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Episode Date: December 12, 2025

Into the news of the day and your calls, Will Hild joins me from Consumers Research...wow, amazing report detailing how woke the Chamber of Commerce is, and Will lays all his cards on the table telling the story.

The Bill Meyer Show podcast is sponsored by Klauser Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausor drilling.com. Here's Bill Meyer. Happy Conspiracy Theory Thursday. Great to have you here Thursday, December 11th. A little bit of light, drizzly, foggy, sort of semi sort of glop going on today. Maybe that'll clear up.

Didn't really clear up yesterday, did it? At least around by the airport where I work in my East Medford neighborhood. It didn't really change a whole lot. Did it get sunny in Grants Pass? Sometimes it gets sunnier in Grants Pass before it gets sunnier here in Medford. But anyway, we can talk about whatever happens to be on your mind. And if you've heard a good conspiracy, you've got a good one. Join in 770563-770 KMED.

One of the bigger stories, let's see if I can find this. You know, if all the news, I know we're talking about, yeah, the Trump administration seized a Venezuelan oil tanker, yeah, and they're being called pirates, et cetera. Of course, this tanker has been under sanctioned for quite some time, so I'll kind of just set that aside for this moment. And you hear all the stuff in the news cycle about what's right, what's right, you know, affordability, inflation.

I mean, it's all important to get me wrong. But one of the biggest stories, which is getting almost no play, is worthy of attention this morning. and at least I'll give a little bit of it. And this was in The Gateway Pundit.com and a few other sources here on what the U.S. Department of Justice did. And this is one of those stories which kind of sneaks up on you, but it's going to have much more impact over the years.

On Tuesday, the DOJ issued a final rule, and what they did was that they eliminated all disparate impact liability from its Title VI regulations. It's the Civil Rights Regulations. And essentially, the Civil Rights Act of 1964 is being pushed back to its original meaning. And it's, as Joe Hoff writes in the Gateway Pundit, and this is dismantling one of the left's most powerful tools for race-based social engineering. This is a big deal.

Because the way it used to work is that, okay, you would have an anti-discrimination policy someplace. and then they ended up coming up with some rules that all somebody had to do to challenge the rule was to say, well, you know, it hurt more of this group than this group. Let's say that you had an IQ test to get in or, you know, well, okay, here's a classic example. Classic example was that there used to be tests that would be given to firefighters. I think in New York City and some of the other big unionized cities. you know, they would have tests that were, you know, just trying to find the smarter people to become smart firefighters. And then you would have some members of minority groups that are saying, hey, you know, these tests are unfair because, you know, we have more people of this particular group, this minority, or that minority, flunking the test.

Well, now that's not going to matter. All it will matter is if you can pass the test. I think it's this is how I'm interpreting what this is going on and then you got to this point where you had the DEI hire you had DEI hires that were genuinely less capable people and you were kind of required to do this because all you had to do was just show hey you know we put this test in to get this job and then gosh all only the Asians were able to to pass or something like that but you know we need some really really smart people i'm just giving an example because everybody knows that as a group agents tend to punch above their weight

as far as uh iq and various other things all you had to do was show that some groups were affected more than others as an example let's say they were hiring for firefighters that all of a sudden uh you have uh somalis in which the average IQ if i recall correctly is 86 the world IQ of Somalians, for the most part, coming in, are around 86. A little bit below average, right? All the Somalians would have to do is say, hey, you know, you're not hiring any Somalian firefighters. Now, I might be oversimplifying this, but that's kind of the rule that we've been operating on under so-called civil rights law. And the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was about just non-discrimination. But all somebody had to do was come out and say, well, my group doesn't give.

get as much of this because for whatever, a test or a requirement or whatever the case might be. And you could challenge it and then the rule would get thrown out. And then you ended up having this growth of DEI. Well, they've now ended that standard. Going forward, if you have a Title VI case handled by the DOJ, it requires evidence of intentional discrimination, not just the fact that one group has more than another getting in there. So I suppose if you had the IQ-86 Somalia firefighter that did not get hired as an example, they would have to say, or they would have to be able to prove, oh, the fire department ended up putting up a tester or having a test that we had to pass

in order to become a firefighter, and they did this intentionally to craft it in a way that Somalians couldn't get in. I'm sorry to pick on Somalians, but I was just reading that, yeah, the typical IQ in Somalia is 86, and we have imported a lot of them in Minnesota, and some of them into Congress. I don't know if Elon Omar is, hopefully she has an IQ higher than 86. I don't know. Far be from me to judge on things like this. But now you would have to prove intentional discrimination. intentional discrimination. So to me, this is one of the bigger stories of the week,

and it's not getting a lot of play, but at least you know about it at this point. And this ends up following President Trump's April 23rd, 2025 executive order, restoring equality of opportunity and meritocracy. So it's putting the opportunity into people who have merit, who are able to perform well, who are able to bring the right stuff, not just, you know, let's make sure that we have a,

well, this is something that Oregon is very big on, diverse workforce. Remember? That's what the director of the Oregon Department of Education was all about. Remember, that was one of the main pushes that the ODE chair or the ODE had wanted to do. The main job is to foster a diverse workforce, not a competent workforce a diverse workforce yeah we don't want to worry about having competent teachers

we don't want competent teachers and competent educator types in the Oregon Department of Education all we care about is that they tick off all of the the various boxes the various grievance boxes well the federal government's not going to tolerate that any longer from the looks of it and that's not necessarily going to force Oregon to stop being a box-ticking hellhole. You know, that's not changing. But at least the Department of Justice in the federal government is no longer going to be taking all of these cases. We're saying, well, some people got hurt by this rule more than others.

That's discrimination. No, you just don't have the skills. That might be the answer coming back from the DOJ. You would have to prove intentional discrimination that you were going against this particular group or ethnic background, whatever. You have to prove intentional discrimination, not just the fact that some people made it and other people didn't. So that's going back to meritocracy. So kudos to the Trump administration. It's another step.

I wish it could be done in actual law rather than an executive order because I would be concerned that, you know, our Marxist gets in next time or a Marxist gets in Amman Dani for president, God forbid, and then just throws it right back to where it was. but at least for now, it's an improvement. This is the Bill Myers Show, and you're on KMED. This is the time of the year. Most of us are checking off our holiday gift list, identity thieves. Donate and help the Marines deliver hope to a child in need. This is Randall with Advanced Air, and I'm on KMED. 21 minutes after 6-770 KMED.

By the way, great time yesterday with the Jackson County Commission yesterday. I ended up by getting my chairman's award, and I can tell you, it was overwhelming. It's overwhelming to have so many people in the community having popped in there, submitted testimony, and saying good things about me, and I'm not used to that. I'm not that kind of guy. I'm not sitting around there going. I can't wait for you to say great things about me. In fact, it's a little embarrassing or just, I just want to do a good job and provide a good show and a good service here for Southern Oregon. and I appreciate the, it's nice to be recognized, though.

So I thank the board. I thank the chairman for that. That's great, but it really was kind of overwhelming. But that was really something. A lot of people showed up, a lot of folks from Markey Broadcast West, ended up showing up to a lot of my colleagues and, gosh, friends and family. And it's really something. So once a year, the chairman of the Jackson County Board selects someone

from the community, and it's an honor. It's a 15th time they've done that, and I'm sure that'll continue for next year. All right, some of our other headlines here that we have. I just want to make sure you're just catching you up on the news here for Conspiracy Theory Thursday. Rogue Valley Times reporting that a white city man is not going to be getting second-degree murder charges.

In fact, he's been deemed unfit. This was the guy that stabbed his 72-year-old father. remember that that happened in late October he murdered his father but Jason Rowan is going to be transferred to the Oregon State Hospital for treatment in order to gain fitness to proceed to trial I guess that's the whole thing you put him in there and see if you can get him to the point where he is capable of going to trial Oregonian has a story here widen murkley joint effort to block trump from appointing unqualified immigration jobs or immigrant judges rather. Yeah, Wyden and Merckley signed a bill to block Trump from appointing unqualified immigration judges. Now, what is an unqualified immigration judge? Let's see. According to the Oregon Live, Oregon U.S. senators have signed under this bill because they're saying he's abusing loopholes. Now, anytime you hear a moron talk about a

loophole in a judge or in a law, a loophole is just the law. That's all it is. I, I don't like that. I hear this. Well, someone used a tax loophole, no, they used the law, is what they did. But of course, this is Merkley and Wyden, so it's Trump's arrangement here, but let's see what this latest Trump derangement is. More than a dozen senators are co-sponsoring the temporary immigration judge Integrity Act, which they said would close loopholes. The Trump administration is used to accelerate mass deportation. Shifty shift from California introduced the last week. Now, this is what they're upset about. In the past year, the Trump administration has replaced 100 immigration judges with 600 military lawyers. And I'll do it in Wyden's voice.

Trumpeth weaponizing our immigrathing court and torching due profit right. Okay, I'll stop. Trump is weaponizing our immigration courts and torching due process rights by replacing experienced judges with unqualified lawyers who will rubber-stamp his mass deportation agenda. Now, that's kind of nonsense on its face because how complex is the immigration lawyer or the immigration, in this case, you know, the lawyer, the judge, the so-called unqualified judges that, that Wyden and Merckley are complaining about. How difficult is that job? The main thing is what is your name and do you have authorization to be here do you have authorization to be here oh you do not have authorization to be here all right is there any other extenuating circumstance that i need to know

about oh okay uh you have a nice family here what was this after you came here illegally you form this man oh okay that that's really nice i'm very sorry you don't have authorization to be here i have heard your case, bailiff processed the illegal immigrant and let's commence with deportation. It's not that complex of a situation, but

Wyden and Merkley want to make what is a relatively straightforward process very difficult. So apparently, Wyden and Merkley are once again, like many Democrats, more in love with illegal aliens

than they are with actually enforcing the law. You know, these are people who are never supposed to be here in the first place. Absolutely fascinating. So they're complaining about the judges. This is not about having big immigration trials with complexities and various other things. It's, are you authorized, can you prove that you are authorized to be here? You can't.

All right. We have nothing more to say. Have a nice day. That's the way it tends to work elsewhere. You know, if you're an illegal alien in, France, you overstaying your visa or something like that? They just come take you and then off you go. You know, I'll tell you's a big deal. In fact, they're worried in France right now because Linda watches all these Chateau's things. You know, she's a big France fan. You know, loves French

stuff. They're having this big deal right now because they've enforced or they're enforcing new rules now that if you want to stay in France, you have to be able to speak and write French fluently. You can't just come in there and be the rich, great Britain person or from the UK buy a chateau and stay there forever. You're going to have to integrate into society, which means you have to learn the language. And there's a lot of people that are like freaking out over this one because they may have been there a long time, but they haven't really learned the language all that well. And so France is saying, you're going to go. And that's all there is to it. Nobody's calling them racist. It's amazing.

Hi, good morning. This is KMED. Bill Meyer here, who's this? Oh, good morning, Bill. This is Greg. How you doing? What's on your mind today? It doesn't have to be about the immigration thing, but I was just shaking my hand on it, but this is Merkley and Wyden.

What can we say? Yeah, well, we could go all over here. It's so nice to be hearing some of the negativity for a change and the truth of what's going on out there. But I don't really have a conspiracy I'm calling about. I'm just calling to thank you for pointing out to me that I, as you, have an imaginary friend. And I don't know if I heard about the statin issue that you were concerned with, I've done the same. Yeah. And my imaginary friend last spring told me after about a, I think I got maybe three minutes with him, and he gave up.

And he said, well, if you're not going to take that, just take. red yeast rice, and that'll do the same thing. Oh, no kidding. So the idea was to push the statins big, big time at first, and then when you kept refusing, then the red yeast rice came out, probably because there's no profit to be made on red yeast rice. They don't sell that through the pharmacy, right? Well, Costco's got a great product for it, and it's real and expensive,

and he said it'll do exactly the same thing. And that was after looking at my record, I think, that I've refused it for five or six years. So your imaginary friend was working on you, too. Now, this was my cardiologist. She's less imaginary. My primary care physician is truly the imaginary friend. I think, you know, I think it's about a three-minute, three- or four-minute thing. It's fascinating in the way things are working these days.

How high was your cholesterol, if you don't mind me asking, you know, being a little personal? It's always, it's been consistently on the line as they've brought it down through the last few years. It's been just right there. You know, it's been well. I'd feel better if you did, but if you don't, they've never made a big deal out of it. Well, pretty soon if the statin people, well, if the statin manufacturers have their way, the required cholesterol will be about 25 by the time, you know, and they'll be giving statins to one-year-olds, you know, in daycare, that kind of thing. You can see that coming, can't you?

Oh, absolutely. Well, tell me how that works out, okay? All right? Sure. One other thing, I just wanted to say, I'm glad to hear about the ceremony yesterday, and that is so well-deserved by you. But I think that with community input, we need to enter you into a national contest, because I've watched through the years what you have developed in,

the work you've done for the community and there's no one that's doing more and just thank you so much that's very kind and if i could see the red on my face i think i'm turning red but i appreciate your kind words okay be well uh man i'll tell you uh hi good morning this is bill who's this bill good morning it's ron well congratulations for crying out loud i read about that this morning and i thought, fantastic. What do they say? Kudos? Yeah. Yeah, kudos. Thank you very much. And like I said, it was really overwhelming. A lot of people ended up showing up and a great response to it. A lot of text messages and emails. Everybody else said, I'm really honored. Thank you. Yeah. Well, by all means. So I wanted to expound a little bit on acronisms this morning.

You've heard the term DEI. Yes. When that originally, I'm being sarcastic now. So your sarco meter may very well redline here momentarily. But DEI started out originally as a acronym for Democrat expansion inclusiveness. So when you think about it, every NGO. every nonprofit, every, every, literally dot connected to Democrat funding or legislation to increase funding or, you know, even the Obamacare extensions, it all basically goes to one thing.

And it's not that Whiten and Merckley love illegal immigrants. It's that they love power. And if they love that power so much that they're willing to bend the law or in some cases flat out break it and then depend on the judicial infrastructure to enforce the irregularity, you see what I mean. So essentially what happens is they create their own self-assurance to repeat term. And I've been thinking about it. The bottom line is, and I don't know if it's even feasible or not, but the bottom line is we have to put our foot down as a nation and pass term limits, period. That's it. Maybe that's the only way to go about it. But as it is right now, the Democrats are very effective at funding that self-licking ice cream cone kind of deal, right?

Absolutely, they are. And so when people say, oh, they're stupid, oh, my God, I can't believe. No, no, that's not it. It's always about the retention of power, the attaining and retention of power. Real American salute for you on that one, Ron. Thank you. And let me grab one more call here before news. Hi, good morning.

Welcome. Hello. Good, horrible Patrick here, Bill. Hello, D.P. Welcome. Good morning. I did not know about the get-together that honored you. I would have certainly been there.

And you have been thinking about this. lot, but I've got to say that there was a time, a long time ago, when KMED was a music station, I first started listening to talk radio only at night because it was a signal from the Bay Area. I used to think, forgive me for what I used to think, man, what a great job as a talk show hosts. They got a three-hour work day. You're funny, man. But you know, I used to think that. too, back when I was a kid. How many hats?

I'm calculating you wear about four hats down there. Yeah, that's what we all do. Everybody's in broadcasting anybody in legacy media these days is that way. It's just, you know, the business model. You can't do just one thing these days. And that's okay. It keeps you nimble, all right? I do want to ask you this, though.

Is Pam Bondi going to find her way to Oregon to help us maintain our sales? Second Amendment rights here? I really don't know of all the Trump administration hires, the ones that or the one which is giving me the most partial indigestion might be Pam Bondi. I'd have to get back to you on that one, okay? I'm not sure exactly what's going on there. Maybe a lot of it's going on behind the scenes, and I don't quite understand what's going on, but there doesn't seem to be as much movement as I think I was hoping there would be by this

time. If you understand where I'm coming from. Yes. Well, thank you for that. At least we know that much. All right. Thank you, D.P. 635 at KMED. An intelligent solution is influenced by timing. This is Randall at Advanced Air. It is rebate season for heat pumps and furnace. Little earlier, I was talking about how the Trump administration has been doing some great work on dismantling DEI and trying to restore meritocracy. And then you see other groups that are fighting the Trump administration kind of tooth and nail or maybe hammer and claw. I don't know how you want to put it.

But joining me this morning is Will Hild, and Will Hild once again, is the executive director of Consumers Research. Hello, Will. Welcome back to the show. Good to have you on. Yeah, absolutely. Great to be with you again. Tell us about consumers' research, first off, if you could. Tell us about the whole group and what's your website, et cetera. Absolutely. Well, we're the nation's oldest consumer protection organization founded in 1929, have a nearly 100-year pedigree of educating consumers on issues important in them

and amplifying their voice in the marketplace. But the last four or five years, we've really focused on pushing back against woke capitalism And the myriad ways that's not only offensive politically to a lot of people, but it's also undermining the quality of the goods and services that everyone from all walks of life and all political perspectives, you know, rely on to have a standard of living that we have in this country. And so we've been highlighting companies that distract from their misdeeds in their market or the mistreatment of their customers by going woke, closing up to woke activists instead of focusing on doing their jobs. And so this, as you noted, we've been sort of focusing on the Chamber of Commerce here, the last week and the myriad ways that they've been engaging in that people can i should say you ask for my website people can learn more at consumers research dot org yeah this interview and by the way i signed up for those work a woke alerts and you text message me every now and then and i got

a text message the other day about the united states chamber of commerce now i have i've been open about not being fans of chamber of commerce because i i don't really look at the chamber of commerce as being a conservative business focus group any longer i kind of see it as a a snake pit of activism, and I'm wondering if this is the latest of where you're going with this new woke alert. What do you think? That's exactly right. And we started digging into the chambers. A whistleblower alerted me to some videos of a conference that they did regarding getting rid of litigation, consumer litigation, in ways that they could combat it, called dismantling the machine. So they paint the ability of consumers to sue them when then they're, you know,

hurt by their products as some sort of nefarious project. But in any case, I'm going through the videos, and I was absolutely startled at some of the things that they were pushing. And in fact, one, and I want to highlight one in particular, they had someone from the board of a group called Leadership Council on Legal Diversity come and speak on the importance of effectively race and sex-based quotas in all of their companies, and more importantly, all of the law firms that they were hiring. And, you know, I've come on this interview program before, I think, to talk about things like the Net Zero Asset Management Group or the Net Zero Bankers Align. These were effectively cartels of banks and asset managers who are coordinating their activities to push a political

agenda to override the will of the populace, you know, not having to go to the ballot box. Luckily, most of them have been dismantled by actions of state AGs and the federal government. But the leadership, the LCLD, this Leadership Council on Legal Diversity, is effectively that, a cartel for pushing DEI into big law. And the way it operates is that it's a group of corporations who say that they will only give outside legal work. And that's how most corporations handle their litigation. They don't do it in-house. They have in-house lawyers who manage the outside attorneys and decide which firm is going to take the case. and in this case, by signing on to this group, you agree to push a bunch of diversity quotas

and incentives onto the firms you're hiring or you won't hire them. So it's effectively a cartel. It's saying we're going to use our market power to push this race and sex-based quota agenda. It's effectively a cartel for discrimination. I was absolutely shocked and appalled to see the Chamber of Commerce have someone pushing this nonsense at their own conference, and that's really what led us down this road. Now, has the Chamber of Commerce fully signed onto this, or was this an outlier within the Chamber of Commerce structure that decided that, hey, we've got to go wokeie-brokey, and we'll only hire woke law firms, that kind of thing, filled with DEI hires, that sort of thing. That's a great question.

No, this wasn't a one-off. As we went digging into a lot of their materials, what we found is a pattern of engaging in express racial discrimination. For example, they have a number of policies, and they had a grant program that was exclusively, for black-owned businesses. They were discriminating on where they gave out these grants based on the race of the person who owned or ran the business. They've encouraged their own companies who are members to, you know, engage in racial discrimination to, you know, have metrics and incentives around hitting certain race and sex-based quotas for hiring and promotion. So it's actually a pattern of behavior, but I just couldn't, I was so shot that they would have

someone from this incredibly, incredibly evil organization, leadership counsel, and legal diversity, come and speak. It was really the capstone to a pattern it would appear of encouraging race discrimination and employment, which is crazy because we have federal laws and state laws against that. After the 1965 Civil Rights Act, that was supposed to ban all of that activity. And now they are engaging in it and virtue signaling about it, bragging about it. So we think they need to be called out for this because I still think the average person probably think sees the Chamber of Commerce as sort of a generally conservative or free market pro-business group. And that could just be no farther from the truth.

I don't think the chambers have been, I don't think the chambers have been like that for, what, 30, maybe 40 years? I think it's been going on that long, Will. Do you have an opinion on that? Or a take on it? Yeah, I agree. It wasn't this bad until the last about 10 years, but absolutely, they started going this direction in the early 2000s. And what they realized is that they, you know, the conservative movement generally was free market and pro business to begin with. So they had nothing to gain by caring what conservatives thought about them. They just sort of took their support as a given. And increasingly, they virtually signal to the left that, hey, we'll make a bargain with you so that when you're in power, you don't beat on

us too much. And that grew and grew and grew to, really, they're indistinguishable from an arm of the Democratic Party. There's not a lot of daylight between the Chamber of Commerce and the Center for American Progress or the Brookings Institution, which are the two left-wing think tanks here in D.C. are two big ones. And so I just think people need to update their sort of perception of this organization. I think when you see a politician talk about working with the chamber, I think you need to count that as a mark against them, not for them, if you care about the free market or you care just about people not being racially or sexually discriminated in the workplace. Chamber of Commerce is now validly in support of race and sex-based discrimination.

Are there any calls from within the chamber structure itself to reform and get back to being essentially politically neutral, more of a politically neutral stance? You know, that's a great question. I've had people reach out to me whose companies that they work out are members, and they just express a ton of frustration with the organization. I'm not an insider there, but my understanding is that they have a very arcane and insulated governance structure. it would make it very difficult for the current leadership to truly be overturned. I think probably what's more likely to happen is as being a member of the Chamber of Commerce becomes a marker of alignment with the left, the companies that don't feel that way will peel off and the Chamber will just eventually collapse. I know that sounds incredible because, you know, they're a very powerful organization still,

but I think they are waning in power and influence, and increasingly they find themselves isolated within D.C. The left, for all of their virtue signaling, still this doesn't like them. And they've betrayed the right. So I don't see a lot of room for them to have a lot of influence in the future. But I do think it's important that people understand and consumers understand that when there is a business that they're frequenting that the member of the Chamber of Commerce, they are pushing, they are supporting race and sex-based discrimination. I wonder if the reason why the United States Chamber of Commerce went with this, what was the legal racket that you were talking about earlier in the name of that? What was that? The Leadership Council on Legal Diversity.

Okay, okay. We'll just call it the Leadership Racket, okay, because we know that's what this is. I wonder if this isn't in reaction, in reaction to another story that I was talking about this morning that has to do with the Department of Justice eliminated the disparate impact liability from Title VI regulations. That's a, you know, in other words, restoring the Civil Rights Act to its original 1964. meaning in which you didn't have to, you would have to prove overt discrimination that somebody had a rule or a test or something like that that intended to discriminate against this particular group rather than the fact that some groups ended up not winning and others won.

You know that disparate impact rule, you know that story, I don't know if you heard that or not. I sure did, and that's a very astute observation. The disparate impact regime that unfortunately the DOJ decided to support, I think it was actually under H.W. Bush, which is a huge mark against his presidency, I'm sorry to say, because what that basically said is that policies at companies or organizations that weren't overtly racist. They didn't say, you know, no Irish need apply or something like that, but they had a disparate impact, meaning if you had a test and you were, you know, testing people

if they'd be a good fireman or not, if you could show that the impact of this happened to be that one race did better than another, although this was almost never enforced when the shoe on the other foot, and it was, you know, against whites or men, that that was enough to say that the policy itself was discriminatory, even if there was clearly no racial animus or intent behind it. This is an insane policy, because what this suggests is that all groups are the same in all ways. That's never been true, whether you believe in race as a genetic distinction or you believe

it's all cultural difference. In any case, there are differences between groups. That does not. It's not a reason to discriminate against people or be mean to people. but it is just a reality of the world we live in. And so almost any policy has some sort of disparate impact, either on people from different cultural backgrounds, ethnic backgrounds, either sex or gender, obviously a requirement that somebody be able to lift a certain amount

amount is going to have a disparate impact when you're hiring firemen between men and women. And so this has been weaponized against basically any kinds of standards. And this is when I talked about, I'm so glad you brought this up, because this is one of those factors of wokenness that leads to, to a lowering of the quality of goods and services that companies provide. Because instead of being able to test employees and track employees' performance to make sure that they're providing the best goods and services they can, they're afraid to do that because of this disparate impact regime.

Yeah, we can't touch this person, even though they're doing a bad job because, well, insert whatever the grievance is, you know, that kind, whatever the grievance group is that they belong to. Fair enough. Is that really what we've been dealing with here? I brought up the, you know, it's funny that you brought up the thing about the firefighters, because I was mentioning that in the show a little bit earlier, about, that's exactly the example I used. All they had to show was that one group didn't do the test as well as another group, and then the test got thrown out.

And so you have lower qualified people coming in there, and no, we're not all the same. And I was picking on Somalia this week, only because it's been in the news a lot in Minnesota and all these other things. average IQ of a Somalian is generally 86, and then it's not that way coming from China or Norway or anything else. There are different abilities from different groups around the world. It's just a fact of life, and I guess the Democratic Party has been about trying to ignore that or just eliminate that realization here, Will? Is that what's going on, I guess? Yeah, I mean, there's some of that. To tell you the truth, I actually think it's just a a causes belly, a reason for being for them because it allows, because there are differences

between groups, you will always need the Democratic Party to intervene on behalf of your group in order to make sure the equal outcome. So it's a reason for them to keep their patronage machine going, which is their real reason for existing, right? They want to stay in power. And so, you know, there's a term that gets thrown around online called gay race communism. And what that means by that isn't that people are gay that engage in it. It's that by splitting people into different identities and then saying that the outcomes for all of these identities need to be exactly equal, you basically give yourself a route to communism, meaning you have a reason for the government to intervene in all situations, because there's always going to be equal outcomes

between people of different abilities and backgrounds. It's not to say anything negative about anybody. It's just that there's going to be unequleness in society. But if you have this idea that any disparate outcomes between any kind of groups necessitates government intervention, you will always have a reason for more and more government. And that's where the communism comes in. You've got a basically infinite excuse to conduct interventions into private life and society. And so you're exactly right. You're getting to the core.

This disparate impact thing really gets to the core of the whole woke ideology. And the U.S. Chamber of Commerce is all in, unfortunately, even right now. And that's exactly right. And this is, you know, this is sort of the political science technical term for this is corporatism, where you have the corporations allying with the state to basically become an arm of the state. We saw this in Nazi Germany. We've seen this in pretty much every fascists. We're known for it. I'm not saying this is fascists. I'm just saying it's a hallmark of that ideology. And you see that's what the chamber is doing. Even in violation of federal and state

civil rights law, employment law, they're putting it on their webpage. They're putting up videos about it because they have decided to align themselves with the Democratic Party and the progressive movement. And people just need to know that. They need to know what the chamber is and what it stands for. And that's a big reason we put out this woke alert. Will Hild, Executive Director of Consumers Research, and once again your website, and I signed up for the woke alerts, and so I get this, and we'll link to everything about this, including this new report of yours. But where do you go to sign up? Absolutely. People can visit us at Consumersresearch.org, Consumersresearch.org, and they can sign up

for those woke alerts. And I think you'll attest, we don't bombard you. We don't spam you. This isn't like you get hit up every day. No. We wait for big moves, things that you as a consumer need to know about. And we also don't just want to rile you up and make you angry or feel bad about the fate of the world. We give you actionable things you could do to push back. We give you contact information. And I will tell you, I know this interview and a lot of the stuff I come on here, it makes seem like, oh, wow, the world's really not doing well. I don't know if I just want to turn this off. But I don't want to leave anyone with sense that they're not empowered. Consumers have shaken the foundations of this woke nonsense over the last four or five years by pushing back with Budweiser and Target and a whole host of other companies. So you as a consumer, you're the listener, you should absolutely feel empowered by that. And if you'd like to, you know, join up and keep pushing back on these people, please, please join us at Consumers Research.org and sign up for our woke alerts. Because the point is, is that they then give you the people to contact to tell them what you think about it, to use your consumer power for good,

and just to get an even playing field out there. Is that a good way of looking at it, to wrap up? That's exactly right. And as I noted earlier in the interview, a lot of the superstructures from Wall Street, the asset managers, the banks, that were pushing a bunch of wokeness and convincing these companies to poke their own customers in the eye. Because of federal and state action, they're starting to fall apart. So consumers have never had more power over the last 10 years than they do right now. So your calls mean more today than they did yesterday, and they're going to even more tomorrow. So I encourage people to get involved. Appreciate the help. Will, great talking with you. Thanks for being on the show. Be well. Thanks so much. This is KMED, KMED HD-1, Eagle Point, Metford, KBXG, Grants Pass. The Bill Myers Show on 1063, KMED.

Now Bill wants to hear from you. 541-770-5633. That's 770 KMED. By the way, apologies for not having had Facebook Live audio. I went on Facebook Live and I had used the computer for some other things and changed some settings yesterday, doing some. other work, and I forgot to set it back to actually feed Facebook Live. So my apologies, but I ended that feed, and so I started the new one. I know there are a lot of people who like to watch that

in the morning, okay? I will catch up on other news here in just a minute. There's a big event going on tomorrow at the Eagle Point National Cemetery, and your help is needed. I'm going to tell you more about that along with the rest of the news, which is going on here this morning. And, of course, we'll have time on conspiracy theory Thursday to get your conspiracy theory or otherwise just conspiracy calls. So another story I wanted to make sure that you knew about, and this was in Road Valley Times, and I don't know if you have an opinion on this. Maybe we can discuss this.

The Jackson County Library District workers are now going to get union representation. So I guess when you're pushing the wokey, brokey, left-wing anti-Christian agenda, you're going to need some human and human resource protection, maybe some union representation. Is that how to read this? Yeah. Majority of the employees have signed authorization cards to unionize, and so they'll be moving to SEIU representation. Huh. SEIU Local 503. So what does SEI, what is SEIU known for?

Why that would be supporting Democrat politics through donations and union dues. So just know that yet another reason why I've just looked at the library systems, both in most of our counties, as not really being about library services, but more about pushing a Democratic Party agenda. It doesn't really surprise me much, unfortunately. We'll catch up on the rest of the news here and more of your calls and how you can help over at the Eagle Point National Cemetery.

Do a good thing tomorrow. We'll tell you next.