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Episode Date: December 12, 2025

Music journalist Alan Light about his new book DONT STOP, WHY WE (STILL) LOVE FLEETWOOD MACS RUMORS...interesting backgroung on that crazy time. Open phones and Salvation army folks here, asking for help. Oh, and the Main street Medford plan...Uh-oh.

The Bill Myers Show podcast is sponsored by Klausur drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausurrilling.com. I mentioned we were going to talk with any award-winning music journalist Alan Light, and he's written a whole bunch of books here, but his latest one, I think, is really even more worth listening to and reading. It's why we still love Fleetwood Max Rumors. Alan, it's a pleasure having you on. Morning, sir.

Thank you so much, Bill. Happy to be here. Yeah. I was a young teenager listening to 1190 K-E-Z-Y in Anaheim when I was a teenager when this album came out and Go Your Own Way was hitting there. And I thought, wow, this is really cool stuff. And then I went back and listened to some of the earlier stuff. And what is it about 1970s classic rock and maybe even 1970s art in general? Are we boomers just incredibly nostalgic, incredibly narcissistic, both? Or is it just a lot of the art from that period? Just was that good? You've been writing about music for years.

Tell me your take on it. Well, yes to those, but also, I think what was so, you know, what I was drawn to for this project, what I really wanted to explore in Don't Stop is selling one of the biggest albums of all time. We know that. But there are other big albums from the 70s. There are other things that are classic. This one continues to attract young listeners, continues to draw in a new audience year after year.

We're coming up on 50 years, and this album is still parked in Billboard's top 20, week in and week out. In 2024, it was the biggest selling rock album of the year of anything, old or new. In 2024, you're saying, right? In 2024, you know, the new numbers came out this year for 2025. They did rock and alternative together. It was the third biggest-selling rock or alternative album behind the Billy Elish album and the Noah Khan album, which I'm a fan of both. I don't know if they're rock albums necessarily.

And then rumors. What I noticed a few years back when my son was in high school was all of his friends knew rumors. They knew this album. They had a relationship to it. They were interested in it. And they didn't care about Hotel California. They didn't care about Born to Run. Those are old to them.

Rumors still felt like something relevant to them, still feel like something that was resonant for them. And that was what I really wanted to look at. Why does this one, you know, as you said, there's a bunch of great records of that era, but this one towers above those others in terms of its popularity with young people. And what is that about? what is the reason that this one, you know, sort of continues to snowball, continues to feel like something that is a new discovery for those kids where the other stuff of its era, you know, just feels ancient and not part of their lives.

That's what I wanted to get into with this book. Yeah, Romer is sort of, you know, it does transcend the term classics, really iconic, with truly iconic. What I'm kind of wondering about is that younger generations have been known as well more about feelings, sometimes to their own detriment, sometimes a little too much into the feelings. But I can't help it. You know, Rumors is essentially an open wound from start to finish with so rare exceptions in there about love and breakups. And I'm wondering if that is maybe some of the secret sauce why it is still the number one rock album or number two or number three,

even today. I think that that's absolutely right. I mean, I think that the, you know, we know it's the greatest soap opera in rock and all history. The three couples all breaking up at the same time, all writing songs about each other, you know, playing recording and working on those songs together. It's not like anything else that we can imagine. Alan, I don't know how you keep that together.

How do you keep that together, Alan? You must have talked to some of them, right? It's unimaginable, but they all said, like, look, we knew that these songs were very special. The music we were making was something that was really magic. And, you know, Stevie, there's a quote from Stevie Nixon, the book, saying, like, well, were we going to just quit and go start on their bands? Like, that just seemed dumb. We knew that we were doing something great, so we kept going. And I think for, you know, again, for young listeners, some of them really know that story.

Some of them are super into the soap opera, the drama, the lore of it. But some of them, if you're born 20 years after this record came out, don't know anything about that. There was one girl I talked to, and I talked to 30-some post-millennial's about their relationship to the album. One of them, I asked her, when did you find out about all the craziness and everything that was happening in the back story? And she said, just now when you asked me, I don't know anything about that. That has nothing to do with why I love this record or why I listen to these songs. Yeah, but it was autobiographical for the members of Fleetwood Mac is really what it was. But I think you feel those feelings in those songs, whether you know it or not, right?

There is an intensity and a depth and a powerful emotion in those songs, whether you know exactly what is happening in the studio or not happening in the studio. And I think those of us who kind of grew up with the record really define it through that anger, right? Really, that tension, it's, you know, these guys yelling at each other and then making these songs, it's the greatest breakup album of all time. but I think for younger listeners, you know, they hear, there's a range of emotions on rumors. There is, you make love and fun, which is about the beginning of a relationship. Christine going, now going out with one of the members of the crew, their lighting director, just to add to the nonsense that's going on. Then there's Go Your Own Way, which is an angry breakup song, but then there's the chain,

which is about, you know, that relationships are never over, that people are always a part of your life, whether you like it or not. Boy, I have to tell you... I think if you're a kid going through all those feelings for the first time, you hear all of those different things. You know, there's a lot that you can take away from this album that's not just the heartbreak of it, but all of the stuff before, during, and after that. And I think that's an important part of why it continues to speak to them.

Alan Light, once again, the book is Don't Stop Why We Still Love Fleetwood Mac's Rumors, and it's true. modern day you know speaking of the chain and it's what i was going to mention here is if you don't love me now you will never love me again it's just like boy that is like a knife through the heart and i mean just a damn your love damn your lie yeah right you know quite a lot and and i could see though as a modern 16 year old going hey i'm down with this okay that's what it feels like right you know the one thing i and that there's yeah go ahead please complete your thought There's both. There's three different singers and songwriters at different stages of those

relations, of where they are dealing with that, right? So it's constantly shifting. You're hearing different voices. You're hearing different perspectives, different sounds. There's a richness and a variety to rumors that, you know, I think especially for kids who maybe didn't grow up listening to a lot of albums as album, you know, it almost plays like this playlist for them where they can really, you know, commit to different, they hear different things, different moods at different times, go through that full experience, that's a very different thing than some of those other albums of that time that are, you know, maybe one sort of concept or idea, this gives them a different way to encounter this music. I wanted to ask one more question for you. I know you

have other people to talk to, Alan, but it has to do with one of the parts about it being a product of the 1970s was just massive drug use in drug addiction. That's covered in this book. By the way, great book. Loving the book, and I'm really enjoying this read. Would this album have been as good? I hate to say that drugs would help it. That's not what I'm saying.

I'm just like wondering, any idea how this would have been different had they not been all stoned or drunk out of their gourd? Well, I think all of that just adds to what we were saying about the rawness, the honesty. and, you know, you said, how did they keep it together to be able to keep going and working on it? Well, that was one way was, you know, maybe don't have to confront it quite so much if you're putting yourself in a little bit of a cocaine haze as you're going into the studio. But, again, whether you know all of that, you hear all of that.

And we think about this album maybe for the lushness, the smoothness of it. But really, there's a lot of rough edges on Roos. There's a lot of Mick Fleet would just beat in the hell out of the drums and, you know, the sort of distortion, you know, noise that's coming through on Lindsay's guitar and the fraying of their voices. There's a humanity to it that's something that's beyond, it's not just perfect. I mean, they're perfect songs. Yes. But there's also, you know, a depth and a feeling to their performances. And you said, kids today are, if you're all about the feelings, there's a lot of feel to feel on rumors.

that I think is part of the reason that 50 years later, it still connects so deeply with not just those of us who grew up with it, but those of us who are finding it through different, through TikTok, through, you know, the different places that it's appeared in the culture. In recent years, there's a lot for them to grab a hold of as well. I don't think they could have planned to have made this. Do you agree on that? oh no i mean you can't there's no there's no blueprint for going into uh or i know something with again all the off stage circumstances everything that's going on beyond and then uh also these you know the incredible performances um you know every every detail every second uh of rumors you know there's nothing that's wasted there's not a song to skip but there's not even a moment where the

intensity flags on the 40 whatever minutes of this album. I was astounded to find out reading this book, Ellen, and then I know you've got to go, but how we almost didn't save the album because they had warned the tape out, the master copy, and you pointed out how they had to do this miracle to save the album, and what would have been lost had they not been able to make it. It's incredible, and we think of these albums as, you know, they're organic and they're live in the studio, they're playing together. There is the only thing, the only time when the band is playing live on rumors is that instrumental section, the kind of freak out back half of the chain.

Everything else on here is immaculately constructed, overdub, put together to a point where, as you said, the tapes were literally falling apart, and they had to do this crazy sync backup to be able to not lose the entire session. That's how close they came to having to start over. But all of that figures into it. All of that is part of the story and all of that is part of the allure of this project all these years later. Great book. Don't stop why we still love Fleetwood Max rumors. And it's available at all the usual suspects here. Alan Light, we appreciate your music journalism. Thanks for having joined the show. Be well.

Bill, thank you so much. It's been a pleasure. You'll be well. You bet. Catch up on some more news. More of your calls because it is fine. Your phone Friday. All commerce here on KMED. The day after a judge freed Kilmer Obrego-Garcia, she makes sure he remains free. I'm Dave Antis. Listening to Fox News. Quarter after 8 of the Bill Myers Show, Jerry on the road. Jerry, I wasn't able to get you in with Alan, the music journalist, but you were wondering about something involving the Fleetwood Mac albums.

They were focusing on rumors for his book, but what were you thinking? Go ahead. I never quite figured out why it was so popular, especially when the album that preceded that. So good. Yeah, that was the one which was just called Fleetwood Mac, right? That one? Yeah.

The white cover. Yeah. Yeah. Just better music. Yeah, that was the one that had, if I understand, that was the one that had Riannon on it, wasn't it?

Yeah. And I think, say, if you love me, say you love me, rather, maybe World Turning was on that tour? Was World Turning on rumors? Now I'm going to have to get,

I'm getting all mixed up myself. I'll have to look. Yeah, that came out in the 70s, and I was looking at a song, the old single guy, had money to blow, so I got a good stereo. And that Flindwood Mac was the first album I played on it,

and it was just a blowline. It was so good. It was just on a good ball in stereo. I think that that Fleetwood Mac album, the White Album, as you termed it, at that point, was probably a technically superior album, you know, and maybe with musicianship.

But I think it was what ended up making, rumors was the depth of the emotional turmoil and I think there was also the well everybody well I think it was John McVee who actually came up with the term rumors because they were wondering well what should we call it well everybody's always talking telling rumors about us so let's just call it rumors and that's where it came from and I think that's why that ended up catching fryer also Stevie Nix was getting more popular during that album and I think that had a lot you know girls wanted to be her and the guys wanted her you know that kind of thing I think that

May I had something to do with it at the time. But I would agree with you that the one prior album to that is a very fine album. You're right. And Stevie Nix wasn't featured so much on it. No. The other talent, the better singer. Yeah, yeah.

She ended up a step. Christine McVee is, I think, highly underrated singer. Now, she passed away a few years ago. I remember that. But you know that one thing I found out in that book that I was talking with Alan about is the only reason that Stevie Nix ended up in Fleetwood Mac is that Christine McVee okayed it because the rest of the band were saying they wanted Lindsay

Lincoln because he was such an amazing guitarist and they just wanted him but he said well you know if you're going to get me you're going to have to take Stevie Nix with you too and they said okay well if we're going to bring another female in here then we better talk with Christine and then Christine okayed it because she and Stevie Nix ended up being come fast friends. And so that's the only reason why they ever joined in the first place. So a little background there, okay?

Well, we know, music industry kind of, I can't figure out. You've got a bohemian rhapsody by Queen, but they've got a long song on their first album called Liar that has so much better. It makes sense. Well, you're going to make me now look that up. It's been a while since I've gone into my queen. Thanks so much for the call, Jerry. Good hearing from you. Deplorable Patrick is here, too. It's open phones on Friday on the Bill Maher's show. Hi, good morning. Who's this? It's Patrick. Deplorable Patrick, Bill. Good morning.

DP, you have a Democrat scandal. Another Democrat scandal? It's a pretty good one. It better follow this. Do you remember a talk show host by the name of Dwayne Garrett? Dwayne Garrett. No, he escapes me. Sorry. Well, he was a daytime talk show host on a really big station, KGO, down in the Bay Area. Yeah, Bay Area, sure. And he was a prominent Democrat. Now, he had the 9 o'clock show. And such a prominent Democrat, in fact, that he was Al Gore's campaign manager and his president. presidential election. And this is before I knew much about liberal and conservative. I was driving truck all the time, and I was going up and down I-5 all the time. And when I got close enough that I thought I could pick up KGO, I would tune in and expect to hear Dwayne Garrett

had so many times. So I was getting sort of within range one day. This goes back into the mid-90s, I think 95, 96, right in there. Sure. So about 930, I said, hey, I should be tuning in KGO here, Dwayne Garrett, because I'm getting close enough to the station. Let me guess he was replaced. Yeah. Uh-huh.

So you're getting, that's a pretty decent guess. That's not enough of a scandal, though. So it was about 9.30, and I tuned in, and I didn't hear Dwayne Garrett. Yeah. I've heard a couple of his colleagues talking, and clearly tune in the middle of things, and something seemed to not be right, and I'm kind of trying to figure this out. and uh anyway uh yeah i just kind of wondering where you're going with this i mean okay so we have a talk show host behaving as a dirt bag okay fine i'm getting ahead of myself i got to

go pick up another part of the story so he was a prominent democrat plus he also had a home business selling sports memorabilia out of a big closet in his home you know autographed jerseys autographed gloves sure sure yeah yeah where's it going so i tuned in and uh liz cheska was having a hard time doing the news because she was fighting back tears and it turned out that uh duane garrett prominent democrat was not uh there to make it into his show because he is busy floating face down in the San Francisco Bay. Oh, I wasn't aware of that. All right.

So what turned out was he had sold all these sports memorabilia, and somebody was showing one of his vest, autographed, apparently to the guy that was supposed to have autographed. And it was a fake. It was a fake. Man, so, well, I guess is this common democratic behavior in your view? I mean, where are you going? Well, that was a good example of the level of integrity of the prominent Democrats in that day. And it turned out that a lot of people had fakes, and he had a lot of people to try to pay back.

And so he decided the easy way out was take a fly and dive off the Golden Gate Bridge. leaving behind a wife and two daughters and a mortgage. All right. Thanks for the look back at radio history. I hope to never have to do anything like that. All right. That's right. All right.

All right. Kim Commandos Digital Update coming up. Your call's coming up here too. I do want to talk about the survey, the City of Metford Street Survey. Did you see that story? Have you heard the latest on this one? Yeah, we'll kick it around. hour of the Bill Myers Show is sponsored by Fontana Roofing. For roofing gutters and sheet metal

services, visit Fontana Roofing Services.com. It's the holiday love celebrity. Rove River in South Jackson County on 1067 K294A.S. Ashland. The Bill Myers Show is on. News Talk 1063 KMED. 26 after 8, taking your call 7705-633. Dawn, is it? Is it Dawn? Is it I don't know. Oh, yeah, it is Dawn. Hello, Dawn. You wanted to talk about the San Francisco talk show host that Deplorable Patrick was mentioning a few minutes ago, ended up taking a dive off the bridge back in the days and involved with sports memorabilia.

And you wanted to add something to that? You were friends of this guy? We were close personal friends. We fish together on and off. And who was the talk show host again, the former talk show host? That's right. What was his name again? Dwayne Garrett.

Dwayne Garrett, okay. And what did you know about that? Maybe adding a little dimension to what Patrick had mentioned. Well, you know, I don't know a whole lot about exactly what went on. I just know about Dwayne. He was a great guy. I truly one of the finest men I've ever met. And just because we disagreed politically didn't mean we couldn't be friends.

And I think that that's a thing that's greatly missing, society today. Agreed. And secondarily, I think Duane got sold a bunch of stuff by a very clever forger, and he was so embarrassed by it that he couldn't see a way out and ended his life. Oh, so that's another angle. You're sure you thinking he didn't know that he was selling a whole bunch of fakes on sports memorabilia?

No, no, that was not Duane Garrett. A lot of people like to paint him with that brush. I don't believe it for a second. We all get taken in sometimes. Oh, yeah. It's what happens. Hey, there have been times I've been taken in with a news story, too, that I thought was true. Well, that's right.

That's right. And then you find out embarrassed, but that didn't cause any problems like that. But, boy, if you had sold people tens of thousands of dollars worth of merchandise, and then you find out it's all fake, oh, boy, that's not good. It wasn't all fake. He got caught in some fakes. It wasn't all fake. Okay.

Well, I appreciate you sharing another angle of that story, kind of the other side of Mr. Garrett. Okay? I appreciate the opportunity. Thanks. All right. And thanks for calling and sharing. It's what we do here in the Bill Meyers show. It's 829.

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In fact, you are my jingle partner a few weeks ago. How you doing this morning, Lauren? I'm doing great. Thank you for having it. Okay, great to hang. Oh, I just realized, try that again. I don't think I heard you. Oh, go ahead.

Thank you for having it. Now I can hear you. All right, to go along with this. And also joining us in studio here is Captain Johani. Hello, Captain. Hi, good morning, Bill. Don't have to salute? Not quite.

Okay. Now, you are with the Grants Pass Corps. Yes, correct. Okay. Today we're going to be talking about the food pantry mostly here, and is that pretty much what you're hoping? Because what's a real indicator of some of the strain going on in the Southern Oregon economy is what? You had 1,500 people used the pantry last year. Yes.

What are we looking at this year? You want to take a stab at that? I mean, the increase has been significant. In early this year, we were seeing a 40% increase, and now in the last, what, 11 months, we've seen almost 230% increase in services requests from food to rental utility assistance, clothing vouchers, you name it, and we just can't keep our pantry stocked.

The demand is just so much. So the pantry's empty at times? A lot of the times, yes. Wow, okay. Okay. Well, let me put it this way. What is the best food or protein that we can bring that is most in need, let's say. I understand it's probably protein, but I could be wrong about that. Yeah, you know, at least for us, our goal is to provide nutritious food, not just your canned goods. So any protein, dairy, milk, cereal, oatmeal, fiber, anything that we can provide that would bring a wholesome meat. meal to a family that's that's our goal okay now when you talked about that milk and things do you have refrigeration things to be able oh good okay so i was just wondering like okay you want to donate

some dairy or something it just can't sit out on the shelf and with the price of eggs too i mean eggs also yeah great source of protein yeah and frankly fortunately though the price of eggs have come down a little bit you know we're not looking at the 10-12 dollar a dozen thing anymore thank good right right yeah remember that but that's a big deal though, but when you go from having, let's say, 1,500 calls for service and then we're at about what, isn't it 5,000 this year? Yep. Yeah.

Okay. Yeah, tripling. That is pretty big stuff. And what is mostly in need? You're talking about nutritious food, but are you trying to stay away, when you say nutritious food, are you talking about staying away from the junk food or what? I just want to be specific about this when I have people go and donate to you, okay? Sure.

I mean, it's a bit of a mix, right? We definitely want to provide the nutritious food. However, we understand that we need to have some canned goods available, things that are easy to open, especially for, you know, those that don't have the capacity to cook, you know, with a stove that just rely on microwaves. And so we need to have a mix of, you know, the canned goods, pasta, rice, cup of noodle, cereals. Okay. Yeah, not everybody is cooking hard. That's why you sometimes need some of that, too. so that's great how do we donate here let's go with the different markets here in grants pass

where do we go yeah you can take it directly to our food pantry at 1377 redwood avenue we take donations on site or through our website at grantspass dot salvation army dot org okay very good what about in the medford area um our to our social services office is 922 north central here in medford um or you can find out more information same uh website is jackson county that salvation Army.org. All right, very good. Now, there's been actually some great corporate support coming in from some of the local businesses. You want to talk about some of the good news here? Yeah, well, at least in Grant's Pass, we were able to collaborate with Mason Smith, who is known as Dad Social on Instagram. Oh, Dad Social, yeah. Yes, it's been so exciting. He was so willing to step up and not just donate

food, but he's like, I want to do something more. And so we had a conversation. We pitched our idea. We wanted our pantry to feel like a grocery store. We wanted our families to feel dignified and feel welcomed. Not to look like a dark hole. Yeah, it's not just a warehouse. And so he heard the vision and he made it possible. And so now it's just looks so inviting and so welcoming. It's been really neat to see the reaction from the families coming in. You know, a lot of them come broken, stressed out because they're trying to figure out how to make ends meet. And so for us to be able to provide a space where you know it just gives them a smile and makes them feel welcome it it has meant the world to us yeah and loz donated quite a bit yes didn't they like a whole bunch of

shelves for the pantry 18 shelves 18 pretty cool pretty good stuff and so there have been donations coming in but you always need more and do you have enough people to run the places though that's kind of what i'm wondering because uh in in the past year Lauren you were talking about uh in in real serious need for bell ringers and for people to help out in some of the warehouses. What's the status of that? So we actually are starting a new system here in Medford for our food pantry. We are going to be needing some more hands to help on Mondays and Thursdays to walk our clients through. So we need volunteers that will kind of be like a personal shopper that will walk through with our clients

and assisting in getting the items off the shelves for them for our clients for their food box. Okay, so a personal shopper. Is that something new? A different way of doing it? This is a new thing. Yes, we're kicking off the new system on Monday the 15th. And it'll be a Monday and Thursday need for volunteers. All right.

Well, we're getting down here to the final few days before Christmas at this point. Are we still looking for bell ringers too? Always. Always. Always need bell ringers. Yeah, there's a part of me that sheds a tear when I go into a store and I see a kettle and there's nobody standing by it because that's like a volunteer that wasn't available. Right.

And, you know, we've seen a great increase in our volunteer bell ringer. this year, and it's incredible. It's substantial. Yes, for Medford. Yes. We need more bell ringers out in Grants Pass. We sure do, yes. So Branch Pass needs more of that, huh?

I checked this morning, we are short 474 shifts between now and Christmas. Whoa. Yes, that is a significant. Yeah, and the shifts are what, two or four hours? Two hours. Okay, two hours. Come on, you can contribute a couple hours. You know, it's missed opportunities when we don't have someone out there.

Right now, we received an incredible anonymous gift by a local, family to match up to $100,000. So every dollar in our kettle right now is being doubled. And so when we don't have someone out there, we miss that opportunity of doubling that gift that can make a double impact throughout the year. So we really need all the volunteers we can get registered to ring.com. Okay, register to ring.com. So I don't have to be too, too guilty then because I always, I can't walk past any of the kettles

without tossing something in. You know, I just can't. But now I know, okay, yeah, now that $5 becomes 10, 10 becomes. 20 you put in a hundred bucks today you know right when we were bell ringing that day a few weeks back the first person by dropped a hundred bucks in there yeah and on that day our kettle kickoff it was 20 times so every dollar was 20 20 bucks yeah i didn't know that so so the 1200 dollars that the kmody listeners ended up kicking it ends up being by 20 by 20 yeah so that's that's like 24 000 cool all right it was incredible this is the way some of the benefactors of the salvation army are

helping out. So if you can, register to ring.com. Once again, let's talk about how to help out in the Medford office to get into social services if you can help and be a shopper or a shopping assistant, I guess, where you go again? I'd go to jackson county.salvationarmy.org or you can call me at 541-773-6-965. All right. And of course, we have, once again, Captain Johani, how do we get into the Grants Pass store? Yes, you can come down to our pantry. at 1377 Redwood Avenue. Again, you can visit our website, Grantspass.Savationarmy.org or call us,

and we would be glad to get you plugged in. We can use volunteers all year round, and you can call us at 541, 955, 10, 17. And, of course, right now, really serious needs deal on volunteer bell ringers. A lot of shifts available. It's really no stress. It doesn't take a lot of physical effort.

If you can move your hand back and forth a little bit and say thank you. You're good. Yeah, that's it. That's it. And Merry Christmas. Very good. And Lauren and Captain Johani, we appreciate you coming on.

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Join in at 770-5-633-770K-MED. Let's see breaking news. House Democrats release new Epstein photos. Okay, what kind of photos would they have that nobody else would have? Oh, photos that include President Trump, former President Bill Clinton, and former Prince Av and Andrew. Okay. Well, are they doing something, well, dittling kind of things? or, you know, is it those kind of photos, if not?

Okay, so it's, what is that all about? I don't know, but that is supposedly going to feed the news cycle this weekend, I guess. All right, 7705-633. Hey, Gar writes me this morning, Bill, that's funny. I'm literally sitting here checking out two Rumors albums and Greatest Hits vinyl albums that I got for my daughters for Christmas. I was talking with Alan White, you know, who, of course, wrote the book about rumors and it was talking about how the the amazing the amazing well i guess

enduring prop the enduring popularity is what i'm trying to say of the rumors album and the incredible influence that is still having today much more than many of the other classic rock classic rock albums that are out there anyway we can talk about that 770 k m ed another story that i wanted you to uh to touch in on here ko b i reporting That results are in from the Medford Main Street redesign survey. Remember when they ended up destroying it with the current design? Medford City Councilors asked the public last month to weigh in on four different configurations for downtown's Main Street. Data from both an in-person and an online survey was collected.

Counselors said that they got around 4,000 responses, 400 of which were determined to be duplicates from the same IP address or bots. Is that true, though? The reason I bring that up is how about husbands and wives or how about more than one person if the husband says one thing and the wife thinks something differently, you just said because it came from the same IP address, it doesn't count? I think that's rather odd. But anyway, option A, ranking the highest, turning the street back to its previous configuration before 2023, both in the in-person and online survey putting

Main Street back to the way it was before the city council a past city council broke Main Street this is the number one response now then what's really interesting is that the city council though is leaning not to the survey

but they're leaning toward option C which includes a buffered bike lane what is this incessant licksbiddle tongue kissing it's like a political tongue kissing of the bike lane agenda what is it in the city of medford that is just giving this wet sloppy kiss to the spandex mafia all the time if you're on main street and downtown on Medford? Which lanes are actually moving most people? How often do you see a bike in the bike lanes that they have right now? Oh, like almost never. What is this? What is this Jedi mind trick that the Medford City Council is trying to pull with us saying, oh, we really want

your citizen input on the main street. Oh, so the main street, oh, you want us to take Main Street and put it back to the way it was before we broke it? Oh, well, yeah, okay, I know that's what the survey say, but we want to have option C, buffered bike lanes, because we have to have buffered bike lanes, because why is the question I'm going to be asking? Do we have to have another survey in which we say, yes, City of Medford, we want Main Street, put back the way it was and we really, really, really mean it. And is there another option that says, okay, we want you to put it back to the way it was, city of Medford, stupid? And then how about, hey, moron, we want it put back? I mean, how many times do the citizens have to actually

weigh in on this before the city council realizes that they don't give a flying flip about bike lanes and the spandex mafia on main street it doesn't mean you don't have bike lanes but it doesn't have to be on main street maybe one response should be on the on the next survey they come up with that they want to ignore it and it's just like yeah we want you to put it back we want you to put back main street the way it was before or we recall all of you it's time for a recall. You know, Josephine County seems to make sport of having a great time doing recalls all the time. But I have to tell you, if the city of Medford is going to go with Plan C, when the citizens have clearly weighed in and they say they just want it put back to the way

it was, parking available for vehicles in front of stores, et cetera, et cetera. I would get rid of those parkettes, too, by the way, in my opinion. That's additional parking that could be going in downtown Medford, but that's another conversation. But, um, maybe it's time to start recalling them I don't know how you get through to the skulls that say we have said you have asked us what our opinion was we have told you loud and clear

put it back put Main Street back together again but they're still wanting to take it apart with bike lanes that will be mostly unused 99.9% of the time what is their grant stream funding about that anyway that's my my rant i don't i don't like being unkind about this one but it's irritating and it uh it makes you wonder why they no wonder people get so cynical about our local governments

when you have these big surveys they've advertised it people respond to it and then if uh two people respond from the same house with the same IP address well that's a bot no how about it's just people in the same household man but anyway That's what's on my mind today and for this weekend. We'll have to continue to talk about this because they're going to decide in January to ignore the people, you're going to ignore the people, or you're going to pay attention to the people? And if they're not going to pay attention to the people, they deserve taken out of office,

don't they? Removed from office. 770K.M.D. Good morning. Hi. Who's this? Welcome. Morning, Bill. Tom, here. Hello, Tom. What are you thinking? Well, made a kudos for... Wednesday award and everything you deserve everything everyone's saying on the praise there. Thank you. It's very kind. You bet. Well, I sincerely believe that.

Oh, okay. And a quick one on the three, I think this is one exception to that. You're just not up the speed. You must realize that by 2050, having a bike lane on Main Street will lower global warming by one billion percent. Oh, okay, yeah, that's it. Tom, you get the real American salute for coming up. That's the plan. That must be what they're thinking at this point, not to put thoughts in their mouths, but... Absolutely, but I wanted to talk about there's an article on Newsmax, and Holman, they're the head of the, you know, the border right now. He's a Catholic. But he's talking about how there's no victim of us crimes from open borders. And he talks about the drugs, child trafficking, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And then there's a little controversy back

in Boston. Apparently, a Catholic church took away all the figures in their nativity scene and put a big sign that says, sorry, ICE was here. Oh, you kidding me. Yeah, they're Catholic. You know, I think there's a lot of misplaced, you called it misplaced love, but misplaced charity. Yeah, many Catholic churches, unfortunately, are going down the road of love for the invader rather than love for those that are more deserving of the love right now. You always take care of your own people best first, the order of priority, the priority of love.

out there. Yes, exactly. It's a good take when you presented that. I also concur with that. Tom, thank you so much. Great call. I appreciate that. And I try to squeeze a few more calls. We'll have private to pick up a lot of our topics again on Monday. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome. Hi, Bill. Glad our Chandelow. Glad. Welcome. Hey, quick message. It's flooding badly in western Washington. Yes. where our gasoline and diesel comes from, and it's looking bad. So coming up, I think we have to start talking about it.

We need more sources of energy because we are really risking it right now. 90% of our fuel comes from where it's flooding right now. And is there a possibility the flooding could break the pipeline again? Do you know? Probably get into other infrastructure, into the refineries, pump stations. Oh, yeah. And we've been through this drill before, so this isn't new. But, boy, it sure came at a bad moment.

They suffered getting that pipeline back together, and now it's flooding it. All right, point well taken. Thank you so much for making that, Glenn. It's 858. We grab one more call, maybe two, if I can squeeze them in. Hi, who's this? Morning. Hello?

Good morning, David from Phoenix. Hi, David. Go ahead. Yeah, good morning, Bill. isn't there something that they took the money from ODOT to redo to repave the streets and it has to stay? I mean, I don't like it, but it has to stay that way for like five or seven years. There was part of that with some grant stream funding of a few years ago, and maybe that's what they're trying to do is not have to spend any money to, you know, give back some of the money because of the lanes, of the bike lanes. but if so, I'm sorry, David, we're still at this point where you're asking us to say to tell them what to do, we tell you what to do, and then they're saying, well, we like this one still better, and it's still more of the same nonsense that got us where mainstream is broken right now as it is.

Everybody in government, once they get in there, they want to do what they want to do and the hell with the people. I mean, I haven't seen it play out any differently ever. All right. Well, let's hope that we can bring them along and educate, all right, kindly, if possible, more forcefully and emphatically. All right. Anyway, on that note, got a roll here. And about an hour from now, I'm just going to, let me just put it this way, okay, an hour from now, they're going to be starting the wreaths across America. And that's going on at Eagle Point National Semmel. He calls it Rotten to the Corps on Lisa Brady. Fox News. Every governor should say, you know what? Hang on. I'll get back to Fox News in just a second, all right?

Reiths across America, this is something going on at the Eagle Point National Cemetery. 10 o'clock is when it starts. If you join me there, Linda's going to join me there for a while. We're going to be taking wreaths and putting them on specified military graves there, okay? If you're available, join me. Many hands make light work. Okay, we'll do that. Now I will go back to Fox News, okay, on KMED and KMED HD-1 Eagle Point, Metford, KBXG grants pass.

Same judge released him yesterday. The Trump administration says he's in the country illegally and has ties to a violent gang, and they plan to keep fighting to deport him.