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Episode Date: December 16, 2025

Dr. Powers profiles Daniel Henderson: Inventor, Entrepreneur, Sculpturer, then a lot of conversation on the Ashland Community Hospital closure with Asante.

The Bill Myers Show podcast is sponsored by Klausur drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausordrilling.com. 13 minutes after 8, we're standing by for Dr. Dennis Power is a retired professor of business law. And I think we got him now. I believe that is, is that you, Dennis? Welcome back. Good morning.

Yes, it is. Oh, good, good. Okay. All right. Good to have you here because we're past meets present. it is a tradition. We have to do this. We only have, gosh, one more until the end of the year. And I got that for you, my friend. Congratulations again. And in any event, it's always my pleasure. And it was wonderful, wonderful, your kind words after what happened last week with the Jackson County Commission,

you know, the Commissioner's Chairman's Award. That was a lot of fun. Thank you. Oh, we set it around and you certainly deserved it. I've been seeing that. And so anyway, well done, my friend. Well, you've been a big part of that too, all right? And so, I'm kind of curious. You know, you have written a show. I was going through my bookshelf over the weekend, and I was looking at treasure ship and sentinel of the seas. You got to write any more books? I know that maybe you're not as interested in doing that these days. You wrote some wonderful books. You ever going to hit that again? Just curious. Well, I've been so busy on the past ones. As a matter of fact, I have, you know, a public TV that's now doing a documentary on treasurer's,

so I had two days of filming on that. So they answer your question, my friend, I'm happy to be with you. Okay. In other words, I'm going to take it a little easier, just a little easier, that sort of thing. Oh, actually, as the energizer, Bunny of the two of us, you are the one that we are saying, give them another battery, but it doesn't need it. All right. Now, I'm a big fan of inventors, so I wanted to talk about your latest one, your latest piece

today, and it has to do with Daniel Henderson, and it's kind of an interesting combination of skills, inventor, entrepreneur, and sculptor. So I'm looking forward to this. What's up? Yes. Yes, as a matter of fact, the one about Dan Henderson is one of those. real sleepers that I fell into. It's an extraordinary story. Well, tell us about how he came to be and why he is maybe someone off the beaten path

that we should know here from Southern Oregon. Okay, thanks, Bill. Dan Henderson's father was an award-winning creative director and artist, so that gave his son, Dan, in ambience, if you will, So he grew up woodworking, painting, signs, sketching, restoring cars, and lots of different things. But after Medford schools and service in the U.S. Marine Corps, Bill Henderson came and earned two degrees from Southern Oregon University. And I knew these professors, a bachelor of science degree in business. He was an intern in the practicum, which I was involved in, which is real-time experience, and talking with.

students to prepare them for a business career. And in that, he also waited on tables at IHOP while he then went ahead and had worked for IBM in the practicum, which gave him a real job in Texas where I learned to sell all of the company's entire line of products, and that was with IBM. And that was in the days of the typewriters and word processors, his real job. But it wasn't his calling, so to speak, right? Well, what's interesting is that his calling led him into being an assistant to Kazul Hashimoto, who was the inventor of caller ID in the modern answering machine. And then also, Bill, working with Jack Kilby, who was the inventor of the computer trip,

computer chip, and he was a noble laureate for that discovery. So this is pretty elevated people that he's hanging out with, right? It is, but it was at that cusp and time when if you were really bright and you had the interest and also the ability that you could end up with, let's say, an assistantship to Kazuo Hashimoto. And so what he did then, at a fairly young age, is that he set up his own technology companies. This is being Dan Henderson. And Bill, this is what really astounds me.

There are two things, my friend. One is that he has the patent, 30 patents, for wireless picture and video messaging for cell phones. It's used in every cell phone in the world, and it came right from here. No, I didn't know that. So practically anything involving pictures and voice and message all kind of went through Dan Henderson's lab, I guess, in one form or another, or his creative process. That what you're telling me?

Really? That's perfect, Bill, and what's so amazing. And this was one of those real sleeper stories where I came across it through the work I do with the Foundation for Southern Oregon University, and I came into it because he was then on the SOU Foundation Board of Trustees in the early 2000s. But in any event, his patents are cited in over 1,000 patents for wireless picture and video messaging. And this is really amazing. So he is a multi-multi-millionaire.

I imagine so. Yeah. And was totally underneath the horizon with what he was doing. He was, but then I came more, when I was still teaching at SOU, my friend, he was named the outstanding alumnus in 1999 by SOU. And this, in this bill, this really stands out because then you get into. to Sid DeBore, you get into a number of locals who have been so regionally and nationally known on that recognition. So he was involved being Dan Henderson in numbers of different fundraising. But then

he was elected to the National Academy of Inventors in 2022. And in any event, he is a sculpture, but it's amazing on this story because no one has really heard of Dan Henderson, and yet everyone the $7 billion on this planet have been using his invention, and it's just totally seamless, and the way that he was able to do it in working with it. And I was just thinking, Bill, how would he have done it in terms of working with Jack Kilby? Yeah. And Hashimoto, well, I am sure that he would say, I have an idea. Would you mind if I went with it? And by the way, for your work, I'll give you a share of the patents. To have these many patents and these many, this much royalty coming in, he apparently lives in Texas, but he loves his sculpturing. So he's not an Elon Musk who has gone ahead and being so public. with his life, he has really been quiet and so amazingly has contributed here and in the world.

I guess there was one time in 2012 you noted here that he was on a Best Buy Super Bowl ad, but that may have been probably the highest profile thing he ever did in 2012 on that Super Bowl ad. That's exactly right. That would have been 13 years ago. And usually that would be involved, and it's a good point. great point you're bringing out, is that he would have worked out some type of a deal with Best Buy to allow himself to be doing that because he really goes out of his way to do his, to keep his private life, and yet it's just an amazing one that I felt fortunate to come across.

I find it interesting now. I'm kind of curious, how old is he or roughly? You know, I don't know what. Oh, thanks, Bill. He's roughly in his 60s, mid-60s. Okay. So he's about my age, a real underachiever from the sounds of it. Okay. At least I'm feeling like an underachiever now. But still, so is he still doing inventing, or is he more or less now at the point where, hey, I just as soon do a sculpture for the rest of my life. What's his story? I have a – he is really – if you look at his sculptures, you'll find out that these are not computer-generated designs. But what he does, or computer-aided, but he does traditional stone carving, and he has a number of public exhibitions in large-scale stone sculpturing around the world, which is his passion now. But I will imagine that he has brought in others who will be running all of the royalties and the parts of companies. sure that he has parts of because of the royalty that he has as to such an incredible aspect of cell phones.

All right. Well, looking at the cell phone, I'm always going to think about this. Okay, I'm going to send a little picture, a little picture message, and we can thank Dan Henderson for that, for a big part of it. And it really is amazing. And here in Southern Oregon, you know, not at Harvard or in Cambridge, and not in, you Not in MIT, that sort of thing. Or San Diego, or even in the Silicon Valley.

But it's an incredible story that, frankly, when I first, it was just a small blur in the SOU alumni magazine from the Foundation, the SOU Foundation. I said, are you kidding me? Yeah. Yeah, well, we need to learn a little bit more about that. Hey, hang on, Doc. We'll be back more because we're past meets present. that's sort of the past, and he's in the present right now. And let's take it over to the latest lawfare.

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Good morning. This is News Talk 1063, KMED. And you're waking up with the Bill Myers Show. Happy holiday. Happy holiday. Andy Williams, Dr. Powers, weren't we all issued a copy of the Andy Williams' Christmas album back in 1964? I think every American family got it, right?

It was wonderful. Yeah, I think it was that way. Just sort of like when I was in the suburbs in 1976, we all got a copy of Fleetwood Mac Rumors. You just issued it to you. You moved into the neighborhood, and boom, there you go. But anyway, hey, I wanted to touch on something, kind of a serious story here with the closure and the downgrading.

I guess it's going to be kind of more of a satellite clinic of the Ashland Community Hospital with Asante announcing that recently. And you used to be on the Ashland Community Hospital Board. And so I think you have an interesting, probably perspective, on what is going on here. I think one of the things that came off to me was, or came clear to me, is that Ashland Community Hospital has been circling the drain, what, for decades before this particular situation, or do you think there's more to that?

Can you help us understand a bit of that? Yeah, I was on, there were two boards, and I was on the Foundation, you know, Ashley's and Community Hospital Foundation Board for some eight years. And we saw this in the types of information that we received that the board itself was getting. If we go back to that time period, Bill, we have a situation where, you know, Providence first came in because the ACH, the hospital itself had been losing money and was really running the problems. Why? Obamacare. The things that the people did not know about Obamacare was horrific. What is it having to do with the scaling back of reimbursements for particular

B, not behaviors, procedures, is what I was thinking of it. That kind of thing. That was part of it. But other things that were really incredible was that if there was a threshold, for example, for different types of infections in operations that if you were over a certain limit. You had more infectious rates than... Yeah, then you being a hospital would not get reimbursement. The problem with that, though, is that that can also come from your taking on the tougher cases.

Isn't that the case? Well, it's also almost generic because regardless of the problems that you have in terms of surgical procedures by themselves, my friend, the ability to have infections throughout there is just think about a new admission that comes in, and it is difficult to do. But you see, what happened was that the hospital then, even when Asante made then the bid, They wouldn't take Providence, being the city council, which had a strong relationship in this, because of the fact that Providence was religious and they were concerned about abortion. So they go ahead.

Yeah, well, it was very important to preserve abortion, in other words, right? Yeah, and so they go with Asante, but what happens is that there were a number of things that they were concerned about in the initial acquisition those years ago. which had to do right off the bat with a number of employees. There was, it had to be continued. That being Ashland Community Hospital had to be continued as a hospital with a $4 million fine paid to the city if they didn't operate the facility as a general hospital through 2028, which meant that they had to at least have general medical maternity and surgical surgery. services. So is that, is that the deal right now? Are they going to have to pay the city of

Ashland off then because of this? Well, I am sure that they had a lot of discussions that haven't come to fruition yet as to, you know, this is what about 15 years since then. But to give an example, Asante then, is making this into a satellite campus. They're going to end inpatient care and close this birthing center by spurring. And I know that questions were, especially here in Ashland, when you have duplicated facilities, why would you keep a birthing center in this area? So you have a situation where you had the city that was totally involved. And they are saying, though, that the city attorney that got involved in this, that it's the city's

attorney that Asante will continue to operate ACH under Rogue Regional General's General hospital license. And so when this then comes through as change. So it's still technically a hospital, but it's not really. That kind of thing. It's like licensed as a hospital, but not providing as many services. Yeah, in terms of, Bill, the entire Asante, including, you know, it's headquartered in Medford.

But the key thing that we're going through here is the fact that because you have a city council that is certainly like which not what you'd find in Texas. You have this continuing negotiations going through. And you see, the decline in numbers of these is, for example, it was released that only 37 Ashen residents gave birth at the facility in 2025. And with insurance reimbursements, they are losing money on that one. Now, is that true, though, because And the reason I was going to bring this up is that a listener popped me a substack from Corbin Trent. Corbin Trent in America's Undoing. That's the name of his substack there.

And he's a Bernie bro. I mean, so I know he's coming from the left. So I always have to make sure and filter it. But it doesn't mean he's necessarily right or wrong, actually, I should say. And he brought up that he thinks that Asante lied at that about the number of burrots. birth sin, and this is what he writes. He says the birth center is where Asante's manipulation gets specific enough to count. ASA only claims only 37 Ashland residents gave birth at the hospital in 2025. So why keep it open for 37 patients? But if you talk to the nurses who actually work there,

the real number is around 210 births per year. And apparently what they do is that they stop counting babies and start counting zip codes. The Asante only counted mothers who lived within the Ashland city limits. But if you drove from talent or Phoenix or from Medford or from across the California border, Asante, according to this story, deleted them from the spreadsheet. Are you aware of that kind of stuff going on? Is that for real? We don't know for sure. I'm just asking I'm tossing it out there. That sounds very conspiratorial. Yeah. And Asante has had enough hits, that what it's going through, that whether or not you say it's 37 bursts, which is in the different releases that is made, or it's more than that, they are still losing a ton of

money on that. All right. Now, this is the other thing I wanted to understand, too, because I talked about this already this morning. Now, remember, the guy who wrote this is making some hay right now, but he's kind of a Bernie bro. We know we know that. And that doesn't mean he's wrong.

But I don't think it's the whole story. He talked about how there was a $10 million profit on Ashland Community Hospital last year, 2024, is how they looked at it, $10 million after the expenses were paid. But then Asante bills them $17 million for corporate costs. And people are going, well, so the hospital was making $10 million out of about $80 million operating money. So, you know, it was making a profit, but it doesn't make a profit now because Asante bills him. And I said, well, the reason for that is that, if I understand this correctly, Ashland Community Hospital can't operate without Asante's corporate lawyers or their billing department or their attorneys that will defend malpractice cases and things like that.

And so don't they have to pay that as part of a regular business relationship then? I would call that a hit piece. The reason is that everything that I've learned in terms of with doctors here and nurses and people having lived here for 35 years, I will guarantee you that they have been losing money on the ACH, and a lot of this going back and forth is what you'd anticipate to read by someone that's saying, oh, well, Obamacare is beautiful. we need to have that socialized medicine. Yeah. And knowing exactly what's happened and staying in touch with it, I would conclude that as a hit piece and that here your listeners and residents should pray that Asante is able to weather the storm that is happening here because...

Well, I'm just wondering if even Asante is going to be going concerned because of the nurse case, the nurse malpractice case. I mean, that one could actually remove Asante's ability to be a going concern, wouldn't you think? Or has the potential? Well, that's going to be one having been in medical malpractice where the big disputes have not come to the public's attention, has not been reported by the courier, which is the fact that you have intense negotiations going on between the insurance carriers and the actual dollars going out of pocket. Yeah, but if there's not, but from what I understand,

Dan, I'm told that Asante is operating at the max of their corporate insurance limit right now. Oh, I don't know. I don't have that specific type of thing that they're max, and I would doubt very much as to the fact that they're at their max now because those discussions have not been made public. Okay, all right, that's what an insider was telling me, or acclaimed insider, but you know what acclaimed insider can be, right? I'm not going to claim to be an insider because I think that's easy to be done.

But throughout Southern Oregon, you better hope that Asante makes this, because otherwise, you're going to be driving to Portland. Well, no, I would agree with you. I'm not trying to badmouth Asante. I'm just trying to be realistic about this. But I know that it's unrealistic for this blogger, this substacker, to say that, well, Ashland made a profit. You have to share the corporate costs, because otherwise, the Ashland Hospital couldn't exist. If you're just looking at the cost of medicine versus what you pay the doctors and nurses,

that's a shallow way of explaining it in my view. And I just wanted to run that by and make sure that I understood this correctly. You can't do that. Well, you could also see, Bill, when all of us go through ACH, the Ashen Community Hospital, which is really Asante, is that you can see the changes that have been made over the last five years, just walking through. You can see what they've been doing in terms of numbers of personnel, which has left. And part of the problem, too, is you have the use of the emergency ward by different patients going in there that don't have insurance.

Yeah. In other words, and also the illegal alien population. We have to be honest about that. That's afflicting the whole system. Absolutely. All the things that people aren't saying because they want socialized medicine. All right. Fair enough.

Hey, Doc, why don't you hang on here just a minute, and we'll be back. We'll continue this conversation, all right, and make it happen, all right? I appreciate you being here this morning. Dr. Dennis Power is retired professor of business law. This is KMED. Dear Santa, I hope you are having a good day in the North Pole. Dot com. CCB number 32787. All righty, gold and silver, just screaming higher today.

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844, hand change. Talking with Dr. Powers, retired professor of business law at Southern Oregon University, about the changes over at Ashland Community Hospital and Asante looking to shut that down. He used to be on the board, on the foundation board a number of years ago. Brad, you wanted to the way in on this, too, because this really is a big, big, big, big deal, for sure. Go ahead.

Bill, Brad Bennett, who's calling the award-winning radio talk show host Bill Meyer and the August Dr. Powers. You know, this is a big deal. You know, over in Baker City, they just shut down their local birthing center. So now any gal there in Baker City, the close. closest place they can drive is either Ontario, an hour and a half away, or LaGrand, which is 45 minutes in the wintertime over dangerous. This is big stuff. And Dr. Powers, the question that I have for you is, is speaking as an attorney and an attorney that understands how a risk is managed with medical institutions, you are probably aware. I know that Bill is, three days

ago, an award of $32 million was awarded in Connecticut to a couple who claims that the hospital mismanaged the feeding of their infant. And then the infant unfortunately didn't make it, but they were just awarded $32 million because they say that the hospital did not nourish their infant correctly while they were in there. How much do gigantic awards like this affect risk management and factor into whether hospitals decide to keep these birthing centers? open. That is a great question, Brad. I appreciate you asking. Doc, could you weigh in on that? Yeah, thanks, Brad. That really is a good issue. The first thing is on 32 million. That's going to be one where it's appealed. You have a number of different aspects that come in on that in terms of

it seems like punitive damages. So legally, you have that situation where that is a problem. which does show up in the malpractice insurance. But I'd like to go to also, if I may, Brad, the facts have to do with Asante. What people may not know, which is the fact that the key thing here, and I remember these discussions, and even when I was asked to come back on the board, you know, eight years later, now you've got to remember that this acquisition was 12 years ago. So we're talking about fairly recent information.

But this birthing center was one to where they do it with a method. It's called psychological birth. And I remember that coming up. It was a method of delivery that invoids unnecessary medical interventions, which means that water birth. and water births is what this, you know, that they went ahead in Ashton. News, actually, that came in, you know, from Justin Public Radio, was that this particular nurse was one that really has a petition going on to keep this type of birthing in there. Now, is that a riskier birth for a liability, though?

I'm not really familiar with this story there. I had a client, and I can't mention his name. I had a client who was very holistic, and his wife gave a water birth here in Ashland, and that particular one is that there are different places that, are birthing experts that they are doing this regardless of whether it takes place in the hospital or not. And the thing I keep thinking about, my friends, is that let's go back to, you know, our grandparents and parents. They didn't have birthing centers, and they did just fine. So I'm talking practically, and this is a situation that a nurse, which, you know, bless her,

doesn't want to take the transfer, and this is in the news release that was by the Justin Public Radio, Justin Higginbottom, and in there, they're talking about the fact that she does not want to go ahead and transfer to keep her job to some other place she likes where she's at. Now, bless her. I'm not saying she's right or wrong. Yeah, but how does this then affect this situation when you hear this talk about the birthing center closing, all the rest of it is. I'm trying to understand, okay, so a nurse wants

to do water birthing. So what? Is this nurse in charge or what? Yes. Yes. It's in the article. Yes. I don't want to mention her name, but I'll tell you, when you go to ashen.com news and look into it, you can read it word for word. Is this a problem in your view? And this is where, well, I think the reason why it's a problem is the fact that people want to keep a water birthing center. There's a petition going out. This is an issue that's being made that I think is very unfair to Asante, and it's showing the spiritualism, if you will, of Ashland, against the rest of Southern Oregon. Okay, all right, I understand.

Does that help, Brad, anyway? Does that help explain a little bit? You know, I didn't know any of that as far as the water berthing in that, but what I do know is that when the bean counters look at exposure and managing risk, they talk to people like Dr. Powers, and if you've got $32 million awards being handed out out there, that's something that gets their attention. Yeah, I would imagine so. Yeah, Brad, I think that's an excellent point, and I agree with you, because I've been in on those discussions with the attorneys in terms of medical procedures.

with insurance companies present and with the plaintiff, representative by the plaintiff's attorney, and when you go to trial of that $32 million, if it keeps, and I don't think it's going to, the trial attorneys will get a minimum of half. Yeah, that's pretty serious stuff. All right, Doc, I appreciate the call. Thank you, Brad.

Thanks, Brad. Let me grab one more here. Hi, good morning. Hello? Good morning. It's deplorable Patrick with a related comment. Okay. For many years, I had a next-door neighbor named Harry, who was born a little premature.

They put him in a incubator and failed to monitor the oxygen level. The excessive oxygen burned his eyes. He was blind all his life. and so there's more responsibility than just how they are born. I don't remember any talk of any lawsuit. Was this connected to the Ashland Hospital, though? I didn't get the details on that. I probably should have asked.

But I'm just imagining, don't you, that these days they could have alarms, an alarm on an incubator that would, and it will sound alarm if there was anything wrong in there. Okay. All right. It could be. I appreciate the call there, Patrick. That's an excellent point that you're making in terms of the risk.

Yeah, but still birthing centers are a high risk. That's a high risk business, though, right? And the thing about it, though, is that we're actually in centering on birthing at ACH, I think it's missing the point because it was. brought out by Justin Public Radio. I think when you're looking at the fact that you're not going to be having inpatient, which was easy for all of us, rather than centering on birthing, I would think that people should center on exactly what's going on with the entire Sante. And Patrick, that's an excellent point, and you're right about technology, and you're right

about the studies as to how many are there abnormal bursts in terms of that versus those that are. We'll leave that to the malpractice insurers, which is part of the problem here. All right. Hey, Doc, I appreciate the call. We'll have you next week, as always, and be well, and thank you for the analysis this morning, okay? Hey, all the best, my friend. All right, thanks again. Dr. Dennis Powers, where Pass meets present, 853, and you're on KMED. Short and chilly days are an opportune time to work on the interior of your home.

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Yeah. Now, 541, by the way, to find out more, restrictions may apply, and internet service is provided by different people. I don't know which particular. Was that the dish internet? just kind of curious that you were talking about. You know, I kind of can't really say anything about that right now. That was one of the things I want I'm coming in to do. But I offer so many different options, you know. I offer Starlink, CenturyLink, I even offer T-Mobile. So it just depends on where you live and your situation.

And, you know, a lot of times people's bills go up after a year or so, and that's a good time to come in and talk to me to see what your options are. Yeah. And by the way, to talk with Cherise, it's pretty simple. You can call or text message. You can text message also a picture of your bill, and it's really easy. 541-680-5875. And if you're calling on a regular phone, you might have to put a one on it. 541-680-5875. And just to take a picture of your bill, sent it to you, and then you can go to work for them, right? It's that simple. And then a little bit about dish. If you don't have dish, or if you've had dish and you're with cable or something else, right now is the best, dish is at the lowest monthly bill I've ever seen. So right now it's free installation, free equipment, mentioned the Bill Meyer show and sign up by Christmas, and I'm going to throw an extra $100 visa card.

Okay. And then I'll help them cancel their old service. I'll help them return their equipment. And when you need help, you don't have to call another country. I'm right here. I'm local. You can come in the store anytime and come talk to me, and I'm here to take care of you. 541-680-5-875, and your store is where, Cherise?

1560 Biddle Road, Sweet Bee, Medford, Oregon, and I've been there for 16 years. Very good. NoWiresNow.com and become a client and many good things can happen. All right, Cherise? Thank you. Hang on, okay? Okay. I want to draw with you just a little bit here.

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