess you said, we're telling me off air that you were tossed out or, you know, asked not to come back. So I'm wondering if you were being impolite about it, that's all. told not to come back ever okay so they don't want you volunteering why what why why did they not want you volunteering no I decided at that moment the face of the organization I wasn't willing to work with it wasn't my type of people so I decided to

oh you took yourself out of it then is what you're saying well she even she even I showed up for my appointment she uh she threw the appointment just that I can't be there for whatever reason, so she just stood me up. And I said, well, no, I guess I'm not going to volunteer and not for that kind. All right. Well, I guess that you know who can, well, you know who owns the system right now here, Chris, when you're being told in the system that you cannot criticize that, okay? All right. Thanks for the call. I don't know if I can help you on that. 770563 let me go to Michael Michael you wanted to talk about the re-evaluation or revaluing of strategic assets what are you thinking go ahead well the last time they re-evaluated treasury re-evaluated

gold was uh he was in the 40s but it was uh right now they have it evaluated at 46 and something since an ounce yeah that's what it is on the on the books right now the United States books Eventually, they're going to re-evaluate that. They're staying up to $20,000. But Bitcoin is the other one I was going to talk about. They have $198,000 Bitcoin. They plan to purchase up to a million.

Who's that? Who is they? Who's they? The Treasury. Oh, Treasury owns a lot of Bitcoin. Okay, I was not aware of that particular thing. All right. From forfeitures only at $198,000 and have.

Oh, that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. You do some financial crimes or whatever it is, and then they seize the Bitcoin. Okay. All right. That makes sense. Well, the plan is to get up to about a million Bitcoin and then reevaluate Bitcoin to add a million dollars. Hmm. So that way, is it one of those things where instant reduction of the debt or there's an asset technically? Actually, yeah, you're dumping all the debt onto the rest of the world, I guess. Huh. Um, that's what people are complaining about long, uh. Now, you were talking about gold. Gold's at about 4,200 right now. And you're saying the plan, in your opinion, is to go to what?

What did you say? I don't know exactly, but there, somebody was throwing out the $20,000 an ounce. Ooh, man, I got to tell you. It doesn't pay all the debt, but it does bring it down to where, uh, it, uh, it restores the credit value or whatever they say. Yeah, a revaluation is strategic. Maybe that's what's going on a bit here, huh? Maybe this is also why there's such a talk on reopening or really getting mining into high gear. I was wondering if maybe Matt would know more about that.

He seems to be more on the financial side of things or maybe the gold buyer guy. All right. Well, I will reach out to them both, okay? It might be worth a talk there, Michael. Appreciate the call. Dawn is here, too. Dawn, you wanted to talk about the overreach of government. Good morning.

Yes, hi, Bill. About a year ago, you had a guest on your show, Gianna Maselli, of Inalienable University. Yes. I joined the university, and it did wonders for me. There's got to be a way we've got to take back our power. And part of that is through we've become enslaved through contract law and licensing. So basically the business licenses, when COVID shut everybody down, it's through the business licenses. and police have jurisdiction over you through your driver's license.

So all these licensing, you've given up your power through these licenses. I mean, there's a need for them, but there's overreach. Imagine 10 years, 20 years from now, when AI, artificial intelligence, they can access your bank accounts and know exactly what you should be reporting for taxation. I mean, that's going to be a living nightmare. So. Yeah, boy, it'd be a nightmare for the accountants, too. wouldn't be much of a need then, would there?

No, there wouldn't. So, I mean, the state just, they do all these things that, like, a lot of us don't approve of, making swide walks in Medford and everything else they do. What would you suggest then? Because that's why, you know, I try to implore people to, you know, to get involved here at the local issue, because so many of the things that come down here, yeah, they may be from state and or federal policy, but it's your local councils. that end up taking the grants.

It's your local councils, which end up saying, yeah, we're going to decarbonize downtown. It's your local councils who end up coming up with the insane plans like the main street plan that now we're going to have to probably change it back at some point. So what would you suggest? 15-minute cities by 2040. Yeah. Well, that's part of Medford Vision 2040.

All the other cities have pretty much the same kind of vision plan, too, to an extent, or less. So what would you suggest? I suggest joining an illegal university if you want to get out of the tax racket. I had an inheritance, and I paid zero tax on it. And I probably just put a target on my back. I would like other people to uninslave themselves as well. Her university is now called legal fockery.

She had some reorganization, but she still offers the same an enslavement technique. Now, is this one of those things? because I only talk to her one time, Dawn. Okay, so I've not, you know, explored this any, you know, any, any more deeply, all right? Is it one of these people, is it one of these people, is it one of these, like, sovereign citizen movements, like you tell the cops, you have no authority over me as they have been pistol whip you and drag you out of the car. No, no. In fact, in fact, she teaches against doing this stuff. Sovereign citizen police means I'm a domestic terrorist that's worthy of death.

But that's what they've turned sovereign citizenry into it. No, she does not endorse that at all. Oh, okay. That's good. This is all constitution-based. Our administrative laws are out of control. They're way too many, and we need to take back our power, and that's through the contract law, where you signed away you're right.

All right. So you like that, then. What was the website again for Gina's something? She is now legalfockery.com. How do you spell that? legal L-E-G-A-L O'-H-O-C-E-R-Y

Oh, okay, all right I just want to make sure I heard you correctly You can understand Right, right? Right, yeah So, yeah All right, I appreciate the call, thank you And let me go to Guido

Hello, Guido, morning Hey, Bill, good morning Morning I want to hit a couple topics Number one, the camera deal Like the old saying goes, you don't get nothing for free Those were put up, you know,

they're getting to kick back. The city's making money. It's all about revenue generation. You get a ticket from that. You're down to the city. You pay 168 bucks, whatever the case may be. And key, it doesn't go on your driver's license. Doesn't go against your insurance. It's blackmail. What would you suggest then? What would you like the cities to do when you end up having the camera system people coming to you and saying, hey, we're here to help you with public safety? Yeah, right. They're head up there and wallet along.

That's all they're here for. Okay, Guido. All right, let me grab a couple more. Hi, good morning. This is Bill. It's Conspiracy Theory Thursday. You got a good one. Hello?

Me? Yeah. For me? Yes. Oh, that's funny. Guido, now Gino. Yeah. See, at first when he said Guido, I thought it was you because we missed the first time.

But anyway, Gino, go ahead. What's up? So I just want to remind everybody. There's a great series of books. They're called The Left Behind. series. I recommend the book rather than the movies. I think there's 12 or 13 books in there, and it's actually a modern-day fictional account of what it would be like if Revelation was acted out in present day. And so the idea of cameras going up overnight, all that's covered

in the books. And I'd really like to suggest people look at it, because remember, Revelation is the only part of the Bible that hasn't actually come true yet. And what it says is one world currency, one-world government, a one-world tax system, and a one-world police force. But you suggest the book series rather than the films. I just want to be clear about that. Yes, yes, the books. By the way, they're by Tim Leahy and Dallas Jenkins' father. Jalice Jenkins is the one who's doing Chosen right now.

So his father and his buddy wrote this series of books over the years, and I highly recommend them because, again, in Chronicles, what would it look like if Revelation was actually acted out with today's technology and modern in modern times. Sounds very thought-provoking. You know, you know, Gino, back during COVID time, and I remember when I'd be like the only person on the freeway forever as I would come to work right then, there was a part of me that even thought about that Left Behind series. I was thinking, gosh, yeah, yeah.

You know, I'm a sinner and I didn't make it in. Here I am on the way to my job, you know. By the way, by the way, let me leave you with this thought. Adam, Eve, Kane, Abel. 25% of us were murderers. It's still that way. Hasn't changed, huh? Yeah.

Thank you, Gino. We'll grab another call here. You know, I enjoy the noodling around. It's all sorts of different topics this morning. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Hello? Are you there, Bill?

Yes, I am. Morning. Oh, there we are. So am I. Okay, well, it's been well said. The power to tax is the power to destroy. And I think Oregon's being destroyed by the insane people up there and the porcelain mausoleum up there, and also federally. And so your two callers back, she had some ideas about that regard.

Solution, I think all income taxes should be abolished, that we should have a voluntary sales tax. that is set by the people, not by any politician. It would be by voting. And most taxes should be collected and spent locally, and then we'll give a stipend would go to the state, stipend to the federal government. Boy, both would end up shrinking dramatically in respect to that. And frankly, I would be much more in favor with high local taxes,

even local and county taxes. and then ignoring what the state does and ignoring what the Fed does for the most part. They would have very limited and frankly, and when you would then, I know since we're fantasizing right now, Tom, okay, all right? You understand, right? Since we're fantasizing, think about that. At least when you would throw out a county commissioner or a city mayor or, you know, a council member, there would actually be real power and real policy differences that could be made because so much of what we claim to suffer under right now is really policies pushed down from higher up.

It's not grassroots government in the least. We're just rubber stamping and or kind of fuzzling around a bit with, you know, on the edges of changing policy, really. Yeah, so, and of course it would entail having quite a different. an economic system than just total fiat controlled by private bankers. I mean, we definitely have there. So the country needs a great economic reset that it's not coming from the world economic form and Klaus Schwab. And the world is hungry for decentralizing. At the same time, we're being fed more of the same centralized command and control of everything. Exactly. So there's

a battle going on. And it's going to be, you know, we're, we're in the middle. of it right now. And so anyway, that's just a proposition that I see would help the whole taxation business. I mean, you know, this idea of a corporate activity tax and all the taxes. Yeah, yeah, taxing a company just for the money running through it, that's not profit. It's just insane. But I do, I do think that as much as I love Oregon not having a sales tax, I think a sales tax is ultimately, truly, if you want to call it, the fairer way of funding particular services. And also, it gets everybody in the same boat.

Everybody has a dog in that fight. Property taxes, not that way. Income taxes, certainly not that way. Income taxes discourage, you know, income creation. And I would say the property taxes also determined by property owners, not everybody. And also, I would put in a law to the effect that no one's property could be confiscated for taxes by local governments. You know, somebody gets in a bad way and they can't pay the taxes or whatever. I also think it should be totally voluntary.

This really sounds ideal. Well, a voluntary taxation. Well, as it is right now, remember, they tell us right now in the United States that we have a voluntary tax system. remember that, and I always laughed about that, and I always said, yeah, okay, choose not to volunteer and then see how voluntary it really is. They'll come by and break your knees, just to lock you. On that note, Tom, thanks for the call. I really appreciate that. It is 858 and change, okay?